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Speaker 4: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three ninety, episode

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Speaker 4: two of Deadly Yes. Production by her Radio Woo. It's

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Speaker 4: a podcast where we take a deep dive into American

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Speaker 4: share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, May twenty eighth, twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five. We're still in the portion of the date

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Speaker 4: that is the same ford and backward. I think so.

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Speaker 4: I'm still excited about that. Over here. The great thing

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Speaker 4: to impress children in elementary school. They think that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: My name is Jack O'Brien aka shoot Roids in my

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Speaker 4: feet sees, I need some arch support. Dana gymnastics, Danna weightlifting,

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Speaker 4: one courtesy of Poppa Roach. Nah, that wasn't Pop wrote

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Speaker 4: the original one. Jeffrey Kingston wrote the Sorry I should

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Speaker 4: have finished that, Nana. This is steroids in sports or something. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: that's in honor of the Steroid Olympics. That they're gonna

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Speaker 4: do very exciting Yeah, Las Vegas. Where else We're gonna

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Speaker 4: get to see people sprint and swim and lift weights.

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Speaker 4: But like the sprint agains, swimming will look like it

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Speaker 4: on like one point one Speed on Netflix playback and

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Speaker 4: everyone will be amazed. I loved the idea in theory,

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Speaker 3: What are the rules of this? Just like any drugs

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Speaker 1: You have to be a real.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well awesome.

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Speaker 3: My only question is does doctor Moreau count because I

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Speaker 4: And really we need doctor Moreau in this ship otherwise

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Speaker 4: it's really going to be just fucking nothing. Yeah. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: I'm thrilled to be joined in our second seat today

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Speaker 4: by hilarious and brilliant producer and TV writer you know

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Speaker 4: from the jos This Racist podcast.

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Speaker 3: It's Andrew tren Be honest, I didn't no time for

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Speaker 3: I went on the discord.

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Speaker 3: Discordd discord and I was looking at y'all's little AKA

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Speaker 4: And I went one time and I was just honest.

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Speaker 4: all the akas they write are just about me pissing

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Speaker 3: I know exactly well, your secondary bullying has worked, has

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Speaker 4: Bullied you right off the and do you see what

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Speaker 4: But I wouldn't see Lelo and Stitch.

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Speaker 4: by another one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore.

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Speaker 4: Don't Know, The Act Cast, Ghost Church, The Bechdel Cast,

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Speaker 1: Aka Okay, I don't have a singing aka because I

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Speaker 1: You're starting to piss them off.

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Speaker 1: We desire he bought a book, he hadn't bought a book.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, he's a menace to society and we

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Speaker 1: I will sat there Harrisburg. Like most beautiful books I've

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Speaker 4: Please don't be mad at me. I'm impressed that Harrisburg

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Speaker 3: My my ideological attempt to free myself from Google products

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Speaker 4: That's been my experience with ducklet go. Just like the

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Speaker 4: What are you gonna do? All right, Jamie, We're thrilled

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Speaker 1: This is a recent one. Snoopy museum membership benefits because

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Speaker 1: I recently became a member of the Snoopy Museum.

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Speaker 4: Where's the Snoopy Museum.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm so glad you asked. Maybe you notice my

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Speaker 4: be right back. Just drank a milkshake was so funny,

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Speaker 1: Clues and it was the cutest thing in the world.

439
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Speaker 1: She freaked out when he said her SEMPI noticed her

440
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: and she sicked out. Wow, so underrated. Just you know

441
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: children's media people work in overtime.

442
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Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, Jack, can I ask a parenting question?

443
00:24:59,480 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: Sure?

444
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: How do you decide which of the media as the

445
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 3: kid gets to see as far as like like like

446
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: not Blues Clues but something else or is it just

447
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 3: the kid leads?

448
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 4: It's like research, just talking to other parents who have

449
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 4: like kids who seem like they're I don't know, like

450
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 4: they're not like tweaking, you know, like that, like they're

451
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 4: not like itching to like get on the iPad. And

452
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 4: then just also it's just trial and then like seeing

453
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Speaker 4: how they respond to the thing, and they're just like

454
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Speaker 4: certain shows that my kids responded to, like it was

455
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Speaker 4: junk food, you know, where it's just like, God, I

456
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 4: need like another hit of that immediately, and then when

457
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 4: you like turn it off, they're like mad at you

458
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 4: and screaming. And then there's other ones where it's just like, oh,

459
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Speaker 4: they seem like really like they took a good lesson

460
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Speaker 4: to heart. And yeah, I think like Bluey is the

461
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Speaker 4: best feels fast show. It's just so good. Oh good. Yeah.

462
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 3: My nephew was watching some this like Frog and Toad

463
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: show that's like it's on Apple and it just apparently

464
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 3: the philosophy this is amazing to me. And but I'm

465
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 3: sure no parents are surprised by this. It's like it's

466
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: supposed to be like slow, bring your energy down, and

467
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: it's literally just like it's like they'll just they like

468
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: talk like the fucking like that Stephen Colbert old fashioned

469
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: guy like sketch where they just say something long beat

470
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: and then respond long beat and it's so so slow.

471
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Speaker 4: It's so amazing. Yeah, it rules, which is how I

472
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 4: always imagined that. It's like when you read those books,

473
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 4: it just seems like they're really giving each other like

474
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 4: some room to breathe, you know, So that's great to Yeah, yeah,

475
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 4: it's truly delight. Guess we'll go outside today anyway. Yeah,

476
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 4: we're starting to do podcasts. There's a good podcast, Grim

477
00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 4: Grimmer Grimmist that like retails the Grim Grim's brother the

478
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 4: Brothers Grim Fairy Tales from a modern audience. But yeah,

479
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: my kids are like obsessed with it. Yeah, and it

480
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 4: also like, yeah, I think that's a good point. It's

481
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: like a cool like energetically cooling, you know, as opposed

482
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 4: to like cranking it up. And I like in the

483
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: critiques I've seen from you know, the sorts of people

484
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 4: who used to be consulted for making that like still

485
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 4: work for Sesame Street but like the until they did

486
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 4: some union busting, I guess. But like people with educational

487
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 4: backgrounds who are experts on like, you know, how to

488
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 4: make contem for children that isn't going to be bad

489
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 4: for them. The thing that they talk about with a

490
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: lot of the shit on YouTube is just that it's

491
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 4: like overstimulation is like the thing that the kid will want,

492
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: and it's also just like so so bad for them.

