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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper's Square, presented by a hard rock bet.

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Speaker 1: We are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is

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Speaker 1: the show that makes the squares. Sharper makes the wise

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Speaker 1: guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman. I am joined

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Speaker 1: tonight as always by my co host, my BFF, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my compadre professional better, Simon Hunter et o Simon Chad.

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Speaker 2: What a insane day, my friend.

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Speaker 1: The early games were so disgustingly bad. In the first five,

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Speaker 1: first fifteen minutes of combined game action for the Giants, Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, the Browns and New Orleans and Falcons. First

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Speaker 1: of those three games fifteen combined minutes, meaning the first

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Speaker 1: five minutes of each game, four total turnovers and a

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Speaker 1: Blox extra point. That's how bad these non playoff teams

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Speaker 1: were playing in these early windows. And then in the

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Speaker 1: afternoon we got some freaking burn burners, which was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Our final five were New Orleans plus three and a half,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati minus seven and a half, Detroit plus three and

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Speaker 1: a half, Rams minus seven and a half. We got

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Speaker 1: the Steelers plus three and a half tonight, so we're

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Speaker 1: three and one on the day. We're hoping the Steelers

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Speaker 1: can close it out. Oh boy, dude. The other thing

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Speaker 1: I'd be worried about Simon as a Bears fan. I

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Speaker 1: watched them get shut out in the first three quarters.

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Speaker 1: The Rams nearly gave the game away. The Texans do

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Speaker 1: not let the score deceive you.

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Speaker 2: Like.

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Speaker 1: There was some pretty inconsistent play from three playoff teams

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Speaker 1: that I think we're expecting a lot of, So I

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Speaker 1: want to get into it it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, football is hard, buddy. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I mean, what can you do? But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: can't leave. You didn't mention it, Miles Garrett. I think

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Speaker 3: that was the most insane part of the day of

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Speaker 3: the Well, dude, sach record, but you.

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Speaker 1: Didn't get to it. That's the whole that's that's the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Cleveland breakdown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's to me though off the top.

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Speaker 3: I h I should have mentioned it myself, but just

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Speaker 3: that was to me the most incredible part. I didn't

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Speaker 3: not honestly did not think he was going to get it.

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Speaker 3: I think there was like nine minutes left. It's like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, they might just run it here and

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Speaker 3: never letting you get a chance at it. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was one of those moments you remember the rest

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Speaker 3: of your life, right, it could happened. Now they keep

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Speaker 3: adding games, it could happen. But you saw that last

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Speaker 3: one to get took him what three games. It was

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Speaker 3: just the hardest one to gets that last one. So

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, I don't know if he did him a favorite.

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Speaker 3: I think he was going to get him anyway, but

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Speaker 3: I think as soon as he felt him touch him,

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Speaker 3: he kind of.

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Speaker 2: Fell down there. So, yeah, that was a great, great moment.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. We'll get to that

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Speaker 1: game in a second. I got a lot to say

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Speaker 1: about that game because it kind of ruined my day.

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Speaker 1: New Orleans play US three and a half at Atlanta. Look,

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Speaker 1: the Saints and the Falcons traded turnovers in those first

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Speaker 1: five minutes. The Saints got a blocked punt inside their

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Speaker 1: red zone that led to a Falcon's touchdown. But the

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Speaker 1: Saints were in it, man, that whole game, Like they

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Speaker 1: dominated the first half. They were only losing it because

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Speaker 1: of mistakes and being a bad team. And you know,

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Speaker 1: for a minute there, like Tyler Schock was playing like

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Speaker 1: rookie of the year in the first half. He was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if a lave played the kicker could make that

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Speaker 3: field goal in another life.

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Speaker 2: They win that game easies. They dominated Robinson.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe. I knew they would try to take

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Speaker 3: him away. That was my whole mindset was they don't

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Speaker 3: try to take him away and make Kirk beat him right,

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Speaker 3: And Kirk wasn't good either. Like again, it's crazy they

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Speaker 2: The Falcons. Props to them.

