1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: How to everyone. It's Saturday morning, and this is your 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: weekly Selects episode aka Stuff You Should Know reruns handcrafted 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: and curated by me, Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and my 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: lovely and handsome co host Joshua Clark. This week, I 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: am on the hook for this one, and so I'm 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: going to pick how coffins work. From May thirtieth, twenty thirteen. 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: I feel like we kind of came down a little 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: bit hard on the funerary industry on this one. These 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: coffins are expensive. Boy, oh boy, who wants to pay 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: that kind of money once you're dead? Not me to 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: grind me up and plant me as a tree or something, 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: or maybe just throw me on the woods and let 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: the worms take care of it at any rate. That's 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: my journey, not yours. I don't want to yuck anyone's yum. 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: If you want a big, fancy mahogany coffin, go for it. 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: The podcast is going to teach you all about him. 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: Please enjoy. Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast on Josh Clark. There's 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and this is Stuff you Should 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: know the podcast. 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: That's right. 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: This is part of our ongoing death Sweet, which is sweet. 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. We've covered death a lot because death is multifaceted, 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: sure you know. And this reminded me of the I 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: guess we covered green burial not in its own podcast 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: yet and like different ways to what to do with 28 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: the dead body. There you go, That's what I thought 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: it was into. 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: But I'm surprised we didn't do a podcast dedicated just 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: to that. 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: Maybe we should. Yeah, I looked up because I'm interested 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: in that for myself. And there are some lovely places 34 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: right outside Atlanta. 35 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: To be buried Greenley, Yeah, where you can just. 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: Be wrapped in a shroud and buried in the field, 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: which ripped to death by coyotes. 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: Left in a field. 39 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: They don't leave you, no, well they bury you in 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: a shallow grade. 41 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: Oh okay for the coyotes to come get you. 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: No, they said they don't have a problem with that. 43 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: But I'm not one of those people that cares about that. 44 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, about what happens to your body, Like I would 45 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: do a sky burial. 46 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: That wouldn't bother me for vultures to pick me apart, 47 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: Like use the body if it would feed an animal. 48 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: Great, why not donate it to science. 49 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I'll do that. I'm not precious about that 50 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: my body after death. I'm not precious about my body 51 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: in life. Why start then, exactly? Yeah, that's funny. Yeah. 52 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: So anyway, Well, a shroud does kind of technically count 53 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: as a coffin chuck, Yeah, back in the day if 54 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: you didn't have a lot of money. 55 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: Right, or if you're into being picked apart by coyotes. 56 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: Right. 57 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 2: But the whole point of a coffin, or what constitutes 58 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: a coffin is it provides a barrier between the body 59 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: and the ground. Yeah, and technically a shroud does that. 60 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: It's a really, really poor coffin. Yeah, but that's the 61 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: whole point. It's that the body is encapsulated in something 62 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: that just dropping a body into a grave is undignified. 63 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 2: You might say even cremating a body without some form 64 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: or fashion of a coffin is considered undignified. And you'll 65 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: be hard pressed to find a crematorium that will let 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 2: you just put your loved one on the conveyor belt 67 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: and let them just kind of flop lifelessly toward the flames. 68 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they flop. 69 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: I mean, if they're jostled, they're gonna flop. Okay, yeah, 70 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: especially after Rigger's done. 71 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: The coffin the word coffin. We're not gonna do any 72 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: Merriam Webster stuff because that's who would start an article like. 73 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: That or do it six times in an article. 74 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: But we will say we'd like to give root words. 75 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: And of course Greek and Latin are involved here with 76 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: the Greek koffinos and Latin koffin uts. M h. They're 77 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: always like, oh yeah, I'll change that kto a C 78 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: and that O too a. 79 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: U, and no one will ever even remember the Greeks 80 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: happen exactly. 81 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: So that's where the word coffin came from. But here 82 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: in the United States we generally refer to that vessel 83 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: as a casket, whereas in places like England and Australia 84 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Great Britain and Australia they might say coffin, 85 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: even though a lot of people here think that's like 86 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: a word you shouldn't use. 87 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, their casket still means a place to keep 88 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: your valuables. 89 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: Right right, your bubbles right yeah. 90 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Here in the US, if you go to a funeral 91 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: directorium also called a funeral home. You're going to find 92 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: that they'd never use the word coffin. 93 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: No, and you know it's pretty subtle, but the language 94 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: is definitely. They don't say, uh, we'd love to pick 95 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: out for you to pick out a coffin for your 96 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: husband's dead body, and then we'll dig a grave over 97 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: there and put it in the ground. Wah that we'll 98 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: say things like we would like you to pick out 99 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: a casket for your husband and. 100 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: From our display area, from the display. 101 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Area, and we will take you there in the casket coach, 102 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: not a hearse, and and place him in the internment space, 103 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: which is not. 104 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: A grave opened, and then we'll close afterward, rather than 105 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: filling or digging the grave. 106 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: They don't say words like digging and ground. 107 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: Basically anything that brings to mind the guy from Phantasm. 108 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 109 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: Those the funeral industry avoids those words. 