Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast will Never Die. Welcome to
Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name
Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis, and I am joined in a room
Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosathal.
Speaker 1: What is up, boys, Hey, it's one of the best
Speaker 1: shows of the year. We're rolling out best shows of
Speaker 1: the year one by one. Last episode, of course, was
Speaker 1: Around the NFL in sixty three minutes spectacular, which really
Speaker 1: went off blazingly sixty two I guess, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: some some ill behavior by technically minded person behind the
Speaker 1: glass got a little bit out of control. But somebody
Speaker 1: got but heard about it. Oh, she's got all upset
Speaker 1: that they only got one minute on the only one
Speaker 1: per Yeah, you should see it. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: mixed reviews. I think we had the best time ever yesterday,
Speaker 1: all of us, and that's what matters. I agree most
Speaker 1: of us did. There's a saying, don't let the bastards
Speaker 1: grind you down. Ricky. Yeah, I'm trying. As I've said
Speaker 1: to you, not everyone's gonna like you. Not everyone likes me.
Speaker 1: It's just one of those things you just gotta It's
Speaker 1: part of being a top right entertainer, which is where
Speaker 1: you're headed. I mean, you want some that means that
Speaker 1: you're not saying anything that's you know, controversial or different
Speaker 1: than anyone else. You want everyone to just bow down
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, I have so many dads. There was
Speaker 1: an eight sitcom called My Two Dads, You do the
Speaker 1: spin off My and your Real Dad's like Erica. All right,
Speaker 1: that was weird? Okay, so yeah, great show. So we
Speaker 1: did around the NFL on Wednesday. Uh, today, go get
Speaker 1: my lunch. Yes, our annual Prediction show. Let's go easy
Speaker 1: with that. If oh that's a bad one, that's a
Speaker 1: bad one. Um, go get my lunch. Or annual season
Speaker 1: Predictions show where we we you know, we take our
Speaker 1: minds and we comb them for different predictions and then
Speaker 1: we put them to the test against the rest of
Speaker 1: the heroes. Here on Hero Predictions with sandwiches on the line.
Speaker 1: So everyone has had a lot of time, really a
Speaker 1: whole summer, but more likely twelve hours to incubate and
Speaker 1: come up with some ideas and some different pitches, or
Speaker 1: like twenty more minutes. Yeah, I would say the thought,
Speaker 1: did you crossed my wife? I've not been cooking these
Speaker 1: up for the past three or four months versus forty
Speaker 1: five minutes before the show. Yes, and our buddy Nick
Speaker 1: Fourtier of Go Get My Lunch dot Org has been
Speaker 1: tracking this for years now, So check that out if
Speaker 1: you want to see what we've done historically. Uh. And
Speaker 1: what once we make these predictions, he'll he'll put it
Speaker 1: into his old database and it'll be tracked. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then we'll circle back to it in January. It's it's
Speaker 1: a lot like preseason football. It's like a competitive thing,
Speaker 1: but there's almost no repercussions on what happens. No sandwiches
Speaker 1: and actually changing hands lately. Brought in some burrito's last March.
Speaker 1: I believe I brought in derritos. I wiped you guys
Speaker 1: out last year so so hard that I was not
Speaker 1: paying out sandwich is anybody um? All right, Well, we'll
Speaker 1: check in. We'll check into that because we have the
Speaker 1: all time standings as well. Mark. But before we do
Speaker 1: that big announcement, no need for them, big announcement, huge announcement.
Speaker 1: In fact, hit it, Ricky. The Heroes are going back
Speaker 1: to London. Oh yeah, oh yeah, the week of October eight.
Speaker 1: We will be in London all week through the weekend. Uh,
Speaker 1: and we will be covering with Sky Sports the Panthers
Speaker 1: versus Bucks matchup on Sunday October Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. Very
Speaker 1: excited about that and uh, just like last year, we
Speaker 1: want to do more than just cover a game. We
Speaker 1: want to connect with all our awesome fans in the UK,
Speaker 1: both in England and the surrounding territories. Not all owned
Speaker 1: by England, not at all like that, very clear, all
Speaker 1: fired up anyway, We're really pumped up about it. And
Speaker 1: this trip has been great for Dan's European historical knowledge
Speaker 1: and keep growing through the roof, through the roof and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, so Panther's Bucks. We're gonna be there working
Speaker 1: with Neil Reynolds and the Sky Sports people. That's excited.
Speaker 1: We also last year we did a live show. We
Speaker 1: don't have anything uh ironed out yet, but we'd love
Speaker 1: to do obviously another live show too. I mean we're
Speaker 1: doing if we're doing something. If it doesn't happen, then
Speaker 1: the shadowy League field figures have failed, because that's part
Speaker 1: of the whole idea of why they want to send
Speaker 1: us there. We just gotta the heat. Well but funny
Speaker 1: it gonna happen. We're gonna we're gonna have something. We'll
Speaker 1: do everything in our power to make sure there's another
Speaker 1: live show. Have we got over there? But and I
Speaker 1: know there's probably listeners out there and you know, Berlin
Speaker 1: or Rochester, Milwaukee wherever. He's like, how come you don't
Speaker 1: come to us? Well, all right, support us to the
Speaker 1: point where we start getting like extra jobs like sky
Speaker 1: Sports and that the audience just comes out in full
Speaker 1: force like they do in UK. Have you support us
Speaker 1: that aggressively? Like we'll go ahead, and you're asking for
Speaker 1: Rochester local television station task us for a weekly opinion.
Speaker 1: By the way, one one side note to this, dand
Speaker 1: did mention that you know a lot of times the
Speaker 1: the fans over in London and UK can we meet
Speaker 1: with you and get can we please? Can you sit
Speaker 1: time aside to have a beer? Dan offered to meet
Speaker 1: one on one with people. Here's not you just want
Speaker 1: to do the group thing. He wants to do the
Speaker 1: one on one So hit him up on the d
Speaker 1: M you can. If you can't reach him on Twitter,
Speaker 1: you can get through his d MS on Instagram. That
Speaker 1: option is open. Yeah, ply fifty dollars per person it's
Speaker 1: like cameo, but you know, for beer with dignity. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to thank and we want to
Speaker 1: thank all the people here by the way, Meredith and Mark,
Speaker 1: Brady and Hank and Sarah, my boss, and Marvel and
Speaker 1: of course all the good folks over at the NFL
Speaker 1: UK office who and and made this happen. So we're
Speaker 1: really excited to go back to London for another year.
Speaker 1: And did you mentioned Henry Hodson there? Yes, you think
Speaker 1: Hank would squash me under his thumb, but I was
Speaker 1: not a bad idea. Henry twice, so a good job.
Speaker 1: Also Henry Hodgson, vice president of International. He's handsome, he's
Speaker 1: stall he's got nice hair. All right, So that's awesome.
Speaker 1: We're excited about it. And uh, it's a testament to
Speaker 1: you guys, the listeners, let's now, and to us. Sure,
Speaker 1: but I'm just trying to spin it outward Mark, just
Speaker 1: for a moment, I like to point it back to us.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Alright, So today's episode, Yeah, it's special like that.
Speaker 1: It's all about out nine season predictions. Hopefully there's a
Speaker 1: Chiefs one in there, and then that will kind of
Speaker 1: make up for the fiasco of Wednesday's episode, but um,
Speaker 1: I don't have any so leaning on you guys, Uh,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. We're gonna go around the horn
Speaker 1: a few times with predictions, and then each hero has
Speaker 1: the opportunity to either say I agree with you on
Speaker 1: that prediction that is going to happen. It's a sandwich
Speaker 1: prop that I get behind. So I do not challenge
Speaker 1: you or you say no, you're wrong, You're out of
Speaker 1: your head. I'll take you up. I'll take you up
Speaker 1: on your sandwich. And then we have a competition and
Speaker 1: like I said, go get my Lunch dot Org Nick
Speaker 1: Fourtier Hero of Heroes tracks all of this and uh
Speaker 1: that we have a few There's a couple of things
Speaker 1: a little more housekeeping here. We as the off season
Speaker 1: rolls on West. As you know, sandwich pops they pop
Speaker 1: up over the course of the off season, so it's
Speaker 1: kind of a little uh pre go get My Lunch
Speaker 1: episode And this year the old zuser is involved with
Speaker 1: two Um have no recollection, neither I or else you
Speaker 1: wouldn't be bringing it up. No, they haven't happened yet,
Speaker 1: but they come up as challenges during this process. Um,
Speaker 1: I have me and Mark have jets Brown's Week two. Okay,
Speaker 1: obviously you know who's rooting for whom there, and there's
Speaker 1: a sandwich on the line there. I don't know, your
Speaker 1: psychological warfare with each other may have reached a point
Speaker 1: where you're actually like killing each other in the battlefield
Speaker 1: with bayonets with like simultaneous stabs to the gut. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then I have two sandwiches on the line with
Speaker 1: Mark and West that Gronk is playing for the Patriots
Speaker 1: by December. I think that one's pretty interesting. I don't
Speaker 1: think I would make the same prop again. I bet
Speaker 1: I bet that he would not. Yes, see, I I'm
Speaker 1: I'm on that, But I'm on your side now, Dane.
