1
00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,520
Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

2
00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,400
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

3
00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,320
Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, It's the Drive on the Steelers

4
00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,439
Speaker 2: Audio Networks. Shouler, Matt Williamson, you know the drill two

5
00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,720
Speaker 2: hours with you here on this Wednesday, as we rock

6
00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,119
Speaker 2: and we roll and we get closer and closer to

7
00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,160
Speaker 2: the negotiation period free agency. A busy week next week,

8
00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,960
Speaker 2: but matts the busiest week. Yes, but as we kind

9
00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,960
Speaker 2: of have alluded to, I think you even said this

10
00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,559
Speaker 2: at the end of the show yesterday, there's still going

11
00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,760
Speaker 2: to be a lot happening this week. And we have

12
00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,200
Speaker 2: a little bit of a blockbuster trade that went down

13
00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,839
Speaker 2: in a blockbuster this afternoon in the National Football League.

14
00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,760
Speaker 2: Stop me if you've heard this before, but the La

15
00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,920
Speaker 2: Rams have traded their first round I shocker, right. None

16
00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,320
Speaker 2: of us could have seen that one coming. The La

17
00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,880
Speaker 2: Rams their second of their two first round picks. So

18
00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,000
Speaker 2: they have this one they earned, the one they earned

19
00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,880
Speaker 2: twenty ninth overall because they do have the Falcons thirteenth

20
00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,800
Speaker 2: overall pick. So the La Rams trade for the Kansas

21
00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,839
Speaker 2: City Chiefs cornerback Trent McDuffie and Kansas City receives first

22
00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,840
Speaker 2: round pick twenty ninth overall this year, fifth and sixth

23
00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,440
Speaker 2: this year, and then third rounder in twenty twenty seven

24
00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,279
Speaker 2: next year. So four picks in total. First rounder, third rounder,

25
00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,679
Speaker 2: fifth and sixth for Trent McDuffie.

26
00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,760
Speaker 3: Let's start the Rams. You mentioned very Rams like move

27
00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,319
Speaker 3: trading for Jalen Ramsey, Brandon Cooks. I mean, there's a

28
00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,480
Speaker 3: long list of going to get a veteran, even if

29
00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,600
Speaker 3: it costs you a first round pick. We're in it

30
00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,039
Speaker 3: to win it now. My first thought was, I think

31
00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,520
Speaker 3: that takes him out of the Ty Simpson situation, you know.

32
00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,520
Speaker 3: I think that that just says we're trying to win now,

33
00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,240
Speaker 3: We're not building for the future. I would think their

34
00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,840
Speaker 3: first pick is going to be a tackle or something

35
00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,440
Speaker 3: non quarterback, you know, some kind of win now type

36
00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,800
Speaker 3: of move, and I would imagine mcduffee they give up

37
00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,160
Speaker 3: a lot. I thought that was a nice haul for

38
00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,720
Speaker 3: the h It's a really good haul for the Chiefs.

39
00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,959
Speaker 3: I'll talk about them in a minute, but I think

40
00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,080
Speaker 3: it was definitely the rams biggest need, and mccorner was

41
00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,480
Speaker 3: the big the weakest area on the team. He's better

42
00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,120
Speaker 3: in the slot than outside, but he does both and

43
00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,800
Speaker 3: that's what they did Ramsey. I mean, I think it did.

44
00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,560
Speaker 3: The Rams are so smart. I think they're like the

45
00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,040
Speaker 3: smart Scena League and mcveigh's I think, the best coach

46
00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,560
Speaker 3: in the league. And I just think they realize that

47
00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,720
Speaker 3: these valuable slot corners are worth every penny, you know.

48
00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,720
Speaker 3: I mean, And that's actually what they did with Ramsey

49
00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,640
Speaker 3: before he went to the Dolphins. You know, they were

50
00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,240
Speaker 3: ahead of the game on that. But he's more than that.

51
00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,520
Speaker 3: He's also an outside guy, which they were very weak

52
00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,560
Speaker 3: at mid twenties. Now they're going to have to extend him,

53
00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,720
Speaker 3: which is an issue, and that's why he's not a

54
00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,840
Speaker 3: Chief because Chiefs.

55
00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:52,720
Speaker 2: They got some cap issues.

56
00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to go to the Bank of Mahomes

57
00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,040
Speaker 3: and make a move there. They just to get cap compliant.

58
00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,639
Speaker 3: And it's not to the agree of when they traded Tyreek,

59
00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,600
Speaker 3: but it's let's get a bunch of draft capital and

60
00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,800
Speaker 3: our quarterbacks still the same. We know we'll be in

61
00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,920
Speaker 3: this thing, but we need a little bit of a facelift,

62
00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,720
Speaker 3: a little bit of a little younger, a little cheaper.

63
00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,360
Speaker 3: Two first round picks for them as well as additional stuff.

64
00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,000
Speaker 3: They can move round the board if needed. Maybe they

65
00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,919
Speaker 3: jump up two spots and grab Love out of Notre

66
00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,240
Speaker 3: Dame in the first they use that third round pick, yes, stuff,

67
00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,480
Speaker 3: And the other thing about them, they have a great

68
00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,440
Speaker 3: history of just developing defensive backs, you know, so I

69
00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,280
Speaker 3: think they know their strengths that all right, we'll give

70
00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,720
Speaker 3: our coaching staff and Spags a second round corner or

71
00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,200
Speaker 3: maybe the twenty ninth pick or whatever. He'll develop them. Man,

72
00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,880
Speaker 3: we'll throw in a fourth round or in the mix,

73
00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,560
Speaker 3: and he'll develop them too, you know. So makes sense.

74
00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,880
Speaker 2: I think it makes sense for both of these teams.

75
00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,040
Speaker 2: It is funny because, as you mentioned, everyone kind of

76
00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,440
Speaker 2: knows that this is what the Rams. The Rams since

77
00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,200
Speaker 2: they took Jared Goff in twenty sixteen, have made. They've

78
00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,400
Speaker 2: used their first round pick once once it was Jared Verse.

79
00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,920
Speaker 2: They did pretty good on that one. But two years ago,

80
00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,680
Speaker 2: two years ago, yeah, twenty seventeen, traded their first round

81
00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,480
Speaker 2: pick to the Titans, twenty eighteen to the Patriots, nineteen

82
00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,320
Speaker 2: and nineteen to the Falcons, twenty and twenty one to

83
00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,120
Speaker 2: the Jags for the Jalen Ramsey trade twenty two and

84
00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,200
Speaker 2: twenty three to the Lions for the Golf and Stafford trade.

85
00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,280
Speaker 2: Twenty four they draft Jared Verse twenty five first round

86
00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,200
Speaker 2: pick to the Falcons twenty six first round pick to

87
00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,320
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Yeah, I mean it's unbelievable.

88
00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,840
Speaker 3: No, they're win now team. And I think I've mentioned this.

89
00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,240
Speaker 3: Even during that stretch they didn't have a first round

90
00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,520
Speaker 3: pick for what nine years in a row, they still

91
00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,920
Speaker 3: made more than seven picks almost every year. Like they

92
00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,240
Speaker 3: were really good with the comp game, and they averaged

93
00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,800
Speaker 3: I did a study on it. They averaged like somewhere

94
00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,200
Speaker 3: between nine and ten picks a year despite not having

95
00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:50,919
Speaker 3: number one.

96
00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,360
Speaker 2: And a lot of those years not having a second

97
00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,599
Speaker 2: round or either right.

98
00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,120
Speaker 3: Right, right, I mean a lot of those were big

99
00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,000
Speaker 3: time trades. And the end you still end up with

100
00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,560
Speaker 3: the Pukahs, and you know, they still hit on some dudes.