110 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. And of course we've ruined six feet under and 111 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: the Fisher and Sons the boys such a great Yoh, 112 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: Michael always did such a great job of, you know, 113 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: being the proper funeral director and using all the all 114 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: the words that you should use, like casket. 115 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: He's good at it. And then he turned into a 116 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 2: serial killer. 117 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: No, well, dexter. 118 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there actually is a distinction beyond where you 119 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: live with the word casket in coffin. Sure, there's a 120 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: slight difference. Shape, Yeah, it's it's all. It's basically shape. 121 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: A casket is a long rectangle and the top is 122 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: usually split, so you can know that's a coffin. That's 123 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: a casket. 124 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a casket. Coffin is the hexagonal a 125 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: hexagonal box. Yeah, and that you know, back in the 126 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: day he had the old pine box. Actually a lot 127 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: of those were just rectangular, but some were you know, 128 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: had that familiar sort of keyhole shape. 129 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: Well, back in the day, in the nineteenth century, the 130 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: person who was responsible for carrying out your funeral services 131 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: and building your coffin was usually the local carpenter, and 132 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: he undertook your funeral service, hence the word undertaker from 133 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: what I understand, Yeah, but it was usually somebody who 134 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: built wagons and kitchens and whatever. They also built coffins too, 135 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: and they built them to suit. 136 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: That sounded to me like our first casket. Fact. Well done, Chuck, wow, Yeah, 137 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: thank you Jerry for going the extra mile there. 138 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: And if you like that, you're going to love this 139 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: episode because this place is lousy with casket facts. 140 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we won't play the sound effect on this one. 141 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: But I thought another interesting fact, because you know, I 142 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: like origins of phrases and things. If someone casts a 143 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: Pall over a room, yeah, a Paul was actually a 144 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: dark cloth that they would put over the casket to 145 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: I guess cover, you know, block out the bad juju 146 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: of having the dead body in there. Right, So you 147 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: would cast a Paul over the casket. 148 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Or if you're me, you cast a Paul over 149 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: any room you enter. That's fun, no fun anymore, everybody 150 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: can Can we talk a little bit about the funeral 151 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: industry for a second. Yeah, about the casket industry, I 152 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: should say specifically, there's still some furniture companies that make 153 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: caskets on the side, like Lazy Boy. 154 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 155 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if Lazy Boy does it, but there's 156 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: they represent a very small shit of the casket that's an. 157 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: Ultimate lazy boy. You know your forever chair. 158 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: Right exactly. Well, they actually have caskets for those people. 159 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: It's called Goliath Caskets. Oversized Caskets, Order Oversized Caskets dot com. 160 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: Huh. Anyway, of course, there's someone that does that, because 161 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: that's a common thing. You know, caskets aren't you know 162 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: some people of girth. Sure, that's pretty embarrassing, you know, 163 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: when you can't fit in your casket. 164 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: Right, And I went and looked, and these are very 165 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 2: dignified caskets. 166 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: They're just larger. 167 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: They're for the larger person. 168 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: Double widse. Wow. 169 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: There's also uh okay, so one of the largest casket makers, Batesville, 170 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: originally started out as. 171 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: A furniture company. 172 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: So there's like this whole origin of yeah, I'll build 173 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: your chair and I'll build your coffin for your uncle too. 174 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: That makes sense, it's carpentry. 175 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then that's kind of the way it went. 176 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: There were some some groups that started to consolidate and 177 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: just make caskets around the late the turn of the 178 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: twentieth century, the beginning of the twentieth century, and you know, 179 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: that was fine. They kind of created the industry. And 180 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: then it was like the fifties after the Korean War, 181 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: when metal caskets became like all a rage. 182 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that was mod looking and that was popular 183 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: at the time. It was. 184 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: And you'll also find in the funeral industry it was 185 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: easy to subtly exploit the grieving out of their money. 186 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: There it was very cheap to mass produce metal caskets, 187 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: and so they were sold, sold, sold, There was a 188 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: huge profit margin with them, and I think by the 189 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: seventies half of all caskets were metal. 190 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, because what better way to protect your loved 191 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: one from the elements and the harsh afterlife that they 192 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: may encounter than with a good old solid metal in casing, 193 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: yes exactly, which also happens to be have greater profit margins, 194 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: and it's cheaper to produce, so. 195 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: It is it's cheaper to mass produce the other aspect 196 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: of a metal coffin. In the rise of the metal coffin, 197 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: it changed the casket making industry because it's really expensive 198 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: to get into metal coffin making. Apparently it costs about 199 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: a million dollars just for the dies to make a 200 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: standard metal coffin, just for the dies alone. So this 201 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: kind of consolidated the industry down to fewer and fewer 202 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: companies that were making metal caskets, so it became a 203 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: real industry at that point. And then ultimately the casket 204 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: industry started to suffer and decline thanks to advances in 205 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: medicine there were fewer deaths, so their profits. 206 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: Dropped or the revenue dropped. 