493
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: But you know, it's the wild West out there.

494
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, They're going to be fine. It's fine, nice stable world.

495
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fine.

496
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we're gonna blame it on. Yeah, YouTube videos.

497
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: I blame this Rachel. Actually, Like if the children turn

498
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: out fucked, they'll just blame mess Rachel.

499
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: This poor lady can't catch a break.

500
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 4: My god, Jesus, what is something you think is overrated.

501
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: Engagement rings that cost over one hundred and fifty dollars?

502
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 4: Okay?

503
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because I lost mine?

504
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: Oh no, look so but there have you have you

505
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: been on since you got engaged? Since you maybe not?

506
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: I have been Congratulations, congratulations.

507
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, this was actually and I promised to

508
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: not bring up the Snoopy Musum after this. That was

509
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: kind of the way we wanted to celebrate, was was that?

510
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: But we got we got engaged shortly before the fires

511
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: postponed significantly. But we you know, the Snoopy Museum was

512
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: the big celebration, and boy did it deliver. But yeah, no,

513
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: I knew I was going to lose my engagement ring.

514
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: I like cannot be I cannot have something nice with

515
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: me all the time, Like I just can't do it.

516
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: I was feeling a lot of dread about it. I

517
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: love the rate the replacement comes here today. I really

518
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: like the ring it has, like it is a little

519
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: it's a little eyeball with a bluestone in the middle.

520
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: It looked great. It was really pretty. And then I,

521
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: of course did lose it, like about a month ago,

522
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: and I was in the trenches. I was really I

523
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: was like going retracing my steps. I was hope he

524
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: wasn't he wasn't going to notice. I didn't want him

525
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: to be said or like, so I was just like

526
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: running around Burbank weeping on whoever would listen, looking for

527
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: this ring. And then I like two days later, he

528
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh, where is it? And I was like, look,

529
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: I think it fell off at the AMC Burbank when

530
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: we went to see Prime Prejudice. I don't know where

531
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: it went no, and he it was like, oh, well,

532
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: it only costs like one hundred and fifty dollars.

533
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: So it's fun.

534
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, yes, like I can replace it,

535
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: and because well, he was like, it's the ring you wanted,

536
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: and I assumed you would lose it. It's like, it's

537
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: so true. It was the ring I wanted and I

538
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: did lose it, and so now I'm just getting another,

539
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: and so it's like, I think ultimately we'll end up

540
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: spending the amount of your average engagement ring on this

541
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: ring over and over.

542
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 4: Within thirty years.

543
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.

544
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: Would it makes sense to just bulk by like thirty

545
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: of them.

546
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: Now, I want to see how long this one's gonna last.

547
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this one fit. That's key. It turns out,

548
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: you guy, it has to fit you or it will

549
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: fall off at the AMC. Burbank, I just I don't know.

550
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: I was so relieved because I was just terrified that

551
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: he had like invested, like you know, I just was, Yeah,

552
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: I was really scared. And then I realized through losing

553
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: it that he actually knows me quite well, and that

554
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: I could not be trusted with an expensive piece of

555
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: jewelry because I've never had one, because I shouldn't have one, right,

556
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: And then it turns out I didn't have one.

557
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: True true testament to a fiance who knows their partner.

558
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully he won't be upset for telling anyone, but

559
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: I was.

560
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: You've been put on blast.

561
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: I grant I'm black, but it was. Yeah, I've never

562
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: been more relieved because instead of.

563
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: Putting it on your finger. You walk around bobbling it

564
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: from place to place right like, I, how do you

565
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 4: do it?

566
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: Like because I'm so fidgety where I'm like, you know,

567
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: taking it off, putting it?

568
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 4: Okay?

569
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so right now I've got a decoy one.

570
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: Now now I have a decoy one.

571
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: You have a decoy one to get yourself used to

572
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: having it on, or you dkoy one to fake out

573
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: your fiance.

574
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: Well technically this was the decoy one was to just

575
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: go on tour so that I was wearing a ring.

576
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: I didn't want anyone to be like what you I

577
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: don't know when people are really familiar, like what happened?

578
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: Could trouble in Paradise? Yes, the first question of the

579
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 4: reading Troubling Paradise, Jamie.

580
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: Could you get like a plastic training ring to get

581
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 3: yourself used to wearing a ring?

582
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 4: This is a lot of men wear plastic wedding or

583
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: engagement bands because they don't want to end up like

584
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: Jimmy Fallon. You know, oh sure, keep boing yourself, Jamie.

585
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 4: The two Jimmy's Jamie Lost Us or Jimmy Fallon who

586
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: one time got drunk and or I don't know if

587
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: it's officially part of the situation where I think I

588
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: had to do with him, but he almost lost his

589
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 4: finger because he fell and his wedding ring got caught

590
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: on like the corner of something and it like almost

591
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 4: ripped his dang finger off.

592
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, yeah, No, I was just at pride and prejudice.

593
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: Prejudice just flipping your ring like.

594
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: Literally raised raised my hand to like wipe my eyes

595
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, just.

596
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: Ring. Yeah, just.

597
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: No idea what happened. But shout out to the I

598
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: think assistant manager of the AMC Burbank who was so

599
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: nice about it. It helps me look through the theater.

600
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: It was really sweet, but it wasn't there.

601
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: So I am envisioning like a ring holder that's like

602
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: a mannequin hand, but just with wedding like wedding ring

603
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: copies stacked to.

604
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: The very tip of it.