Speaker 1: I think he will. Yeah, I think I'd like to
Speaker 1: be in your seat on that one. Good job if
Speaker 1: you if you just want to, I'll just change it
Speaker 1: up right now. I'll take that, and I'll say he won't.
Speaker 1: And then three, because I I don't think he's playing.
Speaker 1: I think Dan got us anything. Anyone see him crying
Speaker 1: and mentioning that he couldn't sleep for two months. I
Speaker 1: don't see Maurice Harris five fifty yards on that we
Speaker 1: That was not a sandwich. That was a friendly, friendly this, guys,
Speaker 1: do you feel so strongly about this? How COMMU didn't
Speaker 1: take me up on the sandwich earlier in the off season.
Speaker 1: The reason I feel strongly is because of his press
Speaker 1: conference this week. I think Greg wasn't there. That might
Speaker 1: have been um, yeah, No, he he was emotional and
Speaker 1: that was a little jarring, quite frankly to see Gronk
Speaker 1: like that. But also he's also made comments about what
Speaker 1: the door being open, he's going to get the bugs.
Speaker 1: Basically what he said, if I get the bug, i'll play.
Speaker 1: I don't have the bug right now. That didn't make
Speaker 1: me feel less confident in him crying, just the the
Speaker 1: arduous physical toll that his body has taken. He has
Speaker 1: the back of, you know, like a sixty five year
Speaker 1: old man, and he basically couldn't live his life for
Speaker 1: five or six months. So I just and get it'll
Speaker 1: be a high bar for him to come all right now.
Speaker 1: The way we get into this customarily is with a
Speaker 1: open prop, right, it's a it's a community, it's a
Speaker 1: global prop. Uh. And this year we asked Chris Westling
Speaker 1: to come up what the global prop was to get
Speaker 1: us going. So what is it was? This year? It
Speaker 1: is which week, Well, Danny Dimes take the reins. I'm
Speaker 1: manning ushering in a new era in New York football Giants.
Speaker 1: His Yeah, one way, I think this podcast will be
Speaker 1: um more generous and and uh excited about these Giants,
Speaker 1: except for Dan, who loves Eli. I'm gonna go first,
Speaker 1: just because I wanna. It's gonna be so great if
Speaker 1: the Giants are good this year and and Danny Dimes
Speaker 1: is good, they have I'm gonna I am gonna do
Speaker 1: somersault pretty forgiving September schedule, which helps to inform my choice.
Speaker 1: But let's be honest, this is mostly just because I'm
Speaker 1: a troll who's small, petty, and it's gonna be Week
Speaker 1: seven after the Patriots take him down in week six,
Speaker 1: his last start of his career is against the Patriots
Speaker 1: with an l How delicious would that be? We wouldn't
Speaker 1: get him back, but it would, of course, because I
Speaker 1: heard you kind of mumble this in the last episode,
Speaker 1: the idea that this would somehow make up for this.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't. It wouldn't super Bowl Lawsons, It wouldn't. It
Speaker 1: would just that's this is the small and petty thing
Speaker 1: that it just would be Okay, the smallest, most petty
Speaker 1: thing you've ever said on the show. Honestly, it just
Speaker 1: would be and there's there's a competition there, please, it
Speaker 1: would just be fun. It would just be fun to
Speaker 1: see to Andyli's career because he ended the undefeated season
Speaker 1: in two thousand seven and then, of course four years
Speaker 1: later beat Belichick again. Yeah, who can forget that rock'em
Speaker 1: sock'em seventeen points and eleven drives performance, one of the
Speaker 1: great offensive efforts l besides all Giants. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it wasn't an offensive fire show there. He wasn't exactly
Speaker 1: nick Fole, I will tell you. I will say this
Speaker 1: as you know, somehow I became Eli's biggest fan because
Speaker 1: damn podcast, which has never been the fact. But someone
Speaker 1: had to step in and give the other side of
Speaker 1: the story. In that seventeen fourteen Super Bowl win, Uh,
Speaker 1: he could have turned the ball over four times on
Speaker 1: that last drive before the helmet catch and the platico play.
Speaker 1: If you rewatch that drive and I recently dropped the ball,
Speaker 1: I mean that the game the game, and there's at
Speaker 1: least two other plays, including a near fumble or you
Speaker 1: gotta get him credit holding onto the ball, and of
Speaker 1: course the helmet catch. Um if you've ever if you're
Speaker 1: interested in NFL history, because I do revisit that game
Speaker 1: for that reason alone. It's such a historic moment in
Speaker 1: the league's history, the whole thing, everything around it, how
Speaker 1: history could have easily changed like four different times on
Speaker 1: that drive. It's true. I mean the helmet catch the
Speaker 1: second most. You know, I would say notable play in
Speaker 1: Super Bowl history? What would be the number one? I mean,
Speaker 1: anyone who watches football would know the answer to that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You probably shouldn't make it more clear. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not referring to Eli Manning to Mario Manningham, although
Speaker 1: that was an excellent performance in itself, that seems to
Speaker 1: get forgotten by and Eli Hayters. So all right, let's
Speaker 1: get back on track here. I'm with you, by the way,
Speaker 1: and uh, I have it right here just because it
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, that's why I went first. What do
Speaker 1: you mean I have it written down. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to change it just because you have it. But it's
Speaker 1: a totally different reasons. It's because I, as I said
Speaker 1: on Wednesday show, I thought this was maybe going to
Speaker 1: be something around the end of October where the torch
Speaker 1: gets past Danny Dimes is great. August makes the schedule
Speaker 1: move up. But I still think the Giants is an
Speaker 1: organization are going to do UM. Are going to be
Speaker 1: a little um patient on this and they're gonna wait.
Speaker 1: So if if they wait until week seven, which is
Speaker 1: what is that, um, mid early October, mid October, at
Speaker 1: that point, uh, they have the Thursday night game against
Speaker 1: the Patriots, so they have the essentially a half of bye,
Speaker 1: and then they have I believe a home game against
Speaker 1: a had a great team, the Cardinals in Week seven. UM.
Speaker 1: And that makes a lot of sense. None of the
Speaker 1: your reasons are more emotional. I'm just saying you're coming
Speaker 1: from a football man. You're a football man. As I
Speaker 1: pointed out before the show, it's all there and then
Speaker 1: it all checks out. But that I think it makes
Speaker 1: sense right from that standpoint as well. Does that franchise
Speaker 1: has the patience of job. I've got Week five, after
Speaker 1: back to back losses against beat able teams the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: and Redskins, they have no choice but the Cendy lide
Speaker 1: to the bench, something that should have happened about two
Speaker 1: and a half years ago, but you know, never too late.
Speaker 1: I'm doing that thing in prices right where you bet
Speaker 1: wicked low when you think that everyone else went over.
Speaker 1: Because I believe this too, because I think this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a jarring, stunning intro to the season. Week
Speaker 1: one relief against the Cowboys, week to start. What's happened before.
Speaker 1: It's not crazy, it's not crazy. And remember Brian Hoyer
Speaker 1: got replaced at halftime of the season open. These things
Speaker 1: can happen a lot quicker than they appear to. So
Speaker 1: Charlie Fry was a Week one starter, didn't even make
Speaker 1: the roster for a week two. Yeah, I would say
Speaker 1: the Cleveland's ties to Charlie Fry were a little different
Speaker 1: than New York's to Eli Manning, but fair point. I
Speaker 1: mean when they trained into Seattle, the NFL shook the
Speaker 1: there this is the this is how would play out.
Speaker 1: The Giants are down three late in the third quarter
Speaker 1: at Big D. They're not moving the ball. Eli looks
Speaker 1: confused and it's thrown. Two interceptions lost, the fumble. They
Speaker 1: put in Danny Dimes, who leads them onto kind of
Speaker 1: meaningless drives that get ten or fourteen points, and then
Speaker 1: the real controversy begins. I still think you've got every
Speaker 1: borough of New York screaming at you if you're going strategy.
Speaker 1: See if I'm a Giants fan, I'm going crazy right now,
Speaker 1: because to me, you could have gotten really late. They
Speaker 1: have such an easy schedule, relatively, they have a pretty
Speaker 1: forgiving schedule, and you mentioned some of the teams they played.
Speaker 1: It's pretty easy to see them being three and three,
Speaker 1: and it just and it just kind of going here.
Speaker 1: I'm you're living in a world where ELI is still good.