207 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: And then starting in the eighties, people said, you know what, 208 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: maybe cremation isn't so bad, right, And so in nineteen 209 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: eighty five, I think fifteen percent of people opted for cremation, 210 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: and then by two thousand, I think, no, twenty eleven, 211 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: it's like forty five percent. Oh really, yeah, and every 212 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: time somebody gets cremated, the coffin industry dies a little bit. 213 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, although you know, like you said, you can still 214 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: have a casket to be cremated in I know, we 215 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: covered this in the Cremation podcast. 216 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you have to, like you can't find somebody 217 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 2: who just let your. 218 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,359 Speaker 1: But that can be super cheap. Like sometimes it's even cardboard. 219 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: Well it's supposed to because it's got to burn. 220 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean at the very least wood will 221 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: also burn. But you can you can spend a little 222 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: bit more money, or you can get a temporary encasing, 223 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: an outer encasing that is more attractive to show the family. 224 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: And then when push comes to shove, they shove. They 225 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: remove the outer casket and shove. Yeah, you in. 226 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: It's like a rental casket just for the service. 227 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and it can actually rent caskets period, like 228 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: even if you aren't being cremated, just for a more 229 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: showy experience and then they'll, you know, then you get 230 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: the pine box treatment, right because nobody loves you. Yeah, 231 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: and it's expensive, man, people, a lot of people don't 232 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: have the money to pay for a big funeral, and 233 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: it's a lot of people really believe in that kind 234 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: of thing. Is really sad for them, you know, it is. 235 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: Luckily there's such a thing as Walmart and Costco. Both 236 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: of them sell caskets. Walmart has a casket for eleven 237 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: ninety nine one ninety nine dollars, it's the Lady of 238 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: Our Lady of Guadalupe casket model. And then Costco Yeah okay, 239 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: and then Costco has the same same model for one 240 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: hundred bucks more. 241 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: Really. 242 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised that it's not exactly the same. 243 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: But it's nice to see that the big box retailers 244 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: aren't price fixing coffins. 245 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great to see Walmart's on coffins. 246 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: But I mean it's like that, you if you need 247 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: a coffin and they're attractive looking coffins, I think they're fiberglass. 248 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: Have you ever laid down in a coffin? Probably not, 249 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't either. I would just to see 250 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: what it felt like. They look compy. 251 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: Did you see the thing about the six feet Under 252 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 2: Club in San Francisco? There is a club where it's like, hey, 253 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: you and your partner, life part swinging partner, shartner, whatever 254 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: you yeah, your sex partner. 255 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: Let's just call it what it is. 256 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: Can Wright can come lay down in our coffin and 257 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: will bury you and you guys can do it, and 258 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: we are going to watch you on a night vision 259 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 2: webcam that's going to be projected on the walls of 260 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: the club above versus San Francisco, San Francisco six Feet 261 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: Under Club, and you can email and reserve a space 262 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: in their coffin. 263 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: Huh is there? I mean, is there any room in 264 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: the coffin this preak. 265 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: I'd imagine it would have to be a larger, but 266 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: maybe a goliath coffin double one? 267 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, huh, Well I will never do that, but it's 268 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: interesting to know it's out there. It is out there 269 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: in San Franciscos, like knowing my options. Well, let's talk 270 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: about the anatomy of a coffin, chuckers h. Well, you know, 271 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: the most important thing, of course, is that it is 272 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: a barrier too, from the body to the you know, 273 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: the elements. No one, Actually I don't care, like I 274 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: already said, but most people, most normal people don't want 275 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: to think about their loved ones bodies like decaying and 276 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: being eaten by you know, being worm dirt. But one 277 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: thing they cannot tell you is that it's illegal to 278 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: say that we have a casket that will permanently seal 279 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: the body, Like it's against the law to claim any 280 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: sort of permanence, even if it's one of these new 281 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: gasket coffins. What are those called. It's called a protective coffin, yeah, 282 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: which actually has a rubber gasket, so it sealed much tighter. 283 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: But they still legally can't say like it'll protect them forever. 284 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: Right, because it will protect them from the elements. But 285 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: there is such a thing as decay, like your body's 286 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: going to decay in the nothingness. And apparently, I guess 287 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: the funeral industry was selling coffins based on the idea 288 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: that the body was going to survive forever. Yeah, and 289 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: with this impermeable seal that the protective coffins had. I 290 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: mean it wasn't letting anything in, but it also wasn't 291 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: letting anything out, which is a problem. And in an 292 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: air tight environment, anaerobic bacteria gets to work and as 293 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: they start putrefying the flesh, they expel methane gas as 294 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: a byproduct. And there's this thing called exploding coffin syndrome, 295 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: which was most apparent in mausoleums, where a coffin would 296 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: just blow up, and sometimes they would blow up so 297 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: much that it would blow the mausoleum door open. Yeah, 298 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: like a huge methane explosion from the gas built up 299 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: from the decaying corpse in this protective coffin. So now 300 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: they have ones that that don't let anything in, but 301 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: they burp gas out. 302 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're called burping coffins, which is a great name 303 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: for a coffin. 304 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but so is exploding casket syndrome. 305 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Boy, could you imagine being a cemetery worker and 306 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: seeing a mausoleum door explode wide open? Yeah, you're just 307 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: like seeing it. Oh, I would quit my job that day. 308 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: So it depends on where you are in the world. 309 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: What you're going to get with your with your coffin 310 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: and with regulations, you know, and less developed countries. Obviously 311 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: they're less regulated. You could still be wrapped in a 312 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: shroud in some parts of the world. 