101
00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,039
Speaker 3: So they do things a little different, you know, but

102
00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:03,920
Speaker 3: it's working.

103
00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,920
Speaker 2: That they do. And so for both sides, I think

104
00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,600
Speaker 2: this makes sense. If you're Kansas City, you kind of

105
00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,160
Speaker 2: get a little bit cheaper and you trust your staff

106
00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,600
Speaker 2: to go out and develop another top corner that they've

107
00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,000
Speaker 2: done a few times here in recent history.

108
00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,920
Speaker 3: They have a lot of needs and they're just gonna

109
00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:18,600
Speaker 3: draft a lot of dues.

110
00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,520
Speaker 2: If you're the Rams, you still have your thirteenth pick.

111
00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,240
Speaker 2: You know, you still have a top fifteen pick in

112
00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,640
Speaker 2: the first round in this draft where you can get

113
00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,560
Speaker 2: somebody who can have an instant impact for you right

114
00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,760
Speaker 2: away this season. Yeah, it's a big one. I think

115
00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,360
Speaker 2: it makes a lot of sense for both teams. And

116
00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,040
Speaker 2: that kind of kicking off, I think what is going

117
00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,960
Speaker 2: to be the first of many moves here in the

118
00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:36,480
Speaker 2: next Uh.

119
00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're already ready seeing like cuts and not huge

120
00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,400
Speaker 3: names and things like that, and Dallas is restructure and

121
00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,640
Speaker 3: that that's where I can Lamb and those guys.

122
00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,200
Speaker 2: I think that was that's where I was going to

123
00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,520
Speaker 2: go next to Speaking of the bank of Mahomes, the

124
00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,599
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys went to the bank of a few different ones.

125
00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,520
Speaker 2: A few different players of theirs on big salaries. Dak Prescott,

126
00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver CD Lamb, and left guard tie Or Smith

127
00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,880
Speaker 2: have all been restructured. The Cowboys were nearly fifty five

128
00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,200
Speaker 2: million dollars over the cap before the moves, but the

129
00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,000
Speaker 2: were structuring of those three clears up around sixty six

130
00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,680
Speaker 2: million in cap space now.

131
00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,359
Speaker 3: It's also influences the Pickens franchise tag move too. It

132
00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,640
Speaker 3: makes sense guaranteed money. I mean, one of the things

133
00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,320
Speaker 3: people don't talk about with the franchise tag is I

134
00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,280
Speaker 3: assume same with fifty year option. Now I think about

135
00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,240
Speaker 3: it is you can't move that money around, you know,

136
00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,160
Speaker 3: whatever it is. If it's twenty million dollar tag, it's

137
00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,160
Speaker 3: twenty million dollar cap.

138
00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no kind of magic potion who gaysy things.

139
00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,480
Speaker 3: Shel tricks or right. Yes, now, you could extend Pickens

140
00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,159
Speaker 3: and move money around that way, but on the franchise tag,

141
00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,920
Speaker 3: he's getting that money and it's counting against the cap

142
00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:45,400
Speaker 3: that much.

143
00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,359
Speaker 2: You know, that's makes sense for Dallas, we know that

144
00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,640
Speaker 2: they are another one of those they're in win now mode.

145
00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:52,800
Speaker 3: I think I lost a.

146
00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,240
Speaker 2: Lot of those trades that they made in the course

147
00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,239
Speaker 2: of last season, like after the Parsons trade, after.

148
00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,919
Speaker 3: They Dell Parsons were for next.

149
00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,440
Speaker 2: Year, for twenty twenty six, clearly and this was probably

150
00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,640
Speaker 2: on the cards. Able to restructure those three of those

151
00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,280
Speaker 2: big contracts, get themselves under the cap, add in George Pickens,

152
00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,960
Speaker 2: maybe a little room to you know, make another move

153
00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:14,320
Speaker 2: or two.

154
00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,480
Speaker 3: I think they'd still be shopping for defense a little

155
00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,520
Speaker 3: bit and they do have two first round picks, but they.

156
00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,320
Speaker 2: Don't until day three, right, right, right, Yeah, so.

157
00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,880
Speaker 3: Kind of odd. Maybe they want to trade out of

158
00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,200
Speaker 3: round one and get more day two stuff. I don't know.

159
00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, but a lot of times, yeah, these are

160
00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,520
Speaker 2: these are precursor moves to something to something else. That's

161
00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,800
Speaker 2: that's going with it. And then Matt another name that

162
00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,200
Speaker 2: we had kind of talked about and speculated when we've

163
00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,840
Speaker 2: done some of these cut candidate conversations, will have another

164
00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,920
Speaker 2: one of those today and hour number two now that

165
00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,600
Speaker 2: the picture has become a little a little bit more clear,

166
00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,720
Speaker 2: but the Chargers releasing Makai Beckton, according to Jeremy Fowler,

167
00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,440
Speaker 2: will become official in the coming days in a move

168
00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,720
Speaker 2: that will save the Chargers nine point seven million dollars

169
00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,480
Speaker 2: against the camp.

170
00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,640
Speaker 3: And they don't need it. They got a ton of

171
00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,960
Speaker 3: space too, So it doesn't bode well for Beckton.

172
00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,240
Speaker 2: So he said, is it purely a money decision?

173
00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:06,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

174
00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,880
Speaker 2: If he's not healthy enough to command what we're paying them.

175
00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,320
Speaker 3: I assume it's a health thing.

176
00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,080
Speaker 2: But maybe we'll still try and bring him back on

177
00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:14,840
Speaker 2: a lower number.

178
00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, he just had a really interesting career.

179
00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,000
Speaker 3: Is this time right after his combine, the world was

180
00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,600
Speaker 3: a flutter about Mackay Beckton. I mean he was like

181
00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:30,080
Speaker 3: three sixty three seventy screaming down the track. I mean, like, whoa,

182
00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,720
Speaker 3: I have not seen people that big run that fast.

183
00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,720
Speaker 3: He may even broke five. Oh.

184
00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,480
Speaker 2: Him and Tristan Wurf's in that same class were just.

185
00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,880
Speaker 3: Freaks, freaks, like holy cat.

186
00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,520
Speaker 2: I think that was That might have been my first

187
00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,600
Speaker 2: com first or second combine with you were Dale. Actually

188
00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,000
Speaker 2: was that one where he's like, look at these tackle prospects.

189
00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and no one bad and I when the Jets

190
00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,959
Speaker 3: took him and he was okay but kind of underwhelming

191
00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,680
Speaker 3: a tackle. Injuries have always been a hindrance for him

192
00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,480
Speaker 3: every step of the way. Then he goes to the Eagles,

193
00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,880
Speaker 3: who they you know, the rate o line coach sat, yeah,

194
00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,360
Speaker 3: and got him pretty much on a bargain rate, moved

195
00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,880
Speaker 3: him full time to guard, and he was phenomenal for

196
00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,480
Speaker 3: the Eagles. Then he hits the open market and the

197
00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,360
Speaker 3: Chargers pay him well, you know, nine million a year

198
00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,320
Speaker 3: or whatever, and hasn't been healthy and really has only

199
00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,200
Speaker 3: been a high quality dude for the Eagles, you know,

200
00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,200
Speaker 3: guard only, I would think at this point too, but

201
00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,800
Speaker 3: he'll be a starter somewhere. Just how long he stay

202
00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,520
Speaker 3: on the field.

203
00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,880
Speaker 2: Would you have any interest in him in the Black

204
00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:29,760
Speaker 2: and Gold?

