1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky and Rhett. 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 3: Back with you boys. How are we doing? 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: I did not get the memo on the matching shirt. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: Once again, I've come up a little short. I apologize 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: to you both, but Bucket's good to see you. 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 3: Man. How are you doing, Man, I'm good. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 4: I was just trying to be a lot. I saw 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 4: you guys jump over with your your blues. I was like, well, 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 4: I guess I need to be compliant. 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Like the Eagles just singing the blues today. Baby. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know what. Nice transition. 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: Nice transition, right, because it is time for the Monday 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 2: night recap. Look, we can start at the end, right 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: you want to jump in here, I'll let you do it. 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: But this, you know, we'll get to the to the 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 2: first three quarters of. 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: This ball game. But really the end of the game. 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: Drew Locke, the Seattle Seahawks that drive ninety two. 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: Yards, I think that's where we got to start. 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, And I think a Buck had a 22 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 5: terrific tweet last night following you know it had been 23 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 5: around Drew Locke. I love to get your perspective on 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 5: the journey that he's had over the course of the 25 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 5: last few years. Obviously was a part of the Russell 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 5: Wilson trade that brought him to Seattle from Denver, where 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 5: he did have a stint as the guy in Denver. 28 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 5: Didn't quite work out for whatever reason. You know, the 29 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 5: Broncos weren't a great team over the course of those 30 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 5: few years there. But here's the thing that I keep 31 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 5: coming back to. I mean, the dude had tools, Like 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 5: we knew it all along, Like even you know, even 33 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 5: in the draft process, he knew this dude could throw 34 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 5: the heck out of the football. And it was a 35 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 5: matter of you know, putting it all together, putting it 36 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 5: all together, figuring out, you know, how to find the 37 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 5: right play caller, the right playmakers. And man, you got 38 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 5: all of that here in Seattle. And I love that 39 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 5: he improved a little bit after getting that second opportunity 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 5: to start this week right. 41 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: Didn't go as well as you would. 42 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 5: Have liked that first opportunity this year in Seattle, but 43 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 5: comes back and this week. Man, I just I love 44 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 5: these redemption stories. And for whatever reason, it feel like 45 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 5: Seattle is the home to all the NFL's reclamation projects 46 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 5: at quarterback right now, right, it was Geno Smith first 47 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 5: and now Drew Locke. 48 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: I love these stories. 49 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 5: It was a great interview by Lisa Salters kind of 50 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 5: digging into the emotions that Drew Lock was feeling. I 51 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 5: think we love those stories about the NFL. And yeah, 52 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 5: I mean like when given the opportunity, he took his 53 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 5: opportunity to grow right and then using that growth found 54 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 5: a way to execute using the tools that we've always 55 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 5: known he's had buck Yeah, not rid. 56 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: I think it's a fascinating story, and I think the 57 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks might be onto something at the quarterback position 58 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: when it comes to their reclamation projects. First the success 59 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: they had with Geno Smith, then you look at the 60 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 4: growth that Drew Locke has experienced. That might be the 61 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: secret sauce with them going forward, because maybe you're able 62 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: to take talented quarterbacks on the cheap who didn't succeed 63 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: in their first environment, but you bring them in there 64 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: and you're able to kind of get a bargain player. 65 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 3: That has a lot of upside for Drew Lock. 66 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: For me, like, look, this is first know like having 67 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: met the kid when he was seventeen, he was a 68 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: two sport player, great basketball player in high school, so 69 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: he hadn't really fully gone. 70 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: All the way in at quarterback. 71 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: And to watch him continue to develop through the ups 72 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: and downs, and to talk to him in the preseason, 73 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: and he talked about his life being settled. He talked 74 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: about being newly married and having a kid on the way, 75 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: and he had just maturity about him. I think that 76 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: postgame interview allowed us to see all of the growth 77 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: that he's experienced. And when you kind of take care 78 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: of business off the field, naturally, the next progression is 79 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: to take care of business on the field, and I 80 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 4: think we're beginning to see that from juw Lock. 81 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. I went back and looked through the notes. 