WEBVTT - Rick Wilson & Ed Fitzgerald 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.719 today's best minds. And Jadie Vance is now the most 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:15.080 unpopular vice president in the history of Poland that's pretty fun. 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.720 We have such a great joke for you today. The 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:22.640 Lincoln Project with Wilson joins us to discuss Trump blocking 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:27.600 the straits of Ramoose and other strategic blunders. Then we'll 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.640 talk to Ed Fitzgerald about his run for Ohio's seventh 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:36.120 district against Congressman Max Miller. But first the news, Smiley. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.760 We are seeing inflation, we are seeing gas prices close 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.240 it and mister Trump is going to be here to 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:43.800 the rescue. 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:44.879 Oh wait, no, he's not here. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.600 He is talking to the money honey, Maria Bartiromo, and 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:50.959 she looks horrified as he says this. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:56.320 Oh I love a clip. Let's go. So, do you 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.800 believe the price of oil and gas will be lower 0:00:59.000 --> 0:00:59.920 before the Mitrom election? 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.080 Yes, I hope. So. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.560 I mean I think it could be all the same, 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.760 or maybe a little bit higher, but I think it 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:13.600 won't be longer. All she wants is for him to 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.440 say it'll be a lower. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.360 It's so funny because her eyes just bug out of 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.120 her head, like, no, you fuck an idiot. 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.199 I was trying to let you eye. If you didn't, if. 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.440 You have a little time, go on the internet and 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.840 search that interview with Maria Bartaroma, because it's like a 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:36.920 masterclass in him cycling through various anxieties. At one point 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.880 he's like, you know, the Iranians had nukes. We knew 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:42.800 they were going to blow us all up. He goes 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:44.520 into a hole like they were going to blow us 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:48.440 all up thing, which is something. It's clear his levels 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:53.480 of desperation, of anxiety, of you know, it just isn't 0:01:53.520 --> 0:02:00.360 a truly insane bit of everything bad. It's absolutely worth 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:01.040 listening to. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.880 I'm gonna admit I was wrong about something on this podcast. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.440 What we never learned from our mistakes here at Fast 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:08.760 Politics Continue. 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.000 Would I see politicians like Jbi Raskin say Trump needs 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.320 a head example, I'm like, I hate this kind of performative. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:16.160 It's like distractions. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.200 When I watched that interview, I was like, all right, up, 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.600 bub tea brasket here, this guy's fucking gets saved. 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.320 Well, you know, he's seventy nine years old, and like 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.120 that is old. I mean, you know, there are some 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.720 seventy nine year olds who are sharp as attack. My 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.200 man is not one of them. 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:34.920 Yeah, okay, so let's talk about some real ugliness in 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.480 our congress. So, as we learned this weekend that Eric 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:42.160 Swalwell has been having a few affairs here and there, 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:43.040 it seems. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:47.880 It best he's a fuse. Yeah. Well, at worst it's 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.160 something much darker, right. 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.600 Yes, So it looks like in Congress the compromise is 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.120 that there's been a lot of people whose behavior has 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.520 not been so good. We've had, you know, other Congress 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.359 people who have bet ethics. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:06.160 Tony Gonzalez who's sexually harassed scatpers and one of them 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.080 set themselves on fire and killed theirselves. I'm gonna need 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.639 to step on the soapbox here for a minute about Beric. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.560 You know, Eric swahe and I have been friendly over 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:18.600 the last couple of years. I did not know that 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.119 he was capable of this kind of thing. And I'm 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.720 telling you this all has to be investigated. He needs 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.360 to step down, and these women need to have be 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.200 listened to. I have a number of thoughts about this. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.880 The biggest thing in my mind is that there are 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:40.600 multiple women The allegations range from the distasteful to the illegal, 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.560 and they all need to be listened to. I was 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:49.600 really heartened to see that Alvin Bragg, who is really 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.240 I have to say, I got to talk to him recently, 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.040 and I just thought, this guy is really a good egg. 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.960 That Alvin Bragg is taking this really seriously, and that 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.120 he's not going to do partisan hacker, that he is 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:07.000 going to despite the letter next to his name, investigate 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:12.080 these allegations. Look, we give up the moral high ground 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:16.680 the minute we dismiss stuff like this. It leads us 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.960 to a place that none of us want to be. 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.760 And there is a lot a lot of these members 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:26.600 of Congress are given all sorts of, you know, second chances. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:30.080 And this is not that this is a person who 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.719 needs to be investigated. This is behavior that is not okay. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.320 And I'm really glad to see Democrats taking this very seriously. 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.000 You can't be the good guys if you enable stuff 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:41.279 like this. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:42.000 Yeah. 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.000 So what's interesting is it seems there's a compromise in 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.600 Congress with some people are calling taking out the trash 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.400 where they're going to vote to expel it looks like 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.000 four different members to Democrats to Republicans. But what's interesting 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.240 that you and I were talking about is we immediately 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.480 wouldn't looked at their cook PBI. So for people who 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.599 don't know, the cook PBI is about how much a 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.000 district leans left or right, and the two Dems are 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.760 over twenty points cook PBI, so they're very safe DEM seats. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:11.719 But both Republicans, in this environment where conservative estimates are 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.920 D plus ten swings away. Both of these are swinging 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.080 Republican favorite districts and could go to the Demos. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.080 So let's talk about this for a minute. Swawa is 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.240 in a D plus twenty district, so that is not 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.839 going to go to Republicans. Tony Gonzalez, who is his 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:31.280 sexual harasser with by the way, six kids, Okay, jesus, 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.320 I know six kids, and the staffer kills herself and 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.520 there's other staffers, and I mean it's just this is 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.599 like we have to take these women seriously, like we 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:44.919 are either the society where women count, where their voices matter, 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.240 or we are we are lost. So he is in 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.720 an R plus seven, then they are the two other 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.719 people with the Republican is Corey Mills. He's in an 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.880 R plus five. He is in Florida, and he has 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.800 all sorts of allegations. And then the other one is 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.680 Shila Shurface McCormick. She's in a D plus twenty two. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:09.359 This is a case where she got by accident a 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.920 check for five million dollars instead of I think she 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:14.880 was supposed to get a five hundred thousand dollars check, 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.360 and she just spent the five million dollars. It's fraud. 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.760 I'm sorry, guys, like as much as like it is 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.080 a little bit hilarious, you can't spend the extra four 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.400 and a half million dollars. But it was a COVID 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.000 relief funds I think. And she's now in the middle 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.240 of an ethics investigation. I think there's a criminal trial coming. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:37.240 I mean, I get that people want not to be 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:40.760 as hard on the people on their team, especially in 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.599 light of the fact that Donald Trump the Republicans have 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.159 opened the door to this kind of like, it's not 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.440 fraud if our guy does it. But you don't come 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.400 back from Donald Trump by letting people still five million dollars. 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.040 That's it. You just can't. You can't do it. And 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:00.480 that's why it's both true with Eric and with share 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.240 all shortfullest, you just can't do this. You gotta go. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.839 So look, I hope that they do this in a 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.200 way that's fair because there are a lot of people 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.239 who need to be expelled from the house right now. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.520 And I think if the next chapter of American democracy 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:19.800 involves no longer allowing this kind of sleazy shit, then 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.240 that's where we are. So I'm glad to see it. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:23.200 Yes, agreed. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.200 So you know, well everyone else in America has gotten 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.840 a memo that affordability politics that you know, no longer 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.760 allowing workers to be robbed is a way to get popularity. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.400 The Trump administration is hard at work and making sure 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:36.200 that doesn't happen. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:41.040 So this is nurses, Okay, nurses. This is not something 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:45.760 where it's like a fringe lefty issue. Okay, these are nurses. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:50.960 And as you know, we are in a healthcare crisis. Basically, Minnesota, 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:55.080 friend of the Pod, Tim Walls, had this minimum wage 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.400 floor for nursing home workers. By the way, nursing home 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:02.679 workers like this is this is an unsexy job where 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.200 people do the kind of work that families don't want 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.120 to do for themselves. I say this as someone who 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.000 has a mom and a nursing home. Like, I know 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.239 how important the people who work in nursing homes are, 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.680 Like this is you know, you won't have those people 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.960 and you have everybody comes to live with you. You know. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:23.760 So this is a big, big, big deal and it 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.880 is like really good stuff. It's what the government should 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.960 fucking be doing is making sure that people who work 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.880 in nursing homes get money. And the Trump administration because 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.600 they have to be on the wrong side of every issue, 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:44.120 those fucking guys are against the payment of nursing But 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:45.839 if you want to do fraud, if you want to 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.040 do nursing home fraud, there for that. Oh yes, yes, yes, yeah, 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:49.719 that's a big one. 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.600 You'll probably get a pardon if you do it, or. 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.800 You know, yeah, or a cabinet position. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:55.920 I was gonna say, you could become the Senator from 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:59.360 Florida if you do the work Dedicaid fraud of all time. Yeah, okay, 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.000 speaking of total grifters in common. One of my favorite 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:07.800 things of doctor Oz was when his first investigation when 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.000 after Armenians, because as a guy who votes in Turkey, 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.640 that's what you do. But what we've now seen is 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.880 he's had a huge error in his Blue State fraud probe, 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.560 and you'll be shocked to hear a lot of this 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.400 was cooked up and totally botched. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.160 Yeah, I wonder if doctor Oz went to go vote 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.760 for on this time, doctor Oz, who could not win 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.640 for Senate and so instead, by the way, he probably 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.640 would have been better than anyway. I don't want to 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.880 talk about it. You know what I'm talking about. 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.360 I think we all picked up when you were played down. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:46.000 So doctor Oz just cited wrong numbers. He said that 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:50.120 the New Yorkers who used personal care service was between 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.319 six and seven percent of the state's medicaid and role 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.640 is that is wrong? It is wrong. Now because it's 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.319 a Trump administration, not everyone is buying this is an 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:04.679 innocent mistake, of course. So I've seen your public information 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.520 officer from York Department of Public Health told AP that 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.200 Oz's false claims about the program where he targeted attempt 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.720 to obscure the facts. She can just say he's a liar. Again. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.559 It goes back to Molly's rule of the Trump administration 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:21.440 never trust their statistics because it's an administration filled with 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:29.040 lying liars who are Rick Wilson is the founder of 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.559 Lincoln Project and the host of the Lincoln Project podcast, Rick. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.359 Won Molly, what an amazing weekend we're having. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.480 Blocking the straits of hormuse. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:45.000 Nothing says strategic genius like turning the whole world against you. 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.199 Weren't they already blocking the straits? 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.800 Oh no, we're blocking the strates now. But we were 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:52.920 blocking the straits. Was very very bad. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.320 Yes, and now we're doing now we're going to block 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:55.800 the straits. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.160 Here's the problem with this whole thing. Yeah, Donald Trump 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.720 truly believes this is some move like eighty seven dimensional 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.280 quantum string theory chess. Yeah, when in fact, in the 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.839 all time in the all time list of dumb shit. Yeah, 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.440 land war in Asia? Check. Already there blocking the straits, 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:18.119 which turns off the entire world economy. Yeah, that means everything. 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:22.160 That means they're not making any more semiconductors in South 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:26.600 Korea and Taiwan because we'll be cutting off the helium supply. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.000 We're not shipping any energy out of the Gulf to 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.319 Asia to China. China is now like, well, I guess 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.000 we'll just send some anti aircraft systems over to a 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.280 run because they clearly need them. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:39.160 Yeah, it is. 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.040 The whole thing is just it is this is a 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.520 string of genius moves on Donald Trump's park. 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.280 And I don't know if you read today in the 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.320 Wall Street Journal, which has been killing it on the 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:53.439 reporting side because they hired only one that Jeff Bezos 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:57.520 fucked at the Washington Post, and so they had an 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.920 incredible piece today about how the Trump administration was warned 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.640 that this was going to completely fuck up the whole economy. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.640 Oh yeah, and it's like at every point we see 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:13.079 they're warned this is a bad idea. Sure, they decide 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:18.880 to do it anyway, because Trump gets tricked by net Yahoo. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.920 Or whatever, right or whatever. 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.679 And then they end up being like, we didn't know, 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:24.440 you know. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.559 Trump, we could have foreseen except for everyone. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:31.600 Trump was on Maria Bartaroma's podcaster was gonna say podcast, 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.880 television show, this morning, podcast on Fox Business. Professional, yeah, 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:40.640 less professional on Fox Business where the elite meet, and 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.719 he was like, they were gonna have a nuke. Huh. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.760 I thought we had obliterated the nukes. But call me crazy. 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.600 I mean but when when she asked him, Molly, I 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.839 mean you you. I must have played that clip ten 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.319 times today because when she says, well, interview prices and 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.599 gas prices to be higher or lower by November in 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.319 the life He's like, I don't know, maybe maybe a 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.880 hoopsu but could be it could be the same, or 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.960 it could be higher. One of my editors was like, 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.680 dear God, sometimes we sometimes he writes the script for us. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.160 It's long term. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.560 Pain for no term game game. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.240 I mean that by the way, they had like this 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.439 Maga messaging thing where they you saw them on all 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.840 the Fox chat, you know, be like short term pay 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.600 and long term game. It reminded me you saw this. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.240 Ashley Saint Clair had a video this week. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.280 Can I just say I was impressed by her. She 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:40.200 made a cogent's argument about the MAGA influencer ecosystem and 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.880 talked it through. I thought, in a very I mean, 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.760 that was a concise, ten minute briefing. Yes, that a 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.440 lot of people sort of intuitively feel, but I thought 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:49.920 it was actually well. 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:54.280 Done and it's what we've heard from these other exfluencers. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:58.480 The dom whatever is named Luger dom Luger, which is 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.640 basically if your MAGA influencer, just like Charlie Kirk had 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:06.360 bot farms, these guys get paid for they get paid 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:07.280 for endorsements. 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.200 Again, as we learned as we learned America's alpha male 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.840 banana eating Gunther Eagleman. Right God, who has got a 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.560 real name like Joe Smith? Right Hey, gun Through Eagleman 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.920 is like a retweet is three hundred dollars. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.840 The price is the price, Yeah, Gunther Eagleman. This crew 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.040 is all just getting paid. And and I think the secret, 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.640 which Ashley Saint Clair explains in a really smart way, 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.800 I think he is the baby mama of Elon Mush. 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.560 What she explains is that the part of the secret 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.720 of this is just lockstep messaging. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.040 Stay on message, stay on message, stay on message, and 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.200 if you're confused about it, stay on message. 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.840 And this is since you are one of the architects 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.280 of some of this, I love you for it. I 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:57.720 know you major. You've made your piece with it, right, 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.760 You've made penance. But I would love you to just 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.000 like do a minute or two on how you get 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:08.680 from Pap Buchanan w to this sure sure look. 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:13.880 The Republican Revolution that was the seed corn of the 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.240 eventual Tea Party movement which became the MAGA, started in 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.760 nineteen ninety one when my old boss, George Herbert Walker 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.240 Bush to be a responsible adult, decided that he and 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.880 the Senate would make a deal on a tiny, marginal 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:34.640 bullshit tax increase. It essentially was so marginal that it 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.600 made very little difference in the depths, a little bit, 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:41.920 a meaningful but not sweeping number. But the political consequence 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.000 of that was that Pat Buchanan and a group of 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:50.280 these incredible paleo conservative dipshits went out and ran a 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.680 primary against a seeded president. Was not done at the time. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.360 That did not happen back in the nineties or the 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.240 eighties or the seventies, It didn't really happen. Yeah, so 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.520 Buchanan loses, gets his ass handed to him, of course, 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.680 but then Bush loses the general election. You got Ross 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.280 perrot who comes in also in that sort of space, 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.240 Ross pro was like the original AstroTurf, though he had 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.880 guys cheering for him who were just paid to cheer 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.520 for him. And there was no social media then, of course, 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.920 so we grow through the Tea Party. Still no real 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.880 social media, but there is a bit of online messaging, 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.560 a bit of online organizing through early platforms. Somebody reminded 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.480 me of the day that Yahoo groups used to have 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.960 all these Tea Party communications channels in them. Okay, back 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.800 in the day when I hadn't thought about yeahoo groups 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.880 for like a decade, but then that grew as social 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:43.080 media expanded, really blew up on the scene in twenty sixteen. Race. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:48.240 These people are running these organizational chat groups and Twitter 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:53.800 in their direct messaging, on Telegram, discord other platforms that 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.640 are not as visible. But they follow a rule that 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.480 was as old as when I got into politics, which 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.440 is the thing every Republican consultant learns the day you 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:07.600 are you get your first campaign one, stay on message two, 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.880 just win. If you're confused about rule one, consult rule two. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.400 Confused about rule two, consult Rule one. Stay on message 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.360 is the gospel. It is the Catechism. It is the 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:21.959 singular moment that everybody in the Republican universe believes all 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.600 the time. Democrats could not stay on message. If you 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:29.159 have them like on a on a railcar and they 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:30.800 were they were told this is the station you used 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:32.639 get off at and you say my name is John Smith, 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.120 they will fight about who they are. They will fight 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.200 about every Oh, we're gonna get off at a different station. 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.720 We're gonna do this differently. We're gonna take a plane. 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:43.840 Republicans get on and stay on message. The unification of 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:48.680 that message ramifies from Fox News to Newsmax to bright 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.240 Bar to o An two to all these influencers online, 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.080 whether they're on Rumble or YouTube or Twitch or wherever. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:00.800 And the superpower they have is they don't really care 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.679 what the message is there. The point scoring system for 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.960 them is are they on that message? Are they with 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:11.000 the group? Are they in the pack? And so Donald 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:14.240 Trump could say tomorrow that you know, our next cart, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.840 We're going to invade the planet Venus, and they would 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.280 be like, it's about time somebody invaded Venus. And they'd 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.440 all say it with absolute conviction. They'd all say it 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.800 with absolute belief that as long as they were the 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.000 loudest voice in the room, they were going to get 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:28.359 a pat on the head, or they were going to 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.639 get monetized for that tweet, or they were going to 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:34.280 get rewarded by somebody sending them a Venmo. And it works. 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.360 I kind of want to talk about Tucker Crawlson's numbers. 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.840 I don't know if you saw that article two days ago. Yeah, 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.879 So Tucker Crawlson is actually and I was a little 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.800 bit surprised by this. He's going through the same kind 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:50.160 of thing that Ben Shapiro is going through, though probably 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:51.280 for different reasons. 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:56.080 Well, look, there was a period right after Tucker left Fox. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.560 His numbers are way down the point right fus. 