205
00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,440
Speaker 3: Not a nine million a year, No, maybe six five

206
00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,800
Speaker 3: something like that. Yeah, I mean there's still a lot

207
00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:39,400
Speaker 3: of ability there.

208
00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,080
Speaker 2: There's a ton of ability Thereah, but there's a lot

209
00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,599
Speaker 2: of injury, recent injury, and you know, kind of just

210
00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,559
Speaker 2: throughout the course of his even even when he was

211
00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,280
Speaker 2: at his best in Philadelphia and part of that Super

212
00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,120
Speaker 2: Bowl winning team, he was still in and out of

213
00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,520
Speaker 2: the lineup with Yeah, with some injury issues. So that's

214
00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,560
Speaker 2: my only thing. Like we've talked about this a little

215
00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,440
Speaker 2: bit with say Amalu. I think when you have such

216
00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,480
Speaker 2: a young offen of line coming together.

217
00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,960
Speaker 3: I like having the leader, big brother guy.

218
00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,559
Speaker 2: I like having the leader, big brother guy, but I

219
00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,760
Speaker 2: want that to be a guy who's practicing on Wednesdays

220
00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:08,439
Speaker 2: and Thursdays.

221
00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,800
Speaker 3: That's not always, that's not always.

222
00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,920
Speaker 2: That's the one part of me that's like, if you

223
00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,200
Speaker 2: move on from Siamalu and go in a different direction,

224
00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm fine with. Fine with is probably the best way

225
00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,520
Speaker 2: to put it. I obviously am not opining to let

226
00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,960
Speaker 2: him go because he gets veteran days off on Wednesdays

227
00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,880
Speaker 2: and things like that, but the.

228
00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,160
Speaker 3: Steel medical staff might be like, you should let him go.

229
00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:30,200
Speaker 3: Game him.

230
00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,600
Speaker 2: This Sunday was a task every single week, and I

231
00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,400
Speaker 2: just it's one thing I give Aaron Rodgers a ton

232
00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,520
Speaker 2: of credit for. The only practices that he missed were

233
00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,400
Speaker 2: the two Wednesdays that he was fresh off of that

234
00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,440
Speaker 2: wrist injury. And this is one of those I don't

235
00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,640
Speaker 2: think people realize how much it means. But for someone

236
00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,400
Speaker 2: like Kendrick Green or Mason Cole, you know, the two

237
00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,679
Speaker 2: guys who preceded Zach Frasier. Yeah, yeah, I'm not I'm

238
00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,960
Speaker 2: not knocking Ben Roethlisberger for this. He was at that

239
00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,600
Speaker 2: stage of his career and he had earned the right.

240
00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,840
Speaker 2: But we all know how Ben's practice schedules were. Oh sure,

241
00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,640
Speaker 2: full day, half day day off, full day, half day

242
00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,200
Speaker 2: day off, almost never practice, never practiced Wednesdays in season,

243
00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,760
Speaker 2: and things like training camp, full day, half day day off.

244
00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,080
Speaker 2: When you're a rookie center, when you're Mason Cole who

245
00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,199
Speaker 2: is trying to nail down center after you had played

246
00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,520
Speaker 2: mostly guard with the Vikings, I think you want your

247
00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,600
Speaker 2: quarterback there every single day in practice to be part

248
00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,280
Speaker 2: of that, to be working with again.

249
00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,079
Speaker 3: Young receivers or everybody. Yeah, everybody.

250
00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,760
Speaker 2: And again that's not a knock on Ben. Ben wasn't

251
00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,680
Speaker 2: doing that stuff when he was twenty eight years old,

252
00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,560
Speaker 2: you know that stage. It was that stage of his

253
00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,120
Speaker 2: career where he was at. But I would like to

254
00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,400
Speaker 2: as we always talk about building that nest, that particularly

255
00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,960
Speaker 2: starts with the offensive line. I want five guys who

256
00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,600
Speaker 2: can get as much work together as possible. The veterans

257
00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,040
Speaker 2: day rest stuff and the injury concerned stuff. I understand

258
00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,560
Speaker 2: that's part of the equation, but I want those.

259
00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,520
Speaker 3: Five big body guys. When you've got an ankle or

260
00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,840
Speaker 3: ane that's in your three thirty, it doesn't get better

261
00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,000
Speaker 3: as quick as the other you're kind of rough on

262
00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,760
Speaker 3: those the lower body extremity.

263
00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,640
Speaker 2: I just that's that's kind of a real thing for

264
00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,480
Speaker 2: me to keep an eye on. I think there has

265
00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,280
Speaker 2: to be a correlation between the step forward that we

266
00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,680
Speaker 2: saw the offensive line take this past year, still not perfect,

267
00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,000
Speaker 2: still not to finish product, but clearly a step forward,

268
00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,360
Speaker 2: and the fact that Aaron Rodgers was there with those

269
00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,520
Speaker 2: guys for ninety nine percent of those practices.

270
00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,640
Speaker 3: It has to be like, I want big effect.

271
00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,320
Speaker 2: I want all those guys getting as many reps together

272
00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,240
Speaker 2: as possible. That's just a that's just a I don't

273
00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,760
Speaker 2: even know concern, but that's a factor for me when

274
00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,959
Speaker 2: we talk about the future of the left side of

275
00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:32,680
Speaker 2: that offensive line.

276
00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,520
Speaker 3: And anyone will tell you a continuity on the old

277
00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,760
Speaker 3: line is as almost important as talent or scheme or

278
00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,760
Speaker 3: all those things. Just knowing one another. How many times

279
00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,800
Speaker 3: you know, would Wolf tell stories a touch I would

280
00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,560
Speaker 3: just kind of grunt at each other, and we know

281
00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,840
Speaker 3: it all the time out It's like the guys that

282
00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,920
Speaker 3: were on the Super seventies team be front of us.

283
00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,199
Speaker 3: I don't think they ever said words to each other.

284
00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,079
Speaker 3: They all just knew who to pick up and all

285
00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,200
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. Or the pouncy to castro lines

286
00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:03,880
Speaker 3: had remarkable consistency, uh continuity, durability. I mean they uncanny

287
00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,560
Speaker 3: and that goes a long way. Now. I'm not fighting you.

288
00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,199
Speaker 3: I think your point's a really strong one. But I

289
00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,040
Speaker 3: also and this would be applied to the Beckton question

290
00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,800
Speaker 3: or resigning Smalu or another player. I really really like

291
00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,480
Speaker 3: that's never healthy, is vera Tucker from the Jets. I mean, like,

292
00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,400
Speaker 3: you're gonna get him, someone's gonna get him in a

293
00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,960
Speaker 3: less than what his value is when he's on the field,

294
00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,480
Speaker 3: because he's never on the field. But because you have

295
00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:35,760
Speaker 3: Spencer Anderson, maybe I would durability might not be as

296
00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,280
Speaker 3: worrisome for me because I know he can at least

297
00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,880
Speaker 3: play my guy behind them.

298
00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,000
Speaker 2: Your break glass is better than that, It's better.

299
00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,040
Speaker 3: It's much better than that.

300
00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's a that's a that's a great

301
00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,240
Speaker 2: point too, And so that's all part of the conversation.

302
00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,160
Speaker 3: Of the lineup. But at least, like if I if

303
00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,720
Speaker 3: you told me I'm getting twelve games out of Vera Tucker, I'm.

304
00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,080
Speaker 2: Like, sign I might sign for that if the price

305
00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,360
Speaker 2: is right.

306
00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,520
Speaker 3: The price is right at the discount.

307
00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna Beckton for twelve or thirteen games, and the

308
00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:02,760
Speaker 2: price is right.

309
00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm getting them for one, No chance, right.

