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Speaker 1: You're listening to Drackings Network the John Nick and Kenny

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Speaker 1: Florian Podcast, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 1: I can't get enough of him. Let's hear that next big.

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Speaker 3: Job, the Cooktopia fret Fer.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: That's what Cody and I have been doing today is

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Speaker 3: researching sheds. I'm actually entertaining building a studio in a

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Speaker 3: shed and putting it on my twin brothers fucking back

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Speaker 3: patio because.

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Speaker 4: Because yeah, well I drive it in outs to Vegas all

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 1: As you know.

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Speaker 4: As soon as I'm doing regardless of the time, I

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Speaker 4: jump in the corner drive home. And the other day

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Speaker 4: I was driving home or a few weeks ago, and

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Speaker 4: it was still daylight and there's a huge store if

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Speaker 4: you will, but the shed center or the sheds or

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Speaker 4: Rods or something like that, and I was like, I

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Speaker 4: was stuck in traffic and I was looking and some

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Speaker 4: of those sheds are amazing.

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Speaker 1: They're like mini houses.

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Speaker 4: I was even saying to Rebecca, to my wife, I'm

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Speaker 4: like I might get one of those. I want one

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Speaker 4: of those sheds. They look cool as hell.

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Speaker 3: Go for it, John, I might buy a golf cart,

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Speaker 3: but I think I might buy a shed instead. So

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Speaker 3: where are you right now? You are in your house,

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Speaker 3: maybe on some lower level. Where are you right now?

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Speaker 1: I am at home.

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Speaker 4: This is what used to be the kids' games rooms,

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Speaker 4: but now the kids only want to be in their rooms.

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Speaker 1: Well sitting? What am I saying? Kids?

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Speaker 4: Two callums in lives in San Francisco and college. Ellie's

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Speaker 4: never here, she's always out and about. She's very busy.

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Speaker 4: And Lucas is in his bedroom. So this is my

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Speaker 4: you know, would be studio slash Rebecca's office. I'm at home.

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Speaker 4: I've got a sweaty T shirt on. I just in

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Speaker 4: my chest I said my fall mile run sign the

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Speaker 4: saw on on. Now I'm speaking to the best got

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you the UFC Hall of Fame or former

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Speaker 3: UFC champion Michael Bisbeck of course with a special edition

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Speaker 3: of the Anak and Florian Podcast. You got the Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame trophy behind you. Why does that thing have

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Speaker 3: to be so heavy? It's a beautiful trophy, but it

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Speaker 3: is the single heaviest trophy that I have ever picked up,

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Speaker 3: and probably by twenty five or thirty pounds, that's like

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Speaker 3: a forty pound trophy.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, No, for sure, if someone comes through that

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Speaker 4: front gun, you know, and I'm here and I haven't

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Speaker 4: got my gun. I don't have a gun, but the

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Speaker 4: will to know that the Hall of Fame thing is

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Speaker 4: gonna come right through your skull, you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean?

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Speaker 4: Here First, normally, the heavier the object, the best quality

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Speaker 4: it is. Right there you go, My wife and I

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Speaker 4: we're going on taking shortly, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: You pick some ooh it's heavy, you know, so the

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame you pick it up with. Oh that's

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Speaker 4: quality for sure.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely something to that. When I was picking out

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Speaker 3: a wedding ring, I got a platinum ring because it

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Speaker 3: was heavier than white gold. Right, So there you have it.

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Speaker 1: There you go, all right, So exactly.

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Speaker 3: I have a few things that I would like to

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Speaker 3: get into with you, and we very much appreciate your

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Speaker 3: time because if there's one man in the world who

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Speaker 3: can lay claim to having a busier schedule than me,

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Speaker 3: it's you. And candidly, even when you're not calling fights,

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Speaker 3: I'll see you on the road for BT Sport. You're

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Speaker 3: filming movies in Bulgaria to take you away from your

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Speaker 3: family at months on end. You know, I commend you

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Speaker 3: for more reasons than one. Your legendary status at mixed

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Speaker 3: martial arts, of course, your bodily sacrifice. But this second

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Speaker 3: career BRO has been probably as time intensive as the first.