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.679 His numbers are way down, not only in the polling 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.679 but in his ratings and his listeners. There is a 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:07.639 moment happening inside MAGA right now for Tucker that is 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.280 surprising because right after he left Fox, his numbers with 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.520 Republicans were through the roof. He was a king maker, 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:19.040 it was very popular, Ratings were amazing. There there was 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.280 a real world where you could see Tucker winning a 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.280 Republican presidential primary. And I'm not saying that jokingly. 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.400 It's a nightmare scenario, incredibly. 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:34.320 But what has happened now is not a symptom of Trump, 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.040 but a symptom of the MAGA base fracturing very quickly. 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.000 And for some of them, Tucker is now an apostate 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.920 and an enemy of Trump, so they're going to not listen. 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.480 For some of them, he's not going far enough against Trump, 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.040 so they're not going to listen. It's weird, and and 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.199 I think there are some Tucker stands out there who 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:58.199 like that flavor. But he also put himself in a 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.440 box as this leader of of the anti war, anti 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.439 interventionist guy who also somehow ends up on the side 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:10.679 of every you know Orbon in the world, somehow ends 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.520 up on Putin's side on everything. And there's just a 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.879 sort of sense that that he played out all his 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:18.919 cards and ended up with a Paara tubes. 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.719 Yeah, it's wild, like you think that guy should not 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:23.560 have fucked himself. 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:28.000 By the way, folks should remember, Tucker is not stupid. 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:31.480 Yeah, he's not a stupid No. I mean, that's why 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.960 it's so dangerous. Ben Shapiro continues to create. But that 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.640 I think is a marriage of pro zion as an 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:39.680 anti Semitism. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.560 Ben Shapiro the Mark Levin of Yes, it's the Mark 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:43.960 Levin of YouTube. 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:49.800 We got to go across the Atlantic, Yeah, we do, 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:56.480 to a country helmed by Victor Orbon, loved by conservatives worldwide. 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:00.280 They sent in Jadi Vans the. 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:04.640 Closer JD Vans. I would just like to introduce mister 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:10.920 Orbon to an exclusive international club. Everything Trump touches dies and. 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:15.800 Everything and everything JD vance, such as including the pope. 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:21.000 Working destroyed and this this election was a absolute nuclear 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.800 SmackDown As of the time we're recording this, Peter Magyar 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:29.040 and the Teasa Party is somewhere very close within one 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.359 or two seats in Parliament to a super majority. I 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:33.040 think they need one thirty two and they were at 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.000 one thirty when I saw it last. It probably will update. 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.960 Obviously Orbon has conceded, which everyone has kind of shocked about, 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:41.320 myself included. 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:43.600 Which is good sign. By the way, that is good. 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:47.840 Very good, sorry, very very good sign, very good. 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:48.200 Yes. 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.439 Yeah, but you know this is another thing. This The 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:56.080 people in the conservative movement, Steve Bannon, Matt Slap, jd Vance, 0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:00.600 Peter Teel, who were deeply, deeply invested in in Hungary 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:04.720 did so because they thought Orbon was the model for America. 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.239 You could scale it up. He was the champion of 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:11.840 illiberal sort of window dressing democracy. It looked like a democracy. 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.560 It still had elections, but they were rigged. It's still 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.840 had courts, but they were all his friends. It still 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.159 had private enterprise, but they were all owned by his 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.960 family members. But they really saw that as the model. 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.240 And think about it. If you do that scaling exercise 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.720 in your mind, that is what they're trying to do 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:32.919 in America. Oh, no question, and Orbon was a beloved 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:36.040 figure in that space, and now I believe he'll be 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:40.120 joining the Shield of America to help Christine know he's good. 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:45.040 That's right, She's Christino. By the way, underreported story in 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:48.760 the Daily Mail, which is breaking all the news these days. 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:53.040 Right, I don't know. I don't know, is. 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:58.680 That the Christy Nome bedjet is now going to Yeah, 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.760 she will not be using that bed with her husband 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:04.639 to discuss. 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:05.879 I don't think she's used the bed with her husband 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.680 sometimes in the last twenty years. Yeah, I would think, 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:10.160 like right after you have a kid and your husband 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.520 gets caught banging porn stars. No, I'm going to pass 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:17.400 on that anymore. That the horizontal mambo, no, thank you sir. 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:19.399 Yeah, I think that ship is sailed. 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:22.000 And I mean that that presser she did at the 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:25.480 end of the week, Oh that is that is a 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:29.399 dark hole from which no logic emerges yet except I 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:31.760 look at it. I've been thinking about it since the 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:35.240 day it happened. I look at it now as how 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:39.240 do I get out of my prenup without more lawyers? 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:43.520 I mean, the Millenia presser can be one of two things. 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.840 One is she spends all day reading stuff about herself 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.760 on the internet, and she's like, they're coming for me, 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:53.200 And so she thinks that if she does this somehow 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:56.520 it helps her. Or the other is she really just 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:58.440 wants she wants to think them. 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:00.760 I really want her to be that little girl on 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:02.359 the meme who looks back at the camera and the 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:04.040 house is burning down behind her. 0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:08.520 I mean that that I'm telling you. You know, I've 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.080 talked to so many people this weekend who kind of 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:13.440 know a lot of stuff and nobody can make any 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:14.240 sense out of it. 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:16.400 No, And I've talked to a lot of people too. 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.119 I did pick up from somebody adjacent to that to 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:21.840 the Trump Averse that the person described it to me 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.160 as it was like a nuclear bomb, not a Ron 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.280 style nuclear bomb, but a nuclear bomb went off because 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:29.840 they did not know what she was doing. She didn't 0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.159 give them an they knew she was doing something. They 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.119 thought it was some sort of be best you know, Milania, 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:40.760 the power people and the children love goodly. Yeah, vetish 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:42.160 husband for shovel. 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:47.960 Yeah, okay, so orbon jd Vance Jade Vance is now 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.280 the Elon Mosque of elections. 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:54.040 Yes, he's he's basically He's basically the kiss of death 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:58.879 for as Trump's electoral ambassador. But remember Trump put in 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.760 he was calling over there, he was tweeting about how 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.639 we were going to make Hungary's economy expand and explode 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:09.680 and be great again. And Marco was on the same 0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.720 ticket as well, and all of them. I think it 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:16.399 says something good for the world that Hungary was in 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.280 the hands of Orbon. Peter Magyard, the guy who won today, 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:21.600 started out when he was a young man, had a 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:25.560 poster of a young Victor Orbon in his apartment because 0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.719 Victor Orbon after the Cold War was a pro democratic 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.800 hero in Eastern Europe, and unfortunately he slipped into the 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:36.040 corruption net that he made for himself. Wanted to get rich, 0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.159 wanted to have power great. It shows you that eventually 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.800 even the billionaire class, and in a small country, even 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.280 the super powerful in a small country, even a crooked 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:48.320 court system in a small country like that, cannot sustain. 