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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: unpopular vice president in the history of Poland that's pretty fun.

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Speaker 1: We have such a great joke for you today. The

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Speaker 1: talk to Ed Fitzgerald about his run for Ohio's seventh

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Speaker 2: We are seeing inflation, we are seeing gas prices close

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Speaker 2: it and mister Trump is going to be here to

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Speaker 2: the rescue.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, no, he's not here.

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Speaker 2: He is talking to the money honey, Maria Bartiromo, and

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Speaker 2: she looks horrified as he says this.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love a clip. Let's go. So, do you

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Speaker 1: believe the price of oil and gas will be lower

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Speaker 4: Yes, I hope. So.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think it could be all the same,

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Speaker 2: It's so funny because her eyes just bug out of

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Speaker 4: I was trying to let you eye. If you didn't, if.

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Speaker 1: You have a little time, go on the internet and

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Speaker 1: search that interview with Maria Bartaroma, because it's like a

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Speaker 1: masterclass in him cycling through various anxieties. At one point

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Speaker 1: all up thing, which is something. It's clear his levels

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Speaker 1: of desperation, of anxiety, of you know, it just isn't

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Speaker 1: a truly insane bit of everything bad. It's absolutely worth

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna admit I was wrong about something on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: What we never learned from our mistakes here at Fast

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Speaker 2: Would I see politicians like Jbi Raskin say Trump needs

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Speaker 2: a head example, I'm like, I hate this kind of performative.

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Speaker 1: It's like distractions.

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Speaker 2: When I watched that interview, I was like, all right, up,

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Speaker 2: bub tea brasket here, this guy's fucking gets saved.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, he's seventy nine years old, and like

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Speaker 1: that is old. I mean, you know, there are some

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Speaker 1: seventy nine year olds who are sharp as attack. My

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so let's talk about some real ugliness in

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Speaker 2: our congress. So, as we learned this weekend that Eric

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Speaker 2: Swalwell has been having a few affairs here and there,

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Speaker 1: It best he's a fuse. Yeah. Well, at worst it's

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Speaker 1: something much darker, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So it looks like in Congress the compromise is

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Speaker 2: that there's been a lot of people whose behavior has

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Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez who's sexually harassed scatpers and one of them

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Speaker 1: You know, Eric swahe and I have been friendly over

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Speaker 1: telling you this all has to be investigated. He needs

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Speaker 1: really heartened to see that Alvin Bragg, who is really

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Speaker 1: That Alvin Bragg is taking this really seriously, and that

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Speaker 2: So what's interesting is it seems there's a compromise in

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about this for a minute. Swawa is

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Speaker 1: This is a case where she got by accident a

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Speaker 1: and she just spent the five million dollars. It's fraud.

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Speaker 2: So you know, well everyone else in America has gotten

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Speaker 2: a memo that affordability politics that you know, no longer

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Speaker 1: So this is nurses, Okay, nurses. This is not something

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Speaker 1: those fucking guys are against the payment of nursing But

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Speaker 4: You'll probably get a pardon if you do it, or.

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Speaker 2: Florida if you do the work Dedicaid fraud of all time. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: he's had a huge error in his Blue State fraud probe,

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Speaker 4: I think we all picked up when you were played down.

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Speaker 1: So doctor Oz just cited wrong numbers. He said that

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Speaker 1: innocent mistake, of course. So I've seen your public information

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Speaker 1: It goes back to Molly's rule of the Trump administration

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Speaker 4: Won Molly, what an amazing weekend we're having.

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Speaker 1: Blocking the straits of hormuse.

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Speaker 4: Nothing says strategic genius like turning the whole world against you.

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Speaker 1: Weren't they already blocking the straits?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, we're blocking the strates now. But we were

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Speaker 4: blocking the straits. Was very very bad.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and now we're doing now we're going to block

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Speaker 4: Here's the problem with this whole thing. Yeah, Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: land war in Asia? Check. Already there blocking the straits,

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Speaker 4: which turns off the entire world economy. Yeah, that means everything.