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Speaker 4: One, probably more time intensive, if I'm honest. You know,

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Speaker 4: when I was training, obviously, you know, fight comes very

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Speaker 4: intense time, energy, physical, mental, all the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: But when the fight's done, you have a lot of downtime,

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Speaker 4: And you know I would often get a lot of

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Speaker 1: And I think we were talking recently.

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Speaker 4: I remember after I did that film in Bulgaria last year,

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Speaker 4: you'll never go away with that amount of time again.

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Speaker 1: And that broke my heart, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I've been on the road almost every week this

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Speaker 4: every week. I've got two weeks off now my wife

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Speaker 4: because I said I'm home for a month and she said,

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Speaker 4: oh great, but I'm not I've got to be in

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Speaker 4: Kansas City on the fifteenth. These are good problems to have,

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Speaker 4: by the way, very very good problems. It's first world problems.

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Speaker 4: I'm not complaining.

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Speaker 1: It's great.

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Speaker 4: I'm earning money. I'm in both with the sport that

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Speaker 4: I still love and it you know, it does create

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Speaker 4: and help me with other opportunities like if to Kansas City,

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Speaker 4: I fly out to Europe to film Dead of Thieves too.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm busy, but I love to be busy,

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Speaker 4: you know, anytime I'm not if I've got two or

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Speaker 4: three days, like like I complain when I'm super busy.

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Speaker 4: Of course I do, because that's just what men do.

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Speaker 4: You know what, Oh god, I'm all busy. But if

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Speaker 4: I've got two or three days while I'm not doing anything,

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Speaker 4: I start losing my mind. I start freaking out, I

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Speaker 4: start panicking, I start overthinking everything in it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're gonna go broke, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. And Rebecca's like, Michael, calm, Now, what are

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Speaker 4: You've been on the road non stop for six months,

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Speaker 4: so yeah, there you get.

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Speaker 3: It is a balance, and I don't know that I've

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Speaker 3: extra recreational time. I think it's good for me to

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Speaker 3: be busy as well. I will say, though, man like

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Speaker 3: you don't complain ever, right, And sometimes as I sit

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Speaker 3: Adville every now and again. And I'm not saying this

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Speaker 3: to kiss your ass, but you never complain. You never complain.

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Speaker 1: I love I love doing this, Yeah, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I love you know. I mean even being on the road.

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Speaker 4: I love going to the arenas and the venues and

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Speaker 4: seeing the funds and feeling the energy from them. But

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Speaker 4: I love this as a you can tell as a

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Speaker 4: when when they're done with their fire career are few.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'm so make a tremendous amount of money and they

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Speaker 4: I did very well. But I still I still want

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Speaker 4: still want to be working. I still want to fill

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Speaker 4: being a commentator on all the other things that I've

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Speaker 4: managed to build. If you will, yeah, I'm very very grateful.

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Speaker 4: So complaining, no, Yeah, I'll ask for advil because I mean,

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Speaker 4: constant neck pain, constant back pain, constant headaches. I've got

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Speaker 4: little bit of advil will be required. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: Baby.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know you are, and you have my ultimate

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Speaker 3: respect because there are men and women out there like

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Speaker 3: mixed martial arts because of all of the fighters. And

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Speaker 3: He's going to fight again later this year regionally, but

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Speaker 3: but I know your wife has roots in Adelaide. Will

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Speaker 3: actually doesn't take all your money?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see that.

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Speaker 4: Is the question. My wife's over there right now. I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure what she's doing. She's at the other computer,

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Speaker 4: wants to leave California. I mean, like, you know, listen, women,

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Speaker 4: To answer your question, I want to listen.

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Speaker 4: And I love living in America and it truly is

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Speaker 4: So don't take this the wrong way. But when I

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Speaker 1: For the rest of my life.

