1 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode 2 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. We have got more spring 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: training to talk about. Of course, we're gonna talk about 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: the WBC. I don't know if the people like the 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: WBC out Mets up or not, but we're gonna keep 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: talking about it. Yeah, we like it, and this is 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: our show, so we get to do what we want. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys enjoy it though. Again, not trying to 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: be hostile off the rip, but hey, stick around, make 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: sure you're here for all of it. 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James, we got some games, we got 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: some pitching, some good, some bad, some ugly, some great. 20 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: Where do you want to start? 21 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: I mean, should we go reverse chronological? 22 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: Because I think right now a lot of people, I 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: think rightfully, so are very hopeful on Code I sang 24 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: his his start against the Marlins on Friday, Violens B. 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Team doesn't really matter. We like the stuff. 26 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: Was probably the best objectively that he's looked in years. Yeah, 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: because I was back. He was sitting ninety seven again 28 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: over what was a forty pitch outing. One of my 29 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: favorite things I saw is he did not throw a 30 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: ghost fork in the strike zone ever, which was amazing. 31 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: Zero in the strike zone and at the same time 32 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: he got one hundred percent whiff on it, so when 33 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: every time they swung they missed, it was never in 34 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: the zone. 35 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: That's nice. 36 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: He was dropping a weird he dropped one weird curveball 37 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: that landed for a strike. He had the sweepers, and 38 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: he had throw a couple of good colors like it was. 39 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: It was a very encouraging start from Code I sang, 40 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: the one that actually has me like slightly believing moving 41 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: the right direction again. 42 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need code I to be that guy if 43 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: the Mets really want to reach their like true potential, 44 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: if the Mets really want to be a team that 45 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: can do some actual damage this year. And it's not 46 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: anything new this isn't breaking news to the Mets fans, 47 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: but Code I saying it has to be better. And again, 48 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: I know the ERA was low last year, but you 49 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: guys saw the second half wasn't very good. And even 50 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: in the first half when that ERA was like a 51 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: two or whatever it was for half the year before 52 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: the injury from the peak flow, like we knew he 53 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: just wasn't the same Code I. But seeing this ninety seven, 54 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: seeing him even touch ninety eight, I think at times 55 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: right nine out two, yeah, ninety nine, Like that's that's 56 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: the Code I from twenty twenty three. Unfortunately a wasted year, 57 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: but that's Code from twenty twenty three. They got Mets 58 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: fans excited. That was Code I from twenty twenty three 59 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: that you could have a conversation, was a top thirty, 60 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: top forty pitcher in Major League Baseball. The stuff is good. 61 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: He just needs to be healthy, and it feels like 62 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: for the first time, honestly in a couple of years 63 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: that maybe right now, Code I even trusts that he 64 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: feels healthier, healthy right now. 65 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: And as a reminder that year in twenty twenty three, 66 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: Code that is best. That fastball average ninety five point 67 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: seven Miles proud or for a full season, which is 68 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: kind of amazing. I think back on now last year 69 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 3: when he pitched again Hercue Jerky season double some injuries, 70 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: it was ninety four and a half. That's a huge 71 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: difference for saying, he's just much more effective when that 72 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: philosity's higher and the vlosite is not only meaningful on 73 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: the fastball to make it more effective, it's meaningful on 74 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: every single pitch he throws like it's that's not I 75 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: think that's sometimes a misconception. I it's just you got 76 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: you need to throw everything kind of hard. In the 77 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: fact coda that the harder he throws something that more 78 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: effective he'll be just because it's not like it is 79 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: a deep pitch mix, but it's not ones that are 80 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: tremendously great up besides the Goes fork and so he 81 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: just got thrown harder. 82 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: And I think that's Willard. 83 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: Was talking about that. We've talked about that a lot. 84 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 3: Seeing it, it's just, oh, it makes me feel much 85 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: more excited about him. 86 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very exciting. Again, we know the ceiling of 87 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: a guy like code I sanga. The other thing that 88 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: I love too, no walks, no walks, filling the strike zone. 89 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: That's what you want to see from Code I Sanga, 90 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: like Justin Willard said all off season, things that we've 91 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: talked about here nasty in the zone and use that 92 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: goes fork to get those out, to get those swings 93 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: and misses. 94 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: I have a good stat about Code I posted like 95 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: a month ago when spring training was starting, we first 96 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: had those live vps. We had like the inclinations, the 97 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: inklings that not. 98 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: The inclination like yeah, it's too early. They bad words here. 99 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: Miss one for us guys. I'm trying to get to 100 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: the beach in Miami before the Japan Venezuela game. 101 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: But it's the fact that just when codi Is throws 102 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: the ball hardly's much more effective. So in his career 103 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: he's thrown five hundred and sixty eight pitches at least 104 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: ninety six miles per hour. The pitters against that have 105 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: a one to seventy six batting average of two aighty. 106 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: Slugging is twenty four percent went for. 107 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. 108 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: When Code saying it throws fastballs, it's just fastballs below 109 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: ninety six miles per hour. They have a two ninety 110 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: three batting average six hundred slugging four hundred expected ball 111 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: but sixteen percent withth So. 112 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: I wonder what that tells me. 113 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: If he can throw the ball really hard again, I 114 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: think he'd be very effective again. If he falls down 115 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 3: below that ninety six even ninety five and a half, 116 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: I think there's still going to be similar problems that 117 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: we had last season. 118 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gotta throw harder, and we're starting to see 119 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: that right now, which is great. That's what we need 120 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: to see from code I, because we know half the 121 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: game with him is is kind of mental at times. 