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.639 And I think it's even harder to sustain over time 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.480 in America, at least I hope so. But folks, the 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.520 right wing movement around the world put in a full 0:25:57.680 --> 0:25:59.960 court press on this. They had a lot of American 0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:02.480 consultants over there who are Trump consultants. 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.520 Yeah, yeah, a lot of them. 0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:07.359 They have not been uh, they've not been talking much today, 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:09.160 which is kind of fascinating because normally they're a bunch 0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.720 of big mouths. But yeah, it is. It's a good day. 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.520 It's a good day for democracy. A day that Victor 0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:18.320 Obamd loses is a good day for absolutely and a 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.840 day that JD. Vans. I mean, that's the other thing 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.320 about JD. Vance. And I want to talk about this 0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:25.680 for a minute because I feel like people are always 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.119 you know, there are a bunch of doomers on the 0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.120 internet who are like, they're just trying to put in JD. 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.679 Vans for Trump, and I'm like, you guys, bat dog, 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:35.560 don't hunt. 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.399 Don't hunt. Even if Peter Teele put it all in, 0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:41.600 shoved everything in the kitty in the middle of the 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.280 table for JD. Vance, there's a reason why Trump sent 0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.440 him to do the two shittiest jobs in government, first 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:51.080 negotiating with the Iranians with nothing to negotiate, and second 0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.440 trying to get Victor orb On a dictator reelected. While 0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:58.880 he goes with Marco, who looked absolutely like whacked out 0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:02.680 of his mind, at that at that event last night. 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.199 It's the big shoes the USC. It may be the 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.399 big shoes the USC event where you know, we're in 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:12.480 the middle of a very consequential war and Trump has uh, well, 0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.760 let's put this way. Yesterday was golfing, then last night 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.400 he was at UFC, and today he's golfing. So we're 0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.120 in great hands with JDA right now. 0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.919 It is amazing to me like that Donald Trump, he 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.800 can look at his numbers, which are have they I 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:29.600 don't know? Is he the lowest he's ever been. 0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.680 He's the lowest he's ever been. Yeah, cataly low. 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:34.840 Right, he can look at his numbers and be like, 0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:39.119 you know, w who again I disagree with him a 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.720 lot of stuff and who has been very quiet when 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.439 we could use him saying stuff. I know, I know, 0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:49.199 longer story another day, but that he did knock golf 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.840 during golf war. No, he made a real point not 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.840 to golf because of the because partially because the optics. 0:27:56.400 --> 0:28:00.359 So like these are optics. You're already UFC fight. You're 0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.760 not going to make Joe Rogan love you. I mean 0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:06.080 maybe he can, but Joe Rogan is you know again, 0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.159 so at this UFC fight, there was a moment he 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.959 saw all of his MAGA influencers. He saw Joe Rogan, 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.320 he saw that horrible guy Fury with the stupid hair. 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.159 He saw what was that about. 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.520 I didn't even know he was MAGA, but guy. 0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.840 Fury like making out with Andrew Taate. Okay, I didn't 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.000 have enough reasons to not like you, but I now 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:30.240 I do. Yeah, and you saw all those guys discuss. 0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.320 Donald Trump is now the guy who was the high 0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:37.600 school quarterback five years ago, and he graduated, and he 0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.040 went to community college for a year, then he dropped out. 0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:42.560 Now he works at a gas station. But every Friday 0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:44.600 night he still takes that corvette or that trans am. 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.280 He circles the parking lot like that was my place, man, 0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.320 I loved it. That was when I was at my peak. 0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.240 And Trump feels like this is like, it feels like 0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.320 this could not be a more friendly audience for him. 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.080 But I think that too has come to a sort 0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.160 of diminishing returns point. 0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.120 And then some yeah, I think that's right. 0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:03.800 Edgar, Donald Trump, you really want to be hanging out 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.400 with Andrew Taate, a child sex. 0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.160 Trafficker, unbelievably bad. 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.360 Rick Wilson as always my friend. 0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.520 Ed Sir Gerald is a candidate for Congress in Ohio 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:22.440 seventh District. Welcome, Welcome, Ed, Hi, Mike, let's talk about 0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:26.440 Ohio because you are running for Max Miller's congressional seat. 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.520 You have run for office before in Ohio, and I 0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.600 feel like it's probably like one of the very few 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:37.880 moments where Democrats can win in Ohio because of the 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.880 craziness of the White House. Is that your calculus and 0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:42.280 talk us through it. 0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.720 It's a different vibe than I've ever seen before, let 0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.240 me put it that way. So I've been elected to 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.840 local office. I was a mayor locally, and I was 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.160 a county executive locally. So we can win, especially in 0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.400 northeast Ohio. And basically Democrats do win in the bigger 0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.760 cities like they do across the country, right, But this 0:29:57.920 --> 0:29:59.840 is a suburban district and it's a little bit of 0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:00.800 a rural district. 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:02.280 But I've never seen a vibe like this. 0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.400 I mean, I mean, we've done We've done twenty two 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.400 town halls in the last I think four months, and 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:11.240 the level of anger and just confusion about what the 0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:13.840 country is turning into, I've never seen anything like it. 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:18.080 And so that creates a moment that you wouldn't see 0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:19.360 in a place like Ohio. 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.600 Typically, the big story that the mainstream media is missing 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.120 right now is it as uncomfortable as all of us 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.680 in TV Land are with what's happening, the American people 0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:34.880 are ten times more furious and scared. And so tell 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.040 me what it's like in these town halls. And also, 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.440 first I want you to tell us the district you're 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:43.240 running for is the what are the calculus like how 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.120 republican is and then I want to talk about maximili 0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:46.720 So the. 0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.880 District is a district that Donald Trump won with about 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.600 fifty five percent of the vote, and it's the Cleveland suburbs. 0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.480 It's the West Cleveland suburbs, and some suburbs that are 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.200 south of Cleveland. And then it's three counties that are 0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.240 south of Cleveland that are more rural. They're kind of urban, 0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.000 but they're also kind of rural. So that's what the 0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.280 that's basically what the district is. Some parts of the 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:07.240 district are kind of high income, high education. Some of 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.880 them are much more like what used to be called 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:11.800 Reagan Democratic areas. 