313 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: Right here in the US, in the West, they're basically 314 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: public health regulations, which is why that that place for 315 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: the green burial is designated a green burial place. 316 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm sure. 317 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: You the body won't come in contact with the groundwater, 318 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: I think is what they're trying to keep from happening. 319 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was in their fac Yeah. 320 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: So that's pretty much the whole public health regulation, and 321 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: it's gotten to the point where most most people are 322 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: buried with cement encasement around them, right. 323 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: Oh, is that what they do these days? I think so. Yeah, 324 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: I think I knew that. 325 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: Actually, it's so funny, like we're all still six year 326 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: olds at our court. 327 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: It's like, ewe, dead body. Gross. I can't let that 328 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: get into the water. Yeah, that stuff doesn't bother me. 329 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: You gets bodies, no not. I wouldn't want to drink 330 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: a dead body now, but seeing one, I mean, I'm 331 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: the guy who poked a head floating in a bucket, 332 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, in the hospital that way. Yeah, yeah, I 333 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: forgot about that story. I didn't poke it, but I 334 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: mentally poked it. It didn't bother me. If you are 335 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: in the Western world, you're probably gonna be dealing with 336 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: wood or metal or fiberglass. If you live out in 337 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: the desert, they may use things like local products like 338 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: clay or stone, which is kind of interesting. I guess 339 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: we got a lot of wood here in the United 340 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: States though. Particle board yep. And like we mentioned the sad, 341 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: sad cardboard cremation vessel. 342 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: Right, which, again, if you're being cremated, you probably don't care. 343 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was also up for cremation, and then I thought, 344 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, is there anything that's in the green 345 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: burial seems like a good option. 346 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: Sure, just become one with the dirt. 347 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: Maybe, but I like the idea being scattered as well. 348 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: Or again helping somebody helping other people. 349 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they'll still like if you donate your body 350 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: to science, did they not give you any sort of like. 351 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: No, you can't be EMBALMD or anything. I guess you 352 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: probably could if like, say you're going to the body farm. 353 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: You wouldn't be able to be INBALMD. Sure, and I'm. 354 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: Sure there's like memorial services but I don't as I 355 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: understand it. That's another thing that's eating into the casket 356 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: industry's profits is body donation. Hey man, I think this 357 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: is a perfect time to have a message break from 358 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 2: our sponsor agreed, which means our jingle. 359 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: Fish. All right, So I think this is actually a 360 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: great time for a second casket. Fact. 361 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 2: Oh, I like these already. 362 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: All right. Back in the day, in the early nineteenth century, 363 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: that was sort of a they called it a grave 364 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: body snatching period, and people were into snatching up bodies, 365 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: digging up graves, exhooming people, if you will, and basically 366 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: selling bodies for money for medical research. It was a 367 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: way to make a buck or doing research on your own. 368 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: Medical College of Georgia was they found dozens of skeletons. 369 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: I was like, I think it was one hundreds, dozens 370 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 2: of skeletons of people who were dismembered, and they figured 371 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: out that all of them had been stolen from graves. 372 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, of course that wasn't in the 373 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: early nineteenth century, was it. 374 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: It was in the nineteenth century, Now, it was early, 375 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 2: but it was. 376 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: It was in the nineteenth So they developed something well, 377 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: various things to you know, protect bodies like locked mausoleums 378 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: and vaults, and then something I think it's kind of 379 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: eat called a mort safe, which is basically an iron 380 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: cage put over the coffin. It's like sunk into concrete. 381 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: It's like what people used to protect their air conditioners today. Yeah, exactly, 382 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 2: but over like a grave. 383 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: So that that was a mort safe and that kept 384 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: people out. They had guards, sometimes staffed guards. 385 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: I think the money the caretaker doubles as a guard, 386 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: but they had people who they hired as guards would 387 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: protect a specific grave. 388 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: I think if you had enough dough, wow, you could 389 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: have like, you know, the mausoleum with a guard. That's 390 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: pretty cool. And that's you know, that's if you're rich 391 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: and wealthy. 392 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: They were also if you weren't wealthy. The other way 393 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: to thwart grave robbers was to put heavy planks, yeah, 394 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: to backfill the grave with rocks instead of dirt, which 395 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: might not have kept somebody out, but they would have 396 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: made quite a bit of noise digging you up. Sure, 397 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: and uh yeah, have you ever been to Oakland Cemetery? 398 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I go all the time, Well not all 399 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: the time, but I go. It is BEAUTIFU couple of 400 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: times a year. Yeah, you me and I went and 401 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: just did like this, just walked around. Yeah, like there's 402 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: some there's some mausoleums there that like there's no way 403 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: you could have gotten into. Yeah, for those people that 404 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: haven't been to Atlanta, that is what our probably oldest 405 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: and like most famous cemetery. Yeah, it is our Parade 406 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: de la Che. 407 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 2: It's a yes, it's our Nicholas. 408 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: I've been to that one too, actually, the one in Paris, 409 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: what Parade de Lache? Oh is it the one with 410 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: Jim Morrison. Yeah, of course nice, And I think Oscar 411 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: Wilde is there and Chopin Well, but you know, Morrison's 412 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: the one that you go by and there's like joints 413 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: on the ground and like tabs of acid and stuff, 414 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: and then you always see like the random guy kind 415 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: of hanging out like waiting for everyone to turn their back, 416 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of dirty hippies, basically. 