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Speaker 4: That means they're not making any more semiconductors in South

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Speaker 4: Asia to China. China is now like, well, I guess

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Speaker 4: we'll just send some anti aircraft systems over to a

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Speaker 4: run because they clearly need them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 4: The whole thing is just it is this is a

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Speaker 4: string of genius moves on Donald Trump's park.

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Speaker 1: And so she thinks that if she does this somehow

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Speaker 1: it helps her. Or the other is she really just

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Speaker 1: wants she wants to think them.

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Speaker 4: I really want her to be that little girl on

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Speaker 4: the meme who looks back at the camera and the

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Speaker 4: house is burning down behind her.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that I'm telling you. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: talked to so many people this weekend who kind of

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Speaker 1: know a lot of stuff and nobody can make any

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Speaker 1: sense out of it.

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Speaker 4: No, And I've talked to a lot of people too.

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Speaker 4: I did pick up from somebody adjacent to that to

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Speaker 4: the Trump Averse that the person described it to me

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Speaker 4: as it was like a nuclear bomb, not a Ron

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Speaker 4: style nuclear bomb, but a nuclear bomb went off because

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Speaker 4: they did not know what she was doing. She didn't

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Speaker 4: give them an they knew she was doing something. They

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Speaker 4: thought it was some sort of be best you know, Milania,

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Speaker 4: the power people and the children love goodly. Yeah, vetish

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Speaker 4: husband for shovel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so orbon jd Vance Jade Vance is now

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Speaker 1: the Elon Mosque of elections.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he's he's basically He's basically the kiss of death

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Speaker 4: for as Trump's electoral ambassador. But remember Trump put in

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Speaker 4: he was calling over there, he was tweeting about how

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Speaker 4: we were going to make Hungary's economy expand and explode

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Speaker 4: and be great again. And Marco was on the same

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Speaker 4: ticket as well, and all of them. I think it

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Speaker 4: says something good for the world that Hungary was in

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Speaker 4: the hands of Orbon. Peter Magyard, the guy who won today,

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Speaker 4: started out when he was a young man, had a

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Speaker 4: poster of a young Victor Orbon in his apartment because

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Speaker 4: Victor Orbon after the Cold War was a pro democratic

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Speaker 4: hero in Eastern Europe, and unfortunately he slipped into the

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Speaker 4: corruption net that he made for himself. Wanted to get rich,

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Speaker 4: wanted to have power great. It shows you that eventually

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Speaker 4: even the billionaire class, and in a small country, even

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Speaker 4: the super powerful in a small country, even a crooked

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Speaker 4: court system in a small country like that, cannot sustain.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's even harder to sustain over time

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Speaker 4: in America, at least I hope so. But folks, the

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Speaker 4: right wing movement around the world put in a full

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Speaker 4: court press on this. They had a lot of American

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Speaker 4: consultants over there who are Trump consultants.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: They have not been uh, they've not been talking much today,

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Speaker 4: which is kind of fascinating because normally they're a bunch

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Speaker 4: of big mouths. But yeah, it is. It's a good day.

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Speaker 1: It's a good day for democracy. A day that Victor

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Speaker 1: Obamd loses is a good day for absolutely and a

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Speaker 1: day that JD. Vans. I mean, that's the other thing

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Speaker 1: about JD. Vance. And I want to talk about this

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Speaker 1: for a minute because I feel like people are always

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Speaker 1: you know, there are a bunch of doomers on the

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Speaker 1: internet who are like, they're just trying to put in JD.

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Speaker 1: Vans for Trump, and I'm like, you guys, bat dog,

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Speaker 1: don't hunt.

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Speaker 4: Don't hunt. Even if Peter Teele put it all in,

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Speaker 4: shoved everything in the kitty in the middle of the

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Speaker 4: table for JD. Vance, there's a reason why Trump sent

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Speaker 4: him to do the two shittiest jobs in government, first

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Speaker 4: negotiating with the Iranians with nothing to negotiate, and second

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Speaker 4: trying to get Victor orb On a dictator reelected. While

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Speaker 4: he goes with Marco, who looked absolutely like whacked out

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Speaker 4: of his mind, at that at that event last night.

