WEBVTT - Gottlieb - All Ball - with Aaron Torres 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:09.440 Hey, welcome in. I'm Doug dott LEEB and you are 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:12.800 listening to All Ball, All Basketball padcast all the time. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.640 Last week a little bit different, we had Chris Beard 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.040 on the Texas Tech head coach kind of telling us 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.120 a story taking us to the progression of his career. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.560 And he's a great storyteller. We're gonna get back to 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.320 more storytelling next week. Uh. This week, I think there 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:29.479 are two big things to talk about. The first is 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:33.400 the NBA schedule dropping. And it's always interesting to me 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.519 on how um we seem. Sometimes you can be in 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.080 denial over over different things, like you know, you can 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.479 be in denial over, uh, why Duke is on national 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.479 TV in college basketball so much? Or or maybe not 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:51.240 just Duke, but Duke, Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas, Syracuse, Um, those 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.240 are the schools that that rate. That's why they're on 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:58.000 TV so much. UM and so it's it's not it 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.120 doesn't work the other way around. It's not a not 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.279 there on TV so much, that's why they rate. They rate, 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.880 that's why they're on TV so much, period, end of 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:10.759 the period stop so UM. I do think that sometimes 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.440 people people question why are the Red Sox and Yankees 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.520 always on TV because they rate. That's it. There's there's 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.479 no other reason to it that more people will watch. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.440 And when you're in television and television program which I 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.880 am not okay, I'm on the production side, but the 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.600 programming side, the only thing they care about is what 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.480 two teams can we put on TV that get the 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:39.080 most eyeballs, That makes everybody more money. And so when 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.640 you look at the NBA schedule, it's fascinating to see 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.120 the Lakers schedule and maybe more than anything, how everyone 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.040 else in the league reacts. I went through it on 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.320 my radio show, The Doug Gotlip Show is daily three 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.440 to six Eastern time UH twelve to three Pacific, Fox 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.800 sport Trader dot Com, I Heart Radio app series x 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.280 M A E three for the first two hours. You 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.880 can also down load the podcast daily. I went through 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:08.560 it and um, almost every team's website I went to wherever, 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:13.440 almost every team's Twitter handle I went to. I would say, 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.840 here the Grizzlies, here's the Memphis Grizzlies schedules, including two 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.160 games with the Lakers. Find out when Lebron James comes 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:25.440 to town. Like Lebron James is literally the biggest show 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.600 on Earth now. Um, he is in Los Angeles. He 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.600 is doing the Nike Who Labron James Nike Hoops Academy. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.120 He also had his first couple of workouts at the 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.120 Lakers practic facility. But this is also a week to 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:43.520 which week in which excuse me, uh, it was announced 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.679 he's got a Netflix show, He's got an HBO show, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:51.200 a Showtime show, a CBS show. There's other shows as well. 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.520 And I think the question for Lebron is not does 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.400 he not love basketball? I think I don't think that's close. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.360 I think he loves basketball. I don't think I know 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.120 he loves basket. But when you come to l A 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.880 and you have, you can have everything. I look at 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.880 it at last as at l A As. Have you 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.640 ever been to a really nice restaurant. I'll give an example, 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.720 restaurant called the Peninsula. There's Peninsula in New York, in 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.880 LA in Chicago. I'm sure there's others, you know worldwide. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:24.880 It's very high enching. And a dear friend of mine, 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.720 whenever he has time and it wants to have breakfast, 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.840 invites me to breakfast at the Peninsula Hotel, which is 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.440 right across the street actually from the Beverly Hills Hilton. 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:36.680 So I want may like like a block and a 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.480 half away from Beverly Hills Hilton centrally located not far 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.960 from the Fox lot Um. It's a cool spot and 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:47.240 it's kind of quiet, quaint, little outdoor area which some suns, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.800 some shade. It's great. I had breakfast there earlier this week. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.200 They actually have a buffet. But when you go to 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.520 a really good buffet, or you gonna go to bad 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:03.400 buffet um like, compare a we used to have Western 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:07.480 Citizlan and Oklahma State, or a Golden Corral or a Sizzler. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.640 Compare that buffet to a buffet at a high end place. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.320 You go to a buffet at a high end place 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.960 and they have a guy who makes incredible omelets, right 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.480 if somebody else will make you any kind of juice. 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.880 You don't just get coffee. You can get cappuccino, You 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.000 can get a latte, you can get it with almond milk, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.240 with soy milk, or you can get regular coffee, any 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:31.480 kind of tea you ef you want it, and then 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.320 you go through the actual buffet and everything is magnificent. 