605
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: Well, because I was like talking with with him and

606
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: I was like, well, what, I'm going to re order it,

607
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: but like and I'll get it fit. But I was like,

608
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: should I just not wear it out? And he's like, well,

609
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: that's kind of the point of an engage for or

610
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 1: wear it out. It's just you can't win. So they

611
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: just have to like, you know, not cost more than

612
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars. That's the key. That's my recommendation to anyone.

613
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, blood diamond, a big blood diamond. Can you try that?

614
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: Because that's cool to just have.

615
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: Like, wait a second, I didn't think to ask worth

616
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: tied up in blood diamonds a thing that.

617
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 4: That represents you having been indirectly a part of a

618
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: war crime.

619
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna why no, I'm just going to keep

620
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: giving this guy, this guy with an Etsy store one

621
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars every few months and then uh,

622
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: and then we'll get married. At some point.

623
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: You you should really check in with the guy and

624
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: just see if you can get like an increasing one

625
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: percent discount on subsequent rings.

626
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna want to keep these measurements on

627
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: on the books because you will be hearing from me again.

628
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: Just just hit subscribe and save. I think it does

629
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: flick you on every six months and.

630
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 4: New ring king amazing. Well, congratulations again, We're thrilled for

631
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: you and your fiance. And yeah, let's get into some news.

632
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 4: So we wanted to do a quick international check, and

633
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: there's a couple of big international stories happening. One is

634
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 4: things are going bad in Russia. Have you guys heard

635
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: about this Russia? So they've got this guy, Vladimir Putin,

636
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 4: and Donald Trump is master negotiator, and he was like,

637
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 4: everybody needs to chill out. This guy and I are friends.

638
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: He's a path. And now like Vladimir Putin's doing whatever

639
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 4: he wants because he turns out he's like a dictator

640
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: bent home world domination. Like basically everyone except Trump believed

641
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 4: he was. And it's just like Donald Trump just keeps

642
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 4: being like, Vladimir, stop it, Like he was really tweeted

643
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 4: that a couple of weeks ago, really were literally on truth,

644
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: said Vladimir stop it all caps, yeah, And now he's

645
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 4: having to like do military exercises in on a Swedish

646
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 4: island to be like we're we mean business, but for real,

647
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 4: why aren't you returning my calls? Type thing?

648
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I know.

649
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: Trump also is not a good negotiator, but this, I

650
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: will just say, does have a wee bit of like.

651
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: He's not.

652
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: His goal is not to have Vladimir Putin stop it.

653
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: So I wonder if a different way of looking at

654
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: this is closer to like, oh, stop it Vladimir please.

655
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: Right, just like you know, he does not give a ship, right,

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Speaker 4: it feels like he has to. Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: The whole point is let let Vladimir cook. That's that's like,

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Speaker 4: see where he's going with that.

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Speaker 2: That's odd.

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Speaker 3: That's one of Donald's you know, that's on his to

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Speaker 3: do list is continue to let Vladimir cook.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like similar situation in Gaza. Things have

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Speaker 4: gone from horrifying in genocidal to somehow worse. In addition

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Speaker 4: to openly targeting civilians who like once worked for the

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Speaker 4: government and then like bragging when they assassinate like a civilian,

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Speaker 4: you know, and then obviously every child that happens to

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Speaker 4: be in the same building that they think they might

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Speaker 4: be in. They have also cut off all food and medicine,

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Speaker 4: and behind the scenes, Trump has repeatedly made promises and

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Speaker 4: then failed to deliver, and made promises and failed to deliver.

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Speaker 4: And he actually he promised he would get Israel to

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Speaker 4: agree to a cease fire and end the Blackade in

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Speaker 4: exchange for like the big valuable hostage now Alexander an

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Speaker 4: American Israeli soldier, and Amos was like, all right, if

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Speaker 4: you say so, and they released him, and that truly

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Speaker 4: absolutely nothing was done, like not even the hint that

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Speaker 4: something was going to be done, And yeah, it's I

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Speaker 4: don't know. People have pointed out this is bad for everyone.

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Speaker 4: You can negotiate if you don't like, actually do the

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Speaker 4: thing you claim you're going to do. But yeah, it

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Speaker 4: seems like we're continuing to have an American executive branch

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Speaker 4: that like that. There's this quote from an Israeli cabinet

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Speaker 4: minister that literally said, we're dismantling Gaza, leaving it in

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Speaker 4: ruins with unprecedented destruction, and the world still hasn't stopped.

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Speaker 4: The world still hasn't stopped us, which seems to be

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Speaker 4: like that. There keeps being these quotes like about the

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Speaker 4: challenge like that it's crazy. When they're talking about the

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Speaker 4: Biden administration, they're like, it was weird. We were so

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Speaker 4: surprised that they did pushback at all. They were like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: go to it. We did not see that one coming.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know. I feel like there were some

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Speaker 4: people who were like, well, anything is better than Biden,

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Speaker 4: who seemed like absolutely committed to Zionist genocide, and it

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Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be getting better in any appreciable.

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Speaker 1: Way, and then like there's been no real uptick in

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Speaker 1: any sort of I mean, I know that there's been

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Speaker 1: increasing efforts to you know, have people reach out to

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Speaker 1: their like their their representatives, but that hasn't yet moved

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Speaker 1: the needle. Really, like no one is saying anything many times.

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Speaker 1: You know, how many days in a row have people

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Speaker 1: done their five calls? And you know, people who whatever,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's nothing we don't know, but like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: alleged progressives don't do shit, they don't care or it's

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Speaker 1: like inconvenient to take care and public figures too, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I think it's so frustrating that like, you know,

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Speaker 1: people who sort of issued these weird wishy washy bided

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Speaker 1: administration coded statements over a year and a half ago

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Speaker 1: and almost two years ago are sort of are are

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Speaker 1: really quiet when there's images of children being killed every

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Speaker 1: day coming out, it's just like it it is the

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Speaker 1: most depressing thing in the entire world. I feel like,

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Speaker 1: there's it's really cool, see, I mean, I like, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: the only public figures that really like come straight to

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Speaker 1: mind are like romy Yousev, Miss Rachel, Miss Rachel, the

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Speaker 1: Irish punk band Kneecap like three very disparate uh personalities,

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Speaker 1: but like but it's just it's it's really uh Yeap.