122 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: Half isn't it could be more like at this point 123 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: with CODEA, it just seems like a lot of what's 124 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: going on always is mental. And the way that he 125 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 3: spoke before last season, we were like, doesn't seem right. 126 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: He seems like you're already hurt. 127 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: And that's why right now, the fact that he's throwing 128 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: confidently and like trying to be nasty. The quote was 129 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: trying to be a power pitcher, It's like, cool, hell yeah, 130 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 3: be a power pitcher. Because the flip side, we have 131 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: another starting pitcher I think is kind of going through 132 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: it right now. I think that it's not as bad 133 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: as maybe it's perceived by some fans, but also I 134 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 3: don't think it's really great, and that's Sean Manyah, And 135 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: we kind of wanted to do this, like just talk 136 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: pitching a little bit to get a proxy for trying 137 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: to predict the twenty six man roster an opening day, 138 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: like I will do the first part of the show. 139 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: And I'm starting to get not concerned about Mania for 140 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: the entire season, but maybe just possibly expecting a slightly 141 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: longer ramp up period with like a little two week 142 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: iol spell to start the year. 143 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because, like you've mentioned so many times, we 144 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: have the weird schedule to start the year where there's 145 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: so many off days, so the Mets don't actually need 146 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: to be carrying even five starting pitchers. 147 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: But at the same time, someone I think it was 148 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: the Bulky Penguin, Good good Twitter friend of the Messed 149 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: Up podcast he watch out to me, said, hey, we 150 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: do have a lot off days, but there's also two 151 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: straight nine games and nine days with off day between 152 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: the start the season. True, so we will need the 153 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: six starter for that, But again we still got Tobias Meyers. 154 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: We'll see and Tobias mights look good again and spring 155 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: outing against like double A, triple A hitters. 156 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: But stuff still looks very nice. 157 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: So it's just it's a the fact that Mania is 158 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: still under ninety miles per hour. 159 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: We still have time, We still too. 160 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: He doesn't know why he's under ninety miles now. I 161 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: think the quote is that he feels fine. He says 162 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: he feels healthy, but he's not sure why the villo 163 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: is there, and that he thinks it will come as 164 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: the season goes on. I hate to say, is we 165 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: don't really have the luxury of having you do spring 166 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: training during the regular season again, like Shawm and Iya 167 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: right now, to me, the best course of action with 168 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: him seems to be extended spring training, putting him on 169 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: the IL for a couple of weeks. Let him stay 170 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: down in Florida, build up the velo in games that 171 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: do not matter. I do not want Shawm and i 172 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Ah tinkering and finding out and getting his arm ready 173 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: in games that matter early in the season. We know 174 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: last year every single game matters. I know it's always 175 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: a joke because the Mets start off so hot, but 176 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: like if the Mets won one extra game last year 177 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 1: might be in the playoff, they would have been tied 178 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: and had a chance to be in the playoffs. So 179 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't think the Mets are into a spot where, 180 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: especially when we have other options like you mentioned with 181 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: Tobias Myers, who's looked great, we don't need to force 182 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: shawm and Iah to be on the opening day roster. 183 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: Let him get right so that he can be good 184 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: in June, in July and August. That's honestly more important 185 00:06:59,000 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: right now. 186 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: At the same time we set all of that last year, 187 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: it didn't work. It didn't happen that way. Yeah, So 188 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: this is kind of. 189 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: Like a different age that Shauman and I wasn't pitching 190 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: last year when he got hurt. He got hurt and 191 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: missed all the time, and then got thrown right back 192 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: into the rotation and clearly wasn't ready. 193 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: And there are a lot of people right now who 194 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: are basically saying, like, get him out of the rotation 195 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: no matter what pick postion to the bullpen. 196 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: I don't want. 197 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: I don't think that's necessarily smart now exactly this juncture. 198 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: And two, I just don't I don't know if that 199 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: will go over well. I don't think you can put 200 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars Seauan and I into the bullpen 201 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: right now. I really just don't think so that could 202 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: be something that happens out of necessity later in the year, 203 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: if he comes to you and brings that to you, 204 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: but right now, especially also because I still think like 205 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: a mid starting pitcher is almost more valuable than just 206 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: an above average reliever. 207 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: And I don't know if he is actually guaranteed to 208 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: be an above average reliever right now. I mean, if 209 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: he's throwing ninety one out of the pen, does that 210 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: really matter? Does that do anything? Probably not. 211 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, probably have to get to ninety three, 212 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: but we don't want that ninety one the rotation. I 213 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: think he still can be good and ninety one the rotation. 214 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: And also maybe this is just about Mets fans, you 215 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: and I everyone out there like recalibrating what we expect 216 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: from Sean and Iya. I think that the contract and 217 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: that the contract came because of the amazing second half 218 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: run in twenty twenty four, and he was amazing. 219 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: It was amazing. It might have us. 220 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: Thinking that Sean ma and Iya might be someone he's not, 221 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: and he might be more closer to the guy that 222 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: we stigned three years ago for the one year, ten 223 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: million dollar contract where at the time we were like, 224 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: all right, if Seaum and I gives us one hundred 225 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: and twenty one hundred thirty innings of like four r 226 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: that's a great outcome. And I know the contract right 227 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: now says you should do more than that, but the 228 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: player might be that deep down, so that might have 229 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: to be where we lie. At the same time, it 230 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 3: was vast these bad I said this last time. I 231 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: like how much he's tinkering. I like the fact that 232 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: he's throwing change ups and colors and sinkers right now. 233 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: I thinks he wasn't really doing and the fastball has 234 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 3: relatively better vertical life than he's had on it the 235 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: last few years, and he still is a sweeper with 236 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: tons of sweet Like I, if he actually can get 237 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: three miles an hour back across the board, I think 238 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 3: he'll be quite good again. But we have we're running 239 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: out of time to do that before opening day, but 240 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: we're not running out of time to do that in general. 