82 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: Guys, guy coming out of the draft, he was my 83 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: twenty fifth player. He was the forty second pick. Buck 84 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: mentioned that he was a big time hoop star, and 85 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: the first note that I have here is there are 86 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: big time throws. He can really drive the ball. You know, 87 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: the issues came where he forced the ball. He fell 88 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: off throws. Like mechanically, footwork wise, he was just a 89 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: little bit sloppy. So the grade that I gave him 90 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: and Buck you'll be familiar with this, I gave him 91 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: a six ' five D. The D stands for development, 92 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: and he needed time. Of guys that come in the 93 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: league some you know you're ready, he could start right away. 94 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: I thought he would benefit from a lot of time now. 95 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: He got into the lineup relatively early in his career 96 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: there in Denver. I remember one game against the Chargers 97 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: haven't been there late in the season where he led 98 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: a comeback and they end up winning the ball game late. 99 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: He's shown I think this is like his third time 100 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: that he's had, you know, a late drive to win 101 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: a ball game. So he's shown some poison, some clutch 102 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: to his game there. So good for him getting his opportunity. 103 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: We'll see what that means for his future. He at 104 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: least opened some eyeballs that he'll get an opportunity to 105 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: be a starter in this league again at some point 106 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: in time. But I do want to flip it over 107 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: to the eagle side of things, and Buck, I'll get 108 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: this to you. The last drive of the game, I 109 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: went back and watched it and I was watching all 110 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: twenty two and early on in that drive they got 111 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: some inside pressure. I think Fletcher Cox had a pressure 112 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: Jalen Carter. I sure, I think Sweat was able to 113 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: get a little bit of pressure off the. 114 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: Edge on one of them. 115 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: But to me, this was about back foot throws, like 116 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: they aren't married up in terms of challenging receivers, and 117 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: you should not be able to uncover like they were 118 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: able to uncover in that situation. In other words, and 119 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: I think Collins were even said on the broadcast, DK 120 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: catches that slant on the run, he might score. It 121 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: might have been a seventy yard touchdown or wherever they 122 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: were on the field at that point in time, but 123 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: it was low. He went down and got it and 124 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: made a catch. And then to get one on ones 125 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: and have the ball go over your head twice, the 126 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: big one to DK Metcalf and then the touchdown to Bradbury. 127 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 2: You can speak to that as somebody who's played the 128 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: position situationally. How in the world you let somebody get 129 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: beyond you twice when they have ninety two yards to 130 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: march first score. 131 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: That didn't make any sense to me. 132 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say this because I think that last 133 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: rode kind of mask what I felt like was a 134 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 4: nice debut performance from Matt Patricia as the defensive play 135 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: call it. Matt Patricia comes over from New England. Was 136 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: just kind of like an analyst, just kind of helping. 137 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: They made the move Shonda Side. It's kind of booted 138 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: and cast in a new role. Matt Patricia takes over 139 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 4: as a play caller. So you saw more of the 140 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 4: New England Patriots stuff, more man demand. But what they 141 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 4: were doing they were playing man de man from off 142 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 4: as opposed to pressing and challenging. Now it makes sense, 143 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: Darius slays out James Bradbury becomes the new number one. 144 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 4: He's playing often. He is more of a zone corner 145 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 4: than a man corner. And what you saw on those 146 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: back to back big plays that he gave up one, 147 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: didn't backpedal, didn't challenge DK Metcalf, he runs by him. 148 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 4: He then is lined up on JSN, same situation Drew 149 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: Lock's tease and identifies the coverage is gonna be one 150 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: on one. He says, I'm throwing you the piel. I'm 151 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: gonna throw it up. Beverurd didn't backpudal. And so you 152 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 4: would think that a veteran who has been in this 153 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 4: league as long as he has would utilize some of 154 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 4: the basic fundamentals to put himself in a position to 155 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: win the down and he didn't. 156 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: Look it's poor execution. 157 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 4: But I can't fault Matt Patrician for the plan because 158 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 4: the plan allowed him to play much better defense than 159 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: we have seen of late. 160 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think if you just just look 161 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 5: at the numbers overall in this game, I mean, they 162 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 5: only give up two hundred ninety seven yards of total offense. 163 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Drew Locke really came alive, you know, 164 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 5: for sure on that last drive, but I mean only 165 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 5: threw the ball for two hundred and eight yards. They 166 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 5: kept Kenneth Walker under one hundred, although he did average 167 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 5: about four and a half a pop. 168 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Like, overall, pretty solid day for an NFL defense. 