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Speaker 4: Was one of the members of MECAP was just charged

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Speaker 4: with like terroorism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like and like Hassan Piker was held at the border,

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Speaker 1: like it's just like absurd.

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Speaker 4: And then following the murder of the two people who

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Speaker 4: worked for the Israeli embassy, like the Hassan Piker's name

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Speaker 4: was all over the news last weekend, people being like

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Speaker 4: this person needs to be completely deplatformed and you know,

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Speaker 4: essentially arrested for you know, which yeah.

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Speaker 1: Which of course there's like no grounds for it, but

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Speaker 1: it's just yeah, it's it's I know that it's like

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Speaker 1: becoming increasingly scary to like and it is also it's

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Speaker 1: tough because it's like it's not a genocide that the

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Speaker 1: government is complicit and is not something that we're going

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Speaker 1: to post our way out of right And I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I just such a bleak.

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Speaker 3: Politician thing is like, I mean, they didn't say anything

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Speaker 3: under Biden. It's there like as far as like Democrats go,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why air quoted democrats like Democrats go, yeah,

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Speaker 3: like this is like it's not something that we like

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Speaker 3: to think about or hear, but I think the evidence

738
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Speaker 3: is pretty clear. This is just one hundred percent of

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Speaker 3: thing they believe in, right, a genocide.

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Speaker 4: So it's like it doesn't seem like it was an accident,

741
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Speaker 4: like all the all the public from page stories where

742
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Speaker 4: Biden is like banging his dang head against the wall

743
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Speaker 4: trying to get something done over here and you just

744
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Speaker 4: can't get it done. Like all reporting since the administration

745
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Speaker 4: has been like the I was like, whoa, this guy's

746
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Speaker 4: really not true, never been true.

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Speaker 3: But also that goes down to like I mean that

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Speaker 3: that is part of the reason why this you know,

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Speaker 3: calling your representatives, you know if you have a Democrat

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Speaker 3: you know, congress person or senator. Like the reality is

751
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Speaker 3: it's not that they I think it's not that they

752
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Speaker 3: don't care, it's that this is their plan. This is

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Speaker 3: plan a r happening. Yeah, like this is a place

754
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Speaker 3: where they agree with Trump would be my is what

755
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Speaker 3: the evidence suggests to me, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean yeah, because like the leaders of the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 1: like there's never there's never been a point in their

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Speaker 1: careers where it would be like they would have made

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Speaker 1: a different choice as we saw as we saw, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I could keep going it Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I don't. Yeah, it's bad. I feel like,

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Speaker 4: you know, following the murder of the two people, it's

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Speaker 4: just going to get worse.

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Speaker 1: It's going to get so much worse. Yeah, for now,

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Speaker 1: there's like there whatever, anyone who wants to make an

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Speaker 1: example of someone has this example to point to.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, I feel like it's going to make

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Speaker 1: I mean, not that protesting has already been so horrifically difficult,

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Speaker 1: especially for students, but I feel like it's just going

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Speaker 1: to get even harder.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I believe it's equally bad when innocent Palestinian children

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Speaker 4: are mar as when innocent adults are mergered. But I

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Speaker 4: feel like that's right. The mainstream media seems to have

775
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Speaker 4: like some different conversion rate behind the scenes. Want to

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Speaker 4: I want to see, like do they have the chart

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Speaker 4: where they're like it's like ten thousand, it's like ten

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Speaker 4: thousand Palestinian children. Is when it rises to the level

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Speaker 4: of like a white guy in Minnesota or something, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and even then completely you know, like children that

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Speaker 1: just existed as avoid of context because the paper is

782
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Speaker 1: reporting on them. Generally don't give the proper context to

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Speaker 1: even help you understand why things are happening the way

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Speaker 1: they are in the first place.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the journalists who has taken a lot

786
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Speaker 4: of the videos that you're talking about that are like

787
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Speaker 4: one of the reasons that people are able to see

788
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Speaker 4: what is actually happening was assassinated by Israel recently. So

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Speaker 4: that's how they're choosing to deal with the fact that

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Speaker 4: this is horrific and unpopular with anybody who sees what

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Speaker 4: they're doing. Is just like, how do we make it

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Speaker 4: so people aren't seeing what we're doing?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll

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Speaker 4: talk about some bullshit when we get back. And we're

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Speaker 4: back and you guys, right is ready for the mega

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Speaker 4: TV revolution?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Should we just skip this one? Talk about the person

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Speaker 4: who swam around Martha's binger for the Jaws. So, I mean, really, briefly,

802
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Speaker 4: there's this Wired article about how the overall vibe in

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Speaker 4: Hollywood is like not just trying to back away from

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Speaker 4: DEI values because they're afraid of like being sued, but

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Speaker 4: also they've like kind of focused on They're like Yellowstone,

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Speaker 4: this Tim Allen show, that other Yellowstone show. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: Tim Allen's got to have something else that it's overwhelming success.

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Speaker 4: I mean they also talk about this reality show about

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Speaker 4: like dating farmers wives or something. You know, what farmers

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Speaker 4: farmer wants a wife or what armer wants a wife?

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Speaker 4: Farm wife there?

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Speaker 3: And is that like a porn parody of a fucking

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Speaker 3: children's song?

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Speaker 4: That's like what the I think that's I think that

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Speaker 4: song actually is just like I don't know that that

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Speaker 4: song says the farmer takes a wife, which is.

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Speaker 1: Like, damn, I'm sure he did.

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Speaker 4: It's yeah, but like I don't know, it's definitely happening.