241 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: Yes, And that's I think big conversation to have because 242 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: I think last year we did try to force Sean 243 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: and I to be a five inning pitcher when it 244 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: was just it was clear he could not do that. 245 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: No, and again like at the same time, I know 246 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: we're not trying to focus on the results because the 247 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: results are coming against lots of minor leaguers, But Tobias 248 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: Meyers this spring is like I think it's eleven strikeouts 249 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 3: and nine to third innings with the under one like 250 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: he looks amazing. And then just on top of that, 251 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: not to focus on stats. Again, it's stuff. The fastball's 252 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: got great vertical action on it. It seems like the Mets 253 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 3: have given coachs a little bit more out of that 254 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: throwing the curve balls got Slyther splither. He experimented with 255 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: one single loan color in his appearance a couple days 256 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: ago in the twelfth So I just think that he's 257 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: shown that. I think the Mets this was an attention 258 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: by them to get a guy who could mix into 259 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: this back of rotation early on. I think Tobias Meyers 260 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: proven if necessary, there's a chance that he does get 261 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: unleashed as a starting pitcher when we start the season, 262 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: or like we. 263 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: Hypothesized last episode, he's the Sean ma and I a piggyback. 264 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 3: I think two of the most extreme arm angles on 265 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: the team very different ways. 266 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: Of pitching. 267 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: Give me three innings from Sean and I to ninety brother, 268 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: and then give me four innings of Tobias Myers before 269 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: he gets to the bed. 270 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: If he throws ninety pitches in three innings, we're gonna 271 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: be that's a that's a horrible game. Ninety pitches. We 272 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: are in trouble, James, ninety miles. 273 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: Proud as what we're going for there? 274 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: Can I talk about some other interesting things going on 275 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: the pitching. 276 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: Side, Yeah, spinning their round. 277 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: Carl Edwards Junior threw four innings as a starter yesterday. 278 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: I think he threw four innings in the spring, all 279 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: of spring prior to that, and there had been murmurs. 280 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: I think when we signed him that the Mets were 281 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: gonna experiment with stretching him out. I don't know if 282 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: it's a good idea or not, but it's just it's 283 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: just interesting. I didn't think I'd ever seen Carl Edwards 284 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: Junior throw four innings. 285 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: No. 286 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: I also like find pitching depth where you can find it, 287 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: Like if Carl Junior could be pitching depth of the Mets, Like, 288 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: who who are we to say? 289 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Now? Yeah? As a great, great point, our boy, Ryan 290 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: Lambert continues to be amazing, just striking everybody out, having 291 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: absolutely electric stuff. And the guy who who spot I 292 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: think he should have even though again it's not gonna happen. 293 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: Craig Camberrall looks really awful. He does not look good. 294 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: He he cannot be on this open day roster as 295 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: it currently stands. I respect the guy, great career, probably 296 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: going to be a Hall of famer. These last few 297 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: years have made things a little bit murky, I think, 298 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: but I think relatively speaking, you can make a hall 299 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: of fame case for him. I don't think you should 300 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: be on the Mets in twenty twenty six. 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And that's that's that's okay. 326 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: Carl Edward's thing too. He sat ninety three and a 327 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: half still over sixty pitches and four innings that place. 328 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: That's incredible, Like, I mean, that's like someone who actually 329 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: can be a plus major leaguer who has a fastball 330 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: with like a decent cut on a decent vertical action. 331 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: He still has a curveball that's going to be good, 332 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: and he has a change up that's totally fine against 333 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: lefties like Carl Edwards Junior might be triple I starting death, 334 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: like Carlo rig Junior might be throwing himself into the 335 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: Brandon Wade Dell Justin Hageman group. 336 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: Right now, that's exactly what I was just gonna say, 337 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: which is which is pretty sick to have. It's gonna 338 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: be a nice that's gonna be a dog fight, I 339 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: mean honestly. And then Ryan Lambert like you're right, Like 340 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: he's going to pitch in the major league team this year, right, 341 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: it has to he has to do. 342 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 3: And this is another game where like especially if you 343 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: look at Lambert's pitch plot, he's just throwing fastballs right 344 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: down the middle. 345 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: We like, we know what works at the major league level. 346 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: He's he's he's just got it. That's it, He's got it. 347 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't I'm gonna be honest, I don't have any 348 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: more questions, like what what else do you need to see? 349 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: We see the fastball shape, we see the swing and miss. 350 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: You watch the game I think he's got to be 351 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: much more of a debate for the opening day roster. 352 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: I know we're a little biased, but like, at the 353 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: absolute worst, he should be the forty man. Thing makes complicated, 354 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: but he should be considered as one of the first 355 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: guys from the bullpen to be added to that forty man. 356 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: Like they shouldn't be picking up fucking dick love ladies 357 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: and stuff like that to fill in these. 358 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: Difference there. 359 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he still sucks though, like I understand left versus 360 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: it's a big difference there. But let's have good players 361 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: on the roster. Enough of this like trying to find 362 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: these dick love lady guys he stakes. 