Speaker 1: Though with that theory, a lot of people say, you
Speaker 1: played really well in the second half last year. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: So what happens with washed up quarterbacks when the season
Speaker 1: no longer matters, when the game no longer matters, is
Speaker 1: when they can suddenly move the ball. All right, let's
Speaker 1: now move into the predictions phase. Mark, why don't you
Speaker 1: get us going, buddy? Okay, here we go with the
Speaker 1: trade deadline past. John Gruden and the banged up running
Speaker 1: back needy Raiders will shock football historians by dialing up
Speaker 1: a former arch enemy of Al Davis for help successfully
Speaker 1: pulling Marcus Allen out of retirement to eight Just kidding, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's my real one. Last year, this part time but
Speaker 1: electric player accounted for two regular season touchdowns. I am
Speaker 1: predicting a larger role for one of my favorite characters
Speaker 1: league wide, Taysom Hill, who will account for seven Saints
Speaker 1: regular season touchdowns. I'm not saying it's the sexiest prop
Speaker 1: bed of all time, but I looked player and I
Speaker 1: think his roles at least seven, not seven on the nose,
Speaker 1: seven or more. It's important touchdowns. And I think this
Speaker 1: comes through. I'm not this is this is off the bet,
Speaker 1: but he's it's gonna be a little bit. These are
Speaker 1: just sandwaids or proff the prop a little bit through
Speaker 1: the air too. I think they're gonna find a way
Speaker 1: to incorporate him to a juicy degree and he's going
Speaker 1: to be very successful. You know, I'm taking you up
Speaker 1: on this. And I talked about Hill a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and and how Grady looks and you wonder
Speaker 1: if Peyton is going to be tempted, uh, And you
Speaker 1: wonder if that would cost him consternation for Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: who is the man there. Uh. But this is a
Speaker 1: classic getting sucked in a little bit by the preseason
Speaker 1: and then in October when Hill has you know, twenty
Speaker 1: three touches, it'll be like, ah, that Week two preseason
Speaker 1: performance got me, So I like where your head's at.
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's gonna sniff seven touches. That hurts,
Speaker 1: because this is probably the most logical, uh terrorist from
Speaker 1: based prop that I've come up with. I'll take you
Speaker 1: up on that. I don't think it's crazy. They did
Speaker 1: use him in the red zone quite a bit. Uh.
Speaker 1: They used them near the goal line quite a bit
Speaker 1: a year ago. I think that could increase this year.
Speaker 1: I think you could throw more this year. I would
Speaker 1: maybe put the number, you know, if I if you're
Speaker 1: setting it around four and a half or five, So
Speaker 1: I think it's fair. But I'm gonna go under, which
Speaker 1: means I'm taking you up well philosophically, I don't like
Speaker 1: to do any props in which I have to root
Speaker 1: against myself. And I not only envisioned Taysom Hill throwing
Speaker 1: seven or more or scoring seven or more touches. I
Speaker 1: want him to because that makes it more fun. So
Speaker 1: I'm on your side. Mark all right, who has more
Speaker 1: touchdowns for the Saints, Taysom Hill or Latavius Murray. Oh,
Speaker 1: I go Hill. Well, I know, I think Murray just
Speaker 1: because Murray's gonna have every game chances in the red zone,
Speaker 1: don't you think he should? I think I don't die.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Kabara is one of the best running backs.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, you know. When I hear I
Speaker 1: hear all the stuff, it's like, stop giving any credit
Speaker 1: to Litavius Murray. He's I get it. But I just
Speaker 1: saying seven touchdowns over the course of games. It's not crazy.
Speaker 1: He's He's not as good as mark Ingram, but I
Speaker 1: imagine Peyton's going to use him in a somewhat similar
Speaker 1: manner in the red zone. I think job security is
Speaker 1: the wild card in that picture. We just don't know
Speaker 1: if Latavia's Murray will keep that same role for sixteen games. Alright,
Speaker 1: So two sandwiches on the line, West, I think, listen,
Speaker 1: I I don't want to get in in someone else's
Speaker 1: head or do someone else's laundry. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I think you let your pride get in the
Speaker 1: way there of a sandwich. No, it's just a feel.
Speaker 1: It's it's one of my philosophies of life. I'm not
Speaker 1: a big gambler, and one of the reasons we're not
Speaker 1: gambling here though. Well either way, but you never go
Speaker 1: against what you want to happen or else. That's a
Speaker 1: quality of life. I am not offended by you not
Speaker 1: taking it up. I see where you're coming from. Oh
Speaker 1: I see where he's coming from, and I also anticipated happening,
Speaker 1: So why would I go against that? All right, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're Uh, nobody knows what Todd Gurley is gonna do
Speaker 1: this year. The Rams don't even know. I say, he
Speaker 1: outproduces each of Levi On Bell and Antonio Brown. And
Speaker 1: we're gonna use standards scoring fantasy points as a measure,
Speaker 1: so it incorporates both yards and touchdowns. Uh do you
Speaker 1: get points per reception? No? No, that's nonsense anyway, So
Speaker 1: we're at this point that's almost standard. So to be clear,
Speaker 1: non PPR fantasy points, no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I know it's tricky because now I have toad to
Speaker 1: the corner. Though I know, I know it's it's like
Speaker 1: basically yards in touchdown. I should have brought my computer
Speaker 1: up here, just you know, because I'm wondering, like even
Speaker 1: a normal Antonio Brown year versus fantasy prop. I like it.
Speaker 1: That's juicy. Wait Bell or either either leavy On Bell
Speaker 1: or Antonio Brown either or not both each of them,
Speaker 1: both of them, but not point them. Yes, he's got
Speaker 1: out point him. You know, he's got a huge edge
Speaker 1: on Antonio Brown coming out of the gate because he
Speaker 1: catches passes and runs. Uh. I mean, just statistically, the
Speaker 1: odds are running backs going to score more than than
Speaker 1: a receiver, even the good ones. It's just the odds
Speaker 1: are Uh. Although I think Brown is being drafted ahead
Speaker 1: of Girly and mostly sure, but that's for many different factors.
Speaker 1: I mean, quarterbacks score more points than those guys too.
Speaker 1: So then it comes down to Bell. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: you up on it, but I don't feel great about it.
Speaker 1: I think this is a good prop. You did reel
Speaker 1: me in, but I think it's pretty close to fifty
Speaker 1: fifty I'll give I'm gonna give Bell a little bit
Speaker 1: of an edge because I don't know if that's what
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for, but that's what I expect to happen.
Speaker 1: I love watching Intone Levy on Bell. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna have a good season. It's a good one. By
Speaker 1: the way, I have Matt and twenty and Levy on belt.
Speaker 1: A lot of fun to play on Matt and twenty.
Speaker 1: Whenever you can get good players on your your favorite
Speaker 1: team in real life, that's a that's some side. Um.
Speaker 1: If Bell stays healthy, big if because he's never really
Speaker 1: stayed healthy um or not often his career. But if
Speaker 1: he does, and he plays a similar amount of games
Speaker 1: or the same amount of games as Girly, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna out touch him by like eighty touches potentially.
Speaker 1: Really he's I mean, I think they're gonna be smart
Speaker 1: with Girly, and I think Bell is gonna be He's.
Speaker 1: They're gonna pound the ball into Bell while they have
Speaker 1: them for two years. I think the Jets. Um, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that I feel confident about Bell. Uh.
Speaker 1: I also wanted to happen, So yes, I will take
Speaker 1: you up on it. Antonio Brown is a bit of
Speaker 1: a wild card to me for a lot of reasons,
Speaker 1: and to Gruden, uh and to Gruden and to himself.
Speaker 1: But uh, that could happen as well. But I like
Speaker 1: Bell's usage leading to more fantasy. The savvy. It was
Speaker 1: a savvy, savvy one here because he picked one guy
Speaker 1: on a great offense and two guys on who knows
Speaker 1: how those offenses. Also a guy the brick layer of
Speaker 1: Rhoda World, one of the brick layers. That's just smart West.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're in your territory right now, and I
Speaker 1: feel I don't feel comfortable going against you on this,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I gotta do it a total right.
Speaker 1: No one knows what Girly is this year. I'll take
Speaker 1: you up because for when it and it's because of Bell,
Speaker 1: because I look around the rest of that Jets offense
Speaker 1: and I think there's some good receivers there and and
Speaker 1: I guess I could fall into the idea that time
Speaker 1: Montgomery is gonna have this role, which I think probably
Speaker 1: withers up to some degree by week three or week
Speaker 1: or when they just give love Bell the ball a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty times a game. You con I'm going
Speaker 1: with Bell. I think he's gonna out too, because I
Speaker 1: also think Girl is the kind of guy that if
Speaker 1: they get into a situation like last year, such a
Speaker 1: wild card, they could rest him a game or two.
Speaker 1: He could be if they're if they're twelve wins rolling
Speaker 1: into January. You don't need a plan him on some
Speaker 1: of these games, maybe if they've got it in control.