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Speaker 4: Their evidence, and this is something that we've seen and

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Speaker 4: talked about on the show since the Sony Leaks. Actually,

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Speaker 4: I don't think we had a show when the Sony

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Speaker 4: Leaks happened. But I love talking about the Sony Leaks

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Speaker 4: because are so funny, fucking wild, Like the guy who's

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Speaker 4: like guys Denzel's my favorite actor, but the guy can't

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Speaker 4: open a movie like Ahead of the Equalizer too, which

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Speaker 4: was like a hundreds of millions of dollars box office success.

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Speaker 4: But it's just what they do, is they focus in

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Speaker 4: on the things that succeed that are in line with

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Speaker 4: the thing that is going to be convenient for them

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Speaker 4: to kind of evolve their projects towards. And so it's

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Speaker 4: convenient for them to create anti DEI like pro quote

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Speaker 4: unquote Heartland values content and believe that it's going to

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Speaker 4: succeed more than things that are made for a diverse audience. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and so this article kind of pisses me off because

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Speaker 4: it's just like it does like kind of try to

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Speaker 4: make the case. Well, it also is like, but this

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Speaker 4: is dumb and like going to ruin TV. But it

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Speaker 4: does like take their take some of their cases that

839
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Speaker 4: like face value, like they're like Tim tim Allen's Shifting

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Speaker 4: Gears about a grumpy widow or with Manisphere viewpoints is

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Speaker 4: a ratings hit for Disney's linear broadcast audience, with more

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Speaker 4: live viewers on average than The Connors season seven and

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Speaker 4: Abbot Elementary season four, but like such a very specific

844
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Speaker 4: so live viewers is people who choose to watch it

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Speaker 4: linear television ABC, which the TV TV.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who watch Abbot Elementary,

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Speaker 1: and none of them watch it during the broadcast. They

848
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Speaker 1: watch it the next day on Hulu.

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Speaker 4: I haven't watched a non sports broadcast other than I

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Speaker 4: guess Game of Thrones the final episode because we had

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Speaker 4: like a viewing party like as that happened, but.

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Speaker 3: That I will just throw this out there. I mean

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Speaker 3: maybe not you specifically, but even those that were like

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Speaker 3: concurrent with the time were also on HBO Max right

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Speaker 3: right at the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I don't think we like turned it on

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Speaker 4: and we're like, Okay, we got to make it through

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Speaker 4: the the credits of Fast and the Furious setting to

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Speaker 4: like watch.

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Speaker 1: This, Like yeah, I think, but this, Yeah, the presentation

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Speaker 1: is kind of like making it this show look probably

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Speaker 1: more popular than it actually actually is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like they talk about this dating show and they're

864
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Speaker 4: like it pulls in an impressive like one point five

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Speaker 4: million viewers, which like I don't know, like aren't dating show,

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Speaker 4: Like they isn't The Bachelor, like the last thing that

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Speaker 4: like puts up cheers numbers. Like so you're like you're

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Speaker 4: just saying it out of context, but you're not like

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Speaker 4: which is obviously a niche hit that would be you know,

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Speaker 4: like compared to a mainstream dating show hit. Like that's

871
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 4: the thing that like I feel like happens with these

872
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: stories like they they they talk about how in the

873
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 4: article they talk about how Sinners is like this massive

874
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 4: hit that like should point people to. No, people still

875
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: want like stories told from diverse perspectives about different things

876
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: that aren't just like right wing Christian values. But they

877
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 4: don't like bring up, for instance, the thing that like

878
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 4: everybody was like so amazed by was that Sound of

879
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 4: Freedom movie, which I think ended up being like the

880
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: thirty second most successful movie at the box office the

881
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 4: year it came out. Like it's like not it was

882
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 4: like a hit again. It's like it's like when we

883
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: talk about the you know, woke pope, he was like

884
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 4: had progressive values for a pope. It's like this was

885
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: successful for being Christian right wing entertainment, which is a

886
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 4: small niche portion of the I.

887
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 3: Will also say just not to like so in the

888
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: notes in this document here, there's a sentence that says

889
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: box office is a kind of unfakeable right, and I

890
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: will just say that is not true, Like right right

891
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: ticket specifically is was like a movie, and all those

892
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: like right wing movies are movies where like you know,

893
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: rich people, rich right wing you know billionaires will just

894
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: buy out theaters that are either empty or those tickets

895
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 3: are given to people for free. So they're parents that'll

896
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 3: just bring you know, their kids to whatever. That fucking

897
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 3: weirdo Jesus movie that came out recently was because it's free, right,

898
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: like the Jesus cartoon that came out recently.

899
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: Made for like church field trips.

900
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

901
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also they will just play to empty theaters,

902
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: like or nearly empty theaters. So so just a teeny

903
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 3: tiny pushback on the idea that box office is unfeable.

904
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 4: It's absolutely yeah, that's definitely fair. They're definitely like juicing

905
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: those numbers, and even the juiced numbers are like yeah, yeah,

906
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 4: it would be like a mid sized hit that people

907
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 4: if it were made by a black director. Variety or

908
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 4: the Hollywood Reporter would be like, still hasn't made its

909
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 4: money back? Sinners.

910
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 3: They were like, oh, Sinners might lose money even though

911
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 3: it's been number one at the box office three weeks

912
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: in a row, Like it's how I mean after it's.

913
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 4: Like weekend that like broke, like was double what they

914
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 4: were predicting for it. They're like, still isn't made with money?

915
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean the other thing about it, Listen, the

916
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: only way the entertainment media could be more transparently right

917
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 3: wing is if they were like Sinners is the top

918
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 3: grossing movie with a clan member in.

919
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 4: It time, That's right.

920
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: It's just I mean, it's it's is like, I don't

921
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: know how how long you guys have been like noticing this,

922
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: Like I feel like really abrupt backslide. But it's just

923
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: like so it's like comparing you know, this point in

924
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: the first Trump administration to now where it felt like,

925
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: you know, it's just been made very clear that any

926
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: level of diversity was seen as an industry trend versus

927
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: a commitment to doing anything, because you know, the second

928
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: the re election happened, they're like, well we we we

929
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: tried the first time and it didn't work, so we

930
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: just made like stuff instead.