169 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 5: I think you just kind of come back to for me, 170 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 5: we expect more out of the Eagles offense. And I 171 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 5: know Jalen Hurts is, you know, battling the illness and battling, 172 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 5: you know, not practicing a bunch you know, this week 173 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 5: because of it. 174 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: But you know, when he wasn't running the football, it 175 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: just it just didn't look right. 176 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 5: And credit to Julian Love, who had a terrific game 177 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 5: obviously had the terrific interception to end the game, but 178 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 5: then also had the one that stopped the potential scoring 179 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 5: opportunity that Jalen threw deep into the end zone, but 180 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 5: it was a little bit underthrown, allowed Love to go 181 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 5: up and make a play on it and stop scoring 182 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 5: opportunity there. I just I've come to expect a little 183 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 5: bit more, you know, out of this Philly defense, all right, 184 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 5: rather this Philly offense, you know, I mean, and if 185 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 5: your defense gives up, you know, twenty points. You got 186 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 5: to feel like this offense, with the talent that it 187 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 5: has dj is it should be capable of finding. 188 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: A way to win. 189 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 190 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: And I think also one of the other takeaways is 191 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: if you're Shane Steichen and you're making your case for 192 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: Coach of the Year with the job you're doing with 193 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts, maybe sneak some of these Philly games 194 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: without you into that resume taitan As you're trying to 195 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: push for that for that for that title, because he 196 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: is a phenomenal football coach, and I think you've seen it, 197 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: not only with what he's done in Indianapolis. 198 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 3: You see the void there that he left in Philadelphia. 199 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: This does not look like, you know the same offense 200 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: that we saw last year, which. 201 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: Is easily real, quick, go ahead. 202 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 4: I think I think one thing that is always concerning, 203 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 4: or is always a temptation when you pay the quarterback 204 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: the amount of money they pay. Sometimes you have a 205 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: tendency to want to validate why you paid him what 206 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: you paid him. And so this a different style of 207 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: office than what made the Eagles successful last year. In 208 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: early this year with Jalen Hurts, they were running the 209 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 4: football more. They were committed to being a grinded out 210 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 4: football team. And I think sometimes some of the chirping 211 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 4: from outside Aj Brown, maybe DeVante Smith asking for more 212 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 4: opportunities in the passing game, I think they've lost their way. 213 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: When the Eagles get back to running the football, they 214 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 4: can dominate teams. It's just that they are not in 215 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: love with trying to run the football. And so I 216 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: just wonder how many more losses will they take before 217 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 4: Nick Sirianti says, hey, guys, let's go back to running 218 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: the football because that's how we're built to play. 219 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I thought they did a decent job 220 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: of running it. 221 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: When you when you factor Jalen into the running game, 222 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: this particular game. I meant, you know, Swift got loose 223 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: a little bit. Game Boll was solid, but they couldn't. 224 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: They're not just they're not scoring points. I mean, that's 225 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: that's the thing, Like what you'd expect from this offense. 226 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: It's not happening. By the way, if you're listening to us, 227 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: this won't make any sense to you. But if you're 228 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: watching us, I just want to let you know Rhett 229 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: is in good health. It's maybe a little lack of 230 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 2: lighting that's why he looks green today, but he is healthy. 231 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: Is not a concern. You do not need to add 232 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: him to the prayer chain just yet. 233 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: Crazy looks green. 234 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 3: He looks green today. What is going on here? He 235 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: look Mayan? 236 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 4: He does look great on Mayan. I mean maybe it's 237 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: the TV, not the monitor that we have, but they 238 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: do look great. 239 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: Reht look great. All right, I'll move the topic here. 240 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: M VP odds it is brock Perty at the very 241 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: top of the list, followed by Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, 242 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: Josh Allen, and Christian McCaffrey. So if we're going to 243 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: pick an m v P, can I just I want 244 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: to give it to you. Reht with this t sure. 245 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: Do you ever remember a year when a quarterback was 246 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: talked about for the m v P and we, uh, 247 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: we were reserved in giving it to him because of 248 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: the talent around him. Like I'm trying to remember, Like 249 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: I don't remember when Patrick Mahomes was up for an 250 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: MVP S and I don't know he to throw to 251 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey, Like, let's I mean, I 252 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: don't know about that. We've never done that before. So 253 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: why is everybody twisting their contorting, trying to figure out 254 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: ways not to say brock Perty's the MVP. 255 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: Is what I'm getting at. 256 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: Well, they haven't gone they haven't gone back and watched 257 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: the throws that party has made this year. 258 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: And look, for me, I think that Lamar Jackson is 259 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 5: is kind of neck and neck with what brought Perty 260 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 5: has done. 261 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: And I'll get to Lamar in a second. 