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Speaker 3: I really did think there's a world where the Saints

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Speaker 3: if they played this game, you know, nine out of

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Speaker 3: feels like the Saints with a lot they would beat

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Speaker 1: Kirk Kirk was great and like he he had some

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Speaker 1: really good throws, and Kyle Pitts and Drake London made

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Speaker 1: some great catches today. Like it wasn't it wasn't perfect.

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Speaker 1: They played like the better team both offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 1: Their pass rush was all over Tyler Shuck for the

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Speaker 3: And if you're a New York child really likes Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: Kirk was not good today. He threw for one to eighty.

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Speaker 3: I think he played like fifty five.

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Speaker 1: I said, he made good throws today, Like.

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Speaker 3: I think he got away on the one here, but shuck,

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Speaker 3: he threw that pick. I don't know if you felt

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Speaker 2: When he threw that pick.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was the moment for him Rookie of

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Speaker 3: the year. Slipped away, got the ball back and drove

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Speaker 3: they going to kick the field goal. But it's like,

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Speaker 3: just get to get the touchdown. You have all the

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Speaker 3: it's always easy to get to three and then get

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Speaker 3: just made a couple of great throws, a couple in

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Speaker 3: sant catches by the Northern receivers. But yeah, that was

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Speaker 3: a classic. You just bet the number. I hope it

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Speaker 3: comes through, and honestly to the day, it's like I said,

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Speaker 3: if Alave played, I felt like that they really could

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Speaker 3: be Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 2: But it's all the odds of it came on. It's

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Speaker 2: not looking good for my bet.

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Speaker 3: Chat it looks like it gonna be Tyror McMillan, who

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Speaker 3: deserves it, Like we said, one rookie of the year

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Speaker 3: because they won the division. He hit over one thousand

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Speaker 3: receiving yards. YadA, YadA, YadA. I'm upset about it. I

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Speaker 3: thought Shuck played really well.

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Speaker 1: But look, Shuck, I really thought at the end of

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Speaker 1: That last drive, he had a pass he was They

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Speaker 1: he had placed it into Ronnie Bell's elbow. Ronnie Bell

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Speaker 1: remember this. It was a Carson Palmer which Nipple throw

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Speaker 1: like he landed it in the crook of Ronnie Bell's elbow,

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Speaker 1: and for a second, I'm like, maybe people will see that.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, like I texted you,

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Speaker 3: it all worked out. Our Panthers win the division, bet

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Speaker 3: can't complain it all.

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Speaker 2: It all worked out.

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Speaker 1: We get to think about the Panthers and betting the

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Speaker 1: Panthers for one more week. We'll get to that. They're

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Speaker 1: playing the Rams. By the way, you mentioned Tyler Shuk

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart after his win against the Cowboys today, had

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Speaker 1: a good game. A couple of touchdown passes, a lot

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Speaker 1: Shuck Rookie of the Year. I hope maybe maybe some

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Speaker 1: were making they were making offers. Jesus Christ, this game

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Speaker 1: makes me sick. The Browns at Cincinnati Bengals were seven

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Speaker 1: that fumble for a touchdown. Are you fucking kidding me, Bengals?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got that one's stung.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you knew as soon as I got what

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Speaker 2: It's like, you can't you can't cover for sure.

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Speaker 3: A good comparable team like the Rams. Maybe we have

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Speaker 3: got the late lead, didn't get the two pointer, and

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Speaker 3: you feel bad about your day. Chad, there's a man

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Speaker 3: out there and one of the biggest known survivor contests

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Speaker 3: in America. He took the Cincinnati Bengals, and he three

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Speaker 3: the whole contest that lost the other seven. I believe one. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you think you're having a bad day that that field goal,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to.

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Speaker 3: Put that perspective because I I add the Bengals money

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Speaker 1: The Bengals were so bad, and I've got a lot

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Speaker 1: more to say about this game.

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Speaker 2: In mind, I hated this game, like you did.

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Speaker 1: Well, look Zach Taylor. Every every this is Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 2: I moved on. You watched the whole thing, didn't you.