931
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: The thing that is I think worth pointing out about Hollywood,

932
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: the people who run Hollywood, is that DEI was not

933
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 3: of value.

934
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 4: It was a r maneuver.

935
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yea trend.

936
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 3: The things they're making now are what these people believe

937
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 3: in and always have. They were just you know, trying

938
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: to diversify their portfolio.

939
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, when it's somebody else's point of view that's

940
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 4: being made they turn it into like a thing that

941
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: sounds like corporate boiler plate DEI. But then with this stuff,

942
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 4: it's heartland. It's Heartland entertainment. Like come up with if

943
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 4: you like fucking focus group, which I'm sure they did,

944
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: like the best way to describe the bullshit content that

945
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 4: they're going to start investing in.

946
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: The Other thing I will just say is having in

947
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 3: my twenties worked for tech startups and a TV network.

948
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 3: This this like the way they just like torture statistics

949
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: to say what they want to, what they.

950
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 4: Already believe in.

951
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: Is Yeah, like these like alleged like objective masters of

952
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: the universe who just see data and act on it.

953
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 3: Like the fact that they need to like say, like

954
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 3: more live viewers with the live audience, you know, linear broadcast.

955
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 3: It's so pathetic and it is very depressing that this

956
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 3: works on people at all. It's just like how stupid

957
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: do you have to be to believe this? Like truly,

958
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 3: it's just like, what the fuck are you talking about?

959
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 3: Linear broadcast audience? Get the fuck out of here.

960
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, throwing words at people and trying

961
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: to confuse them. I don't know, I pitched something around recently,

962
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: and someone at an unnamed network was like, yeah, yeah,

963
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, like we'll just kind of see what happens,

964
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: uh not as many people are kind of like doing

965
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: doing the woman thing. I think was the phrase that

966
00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: it was just.

967
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, doing the woman's thing, and like, I don't.

968
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: Know, it's it's funny because it has to be, but

969
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: you're just like I have also been kind of surprised

970
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: at how like open I feel like people in like

971
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: Hollywood spaces have been about the fact that, yeah, we're

972
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: not doing that anymore. But it was it was not

973
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: it was nice. Hope hope you enjoyed.

974
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

975
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like they just tell the story that

976
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 4: is convenient for them to tell, you know, So like

977
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 4: with gods, it would be convenient if people didn't actually

978
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 4: care or if like the thing wasn't actually happening, and

979
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 4: so they just like don't really cover it as though

980
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 4: it were happening. And with the you know, the future

981
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 4: of media, like it's they will get fired if they

982
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 4: tell stories that are you know, critical of the Trump administration,

983
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 4: and so they just don't and then pretend that stories

984
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 4: that are like within the values that Trump wants to

985
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 4: promote are are successful. You know, until they can't pretend otherwise.

986
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: The thing that is.

987
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 3: Sort of nice that is a tiny silver lining that

988
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: unfortunately many people's like lives and careers will be destroyed

989
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: in the meantime while this catches up is that you know,

990
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 3: this is another instance of the like facts don't care

991
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 3: about your feelings crowd. They will run into the fact eventually,

992
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: which is that you know, there is a limited audience

993
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 3: for this type of stuff, and sinners, things like Sinners

994
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 3: prove that there is. Literally they're throwing away opportunity cost

995
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 3: by not green lighting things like that, and you know

996
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: they are losing money, They are leaving money on the table.

997
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: That I mean, even like the lower brow targeted things

998
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: like Fast and Furious movies are a huge hit, and honestly,

999
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: like a big part of that is because there it's

1000
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: like a nearly United Colors of Benetton level like box casting,

1001
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 3: and they're in their cast, but it's there and it

1002
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 3: works and people want to see that. And until they

1003
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 3: can compel you to spend money on media that you

1004
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: may or may not want to watch, like, those will

1005
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 3: always be hits and they'll always be Oh, Hollywood, couldn't

1006
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 3: have seen it coming.

1007
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: But they're such a big precedent for this, yeah, with

1008
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler movies alone, Like it's yeah.

1009
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw The Sinners this weekend and it was

1010
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 4: like full. The theater is full, like you know a

1011
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 4: weekend where like it's in sixth place and people are like,

1012
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: when is Sinners going to come out on vod It's

1013
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 4: like people are still going to the theaters in mass

1014
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: to like see it, And I mean that yeah, like Sinners,

1015
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: I think Fast and Furious is a great example. And

1016
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 4: then like the counterpoint, like when I'm talking about like

1017
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: it being unfakable, let's say I get it's clearly not

1018
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 4: like they They're definitely able to like if they have

1019
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 4: a thing that some people are interested in seeing, they

1020
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 4: will you know invest in that. They will take church

1021
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 4: donations and like buy up theater seats just to you know,

1022
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: amplify it. But like The Daily Wire also tried to

1023
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 4: launch a film studio in the past couple of years

1024
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 4: and literally like it was like made thirty thousand dollars

1025
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 4: of like them just like buying up individual theaters like

1026
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 4: that that they probably just like paid for themselves because

1027
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 4: there's just not an audience where it's like so much

1028
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: like streaming content and shit like that, Like people will

1029
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 4: continue to like make the stuff that is like not

1030
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 4: risky for them to make and just like pay for

1031
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: it and then it just like goes and disappears into

1032
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 4: some fucking digital void. Yeah. Yeah, anyways, some daily Wire

1033
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 4: movies that are super underrated classics is what I'm getting at.

1034
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: But like, also like there is a way to make

1035
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 3: a like you know, Passion of the Christ, you know,

1036
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 3: is not a or whatever. It's a movie that normal

1037
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 3: people were like, oh I will see this. Yeah, also

1038
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 3: a bunch of writing freaks, but like normal people also

1039
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: were like I want to see this.

1040
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: You know what else We were talking about passionately Christ

1041
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 4: just last week, not because.