Speaker 1: So I'm going I'm going taking you up, all right, Um, okay,
Speaker 1: three sandwiches there, all right, I'm gonna throw some cold
Speaker 1: water on that juicy sound drop. I'm gonna throw some
Speaker 1: cold water on everybody's up in their feelings about the
Speaker 1: cults right now. So I'm going to take advantage of
Speaker 1: you guys are all emotional and as like a tactician
Speaker 1: clinically minded, I am going to earn sandwiches now that
Speaker 1: I know how to counter this effort. By the way,
Speaker 1: here we go, you're spelling out his plan before announcing that. No,
Speaker 1: I'm daring you not to. I'm daring you to get
Speaker 1: out of your feelings. You want cold water, I'll give
Speaker 1: you some cold water anytime, all right, what, okay? Here
Speaker 1: we go. You guys are all about Jake Briskett and
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette and decidedly not and Frank and Frank Reigs
Speaker 1: like we will rally around Jacoby Brissette. And then you're
Speaker 1: reading these takes. Well, actually, Jake Brisket's the greatest leader
Speaker 1: since Abraham Lincoln and all this stuff, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a great guy. Like I'm sure he is.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that he's respected that locker room. You know,
Speaker 1: that's not my problem with him. I just don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the guy can play. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know he's a backup quarterback, I think, And
Speaker 1: if things don't work out, you're gonna need another person
Speaker 1: to turn to. And you know who they have in there.
Speaker 1: And what I completely wiped out by Andrew Luck in
Speaker 1: the drama is that Chad Kelly, swag Kelly played out
Speaker 1: of his mind against the Bears. This is preseason foot
Speaker 1: and let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Swag Kelly had beating out Paxton Lynch before uh with
Speaker 1: the Broncos and had a little promise. This is the
Speaker 1: nephew of Jim Kelly. This guy's got some lineage to him.
Speaker 1: He's a knucklehead, He's a major knuckle If being out
Speaker 1: Paxton Lynch doesn't show you're a great quarterback like Ryan
Speaker 1: Griffin and Tampa, then who knows. It's not. It's not
Speaker 1: just the Paxton Lynch the skills. It's John always saying
Speaker 1: I gotta eat the dirt on this one. So you
Speaker 1: got Swag Kelly, who's a knucklehead, there's no way around.
Speaker 1: He got kicked off his college team, he got arrested
Speaker 1: for going to Von Miller's Halloween party and then rumbling
Speaker 1: into someone's house and chilling on the couch. Who has
Speaker 1: everything you hear about Chad Kelly is that his head's
Speaker 1: not screwed on straight. But he got another chance with
Speaker 1: the Colts. I think he can sling it, he can run.
Speaker 1: And you know what when Jake Briskets not moving this
Speaker 1: team and there and their three games under five hundred,
Speaker 1: Kelly is going to start at least four games for
Speaker 1: this team. I thought you were going to go more
Speaker 1: than Burtt, which was even spicier. But so that's your
Speaker 1: that's the actual terms of the Chad Swag Kelly will
Speaker 1: start at least four games for the car. I want
Speaker 1: to tell you one thing, and you know that I've
Speaker 1: been at Chad Kelly guy going back quite some years.
Speaker 1: I actually didn't, but I believe on this show it's
Speaker 1: does anyone else has has that been C three p
Speaker 1: O memory wiped from everyone? It was last preseason, it
Speaker 1: was not some years, but yes, you enjoy. You call
Speaker 1: them like a robot, you know, ready to destroy the world.
Speaker 1: Chad Kelly park I understand that you can say that
Speaker 1: he's he's not got his head on straight. But I
Speaker 1: will say this, as he knew before the world did
Speaker 1: that their their quarterback was in an elegant, noble fashion
Speaker 1: walking away from football. Chad Kelly knew that. And what
Speaker 1: does he do? How does he respond? On the field?
Speaker 1: He goes sixteen for twenty one against the Chicago's Bears
Speaker 1: defense for two hundred and nine yards and a touchdown
Speaker 1: and a pick, A pick that should not have been
Speaker 1: called a pick. It bounced off a player and lands
Speaker 1: in the hands of someone else, statistically incorrect. Dan and
Speaker 1: I saw it. Talk about getting carried away with the preseason.
Speaker 1: He's playing the Bears third st. He was playing a
Speaker 1: Chicago defense. You know that bumble that interception rule them
Speaker 1: or fumble ruled an interception cost him forty three points
Speaker 1: of his passer rating that game. And so but Dan,
Speaker 1: I will I think that you are right because his
Speaker 1: power is going to rise up for for the spirit
Speaker 1: of the game. I'm gonna take you up just to
Speaker 1: take you up. But I will see this. I think
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to do that. You either agree or don't,
Speaker 1: All right, then I won't take you up. Forget it
Speaker 1: that that interacted, right, there's why Mark's in last place. Oh,
Speaker 1: there's many other reasons. I am excited to take you
Speaker 1: up on this. I would be happy to take you
Speaker 1: up on this even if I didn't think Chad Kelly
Speaker 1: would be your feelings about the three cards. Here's here's why.
Speaker 1: I don't even think he's gonna be their backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna trade or have a backup quarterback
Speaker 1: in place, and within two weeks he's suspended to start
Speaker 1: the year. I don't need him for the first two weeks, right,
Speaker 1: but you have to have someone in place. I just
Speaker 1: need him around October. Yeah, wait a minute, I am
Speaker 1: taking you up on this. I'm not falling for that.
Speaker 1: It's stupid, it's too late, it is not taking But
Speaker 1: even if they don't trade for someone, you know, howyer
Speaker 1: or whoever it is. Even if they don't, I feel
Speaker 1: good that that Brissette gets to know whatever it is.
Speaker 1: So I'll take you up. Mark. You're gonna kill yourself
Speaker 1: when this guy's the starter for half the season because
Speaker 1: he's fun to watch, and I'm not taking you up.
Speaker 1: How about that. I'm gonna I'm gonna roll with you, guys.
Speaker 1: I think you go onto something like you can hit
Speaker 1: a little psychic, little psychic line here, Dan, I think
Speaker 1: and you I think you did. You don't even eat sandwiches,
Speaker 1: so right? Who exactly the ultimately? No, but I think
Speaker 1: you might be right to do. All right, we're in Mark,
Speaker 1: all right. Chack Kelly and Matt Barkley are better than
Speaker 1: some some quarterbacks who are like guaranteed three or four
Speaker 1: million dollars every year to be a high end backup.
Speaker 1: I would love to see more of each of those guys,
Speaker 1: but I thought it would be bold to say, check
Speaker 1: Kelly starts one game, I can't go. I can't meet you,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, so you take me on it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm taking a right two sangwiches, brag your up. This
Speaker 1: is too similar to West's. But that's why I want
Speaker 1: to just jump in and do it quickly. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have Dalvin Cook of the Minnesota Vikings gaining more yards
Speaker 1: from scrimmage than the following players, Todd Gurley, Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: and Christian McCaffrey. He has to go, he has to
Speaker 1: beat all of them. Can you roll that those terms
Speaker 1: out again? I wasn't putting paying attention at Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey and Todd Gurley. And who's the first person though,
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cooking the one who's gonna be uh running wild?
Speaker 1: Why are you shaking your head? I just you know,
Speaker 1: going big. Something rubs me the wrong way about your
Speaker 1: your disrespect for Christian McCaffrey because you you don't you
Speaker 1: pointedly don't include Alvin Kamara in this. McCaffrey is essentially
Speaker 1: the same producers. I thought about Camara. I thought about Camara.
Speaker 1: I just like, I want to root for him to
Speaker 1: go crazy, so that goes with that. And I wanted
Speaker 1: to have some fire here. Let's have some big names.
Speaker 1: Who are the biggest names? I could running back, Chad
Speaker 1: Swag Kelly. I just was like, who can I who
Speaker 1: can be the star? The superstars? Picked three superstars and
Speaker 1: reel and some sandwiches. I like what you did. It's balls.
Speaker 1: I like that. Okay, you hung onions there. You could
Speaker 1: have that could have been your certified onion. It might
Speaker 1: have It was maybe going to be. But for some reason,
Speaker 1: since it was so similar to West's I just wanted
Speaker 1: to put it out there. Honestly, if you would have
Speaker 1: said two out of the three guys, that would have
Speaker 1: taken out, But you said alling, I believe it. And
Speaker 1: why why is Dalvin Cook to you gonna be entering
Speaker 1: the superstar clubs? Well, we did talk about it, um
Speaker 1: on the last show. How me and you dan the
Speaker 1: Vikings offense a lot. I just think an extra year
Speaker 1: away from that torn a c L perfect offense, a
Speaker 1: team that's gonna, you know, move the ball up and
Speaker 1: down the field, that's going to give him the ball.