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Speaker 3: I moved on as soon as I got that second

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Speaker 3: touch and I go, all right, this this game is done.

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Speaker 1: I watched the whole freaking thing. I wanted to suffer

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Speaker 1: in my agony. I like, and you know, like some days,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep it together. Okay, I'm taking notes,

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Speaker 1: And I keep telling her I'm not here, Pretend I

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Speaker 3: I love you, like slowly turned into from always done.

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Speaker 3: He's never had that his entire life. He's never looked

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Speaker 3: But looking for you got a buddy Simon who told

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Speaker 3: get it. You're a Bears fan. You were believing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: For a second in the second half, I'm like, this

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Speaker 3: It was like, oh my god, it's worked. Whatever happened

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Speaker 2: He really wanted to win that game. You could tell

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Speaker 3: Yes, very conservative, and it worked. But Caleb tried the

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Speaker 3: It's like you guys, just it doesn't matter the game,

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Speaker 1: It is amazing, and I don't like, I'm not I'm

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Speaker 3: Like I mean, it looks like it was a close game.

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Speaker 3: You've made it my friend. At home Round one, hosting.

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Speaker 1: The number two against number two seed, we got to

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, really gonna be once again tough

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they're gonna do well.

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Speaker 1: Look right now, Matthew Stafford, we talked about it on Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: It's just tough, Like that's what I mean, Like I

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Speaker 1: Look, it's forty six touchdown passes, like he had four

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can look this up. Did he lead the

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Speaker 3: My favorite part was he he lasted Stafford this season,

436
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Speaker 3: right with all the noise coming in here, he lasted

437
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 3: this whole season, stayed out. Yeah, and the biggest one

438
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 3: that I'll just ended on is just that you saw

439
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: how great that Seattle defenses all year. A Stafford offense

440
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 3: would have like over five hundred yards against them, Yeah,

441
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: over three fifty and three touchdowns. So I know he

442
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 3: lost that game. But again, I don't put that. I

443
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 3: don't put all that on him. There's so many things

444
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 3: that went Seattle's way with the refs like that. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's uh, it's it's really gonna be tough. If I

446
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 3: if I did have a vote I've talked about, I

447
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 3: would give it to Stafford just because of the career.

448
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 3: But Drake May if he does win it, I'll fess

449
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Speaker 3: up to it.

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Speaker 2: He's worthy. Man.

451
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: The kid is just played out of his mind. It's

452
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 3: it's not his fault about the schedule. But yeah, Patriots

453
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: fan saying they have nobody Digs. I think I checked

454
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Speaker 3: my rankings. He might be great at as my third

455
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Speaker 3: best receiver this season.

456
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Speaker 2: Diggs for what he.

457
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Speaker 3: Does per PLA, EPA, per play break routes, all of that.

458
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Speaker 3: He's just had a really great season. I think I

459
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Speaker 3: get it. They're trying to make him more of the

460
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Speaker 3: victim Drake May, But no, he had weapons right, he

461
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 3: had good running backs. I know the offense line of injuries,

462
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 3: but you know Diggs is Diggs is no pushover.

463
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Speaker 2: He was great this season.

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Speaker 3: He actually played really well for them.

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Speaker 1: I watched that Rams offense and thought to myself, if

466
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467
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468
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469
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm interested about this Bears scene.

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473
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Speaker 1: Before we get to that. Dallas, we made sure we

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Speaker 1: didn't put it in the contest. Thank god. They were

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Speaker 1: a shit show that game. They were terrible everything that

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Speaker 1: is wrong with the Cowboys. They couldn't stop anyone on defense,

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00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,720
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Speaker 1: best odds to win Rookie of the Year. And they

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Speaker 1: had personal fouls and penalties, and they were undisciplined and

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Speaker 1: they were just to train and rack and atrocious and

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Speaker 1: you get what you deserve. Why what do you guys

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Speaker 1: something to say about that?