262 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: But Purdy paints it everywhere, man, Like his twenty to 263 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 5: thirty yard down the field, layered throw over the middle. 264 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: It's like it's majestic. 265 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 5: It's like if you're ever in like a surf shop 266 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 5: and they've got those those videos on loop on those TVs. 267 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 5: It's like the surfer that hits that perfectly cresting wave 268 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 5: through the tunnel, like that's that ball looks like floating 269 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 5: over the second level right into the arms of a 270 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 5: of a forty nine ers receiver running in stride. 271 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: It's it's just a thing of beauty. 272 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 5: I mean, like he does that, and then like he'll 273 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 5: hit those quarter routes, those deep best. I mean, it's 274 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 5: it's just I don't know how you look at that, 275 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 5: how you watch those games, you see him getting pressured 276 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 5: taking hits and still delivering strikes on the money, you know, 277 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 5: to Kittle and Sam and I get it, it's a 278 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 5: they've got a terrific system, They've got terrific plays, but 279 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 5: it doesn't work if he's not making these money. 280 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: Throws that he's making here, and. 281 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 5: They're not easy layups, like these are high difficult, high 282 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 5: degree of difficulty throws, and he is just absolutely painted 283 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 5: right down the strike zone. It's so much fun to 284 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 5: sit and watch, especially like from the end zone copy. 285 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 5: It's just like to watch the trajectory of that ball 286 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 5: and just to I mean, it's it's beautiful. And then 287 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 5: I'll say the thing about Lamar Jackson though, that kind 288 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 5: of gives him, you know, some real credence here is 289 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 5: the pizaz like he's obviously got the electricity when he 290 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 5: can make some of those same throws, but do it 291 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 5: by you know, shedding a defender that's rushing, by dipping 292 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 5: under one spinning. 293 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: Out of a tackle. And I will I'll tell you this. 294 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: I'd love to get you know, Bucky and DJ. 295 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 5: I'd love to get your thoughts on this too with Lamar, 296 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 5: and then you guys can obviously come back to Purty too, 297 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 5: because I do think this is a two man race here. 298 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 5: He is hitting those corners, those deep sale routes, those outs, 299 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 5: those throws outside the numbers, I think more than we've 300 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 5: ever seen in his career, Like in some of those 301 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 5: deep throws down the sideline too, the stuff that's not 302 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 5: in the middle of the field where we saw it 303 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: so oftentimes early in his career, Buckie, I feel like 304 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 5: he's doing that even more than we've seen in a 305 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: years past. 306 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is a fascinating case study for 307 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: both quarterbacks. In the MVP discussion brought Pridy and Lamar 308 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 4: Jackson respectively, because I think the biggest thing surrounding both 309 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: of their candidacies is how we perceive them to be 310 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: coming into the draft. So many of us like that 311 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 4: kind of du what we do when we talk about 312 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: analyzing draft prospects and then the outside world where we 313 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: have this casual draft subculture where we talk about what 314 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: prospects are going to be at the next level. We 315 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: can get past what those grades were when those guys. 316 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: Were in college. 317 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: And so you talk about Lamar Jackson, who many didn't 318 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 4: think would be a franchise quarterback because stylistically he was 319 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 4: different than traditional quarterback and it's hard to kind of 320 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 4: like give him credit for being a little different than 321 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: we thought he would be at the next level. And 322 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 4: so because some of us are so married to our grades, 323 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: we kind of want him to come back to how 324 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: we viewed him prior to entering the league. And I 325 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 4: think a lot of it really falls on Brock Purty too, 326 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: because Brock Purity was taken in the seventh round, the 327 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: last big mister irrelevant. How can he be a franchise quarterback. 