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Speaker 4: It's the big shoes the USC. It may be the

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Speaker 4: big shoes the USC event where you know, we're in

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Speaker 4: the middle of a very consequential war and Trump has uh, well,

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Speaker 4: let's put this way. Yesterday was golfing, then last night

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Speaker 4: he was at UFC, and today he's golfing. So we're

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Speaker 4: in great hands with JDA right now.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing to me like that Donald Trump, he

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Speaker 1: can look at his numbers, which are have they I

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Speaker 1: don't know? Is he the lowest he's ever been.

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Speaker 4: He's the lowest he's ever been. Yeah, cataly low.

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Speaker 1: Right, he can look at his numbers and be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, w who again I disagree with him a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff and who has been very quiet when

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Speaker 1: we could use him saying stuff. I know, I know,

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Speaker 1: longer story another day, but that he did knock golf

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Speaker 1: during golf war. No, he made a real point not

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Speaker 1: to golf because of the because partially because the optics.

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Speaker 1: So like these are optics. You're already UFC fight. You're

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Speaker 1: not going to make Joe Rogan love you. I mean

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Speaker 1: maybe he can, but Joe Rogan is you know again,

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Speaker 1: so at this UFC fight, there was a moment he

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Speaker 1: saw all of his MAGA influencers. He saw Joe Rogan,

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Speaker 1: he saw that horrible guy Fury with the stupid hair.

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Speaker 3: He saw what was that about.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know he was MAGA, but guy.

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Speaker 1: Fury like making out with Andrew Taate. Okay, I didn't

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Speaker 1: have enough reasons to not like you, but I now

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Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, and you saw all those guys discuss.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump is now the guy who was the high

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Speaker 4: school quarterback five years ago, and he graduated, and he

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Speaker 4: went to community college for a year, then he dropped out.

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Speaker 4: Now he works at a gas station. But every Friday

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Speaker 4: night he still takes that corvette or that trans am.

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Speaker 4: He circles the parking lot like that was my place, man,

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Speaker 4: I loved it. That was when I was at my peak.

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Speaker 4: And Trump feels like this is like, it feels like

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Speaker 4: this could not be a more friendly audience for him.

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Speaker 4: But I think that too has come to a sort

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Speaker 4: of diminishing returns point.

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Speaker 1: And then some yeah, I think that's right.

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Speaker 4: Edgar, Donald Trump, you really want to be hanging out

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Speaker 4: with Andrew Taate, a child sex.

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Speaker 1: Trafficker, unbelievably bad.

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Speaker 4: Rick Wilson as always my friend.

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Speaker 1: Ed Sir Gerald is a candidate for Congress in Ohio

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Speaker 1: seventh District. Welcome, Welcome, Ed, Hi, Mike, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Ohio because you are running for Max Miller's congressional seat.

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Speaker 1: You have run for office before in Ohio, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's probably like one of the very few

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Speaker 1: moments where Democrats can win in Ohio because of the

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Speaker 1: craziness of the White House. Is that your calculus and

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Speaker 1: talk us through it.

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Speaker 5: It's a different vibe than I've ever seen before, let

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Speaker 5: me put it that way. So I've been elected to

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Speaker 5: local office. I was a mayor locally, and I was

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Speaker 5: a county executive locally. So we can win, especially in

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Speaker 5: northeast Ohio. And basically Democrats do win in the bigger

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Speaker 5: cities like they do across the country, right, But this

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Speaker 5: is a suburban district and it's a little bit of

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Speaker 5: a rural district.

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Speaker 3: But I've never seen a vibe like this.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, we've done We've done twenty two

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Speaker 5: town halls in the last I think four months, and

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Speaker 5: the level of anger and just confusion about what the

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Speaker 5: country is turning into, I've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 5: And so that creates a moment that you wouldn't see

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Speaker 5: in a place like Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Typically, the big story that the mainstream media is missing

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Speaker 1: right now is it as uncomfortable as all of us

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Speaker 1: in TV Land are with what's happening, the American people

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Speaker 1: are ten times more furious and scared. And so tell

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Speaker 1: me what it's like in these town halls. And also,

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Speaker 1: first I want you to tell us the district you're

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Speaker 1: running for is the what are the calculus like how

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Speaker 1: republican is and then I want to talk about maximili

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Speaker 1: So the.