Speaker 1: I just like everything about him. I think he has
Speaker 1: a decent chance to lead the league in in yard. Yes,
Speaker 1: if Dalvin Cook leads the league in yards or close
Speaker 1: to it, the Vikings gonna have the number one offense
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Don't count them out. I think Vikings
Speaker 1: fans would be happy with top five offense, top eight.
Speaker 1: I would This is almost a problem, but it won't be.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go through it, um a second time.
Speaker 1: Mark all right. I predict we will see something in
Speaker 1: the National Football League that has not happened since two
Speaker 1: thousand and two. Two thousand and two, a key year
Speaker 1: in American history when the Miss World pageant caused riots
Speaker 1: in Nigeria, when Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped from her family's
Speaker 1: home in Salt Lake City. A year when Avril Levine's
Speaker 1: Complicated and Shakira's Whenever Wherever rocked the dance halls. In
Speaker 1: a year that saw Chris Wesley packed the cineplex nine
Speaker 1: separate times to drink in the surprise cinema hit My
Speaker 1: Big Fat Greek Wedding Best Surprising. I am a romantic,
Speaker 1: but I just saw that for the first time, like
Speaker 1: a month ago, don't lie, and and a year delightful
Speaker 1: little rom com very nice. Don't act like you've not
Speaker 1: seen it before. The job done for an hour and
Speaker 1: forty five minutes or whatnot. And it has John Corbett
Speaker 1: from Northern Exposure, which the greatest TV show of all time.
Speaker 1: Most importantly, in two thousand and two, the last time
Speaker 1: that the Cleveland Browns and New York Jets both carved
Speaker 1: out winning records. Here we are seventeen years later, innocence gone.
Speaker 1: It is a rougher time, but the Jets and Browns
Speaker 1: will respond by repeating history once again. Nine or more
Speaker 1: wins for both the Browns and Jets. Who's in So
Speaker 1: eight seven and one doesn't cut it, that doesn't work
Speaker 1: this time. I'm just saying, and you know he said
Speaker 1: winning records and then nine sumer season nine. I want
Speaker 1: to be clear. I purposely held back because I knew
Speaker 1: you were gonna have a Jets Browns one coming, and
Speaker 1: I was curious how close it would be to mine.
Speaker 1: This is a kinder one to you. I feel, well,
Speaker 1: mine is mine's a little bit more ambitious, but we're
Speaker 1: we're going with yours. But mine was that they combined
Speaker 1: for twenty plus wins, and that was gonna put to
Speaker 1: bed all the um psychological warfare speculation because I want
Speaker 1: both teams to be good this year. Look at the
Speaker 1: olive branch. This is that even that psychological warfare. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want the Jets to have twelve and them
Speaker 1: to have eight or whatever. I mean, give me twelve games,
Speaker 1: but I think nine nine is a nice place for
Speaker 1: both of them to begin this. You're saying, okay, so
Speaker 1: they win, they both went at least nine that it's
Speaker 1: funny because I would probably I'm gonna take you up
Speaker 1: on it. Just because I try to be as Dan
Speaker 1: you know, uh exhibited earlier, coldly analytical, strategic, clinical, clinical,
Speaker 1: and I kind of do think they're both going to
Speaker 1: have winning records. But I think just the the yes,
Speaker 1: that's what the adds would be with going going against
Speaker 1: the Jets especially would probably be the over under around eight,
Speaker 1: you know, eight, eight and a half, and so it
Speaker 1: could could one of them go eight and eight. Sure,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it. Something can go wrong. All you
Speaker 1: need is one injury, you know, and and then you win.
Speaker 1: This really is the real psychological warfare. Move now is
Speaker 1: to take you up on this, but I won't as
Speaker 1: an act of good faith, I will not take you
Speaker 1: up on this because I don't want to root for
Speaker 1: one of these teams not to do well. Well. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think if you didn't reverse, I think I
Speaker 1: would take you up probably for where Gregg's coming from,
Speaker 1: that something something's gonna go wrong. But but they play
Speaker 1: each other. So one of the teams is already on
Speaker 1: one well that's a huge issue, or one of them
Speaker 1: is going to be one in one or ow both
Speaker 1: going sixty to now we've conf one team is going
Speaker 1: to have a thinner line to work with, even with
Speaker 1: the presence of Greg Williams. Think this is the most
Speaker 1: positive I've felt about the Jets since we've started this.
Speaker 1: Put definitely can sense that, UM, but I I think
Speaker 1: that's a big ask to get the nine wins from
Speaker 1: where they've been, especially with that defense and how shallow
Speaker 1: it is. So I'm gonna go I'm gonna take Mark
Speaker 1: up on this. I am because I think there's almost
Speaker 1: as good a chance of the Browns going eight in it.
Speaker 1: Not I mean, maybe not almost, but there is a chance,
Speaker 1: like that's a significant you know, part of the equation
Speaker 1: here that something goes wrong there. And actually the Jets
Speaker 1: are the ones that that that do their end of
Speaker 1: the bargain, but the Browns aren't. Is there any angle
Speaker 1: Mark with a tweak on this where they help each
Speaker 1: other out and tweaks and there's they just need to
Speaker 1: get to um eighteen wins as a as a group
Speaker 1: so one can attend can carry an eight that's teamwork, No,
Speaker 1: because because if one of them is going, because that
Speaker 1: means that means one of them is could could be
Speaker 1: a bit of a tire fire. And the spirit of
Speaker 1: this is I'm saying something is not happen since two
Speaker 1: thousand and two, And honestly, the only way that you
Speaker 1: and I can come out of the season without a
Speaker 1: lot of thorny arguments and hurt feelings is both teams
Speaker 1: succeeding to some degree, not one helping the other. Marathon
Speaker 1: not a sprint. Guys, let's not all freak out if
Speaker 1: someone's two and two, you know, or one in five.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we got that settled. Um, West
Speaker 1: and Greg take Mark up on it. I stay away. West,
Speaker 1: y'r up our guy, Al river On and alpha dog
Speaker 1: who cuts through all of the nonsense vice President of Officiating,
Speaker 1: get right to the point and doesn't suffer. Fools will
Speaker 1: not survive this incredibly shortsighted past interference replay review. I
Speaker 1: don't even think it was his plan. It was just
Speaker 1: gonna to be clear, you're gonna believe he will lose
Speaker 1: his job, not perish, you know from the earth. Yes,
Speaker 1: Lucy's job. That's good. I think that this is gonna
Speaker 1: be screenshot season. Well, when when's like the end date
Speaker 1: for this? Uh super Bowl, before super Bowl? After this,
Speaker 1: by the end of the Super Bowl, Hea gone, here's
Speaker 1: what you have going for you? It feels kind of like, um,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely not rudy against thou. I like,
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm taking you up on that. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think it would happen either. It's sort of
Speaker 1: like the White House spokesman, where you you've got about
Speaker 1: two years in this role and then you get burnt
Speaker 1: up and someone else comes in and takes the thing
Speaker 1: that maybe it could be his own decision that he
Speaker 1: could walk away from what are you saying saying he
Speaker 1: he will not be in that position. It could be
Speaker 1: his decision to February three or wherever, whenever the bow.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say what, I'm definitely taking you up on it.
Speaker 1: And I think on a on a straight, just mechanic level,
Speaker 1: I think it's a home run sandwich pick up and
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't announce and he wouldn't announce his departure
Speaker 1: until after Super Bowl. Yeah, I think part of the offseason,
Speaker 1: maybe you Warrior March. I think maybe there could be
Speaker 1: reports that that would happen, but I think it would
Speaker 1: actually happen Black Monday. I don't think that's how it
Speaker 1: would work, But maybe I'm wrong. Who knows. Maybe you're right,
Speaker 1: but I think it's uh. I think it's the league
Speaker 1: office is like we need to own black as we
Speaker 1: need to black Monday. Hey this, then again, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't like. Well, it's almost like you're rooting for
Speaker 1: chaos and and people that get upset with this rule.
Speaker 1: It's not even it's going to happen. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: you up on this because I think that he's a
Speaker 1: little bit more of an alpha dog, as you say,
Speaker 1: than the last person that took that office and didn't
Speaker 1: last you were for, of course, the Dino Blandina sweatshirt,
Speaker 1: sweatpants wearing Dino Blandino. I'm gonna go with the river.
Speaker 1: I mean, like jumped out of that and he's landed
Speaker 1: on his feet. Yeah, exactly, Like, Hey Dean, would you
Speaker 1: like to have a far easier job for way more money? Oh?
Speaker 1: Everyone would say no if it was who says who
Speaker 1: says that's being offered. I'm just saying that the von
Speaker 1: could take out eight men in an alley if he
Speaker 1: needed to. I don't think he's too scared about people
Speaker 1: coming at him on Twitter. Necessarily, you could get hot.