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Speaker 3: I was I think we avoided it. It's just something

527
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 3: was fishy about it. And uh yeah, the Dak being

528
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 3: taken out, I know, I know Matt Mitchell thinks that

529
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Speaker 3: maybe there's a world that Dak did when the passing

530
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: record or whatever it was, he threw for seventy yards

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Speaker 3: and I think it was only up forty yards coming

532
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Speaker 3: to the game. So just simple math, two fifty by Stafford.

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Speaker 3: No matter what, he threw for the most shards or

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Speaker 3: at least over Dak. I don't know about golf because

535
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: golf threw for three thirty. But yeah, just I didn't

536
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: see them sitting Dak. I'm shocked at then too. They

537
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 3: could have set a record for the Cowboys. And as

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Speaker 3: an Eagles fan, thank you Dallas. I mean they got

539
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: a boorish draft picks or better. Draft picks are good

540
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 3: good for the Dallas Cowboys, but the Giants now don't

541
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Speaker 3: have the number two pick.

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Speaker 2: I believe. I think they dropped in the order. And

543
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll get into the offseason.

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Speaker 3: I've been here in some crazy rumors about the Giants

545
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 3: and getting arch Manning and all the stuff going on

546
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, and like, I haven't seen much about

547
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 3: the media about it, but I've been hearing something about

548
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: it for a while about like a handshake deal with

549
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: him and him leaving, and I'm shocked he's not coming out.

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00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: Apparently he's going to stay.

551
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: But arch Manning, I think he would have gone number

552
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: two to the Gihnts if they kept that pick. But

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00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: we'll see what's gonna happen in that. But yeah, now

554
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: Dart maybe played himself out of it. Smart man. I

555
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: don't think they take a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Now.

557
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: They'll have what to pick four or five something like that,

558
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: because they they obviously have more wins than a couple

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Speaker 3: of teams.

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Speaker 1: Now, Oh look, maybe they can suck next year and

561
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Speaker 1: get arch Manning next year. There you go, anything that

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00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: you want to say about Washington and Philadelphia. The game

563
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: closed four and a half.

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00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: I think it got to three, just like the Bears

565
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: got all way down the three, which is crazy. Right

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00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: before kickoff.

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Speaker 1: They didn't look.

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00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: Honestly, not much a sale. It was painful because they

569
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: should have won the game.

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Speaker 3: I guess that would probably be the biggest takeaway. But

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00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: we talk all the time the refs. They have all

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00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: the power. I think Washington had four penalties for nineteen yards.

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00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 3: The Eagles had nine penalties for one hundred and twenty five.

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00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: And it was like.

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00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: All three touchdowns were passing interferences at the end zone.

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00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: They give him the ball to one and it was

577
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: just that type of game, right. Eagles were playing backups.

578
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: Think McLaurin played, Deebot played.

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00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, Eagles.

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00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: You know, if they can't go to Chicago and beat

581
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Speaker 3: the Bears, I guess they don't deserve to go to

582
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: the super Bowl anyway. But yeah, it's kind of heartbreaking.

583
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 3: They could add the two seed. I'm not gonna lie,

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Speaker 3: it's uh.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go. I don't want them going

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Speaker 2: to Chicago.

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00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: Coglay beat our asses earlier this year, So it's pretty

588
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: wild that Sirianni just give that game away in the

589
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: sense he really away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally totally gave it away. It was kind of weird.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to heroes and shame of the week.

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00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Steelers and the Ravens because I

593
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 1: know people are going to want to go watch that

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00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: in a few minutes, so I don't want to short

595
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: change it before the line has moved to four and

596
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, I'm only emboldened to take the Steelers now.

597
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: Like to me, this is an over correction in the

598
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: market compared to what we believed it should be.

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00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: It could be.

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Speaker 3: I have no reason. I honestly hate this bet. I

601
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: hate that we have to do it, and that's why

602
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: I made it. Simon says, it's like I knew I

603
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: was gonna hate it, but I have to do it.

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00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: I once again, I'm living with the shame forever.

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00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: Betting the Ravens is a five and a half point

606
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: favorite in this matchup ear year so Pittsburgh. I thought

607
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: this line would keep getting higher. It went to three

608
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: and a half after our show down from four and

609
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: we talked about it. It's gonna team up right the public.