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Speaker 5: District is a district that Donald Trump won with about

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Speaker 5: fifty five percent of the vote, and it's the Cleveland suburbs.

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Speaker 5: It's the West Cleveland suburbs, and some suburbs that are

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Speaker 5: south of Cleveland. And then it's three counties that are

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Speaker 5: south of Cleveland that are more rural. They're kind of urban,

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Speaker 5: but they're also kind of rural. So that's what the

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Speaker 5: that's basically what the district is. Some parts of the

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Speaker 5: district are kind of high income, high education. Some of

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Speaker 5: them are much more like what used to be called

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Speaker 5: Reagan Democratic areas.

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Speaker 3: These are suburbs, by.

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Speaker 5: The way, that all the presidential candidates, whether it was

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Speaker 5: Bill Clinton or Barack Obama or George Bush, used to

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Speaker 5: always go to these suburbs because they can swing one

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Speaker 5: way or the other.

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Speaker 3: So that's what the district is.

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Speaker 5: The vibe that you get when we've done, like I said,

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Speaker 5: we've done twenty two town halls. Max Miller hasn't done

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Speaker 5: a town hall in two years. He's one of these

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Speaker 5: people that's hiding out from his constituents. And I can

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Speaker 5: see why because I have talked to these folks and

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Speaker 5: they are pissed off. The thing is Molly that it's

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Speaker 5: tough to describe in one sentence, but I'll do my

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Speaker 5: best to do so is what it is that they're

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Speaker 5: mad about. The way that I describe it is that

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Speaker 5: they have this sense that the richest people in the

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Speaker 5: country have teamed up with the most corrupt people in

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Speaker 5: the country to hijack the government. The way that that

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Speaker 5: unfolds in their personal life is a lot of times different.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes that needs its higher grocery prices or higher gas prices.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes it needs because they're being they're getting screwed over

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Speaker 5: on healthcare, but they just know that something is seriously

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Speaker 5: gone off the rails.

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Speaker 1: I want you to talk about MaTx Miller. So Max

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Speaker 1: Miller is a I don't even know how to explain him.

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Speaker 1: He's a person from Trump world. He has a long

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Speaker 1: and salacious history with ladies that includes allegations of domestic

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Speaker 1: I mean, just talk me through. Like he's a very

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Speaker 1: galvanizing candidate.

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Speaker 5: I think he's one of the most vulnerable Republicans in

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Speaker 5: the entire country. When you've been accused credibly by three women,

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Speaker 5: including the daughter of Senator Bernie Marino, of abuse, you're

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Speaker 5: in big trouble.

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Speaker 1: Woke leftist Bernie Marino go on yes.

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Speaker 5: Right, And by the way, the other woman that went

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Speaker 5: on the record was Malania Trump's press secretary. So it's

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Speaker 5: not like these were people that maga people can say, oh, well,

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Speaker 5: these were crazy liberal acts of this that are making,

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Speaker 5: you know, outrageous allegations. So he's just a very troubled guy.

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Speaker 5: Let me put it that way. He's a trust fund baby.

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Speaker 5: He comes from one of the wealthiest families in Cleveland,

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Speaker 5: and he was a Trump staff person who win the

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Speaker 5: previous Republican member of Congress voted for impeachment.

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Speaker 3: He was one of those congressmen. His name was Anthony Gonzalez.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't very nationally prominent, but he did vote his

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Speaker 5: conscience and he voted for impeachment. Well, they pressured him

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Speaker 5: out and they plopped Max Miller in. And he's never

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Speaker 5: really developed a rapport with the district and that's only

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Speaker 5: been heightened by the fact that he's just such a mess.

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Speaker 5: And then when he doesn't really campaign much because he's

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Speaker 5: not very good at it, but when he does speak out,

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Speaker 5: you can see his.

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Speaker 3: Lack of talent, quite honestly. So give you a quick example.

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Speaker 5: After the Minneapolis shootings, he immediately made some really disgusting

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Speaker 5: comments that basically blamed the victims there in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: Wait which Minneapolis shootings, Melissa Horton and her husband, or

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Speaker 1: the two American citizens who got josh.