Speaker 1: Though he may decide this is not good for me.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that would most annoy Dean Blandino
Speaker 1: about this conversation is you say that he wears sweatpants
Speaker 1: and a sweatshirt. It's like track pants and like Dean,
Speaker 1: Dean likes to wear designer jeans and cool boots, and
Speaker 1: he hangs out with like an entourage type crew at
Speaker 1: these I see him occasionally picking up his his kid
Speaker 1: from school, you know, props to common man rank and
Speaker 1: sending his kid to public school. Still despite um, you know, great,
Speaker 1: sound a little bit like at there but there he's
Speaker 1: ever said. I'm just saying, uh, he Dan's right, He's
Speaker 1: always well dressed, even in a situation like that, So
Speaker 1: take it back. But I stand corrected on the I
Speaker 1: I for some reason, I thought I heard a report
Speaker 1: of him sort of marching around town with his bros
Speaker 1: and sort of like a high priced uh top and
Speaker 1: bottom sweat type thing. Maybe one of the best moves
Speaker 1: I've ever seen someone make connected to football was Dean
Speaker 1: getting out of that job, which is just a pressure
Speaker 1: cooker and taking a TV jo. This is like the
Speaker 1: part of the show where my mom sometimes tell me,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Speaker 1: A lot of the times, and it's definitely the last
Speaker 1: five minutes of Bledo, Like who one really quick? Counter that? Dan?
Speaker 1: I think that the the on air ref jobs where
Speaker 1: you have to jump in and give the correct call
Speaker 1: and then like, if you aren't a master at it,
Speaker 1: you get exposed week after week. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: that much better at it, which he is. It's a
Speaker 1: great job. I like wherever n. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have his job for a long time. I like him too,
Speaker 1: and a long time, and I think I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I commiserate with him on what I see is he
Speaker 1: can't stand this rule. Do you think he's in a
Speaker 1: tough spot and he's just not gonna laugh? Think it
Speaker 1: could burn you out? He thinks yes. I think he's
Speaker 1: been against this rule from the beginning and it could
Speaker 1: lead to some tension. I think River I Ran wants
Speaker 1: to see it through and he's gonna say, if this
Speaker 1: doesn't work, I want to be part of the solution.
Speaker 1: That type of inspired some great debate. I give you
Speaker 1: credit for that. Alright. Uh next up, Chads are Kelly,
Speaker 1: No Titans go nine at seven for the fourth straight year. Uh? Alright,
Speaker 1: how about this? This is not even based on really
Speaker 1: uh um, a strong personal feeling about these teams I'm
Speaker 1: gonna mention, but more about what happens every year in August.
Speaker 1: We think we have everything figured out, and not just
Speaker 1: this room in general, everybody that follows football and analysts
Speaker 1: and you think you know how the season is gonna go,
Speaker 1: and then it always goes in a direction that is
Speaker 1: not what you expect. So for that reason, the Bengals,
Speaker 1: the Redskins, the Lions, the Bucks and Cardinals, five teams
Speaker 1: that are if you did some type of you know,
Speaker 1: aggregation or if you did some type of waiting of it,
Speaker 1: they would all be last place picks by um experts.
Speaker 1: Thank you, cogniscent COGNISCENTI. At least two of those teams
Speaker 1: will not finish alone in last place. I was hoping
Speaker 1: you were putting them in the playoffs, but look at
Speaker 1: to think of the divisions also, So it's a lot
Speaker 1: of people say it's impossible to imagine since and I
Speaker 1: did not finishing last by themselves. The Redskins, the Lions
Speaker 1: in that very tough NFC North, the Bucks who are
Speaker 1: kind of a wild card, and the Cardinals, who are
Speaker 1: so talent poor as we just talked about, uh that
Speaker 1: that's gonna be very hard to move up in that
Speaker 1: NFC West. I find it interesting that you have the
Speaker 1: Redskins in here, just kind of threw them in there
Speaker 1: just because they're a bit of a wild card, because
Speaker 1: I think most people would have the Giants as the
Speaker 1: doormat in that division. That's a little bone throw because
Speaker 1: they're they're kind of a coin toss in the East,
Speaker 1: because because the fact that they well, plus if they
Speaker 1: can just tie, plus the time for last places stinky cheese,
Speaker 1: Like two teams go four and twelve, you know that
Speaker 1: that counts and you get credit for that. My head
Speaker 1: hurts on this one. How are you five teams you
Speaker 1: named Bengals, Redskins, Lions, Bucks, Cardinals. At least two of
Speaker 1: those teams aren't finishing alone in the cellar? Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll take you up on it just for the sake
Speaker 1: of the spirit of the game. But I mean it's, uh,
Speaker 1: it's a good one, nice, nice work. Solid. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go coldly and analytical and not take you up for once,
Speaker 1: because that's I think that's like, yeah, at this point, Greg,
Speaker 1: it's repetitive and redundant to tell us you're gonna go
Speaker 1: cold and analytical. We I think that's not that's not
Speaker 1: a Hoyon hanger. That's kind of like that's that's probably
Speaker 1: the odds are he would be right on that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take you up on it. Just for gets and
Speaker 1: shiggles because um my brain hurts. Ah. See whatever you
Speaker 1: can cause some brain knots on this side of the table.
Speaker 1: You've you've achieved it. I mean, it's not that confusing.
Speaker 1: It isn't, but it's I need a map visually what's happening. Alright, Greg, alright,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that there will be more PRP platlet
Speaker 1: Rich Wait what is it late platelet Rich injections conducted
Speaker 1: during the season than Arizona Cardinals victories so reported PRP
Speaker 1: injections reported PRP and NFL net. I could see Greg
Speaker 1: like hunting down. It has to be a player on
Speaker 1: an NFL roster who gets this surgery, as long as
Speaker 1: it's reported in the local news or wherever it is.
Speaker 1: And listeners, please let me know when you see these
Speaker 1: PRP projections in case case I missed one. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: more of those during the season than Cardinals victories. I
Speaker 1: mean the mat I mean, the odds are definitely in
Speaker 1: the favor of the PRP here are they? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It depends totally on the reporting. In years past, it
Speaker 1: hasn't been reported as much during the season because it's
Speaker 1: kind of the player's personal business. This summer, it's there's
Speaker 1: enough ticket scenes both in the treatment and it's the
Speaker 1: reporting here. That's the fact there spent. I mean, like
Speaker 1: some random blogger without a blue check mark count as
Speaker 1: a it's This one was largely inspired by again my
Speaker 1: mom's coming up asking me yesterday, Hey, that tweet you
Speaker 1: sent out a few weeks ago, you didn't really have
Speaker 1: a platlet injection. And I was like, well, you think
Speaker 1: it was possible lately, I think so you thought it
Speaker 1: was possible I may have had knee surgery and we
Speaker 1: didn't even talk about it for three weeks. What kind
Speaker 1: of mom work is that? I was like, No, that
Speaker 1: was that was a joke. Well, she's not coming from
Speaker 1: the cold, analytical side that you are. She's coming from
Speaker 1: a carrying parental side concerned about her son. This is
Speaker 1: a weird one. Greg. I will take you up on it,
Speaker 1: just because I do think this is becoming a a
Speaker 1: buzzy thing for players who want to play at their
Speaker 1: highest level, especially on bye weeks and things like that.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a nice little tune up as long
Speaker 1: as it's legal under the drug policy and all that.
Speaker 1: And I think Cardinal is gonna win four or five games.
Speaker 1: So yes, I think it might be a runaway. Now
Speaker 1: there's more PRPs. I'm saying, yeah, I think there will be,
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't take you take me? Oh you're saying
Speaker 1: there's more, Okay, so I won't take you up on it.
Speaker 1: I I will take you up on it. But I
Speaker 1: am concerned about falsely reported PRP. Why would there be
Speaker 1: it might be if anything, its trendy to be from
Speaker 1: a team, one of our reporters or certain like a
Speaker 1: chefty like no, it could be a beat right chefter
Speaker 1: is not official enough. I mean, if if someone in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is reporting that you know, Jordan Willis is getting
Speaker 1: the PRP something, you know, Tyler Dragon for the Cincinnati Enquirer,
Speaker 1: our old friend is saying that you know Carl Lawson
Speaker 1: is getting p RP, and that doesn't get reported nationally,
Speaker 1: that counts any I have a way to make sure
Speaker 1: because we always have to get this right. Let's check
Speaker 1: and Ricky, we're gonna put you on this the circulation
Speaker 1: of the papers, and if it's above a certain circulation number, okay,
Speaker 1: then it will stand as factual. So Eric, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need you to just every circulation of a major newspaper
Speaker 1: in the United Thanks Erica, thank you. What about sites
Speaker 1: that aren't newspapers, right, If I mean someone's coming from
Speaker 1: a very nice yeah, right, if someone if someone from
Speaker 1: the athletic it reports it, it counts, it all counts.