310
00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,079
Speaker 2: If I'm getting for three or four or five, I'll pass.

311
00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,599
Speaker 2: But yeah, obviously a lot to keep an eye on

312
00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,160
Speaker 2: and continue to discuss in that realm. So let's do that.

313
00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,280
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of the I mean there's some

314
00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,400
Speaker 2: other you know, the Giants release Bobby Okariki, Yeah, some

315
00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,560
Speaker 2: other kind of smaller movie.

316
00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,400
Speaker 3: And rumors and yes, yeah Eagles wanted a lot for

317
00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,280
Speaker 3: aj Brown and blah blah blah. I don't know how

318
00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:29,320
Speaker 3: true all that stuff is.

319
00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, But with that, let's take our first break

320
00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,800
Speaker 2: here today. We've gotten a lot of tweets, We've had

321
00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,920
Speaker 2: a lot of conversation. Let's kind of reset a free

322
00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,200
Speaker 2: agency primer where the Steelers are at with what we

323
00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,320
Speaker 2: know now. We've gathered more information, obviously in the last week,

324
00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,560
Speaker 2: so we have a better picture of what this twenty

325
00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,040
Speaker 2: twenty six draft class looks like. Let's get into imports

326
00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,280
Speaker 2: and exports for the Steelers who could be on the

327
00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,960
Speaker 2: way out, who you would try and keep when we

328
00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,640
Speaker 2: return here on the other side, little Steelers Free Agency

329
00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,560
Speaker 2: Primer two point zero. As we get closer and closer

330
00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,760
Speaker 2: to that free agency window opening. Just getting started today

331
00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,160
Speaker 2: was Shooler Matt Williamson. It is the Drive Steelers Nation

332
00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,200
Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

333
00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,960
Speaker 1: Your tune's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

334
00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,000
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

335
00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,760
Speaker 2: Rolling along here on the drive on this Wednesday, a

336
00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,600
Speaker 2: week from today, free agency will officially open five days

337
00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,400
Speaker 2: from today. That legal tampering period they now call it

338
00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:35,520
Speaker 2: the negotiating I.

339
00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,120
Speaker 3: Know you're not supposed to call it. They changed the name.

340
00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,920
Speaker 2: That kind of reminds me, though, of like a weird

341
00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,200
Speaker 2: day to Wegin with it was, Yeah, it's a little

342
00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:42,440
Speaker 2: it's a little.

343
00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,800
Speaker 3: Uh, legally tampered, legally tamper.

344
00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,880
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of an oxymoron though a little

345
00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,040
Speaker 2: bit certainly, But that kind of reminds me of one

346
00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,480
Speaker 2: of them when college football went from one A in

347
00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,280
Speaker 2: one double A to FBS and FCS. It's like everybody,

348
00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,160
Speaker 2: it took fifteen years before people started act saying FBS

349
00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,200
Speaker 2: at FCS. I think it's going to be.

350
00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,800
Speaker 3: Americans couldn't figure out the metric system they still call it.

351
00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,360
Speaker 3: Heinz Field, I mean, like the still that ever changes?

352
00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:16,160
Speaker 2: What is a matt with that? A little free agency conversation,

353
00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,680
Speaker 2: A lot of this we have been hashing out over

354
00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,960
Speaker 2: the last few weeks. Yeah, yeah, there's new information available.

355
00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,920
Speaker 2: We certainly know more about the draft class now than

356
00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,080
Speaker 2: we have at any point after after they're spending the

357
00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,280
Speaker 2: week in Indianapolis at the combine. So let's let's roll

358
00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,560
Speaker 2: through this let's talk about the Steelers free agents. Who

359
00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,760
Speaker 2: we want to keep, who we want to keep at

360
00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,640
Speaker 2: the right price, who we're fine with letting them walk.

361
00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,760
Speaker 2: Do we even need to have the Aaron Rodgers con

362
00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,280
Speaker 2: I think we've talked because we've talked it to death

363
00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,080
Speaker 2: and nothing has changed in that regard, and we all

364
00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,320
Speaker 2: kind of think it's a foregone conclusion. And until there's

365
00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,120
Speaker 2: new news.

366
00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,320
Speaker 3: I mean, they've even addressed it. We've talked to Aaron.

367
00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,920
Speaker 3: He knows all he feels about it. Is they've talked

368
00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,480
Speaker 3: to us. I mean, I don't think that's worth bringing up.

369
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,480
Speaker 2: I I agree. So let's go right back to the

370
00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:07,160
Speaker 2: well of where we just were. Isaac Sayamalu. Yeah, last

371
00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,080
Speaker 2: year was let's see, making about eight million dollars a year.

372
00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,399
Speaker 2: It looks like played almost seventy five percent of the

373
00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,440
Speaker 2: snaps for the Steelers. Seventy four point six percent of

374
00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,160
Speaker 2: the snaps.

375
00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,400
Speaker 3: It's not like he's in and out of games when

376
00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:20,919
Speaker 3: he plays.

377
00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,359
Speaker 2: He plays, Yeah right, yeah, yes, at eight million dollars,

378
00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,720
Speaker 2: thirty three years old, is it keep him? Is it

379
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,119
Speaker 2: keep him at the right price? Is it take a

380
00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,480
Speaker 2: look at your options?

381
00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,240
Speaker 3: I we did talk about it a lot. I do

382
00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,520
Speaker 3: think having a big brother veteran in the room, and

383
00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,240
Speaker 3: I would like to draft two offensive linemen of some

384
00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,440
Speaker 3: sort as well, so you're only going to get younger.

385
00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,840
Speaker 3: And they're definitely draft at least one, whether they agree

386
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,439
Speaker 3: with me or not. On two, I'm sure they're going

387
00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,159
Speaker 3: to draft an offensive lineman. I do think that a

388
00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,840
Speaker 3: veteran is very useful. And I don't know these dudes personally,

389
00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,560
Speaker 3: but by all account he seems like a smart, you know, trustworthy,

390
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,000
Speaker 3: upstanding leader type guy, and you saw how they all

391
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,920
Speaker 3: flock to him. I still think he's playing pretty well.

392
00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,719
Speaker 3: Whenever I bring up that they should resign Samalu, I

393
00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,560
Speaker 3: get so many responses that ranking threw him around. I'm like, yeah,

394
00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,760
Speaker 3: they the Texans kind of do that to everybody. And hey,

395
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,040
Speaker 3: is not his best.

396
00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,560
Speaker 2: Play heyd turned inside and out of yeah right.

397
00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't mean he's not a starting left guard.

398
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,960
Speaker 3: Bad games, yeah yeah, And it was a bad game

399
00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 3: by more than just him too. Is some of those

400
00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,840
Speaker 3: plays concerning. Yeah, But I still think he's quite good.

401
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,280
Speaker 3: I just wonder, because there's such an O line shortage,

402
00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,560
Speaker 3: are there four or five teams that have so much

403
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,439
Speaker 3: money they're like, we'll give you thirteen. You know, like

404
00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,680
Speaker 3: you're worth eight or nine.

405
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 2: You play seventy five percent of the snaps for us. Great, Yeah,

406
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:56,680
Speaker 2: just to have you in that.

407
00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,200
Speaker 3: Room, because you're good when you're out there. I would

408
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,240
Speaker 3: be actively trying to pursue it, though at a similar

409
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,919
Speaker 3: one year tenant most type of situation, I have a

410
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 3: hard time probably going two years considering his injury history. Agree,

411
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 3: but somebody might, you know. I mean, if I'm him,

412
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna say I'll let you know two days

413
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,920
Speaker 3: into free agency. You know, I don't think I'm signing

414
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 3: that now.