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Speaker 5: The two American citizens. So what he said after that

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Speaker 5: was that anybody that has it served in the military

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Speaker 5: or in law enforcement needs to shut up and not

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Speaker 5: say anything about that because they don't understand the situation.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, I've been in law enforcement before,

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Speaker 5: and that's not how I feel.

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Speaker 3: I used to be in a special.

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Speaker 5: Agent with the FBI, So look, that doesn't give me

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Speaker 5: a special right to talk about when people's human rights

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Speaker 5: are being violated, and you know, people might think that's

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Speaker 5: just a liberal issue.

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Speaker 4: It's not.

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Speaker 5: There are very conservative communities. For instance, we have a

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Speaker 5: big Ukrainian population in the district. Well they've been affected

656
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Speaker 5: by ice, and so I just think this guy is

657
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 5: completely out of touch. This is not a crazy, crazy

658
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Speaker 5: right wing district at all. He only got fifty one

659
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Speaker 5: percent of the vote, by the way, in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 5: so I think he should be at the top of

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Speaker 5: the list. I'm not just saying that because I'm running,

662
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Speaker 5: but I guess I have an extra reason to say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've known about this guy as someone

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Speaker 1: who writes about domestic violence or tries to make sure

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Speaker 1: to highlight when I see that happen on the left

666
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Speaker 1: or the right. The fact that there were so many

667
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Speaker 1: women and he kept having you know, I just couldn't

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Speaker 1: that really. I was really shocked there hasn't been any

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Speaker 1: kind of follow up there. And the fact that it's

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Speaker 1: not an extreme maga district. You know, even though we're

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Speaker 1: seeing today we have Rome Georgia doing runoff your campaigning

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Speaker 1: in this district the suburbs of Cleveland, and I've been

673
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Speaker 1: there I'm curious to hear what people tell you are

674
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Speaker 1: the big concerns, because that I think is very useful

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Speaker 1: and important to know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, people do care about the corruption. I mean I

677
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 5: talked about corruption a lot because my background wasn't investigating it,

678
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 5: so I do focus on it a lot. The incredible

679
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 5: scams that are going on that we find out out

680
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 5: about on an almost daily basis, that really gets under

681
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 5: people's skin because when you're struggling to make it and

682
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Speaker 5: you know that other.

683
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Speaker 3: People are getting rich off the system.

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Speaker 5: That really does resonate with people when they talk about

685
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Speaker 5: things though that how that kind of works out into

686
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Speaker 5: their daily life. The biggest thing that we do hear

687
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Speaker 5: about is healthcare. So Max Miller was one of the

688
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Speaker 5: people that voted against extending the subsidy for the Affordable

689
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Speaker 5: Care Act. That affected about forty thousand people just in

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Speaker 5: this district. So that's a huge percentage of people. And

691
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Speaker 5: by the way, that hit people harder in the rural

692
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Speaker 5: areas than it actually did in the suburban areas. So

693
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Speaker 5: we hear about that a lot. And everybody has a

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Speaker 5: personal story about that.

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Speaker 3: I mean I do.

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Speaker 5: In my family, almost everybody has a story about how

697
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 5: they're either underinsured or uninsured, or they can afford the premiums,

698
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 5: or they can't afford the deductibles, and so that really

699
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Speaker 5: hit people hard. So there's about twenty five thousand people

700
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Speaker 5: that are scheduled to get kicked off of Medicaid. There's

701
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Speaker 5: about forty thousand who just have their premiums go through

702
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Speaker 5: the roof. So that's something we hear about a lot,

703
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Speaker 5: and it's one of the reasons. I mean, I'm for

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Speaker 5: Medicare for all, and I find that that issue really

705
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 5: resonates with people. Not that Medicare is perfect, but they

706
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 5: know it, they understand it, and they see that as

707
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Speaker 5: I'm not just telling them.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I feel you're pain. That sucks.

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Speaker 5: I'm also saying there is a way to get there.

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Speaker 5: We can finally get serious about this in this country.

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Speaker 1: I would love to talk about Like, you're in a

712
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Speaker 1: state that's been very republican. You have this governor who

713
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Speaker 1: sort of was able to walk the line. Now he's

714
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Speaker 1: turned out right, so you had shared shared's running again.