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.400 And what you end up doing is sometimes is you 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.560 get so much stuff because you're used to you're trained 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.680 to the whole. Like man, when we were basketball players 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.240 and we go to Las Vegas and we'd stay at 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.360 Circus Circus and we go through the buffet. You're just 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:49.960 trying to fill up with a bunch stuff because the 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.280 food wasn't that good, but you just got a bunch, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.560 so you're really full and you'd burn through it anyway, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.719 instead of just getting a great piece of avocado toasts 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.279 and having a capit chino to where you feel like 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:05.000 you're full but not full. Right, you feel really good 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.480 and you really got to enjoy that avocado toast with 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.760 the poach egged on top, just so instead you just 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:17.000 had a smorgers board of stuff and you eat, you 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.400 like it, and it's fine, but you don't really appreciate it, 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:25.520 and it it loses its it loses the quality that 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.880 you're actually getting in a place like the Peninsula Hotel 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:33.000 or you know, the top end restaurant. That's what Lebron 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.320 James was running the risk up here. Lebrons in l 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.720 a and he can do anything he wants. You know, 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.040 it's got two houses. He doesn't have to movie's redoing 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.640 his house kids are going to be in private school, 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.000 and there's lots of time in the day. You know, 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.720 you practice for you work out for two two and 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.840 a half hours a day, right, you come in, you 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.480 get your body work done, you do your weight lifting, 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.960 you do your stret your training, you know you're stretch. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.120 Everything takes an hour. Then you get an hour maybe 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:04.720 on the court, maybe a little bit longer, maybe a 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:08.159 little bit less, depending and in the off season, that's 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.080 that's pretty good. You don't need to do a ton. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.880 The most of those guys don't do a ton more So, 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.920 now you have what do you have twenty hours left 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:21.680 in your day? You sleep six to eight hours a night. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:27.520 Tonight you're working on um. Now you're working on fourteen 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:33.000 hours potentially left in your day, fourteen hours at most 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:37.120 and twelve hours maybe at least. You got twelve hours left. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:39.560 And even if you go out to dinner and you've 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.719 got to lunch and you chew up an hour, that's 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.800 a ton of time. And even if you spend time 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.040 with your family, that's a ton of time. So it's 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.280 not like this is gonna these are gonna be time suckers. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.880 To be a producer of a show, on CBS. It's 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.440 a game show. To be a producer of of, you know, 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.440 a baller's type of show. To be a producer of 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.400 the documentary, you're the one that's gonna run where it's 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:05.480 more than an athlete. These they don't individually take up time, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.440 but if you do end up having a full plate 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.200 and you lose track of that avocado toast which used 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.239 to be basketball. See he used to be in Cleveland, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:15.680 which you just throw a bunch of things on the 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.480 plate because it makes everything tastes better. Now this is 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:22.240 all high end stuff and as much as you could 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.080 do a buffet, that's not the way to really enjoy 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.840 a meal. Sit down, take your time, enjoy a meal. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.920 So I guess my only fear with Lebron is everybody 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.480 their whole life has said I want to do l 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.640 a and he has the power to do so. And 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.120 every website you go to, every Twitter handle you go to, 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.960 everyone in the NBA has fired up about the Lakers. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.480 Already a draw with Lebron, a draw come to town. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:48.080 Everyone the legal benefit from it. But what's fasting, what's 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:52.840 gonna be fascinating to me is the pace in southern 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.600 California is so much faster than anywhere else I've ever been. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.880 Maybe New York is the only other place, but l 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.720 A is the paces crazy pass it. There are other 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:07.160 time suckers, not just your kids and your wife, but travel. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.560 He's gonna live in Brentwood, and this time at the 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.480 right time of day. What is it twenty minutes to 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.720 the facility the wrong time of day? It's an hour. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:22.840 It's an hour. So I'll be faster to see though, 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:24.880 if there's just too many things on his plate in 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:28.800 year one because he's got a there's got to be 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.000 some sort of meeting of the minds between his style 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.160 and Luke Walton style. There has to be an evident 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.840 what is it? I think it's like eleven of the 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.760 first fourteen games cans playoff teams. They have the second, 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.439 they travel the second most miles Portland's the most miles there, 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.160 the second the Clippers of the third part of that 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.280 is location based, but they're flying Oliver tim Buck two. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:53.240 They're everybody's biggest game, and he's got a lot on 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.840 his plate. So am I do? I think? Do I 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.320 totally agree with Charles Barkley with the idea that Lebron 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:00.960 has gotta moved on from trying to be a great 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.160 basketball player and is simply worried about being a mogul. No, 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:05.640 but do I think he wants to be a mogile? 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:09.760 I do. And the first year of making a transition 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.960 to southern California, I've done it twice, and not even 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.040 in l A. I'm in Orange County, which is much 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:19.120 slower than Los Angeles. It's fast, it's fast, and it 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.960 takes a while too. It takes a while to play 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.200 catch up. Now he's a megastar, and I guess you 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.400 could say this has been his entire professional life, has 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.880 been going from one town car to the next, you know, 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.200 and people pulling him in a million direction, different directions. 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:36.679 But I would tell you, and most people in Los 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.800 Angeles tell you, this place is different. The speed is different, 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.320 the amount of poll is different, and it is a 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.040 you have. You have a buffet to which you can do. 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.480 You can go hiking, you can go skiing, you can 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.600 go water skiing and go surfing. You can hang at 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.720 the beach. You can go to a nice Hollywood dinner, 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.679 you go to a Malibu dinner. You can go out 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:57.319 with family and go with friends. You can go out 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.720 with dignitaries. You can go out with celebrities. You have 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.040 all these things. This is the highest and buffet you 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:09.600 can find. But you might be smarter to just have 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.559 a piece of avocado toast and a really good cup 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:15.080 of coffee. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is all ball. The 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:20.160 other part that's interesting to me with the Lakers, a 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.960 lot of people are calling out their roster rightfully, so 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:29.040 there are some pieces that are head scratchers. Um. But 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.440 I've explained in previous podcasts that this was not a 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.320 blank slate. It was not as easy as hey, it's Lebron, 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.920 let's go pick out some dream team of pieces. Guys 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:39.480 have to be free agents, so there has to be 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.040 able to be of a trade and made. In this case, 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.160 you needed guys that were willing to sign a one 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.560 year deal because they want to keep themselves flexible for 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.520 next year's free agency bonanza, as well as maintaining all 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.280 these young players. Here's the part that no one's talking 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:55.360 about we'll talk about here is it's like the Duke 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.680 basketball effect, or let's just call it the Lebron effect. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.440 As I told you to start, if you go to 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.560 anybody's Twitter handle, in the NBA, there will there will 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.920 be a mention of when the date when Lebron comes 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:10.920 to town. Because it's everybody's biggest game. It's Alabama football, 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:16.440 Kentucky Duke basketball, it's everybody's biggest game. And for all 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.079 those Lakers, the young ones that we all think can 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.480 be good players, from brand Ingram to Kyle Kuzman to 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.760 a Josh Hard to Alonzo Ball, how do those guys 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.720 play in one, real NBA games that matter, in two, 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.920 in real NBA games that matter against teams that are 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.520 loaded for bear in the past, the past couple of years. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.040 It's it's not that people, It's not like the guys 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.120 went out drinking the night before the Lakers came to town. 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.319 But it's closer to the truth than they were getting 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:42.959 in bed with their milk and cookies. Know, when le 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.280 Bronze coming to town, you're not just playing on a 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.960 team that's capable of making the playoffs in a much 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.960 more talented conference in the Eastern Conference. You're doing so 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:57.200 with Lebron James, who is everyone's biggest game. And how 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.400 the young Lakers adjust to that is as in interesting 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:04.200 is anything else things you can get away within any 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.520 NBA game. You can't get away within the big games, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.600 and as it's shaping up, most every game early on 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.640 the season is going to be a big game for 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.240 the young Lakers because they're not only trying to prove 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:19.480 to Lebron and to the staff that they can play 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:23.840 at a high level. They gotta prove themselves. And when 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.400 you don't see immediate success, and they may not because 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:31.560 it's their first year together, when you don't seek occasional success, 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.760 there is at least a possibility that you lose your 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.960 that you lose your your mojo. Um, you lose your confidence, 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.760 which is kind of your mojo. You lose your confidence, 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.960 and you lose your confidence around Lebron James. He won't 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.760 believe in you, he won't give you the ball, they 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.439 won't play it. It's gonna be a really interesting to 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.560 see how this Laker thing works out. All right, then, 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.120 let's get into the changes in college basketball. Aaron Torres 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.360 will be our guest to work for Fox Sports, written 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:02.000 for the Athletic as well as other their sites. Um, 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:07.680 I'm fascinated by the amount of immediate negativity. It's like 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:09.400 you didn't even read through all the RULD change, Like 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.600 now they still don't get it because Condoleeza Rice was 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.160 on the was on the the commission board. All right. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.200 I didn't think that the Condoleeza Rice thing made sense. 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.960 I would have liked more a you guys, but hey, 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.959 at the end of the day, if what comes out 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.880 of it is they tweaked the recruiting schedule a little bit. 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.200 They change where you're gonna go see players some whatever. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.200 Guys can come back to school even after they've been 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:41.000 drafted like that, Um, you can be wrapped by an 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.600 agent while you're still in school and he can meet 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.559 with you legally and buy your dinner and by your 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.400 parents dinner and fly them up and give them travel 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.959 just to have that dinner. Like the idea is to 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.640 cut out agents that are of ill repute. That's the 0:13:55.720 --> 0:14:00.000 idea that the legal certified agents can act like legals 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:05.000 certified ations. Do I think this makes sense? And yes? 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.200 Do I think it fixes every problem? No? Does it 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:11.160 create new problems? I can't say so as of yet. 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.240 And I also don't love that everybody's operating on an 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.560 assumption that the NBA is going to lower the age 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:18.440 limit and let guys come straight out of high school 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.800 I wasn't a good idea, then it's not a good 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:25.320 idea now. But that's what's assumed, and that's why they 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.680 created this a. If you have an elite players status, 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.200 then you could have an agent in high school. What's 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.840 an elite player? We don't know. We're not handling it. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.480 Let's pass it off to USA Basketball. Not a strong look, 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.800 but I think you understand there. My point is the 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.160 the n c A couldn't not do anything, but any 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:48.200 sort of massive wholesale change changes too much, so as 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.760 slow push towards a different sort of summer camp look, 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.680 a slow push towards a different sort of way of 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.400 viewing athletes, and how we cut out the shady oh Man. 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.920 And meanwhile a relative change in the transfer rule, which 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:10.160 I don't like but does create player movement. Also, there's 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.600 the players can come back and they must be on 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.080 full scholarship, but only if they stay two years in college. 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.600 I like that. The idea of encouraging guys to stay 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.800 in school more or welcome them back even when they 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.320 try and go out and get a job in the 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.440 NBA are all good things. As far as the spring 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.880 and summer calendar, I don't love it. I don't know 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.520 why there is a need for regulation. I think you 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.200 just do one open month, you know, And I think 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.920 assistant coaches can be on the road all year. That's 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.640 what their job is, to go out whenever. You know, 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.480 if you're around a kid too much, the kid's gonna 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.960 get creeped out by anyway. But this is the path 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.600 they've chosen to go by. And I can't think of 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:53.640 anyone rule which is so terrible, so awful, that it's 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.040 going to completely change the support. I do think that 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.360 takes place if guys come straight out of high school 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.480 and go to pros. The reason is all of these 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:08.000 basketball coaches, all these executives and in in at the 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.120 n c A, who will tell you, hey, listen, the 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.320 college baseball model. You know what happens. If you have 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.080 the college baseball model and basketball, you have college baseball 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:21.360 fun sport, grade sport, well coached, completely irrelevant. In the 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:29.360 National Sports Blast, let's welcome to Aaron Torres, who um 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.760 my colleague at Fox Sports Radio. Check out his radio 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.440 show eight to ten Pacific time, Saturday nights on Fox 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.320 Sports Radio. You can also read his work in The 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.040 Athletic Fall on Twitter at Aaron I think it's Aaron 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:44.680 underscore torres At. Aaron underscore Torres, a college football college 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.560 basketball writer, wrote something called One and Fun just does 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.920 a really good job. Plus he loves to cover the 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:55.080 recruiting scene. And Aaron, I'm wondering your initial reaction when 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.400 you saw what the n has decided to do with 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.720 some of their new rules. Yeah, I think you know, Doug, 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.680 My reaction was, frankly, very similar to I think everybody 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.560 else here. It's the middle of the week, middle of 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.919 the day, everybody's running around. You see these big, bold headlines. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:14.640 Players can now have agents, Undrafted players can return to college, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.120 and you think, oh my god, this is a landmark day. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:21.159 Everything has changed. Everything we knew no longer exists. And 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.240 then you read the fine friend and you see that 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.760 some of the rules really, frankly aren't all that they 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.240 are kind of made out to be in that big headline. Uh, 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.359 you know, look, I do think there was some some 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.480 important change as far as the recruiting calendar. I know 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:38.160 that not everybody in college basketball is necessarily happy with it, 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.399 and a lot of change, you know, an important change 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:44.000 was made as far as kind of the enforcement process 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.280 at the n C a level as far as the 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.080 way that investigations are going to be done and what 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.720 kind of information can be used. So it was an 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.239 interesting day Wednesday. But I think I speak for a 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.760 lot of people who cover college basketball when I say 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.679 that the initial headlines, Uh, sir, they didn't live up 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.359 to what you expected once you dug into him a 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.760 little bit. You know, it's funny you mentioned the enforcement. 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:09.679 They're outsourcing their enforcement, right, which is which is a 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.560 great idea. Like of all the things people have crushed 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.400 them for, the fact that they have a handed enforcement 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.919 is something that leaves you open um, open to criticism. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.760 And look what's happened with the NFL with Roger Goodell 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.320 being judge jury executioner, right, and if you appeal you 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.560 you appeal to Roger Goodell. Like somehow this has gotten 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.600 lost The people haven't pointed out even Mike de course 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.520 you wrote a nice article. He didn't even point out 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.720 that they are outsourcing most of the enforcement procedure and 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.879 most of and some of the investigation part of enforcement. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.680 I think it's a really good thing, don't do you Yeah, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:44.520 I do. And you know, look, at the end of 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.600 the day, I think what what people have to remember 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.400 is that all of these rules, whether you like him, 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.080 whether you don't like them, whether you agree with the 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.160 n c A whether you don't, they were all put 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.040 in place because the n c A felt like there 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.800 were things that they needed to get under control. Uh, 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.320 after everything that came out with the FBI process that 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.240 you know last fall, and so say what you want 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.480 about the other stuff. This is a direct reflection of 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.320 what happened with the FBI, where you have all of 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.639 these schools in all of this trouble. But it's frankly 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.440 stuff that the n c A in the past, as 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.639 of previous to Wednesday, they couldn't punished the school for us. 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.720 So if you have an FBI wire tap or you 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:28.120 have a you know, an FBI information that nobody else 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.440 has access to, there's no way that the n c 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.320 A is going to be able to get access to 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.200 that information. And as of a week ago, we were 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:39.480 asking can Arizona really be punished? Can usc really be punished? 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.560 What about Louisville with Brian Bowen. Well, now all of 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:47.160 that information is usable under the new n c A jurisdictions, 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.120 So will it curb cheating? I mean, I think all 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.560 of us that cover the sport know that if a 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:54.520 guy wants to bend the rules or break the rules, 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.560 he's gonna do it. But in theory, um, you know, 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.920 it makes it a little bit harder. It makes it 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.760 a little bit easier for the n c A to 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.320 actually hand down punishment if you are caught. And oh, 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.639 by the way, some of the new um you know, 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:11.160 the new verbiage and in the n c A handbook 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.480 about what can be punishable and how long the punishment 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.560 can be has changed as well. So I think from 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:19.399 that perspective, and I agree with you, Doug, I think 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.920 it's gotten a lot lost in the shuffle. Is this 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:26.040 idea that that the punishment process has changed, and again 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.240 this is a reflection of what happened with the FBI, 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.520 And in theory it should go it in theory, it uh. 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.200 In theory, it should help Aaron Torres joining us. Okay, 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:39.639 what about there is this growing assumption that the NBA 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:43.080 is gonna change back to allowing players to go to 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.640 the NBA Draft straight out of high school. That that's 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.240 the big thing that I think people are are misreading 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.919 or not reading the fine print is the the elite 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.480 prospect thing through people for a loop. What's an elite prospect? 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:58.440 You know that's to be determined, Um, but it's if 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.199 you read it, it's like, hey, look, if and when 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.800 the NBA goes back to you can come straight out 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:07.440 of high school, then the elite prospects can be represented 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:09.080 by an agent, and then if you decide to go 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.600 to college, well then you have to cease to have 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:16.440 a relationship or a working relationship with with that agent. Um. 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:20.560 What's your level of belief that they are in fact 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:24.200 gonna do away with the one and done? Yeah, something 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:27.400