415
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,440
Speaker 2: If I'm him, and make no mistake about it, despite

416
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,120
Speaker 2: some of the injury concerns in the age, he will

417
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:23,880
Speaker 2: have some offers.

418
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're like the Raiders, I got

419
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,919
Speaker 3: a first overall, dude, I'm putting in here and I

420
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,919
Speaker 3: need leadership on my line, and I'm gonna have more

421
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 3: money than I could spend.

422
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 2: To pay for Linderbaum and say them all over, even

423
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 2: if they're slightly overpaid, we're still gonna have plenty of

424
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 2: line then, you know, right by the time their contracts

425
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 2: will be off the books, by the time we have

426
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,679
Speaker 2: to pay Mendoza.

427
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, yeah, I gotta spend it somewhere. Kyle Duggar,

428
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,679
Speaker 3: I would lump all those safeties I.

429
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 2: S would you include kill a brew with all of

430
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 2: them or no separate because of the special teams factor.

431
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 2: Let's say Dugger. Let's say Clark and Peppers.

432
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 3: Because I think they're all more strong than Freeze agreed.

433
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 3: Dougger is my favorite of the group. Peppers is two,

434
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 3: but they never agreed with me, so I don't know

435
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 3: what I'm missing on Peppers. They like Clark more than Peppers.

436
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 3: They like Clark more than I like Clark.

437
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 2: He played just Jabrill. Peppers played just eight point six

438
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 2: percent of the snaps for the Stack.

439
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that adds up. And maybe he's shot

440
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 3: and I just don't know it, and I'm going off

441
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 3: what he used to be. None of them would be priorities.

442
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 3: One of them I'd like to bring back as Elliott's

443
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 3: pure backup.

444
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: And that's it, you know, That's that's my ideal situation

445
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 2: for Dougger.

446
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, and Douger would be my favorite of

447
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 3: the group. Maybe he's a little pricier than the Rothers.

448
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 3: Clark's gotta be the oldest.

449
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 2: Clark and Peppers are both thirty one. Dougger is thirty,

450
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 2: so they're not terribly.

451
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 3: Closer together than I thought.

452
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, that's that's the safety's in the in the

453
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 2: conversation there.

454
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 3: Because just in the safety world, I want to sign

455
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 3: a starting and I don't know how strong they're gonna

456
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: be on free verse strong. I mean, that's but I

457
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 3: want to start. I want to sign a starter, and

458
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 3: I definitely want to draft one in a deeper safety class.

459
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 3: So this, dude, whoever of those three you pick, or

460
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 3: someone else that you know, kind of a cheap veteran

461
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 3: minimum type deal, it's probably your fourth bet, fourth most

462
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 3: valuable safety. So what's that really worth? Yeah, he better

463
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 3: be great on teams, which I don't know if any

464
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 3: of those guys are great on teams.

465
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 2: It's a fair, fair fair point there, especially with considering

466
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 2: Miles Killerbrew. He's thirty three years old. He was such

467
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: a huge part we all know of the special team's

468
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: equation in Pittsburgh. But it's a new coaching staff. Danny

469
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: Smith is no longer here. Does the new staff still

470
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 2: value him in that way? He is thirty three, so

471
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 2: he's getting a little bit longer in the tooth.

472
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 3: Thirty three coming off a big injury makes me say

473
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 3: league minimum or bus type thing.

474
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

475
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: As good as he was on it's goronics. Great, you'll

476
00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: find others.

477
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: Well, So then let's kind of stay there. Then how

478
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 2: does Connor Heyward factor in this equation for you? Twenty

479
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 2: seven years old, played a little under nine at eight

480
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: point seven percent of the snaps for the Steelers last year,

481
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 2: but he's we know the tight end value has now

482
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 2: shrunk with Mike McCarthy and exiting Arthur Smith, but he

483
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: still presents special teams value and everything if they want

484
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: to continue to do push push type stuff that he

485
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: could offer in that realm too.

486
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure you can find somebody else. I mean,

487
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: if he left and got a decent offer you could draft.

488
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 3: I bet you draft somebody that can do that. But

489
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: it's not nothing. I also think it's valuable that he's

490
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 3: always active on game day because of special team stuff.

491
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 3: That if two running backs get hurt, he can get

492
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: you out of the game or you know, I think

493
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 3: you'll only keep three tight ends. That's the usual. Steelers

494
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: keeping fours unusual because they use so many and two

495
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 3: of those spots are taken. It is a good tight

496
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 3: end draft. But I don't feel the need to have

497
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 3: to go in that well. I think I would be

498
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 3: pretty strong to bring him back again. I mean, he's

499
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 3: gonna make a lot of money.

500
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 2: He's a price, is right guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

501
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: think the price will be right. I would think he

502
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 2: probably wants to stay here and play with his brother and.

503
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 3: Visions. But it's good for goodwill too, you know, like

504
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: Cam Hayward carry some weight in that room, just a

505
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 3: little bit.

506
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally and figurative.

507
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: Right right, If it can make everyone a little happier, cool,

508
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 3: that's better than signing some tight end we've never heard

509
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: of it, you know. Yeah.

510
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: And I know it's a brand new regime, brand new staff,

511
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: brand new special teams coordinator, But I think you still

512
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: want some guys that speak the language agreed of, like

513
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: we've talked about with keeping a couple of those coaches

514
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: on staff. Just yeah, when you did this in the past,

515
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 2: what was the rationale behind it? What was the logic?

516
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: Why did you think this would work? Why did this work?

517
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: Why didn't this work? And he's only twenty seven years old,

518
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: he's kind of right in the middle of that and

519
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: maybe even about to hit his absolute prime as an

520
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 2: athlete and a football player. If the price is right,

521
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: I would definitely have.

522
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: And the typical game day he does stuff. And if

523
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: it's only five snaps on, if.

524
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: He's your break glass in case of emergency tight end,

525
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: I think you can do much worse, worse than that

526
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: that that department.

527
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: I agree.

528
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of these wide receivers here, Matt

529
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: Adam Feeling, Scotty Miller, Mark haz Valdez, Scantling.

530
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 3: Retire or is there Actually that's actually a good fun

531
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: he did.

532
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: You're right, so take him out of the equation. You're right.

533
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: He did that actually just a few days after the

534
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: season ended. So Feeling is out of the equation. So

535
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: Scotty Miller m vs. Calvin Austin the third and those

536
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: are those are the three yes. Without without Adam Feeling.

537
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: Austin will get a legit contract from somebody.

538
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: Did you see his news today?

539
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: No?

540
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: He uh. He is now part of the Drew Rosenhouse agency.

541
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: So he switched switched to Big Drew right before free agency.

542
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: That makes me think that there's some must be interesting.

543
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some irons in the fire there.

544
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: There there will be because the free agent crop isn't great.

545
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: I'm telling all those guys though, to go fish basically,

546
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 3: you know, like we got bigger if you're still around

547
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 3: in a month or two, especially like a Miller. Like

548
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: Miller has some of those like Hayward qualities, like if

549
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 3: your holder gets hurt, he comes in, if you know,

550
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: like he does a lot of little things that people

551
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 3: don't think about on minimal, smaller roster than you think

552
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 3: on game day. But like I'm calling him like after

553
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: the draft, you know, and I know Rogers likes Valdez Scantling,

554
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: but I've seen enough of that that every stop he's

555
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: been not interested. Austin I would be a fallback plan.

556
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: I would look like, sign somebody better, draft somebody better.

557
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: If I can't, then you're still out there. Great, But

558
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 3: I bet you won't still be out there. You know,

559
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: somebody will sign you to be their third.