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Speaker 4: I was doing it because I was involved with crooking

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Speaker 4: I parted ways with them, that meant partying ways with

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Speaker 4: My wife's Australian. She definitely prefers this kind of climate

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I never thought I would be saying goodbye

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Speaker 4: just recently bought a very small, modest home back home

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Speaker 4: friends and aunties and uncles and cousins and God forbid.

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Speaker 4: You know, Rebecca and I killed in a car crash.

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Speaker 4: They know who their family is in England, you know what.

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Speaker 4: I want them to keep up that connect. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know where we're going to settle. Rebecca doesn't

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Speaker 4: want to leave California. I'm like, you're out of your mind.

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Speaker 4: The taxes are through the absolute roof. And there's a big, beautiful,

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Speaker 4: vast country of the United States and we're yet to explore.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, John, I do think so California

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Speaker 3: How do you handicap that fight? Because Leon Edwards to

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Speaker 3: But I thought it was interesting that he led the

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Speaker 3: So you're not coming to Miami, Florida UFC two eighty seven,

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Speaker 3: Alex Paneda, you got the whole week off.

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Speaker 4: Never been, never been to Miami in my life. I

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Speaker 3: Let's really keep that. It's forty five minutes from my

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Speaker 1: I would move there. I bet would move there.

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Speaker 4: But let me tell you, I hear about Florida crazy people.

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Speaker 4: I will be covering going for BT Sport, but remote remotely?

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Speaker 3: Sport in advance of UFC two eighty seven and through.

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Speaker 3: Do you know right now, who's the betting favorite for

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Speaker 4: I used it to great effect many times throughout my

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Speaker 4: And I love watching Kory Sandagan fight because you see

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00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 4: all elements of mixed martial arts weich so beautiful footwork,

436
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,880
Speaker 4: the combinations, the head kicks, flying these uppercoats, beautiful boxing,

437
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 4: back to the wrestling. That's what separates mixed martial arts

438
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 4: from a sport like boxing. And I'm a huge fan

439
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 4: of boxing. But when you watch someone like Kory Sandagan

440
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,119
Speaker 4: the way he operated on Saturday night, that was beautiful.

441
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Speaker 4: The real storyline for me was because Marlon Vera wasn't fighting,

442
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Speaker 4: you know, And that's why I was maybe talking about

443
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 4: that more because I'm like, what is Marlon doing?

444
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Speaker 1: What on earth is he doing?

445
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,919
Speaker 4: Because he's a very accomplished, respected, powerful and dangerous fighter.

446
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Speaker 1: He wasn't showing up. He beat himself.

447
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,639
Speaker 4: Yes, Corey Sandagan was overloading with information, the switching of stances,

448
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 4: the different attacks to shooting, the takedowns, all the rest

449
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 4: of it that was making him hesitant.

450
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Speaker 1: But I also believed the.

451
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Speaker 4: Moment, the opponent, the crowd, the consequence all plays a factors,

452
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Speaker 4: Like when I thought George Saint Pierre biggest fire.

453
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Speaker 1: In my life.

454
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Speaker 4: First, I mean, yeah, I had issues going in. I

455
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 4: heard my ribs and stuff like that, but also when

456
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 4: I watch it back, I'm disgusting with myself. First couple

457
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Speaker 4: of rounds, I hardly showed up, and I felt like

458
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 4: I was stuck in the mud. To quote Connor McGregor.

459
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 4: You know, and I've been there, and many people have

460
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Speaker 4: been there. And every time I go in gyms all

461
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Speaker 4: over the world, you see world class talent and you think, Wow,

462
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Speaker 4: that guy's gonna be champion of the world one day.

463
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 4: And then they show up on fight night and they

464
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Speaker 4: getting beaten by some scrub on the regional scene. And

465
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Speaker 4: you know why that is is because of this thing.

466
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Speaker 4: And Marlon Vera, yes, was defeated by the the better

467
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Speaker 4: man Saturday night, but he was also beaten by himself

468
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Speaker 4: because he was afraid to pull the trigger because of

469
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Speaker 4: the consequences. And does that make me biased to highlight that, No,

470
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Speaker 4: it does not. And all those people that said that

471
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Speaker 4: you can kiss my British eyes.