363 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: I wonder if in the start, because Lambert topped out 364 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: in ninety seven and the average ninety six, which is 365 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: like three full ticks below where he's been for a 366 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: lot of this spring, I wonder if he's getting the 367 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: directive now, like you have to throw strikes, you actually 368 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: want a shot at making this team sooner than maybe 369 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: we possibly expect it. So maybe this is them being like, 370 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: we know the shape is still great, but he also 371 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: did he only just won bat in that start. Again, 372 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: it's only eighteen pitches sinning so hard to they still 373 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: struck out all three guys he faced. But it's I 374 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: wonder how much of the pushing pulls going on right 375 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: now with Ryan Lambert and the Mets of like your 376 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: control controller's command first, the nasty stuff you could have, 377 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: like how how many pitches do you have to throw 378 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: in the strike zone for us to actually give you 379 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: a job an opening day. 380 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: I will say it does seem like the Mets going 381 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: into this, you know, spring training, there was a clear 382 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: initiative to throw more strikes, and we're seeing it. They 383 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: are walking less guys. No, Christian Scott had a four strikeout, 384 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: four walk day the other day three ins, but like 385 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: he's coming back from a big surgery. But even like 386 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: Clay Holmes, a guy who walked some guys last year, 387 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: had some issues with finding the strikes, one consistently came 388 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: back from Team USA, gave us five innings in relief 389 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: after Devin Williams got in from Code I Sanga struck 390 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: out six no walks, Like I see that, and that's 391 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: that's what gets me excited about what we're seeing Justin 392 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: Willard do right now with this major league pitching staff 393 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: is just nasty. In the zone, throwing strikes, forcing the 394 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: other team to beat you, not giving them free bases. 395 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: The thing that scared me in that appearance not scared me, 396 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: but like I was just kind of aware about it. 397 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: With Scott's he didn't even face a lot of lefties, 398 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: Like he was walking like some righty. 399 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: So something that I have the command issues right now. 400 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: And that that's very normal. If I did like that 401 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: he's still above ninety five with the fastball. I like 402 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: that the slider sat in here ninety. I liked that 403 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: the sweepers it wasn't really getting swings and missus, but 404 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: still moving like a nasty, nasty ass pitch. And he's 405 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: mixing in a splither that he's spoken about that we 406 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: talked about last time, the last video we gave you guys. 407 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: So there's just a lot of this. 408 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: This tier of the Mets pitchers are so interesting to 409 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: me and they might not be interesting to anybody else, 410 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: But like all the guys that we have sp five 411 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: through nine, it's a fascinating crew. 412 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: And I think it's one James Ciano special. 413 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is this is what killed this team 414 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: last year. It was with down them. Maybe it's more 415 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: of like maybe two, two through one through one through 416 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: nine starting pitcher wise, but having that five through nine 417 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: can help you cover up gaps in the middle. And 418 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 3: like I still think that Peralton McLain, Peterson Holmes sang. 419 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: Basically five locks as of right now for opening day. 420 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: As we start talking about predicting his twenty six, I 421 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: think past that is where it starts to get little interesting. 422 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: It kind of depends, like gut check, right now, is 423 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: Sean and I are the opening day roster? No, so 424 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: that's Tobias Myers in a purest starting role. 425 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: I think, yes, I think that's Tobias Myers. 426 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: So then we have one spot to play with, which 427 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: probably does I mean, he. 428 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: Doesn't have to say a pure starting role. He can 429 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: be still that three to four inning guy out of 430 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: the bullpen. 431 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: After the initial off day, it is nine games in 432 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: nine days, so there probably will be six guys to 433 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: get a start in those nine days. 434 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably just call somebody up. Tobias Miners, got 435 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: an option, sue your. 436 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: Pitch it and go right back down immediately. 437 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, oh the way again we talked about a 438 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: month ago, like the way Mendoz and everyone talks about 439 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: him it doesn't seem like he's going to leave this 440 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: major league roster. 441 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope not. He looks great, but. 442 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: We can I mean maybe that's true, Like the MESS 443 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: might have a roster moved two days into the season, 444 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: so we could be predicting the opening day roster. And 445 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: it's like it's completely futile, especially. 446 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: Because Tobias Myers could throw five, like you said on 447 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: day two of the season, and then they just send 448 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: him down because it's like we need to get. 449 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: Another arm up here, Pintaro, here we go. Let's go 450 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: because it's get ready for Pirates Game three. 451 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: And I still think it's got an option like. 452 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: Bo's get big outs right after the Dominican Republic ros 453 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: bom looks nice. 454 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: That change up looking great. 455 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 3: But another thing that seemed to be happening with this team, 456 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: it seemed like the right field the right field competition's 457 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 3: bit over because on Friday, Mess played split squad game, 458 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: split squad game where they kept the home team here 459 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 3: to play the Marlins Sanga star that Devin Williams came 460 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: in relief. Clay Holmes finished it. You had Semi and 461 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 3: you have Polanco, Bishett Alvarez, Luis Robert and then at 462 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: the six hole Mike Talkman where the kids went away 463 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: for again. The other split of the split squad game 464 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: against I was against the Nationals where they specked the 465 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: ship out of the Nationals a team. But Carson Bench 466 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: was I believe leading off and playing the outfield. 467 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Benja let Off played right field in that one. 468 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't know Ticket Ticket how it is. I think 469 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: there's definitely a little reading into the tea leaves there. 470 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: But also I wouldn't put it past the Mets to 471 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: just be like, this is how it was today. We 472 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: wanted Bench to get more at bats. We wanted him 473 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: to hit first. Where in the other lineup, you still 474 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: need Polanco, you still need Bischett, you still need Luis Robert. 475 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys who need at bats 476 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: right now in that lineup. One of those guys, though, 477 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: Horay Polanco, has start to look really good this spring. 