417 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: Jackets give me a break. 418 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: In Ghana and other parts of Africa, it is kind 419 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: of cool because they will they have a very sort 420 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: of a joyous way of celebrating death with their bright 421 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: colored coffins and even odd shapes that would pay honor 422 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: to what this person loved in life. I saw one 423 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: that was like a giant shoe and this sky, this 424 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: this Attacan dude was just like, you know, it must 425 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: have been as relative and he was just so proud 426 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: to show that they were bearing him in a giant shoe. 427 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: So it's like it's like to the dead in Ghana, 428 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: what a pinata. 429 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: Is to like a kid in Mexico. 430 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, they have like pinanas that are like shaped 431 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: for they're like different specific Yeah. 432 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not always just a kooka burro. 433 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: No, Okay, there's like's a hello and like really yeah, yeah, 434 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 2: there's there's some great piontas out there. 435 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: And then the other example they gave in here is 436 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: like if it was a businessman, he might be buried 437 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: in something that resembled his luxury car, Yeah, I saw. 438 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: Or a fisherman, it might be a fish shaped coffin. 439 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: The fish finally got him back. 440 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: He's in the belly of it. 441 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: So, Chuck, you mentioned things that coffins may be made 442 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: out of. Yeah, you mentioned like wood, fiberglass. 443 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: Elm oak, hardywoods. 444 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: Bronze is still used on occasion. Yeah, sure, And that's 445 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: the shell of the coffin. Yeah, and then the inside 446 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 2: you'll find the lining, usually some sort of rich fabric 447 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: like taffeta or velvet or something that looks like that. 448 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: Maybe valure if they like juicy clothes that. 449 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: Kind of thing, Yeah, silk maybe, Yeah. 450 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: And it's stuffed with batting, yeah, to keep the corpse 451 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: nice and comfortable. Sure, And that's pretty much it. You've 452 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: got hardware on the outside, and that's a casket. 453 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably gonna be warm colors here in the 454 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: Western world. Old, it's not Ghana. You're not gonna see 455 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: a lot of like brightly painted coffins and stuff like that. 456 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: No, but also they kind of avoid like you're probably 457 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: I can see a black coffin anywhere. 458 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 459 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: Those are called receding colors. They're they're dismal and of 460 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: desperation and despair. 461 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen a lot of like light 462 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: gray and things like that. Yeah, or just wood color. 463 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: If you get like a really nice wood, like cherry, 464 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: sometimes it'll just be in that, you know, that'll be 465 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: the outer shell. 466 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: Right, And those are pricy, yes, they are. As a 467 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: matter of fact, the average cost of a funeral in 468 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: the US in two thousand and nine was six five 469 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty, which was less than I thought. 470 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: I think a green barrel is about half that. 471 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that. 472 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: I think they're like two or three grand. 473 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 2: Because the coffin in that average funeral was two two 474 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety five dollars the average cost of a 475 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 2: metal coffin in two thousand and nine, which in two 476 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 2: thousand and seven, funeral homes and crematories pulled in eleven 477 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 2: point nine five billion dollars, and one of the ways 478 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: they pulled in that much was from cost casket sales. 479 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know if we even should say 480 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: this out loud, because it sounds like an unfounded accusation 481 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: that cheap coffins are purposely made ugly so they can upsell. Yeah, 482 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: do you think that's true? Ah, that's probably true. 483 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: Well, I know I've read that the funeral home industry 484 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: marks up caskets that they buy. They resell them for 485 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: up to five Yeah, more than they paid for them. 486 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: Well, it's a business, and that's their product, you know 487 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: it is. 488 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: It's a business in the the customers are in a 489 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: really really uh easily exploited place. 490 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't know though, I just think 491 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: it is a business, and because it deals with death, 492 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: it's very easy for someone to say, like, you're exploiting 493 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: these people or taking advantage of them when they're I 494 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: just don't think that's true. It's not. 495 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: I think that you can't cast that net across the 496 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: entire industry. 497 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: I think that that's that's sure. There's some shysters s, 498 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: but they're also for everybody. Yeah, you know, bad apples, Josh. Well, 499 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, we have a lot of opulence here in 500 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: the United States. Some people get into that, but apparently 501 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: in Australia and Great Britain they're a little more reserved 502 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: with what they'll spend on a casket. In some cultures, 503 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: like the Jewish faith, it's very common to to not 504 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: have any sort of garish thing. They want you to 505 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: be buried in something very plain, so you're not distinguished 506 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: as to your place in life, you know. 507 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently they'll even the hardware that they used to 508 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: carry now is removable, so like. 509 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: When you're buried, you're buried in a plane box. 510 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that, that's yeah, that's cool. You want 511 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: to talk about the bow people. 512 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: The hanging coffins of the bow not to. 513 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: Be confused with the Hell of the upside down centers 514 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: in Big Trouble in Little China, right, although this is 515 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: in Sechuan Province of China. 