472
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Speaker 3: No, I think it's fair. You were highlighting the inactivity,

473
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Speaker 3: and I think at times just sort of wondering aloud

474
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Speaker 3: why there wasn't more urgency that is as inurgent I

475
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 3: have seen Cheeto grappling striking. Just very surprising in terms

476
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 3: of the criticism. And you and I get plenty of

477
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 3: it right, and we are in a space in which

478
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Speaker 3: we are gonna it's not gonna stop right for you.

479
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Speaker 3: It's a little bit different the UFC Hall of Fame,

480
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: the former fighter and obviously in this NMA space, it's

481
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 3: pretty crazy. We share buses at times with judges and referees.

482
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Speaker 3: You're at the airport with Colby Covington. He doesn't know

483
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 3: you could have gone on pay per view and said

484
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Speaker 3: on equivocally that he doesn't deserve a title fight, and

485
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 3: then he's jumping on your back and you guys are

486
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 3: wrestling at the airport, only for him to later find

487
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Speaker 3: out that you weren't acknowledging his candidacy. I bring it

488
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Speaker 3: up because when Colby Covington takes issue with me spearheading

489
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Speaker 3: blab Muhammad's candidacy, right, yes, he starts VI.

490
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Speaker 1: And I'll argue with that.

491
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Speaker 3: No. And you know what, maybe for me I editorialized

492
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 3: analyzed too much as a play by play guid right,

493
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Speaker 3: So maybe Colby Covington has a case, right, I have

494
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Speaker 3: to separate his that part of it with any that

495
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 3: he's saying about my family, which candidly is not is

496
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: really just a veiled empty threat. But at first, Michael,

497
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 3: I got to deal with the criticism, right, like you've

498
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 3: had to deal with Justin Gatze recently, and obviously I

499
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: came to your defense, and then with Cheeto Vera this

500
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: past weekend. I guess I'm just curious, and I think

501
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: the public will find this interesting. For me, I've said repeatedly,

502
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 3: my skin gets perpetually thicker. But how do you, as

503
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 3: one of the most high profile legend in this sport,

504
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Speaker 3: navigate that seeming week two week reality?

505
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Speaker 4: You know what, To be honest, as you say, the

506
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: skin gets thicker and you cannot rise to it. And

507
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Speaker 4: I remember when I commentated with Joe Rogan is that

508
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 4: we just don't read the comments, you know.

509
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Speaker 1: But as it's human nature.

510
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Speaker 4: You're sitting on a plane, you're board, it's five am

511
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 4: in the morning, you're at San Antonio Airport, You've had

512
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 4: no sleep, and for some reason, I still can't sleep

513
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 4: and I'm led down. I just want to fall asleep,

514
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I know, I'll look at Twitter, maybe

515
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 4: that'll make me fall asleep, And all I see is

516
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 4: an onslaught of abuse. And it goes back to probably

517
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 4: the week before when I was in London and just engage.

518
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 4: He said the same thing. I understand Justin's point. I

519
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 4: really do, because he's a friend and a teammate and

520
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 4: a training partner and a brother to kamoraw Uzmam. And

521
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 4: when you have a relationship like that with somebody, when

522
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 4: Kamora's doing work, when he's landing a shot, when he's

523
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: potentially getting a takedown, that is emphasized in the mind

524
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Speaker 4: of just engaging. When Leon Edwards is doing something in

525
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 4: the mind of just engageing, they kind of dismisses that

526
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 4: a little bit. So I understand why you would think

527
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Speaker 4: I was being biased. I did shooting my personal message, say,

528
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 4: come on, justin what the hell he sent me back?

529
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Speaker 1: Loll?

530
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Speaker 4: I responded with, loll indeed, loll indeed, congrats on a

531
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 4: great win. You know, I'm not not going to get

532
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 4: upset about it.

533
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Speaker 1: It is what it is.