478 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: It seems like the bats really coming alive. He's playing 479 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: a good first base. I'm feeling nice about Horay Polanco 480 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: going into the season. 481 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: Flip side, Marcus Enmi has had one of the worst 482 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: springs in all baseball. 483 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 2: He looks, yeah, he's missing a lot. 484 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: He's not really making a lot of great contact. You wait, 485 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 3: a lot of contact that first beak spring We're very 486 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 3: excited since then not much else. 487 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: So I don't know. It's spring training stats. 488 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: If it fits your narrative, great, if it doesn't ignore, 489 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: but definitely something to possibly somewhat considers that Simeon looks 490 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 3: a little washed at the play. 491 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: But again, we'll give give him. 492 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: A couple months of regular season. We're gonna let the 493 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: old man play, but we're gonna figure it out. 494 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: See a slow starter historically, is that something that's in 495 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: my brain? 496 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: I mean last year he had the worst start like ever. Yeah, 497 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: he had like a five hundred ops and then one 498 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 3: eighty batting average for like a month and a half. 499 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: So maybe that I'm not remembering historically. I'm Marcus Emion, 500 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: But I mean, we'll see what that whilse. Definite Williams 501 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: thrown a legit throw in a. 502 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: Color now and I know that makes you happy. 503 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: Happening all the time. Great, that's incredible. 504 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 3: Definite Williams just getting a new pitch at this point 505 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: in his career and be throwing it in games this often, 506 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: this soon, and looks like it's something that could actually 507 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: be a good pitch for the guy. Like that's I'm 508 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: pulling up the pitch movement data on now through six 509 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: of them, Through six of them, and twenty five pitches 510 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: in the game on Friday, Nice got twenty five percent whiffs, 511 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: got forty. 512 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: Three percent chases. It's he's throwing ninety three miles an hour. 513 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: I know that's the fastball. The color. 514 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 3: The color got no chase of no whiffs. Aha, there 515 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: we go. But again, new pitch, new pitch, still throwing it. 516 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: Let's see what we got. 517 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: I'll I'll say this aj Ewing looks awesome. I know 518 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: we've talked about him. Continues to be very impressive. This 519 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: seems to be the mets next top prospect in the system. 520 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: And on the flip side, Brett Bady looked pretty good 521 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: in the outfield. He looks comfortable enough in the corner 522 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: where it's not a problem. He's also played a little 523 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: first base. They got him all over the place. I 524 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: love that Brett Bady is taking on this Jeff McNeil role. Now, 525 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of hilarious. 526 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: Yeah right, all right, So the the edges of the 527 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 3: roster quick prediction benjer Talkman. 528 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: On opening day. On opening day, I'm gonna give Carson bench. 529 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: Why you're still gonna do Benji take Ben. 530 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I don't care about the split squad. 531 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: It might be the wrong answer. I'm just saying that 532 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't care. I want to see a little bit more. 533 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: So you think talking to me even makes the team? 534 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: No, I think talkman ends up. 535 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: Do you think they cut talkman. 536 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: I think they cut talkman. 537 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: I respect you being the Mike talkman Hayter in the 538 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: mess community. That's fine. 539 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, someone's got someone has to I'm not against him, 540 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: but someone has to be against him right now. 541 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: Is Ryan Risio on the roster opening day? 542 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: No? 543 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: Son, Who's the who's the bench? 544 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: Who's shortstop? 545 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: Bench? 546 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: Who? 547 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: Who is the bench guy? 548 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: If you dot Bruhan, probably Jackson Cluff, one of those 549 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: two cluff Hey, if you want to, if you want 550 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: to read the tea leaves, Cluff was the starting shortstop. 551 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: And then yeah, so the. 552 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: Doors did the full bathing practice as well. They still 553 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: say is on track for opening day. Corbyn Carroll broke 554 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 3: a handmade in the same like string of as versus 555 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 3: Colindor did. He played the spring training game already hit 556 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: the ball one hundred thirteen miles pro. 557 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be just fine. 558 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 3: Corbyn Carroll's a medical marvel. I'll know how that guy 559 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: recovered so quickly. Then you said, Noman and I opening 560 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: the day. Who's the last like long man guy who's 561 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: just on that opening day. 562 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: Roster, last long man guy that's on that opening day 563 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: roster for them. 564 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: Let's say Tobias Mayas take the shaum and I spot. 565 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: Let's just pretend shanm and I is doing extending spring training. 566 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: Can I say, s, this is just Carl Edwards. 567 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: Maybe he's Carl. 568 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: I think they just might be like, give us a couple. 569 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: He could also be like the early casualty too. Maybe 570 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: that's why he threw four innings. Is they're like, we're 571 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: gonna use you early on in the season and you're 572 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: never gonna play for us again. 573 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: So I'm trying to see he has a minor league 574 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 3: contract with invitation to spring training, So I guess that 575 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: means wow, with a ding there, I guess that means 576 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: he can decline an option if he wants to, if 577 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: he has a minor leage contief. So yeah, yeah, So 578 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: I mean or maybe you just gonna put them on 579 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 3: the team. Maybe Carl Edwards shown enough we bill seven, 580 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: Carl Edwards showed enough to be the Mets seventh star. 581 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: There, that's that's gonna be my hot take? Is that again? 582 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: Like if we want to read into what just happened, 583 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: he started and through four innings out of nowhere, that's 584 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: gotta there's got to be a plan somewhere, which this 585 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: is too much Carl Edwards stock already, But that's my 586 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: bold beck. 587 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: Can Carl L. Edwards be the sixteenth best seventh starter 588 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: in the league? 