715
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Speaker 1: Like I'd love you to just talk about the landscape,

716
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Speaker 1: Like because I remember going to Ohio in twenty sixteen

717
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: and getting the sense that this this state was really

718
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Speaker 1: going to vote for Trump, Like, I just really like

719
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Speaker 1: I didn't see any Clinton lawn signs or I saw

720
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Speaker 1: very few, and I thought, this is not going to

721
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Speaker 1: be a Democratic win. You can sort of feel it,

722
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Speaker 1: So tell me what it's like.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was around in politics for long enough that

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Speaker 5: I kind of saw the whole thing coming. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'm old enough that I remember when we had Democratic

726
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Speaker 5: governors in the eighties. But we basically the state wide

727
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Speaker 5: party has, with the exception of Shared Brown, has been

728
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Speaker 5: on a pretty big losing streak since nineteen ninety.

729
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Speaker 3: Now, the exception to that was back Obama.

730
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Speaker 5: But I gotta tell you, Molly, that was different because

731
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 5: they put so many resources into the state and they

732
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Speaker 5: had so many volunteers. I mean, they had so many

733
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Speaker 5: young people that we reactive. Two thousand and eight was incredible,

734
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Speaker 5: although two thousand and four was also very competitive at

735
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Speaker 5: the presidential level, but two thousand and eight was incredible.

736
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Speaker 5: You just felt it on the ground and then kind

737
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 5: of the air went out of the balloon and you

738
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: started feeling in twenty ten is when it all started

739
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Speaker 5: to kind of go wrong in the state, and you

740
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Speaker 5: could just feel it on the ground. What's happening, and

741
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Speaker 5: I think it's happening in other states like Iowa's really interesting.

742
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Speaker 5: I think also Iowa, you see, they're kind of getting

743
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Speaker 5: buyer's remorse. We've had a Republican government for so long

744
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Speaker 5: in this state, Like I said, I mean except for

745
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Speaker 5: four years, since nineteen ninety, every governor has been Republican,

746
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Speaker 5: except for four years. That people are saying, you know what,

747
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 5: we are getting screwed, and at what point in time

748
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Speaker 5: do we need to start holding the people accountable that

749
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Speaker 5: are actually running this state.

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Speaker 3: So there's just a lot of buyer's remort. We did

751
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Speaker 3: two polls against Maxi Miller.

752
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Speaker 5: We were winning in both of them, one by two points,

753
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Speaker 5: one by four points. And what was surprising was not

754
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 5: that the Democrats were voting for me. It was how

755
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 5: many Republicans and independents were saying, Okay, I finally had enough.

756
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Speaker 3: I just think we're at a tipping point.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because I'm thinking about the Bernie Marino Senate

758
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Speaker 1: race from the twenty four cycle, and like it really

759
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Speaker 1: did from the outside. Remember I'm not in Oha, but

760
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Speaker 1: from the outside it certainly seemed as if Bernie had

761
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Speaker 1: been like crypto had come in and just been like,

762
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Speaker 1: no more Sharon Brown. Bernie Marino's our man. And like

763
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Speaker 1: when you hear him, he seems real sleazy compared to Sharon. Right.

764
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not friends with him, but I know

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Speaker 1: him a little, and like he seems pretty folksy and

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Speaker 1: Bernie seems really sleezy. Like it seemed like Shared might

767
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Speaker 1: be able to hold on to seat. You think there's

768
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Speaker 1: remorse there? I mean, do people talk to you about

769
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Speaker 1: that at all?

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Speaker 5: Well, twenty twenty four was a really crazy political year here,

771
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Speaker 5: and I'll tell you why. First of all, your instinct, right,

772
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Speaker 5: I mean, Shared Brown has had a long, long relationship,

773
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Speaker 5: I mean goes back into the eighties with the voters,

774
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Speaker 5: and he's always been somebody that can can it, talks

775
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Speaker 5: like a regular person. And Bernie Marino I don't think

776
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Speaker 5: has that ability at all.

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Speaker 1: But he owned car dealerships, right, He's a.

778
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Speaker 5: Car dealership guy, and I don't think people knew what

779
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Speaker 5: his background was.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing.