534
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 4: Some people I get a tremendous amount of a nice

535
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Speaker 4: word set as well, So you take them rough with

536
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 4: the smooth, you know, And as long as you know Dana, Why,

537
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 4: Zach and Detour, Craig Basari, the people in charge realize

538
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 4: and acknowledge that, you know I'm doing a good job,

539
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 4: then ultimately that's all that matters. Because you cannot please

540
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 4: everybody in this life, and I've given up trying to

541
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 4: do so. And there was a period in my life

542
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 4: where I was trying to do that. I was trying

543
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: to be beloved of everybody. It's not going to happen.

544
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 4: It is not going to happen. So the people that

545
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: appreciate you that that he's amazing and I thank you

546
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 4: so much, and those people that don't, well, in the

547
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 4: words of ConA McGregor, I'm gonna take this opportunity.

548
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: To apologize absolutely fucking nobody.

549
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: I fucking love it and candidly. My twin brother hates

550
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: when I say that word, but I probably don't need

551
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 3: to enter the fray. But in that particular instance, having

552
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: been there so many times prior and for me just

553
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: seeing how hard you work, right and again, if you

554
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: want to say I'm kissing Bisbeling's fucking ass, have it

555
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: that too, okay, But this dude literally deep dives on

556
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: thirty athletes, works his ass off. Everybody wants a piece

557
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: of him all week in London. I see the blood,

558
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 3: sweat and tears, or at least the fucking sweat and tears.

559
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 3: I see the neck, I see the back, and then

560
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: you got to deal with that after the fact that

561
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 3: I just felt like coming to your defense. So yeah,

562
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: you know it.

563
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: It is what it is, you know.

564
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 4: But as you know this, John, you know this very well,

565
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 4: and I look at you for inspiration.

566
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: I do.

567
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 4: John as a commentator, the first guy on the prelimbs,

568
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 4: you know, maybe making his UFC debut, You've got to

569
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 4: give him the same respect that you're giving to the

570
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 4: main event. Of course, the main event is the spy

571
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: that the entire show is built around, you know, so

572
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 4: you do. You've got to have an extra pop on them.

573
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 4: You've got to have some extra stats and fights and

574
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 4: little tidbits and personal nuggets. But that person making their

575
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 4: UFC debut walking out there for the first time, you've

576
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 4: got to watch that fights.

577
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: You can't just.

578
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 4: Give them the bare minimum. You've got to know who

579
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 4: they are in trying to put their story across to

580
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 4: the people. Because I remember making my UFC debut and

581
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 4: I remember hearing Mike Goldberg and Joe Rogan talking about

582
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: me and thinking, Wow, they know things about right, they

583
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 4: know who I am, and it meant so much and

584
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 4: I'll never forget that.

585
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do take that side very seriously.

586
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 3: We've got a few rapid fire questions on the way out.

587
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: Some of these are from our listeners. One listener wants

588
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: to know, and maybe you can't answer this as a commentator,

589
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 3: but if you had to send one man in the

590
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 3: octagon to beat John Jones, are you sending step A

591
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: Mia chich or Tom aspinall.

592
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 1: See, they're the two that immediately spring to mind. Good question, immediately,

593
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: It's a great question. I love Steve Amier chicch is

594
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: he gets in a little old? Is the inactivity going

595
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: to cost him? I don't know I'm gonna send Tom

596
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: ask me.

597
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: Now, I'm gonna send Tom asks me on Big Tom

598
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 4: as long as the leg's right. He's young, he moves

599
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: like a middle way, He's sensational, and I think he

600
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: is the future of the heavyweight division. We don't know

601
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 4: how long. We don't know if Tom Llavigy's hands on him.

602
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 4: I don't think John's going to stay around, right, you know,

603
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 4: if he beats Steve Pemio Chick, I think he might

604
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 4: do one or two, defend it three times and say,

605
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: you know what I did it. I made my mark

606
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: on this sport. I'm the greatest of all time. I've

607
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 4: made tremendous amounts of money. I'm still a young man,

608
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 4: and I'm going to go off and do something else.