560
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna say he'd be one of those guys

561
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: that if it's like the third wave of free agency

562
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: and the price is right, yeah, bring them back. Absolutely

563
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 2: you can. If he's your if he's your bad, yeah,

564
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: if he's your fourth or or fifth. He's probably one

565
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: of the better fourth or fifths in the in the NFL.

566
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: And we know McCarthy's kept seven or eight on the

567
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: roster at times at times in the past and the

568
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: in the special teams element. But yeah, I think someone's

569
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: gonna give him some coin because he could fit. He

570
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: could be a right piece of the puzzle if you

571
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: have the other body types in your wide receiver room.

572
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: Like this sounds weird, but like if you know, if

573
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: you're the Bengals, I was.

574
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: Just going to say, Cincinnati.

575
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 3: Man, one of these teams have a good pairing and

576
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 3: I need you just to run fast and exploit single

577
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: coverage and all right, you know Cowboys.

578
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think I don't know if they're

579
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: going to be the team that has the money to

580
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: do it.

581
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: But but just in terms of how you would you know.

582
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: If you're bringing him in his earlier number three, Yeah,

583
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: I think he'll be fine.

584
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to count on him to the

585
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: point the Steelers did.

586
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. Let's go to interior defensive

587
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: lineman here Matt three to discuss Daniel Aqualley, Dean Lowry,

588
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: and Jacob Slade. I don't think Jacob. I don't think

589
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: Jacob Slade is going to be back in the equation.

590
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 3: No, I don't even know anything about him.

591
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: The quality and Dean Lowry.

592
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 3: What kind of trouble did a quality get in because

593
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: he got injured and then he got suspended on top

594
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 3: of that. I think for ped.

595
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: I was going to say, I think it was something

596
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: substance wise.

597
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was not that that's great, but

598
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: it wasn't, yeah, something terrible. I'm like, yeah, Like, I

599
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 3: don't know that he's a bad guy, you know, necessarily,

600
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: I mean what you do. But I thought he played

601
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: pretty well and I definitely want those ish guys, and

602
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: I think he's definitely that about that a lot. I

603
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: would probably offer him a deal where he's not even

604
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 3: guaranteed to make the team, which is probably the type

605
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: of deal he was on before. And now he's a

606
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 3: little less valuable coming off of suspension too. I mean,

607
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: his stock didn't go up even if his tape was decent.

608
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: I'd love to take him to camp with like seven

609
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 3: or eight other d linemen all fighting for seven spots,

610
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: you know, and have one extra type of situation because

611
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 3: the other thing that works in his favor, at least

612
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: in this equation for me, is there aren't many or

613
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 3: any veteran D lineman I want to add, and they're

614
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: gonna be overpriced, and the draft looks okay but not great.

615
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: I just don't know where the D linemen are gonna

616
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: come from.

617
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: That's where when you start to piece the puzzle together,

618
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: and here's what we want to commit and what we

619
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: need from free agency, and here's what we can wait

620
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: till the end of April, and you know, kind of

621
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: play our hand in the draft. Defensive line feels like

622
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: there's not a pretty quel. There's not an easy answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

623
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: like you and I have done a little bit of

624
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: this and we'll continue to do this. If you look

625
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: at the corners and the safeties available upcoming here in

626
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: free agency, there's a lot to like. Yeah yeah, there's

627
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: a lot of guys twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight

628
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: years old, second contract, not going to break the bank,

629
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: but quality NFL starters with experience.

630
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: You'll probably pay them ten percent more than they're worth.

631
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: But that's free agency.

632
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 2: There are a few corners and a few safeties, a

633
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: handful of secondary guys that fit that description, so you

634
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: might be more willing to we're gonna go We're gonna

635
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: go there and knock some of that out in free agency.

636
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: But if it doesn't work out, we still really like

637
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: the crop in the draft. It might be the opposite

638
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: for defensive line. I might be like, we're gonna have

639
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: to really work to identify the right piece or two

640
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: to add here because there's not a ton of options.

641
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't if any of them are difference

642
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: making options. You know, Lowery has value to me. They've

643
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: always had that, dude. It was like wormly It's just

644
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: like an inning eater, you know. That's been around the

645
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: league for a little bit. Now. I don't know the

646
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: extent of his injuries. He can't be young. Is he

647
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: thirty two?

648
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: Something like that is thirty two?

649
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: Okay, total guess coming off an injury, he'd cost nothing.

650
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: Maybe it'd be the same contract you offered him.

651
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: But he made two point five last year.

652
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: Okay. I would mind having him at camp and with

653
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: very little guaranteed money. And if he makes team eight,

654
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: I think you would have made the team. And I've

655
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: been active on game day ahead of like if he

656
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: was healthy, if you'd have made it. Yeah, ahead of

657
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: like Lee or louder Milk. You know, so there's not

658
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: ending eaters on the D line is not a terrible thing, No,

659
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: it's not. I mean, that's your fifth guy. I mean

660
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: I don't want him starting.

661
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: Ever, but you need some people to eat some innings.

662
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: It's great that Cam Hayward was an All Pro and

663
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: played the most snaps of any true defensive lineman in

664
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: the NFL last.

665
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: Year, but I hope that's not the plan. Again.

666
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: I hope that's not the plan again. Yeah, it's like

667
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: we say, it looks like we would say with Boswell

668
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: all the time. It's great that he's Team MVP, but

669
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: I hope that that's not going to continue. I don't

670
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: want my kicker, and it's a testament to him, but

671
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: I don't want my kicker to be that guy. I

672
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: don't want a thirty eight year old to be the

673
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 2: one who's leading the league in snaps, unless maybe it's

674
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: a thirty eight year old quarterback at his position. Matt

675
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: a few more here, we'll break this up. We'll have

676
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: to do some of this.

677
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, the game Boell conversation is gonna be a long.

678
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: That's why I was gonna say, so, let's have let's

679
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: have two more here before we go to break. Calvin

680
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: Anderson thirty years old.

681
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: They just released him, right or they said they were

682
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: a bow to.

683
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna die me that too,

684
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: because I don't think he's a restricted free agent, but

685
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: there's something with his.

686
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: So he signed a two year deal.

687
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: Is it like one of those void year type things.

688
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: So he would he would have been back under contract,

689
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: and I think just this past week they said they're

690
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: cutting it.

691
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: So they did you right, terminated? Yeah, yeah, okay, so.

692
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 3: He casually they saved two million on him, not that

693
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: he was a huge contract, but they'ven't done that with

694
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: John EU or Harrison. But it's the same thing. So

695
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: they signed him to a two year deal, which I

696
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: thought was odd at the time, but like I guess

697
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: they like him better than I do. And tackles don't

698
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: grow on trees.

699
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: If it doesn't doesn't kill you, Yeah.

700
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and didn't work out.

701
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: So no, finally here before we take a break. Cole

702
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: Holcom thirty years old. Yeah, played seventeen percent of the

703
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: snaps last year.

704
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's going to pursue him as a starter.

705
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: So I don't think in two weeks will still be

706
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: a free agent. Okay, so maybe I'm just let's talk

707
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: about it in two weeks. Yeah, I don't think you're

708
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: looking to add or a linebacker and free agency. No,

709
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 3: you wouldn't mind drafting one.

710
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: You wouldn't mind drafting one on Day three, maybe in

711
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: the fourth round or something, because it does feel like

712
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: a deep group. That's what all the draft knicks pretty consensus,

713
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: deep off ball line, a lot of speed. Wouldn't hate

714
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: adding one of those guys. But I also if Cole

715
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: Holcome's back, wouldn't be against that either. I think when

716
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: he's been healthy and available, he's been a he's been

717
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: an adder to that to that room. Not a second star,

718
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: but he's been a plus player.