589 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: Yes, that's Oh my god, that's that's David Stern's porn 590 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: right there. That's what he thinks about before he goes 591 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: to bed. 592 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 3: That's the whole thing, all right. So that's a good 593 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: little quick roster projections. I think the rest of the 594 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: bullpens said, I think the right. What do you have 595 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 3: to said? I mean, honestly, I think those are the 596 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: only spots that are up for debate. I think he'll 597 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: be talking over Benje, but I think we see benj 598 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: two weeks in. I kind of think we might see Ronnie, 599 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: and Ronnie might go down also within the two weeks, 600 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: just because you're allowed to do that and still preserve 601 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: that option if you were Yeah, you're allowed to. 602 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: Play these games. 603 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 1: He didn't know that. 604 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 3: Okay, that was how we got the extra option on 605 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: Alvarez last year, because we set them down for just 606 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: enough time. That's right, yes, or the extra the extra 607 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 3: control year. Maybe I'm miss speaking about that. 608 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: How the option, I think the option as soon as 609 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: you get sent down, unless there's an injury to bring 610 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: you back up. 611 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 3: Or maybe if you start up, you can't go down 612 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: one time. But again, maybe if it's not Ronnie Breuhan 613 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 3: probably just does make sense because like myself, like. 614 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: Ronnie just needs to play baseball. 615 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: I almost want Ronnie to start on Triple A, just 616 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: we can mash against those pitchers. And I kind of 617 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 3: start to feel himself a little bit. I'm sure he's 618 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: gotta be watching the dr games. Be like man, I 619 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: wish I was good enough to be out there with 620 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: the boy. 621 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: Be healthy. If he's healthy enough, he could he could 622 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: be the Junior Lake on that squad. 623 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, Junior Lake, that's that's your Lake. 624 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: The guy's power off the bench and then starting pitching. 625 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 3: I kind of am starting to think that Manaia and 626 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: maybe doesn't break camp. But if he does, it's a 627 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: him and Meyer's piggyback. But if it's him in Meyer's piggyback, 628 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 3: you might need another long man, Like maybe bras Upon 629 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: is that guy like Brian Hudson hasn't. I mean, I 630 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: just haven't heard enough about Brian. 631 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: Hudson the Springs in the last week. He's getting hit hard. 632 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: So maybe he's getting hit hard to the point where 633 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: the match say, all right, we don't we don't care, 634 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: like we're just we're just happy to cut you. 635 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: We don't care if we lose you. I'm trying to 636 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: see a pitch filosophy on him right now. 637 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he never threw hard anyway, right, No, he's. 638 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: Like a ninety to ninety one guy. But I think 639 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: him being back in ninety two, which he has in 640 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: the Spring, maybe that's the line they want him to 641 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 3: be at. But the fact he's getting crushed, like maybe 642 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 3: they just maybe that's the spot that Carl Edwards takes. 643 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: You have Carl Edwards, Tobias Meyers and Sean and I 644 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: on the opening day roster or something like that. 645 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we'll wait and see, we'll find out more. 646 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: There's still like a nice two week chunk basically until 647 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: opening day, so I'm I'm excited to see how it develops. 648 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: And honestly, the World Baseball Classic, so I really care 649 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: about right now. Met spring training is very much second. 650 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic is absolutely electric. 651 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 3: Now Friday night World Baseball Classic watching the USA scrape 652 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: and claw against Team Canada winning that game. Basic get 653 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 3: throwing era was up, Abraham Toro kind of a miracle 654 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: and then David Bednard just tiptoeing out with the insane 655 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: jam insane seventh eighth inning. 656 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: Good at bats by Team Canada, great at bats. 657 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: All I'm telling is how much I like some of 658 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 3: these Team Canada guys. You guys are sticking up with 659 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 3: the wind Up with Us, which is now on Spotify. 660 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: You guys wanna double up on Mark and James Spotify if. 661 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: You want to listen to us talk for five hours 662 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: a day. 663 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, a boy at the Lopez talk about a ballplayer, 664 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: a grinder, defense, tough at that not a Zone would have. 665 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: Been a seven time All Star in the eighties. They 666 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: would have. They would have been hanging his rafter jersey 667 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: and the rafters if he played in the eighties. 668 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if you played in the eighties Ozzie Smith's 669 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 3: but never had the allure that he had. But it's 670 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: just watching the two games on Friday was the most 671 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 3: stark reminder any baseball could have that one team is 672 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: having at the time of their lives and one team 673 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: is simply lacing up their cleats and gods to work, 674 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: but not in like a cool like working man, hard 675 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 3: hat way and way of like this is dragging. 676 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: Hopefully we can win, that we can get home and 677 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: not be embarrassed. 678 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: Like for some perspective, like Team USA basketball, they do 679 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: that like put your lace up, your shoes, go to work, 680 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: but they do it in a cool way because they 681 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: just they be deliving shit out of you, and they're like, 682 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and they should TMOSA basketball should be Team 683 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: USA baseball does it in like the dorky way where 684 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: you want to like shove him in a locker. And 685 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: that pains me because I want USA to win, like 686 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: I am rooting for Team USA, but man, they are 687 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: just not nearly as fun to watch or exciting they have. 688 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: They have no aura to use the TikTok language and 689 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: like it starts from the top down. I mean, like 690 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: Judge has no aura. A great baseball player, but he's 691 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: got no vibe. Bryce Harper's more excited about playing in 692 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: the Olympics for some reason. With six teams. 693 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: I don't asked. 694 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper's been stinking it up. He might stink this year. 695 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 3: Bryce Harper's hitting second and Gunner Henderson's on the bench. 696 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: Like Gunner Henderson is one of the best players is in. 697 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: Baseball, is a better player than Bryce Arper. 698 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 3: And like even you actually like the overthrow on the 699 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 3: Bregman Bregon Bregman did hustle down the line to get 700 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: the runs. Like when the run scored, Alex Bregman turned around, 701 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: and like it looked like a fit the face of 702 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: like a college sophomore in biology class. Yeah, like I 703 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: couldn't believe someone, so boy, where you got? And this 704 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 3: appulled a lot of these reaction shots from because Mike 705 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: Dedino on TikTok he's doing some real funny voiceovers of 706 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: some of these World Baseball Classic sequences. 