609
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 4: I will not be like Michael Bisbee flying every weekend,

610
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: losing his voice and having his wife hated. I'm gonna

611
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 4: sit back in Albuquerque, New Mexico, where now those millions

612
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 4: will go off a lot furtherest the mine will in

613
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: California on you.

614
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 3: Well, the wife who may loathe you at times, is

615
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: going to like the way we close because we're talking

616
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 3: about her.

617
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 4: Boys.

618
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: Lucas is Lucas twelve years old? Right now? How old

619
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 3: is Lucas?

620
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: Lucas is twelve almost thirteen. Isn't that crazy?

621
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: Does he have a favorite American sports team? Or not? Necessarily?

622
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: With Grubhub, there's no fees on restaurant orders over fifty dollars.

623
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: You eat the food, Grubhub will eat the fees.

624
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 3: Wait.

625
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: Wait, grubhub is gonna eat the fees. Wait, like the receipts.

626
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: It's a metaphor for how grubhub is doing away with fees.

627
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: No delivery fees, no service fees, no rainy day fees.

628
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: Well, what if it rains?

629
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: Can I still her delivery?

630
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: Please? You can still get any type of food delivered

631
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: without getting off the couch. In that case, what about

632
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: the new pants fee?

633
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: Uh?

634
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: Well, I've never heard of that one, but I guess

635
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: we'll eat that too. No fees on restaurant orders over

636
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: fifty dollars only on Grubhub. Probably eat the fee. Details

637
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: at grubhub dot com.

638
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't.

639
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: You know, I've tried listen, and I don't necessarily watch sports.

640
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: I do enjoy football, I enjoy basketball, but I don't

641
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: have a team that'll followed Lucas.

642
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: He won't even watch USC. I do try.

643
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 4: I tried, Like I'll say, I remember when is he

644
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 4: thought Alice Perheader last last year, I was like, Lucas, Lucas,

645
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: come here, come the song come down. He was in

646
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 4: his bedroom and say and watch this fight because I

647
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 4: think when you get older you are going to enjoy this.

648
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: I said, and this is you know, this is a

649
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: big fight.

650
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: You'll enjoy this.

651
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 4: He said, Okay. He sits down and then I'm watching

652
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Speaker 4: and maybe he's on the bad side of my eye.

653
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Speaker 4: I look around and he's gone. He's gone on that whatever.

654
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Speaker 4: You can't force him. So to answer your question, that

655
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Speaker 4: answer is no.

656
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: He does jiu jitsu.

657
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: He loves wrestling, not professional wrestling. Now he can't stand

658
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: any of that silliness. But no is the answer me

659
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: a roundabout way of saying, I'm not a crappy dad

660
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Speaker 4: who is forcing sports down his throat. I've tried, he's

661
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: not interested.

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Speaker 3: That's just My eleven year old daughter is coming to

663
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: UFC two eighty seven because we're close to home. She

664
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Speaker 3: has never watched a mixed martial arts fight in her life,

665
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: whereas her nine year old sister loves this stuff. But

666
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Speaker 3: the ten PM pay per view. Call time for my

667
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: middle kid is too late, so she's not going to come.

668
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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: That last question amateur and professional combined over under two

670
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Speaker 3: and a half mixed martial arts contests for Callum Bisping.

671
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: Before all this sudden done, amateur and pro combined, we're

672
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Speaker 3: setting the total at two and a half total fights.

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Speaker 3: So I was sort of thinking maybe two amateur fights,

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Speaker 3: one pro fight, and then Callum Bisping will go use

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Speaker 3: his brain in other ways.

676
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: Rebecca sat right there. I've got the headphones and so

677
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Speaker 4: she can't hear Rebecca. The final question is over under

678
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Speaker 4: Calum Bisping, higher or lower two and a half fights

679
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: in mixed martial How you're all professional?

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00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: Does it matter?

681
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 4: Will you have more than two and a half? Will

682
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Speaker 4: he have less than two and a half. This is

683
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 4: gambling speed from the Great John on less. She says less,

684
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 4: I say more.

685
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: I say more. I think because you know, he.