719
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd have no problem with Wilson, Queen, Holcombe,

720
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: Bruner and a third round pick being my final five

721
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: guys at that position.

722
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: I think that'd be a good blend.

723
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: It's fine.

724
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: Runer's your special team ace.

725
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you're count that rookie to be a backup immediately,

726
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: and we'll see, you know, let's.

727
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: Take a break here, we'll close. This will continue this

728
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: kind of free agency imports X.

729
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: I don't think Harrison will be back, so you're going

730
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: to detract from you're taking away from that room, so

731
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: I think you don't want to take too much away

732
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: from that room.

733
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: A few more names to discuss here as we continue

734
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: to kind of set the stage for Steelers free agency.

735
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: We'll put a bow on this conversation to close down

736
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: the first hour. Wash Youler, Matt Williamson, it is a

737
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

738
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: Your tuns about drive on your twenty four to seven

739
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

740
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: Free Agency. The topic djure across the NFL, certainly here

741
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio, as we're getting closer and closer

742
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: in the next week and kind of setting the stage

743
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: ahead of time here, Matt, you mentioned it. I think

744
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers obviously is the biggest domino here, probably followed

745
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: pretty closely by Isaac Saamalu, but also at the forefront

746
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: of this conversation.

747
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: I think Pierre is important too, just because he's a

748
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: starting corner.

749
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna get to him here too. But

750
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: team MVP Kenneth Gainwell.

751
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm torn. So if you think Rogers is going to

752
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: be the quarterback. And I don't say this because just

753
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: give Aaron everybody once and he should be part of

754
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: you know, partial GM for you. But obviously he has

755
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: an affinity for Gainwell, which which I understand, and he

756
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: pumped him up. And but if Rogers is going to

757
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: be your quarterback, he's gonna throw the backs in the

758
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: flat a lot. So I need any capable receivers. I

759
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: need another one in addition to Warren, because that's not

760
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: going away. If Rogers is your quarterback. I mean it's

761
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: gonna the balls will come out off into running backs

762
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: and game Well's really good at that and Gainwell was

763
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: better at everything that I expected him to be. But

764
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: he's not gonna be cheap cheap. I mean, he's not

765
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: gonna be as cheap as he was this past year,

766
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 3: not even close. And I would love so. First off,

767
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: I think they have to sign a veteran running back

768
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 3: more than we've talked about. Yeah, and I didn't originally,

769
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 3: but I can't go into the season with Warren Caleb

770
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: in a fourth round pick.

771
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: Agreed with you on that.

772
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: It's just if Warren gets heart all of a sudden,

773
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: you might have nothing. Yes, you know I can't have nothing,

774
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: So I mean I could go in with James Connor

775
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 3: or you know, I mean it doesn't have to be sure.

776
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: I'm not asking for Kenneth Locker, right right, right, but

777
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: I mean somebody that's been around the block, that knows

778
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: how to pass block.

779
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 2: And you're going to give you some of the names

780
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: that would be available.

781
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: There's a handful, you know, like Tyler Algier is going

782
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: to make too much money.

783
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: Travis ey t Im gonna make too much money.

784
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, another thing is too before you bring up names.

785
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: One thing I want to mention is it's not a

786
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: deal breaker, but I like the Warren backfield alignment better

787
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: if he's not the biggest guy. Yes, you know what

788
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 3: I mean.

789
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: And because I want a hammer, Yeah, I want some

790
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: thunder for that like that.

791
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: I kind of like the Nausey Mold. Not a big

792
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: nausey believer, but nause Warren Mold more than the Warren

793
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: Gainwell Mold. You know what I mean. You're kind of

794
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: a small backfield, then great, They've never a small backfield

795
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: my whole life. Yes, And I think there's something to that.

796
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: And we've had that conversation a few times. Yeah, and

797
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: you were hoping that Caleb Johnson was going to be

798
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: that guy, but that did not end up happening.

799
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: I think him and rem and Wilson are as the

800
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: guys that you just can't count on for anything. You know.

801
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: It's almost like a bonus if you get him, great, yeah.

802
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: Right, and you might be good okay, But I can't

803
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 3: count on him to be even my definitely a quality three,

804
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: like an active on game day guy, because he also

805
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: is not a special teamer.

806
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. I actually did a segment this

807
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: morning with our friends Tom Offerman and Chris Adanmsky on

808
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: these Steelers' Blitz and they asked me about gain Well

809
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: and I was like, guys, I don't think there's a

810
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: right or a wrong answer. I know it's a tough

811
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 2: one because if he's back, I don't hate it he was,

812
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: they would use them, and they would use a Rogers

813
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: clearly have chemistry. If Jalen Warren were to go down

814
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks, you trust in him. But

815
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: if he walks and then you go out and you

816
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: kind of find that piece that is more complimentary to

817
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: Jalen Warren, you have a more kind of prototypical running

818
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: back room.

819
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: Maybe it is an Augie or somebody like that.

820
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's I don't think there's a

821
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: wrong answer here.

822
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: Ye.

823
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as you as long as it's Kenny

824
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: g or an adequate replacement, I don't think there's a

825
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: wrong answer because.

826
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: If you I think, if you signed Gainwell today, then

827
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 3: you're done the free agency. I assume at running back,

828
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: but I'm still probably drafting somebody bigger than Warren in

829
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: the fifth round. Yes, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean

830
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: somebody that's got some girth to you know.

831
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: Let me just give you some of these names and

832
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: you can tell me yay or nay, and if you

833
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: want to explain yourself, go for it. If not, we'll

834
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: just roll along. Naji Harris is a free agent. No,

835
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: let's see Austin Eckler.

836
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: I don't even know if he'll play.

837
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: Antonio Gibson, No traves etn too expensive.

838
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be not what you're looking

839
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 3: for price wise.

840
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: Rico Daddle not the type, not the right body type.

841
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: But he did play with McCarthy and Dallas and had

842
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: his an overlap there. Don't just brush him away because

843
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: it is true, and I never thought of that until

844
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: now a couple hours ago because I did a locked

845
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: on Dynasty show and we were just talking about Rock

846
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: running back. We were having this conversation JK. Dobbins, how

847
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: year that's why the guys say JK.

848
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: Dobbins was I was going to bring him.

849
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: Up next, and the co host is like, don't forget that.

850
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: You know Rico played with and they did some good things.

851
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: They'd be dirt cheap. I mean, it wouldn't be the

852
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: worst guy, haven't out there. I love JK. Dobbins, but

853
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: it's the Beckton conversation. It's not you know, if he

854
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: gets hurt, it's when when he gets hurt. But when

855
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 3: he's out there, he's a top twenty back.

856
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: He'd be exactly what you were looking for. If he

857
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: was the picture of health. Yeah, he's twenty seven years old,

858
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: he's got the right body type, but.

859
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: He's also cheapest can be. And if he lasts till

860
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: Halloween and then he goes out for the year, you

861
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: probably got the contract out of him, especially if.

862
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: Kleb, especially if Kate running back to figure it out right?

863
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: Uh aj Dillon, I think he shot Brian Robinson a little.

864
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: Too monotone, But I mean you can can one or

865
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: two of those names. I would consider, like late after

866
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: the draft, you know, two weeks before camp opens, he's

867
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: still still there. Yeah, that that type of contract.

868
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: Michael Carter. Yeah, yeah, it's I mean Algier. That's that's

869
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: really about it.

870
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: This is sort of like the de tackle conversation because

871
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: it's never this conversation for running backs. But it's not

872
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: a very wealthy group, including draft. You're not gonna get loved.

873
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: You're not gonna get loved.