1042
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 5: As a party and because we think everybody should go

1043
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 5: back and give it another chance, because it actually about

1044
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 5: it's supposed to be like a Jesus going to Hell

1045
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 5: to like fight his way out of hell, like basically

1046
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 5: the South Park movie.

1047
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it's or Doom.

1048
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 3: It's sort of the plot of Doom.

1049
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's sound like Mel Gibbs was like, it's

1050
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: a psychedelic it's like an acid trip. Man. But the

1051
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 4: thing that our writer Jam was pointing out last week

1052
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 4: was that The Passion of the Christ like was actually

1053
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 4: you could view it as just being an early film

1054
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 4: in the torture core movie. Like it was like right

1055
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 4: at the kickoff of like the song Yeah, like Costal

1056
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 4: and all those movies, Like it was the first of those,

1057
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 4: so like you could just be like actually, like people

1058
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 4: were you know, being told to go see it because

1059
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 4: of their church. But then it was also just the

1060
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: first movie where it was like nothing happens except somebody

1061
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 4: is just like badly hurt repeatedly for like an hour,

1062
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 4: and you just like watch it. So I don't know,

1063
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: it's one theory.

1064
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: I still think, you know, the most the most religious

1065
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: I've ever been is watching Jesus Christ Superstar on a

1066
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: loop for an entire summer. But it had nothing to

1067
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: do with Jesus Christ. It was really all Superstar that

1068
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: I was there for.

1069
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it was all the Superstar. Come for

1070
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 4: the Superstar.

1071
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: They get you with the Jesus Jams, they get you

1072
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: with the Jesus Christ. But I do think I was

1073
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: talking about Jesus Christ Superstar with someone recently and it

1074
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: was like for all of the time I spent watching it,

1075
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: it did not change my relationship to Christianity whatsoever. Was

1076
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: still very disinterested and ambivalent towards it. But I was like,

1077
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, Jesus was an interesting guy. He could really

1078
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: hit some higher notes than you would expect.

1079
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 4: And all grand was incredible. You are one of my

1080
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 4: favorite people to hear, write and think about fame though,

1081
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 4: and so you dropped the Jesus Christ, but you you

1082
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 4: know the superstar part of it.

1083
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if any execs from the Daily Wire

1084
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: studios are listening, I am going out with my pitch

1085
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: for Jesus Christ to influence her just any time.

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Speaker 4: Very good. That could be very good. It's gritty and violent.

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Speaker 4: Jamie Loftus, what a pleasure having you on the Daily.

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Speaker 1: Zeitgeist always great to be back. You gotta go to Harrisburg, Jack.

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Speaker 4: I'm fucking up where I just threw up a little

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Speaker 4: bit o thinking about Harrisburg. Where can people find you?

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Speaker 4: Follow you all naked stuff?

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Speaker 1: You can find me and follow me really on Instagram

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Speaker 1: and Blue Sky, I guess would be the places at

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Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, I'm at just under my full name

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Speaker 1: at on Blue Sky and an Instagram at Jamie crist Superstar.

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Speaker 4: Look at that like that.

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Speaker 1: That's Brent's synergy. You can also find me physically at

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Speaker 1: the Snoopy busy. I'm in Santa Rosa, fucking just hanging

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Speaker 1: my membership card to come in. I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: That's so cute whatever on the card.

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Speaker 1: All of it's so cute. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 4: Is there another museum and research center with a fucking

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Speaker 4: ice rink in the middle of it?

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Speaker 1: It's got I hope so.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think Wwayne Gretzki one or something, but

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Speaker 4: this one's such a nice surprise.

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Speaker 3: It would be nice to get on the ice and

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Speaker 3: just get board checked so.

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Speaker 1: Hard I've been. They do like annual holiday ice shows,

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Speaker 1: so I was like, we.

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Speaker 4: Gotta go back.

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Speaker 1: We've got limitless opportunities to go.

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Speaker 4: Oh. I love it when Snoopy skates. It's so me too.

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Speaker 1: He's so good at it. Yeah, so that's you can

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Speaker 1: find me there soon, I hope.

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Speaker 4: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, let's what Actually, I it's it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a book of going old school.

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Speaker 4: Wow, the oldest form of media besides scrolls.

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Speaker 1: But I am I am revisiting a book I'd never

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Speaker 1: read before, but I feel like I've read sections of

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Speaker 1: over and over for years. No Logo by Nami Klein.

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Speaker 1: There's yeah, often quoted, but I just have never really

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Speaker 1: sat down with it. But I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like a gen xers Bible of sorts,

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Speaker 1: but I've never actually read No Logo and I'm in

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Speaker 1: the middle of it, and it's just like it's it's

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01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that you probably already know about

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01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: about branding and also just about manufacturing in general. But

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01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: it was written in nineteen ninety nine, and what's been

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Speaker 1: like the most interesting part of it for me is

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Speaker 1: just seeing how she will present these ideas as very

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Speaker 1: new where now it's like very Americanized ideas of like

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Speaker 1: contractors versus employees, outsourcing, manufacturing versus owning anything to like say,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just all of these things that are

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Speaker 1: she's describing in these communities in Sri Lanka and Indonesia

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Speaker 1: are what our friends in the US are dealing with now.

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01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: So real upper real good vibes coming off this book.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna leave uplifted, You're gonna be crying

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01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: tears of joy. But it's really good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's wild to read like books from the

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01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 4: late nineties that are like a paranoid masterpiece and it's like,

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Speaker 4: oh no, this is just this is.

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01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: Just what we live in, pretty straightforward, like yeah, it's

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01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: like this is literally just how uber drivers are forced

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Speaker 1: to work out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's great recommendation. And t is there a

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Speaker 4: working media you've been enjoying? And where can people find you? Uh?