686
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: Is such an avid fan of this sport. I mean,

687
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: he is like an encyclopedia and he loves it. And

688
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: I remember, because he's obsessed with wrestling and he does

689
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: enjoy jiu jitsu and he loves to hit the pads

690
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: and stuff like that and he you know, he's all

691
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: the makings of a fighter. And he actually says, you know,

692
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 4: he was just home recently. When I got back on Sunday,

693
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: he was here for a few hours. Still, he was

694
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 4: home for a week for spring break. And he said

695
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: that I've never had a fight. Never, And I'm like, son,

696
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 4: that is something to celebrate. And I said, yeah, but

697
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 4: I want.

698
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: To have one. I want to have one.

699
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 4: And I'm like, because he's got that, you know, he's

700
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 4: got that animalistic urge. You know, he's got a lot

701
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 4: of test show running through his body. And he cornered

702
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: one of his wrestling bodies in a mixed martial arts fight,

703
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: and he cornered him. And he said his friend destroyed

704
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: the guy and they were similar weight. And he said,

705
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 4: I can I can't have the flow with him.

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00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: Dad, you know, so I think I think we might

707
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: see it.

708
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: And look at who his father is.

709
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: But this is the thing I've told him.

710
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 4: I've told her, if you do fight, I'm going to

711
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: train you. I'm going to manage you, and you're going

712
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: to be Callum the Count Bisping. And he refuses, he says,

713
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 4: no way, Dad, No, I'm Rebecca chimes sing, oh yeah, no,

714
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: he's gotta have his own identity.

715
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, that is.

716
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 4: Family lineage, okay, callum the count baseb or you never

717
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: stepping find now. And he's like, Dad, that is never

718
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: going to happen. So we'll see, we'll see. Anytime we

719
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: go to the gym, Sorry, John, I know you're trying

720
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: to Again, I apologize. Anytime we go to the gym

721
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: if we end up arguing. We always end up arguing

722
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: in the gym. So I can only imagine in a

723
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 4: mixed martial arts environment with a fight coming up, what

724
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: we would be like, because he's a man now, you

725
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: know how it is when you get to that point

726
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: your dad's still treating you like a son. He's twenty

727
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: two years old, you know. And he's like, Dad, shut up,

728
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: leave me alone. And I'm like, so your form, your

729
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: form's wrong. You know you're gonna like stenjin is that

730
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: I am?

731
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you're not.

732
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: He's like yeah, I'm like, son, I'm watching you. I'm like, right,

733
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: lower the weight because the forum is nuga lower the weight.

734
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh dude. So this is the kind

735
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: of little bickering things that we.

736
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: Have is Lucas more coachable or not necessarily my dad,

737
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: I should say, because my daughters are coachable when it's

738
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: somebody else, but they don't want to be coached by

739
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: me at all.

740
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: It's the same thing.

741
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: Like Callum's very coachable, he really is, and so is Lucas,

742
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 4: and they both love wrestling in jiu jitsu, but when

743
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 4: it's DoD yeah, it's they just don't want to hear it.

744
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: Well, dude, we had Callum bisbeing on the Anakin floor

745
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: in podcast when he was like fifteen years old in

746
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: the back of a limo with you, and I remember

747
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: I remember fondly. I know, it's one of the few

748
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: things I actually remember with all the resident on my brainstem.

749
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: But I also remember Callum and the octagon. I think

750
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: after your win over Dennis Kang or whatever, it was

751
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: so ye as much love as there is out there

752
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: for Frankmir's daughter Bella Meir. Dude, like Callum has a

753
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: loyal following. I'm like the vice president of the Kalum

754
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: bisbeing fan club, and when that dude has his amateur

755
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm going to be all fucking in. Let's go.

756
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: You are the man joke, because you've always said the

757
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: kind of nicest things about him, and it means the

758
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: world to callum. He's very, very humble, so you would

759
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: never talk about things like that, but he does.

760
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: He loves it. He's a chip off the old blog.