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:13.120 These are suburbs, by. 0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.520 The way, that all the presidential candidates, whether it was 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.640 Bill Clinton or Barack Obama or George Bush, used to 0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.680 always go to these suburbs because they can swing one 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:22.360 way or the other. 0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.280 So that's what the district is. 0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.880 The vibe that you get when we've done, like I said, 0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.920 we've done twenty two town halls. Max Miller hasn't done 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:31.800 a town hall in two years. He's one of these 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.680 people that's hiding out from his constituents. And I can 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.160 see why because I have talked to these folks and 0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.400 they are pissed off. The thing is Molly that it's 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.480 tough to describe in one sentence, but I'll do my 0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.240 best to do so is what it is that they're 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.520 mad about. The way that I describe it is that 0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.080 they have this sense that the richest people in the 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.680 country have teamed up with the most corrupt people in 0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.480 the country to hijack the government. The way that that 0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.880 unfolds in their personal life is a lot of times different. 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.880 Sometimes that needs its higher grocery prices or higher gas prices. 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.520 Sometimes it needs because they're being they're getting screwed over 0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:10.120 on healthcare, but they just know that something is seriously 0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:12.200 gone off the rails. 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.320 I want you to talk about MaTx Miller. So Max 0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.560 Miller is a I don't even know how to explain him. 0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.640 He's a person from Trump world. He has a long 0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:27.400 and salacious history with ladies that includes allegations of domestic 0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.200 I mean, just talk me through. Like he's a very 0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:31.560 galvanizing candidate. 0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:35.520 I think he's one of the most vulnerable Republicans in 0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:40.200 the entire country. When you've been accused credibly by three women, 0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:45.000 including the daughter of Senator Bernie Marino, of abuse, you're 0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:45.960 in big trouble. 0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.640 Woke leftist Bernie Marino go on yes. 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:51.479 Right, And by the way, the other woman that went 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.920 on the record was Malania Trump's press secretary. So it's 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.320 not like these were people that maga people can say, oh, well, 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.040 these were crazy liberal acts of this that are making, 0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:05.240 you know, outrageous allegations. So he's just a very troubled guy. 0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.800 Let me put it that way. He's a trust fund baby. 0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.280 He comes from one of the wealthiest families in Cleveland, 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.959 and he was a Trump staff person who win the 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.959 previous Republican member of Congress voted for impeachment. 0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.520 He was one of those congressmen. His name was Anthony Gonzalez. 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.720 He wasn't very nationally prominent, but he did vote his 0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.400 conscience and he voted for impeachment. Well, they pressured him 0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:27.200 out and they plopped Max Miller in. And he's never 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.320 really developed a rapport with the district and that's only 0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.240 been heightened by the fact that he's just such a mess. 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.280 And then when he doesn't really campaign much because he's 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.640 not very good at it, but when he does speak out, 0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:38.440 you can see his. 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.360 Lack of talent, quite honestly. So give you a quick example. 0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.000 After the Minneapolis shootings, he immediately made some really disgusting 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.080 comments that basically blamed the victims there in Minneapolis. 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:52.240 Wait which Minneapolis shootings, Melissa Horton and her husband, or 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:56.520 the two American citizens who got josh. 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.719 The two American citizens. So what he said after that 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:02.000 was that anybody that has it served in the military 0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:05.000 or in law enforcement needs to shut up and not 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.880 say anything about that because they don't understand the situation. 0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:09.960 And by the way, I've been in law enforcement before, 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:11.560 and that's not how I feel. 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:12.799 I used to be in a special. 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.680 Agent with the FBI, So look, that doesn't give me 0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.719 a special right to talk about when people's human rights 0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.560 are being violated, and you know, people might think that's 0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:21.720 just a liberal issue. 0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:22.360 It's not. 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.960 There are very conservative communities. For instance, we have a 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:29.080 big Ukrainian population in the district. Well they've been affected 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.239 by ice, and so I just think this guy is 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.400 completely out of touch. This is not a crazy, crazy 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.880 right wing district at all. He only got fifty one 0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.520 percent of the vote, by the way, in twenty twenty four, 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.480 so I think he should be at the top of 0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.480 the list. I'm not just saying that because I'm running, 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.399 but I guess I have an extra reason to say that. 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:50.240 Yeah, I mean, I've known about this guy as someone 0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:54.160 who writes about domestic violence or tries to make sure 0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.799 to highlight when I see that happen on the left 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.799 or the right. The fact that there were so many 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.200 women and he kept having you know, I just couldn't 0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:06.279 that really. I was really shocked there hasn't been any 0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:08.600 kind of follow up there. And the fact that it's 0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:12.279 not an extreme maga district. You know, even though we're 0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.719 seeing today we have Rome Georgia doing runoff your campaigning 0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.239 in this district the suburbs of Cleveland, and I've been 0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:23.000 there I'm curious to hear what people tell you are 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.360 the big concerns, because that I think is very useful 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:27.040 and important to know. 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.120 Yeah, people do care about the corruption. I mean I 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.480 talked about corruption a lot because my background wasn't investigating it, 0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.960 so I do focus on it a lot. The incredible 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:37.960 scams that are going on that we find out out 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.839 about on an almost daily basis, that really gets under 0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:42.960 people's skin because when you're struggling to make it and 0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:43.680 you know that other. 0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:45.280 People are getting rich off the system. 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.080 That really does resonate with people when they talk about 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.600 things though that how that kind of works out into 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.040 their daily life. The biggest thing that we do hear 0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.160 about is healthcare. So Max Miller was one of the 0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:01.120 people that voted against extending the subsidy for the Affordable 0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.400 Care Act. That affected about forty thousand people just in 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.319 this district. So that's a huge percentage of people. And 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.000 by the way, that hit people harder in the rural 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.560 areas than it actually did in the suburban areas. So 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.160 we hear about that a lot. And everybody has a 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:17.440 personal story about that. 0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:18.239 I mean I do. 