328 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: That's why we're hearing these outside conversations game manager versus 329 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: game changer, which I would say is a take on 330 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: our truck versus trailers. You can't figure out how to 331 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: properly categorize brock purity because yes, the stuff around him 332 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: is great, but he doesn't appear to be pulling it. 333 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: But then if that was the case when other quarterbacks 334 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 4: were running that offense, they would have had six running 335 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: like brocken not the case, right, So we need to 336 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: give him his due for being look a perfect fit 337 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: in that office. And people don't like to talk about 338 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 4: system quarterbacks or whatever, but the best players thrive in 339 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: the systems that they play in, and that is what 340 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: brod Purdy does. So he should be the MVP based 341 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 4: on how will he's performed and how that office looks 342 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 4: when he's under center. 343 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll the wrap up the topic here. I do 344 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: I think that brock Purty should be the MVP. I'm 345 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: glad you mentioned Lamar Jackson. Christian McCaffrey's going to get 346 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: a lot of love for the season that he's had. 347 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill, you know, even having missed a game, is 348 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: still going to get a chance to run down two 349 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: thousand yards or to get close to it. 350 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: Good candidates. 351 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: To me, brock Purty's the winner and Lamar Jackson should 352 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: be the runner up because think about this one stat 353 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: here eighteen drop passes by Ravens receivers this year eighteen. 354 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: If you catch some of those balls, I know the 355 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh game specifically, that's at least one more win in 356 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: your column. Now we're talking about the Ravens as the 357 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: best team and not only their conference but in football, 358 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: and he's the quarterback of the best team. I think 359 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: that would have changed the narrative a little bit around that, 360 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: and you have even some more love for Lamar Jackson. 361 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: Nothing you can do about it. 362 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: When you put the ball right on guys, they don't 363 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: catch it. 364 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: It is what it is. 365 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: But I think those are the two guys as we 366 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: come down the stretch here, and the great thing is 367 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: we get to see him play each other. So that'll 368 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: be fascinating to see what that looks like when they're 369 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: sharing the same field. 370 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: All right, let's take a quick break. 371 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: When we come back, we are going to jump into 372 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: the rookie draft. Do this each and every week. We'll 373 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: see where we're at. I think Bucky had a good week. 374 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: We'll get to that right after this. The Holiday Classic 375 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: is back on NFL Network this Christmas Eve. Watch a 376 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: special Sunday night of prime time football as the Patriots 377 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: and the Broncos light up the night. The NFL Holiday 378 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: Class at Christmas Eve live at eight pm Eastern only 379 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: on NFL Network and streaming on NFL Plus. 380 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to this rookie draft. Let's see. 381 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: Let's see what happened last week. Buck has been on 382 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: a tear. 383 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: He picks up six points, so he gets two wins 384 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: the running back and the receiver position, with Jamiir Gibbs 385 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: and with Jordan Addison both having huge games, Arett solid 386 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: second place there in each category with Levis a Chan 387 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: and Nikua and then I just got three points off 388 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell leading a sixty three point barrage against the 389 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: Chargers and nothing with Bijon and Ze Flowers there. So 390 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: Bucky has scored twenty three of the possible forty eight 391 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: points the last four weeks. 392 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 3: He is right back in it. 393 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: He's in second place, he's overtaken rhet he's nipping at 394 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: my heels. So we are. We're in the contest here, guys. 395 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: But before we get to this week's draft, I want 396 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 2: to get into this discussion about one of the guys 397 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: that gets picked every week. He's usually been one of 398 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: either the first or second pick and coming off his 399 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: worst game of the year and playing for I think 400 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 2: one of the more disappointing offenses in the NFL. That's 401 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: Bijon Robinson and the Atlanta Falcons. And before we get 402 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: into what we think is wrong with this group, let's 403 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: hear from head coach Arthur Smith on his thoughts. 404 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 6: Not where we want to be and we've lost some 405 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 6: close games, but it's not over, and we will die 406 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 6: trying to make sure we get this right and just 407 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 6: go win this game and unlet's see what happens. 408 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 2: Well, anytime death comes into play when you're talking about 409 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: the football, it's probably not a great thing. 410 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: Buck. 411 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: When you look at this team offensively, they just made 412 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 2: another quarterback switch. Looks like Heineke's going to start this week. 413 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: It's been kind of a balance around situation at that position. 