761
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: Well, you know, there's no fighter in the world, pastor

762
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: present that I have more respect for than you, my

763
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: beloved broadcast partner, Michael Bisbay. I appreciate your time. Sorry,

764
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: Ken Flow is not here having some illness issues. I

765
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: know that was horror part of the agreement to get

766
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: you that you were able to catch up with your

767
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: long Frank Kenny Floyan, But the last here we are.

768
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: I do love and respects Kenny Flooryan. What a guy.

769
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Speaker 4: You guys have a fantastic show. Keep it up, John,

770
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: Always a pleasure anytime for you. What do you call

771
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 4: you guys? The the an Florian people do? What would

772
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: you call your people?

773
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: You follow with the minute men?

774
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: We're the believers?

775
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: How about the minute men for ray long ago? The

776
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: minute man? Is that good enough?

777
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: The minute man? There you go?

778
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: There you go?

779
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 4: Sounds like a line from fifty cent Many men with

780
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: death about me.

781
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: See you're not going to dance, but just need you

782
00:33:59,520 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: for our.

783
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 4: I will sing all day and I will hung up

784
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 4: because no one wants to hear that.

785
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: Hey, John, You're the mand Love you brother.

786
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: You too, Thank you brother. There is the UFC Hall

787
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 3: of Famer Michael bisbing with us here on the anikin

788
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: Florin podcast. Absolutely love that dude. And part of what

789
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: we were trying to do today was a little reunion

790
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: between Ken Flow and Bisping, because of course they worked

791
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: together for years at Fox, but Ken flows a little

792
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: bit under the weather. I do have one thing I

793
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: want to close with, and thanks to everybody for all

794
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: of the comments on the anikin Florin podcast on the

795
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: DraftKings YouTube channel, where you obviously access this episode at

796
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: least on the video side today. But this is for

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Speaker 3: Ray Longo, who, as many of you know, is dealing

798
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: with a hip a hip issue, and this came in

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Speaker 3: the comments on YouTube episode three ninety nine of the

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Speaker 3: Antikin Flooring Podcast earlier this week from Joshua C. And

801
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: he writes, I don't know if Ray reads these comments,

802
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 3: but I've had both hips replaced, literally the best decision

803
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: I've ever made in my life. There is a prosthesis

804
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: called dual mobility. I grappled for twenty years, did heavy squats,

805
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: jogged on cement, got to the point that I dread

806
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: walking anywhere, needed a cane when I did, I deadlift.

807
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: I still do jiu jitsu. I kicked the heavy bag

808
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 3: literally pain free for almost five years.

809
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Only thing I regret was not getting it done immediately.

811
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: I did stem cells in every stretch or junk science

812
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: thing I ran across, and nothing worked except the replacement.

813
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: If Ray still has cartilage, he can just get it

814
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: scooped out. The Undertaker talked about his procedure recently on

815
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan's podcast. I needed the full hip replacement, but

816
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: he might just need it scooped out. Can't remember the

817
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: technical term. So I'm bringing that to the audience in

818
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: case anybody else out there is having hip issues. But

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Speaker 3: more importantly, because I know Ray Logo is now listening

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Speaker 3: to the Anakin Floor and podcast back. So Cody Merrow,

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00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: our producer, thank you for bringing that to raise attention,

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00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: and thank you, of course to Joshua See And we

823
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: do try to read the comments. Cody will sift through

824
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Speaker 3: all of those and I'll try to get to as

825
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: many as possible. Thanks everybody for supporting the show. Hope

826
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: you enjoyed the one on one with Michael Bisbine. We

827
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: are back next Monday. We will take a look at

828
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Speaker 3: UFC two to eighty seven as that beckons April eighth,

829
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Speaker 3: so next week is a pay per view week. We

830
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Speaker 3: else that picks from Brian Petrie and uh probably an

831
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: interview with Gerald Merschard who fights at UFC two eighty

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Speaker 3: seven as well. Thank you to Michael bisbeing for our

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00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 3: producer Cody Marrol John and signing off for now. We

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Speaker 3: will see you early next week, yo,