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00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: It's the last game of the season. They're gonna come

611
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: in with whatever money they won or whatever they're chasing

612
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: on and bet this Ravens team. So yeah, no problem.

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00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: Grabbed the four and a half, like, I'm not gonna

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00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 3: keep giving out the stats. It's just you bet the

615
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: dog here. It's what we do. So I'm with you people.

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00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: It's not fun like that. Saints bet. Not fun like

617
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: betting these ugly dogs. It's never fun, but it is

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00:29:59,120 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: when they win.

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Speaker 1: Shame shame, shame of the week. Can I go first?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, brother Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 1: If I get one more shot of Zach Taylor standing

622
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Speaker 1: on the sideline and pursing his lips as if he

623
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Speaker 1: is stoic and unemotional in the face of complete and

624
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: total incompetency. If I were a Bengals fan, I would

625
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: be losing my shit knowing that this guy is my

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00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: coach and that this is my team. Forget about all

627
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: the mistakes that were made. There's things he can't control. Right.

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00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: They missed the first extra point, they missed the second

629
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: extra point. Their offense gave up fourteen points. Their defense, oh,

630
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: their defense only gave up six points in the entire game.

631
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Speaker 1: But he did not give them the chances that they

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Speaker 1: needed to win that game. At the in the middle

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00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: of the third quarter, they have a fourth and one

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00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: from midfield. And this is by the way, after they

635
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: started with a second and two, could not get closer

636
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: to the could not get the first down. He decides

637
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: to punt it instead of going for it. It's the

638
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: eighteenth game of the year. You got a losing record.

639
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: What are you playing for? And then at the end

640
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: of the game, when it's one thirty four left, they've

641
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 1: got a first and goal from the four. You've got time.

642
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: Why are you not running the ball and burning more clock? Instead,

643
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: they immediately go for the touchdown they score, give the

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00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: Browns plenty of time to come back and win the game.

645
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: But mostly my issue with Zach Taylor in this game

646
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: was their game plan wasn't let's win the game. Their

647
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: game plan was, let's try to keep Miles Garrett from

648
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: getting the sack record. So both of the Browns cornerbacks

649
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: were out for the game. You've got Joe Burrow, who's

650
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: a brilliant downfield passer. You've got Teagans the Jamar Chase,

651
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: who are the best receiving cores in the NFL, and

652
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: every single throw is short at the line of scrimmage

653
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: across the middle, desperate to not let Miles Garrett get

654
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: the sack. And what does he do? He gets the sack.

655
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: And as soon as he gets the sack, what do

656
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: the Bengals do? They start throwing the ball downfield and

657
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: they score an easy touchdown? Like, what was he coaching

658
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: for it? It was cowardly the way he coached this game.

659
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was pathetic. I thought it was an embarrassment.

660
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: I thought it was indicative of everything is wrong with

661
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: the Bengals organization and why they haven't fired. This guy

662
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: is beyond me.

663
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: Shame shame. Yeah, So for my shame, Chad, I'm gonna

664
00:32:53,760 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: shame the US government. What us coming?

665
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: Where is this guy going with this on a sports podcast? No, people,

666
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about shame them for those reasons. I'm

667
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: talking about shame them for this ten percent tax on

668
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: my losses.

669
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: Chat.

670
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: People don't know you were looking at me. I'm in

671
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: Bermuda right now. I have left my country of America,

672
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: my favorite country. I am gone, people, I am no

673
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: longer in America because of this tax law. People aren't

674
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: talking about it, and again I hate it.

675
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm one of these sheep.

676
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: I didn't care about either because I was like, there's

677
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: no way, there's no way they're going to tax ten

678
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: percent of our losses and they are this is really happening.

679
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: Like I can't get over it. I really cannot where

680
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: something like me. I'm gonna fly a waned around of people.

681
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: This is what I do for a living. I will

682
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: find a way around this ten percent tax.

683
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: All of you.