516 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 517 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: The Bo people are an ethnic group that populated the area, 518 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: and they have this really neat tradition of putting the 519 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 2: coffins of their deceased up on like three hundred foot cliffs. Yeah, 520 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: just craigs, little caves, and for centuries, no one has 521 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 2: had any idea how they got them up there. 522 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, at one point they head close to three hundred 523 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: Now it's only about one hundred and three hundred and 524 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: fifty to four hundred feet. And you've seen did you 525 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: see pictures? Yeah, it's crazy. I mean they're like, I 526 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: don't see how they did it. They think now they 527 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: might have lowered them down, but they still you know 528 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: that they're on it looks like they're on wood planks 529 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: that are sticking out of the cliffs. So how they 530 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: do that, Yeah, I can't figure it out. It's pretty neat. 531 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: It's like a little village of coffins is kind of 532 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: clustered on this cliff side. 533 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, with the idea that having your relatives higher up 534 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: is a place of greater respect to be looking up 535 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: at them, because that's where the deities were, at the 536 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: tops of mountains, and that would place them closer to 537 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: the deities. 538 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: Yes, you go up here now, yeah, because you're dead. 539 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting. 540 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 2: What about the Egyptians, They had the money coffins if 541 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: you ask me. 542 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we covered this with Tutt obviously, the big 543 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: sarcopha guy. But they didn't they believe that you would 544 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: just be sent to your you know, all this stuff 545 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: would go with you. 546 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you needed in your afterlife for your journey to 547 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: the after world, the underworld, and I guess the whole 548 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 2: it was the opposite of what the Jews think. 549 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: It was. 550 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: The more socioeconomic status you can bestow upon a grave, 551 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: the better off the person is going to be in 552 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 2: the next life. Oh, you have a bejeweled casket, right, 553 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: you're you're in our You're okay, in our book. 554 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: But dazzled. Yeah. 555 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: But they actually had texts. What we know called the 556 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: Egyptian Book of the Dead was originally called the It 557 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: grew out of what are called the Egyptian Coffin texts, 558 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: and there were two the Book of the Dead, the 559 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: Coffin Text that became the Book of the Dead was 560 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: for everybody, regardless of your socioeconomic status, and it told 561 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: you how to be buried. And we've done how mummies work, 562 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: so we got into that a lot. Yeah, and that's 563 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: basically what we relied on. But there was also one 564 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: for the Pharaohs, the kings, the elite, and those are 565 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: the pyramid. 566 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: Texts, yes, and that's the one that later evolved to 567 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: the Book of the Dead, right, the Pyramid text. I 568 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: think the Coffin texts, I don't know. Hey, yeah's a 569 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: pyramid text. 570 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pyramid text is separate. That's the one for 571 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: the for the elite. 572 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: Right, and that's what evolved to the Book of the Dead. 573 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: Oh it did, okay, Yeah, but I think what was 574 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: in the Coffin Text was contained within the Pyramid text, right. 575 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Coffin Text was an umbrella, right, 576 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: that gave birth to both. It was the original one 577 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: and it actually had the first described cosmology ever recorded. 578 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: Yes, the Book of Two A's within the Egyptian Coffin 579 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: Text was the first time they basically said here's what 580 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: happens to you after death? Yeah, pretty cool. Could happen 581 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: to you. 582 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: And it's basically you you cross from one part of 583 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: the sky into a lake of fire and then across 584 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: into another part of this s guy. 585 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the coffin texts have spells and things to 586 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: help you out as well in your journey. 587 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: Like check out my bejeweled casket. I'm okay in your book, O, Chuck. 588 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: We couldn't talk about coffins if we didn't talk about 589 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: a really interesting and neat trend of the eighteenth and 590 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: nineteenth century, maybe even seventeenth, but I think eighteenth and 591 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: nineteenth century called safety coffins. 592 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It's a common fear for people to 593 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: it's called the tapaphobia taphophobia, and that's the fear of 594 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: being buried alive. Yeah, and that it's a real thing, 595 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: and people had it then and they have it now. 596 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: Well, they had good reason to have it back then, 597 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: because it happened. 598 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 599 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: There was a book called Premature Burial and How It 600 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: May Be Prevented. It's an eighteen ninety six book by 601 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: a social reformer named William Tebb and a couple of 602 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: co authors. Actually, one of the co authors was a 603 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: doctor who himself had been prematurely buried. 604 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Oh really. 605 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they went over like account after account, and they 606 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: even had a chapter called Dubious Accounts. But they basically 607 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: came up with two hundred and nineteen instances of narrow 608 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: escape from premature burial, one hundred and forty nine cases 609 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: of actual premature burial, ten cases of vivisection before death. 610 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: So the person they thought was dead they started to 611 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: cut open and they weren't dead. 612 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then then six feet under club. 613 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: And then two cases of embalming before death. Wow, so 614 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: like it happened before embalming. It was like there was 615 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: no way to tell you were dead. 616 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess that was the problem. Is 617 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: medical science had advanced to the point where you could 618 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: always tell if someone was dead. 619 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: Exactly, and there was such thing as cholera, which apparently 620 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: gives you the appearance of being dead even when you're not, 621 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: So there was good reason to fear being buried alive. 