414 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: Are you going to are we looking at this and 415 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: saying it's just simply they stink at quarterback or what 416 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: are the other issues with this offense? There's way too 417 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: many other good players for them to be this bad. 418 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the way too many good players for them to 419 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: be this bad. 420 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 4: But DJ, it's hard when you have to work around 421 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 4: a quarterback who has limitations, if provision, from getting to 422 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 4: all the weapons that you have. And yeah, we can 423 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: throw bubble screens and give the ball to the running backs, 424 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 4: but your quarterback is the biggest driving forward in terms 425 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 4: of what you're able to do offensively. And because they 426 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: have it, they don't have a high level quarterback in 427 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 4: Desmond Ritter or Tyler Heineke at quarterback, they're not able 428 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 4: to really get to the back pages of the playbook. 429 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 4: And so until they fixed a quarterback position, we really 430 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: don't know what the potential of this offense could be. 431 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 4: And I know Arthur Smith has been a good play call. 432 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 4: It's a good play call in Tennessee. He's shoone flash 433 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 4: and being a good play call at Atlanta, But I 434 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 4: think the quarterback issue has prevented him from fully getting 435 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 4: into his bag as a play caller. 436 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I would like to think that too, right. 437 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 5: I mean, because you look at Bijon Robinson, Drake London, 438 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 5: Pyle Pitts fifteen total touches for less than seventy five 439 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 5: total yards. Tyler Aljier had more touches than Bijon London 440 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 5: in Pits. I'm buying now Tyler l Jee is a 441 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 5: good player, like he played well last year, and that's fine. 442 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: But I think so if we're not going to. 443 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: Use Bijeon that way, that why did you spend the 444 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: top ten pick on it? 445 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: I guess is part of the issue. 446 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 5: And when you go back and look at it, I mean, 447 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 5: be shot had a ten yard ripped a ten yard 448 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 5: run first carry of the gate, and you're like, all right, 449 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: off and running well. His next like four carries went 450 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 5: for a loss and then fumbled on either his last 451 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 5: carrier or second to last carry, and so you're just 452 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 5: like calie, man, it's hard to get that thing off 453 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 5: the ground. They're getting pushed back dj that offensive line, 454 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 5: which is almost entirely if I'm not mistaken, homegrown draft 455 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 5: picks from Atlanta. They can't get any push and so 456 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 5: I think it's it's hard sometimes to keep feeding that 457 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 5: to Bijeon when when you know he wants to break 458 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 5: one loose and you're having to exercise all that patience, 459 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 5: it's just not happening. I think it's a collective issue, 460 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 5: not just playmaker, not just quarterback. But I think you 461 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 5: got to look at the offensive line too. 462 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no room. I went back and watched all 463 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: those runs for the last two weeks, and there's I mean, 464 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: I'm sitting there watching this going I don't know what 465 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: you want him to do. I mean, you can see 466 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: him getting frustrated, and sometimes I was looking for it, 467 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, through the prism of okay, sometimes young backs, 468 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: even talented ones, are home run happy, right, So they're 469 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: not taking the three and fours. They're always hunting, Yeah, 470 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: they're they're hunting the forties and fifties. Yes, Saquon Barkley's 471 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: a good example of that. I didn't see that with 472 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: John Robbins. I saw, I saw guys get knocked back. 473 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: I saw just a lack of space and there's nothing 474 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: really their for him. 475 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: But you go back and look at the numbers. 476 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: Guys, last year one hundred and fifty nine yards almost 477 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty on the ground per game. This 478 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 2: year they're at one hundred and twenty six. Last year, 479 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: they aver was twenty one point five points per game. 480 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: This year they're at eighteen point four points per game. 481 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting when you look at it, and 482 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 2: you can put the majority of the blame to me 483 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: on the quarterback position. They've got to get better there. 484 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: That's priority number one. They've got to solve that position 485 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: going into next year. That's obvious, right, But they've also 486 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: got to put together, you know, personnel that matches kind 487 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: of what they're doing and be able to feature these 488 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: guys because they have real players and they've got to 489 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: have something that fits better. It just as disjointed when 490 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: you watch it doesn't really build off of each other. 491 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: You've got an offensive line that to me is more 492 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: of a finesse offensive line that you're trying to see 493 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: them knock guys off the ball, which they do not do. 494 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: They've got some issues there with the Atlanta Falcons and 495 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: Buck the other side of this, And I want to 496 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: get to this real quick before we get to the draft. 497 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: I know we got to keep going here. But when 498 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: we've talked about running backs in the past, and. 499 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: We've been doing it for a decade, we have said 500 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: we're not anti drafting a running back high in the draft, 501 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: but what we've said is, don't waste a running backs carries. 