Speaker 1: Who where are these fake pr per reports? You guys
Speaker 1: are talking about that because it's become hyper trendy. So
Speaker 1: it's like, I want to jump on this is a reporter.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna gonna make it up. You never know,
Speaker 1: reporter look good when he's like, oh yeah, this need issue.
Speaker 1: It's not just the trainer. He's in Switzerland. He's getting
Speaker 1: the blood right. It suggests that you're very tight to
Speaker 1: Asian and player, that you've got sort of an insider relationship,
Speaker 1: and that some people could be could fall for that.
Speaker 1: It's um, it's a it's alluring as a reporter. Ricky
Speaker 1: Neck with the area of paper boys as well. This
Speaker 1: one hurts my brain too. I don't I don't really care.
Speaker 1: I will go. I will take you up on it
Speaker 1: just because I don't care. Okay, appreciate it. The stakes
Speaker 1: are high alright. Time now for the big onion hanger,
Speaker 1: and they better be big onions. Got the flu um.
Speaker 1: This is the big one. This is the one that
Speaker 1: you should get wrong. Okay, and if and if if
Speaker 1: you're not. If not, everyone takes you up on it.
Speaker 1: It was a good chance you didn't do your work,
Speaker 1: which just happened before. It's a bad look. There's been
Speaker 1: some my original onion hanger already, but this one still did.
Speaker 1: Everyone take you up on that one, So you're you're
Speaker 1: kind of covered now. I'm good though this one. I
Speaker 1: think you guys, you agreed with Greg now that Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook one was my onion hanger. That was a pretty
Speaker 1: good all right, Mark, give us your two thousand nineteen
Speaker 1: onion hanger, and again, check out all these predictions. Go
Speaker 1: get my lunch dot Org. Nick Fortier the man. Okay,
Speaker 1: So last night I asked the football gods for a
Speaker 1: picture of the future, and I'm not sure if this
Speaker 1: is what you would call an onion hanger. Per your standards.
Speaker 1: But here's what I saw. A snowy December morning in
Speaker 1: the Meadowlands. The parking lot is bare save for a
Speaker 1: lanky Caucasian in a double breasted trench coat and galoshes
Speaker 1: like your grandfather wore, trudging through the icy sludge. Giants
Speaker 1: owner John Mara gets into his iced smoke a metallic
Speaker 1: colored Lincoln Continental, steering the car out of the lot
Speaker 1: toward Hackensack, onto the past Yankee Stadium, beyond high rise
Speaker 1: brick tenements of the Bronx. Not really, I mapped this, Yes,
Speaker 1: papped past Pellham Manor New Rochelle Rye Playland, into Connecticut, Greenwich,
Speaker 1: Stamford or Walk, New Haven and up north through the
Speaker 1: guts of the Nutmeg Steak, crossing into Massachusetts at high
Speaker 1: noon Sturbridge Village out the side window, through Worcester and Framingham,
Speaker 1: and cutting south on four to Foxboro. Parking the Lincoln
Speaker 1: in the back lot of Antonio's Italian Deli, Mara flips
Speaker 1: on the high beams and waits. Seven minutes later, a
Speaker 1: knock on the passenger door. Mara kicks it open. A
Speaker 1: hoodie Belichick gets in, John Bill. What's this about, John Bill?
Speaker 1: I want you to come home to the Giants. I'm
Speaker 1: prepared to sweep everyone away like so much dust, full
Speaker 1: overarching power. Twenty million a year for life, Bobby Benillah
Speaker 1: times a thousand. We've got a quarterback. Now. This is
Speaker 1: how you cement your legacy for the rest of time.
Speaker 1: Bill cracks the door open, no eye contact, getting out
Speaker 1: into the night. I'll think about it soon after word
Speaker 1: of the meeting leaks. For the purpose of this prop
Speaker 1: we will learn during the regular season that a high
Speaker 1: ranking Giants official met with Bill Belichick an attempt in
Speaker 1: an attempt to wrestle him away from the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: The story will dominate the playoffs and beyond. Take it
Speaker 1: or leave it. So it's essentially what happened in nine.
Speaker 1: There were whispers of it. There were whispers of it
Speaker 1: well with New England and Bill Parcels and then the Jets.
Speaker 1: That became a dominant story. And that Bill goes to
Speaker 1: the Jets in January. This is I am not. I
Speaker 1: am not saying that regular season this the meeting will
Speaker 1: happen during the regular season, I am not so it
Speaker 1: is tampering. I'm not saying that it will be charged.
Speaker 1: Is tampering and per se. But the meeting will be
Speaker 1: reported as a regular seating season meeting between a high
Speaker 1: ranking Giants official because I'm now careful about I'm careful
Speaker 1: about these terms now because I've been bit on the
Speaker 1: the way that I phrased things so well, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying what will happen in the upshodow that will take
Speaker 1: the job or this other business, but it will be
Speaker 1: an official meeting that Bill Belichick accepted with a Giant's official,
Speaker 1: but not an official meeting is not allowed and alry
Speaker 1: so sorry and a meet they it actually happened. Yeah
Speaker 1: what now what if he like changes it up and
Speaker 1: like takes the pike to and then crosses that I
Speaker 1: said for the purpose of the prop all that I
Speaker 1: was painting the pictures so that we don't have just
Speaker 1: for your own good okay to season. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we're out. It does it? Does? I? I and that
Speaker 1: And that is tricky because I could get caught on that,
Speaker 1: except because it's probably these meetings probably would happen more
Speaker 1: and the like that you're worried about that that you're
Speaker 1: gonna get caught on a technicality. No, this is never happening. Well,
Speaker 1: the Giants have had interest in politics before. That's the
Speaker 1: where I that's where I cook this up a little bit.
Speaker 1: And they may be ripe for a regime change if
Speaker 1: they suddenly have a quarterback and a powerless head coach
Speaker 1: and a GM who thought about retirement before. And again,
Speaker 1: I want to be very clear on this before agreeing
Speaker 1: to anything. If during super Bowl Week, when the Patriots
Speaker 1: are planning for the seven super Bowl game, if it's
Speaker 1: reported super Bowl Week that there was a meeting during
Speaker 1: the regular season, that does not count. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: That well, so I said soon after, We're soon after
Speaker 1: the super Bowl is soon after the regular season. The
Speaker 1: meeting took place, we will learn in the regular season.
Speaker 1: You could learn about it at any point from the
Speaker 1: beginning of the playoffs up through Super bowlk Okay, so
Speaker 1: the deadline of even knowing about it would be the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, the super Bowl, the kick off of the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, because sometimes these things can sometimes he can
Speaker 1: crack Saturday before the Super Bowl. That's that disruptive story
Speaker 1: that tries to throw a team off. Forty Niners player
Speaker 1: quarterback doing cocaine. Same thing happened. Increase your chances from
Speaker 1: half to one percent. With that little addition, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's based in total lunacy because the
Speaker 1: Giants have expressed interest in Belichick before, and I think
Speaker 1: it is the only team he would go to. I
Speaker 1: mean other than New England. Okay, everybody is would like
Speaker 1: to have Belichick. But do you think Belichick is looking
Speaker 1: to leave there? No, but the only team. I think
Speaker 1: that that pulls on his heart strings a little bit,
Speaker 1: like it wouldn't be going back to Cleveland. That means nothing,
Speaker 1: and he would never play for that owner. He would
Speaker 1: for the Giant. Here's one thing he would do, especially
Speaker 1: if Brady was done. Because it's rooted in fun logic.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's good logic, but it's fun
Speaker 1: logic why this could hypothetically happen. I do think Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick and the Giants is an organization are too smart
Speaker 1: if that meeting happened to let that get out. So
Speaker 1: even if it does happen, I'm still feeling confident it
Speaker 1: would not be reported, at least not before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So I will take up on the sandwich. As far
Speaker 1: as fantasies go, I find this to be credible and
Speaker 1: intriguing and I appreciate your knowledge of and reverence for
Speaker 1: NFL history that went into this. That played a big
Speaker 1: part that said, I find it unlikely and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to take you up on it. It's buttering you up. Well,
Speaker 1: I did the job. I appreciate the entertainment you gave us. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you had the top. You know, the Browns one last year. Well,
Speaker 1: the only way to top that would be to get
Speaker 1: it right. That would have meant nothing. Had I not
Speaker 1: gotten it right, no one would remembered it. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: one last year was kind of like a one in
Speaker 1: a million. So if you use them, you have like
Speaker 1: nine hundred and ninety nine thousand more years before you
Speaker 1: get the next one. So yeah, anybody, everybody's in okay
Speaker 1: West Well, as a nod to former producer t d
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, not only Briggs Braylon Edwards Brown's franchise record
Speaker 1: for receptions in a season, he also joins Randy Moss
Speaker 1: and Jerry Rice is the only players in history with
Speaker 1: twenty or more touchdown receptions in a season. Two thousand nineteen.