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:22.120 In my family, almost everybody has a story about how 0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:27.120 they're either underinsured or uninsured, or they can afford the premiums, 0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.360 or they can't afford the deductibles, and so that really 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.879 hit people hard. So there's about twenty five thousand people 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.120 that are scheduled to get kicked off of Medicaid. There's 0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.680 about forty thousand who just have their premiums go through 0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.000 the roof. So that's something we hear about a lot, 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.840 and it's one of the reasons. I mean, I'm for 0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:46.000 Medicare for all, and I find that that issue really 0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:49.200 resonates with people. Not that Medicare is perfect, but they 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.879 know it, they understand it, and they see that as 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:53.440 I'm not just telling them. 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.080 Hey, I feel you're pain. That sucks. 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.279 I'm also saying there is a way to get there. 0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.800 We can finally get serious about this in this country. 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:03.080 I would love to talk about Like, you're in a 0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:08.040 state that's been very republican. You have this governor who 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.799 sort of was able to walk the line. Now he's 0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:15.120 turned out right, so you had shared shared's running again. 0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:17.920 Like I'd love you to just talk about the landscape, 0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:22.759 Like because I remember going to Ohio in twenty sixteen 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.800 and getting the sense that this this state was really 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.440 going to vote for Trump, Like, I just really like 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.120 I didn't see any Clinton lawn signs or I saw 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.920 very few, and I thought, this is not going to 0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:36.480 be a Democratic win. You can sort of feel it, 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:37.839 So tell me what it's like. 0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.560 Yeah, I was around in politics for long enough that 0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.239 I kind of saw the whole thing coming. I mean, 0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.960 I'm old enough that I remember when we had Democratic 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:51.719 governors in the eighties. But we basically the state wide 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.440 party has, with the exception of Shared Brown, has been 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.680 on a pretty big losing streak since nineteen ninety. 0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.560 Now, the exception to that was back Obama. 0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.400 But I gotta tell you, Molly, that was different because 0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:07.319 they put so many resources into the state and they 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.120 had so many volunteers. I mean, they had so many 0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:13.120 young people that we reactive. Two thousand and eight was incredible, 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.359 although two thousand and four was also very competitive at 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.040 the presidential level, but two thousand and eight was incredible. 0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.120 You just felt it on the ground and then kind 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:22.799 of the air went out of the balloon and you 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.960 started feeling in twenty ten is when it all started 0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.360 to kind of go wrong in the state, and you 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.759 could just feel it on the ground. What's happening, and 0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.920 I think it's happening in other states like Iowa's really interesting. 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.720 I think also Iowa, you see, they're kind of getting 0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.760 buyer's remorse. We've had a Republican government for so long 0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.920 in this state, Like I said, I mean except for 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.120 four years, since nineteen ninety, every governor has been Republican, 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.359 except for four years. That people are saying, you know what, 0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.240 we are getting screwed, and at what point in time 0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:56.040 do we need to start holding the people accountable that 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:57.400 are actually running this state. 0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.719 So there's just a lot of buyer's remort. We did 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:01.200 two polls against Maxi Miller. 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.600 We were winning in both of them, one by two points, 0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.319 one by four points. And what was surprising was not 0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:08.399 that the Democrats were voting for me. It was how 0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:12.279 many Republicans and independents were saying, Okay, I finally had enough. 0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:13.960 I just think we're at a tipping point. 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.200 It's funny because I'm thinking about the Bernie Marino Senate 0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:19.720 race from the twenty four cycle, and like it really 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:23.600 did from the outside. Remember I'm not in Oha, but 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.960 from the outside it certainly seemed as if Bernie had 0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.840 been like crypto had come in and just been like, 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:33.319 no more Sharon Brown. Bernie Marino's our man. And like 0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:39.399 when you hear him, he seems real sleazy compared to Sharon. Right. 0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:41.520 You know, I'm not friends with him, but I know 0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.520 him a little, and like he seems pretty folksy and 0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:48.160 Bernie seems really sleezy. Like it seemed like Shared might 0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:50.200 be able to hold on to seat. You think there's 0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.640 remorse there? I mean, do people talk to you about 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:53.120 that at all? 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:57.840 Well, twenty twenty four was a really crazy political year here, 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.359 and I'll tell you why. First of all, your instinct, right, 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.760 I mean, Shared Brown has had a long, long relationship, 0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:05.720 I mean goes back into the eighties with the voters, 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.400 and he's always been somebody that can can it, talks 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.480 like a regular person. And Bernie Marino I don't think 0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:13.399 has that ability at all. 0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:16.239 But he owned car dealerships, right, He's a. 0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.920 Car dealership guy, and I don't think people knew what 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:19.719 his background was. 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:20.520 But here's the thing. 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:22.960 Over sixty percent of the ads, and if you lived 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.480 in Ohio you saw this. Over sixty percent of the 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:29.160 ads that Bernie Marino ran were negative ads against Shared Brown. 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:31.560 And it was almost always on one issue. You want 0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:34.880 to guess what it was trans in sports exactly. 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.760 You could not turn on a television here without somebody saying, 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.480 I just can't vote for Shared Brown again because I 0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:44.719 don't think that men should be playing on women's basketball teams. 0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:45.319 Insane. 0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:49.279 It was the ultimate distraction operation, and it was I'm 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.280 telling you, it was overwhelming. And there's all this bullshit 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.400 going on where the super PACs, as you said, the 0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:57.320 crypto industry and so forth, they were running the same ads. 0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.960 Right, Supposedly these are independent, but that's all bullshit. 0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:03.960 They clearly are coordinating, and it was just absolutely overwhelming. 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.719 The question is when you're living your daily life and 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:08.720 you can see that your life did not get better 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.960 because of all those commercials, and you're actually still struggling 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.160 to make it. You don't have gas, that's a dollar fifty, 0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.879 it's four bucks. At what point do you in time 0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:19.600 do you say, you know what, I got conned by this? 0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.880 And I think we are getting Some people are going 0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:24.439 to be conned and they're never going to figure it out. 0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.440 But I do think a lot of people have figured 0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:26.799 it out. 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.960 Have you had people say to you like, have we 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:30.640 got conned? 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.279 Yes, absolutely. 