684
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: This isn't This is the most Unamerican tax in our

685
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: entire existence. This is a country that went to war

686
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: with a tea tax, and now we're paying a ten

687
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: percent tax on our losses with sports betting because we

688
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: choose to illegally sports bet and now they're going to

689
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: taxes ten percent on our losses. It's it's truly blowing

690
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: my mind. I can't believe it's not a bigger deal.

691
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: More people aren't crying about it. I guess it's because

692
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 3: no one cares, but you should. You were going to

693
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: lose your mind next year when this year is over

694
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six and you go to pay your taxes,

695
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: you're paying ten percent on top of your losses. It

696
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: truly isn't our manageable. Again, every dollar I make in

697
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: this country, I pay over thirty percent in taxes on

698
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: and then I pay taxes if I want to buy something,

699
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: if I to buy food, everything, my taxes and my property.

700
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: I get it.

701
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: We're all getting it done by the man. It's it's

702
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: a corrupt world we live in. But I cannot believe

703
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: this happened. I cannot believe we're paying ten six ten

704
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: percent of our taxes on losses. It's it's true. It's

705
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 3: blowing my mind. I really cannot believe it's someone like me.

706
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: I BET's big money. That is going to be a

707
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: huge amount of money. I am going to pay on

708
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 3: my losses because everyone loses, so it is. It's truly

709
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: blowing my mind. And I can't believe when the calendar turned,

710
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: it was so bittersweet in the book with all the

711
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: boys in ac It's like, we may never be here

712
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: ever again. It's it's crazy. It's just over. It was

713
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: a great run, but it is over. Shame on you

714
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: US government.

715
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: Look, that's a feature or it's a part of the

716
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: one big beautiful bill that was passed for those who

717
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: didn't pay attention, because it's a very inside professional sports

718
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: betting thing is you are now getting taxed on losses

719
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: as a professional. Better We're going to dig into this

720
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: more in the off season because I do think it's fascinating,

721
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: not just professional, right, it's injurious for anyone who bets,

722
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: but all of a sudden, like you used to be

723
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: able to deduct all of your losses. So if you

724
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: made one hundred dollars but you lost one hundred dollars,

725
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: you were now paying taxes on the zero. But now

726
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: if you make one hundred dollars and you lose one

727
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, you are actually paying taxes on the amount

728
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: that you lost. So you've made zero, but you're paying

729
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: taxes on the ten dollars. That is the delta.

730
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: I'll bet won twenty lines like it's never been worse.

731
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: I cannot go to a route that it is right now.

732
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: It's bad. It's bad. By the way, Shame on the AGA,

733
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: the American Gaming Association, which did not do anything to

734
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: stop this. In fact, after the One Big Beautiful Bill

735
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: was passed, they were touting how fantastic it was for

736
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: betters and didn't even notice that this was in the bill,

737
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: So shame on them and their ineffectiveness. Okay, hero of

738
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: the Week, Simon, I don't know how it can't be

739
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: Tyler Shock who gave us such a glorious ride the

740
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: past few weeks even if I wasn't along for it.

741
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: He's been great and was a guy who we consistently

742
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: wanted to bet on, and it came through for us

743
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: today at the end of the year, in the last game,

744
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: in the last quarter, in the last minutes, he found

745
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: a way to get us to win by playing the number.

746
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: Tyler Shock. Congrats to you on a glorious, glorious season.

747
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: We love you, Shuck.

748
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: I's sad this might be it for us, Like I

749
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: bet next year the magic will be gone.

750
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: He'll be You'll go back to being.

751
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: Terrible because he is like, oh my god, five years

752
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: old already. But what a moment we had here in

753
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: his rookie season.

754
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, totally. Who's your hero?

755
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: My hair of the week, I'm going with Atlantic City.

756
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: I know it should be a player, but I'm going

757
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: with my favorite place to be, the City.

758
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: Just a little history.

759
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: June fourteenth, twenty eighteen, at the mo Month Racetrack. I

760
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: believe our Governor Philip Murphy placed the first bet. Yes,

761
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: and that you know, same night I went down to

762
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: Borgata and was one of the few people that play

763
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 3: place the Future.

764
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: I think my first future was literly on the Eagles.