622 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: And as a resultless thing called the safety coffin came up. 623 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there were I'm sure you've done some other 624 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: research on this. They were all different sorts of methods 625 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: that they had from a vault that had like a 626 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: little window and a wheel you could turn on the 627 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: inside to let yourself out, which would be nice. Sometimes 628 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: it was just a breathing tube. 629 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, the one that was patented in eighteen ninety six 630 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: by a guy named Count Carnice Carniki, which is awesome. 631 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: He had something that was there was a tube with 632 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: a spring going all the way the six feet down 633 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: and there was a little glass ball at the end 634 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: of the tube and it rested on the deceased chest 635 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: and if any movement of the chest happened, like you 636 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: took one breath anything like that, it would trip the 637 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: spring and this passageway would fly open to let air 638 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: in and a flag would rise up above your grade 639 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: they were still alive. So that one was one of 640 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: the most well known safety coffins and actually in premature 641 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: burial and how it may be prevented. There's a whole 642 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: little chapter dedicated to it, and actually you can find 643 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: the full text of that online really for free. It's 644 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: really interesting. 645 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: There were also things that would trigger like a bell ringing. 646 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: One that even had a long fused firecracker that I 647 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: guess you could set off. 648 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that'll get the attention to somebody. 649 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: I guess. 650 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 2: So in that book, Teb and his friends they endorse 651 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: to prevent premature burial, either safety coffin or cremation, whether 652 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 2: like even if you are dead then or even if 653 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: you're not dead, you're gonna be dead afterward. 654 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: So we guarantee you won't be buried alive exactly because 655 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: you'll be creamy. We're not even going to bury the 656 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: ultimate safety coffin. 657 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: And there's this guy named doctor Timothy Clark Smith in 658 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: eighteen ninety three. He died in Middlebury, Vermont, and he's 659 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: buried to this day, which is customary in Evergreen Cemetery. 660 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: And if you go to his burial mound, there's a 661 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: fourteen by fourteen inch of plate glass opens up onto 662 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: what was once his face six feet down. Wow, so 663 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: that people could come check on him and make sure 664 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: he was dead because he had tatophobia and was very 665 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: very much afraid of that fate. 666 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 1: That's got to be tied to claustrophobia somehow. 667 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they think the APA being they think that 668 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: you've had some sort of early childhood encounter with an 669 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: enclosed space yea, and either you developed tafophobia or you 670 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: become the batman. 671 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: Oh, that's their that's their judgment that you know what 672 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: that sounds like. That sounds like a casket. Fact, let's 673 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: hear it, ah man, that sweetenectar. 674 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: Let's see what else. I got a couple more things. 675 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: You got anything else? I got nothing else? 676 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: So you can We said that the average kufsmin is 677 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: like twenty two twenty three hundred dollars. You can also 678 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: shell out thirty thousand dollars, of course you can. Batesville 679 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: Casket Company makes the Promethean and it is the coffin 680 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: that Michael Jackson and James Brown were buried in separately. 681 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: They had their own coffins. 682 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, what's the deal was it? Just like? 683 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: It is nice looking, rich, luxurious like navy velvet interior 684 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 2: lining this it looks it must be gold but polished 685 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: to this high shine. It's a beautiful casket. I have 686 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: to say. There is no reason in the world for 687 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: anyone ever to be buried in a casket like this. 688 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: But it's out there right. If you want to go 689 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: the other way, you can go to di i y 690 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: coffin dot com and there are schematics to build your 691 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 2: own very plain coffin. 692 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: I saw that, I thought about that might be a 693 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: nice thing to. 694 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: Do, build your own coffin that King of the Hill. 695 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 2: There's a King of the where Hank builds his own coffin. 696 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: He's talking about how he started. He's like, well, I 697 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: looked into it and long story short. 698 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: I got the bug. Now he's made. He made, he made. 699 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: His first try was terrible, so he gave that to Peggy. 700 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: And then his second try it's really nice. He's gotten 701 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 2: it down pat and he Peggy gets the one where 702 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: like the top doesn't close all the. 703 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: Way right, That's what mine would look like. 704 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: It's a good episode. 705 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm not a skilled craftsman, but I enjoy it. Yeah. 706 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 2: And then lastly, you mean, I saw Mike Tyson do 707 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 2: his little his little spoken word thing, but we saw 708 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: him d C. It was great, and he talked about 709 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: it was really sweet because I'm really ambivalent about him, 710 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 2: because you know, it's just he's a really there's a lot. 711 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: To him, you know what I'm saying. 712 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: Sure, And but one of the things that he said 713 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 2: he did was his mother was buried in a potter's 714 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: field with an unmarked grave and like a just a 715 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: cheap box. Yeah, and he said the first time he 716 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 2: made money, he had her exhumed and bought like the 717 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: most expensive headstone and the most expensive casket he could find, 718 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: and had her buried in like this other night cemetery. 719 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: It's sweet. Yeah. You know there's a pauper's grave over 720 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: by the drive in movie theater here in Atlanta. Yeah, 721 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: is that right? Yeah, it's just yeah, it's a pauper's 722 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: grave and lots of like bad stuff goes on there 723 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: now apparently what oh like prostitution and stuff like that. 724 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: It's way worse dragging. Yeah, I'm sure some teens are drinking. 