707 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: Is that your cousin pretty quickly. 708 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 3: When the Dominican Republic scored their first run against Team 709 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: Korea in a game that they ten run them. 710 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: There was never a world where Korea was winning that 711 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: game there was They didn't even come close to scoring. 712 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: I think they got a guy on second base that 713 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: was as close as they got. 714 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: N On he had a double. Boy, that guy's good. 715 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: He's gonna be good one day. But Vladi mcgraer Junior 716 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: scores in the double down the line. He's running like 717 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: his life literally depends on it. And he's superman slay 718 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: like he did in the playoffs against the Yankees to 719 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: beat the Tag by his second jan So though he did 720 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: a swim move slide scoring from first on a double, 721 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 3: he had no business scoring whatsoever. 722 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: Every fan held their breath. Me being at the game, 723 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: I would no. 724 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 3: But again he's a superman slid and then swim moved 725 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 3: and on the throw where the ball beat him by 726 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: two entire seconds, and he got up and he's screaming 727 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 3: after the Dominican Republic again ten run Team Korea. I 728 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 3: sent you this on Twitter. They had one Marischale in 729 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: the clubhouse. Je Marichelle is like one of the godfathers 730 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: to Dominican baseball in the United States. 731 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: Like he was like the first guy that'd be like, yo, 732 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: this good. 733 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: Where'd you. 734 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: As a picture? 735 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: And we haven't even had like as rich of a 736 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 3: history of Dominican pictures even since one Marichelle and he'd 737 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: be big a Hall of Famer legend, San Francisco Giants legend. 738 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: He's doing a little bout chata in the clubhouse after 739 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 3: the game in the star of their jacket, like this 740 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: is so much fun, where the complete Truxhabsition Team USA 741 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: has a speech from a Seal team the former Steal 742 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: Team six member and we love the troops here. But 743 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: that's the same guy that got into a Twitter fight 744 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: but two years ago with some young liberal poster and 745 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: said that he would make him know. If we can 746 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 3: say this, might have to bleep this out in the edit, 747 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 3: A concubine, Why is. 748 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 2: That guy talking to t us are right now? Why 749 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: are we doing this? 750 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's I think it's because he 751 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: killed those how I'm been laden, but. 752 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: Like for sure, but like more recently he threatened a 753 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 3: young man with I don't want to say the words 754 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: after that, but like it's there's the dichotomy right now 755 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: that that comic iescent mix up all my words, the 756 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 3: juxtposition and vibes is stark and every single day I 757 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: get more and more Dominican watching that te play. 758 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean Austin Wells right, hitting the walk off ten 759 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: run rule home run last night. Dominican fans, I think 760 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: that was the one where they're like, all right, you're cool. Well, 761 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: well we'll have to do Austin Wells because it was 762 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: a little tight. But yeah, like, I mean, I know 763 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: Norm mac clain didn't pitch well against Team Metaly whatever. Again, similarly, 764 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: like to spring training, we're not gonna take any of 765 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: these things like with that much weight on it. 766 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: But what's Weill Smith doing calling for those two fastballs 767 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: there against the left tias? 768 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: He doesn't know how to call our pitcher he has 769 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: Also do you see the quotes from Andy Pettitt, Yeah, 770 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: he's He's like, we're underwater with all we have. We 771 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: have no data on team do dr. I'm underwater with preparation. 772 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: Mark DeRosa didn't know that they weren't guaranteed into the 773 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: next round. What are we doing? 774 00:28:59,720 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: What? 775 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: Where is the actual like leadership of this team? There's 776 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: none and there's no vibes and there's no fun. And 777 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: again I'm still rooting for Team USA and I can't 778 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: wait to go on Sunday, Team USA versus DR That 779 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: game is gonna be sick, but it's gonna because of 780 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: the Dominican Republic and their fans. It's just that Team 781 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: USA is gonna be the best team that they possibly face. 782 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Mark Thuros of stuff has been very weird, 783 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: the quotes about that loss against Team Medalley, the back 784 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: and forth nature of it, saying like we didn't know 785 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: and then we knew, we had to get ready and 786 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: then talking about the fact of how much they celebrated 787 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 3: after beating Team Mexico. The whole thing's a strange vibe, 788 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: especially if because like this is Mark Throws's stay, Like 789 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: this is he's now managed this. 790 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: Two in a row or three in row, two in 791 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: a row. I believe he's two in a row. 792 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: And he played in the World Baseball Classic two way 793 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: back in the day, Like he was the grinder nine 794 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: hitter for TMUS, was. 795 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: The Ernie Clement. 796 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like two and six two thousand and nine 797 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: or something. But you gotta be on top of this, 798 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: like Andie Pettitt needs help preparing for the team to 799 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: make a Republic Baseball savon dot com can help me, 800 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: and you can do it, yeah, at least a little bit, 801 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: like maybe they probably need a little better than that. 802 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: But also the funny thing is that Team USA has 803 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: backed in and to the best possible scenario because we 804 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: have Paul Skeans on Sunday against American Republic and we're 805 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 3: facing Luis Severino. Like, this Team USA lineup has been 806 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: ice cold. I think maybe some of this more so 807 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 3: than night. 808 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: No, not really. 