0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:34.440 And the other part of a winning an election is 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.960 that your own base has to be motivated, and our 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.480 base is I mean, look they said, listen, we thought 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.640 think terrible things were going to happen. We didn't know 0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.839 it was going to be this terrible. I mean, every 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.200 single day, I have a line that I always tell 0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:49.399 these tell these town halls. 0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:50.239 What do we do them? I say. 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.640 I used to say I had to check my phone, 0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:54.839 you know, the morning of the town hall to make 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:56.880 sure it's something crazy. Now I have to check it 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:58.080 five minutes before. 0:41:58.400 --> 0:41:58.840 Yeah. 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.240 And there's just this sense that the country is slipping 0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.760 out of control. So I think the combination of buyer's 0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.960 remorse plus a motivated base adds up to Max Miller 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:08.960 taking an early retirement. 0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.640 Today is a really good example of you. Donald Trump 0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:15.680 threatened to basically just blow up all of Iran. Not 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.880 entirely clear why he decided to do that today, but 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.960 it certainly feels like we are a country run by 0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.879 Matt King who has very little accountability. Congress out of 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:31.080 office for the holiday because God to have spring break. 0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.560 When you're talking to people, do they sort of remember 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.719 what government looks like that we've been in this thing 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:38.600 for a decade. 0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.760 It depends how old they are. Yeah, I'll give you example. 0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:45.080 So my kids, I've got four kids, they're my youngest 0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:48.439 is twenty six. Okay, so my daughter Bridget is twenty six. 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.120 She doesn't really you know, her last ten years of 0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.719 her life and all of her adult life as a 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.080 citizen who can vote right, has all been about this madness. 0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:00.160 So one thing that I am worried about is we 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:01.880 do have young people show up at the town halls. 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:03.799 But even if you look at No King's Day, which 0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:05.920 we had some great No King's Day protests here, it 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.439 still was an older crowd. Because I think a lot 0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:10.919 of people that are on the younger side have said 0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:14.560 this is soft up, that maybe it can never work again, 0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.240 because these are people a lot of times that barely 0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:19.799 remember Barack Obama. I know that sounds crazy, but if 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.040 you're young enough, you don't really remember that or that's 0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:24.920 part of your childhood, and all they've seen is this dysfunction. 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:28.160 And those are the hardest questions to answer, I'll tell 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:30.080 you at town hall. I mean, look, I don't know 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.000 when this is going to air, but yesterday I saw 0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:35.120 the president basically promising war crimes while standing next to 0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:35.880 the easter bunny. 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:37.719 Yeah, it's surreal. 0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.040 So you get to a point where you're like, look, 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.680 I get it, while why you're so cynical and you 0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:45.719 don't think that things can work. So I always tell people, look, 0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:47.960 I don't want to over promise. I do think Democrats 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:49.680 are going to take back Congress, and then we are 0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:53.239 in for two more crazy years until these assholes are 0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:55.480 totally out of office, because it's. 0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:56.919 Never going to be normal while they're there. 0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.480 That may not be an uplifting message, but I'm trying 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.480 to be straight with people, and I tell people one 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.120 of the reasons I think I'm a good candidate is 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.120 I've seen a lot of stuff politically. I've done a 0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.120 lot of things in my career. I thought i'd seen 0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:08.799 the worst of the worst. Well, these people are the 0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:10.400 worst of the worst, and we're not going to get 0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.000 rid of them just because we have a good election 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.200 this year. We've got to buckle up and get ready 0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.239 for two more crazy years at Fitzgerald. 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:17.840 When it's the. 0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:21.920 Primary primary is on May fifth, and actually early voting 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:23.680 starts on April. 0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.760 Seventh, Is it a crowded field. 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:26.880 It's a crowded field. 0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:29.719 But look a few years ago the Democratic Party had 0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:31.760 to scramble to find somebody to run in this district. 0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:33.680 And now there's all kinds of people running. But I 0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:35.279 think it looks pretty good for us. But we'll see 0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:36.640 what We'll see what happens. 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:37.439 All right, we'll come back. 0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:38.839 Banks appreciate it. 0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:47.560 No moment, Rick Wilson, Hey, Molly, it always must be 0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.040 that if there is a moment of fucker ey, it 0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:53.640 is somehow tied to Trump corruption. And if it's Trump 0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:58.040 corruption and it's attacking your enemy, is in a very 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:02.200 well be fancy rich by friend of Trumps. 0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.239 Yeah. So a guy that most of us don't pay 0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:07.400 a ton of attention to except you and I, of course, 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:09.960 named Bill Paulty. Inside the administration, he is a huge 0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:13.800 friend of the president. He runs the Federal Housing Finance Agency, 0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:17.320 which is the group that's been responsible for quote unquote 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:23.359 finding these bullshit mortgage fraud accusations against Tis James and 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:25.600 who god knows who else. Right, they've all turned out 0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:29.080 to be nothing burgers. But he is an eager Trump 0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.960 asked Kitter of the highest degree, and now Finance can 0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:35.480 has found out that Paulty gave sixty five thousand dollars 0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:40.040 to a charity Aham called One World love LLC. 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:41.600 Yes, that's right. 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:45.759 Here's the thing. One World love LLC was built by 0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.560 one of the partners at the Banal Law Group, the 0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:54.200 benal Banal Bi n All. But the way it sounds 0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:55.600 is the way it is. 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.279 Michael Wolfe said, I say banal things on television. 0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.880 You know what. Michael wolf has thousands of emails I know, 0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:05.399 and you don't. So there you're go, yeah, there you go. 0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:06.239 Keep going. 0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:10.279 Anyway, this was during a period of time where they 0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:14.120 were paying Banal Law Group. Trump owed them jillions of 0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:17.880 dollars and this looked like a charitable payment or charitable deduction, 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.440 but it turns out it was just to pay Trump's 0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:25.360 fucking legal bills. These people are so shady. And now, 0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:28.920 since this was a five oh one C three, mister Polti, 0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:31.640 who apparently is a stickler for the rules, because everybody's 0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.160 mortgages have to be examined with a fine tooth, call 0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:39.359 miss party maybe entering the finding out territory. Oh, it's 0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:41.680 not always the big corruption. I mean, sixty five thousand 0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.160 dollars in Trump corruption money is like nothing. But I 0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.440 mean it's still the point. It's the point. Rick Wilson, 0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.000 Molly John Fast I'll see you next week. 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:54.840 That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in 0:46:55.120 --> 0:47:00.560 every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday to hear the best 0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:04.960 minds and politics makes sense of all this chaos. 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