781
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Speaker 5: Over sixty percent of the ads, and if you lived

782
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Speaker 5: in Ohio you saw this. Over sixty percent of the

783
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Speaker 5: ads that Bernie Marino ran were negative ads against Shared Brown.

784
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Speaker 3: And it was almost always on one issue. You want

785
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Speaker 3: to guess what it was trans in sports exactly.

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Speaker 5: You could not turn on a television here without somebody saying,

787
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Speaker 5: I just can't vote for Shared Brown again because I

788
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Speaker 5: don't think that men should be playing on women's basketball teams.

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Speaker 1: Insane.

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Speaker 5: It was the ultimate distraction operation, and it was I'm

791
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Speaker 5: telling you, it was overwhelming. And there's all this bullshit

792
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Speaker 5: going on where the super PACs, as you said, the

793
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Speaker 5: crypto industry and so forth, they were running the same ads.

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Speaker 3: Right, Supposedly these are independent, but that's all bullshit.

795
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Speaker 5: They clearly are coordinating, and it was just absolutely overwhelming.

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Speaker 5: The question is when you're living your daily life and

797
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 5: you can see that your life did not get better

798
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 5: because of all those commercials, and you're actually still struggling

799
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Speaker 5: to make it. You don't have gas, that's a dollar fifty,

800
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Speaker 5: it's four bucks. At what point do you in time

801
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Speaker 5: do you say, you know what, I got conned by this?

802
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 5: And I think we are getting Some people are going

803
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Speaker 5: to be conned and they're never going to figure it out.

804
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Speaker 3: But I do think a lot of people have figured

805
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Speaker 3: it out.

806
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Speaker 1: Have you had people say to you like, have we

807
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: got conned?

808
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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely.

809
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Speaker 5: And the other part of a winning an election is

810
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Speaker 5: that your own base has to be motivated, and our

811
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 5: base is I mean, look they said, listen, we thought

812
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 5: think terrible things were going to happen. We didn't know

813
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Speaker 5: it was going to be this terrible. I mean, every

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Speaker 5: single day, I have a line that I always tell

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Speaker 5: these tell these town halls.

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Speaker 3: What do we do them? I say.

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Speaker 5: I used to say I had to check my phone,

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Speaker 5: you know, the morning of the town hall to make

819
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Speaker 5: sure it's something crazy. Now I have to check it

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Speaker 5: five minutes before.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And there's just this sense that the country is slipping

823
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Speaker 5: out of control. So I think the combination of buyer's

824
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Speaker 5: remorse plus a motivated base adds up to Max Miller

825
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Speaker 5: taking an early retirement.

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Speaker 1: Today is a really good example of you. Donald Trump

827
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Speaker 1: threatened to basically just blow up all of Iran. Not

828
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Speaker 1: entirely clear why he decided to do that today, but

829
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Speaker 1: it certainly feels like we are a country run by

830
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Speaker 1: Matt King who has very little accountability. Congress out of

831
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Speaker 1: office for the holiday because God to have spring break.

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Speaker 1: When you're talking to people, do they sort of remember

833
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Speaker 1: what government looks like that we've been in this thing

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Speaker 1: for a decade.

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Speaker 3: It depends how old they are. Yeah, I'll give you example.

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Speaker 5: So my kids, I've got four kids, they're my youngest

837
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Speaker 5: is twenty six. Okay, so my daughter Bridget is twenty six.

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Speaker 5: She doesn't really you know, her last ten years of

839
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Speaker 5: her life and all of her adult life as a

840
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 5: citizen who can vote right, has all been about this madness.

841
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Speaker 5: So one thing that I am worried about is we

842
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 5: do have young people show up at the town halls.

843
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Speaker 5: But even if you look at No King's Day, which

844
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Speaker 5: we had some great No King's Day protests here, it

845
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 5: still was an older crowd. Because I think a lot

846
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 5: of people that are on the younger side have said

847
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 5: this is soft up, that maybe it can never work again,

848
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 5: because these are people a lot of times that barely

849
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 5: remember Barack Obama. I know that sounds crazy, but if

850
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 5: you're young enough, you don't really remember that or that's

851
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 5: part of your childhood, and all they've seen is this dysfunction.