809 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: I think like they still have. 810 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: One of the highest ops is in the tournament, because 811 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: how could they. 812 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: Not there is an All Star team. But the two 813 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: guys who I think we're kind of questioning their inclusion 814 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: in the starting lineup being Bryce Harper and Alex Bregman, 815 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: or at least Bryce Harper Werry's hitting and Alex Bregman 816 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 3: over Gunner Henderson. Those are the guys that continue to 817 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: come up with men on base and not really come 818 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 3: through and not say anything about those guys as players, 819 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: and maybe say something about Harper as a player, But 820 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: Gunner Henderson every time he's been on the field. Think 821 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 3: he's about three for four in the World Baseball Classic 822 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 3: with a homer, like he's he's one of the best 823 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 3: players you have on this team. I think that Team 824 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: USA is doing a little bit too much of the 825 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: seniority thing. 826 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: And they should probably do much of it. 827 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: They should probably doing a little bit more of let's 828 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: get the better Why is Price Harper even hitting second 829 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: right now? Like, just put there schwarbur behind him, and 830 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: then put Gunner Henderson behind there, Like, just get the 831 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: best players the top of the line. 832 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: Let's play this thing like we want to win it. 833 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: Dude. Even the one guy who does have some more 834 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: on this team, PCA, has been playing out of his mind. 835 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: He's been playing such good baseball. Like do a little 836 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: chaos with him or something. We need a little we 837 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: need a little more PCA action WBC. 838 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: I'll say this too Cal Riley because it's especially meaningful 839 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: because he doesn't have a hit, but the vibes around 840 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: him are really weird. The whole Randy Rose Raina situation 841 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: is a see if I was a Mariness fan, I 842 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: think that's a catastrophe. 843 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: Shout out Josh Naylor for really trying to fix it. 844 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: He apparently told Cal before the game, like I'm gonna 845 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: give you a fist bump, and Cal's like, polease, don't, like, 846 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: don't do it, and then Josh Naylor like still went 847 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: for it and Cal obviously didn't give it to him 848 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: during the game, and then after the game, Josh is like, 849 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: I did that because I wanted to show you guys, 850 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter. He wasn't going to give a 851 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: fist bump to anybody, Like that's what they're doing. Shouts 852 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: to Josh Naylor being a leader, big, big, big points 853 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,239 Speaker 1: up for Josh Naylor this year right there. But like 854 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: for Nano Tatis and William Contras, who have no connection 855 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: to each other, hugged each other before a game, like what, 856 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: let's have fun? Why is this tournament becoming not fun 857 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: for Team USA? Like they're they're acting like they're like 858 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: the Russians in the fucking the Olympic Hockey. 859 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: At the same time, we gave both of us props 860 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: to Robbie Perkins on Team Australia for not shaking hands 861 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 3: with them. I remember if they played team career Chinese 862 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: t pay in that first game, but not shaking hands 863 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: with the leadoff hitter and whoever that game was to 864 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: be like, oh, we want to compare the juices. So 865 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: this is us talking abut both sides of our mouths. 866 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: But I do think teammates in the real world should 867 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 3: supersede whatever, whatever the whatever's happening competition, Like especially cal Raley, 868 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: Like you're gonna call it worst game if you if 869 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: shake cancer and right, what's gonna happen you don't have 870 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: a hit anyway, Like maybe you should change something up, 871 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 3: like maybe maybe break down the walls a little bit 872 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: around you. But they watch the field, they feel very tight. 873 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 3: They look tight, they're playing tight. Their at bats looked tight. 874 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: Like last night, talk about Wilkinson in a game that 875 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: Canada's down, I can't leave you the no tug bow. 876 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: That's I mean, the man, he's awesome. 877 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: Like he's absolutely screaming his head off and they're still 878 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: down two in the last inning. 879 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: Pump in ninety one. 880 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: So I'm saying, like brag Keller barely gets happen ending 881 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 3: he's like, oh okay, that was the close one. That's 882 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: why I love having David Bednar in this team, because 883 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: Dave bed nerd got himself into a jam on some ground, 884 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: you know, ground balls with eyes. Then he screamed his 885 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: face off when he got out of it. So second 886 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 3: or third, one hour, no outs. It was kind of 887 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: a miracle. He got out of it, got Josh now 888 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 3: I pop up to really save the day, and then 889 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: got a nice Tyler O'Neal something and Owen Casey strikeout 890 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: and a real good at bat by own Casey. I 891 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: think Tyler O'Neil struck out because he's he looks bad. 892 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: Owen Casey's been the star in this tournament. That was 893 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 3: a ten pitch at bat, found things off close ones, 894 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: then hit him with a curve in the zone that 895 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: was just it's maybe there was a split I don't 896 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 3: remember watching. That was a pitch that moved downwards. 897 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: But it was fun game. And then Sunday what. 898 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: Our boy Jared Young to bring it back to the Mets, 899 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: had a great at bat against Bason Miller in the 900 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: ninth thing. That was the only one. 901 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: He's still struck out, but that was the only guy 902 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 3: that actually put up any kind of fight against Bason Miller. 903 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that's just it. 904 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: Sunday, you guys are could hopefully we're all watching Dominican 905 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: Republic for US. Paul Skeans against the Dominican Republic lineup 906 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: is one of the best displays of baseball we could 907 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: possibly ever see. It's an all star lineup, but we're 908 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 3: gonna see Skians probably for four or five inches. 909 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: And of course, remember you guys can check out all 910 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: the word Baseball Classic coverage on Fox One. We'll leave 911 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 1: a link in the description so you guys can go 912 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: stream it over there, and also Foul Territory. We'll be 913 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: doing postgame shows after Team USA plays, so make sure 914 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: you go check them out. Otherwise, I think that's pretty 915 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: much it for this episode, right, James, Yeah, quick there 916 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: and out, let's wrap it up. Thank you guys for listening, 917 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for watching. Make sure you're subscribed to Mets 918 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: Up on YouTube. If you're listening to US Apple podcasts, Spotify, 919 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: Google drops the rating, drops, review, download, and subscribe. You 920 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: can follow James on social media at James Shianna. I'm 921 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: Draftnick Mark. We'll catch you guys on the next one. 922 00:34:28,080 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: Peace out, Peace out, guys, Let's go Mets