Speaker 1: What's Braylon Edwards? And that is the onion hanging water?
Speaker 1: What is Braylon Edwards is reception record for six d
Speaker 1: oh just touchdowns receptions. I thought, get tired. He's gotta
Speaker 1: beat it, I said. He not only breaks it, he
Speaker 1: also joins Randy Moss and Jerry Rice or more. He
Speaker 1: has to get twenty or more touchdowns. Yes, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: take you up. I will take you. I love it,
Speaker 1: I'll take you. I'll take you up on it. The
Speaker 1: one thing that Beckham people don't really mention. Everybody gets
Speaker 1: caught up with his antics and his charisma and his
Speaker 1: amazing ability. He gets hurt a lot. So I don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play sixteen games, and you absolutely need
Speaker 1: to play, you know, at least fifteen games to do
Speaker 1: that type of damage. Um, So I'll take you up
Speaker 1: on it. I think he'll play games. You just have
Speaker 1: so many good players that I could see him having
Speaker 1: a even a historic season where he didn't touchdowns. Maybe
Speaker 1: he gets eight nine hundred yards or something leads the lake.
Speaker 1: Now I know that's why I am saying I'm taking it,
Speaker 1: because you could have nineteen hundred yards, seventeen touchdowns something
Speaker 1: like that, and you'd almost be right in the spirit.
Speaker 1: But he's still lives. It's almost crazy. He's never had
Speaker 1: more than third team because he gets hurt. It's also
Speaker 1: never had Baker Mayfield thrown to um okay uh. Mine
Speaker 1: is very simple. The odds are stacked heavily against me,
Speaker 1: but let's have some fun. I'm all in on Drew
Speaker 1: Brees having at least one more great season. We've talked
Speaker 1: about it endlessly on this podcast that the MVP Award
Speaker 1: is narrative driven and this is gonna be the NFL's
Speaker 1: last chance to give an MVP to a guy the most.
Speaker 1: You want to look, look at the greatest players of
Speaker 1: all time that have never won m VP. Drew Brees
Speaker 1: is number one on that list. For me, um so,
Speaker 1: I will say a great year, a great Saints season,
Speaker 1: and time taking off the clock for his career. It
Speaker 1: all comes together with Drew Brees winning his first NFL
Speaker 1: MVP Award. All Right, I like it. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: You get the field, which is what Hayers or whatever,
Speaker 1: right I think. I If you gave me Breeze versus
Speaker 1: the rest of the Saints, I might even take Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 1: Definitely taken wide receivers never win MP. We almost said
Speaker 1: it's like the fiduciary responsibility to take that one, you
Speaker 1: are out on a limb, and I appreciate it. I mean,
Speaker 1: so there's a place in the desert that right now
Speaker 1: has Breeze ranked fourth in the odds to win it. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a I don't think it would
Speaker 1: be just some shack in the desert. I just think
Speaker 1: it is narrative driven. And if he has the kind
Speaker 1: of season needed last year, it's almost like they hand
Speaker 1: these things off. And I know I've said this before,
Speaker 1: but you just give Mahomes Offensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: and this time you give it to Breeze. We'll take you.
Speaker 1: Where is the m v P award that wasn't earned
Speaker 1: in the last But the example. I also say that
Speaker 1: Drew Brees has had seasons where he's he's played it.
Speaker 1: He's played in an MVP level every year. I think
Speaker 1: that it's not crazy. I had his greatest years. There's
Speaker 1: been store season. There's only one season where he had
Speaker 1: a strong case for it and he didn't get it,
Speaker 1: and that was two thousands. I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: you're saying like you know that that Jimmy g or
Speaker 1: Jared goffscin gonna be p But I think the field
Speaker 1: is a very good bed in this, so I'll take
Speaker 1: you up. There's if you with a fifty three man roster,
Speaker 1: there's you know, one thousand six nineties players. I'm picking
Speaker 1: one of them, right, I would, but you but you
Speaker 1: have to acknowledge you're picking someone that is in the
Speaker 1: suicide not to take at least somebody in the milk.
Speaker 1: All right, I like your onion hanger, gives you something
Speaker 1: to for during the season, gives you rooting it. I
Speaker 1: will take you up. Nice work, but I'm taking I'm
Speaker 1: taking the field. As Greg said, it's my fiduciary respected.
Speaker 1: I mean, especially if Taysom Hills. So I got kids
Speaker 1: out here, all right, Greg, close us out. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say that the patriots is nine season run of playoff
Speaker 1: buys comes to an end this year. They do not
Speaker 1: earn a bye into the playoffs. This is more like
Speaker 1: a personal onion hanger. But you already have one in
Speaker 1: the bank as well. Wait, this is an onion hanger.
Speaker 1: I don't know they've done it nine straight times. Definitely
Speaker 1: taking you on it, um because I just wanted to happen,
Speaker 1: and it's certainly possible. They just barely got it this
Speaker 1: past season just barely got it many times. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: certain it's gonna flip. And there's a lot of good
Speaker 1: teams in the a f C. Or it's top heavy,
Speaker 1: but the good teams in the conference are gonna make noise.
Speaker 1: And I'm I also believe it will end this year.
Speaker 1: I wanted. My issue would be that Kansas City, you
Speaker 1: are taking me or you're not? He is I, well, no,
Speaker 1: I agree with you that they're all right. So I'll
Speaker 1: lock in Kansas City from one of the two buys.
Speaker 1: That removes obviously anyone else in the a f C West.
Speaker 1: I'm not buying anyone from the a f C South
Speaker 1: as a buy team. I'm obviously not buying anyone from
Speaker 1: the a f C East as a buy team. So
Speaker 1: it's got to be and I I just don't believe
Speaker 1: that that's gonna happen, Like I just don't. I see
Speaker 1: those teams is is each chipping a win or two
Speaker 1: away from themselves, and New England I think has a
Speaker 1: better shot than a year ago to one of the
Speaker 1: easiest schedules in the league on paper, the sneaky tough one.
Speaker 1: I am not going to take you because because of
Speaker 1: history because of the fact that they hold a distinct
Speaker 1: coaching advantage over anyone else in the conference, over Kansas City,
Speaker 1: other than Kansas City. Are I think that you think
Speaker 1: the Patriots will get a buy Yes, I am sorry,
Speaker 1: whatever that whatever that is. I um I echo all
Speaker 1: of marks rastional whatever that is. And his conclusion, Um,
Speaker 1: you guys forgot about the Texans. No, we did not.
Speaker 1: I forgot about them last year. Tell me one thing
Speaker 1: they do better the New England uh win a bye
Speaker 1: in two thousand nine teams, Well, other than your they
Speaker 1: have your fandom. That's the only thing they have. The Patriots.
Speaker 1: If they had just held on against the Eagles right
Speaker 1: and week sixteen last year, then they would have then
Speaker 1: they would have had a charging hard Or had they
Speaker 1: held on against New England in week one or Tennessee
Speaker 1: in week two or the Giants in week three and
Speaker 1: then there was what ten straight wins after that? Or
Speaker 1: how about hold on against the Colts when you got
Speaker 1: smacked twenty one seven in the playoffs and you were
Speaker 1: revealed for what you are. I mean, I get the
Speaker 1: feeling you guys don't like the Texas text. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just not gonna I'm not showering them with a fine glory,
Speaker 1: and Glecton's fans can't complain. We've spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time in the old Texans stockyard this month. Text. That's one.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling the Steelers could bang us on
Speaker 1: this one. Mark they could, but you know fine, we'll
Speaker 1: see all right, that's it, good stuff. Go get melanch
Speaker 1: dot Org Nick Fortier. We're going to London. It's the weekend.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's there to be complained about? West West
Speaker 1: is going to be on the big Green egg this
Speaker 1: weekend doing this thing Labor Day weekend. We are back
Speaker 1: on our regular season schedule next week, so that means Tuesday.
Speaker 1: They're late Thursday night, which goes up after Thursday Night football,
Speaker 1: so it's really Friday morning, and then our Sunday shows
Speaker 1: we're often rolling. Well, one more announcement. The Sunday Show
Speaker 1: will be streaming this season. That's right, if you want
Speaker 1: to watch us live live what we'll be streaming the show. Um,
Speaker 1: how about a little bugle, Ricky, this little bugle, that's
Speaker 1: pretty cool? Where this so the Sunday Night flagship show
Speaker 1: where we go over every game. You'll be able to
Speaker 1: watch that if you so desire and it will be
Speaker 1: available the next day, the same as our Thursday preview
Speaker 1: shows will now be available to be viewed as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you like looking at us, get ready,
Speaker 1: it's a true it's a very small segment of our audience,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. Stand hands as signing off
Speaker 1: for a quiet storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss Recality
Speaker 1: behind Glass until Tuesday m. S.