725 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 2: That's probably not a good safe place to do that. 726 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't think so. Yeah. 727 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 2: And there's also Potter's Field pauper's grave in Oakland Cemetery. 728 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's basically like a big expanse of grass. Yeah, 729 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 2: a bunch of people who were poor were bearing. 730 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. I did Mount Vernon when I was up there, 731 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: you know George Washington's place. Is it cool? Yeah, it's 732 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: really neat because they still do stuff the old fashioned way. 733 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: You know, like if they need a room painted, they 734 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: grind up dye and mix it with water and that stuff. Wow. 735 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: But you know there is like you know, he and 736 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: Martha are buried in this like beautiful mausoleum, and then 737 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: there's also like the slave you know, grave sites, and 738 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: it's just, you know, definitely like he freed all his 739 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: slaves and his will, which was a good thing to do, 740 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: I guess. But anytime you go to one of those 741 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: plantation type things and you see like the opulence of 742 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: his thing and then this other little side area where 743 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: the slaves are buried, it's just sort of like, yeah, yeah, 744 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: all that happened. That's a sad reminder, it is. And 745 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: no one was visiting like the slave area as much even, 746 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: and I was just sort of like that kind of 747 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: rubbed me a little bit. 748 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: Did you go over there and visit it? 749 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely good for you. Yeah. Nice. So you got 750 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: anything else? I got nothing else. 751 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 2: That's coffins. 752 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: That's coffins. I was going to write this article a 753 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: couple of years ago because it didn't exist, because I 754 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: wanted to do this. 755 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: Oh good, I'm glad it came along. 756 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: I think that's just a lesson kids. If you wait 757 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: around long enough, somebody else might do well. 758 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 2: Then, since Chuck gave wait, I think Chuck, that might 759 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 2: be a casket backed. 760 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: What is that the last casket back? All right? 761 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: Okay, well since we had our last casket fact. Oh yeah, 762 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: I gotta say. If you want to read this article 763 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: on coffins, you can go to HowStuffWorks dot com and 764 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: you can type in that word c F F I 765 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: N in the search bar, and that means it's time 766 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: now for listener mail. 767 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: Josh, I'm gonna call this very manipulative email from a 768 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: Georgia tech fan. Here we go, Peter in Virginia, he 769 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: knows it's coming. I want to tell you, guys how 770 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: your podcast made a difference in my life. I recently 771 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: found out that I have diffuse large B cell lymphoma. 772 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: As a part of the testing process to determine what 773 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: stage you are, they shoot you full of barium and 774 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: then perform a CT scan. The cancer cells divide rapidly, 775 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: so based on how much the barium glows during the CT, 776 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: we'll tell them how much your cancer has spread. As 777 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: part of the process, you have to remain still as 778 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: possible for an hour prior to the CT, so as 779 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: little circulation in the blood and barium as possible. Then 780 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: you sit for another hour, also as still as possible, 781 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: while getting the body scanned. Needless to say, you feel 782 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: very woozy after the barium, and it's very anxious time. 783 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: Your mind wants to wander into numerous worst case scenarios 784 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: while you were alone in a cold, dark room. However, 785 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: I was overjoyed when the nurses said I could listen 786 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: to my MP three player. I am glad you replaced that. 787 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: I spent both of those hours listening to your podcast. Actually, 788 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: I even got one of the nurses to tape my 789 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: phone next to my head during the scanning process to 790 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: ensure I would hear. It provided a great distraction and 791 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: really took my mind off what certainly would have been 792 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: very gruesome two hours. Also, the doctor said that beating 793 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: cancer certainly is partly mental, and the attitude and response 794 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: from the treatment have a large part to do with 795 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: your response. And I'm a graduate from Georgia Tech, and 796 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 1: if I could hear a go jackets in the air 797 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: seriously make my week and increase my odds of survival. 798 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I know you both went to Uga. However, 799 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that we can put a side our differences 800 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: and come together to rally behind something like cancer. And 801 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 1: I emailed Peter back and said, you're very manipulative human beings. Yeah, 802 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: and he laughed and thought that was really funny and 803 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: gave me and you a go dogs in the email. 804 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: Oh okay, and he thought that might be the like 805 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: a carbon offset. Okay, So Peter, obviously, go jackets. Buzz 806 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: buzz buzz, Go jackets. Go Jamblenreck from Georgia Tech, et cetera. 807 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: And that's where it ends, my friend. Yeah, and we 808 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: wish you all the best obviously in your treatment and 809 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: let us know how it's going. We'll be thinking about you. 810 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: Thank you. Peter. 811 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: Hang in there, buddy, good luck, and keep us posted. 812 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 2: And we're never going to say go jackets again. 813 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: That's right. That's your one shot, yep. 814 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 2: If you wanted to try to manipulate me and chuck 815 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 2: into doing something we don't want to, you can give 816 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 2: it a shot. You can tweet to us at s 817 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 2: y SK podcast That was a why by the way, 818 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: You can go to Facebook dot com slash Stuff you 819 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 2: Should Know and you can join us at our home 820 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 2: on the web. That is Stuff you Should Know dot Com. 821 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 2: Stuff you Should Know is a production of iHeartRadio. 822 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: For more podcasts, Myheartradio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, 823 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.