502 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: In other words, have a finished team and then be 503 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: able to drop the running back in so that all 504 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: of his carries matter. Christian McCaffrey great example, he goes 505 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: to the forty nine ers, they're a finished team. Drop 506 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: him in there. He might he's in the MVP list. 507 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: We just talked about him as a top five MVP candidate. 508 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: But it wouldn't make as much sense for Christian McCaffrey 509 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: and be on a bad football team. 510 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 511 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: Maybe they thought they were more complete than they were 512 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: when they took Bjon Robinson, but clearly right now you're 513 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: looking at a team that maybe should have gone in 514 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: another direction, even knowing that this was one of the 515 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 2: best players in the entire Yeah. 516 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, I think they obviously were full 517 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: by last year's success running the football. Remember, this team 518 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: ran the football on everybody. Tyler Years was a good player, 519 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: but Cordero Patterson was backing them up, and so you're thinking, 520 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: I'm getting an upgrade over both of those running backs behind. 521 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: An offensive line. Last year they create push. 522 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: So something has changed this year in terms of the 523 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: personality and the effectiveness and the execution upfront that has 524 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: prevented them from being that physical team that Arthur Smith envisions. 525 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 4: The other part of it is John U. Smith and 526 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 4: Kalpis and Drake London and the players that they have 527 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: outside are terrific individual talents, but for whatever reason, the scheme, 528 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 4: the compliments in the passing game don't match what they're 529 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 4: doing and the running game and the quarterback is unable 530 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 4: to elevate either aspect. 531 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 3: And so we can talk about those parts. 532 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 4: But when you have a better player, maybe a more 533 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 4: dynamic player at the position that maybe has some run 534 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 4: pass capabilities, maybe just maybe the quarterback, a new quarterback 535 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: will unlock some of the potential that the rest of 536 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: the oppis has. 537 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm going back through and looking at some 538 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: of these previous drafts. Look, they take Drake London. The 539 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: quarterback in that draft was Kenny Pickett, and the way 540 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett's kind of been up and down, you can 541 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: look at that and say, Okay, well, I don't you know, 542 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: I don't fault them for that, you know, making that 543 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: decision and bypassing Kenny Pickett. You back to twenty twenty one, 544 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 2: they took Kyle Pitts, and then you know that was 545 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: the one where they got a lot of criticism because 546 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: you had Justin Fields there, who would have been, you know, 547 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: hometown guy, but Justin Field's in a position where his 548 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: team might be moving on from him as well, so 549 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: you know whether or not they had a chance to 550 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: try and get aggressive and try and make you know, 551 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson happen, or training for some veteran being bold 552 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: and aggressive and some other you know, some other area. 553 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: I don't know what opportunities really presented themselves there. We 554 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: may never know, but I know one thing. They can't 555 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: enter next year with the group to have at that 556 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: position right now. They've got to go out and find one. 557 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: So that's going to be their charge. All right, let's 558 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: get to the rookie draft here this week, Buck, you 559 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: are up first. You've been kicking, but you're closing the 560 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 2: gap here. You're up first, fall by Rhett and then 561 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 2: I'll bat in the three hole today, So go ahead, man, 562 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 2: you're up. 563 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, this is wanted more difficult decision to do 564 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: because you've got to have a little faith that the 565 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: guy that I'm picking, CJ. Stroud, is going to be 566 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: able to come back out of concussion protocol. 567 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna take him number one. 568 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 4: Quarterbacks, the most important position on the field, need to 569 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: get a dub with c J. 570 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: Stroud leading the way. 571 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 5: Okay, so going quarterback there. I don't know what Will 572 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 5: Levis's situation is. I guess Aidan O'Connell is probably the 573 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 5: safest bet there. 574 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: You got the although Green. 575 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 5: Bay Packers defense has definitely made some quarterbacks feel better 576 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 5: about themselves in recent weeks, so Bryce Young might be 577 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: an interesting choice as they get set to welcome the 578 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 5: Packers on Christmas Eve. But I'm going to go with 579 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 5: the sure thing here, and I'm going to take Jamiir Gibbs, 580 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 5: who's been an absolute stud at the running back spot 581 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 5: for the Lions taking on the Vikings in a big 582 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 5: time matchup right there. 