874
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: It's kind of like similar to the Mendoza and quarterback conversation.

875
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

876
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 2: Right, unless you're getting that one guy in the draft.

877
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: It's not a great offseason.

878
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: Yea. Like last year you could be like, well, I'll

879
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: just dip my toe in the in the draft water

880
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 3: or whatever, and I'd probably get tooting in the fourth

881
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: round or whatever.

882
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: You know, right, Harvey, you're one of those guys, you know, Yeah,

883
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: Matt Finally cornerbacks and it's a two man conversation. Yeah,

884
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: thirty year old James Pierre twenty seven year old is

885
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: Sante Samuel Junior.

886
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: So I think there's a couple negatives with both. Not

887
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: to start, you know last half empty, Samuel's durability slash

888
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: injury history, and Samuel's size slash not unwillingness. But he's

889
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: not much of a run defender, and I think some

890
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: of that was because he was playing injured and stuff

891
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 3: with the Chargers. Like, I don't think he's unwilling, He's

892
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: just not a big body to get Derrick Henry on

893
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: the ground coming off the edge, or you know, the

894
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: Bills that ran off tackle a thousand times would probably

895
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 3: run at him over and over and over. Pierre's problem

896
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: are age. He just hit thirty or is about hit thirty,

897
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 3: which is kind of a magic number for corners, and

898
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: one year wonders at corner are often one year wonders,

899
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It took him that long

900
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: to figure it out, but he was really good. So

901
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 3: I think I would be talking to Pierre right now

902
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: because I want to have a starting corner definitely before

903
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: the draft. I think you have to agreed, and I

904
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: don't know that Samuel i'd say is a starting corner.

905
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: Pierre I'm gonna say is a starting corner, and then

906
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: maybe a third round peck of corn. But I also

907
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: don't think bringing both back is horrific. I kind of

908
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: thought that at the beginning. I'm like bringing both back

909
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: and two dogs one bone, whatever that is, and you

910
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: know fall back.

911
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: Would you rather do that than go shopping in free

912
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: agency for some of these twenty seven to twenty eight

913
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: year olds that we've talked about.

914
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: Some of them are appealing. Some of them are very

915
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: appealing to want they Taylor, Yep, Guys like that that

916
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: aren't super crazy expensive. I guess. I mean I would

917
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 3: definitely be having conversations with Pierre now. Yeah, you know,

918
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: like I don't what do you want?

919
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: How many years? What's the money? When your guarantee closed?

920
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: I might be like, I'll settle for that and then

921
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: draft one. Keep the bird in the hand, yeah, because

922
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: Eccles could also play outside and you don't want to

923
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: do that. Ramsey could also play outside. You don't want

924
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: to do that. So your corner room would be like

925
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: Pierre Eckles, Ramsey Porter, mid round pick, mid round pick.

926
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: It's good, but there's room for error there there is.

927
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean, what if Pierre looks like a bad signing

928
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: and Ramsey's step slow, and all of a sudden, you're

929
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: like that third rounder is not ready, you know, like

930
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: it's it's not a you're not out of the woods.

931
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: No you're not. And that's one of those position groups

932
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: that you don't want to hurt. I always thinking that

933
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: you said it. He did miss what three games last

934
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: two or three? Guys. Yeah, it's the National Football League.

935
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: Guys get hurt. That to me is one of the

936
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: biggest things to keep an eye on at the start

937
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: of free agency. What they do with running back, what

938
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: they do with cornerback. I think are really going to

939
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: kind of tip hands to what the plans are in

940
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: the draft.

941
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: And they might be early decisions. Absolutely, they might be

942
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: first week's, first couple of days.

943
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: We could go on air Monday at four o'clock and

944
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: it Adam Schefter across the timeline, James Pierre and the

945
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: Steelers have agreed to a two year, you know, twelve

946
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: million dollars whatever type contract. That wouldn't surprise me.

947
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: Of all their UFAs to be, I thought he was

948
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 3: the one that was most likely to get signed before

949
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: free agency even opened. He's also one of those guys

950
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 3: that hasn't made much money. I mean, he's thirty years old,

951
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: but by NFL standards, six.

952
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: Years he's made about six million in the league. Yeah,

953
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: by NFL standards that.

954
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: He's made nothing right, just pretty missus, Pierre or whoever

955
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: is significant other is you're probably like, I'll take this

956
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: six million dollar siding bonus right now, right.

957
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: Right, or whatever it is, right now tomorrow. When can

958
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: the direct deposit it? Right? Matt, I did want to

959
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: make sure, speaking of to kind of wrap up this conversation.

960
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers was on the Pat McAfee show today and

961
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: a lot of oh my goodness, could this be it,

962
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: because we couldn't be getting an announcement. Aaron Rodgers said,

963
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: anyone on here expecting me to make some big decision,

964
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: just turn it off right now. End quote.

965
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: I'll buy for a visit with his buddy.

966
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: He praised Mike McCarthy, but he said there's no debt.

967
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 2: He said, I've talked to Mike, I've talked to Omar.

968
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: There's no deadline, there's no contract offer, nothing that I

969
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: have to debate between. I'm a free agent. End quote.

970
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: So no news is good news. I guess.

971
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess now. But I just have a

972
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: feeling I've seen this fish before. Yes, I have a

973
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: feeling Aaron Rodgers is going to be in September when

974
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 2: the Steelers open the season QB one under center.

975
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: I'm kind of operating under that assumption.

976
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: I am too, but man, I hope it doesn't take

977
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: till May or June like it did last year.

978
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: That could complicate things. I think you need to have

979
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: that answer before that.

980
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 2: You certainly do YEA for free agency purposes and planning purposes,

981
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: and then I think just for everybody's sanity too. There's

982
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: always the human outlet, you know. I like reruns Matt

983
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 2: when it's a long ways out, like seven years after

984
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: it came out. I rewatched Game of Thrones.

985
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: It's awesome. No, yeah, okay, I've.

986
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: Rewatched Breaking Bad before.

987
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: It's awesome.

988
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: I need to rewatch the Sopranos in the World and

989
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: things like that. Years down the line. I don't, you know,

990
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: finish Game of Thrones and then a few months later go,

991
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: I want to.

992
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 3: Do this again.

993
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: Let's do this again. I don't. I don't want this

994
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: rerun all over once again.

995
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: No, I've been down that road.

996
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: I I am optimistic that at some point in March

997
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna get an answer, because I don't think anybody

998
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: wants to go down that road. But who knows. Until

999
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: we get an answer. I don't even want to say

1000
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: we'll continue to speculate, because I don't even want to

1001
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: do that. We're just we're just gonna wait and see

1002
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: and we'll come praise praise. Mike McCarthy talked about how

1003
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: he loved being in Pittsburgh for this year and it

1004
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: was a great group of guys and mentioned a bunch

1005
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: of the players by name and and all that stuff.

1006
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: But nothing negative, nothing negative, But no, no big decision

1007
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: today from Aaron Rodgers like some had hoped for, maybe

1008
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: even speculated, with him making his first Pat McFee show appearance.

1009
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: I think since all the way back in training camp

1010
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: out in La Trope, hour in the books, another hour ago,

1011
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: hour number two, our guy Dan Brugler put out his

1012
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: first post Combine Monk draft. We'll take a look at that.

1013
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: And now, if there's been some trades, there's been some movement,

1014
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: there's been some extensions, all these things. We got to

1015
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: kind of refresh on cut candidates for the teams across

1016
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: the NFL as we approach free agency, and all these

1017
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: organizations happen to get their books right ahead of the

1018
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: fiscal new year. That and more an hour. Number two

1019
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: Euler Williamson. It's the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the

1020
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network