852
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Speaker 5: And those are the hardest questions to answer, I'll tell

853
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Speaker 5: you at town hall. I mean, look, I don't know

854
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: when this is going to air, but yesterday I saw

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Speaker 5: the president basically promising war crimes while standing next to

856
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Speaker 5: the easter bunny.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's surreal.

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Speaker 5: So you get to a point where you're like, look,

859
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Speaker 5: I get it, while why you're so cynical and you

860
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 5: don't think that things can work. So I always tell people, look,

861
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Speaker 5: I don't want to over promise. I do think Democrats

862
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 5: are going to take back Congress, and then we are

863
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 5: in for two more crazy years until these assholes are

864
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Speaker 5: totally out of office, because it's.

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Speaker 3: Never going to be normal while they're there.

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Speaker 5: That may not be an uplifting message, but I'm trying

867
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Speaker 5: to be straight with people, and I tell people one

868
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Speaker 5: of the reasons I think I'm a good candidate is

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Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of stuff politically. I've done a

870
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Speaker 5: lot of things in my career. I thought i'd seen

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Speaker 5: the worst of the worst. Well, these people are the

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Speaker 5: worst of the worst, and we're not going to get

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Speaker 5: rid of them just because we have a good election

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Speaker 5: this year. We've got to buckle up and get ready

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Speaker 5: for two more crazy years at Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 1: When it's the.

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Speaker 5: Primary primary is on May fifth, and actually early voting

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Speaker 5: starts on April.

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Speaker 1: Seventh, Is it a crowded field.

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Speaker 3: It's a crowded field.

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Speaker 5: But look a few years ago the Democratic Party had

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Speaker 5: to scramble to find somebody to run in this district.

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Speaker 5: And now there's all kinds of people running. But I

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Speaker 5: think it looks pretty good for us. But we'll see

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Speaker 5: what We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll come back.

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Speaker 3: Banks appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: No moment, Rick Wilson, Hey, Molly, it always must be

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Speaker 1: that if there is a moment of fucker ey, it

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Speaker 1: is somehow tied to Trump corruption. And if it's Trump

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Speaker 1: corruption and it's attacking your enemy, is in a very

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Speaker 1: well be fancy rich by friend of Trumps.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So a guy that most of us don't pay

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Speaker 4: a ton of attention to except you and I, of course,

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Speaker 4: named Bill Paulty. Inside the administration, he is a huge

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Speaker 4: friend of the president. He runs the Federal Housing Finance Agency,

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Speaker 4: which is the group that's been responsible for quote unquote

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Speaker 4: finding these bullshit mortgage fraud accusations against Tis James and

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Speaker 4: who god knows who else. Right, they've all turned out

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Speaker 4: to be nothing burgers. But he is an eager Trump

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Speaker 4: asked Kitter of the highest degree, and now Finance can

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Speaker 4: has found out that Paulty gave sixty five thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: to a charity Aham called One World love LLC.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing. One World love LLC was built by

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Speaker 4: one of the partners at the Banal Law Group, the

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Speaker 4: benal Banal Bi n All. But the way it sounds

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Speaker 4: is the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Michael Wolfe said, I say banal things on television.

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Speaker 4: You know what. Michael wolf has thousands of emails I know,

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Speaker 4: and you don't. So there you're go, yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Keep going.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, this was during a period of time where they

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Speaker 4: were paying Banal Law Group. Trump owed them jillions of

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Speaker 4: dollars and this looked like a charitable payment or charitable deduction,

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Speaker 4: but it turns out it was just to pay Trump's

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Speaker 4: fucking legal bills. These people are so shady. And now,

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Speaker 4: since this was a five oh one C three, mister Polti,

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Speaker 4: who apparently is a stickler for the rules, because everybody's

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Speaker 4: mortgages have to be examined with a fine tooth, call

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Speaker 4: miss party maybe entering the finding out territory. Oh, it's

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Speaker 4: not always the big corruption. I mean, sixty five thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars in Trump corruption money is like nothing. But I

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Speaker 4: mean it's still the point. It's the point. Rick Wilson,

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Speaker 4: Molly John Fast I'll see you next week.

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