583 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: So give me Jimier Gibbs. 584 00:25:59,119 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 3: All right? 585 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 6: Like that? 586 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: Wow? 587 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 7: All right? 588 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: Let's see here. Where am I gonna go next? All right? 589 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go because I want a little I want 590 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: a little viewing pleasure on Thursday, the Thursday night game. 591 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: And I've got the Rams and the Saints there. Give 592 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: me Pooka and Nakua with my first one. 593 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: Oh and then I will come back. Let's see here. Oh, oh, man, 594 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 3: I gotta. 595 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't like this for you. He's stealing your anxiety 596 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: right now. 597 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, I don't. 598 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: Know that. I like my Aidan O'Connell pick at Kansas City. 599 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: Gotta say, I don't love that one, so I think I'm. 600 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 3: Gonna avoid that. 601 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 2: I'm uh, is it possible to do an entire section 602 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 2: on how disappointing the Atlanta Falcons offense has been and 603 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: then come right back and take Bjon Roberts away. 604 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah right, it is. I'm in Jon Brett. 605 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: Okay, well. 606 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 5: Man, it's uh huh yeah, I think it's I think 607 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 5: it's time to take a doorback, like I think. 608 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: Uh, I think it's just no. 609 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: Way around it. 610 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 5: I don't know what else I could do here. I 611 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 5: think there's plenty more options as the pass catchers go. So, yeah, 612 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 5: young here, Bucky's not taking one week. You didn't have to, 613 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 5: he took shrug. 614 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can wait till your next pick because 615 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 2: I don't pick again. 616 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 3: I can't go to your team. 617 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: Let's go back there taking Bryce Sean that's okay, well cool, 618 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: but go ahead, Buck, you get back to backers. 619 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: Oh I love this. 620 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 4: So now look, man, Jodan Maddison has treating me so well, 621 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 4: we got to take him again. We're gonna put him 622 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 4: in there, so we're gonna take him right off the board. 623 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: And now I have to find a running back of 624 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 4: my liking. I like what Zach Sharbonnay did, but I 625 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 4: feel like I need to go big. 626 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: Can I Can I go a chain? Can I go 627 00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 3: a change? 628 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 4: Maybe to you somehow find a way to just put 629 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 4: some points on the board and do something fantastic and 630 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 4: that that that bit role that he. 631 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 5: Has, all like, yeah, you can't like it, And then 632 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 5: it's me again, right, Yes, I'm gonna go Laporta. Sammy 633 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 5: Laporta is gonna be my pass catcher, So going heavy 634 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 5: on the lions. 635 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 3: Oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. 636 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 8: Oh wait wait wait wait wait can tightens be included? 637 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 8: Hold up, wait a minute, this is a wide receiver thing? 638 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 8: What whoa the tight end catch? 639 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: What are we doing? But we were doing this like sick? 640 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: Can we get off protest? 641 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: Come on, sorry, Bud, this is the sorry playing by 642 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: This is not new. Oh I think I take several 643 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: times to be doing Yeah, he's at last place. 644 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 7: Thought, Come on, dude, he always has something. He's like 645 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 7: Bill Belichick. He always has like whatever the rule are, 646 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 7: always to the line, kind of like what I didn't know? 647 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: You know, what what am I doing? 648 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna exercise all options available to me. 649 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: Agreed. 650 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: By the way, last week there was a tweet I 651 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: can't I cannot remember who's sent it out, but it 652 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: was when Aidan O'Connell was playing Easton stick. 653 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: Somebody said, Aiden and Easton sounds like. 654 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: Uh, like two kids that you have to go pick 655 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: up at, like daycare that have been that you the 656 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: people have been watching like. 657 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: Aiden Easton, Come on over. 658 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with Aidan O'Connell. He was good to 659 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: me last week. I'm gonna go back to him this week. 660 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: See if you can get me some more points. I 661 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: don't love the matchup against the Chiefs, but maybe we 662 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: get some garbage points late there. 663 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: You never know. I will I will roll with that one. 664 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: All right. That's it. That's gonna that's gonna do it 665 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: for today. 666 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: But don't worry. We right back tomorrow again. We've got 667 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: I Believe Stix podcast this week, So. 668 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: Not your standard five. 669 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: We'll give you a little bonus one here as we 670 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: march towards Christmas here so appreciate you guys hanging with us, 671 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: and we'll see you right back here tomorrow. 672 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: On move the sticks