765
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: It was it was just like even talking on the guys,

766
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 3: it's just been in a magical run these last couple

767
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: of years in Atlantic City. It was just brought back

768
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: new life to the city. The books were always packed,

769
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: concerts came back, like the music came back, you know,

770
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: the talent came back. A lot of great comedians came back,

771
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: especially Oceans. You know, all these was hard rock. You know,

772
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: they had some great shows, like all of them, and

773
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: you know, I can't go over how great it was

774
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 3: a sports But when I first came back, because all

775
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 3: the books were new, you know, they brought in a

776
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 3: lot of people from Vegas and a lot of old

777
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 3: faces that I knew, and it was just a really

778
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: fun time.

779
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: It really was someone that lives to bet.

780
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: You know, all these different weekends time spent in the books,

781
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: going from casino.

782
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: Walk on the boardwalk.

783
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: I mean, the amount of drunk dights I had just

784
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: laying on the beach there being like what am I

785
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: doing here?

786
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: Like what am I doing? Playing this money? Why?

787
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: Why am I laying on this beach? But I'm gonna

788
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: miss it. It was just a very unique city. I

789
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: love and I guy said, I hope they changed these

790
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: tackle tax laws, and I'll be back in New Jersey

791
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: because it's just there's nothing better. It was the wild

792
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 3: West when it got approved. I feel like we had

793
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: twenty sports books. I think online came to pass like that.

794
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: Maybe it was like August. It was just it was

795
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: the best.

796
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: It was the best because Vegas felt like it was

797
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: the past and it was all old and everything was

798
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: new and better and you know, easier to make a

799
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: buck in the state. And yeah, it was just like

800
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: I said here of the Week at Lantic, City of

801
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: my Life, that was it was a great six years

802
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: and I honestly can't believe it's over.

803
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 2: It's bittersweet.

804
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: New Jersey did it right. As soon as it passed,

805
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: they did it right. Simon says this week was Pittsburgh

806
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: plus three and a half. We will get there. Chad's

807
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: choice was the Rams minus seven. That's a win, Brass

808
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: Balls Carolina plus three and a half. That's a win.

809
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: Rock in a hard place, Bengals minus seven.

810
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: And a half.

811
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: Motherfucker sharp versus square, we're double losers. Chat at Cincinnati,

812
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: Simon at San Francisco. Favorites Parlay Cincinnati, Philly, Minnesota, Rams

813
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: underdog Parlay, Pittsburgh, Carolina, San Francisco, New Orleans Man. All right,

814
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: let's talk about some playoff leans quickly. Bills one and

815
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: a half point favorites over the Jaguars. The Bills currently

816
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: do not have a placekicker. They cut Michael Bagley, Matt

817
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: Prater got hurt again today. I don't know what they're

818
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: gonna do. Matt Mitchell is apoplectic. The Jags are one

819
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: and a half point dogs at home, the small market

820
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: team getting disrespected.

821
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I don't know. Does I'm gonna hit it.

822
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: I'll hit the plus one and a half now and

823
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 3: the Jags obviously, But I would opinion here, I would

824
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: be shocked if this line flipped. I just can see

825
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 3: the public doing what they all are gonna do. They're

826
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: gonna hammer the Bills, the only quarterback they know and trust,

827
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: right like the AFC is all these people, you can

828
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 3: have a million different reasons not to trust. And the

829
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: one true fact is Josh Allen. Yes, he's never been

830
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: to a super Bowl. It's never I mean a couple

831
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: of games. I guess you could say his fault. Ready,

832
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: he has done things to be his fault, but it's

833
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: always been the defense that's disappointing them.

834
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: So once again, can the defense show up here? I

835
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: don't think so.

836
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: This Jags offense, man, they are a yeah, they're that good.

837
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: And this is an Orchard Park, So I know it's

838
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 3: painful to do. I mean, who cares. If you're a

839
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: man Mitroy, you gotta believe it's Josh Allen. But if I,

840
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: you know, get word that the foot stuff is all good,

841
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: the lower body is all good, maybe I could waiver

842
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: a little bit. But right now that I'm very, very confident,

843
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: I'm taking this Jaguars team, especially as a home dog

844
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: on the spot.

845
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: Uh. I want to think about how we're going to

846
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: do this because I don't want to go too deep

847
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: into every game because we've got so much to research.

848
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: But there's not that many games and.

849
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: Throw them all ayain, I'm not going to bet them.

850
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: That's just a game. I better right away, just because

851
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 2: they are a dog.

852
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: The Jags bears one and a half home dogs.

853
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 3: Also they're already minus wanting to yeah minus one and

854
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: a half favorite, like I told you that. Yeah, so

855
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: that's another game. I'll probably take a position, but I'm

856
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 3: in no rush now that it's already flipped Eagles open

857
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 3: two and a half.

858
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: It's yep.

859
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: So you know, if Brock pretty gets so a three

860
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: and a half dog, that's a conversation. But if you

861
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: want the Eagles, I would say, it looks like the

862
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: pros are coming on them. It's minus three minus one

863
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: fifteen now, So not only did it move off the

864
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: two and a half, it's already minus one fifteen on

865
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: the threes, So it's it's an interesting movement. And yeah,

866
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: Panthers plus ten and a half against the Rams. I

867
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: know Chad's already thinking his mind, we got to take

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Speaker 3: the Panthers, but I'll see if I can talk them

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Speaker 3: off that.

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Speaker 1: I don't actually feel that way. I don't feel that way.

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Speaker 1: You know why, because look, I love the Rams. I

872
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: think they're amazing, and I think they're a juggernaut and

873
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: I love watching them. And I do think that the Panthers,

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00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: while they didn't play great, they played well enough for

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Speaker 1: them to go stink it up in the next game.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, at home against the Rams, if the Panthers

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Speaker 1: hadn't picked off Stafford multiple times and had multiple touchdowns

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Speaker 1: on defense, they lose that game going away. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not entirely convinced the Panthers are going to be the

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Speaker 1: side that we want in that game. The last game

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Speaker 1: we got to make one comment about we said, we

882
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Speaker 1: can't wait to fade the Patriots in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Easiest bad grab it now, say plus three and a

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Speaker 3: half charger and a half, got it? Yeah, Patriots fans.

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Speaker 3: In my mind, i'd be excited because it is Herbert

886
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: who is I went to. But I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 3: guys all the stats. It's just it's always really tough

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Speaker 3: for the first year quarterback in the sense first year

889
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: in the playoffs quarterback. It's just different. The speed's different,

890
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Speaker 3: everything about that mentor. You know, he's getting the offers

891
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 3: for coaching jobs. He's the DC of his Chargers team.

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00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 3: They're just a good defense. It's gonna be interest see

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Speaker 3: how Drake made plays because they're one of the best

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Speaker 3: defense against deep ball. So I'm just gonna give it

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Speaker 3: out now just in case it does move. I could

896
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: easily see this being three once we hop on a

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Speaker 3: Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're going to dig in deeper. If you're

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Speaker 1: playing the contest, you'll be getting totals in the contest.

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Speaker 1: Moving forward, so be advised. We'll announce all the contest

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Speaker 1: details on Tuesday show, but obviously you're gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to We're going to expand the pool on what you

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Speaker 1: can choose from final review of our games. We had

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Speaker 1: the Bengals minus seven and a half. That was a loss.

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Speaker 1: We had the Saints plus three and a half. That's

906
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: a win. We had the Rams minus seven and a half,

907
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: that is a win. We had the Lions plus three

908
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: and a half. That is a win. We're on the

909
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: Steelers tonight plus three and a half. Hopefully go four

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Speaker 1: and one. This week. This has been Sharper Square presented

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Speaker 1: by hard Rock Bet, part of the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: We will be back with our next Sharper Square on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: To go over the entire playoff slate, watch or listen

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Speaker 1: get your pods, rate review, subscribe webs five stars, say

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Speaker 1: I love you in.

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Speaker 2: Your seat belts.

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Speaker 1: It's playoff time. M h m hm