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01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 3: Andrew Tea on places? I have been watching. The new

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 3: season of this British show called Taskmaster is on the

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01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 3: play they're putting on YouTube, I think as it goes

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01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 3: out now, and it's a it's a very silly show

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01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 3: that where like a panel of stand ups through a

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01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 3: season do these like very it's basically like like children's games,

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01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 3: not as in like you know, Monopoly or whatever, but

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01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: it's like if an eight year old made up a

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01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 3: game for you on the spot and you just had

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01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 3: to do it and take it seriously. It's like a

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Speaker 3: whole show of that.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 3: And this season Jason Manzukus is one of the Yes,

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Speaker 3: role weird.

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Speaker 1: I haven't watched it yet. That's so weirdly it makes

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01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: sense to me. Yeah, I think they figured it out,

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Speaker 1: it made sense.

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Speaker 3: If if an American comedian should have been on it,

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Speaker 3: I will just say I would have voted for Paula Tompkins.

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Speaker 3: But for sure Jason Manzukus makes plenty of sense as well,

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Speaker 3: and it's really good. The one thing about actually speaking

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Speaker 3: of do I I will say like British TV does

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01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 3: a much better job of just casting a wider array

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Speaker 3: of types of people, and the show is a great

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Speaker 3: example of that as well. But yeah, it's they're putting

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Speaker 3: it on YouTube, I think concurrent to when it comes out,

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Speaker 3: so it's it's handy for me.

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Speaker 4: I feel like Jason man Zukes always likes the stuff

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Speaker 4: that I like because he's obsessed with me. No, just

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Speaker 4: we have very similar media and I'm assuming you like

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01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 4: went on that show because he likes it, so yeah,

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 4: apparently he like he.

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Speaker 3: Just cold emailed the showrunner and was like, hey, can

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Speaker 3: I do the show?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Normally it's British people that are just due the round

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Speaker 3: of panel shows, but sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but they're like, well, since you asked so nicely, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome.

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Speaker 4: You can find me on Twitter, Jack Underscore, Obrian on

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Speaker 4: Blue Sky at jack Obe the number one workimedia i've

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Speaker 4: been in doing is Sinners. Have you guys seen Sinners? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, that's good. That's like a good It's like

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Speaker 4: a good movie. And then it has that like I

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Speaker 4: just I'm so glad I saw it before it left theaters.

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Speaker 4: The yeah, the music whatever happens in that one scene

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Speaker 4: in the middle and is an Irish ass jig for

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Speaker 4: you so many Oh my god, I had to I

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Speaker 4: had to hold myself down from getting up and jigging

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Speaker 4: in the aisles. That's the music part I'm talking about,

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Speaker 4: like that one scene. Yeah, of course I'm talking about

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Speaker 4: the Irish the jig, you guys, the fucking jig. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's it's you. You really have to see it, I

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Speaker 4: was saying on yesterdays training. Unless you have like the

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Speaker 4: most amazing like sound system, the sound is just like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: the way it like kind of moves around the theaters

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Speaker 4: like so fun and cool, and that's just do you

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Speaker 4: feel like you're high a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It looks so beautiful. So many movies look too ugly.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I should do that more, like make a thing

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Speaker 4: that looks really good, you know, instead of like shit

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Speaker 4: me crazy anyways, you can find us on Twitter and

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Speaker 4: Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist, where at the Daily Zeitgeist

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Speaker 4: on Instagram you can go to the description of the

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Speaker 4: episode wherever you're listening to it, and there you will

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Speaker 4: find the footnotes, which is where we link off to

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Speaker 4: the information that we talked about in today's episode. We

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Speaker 4: also link off to a song that we think you

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Speaker 4: might enjoy. With Miles out, we like to ask super

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Speaker 4: producer Justin Connor, Justin, is there a song that you

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Speaker 4: think the people might enjoy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this song is a little bit different from what

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Speaker 6: I usually recommend, although I have suggested a song from

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Speaker 6: this band before. They're a Chicago based group called Slow Pulp,

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Speaker 6: and this song has a fun grunge type of element

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Speaker 6: mixed into it.

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Speaker 2: They have kind of like a faramor vibe. But this

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Speaker 2: song compares.

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Speaker 6: Romance to feeling like a summer hit that you keep

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Speaker 6: playing on repeat in your head.

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Speaker 2: And I love the singer's voice.

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Speaker 6: And at about like one minute and thirty nine seconds

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Speaker 6: into the song, it sounds like she's saying my name

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Speaker 6: really intently, which I love. I've looked it up. She's

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Speaker 6: not saying my name, but it's it's very close. It

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Speaker 6: sounds like just Justin is being whispered into my ear

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Speaker 6: and I love it. So this track is called Slugs

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Speaker 6: by Slow Pope, and you can find that in the

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Speaker 6: footnotes Slow Pope, slow Pulpe, Sorry p.

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Speaker 1: U lp Yes, okay, so slow Pope is still available

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Speaker 1: as a band name.

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Speaker 4: Pope is yeah, yeah, because that would be amazing if

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Speaker 4: they're called slow Pope and they were from Chicagoo.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I hope the way I pronounced Pope isn't

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Speaker 6: some like Midwestern ething that I like fucked up and

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Speaker 6: now people are gonna I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think it's just where my brain went. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 4: it's this pope who we just got is from Chicago,

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Speaker 4: and I've never seen him run the forty. You know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's what what kind of foot

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Speaker 4: speed he's working with?

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Speaker 2: The should make him race to be the pope next to.

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Speaker 4: The conclave, shouldn't the NFL combine style in full robe

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01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 4: if you got to wear the hat and then see

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Speaker 4: like what hell what your standing vertical leap is?

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Speaker 1: It just saddens me that our pope is probably anti

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Speaker 1: ketchup if he's a real Chicago Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I co sign that, but I will defer

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Speaker 2: to you for all things hot.

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Speaker 3: Wait, do Chicagoans hate ketchup on everything?

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Speaker 4: On everything?

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Speaker 3: Or just hot dogs? Uh?

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Speaker 2: No, everything.

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Speaker 6: It's it's looked at as like a kid. Yeah, anything

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Speaker 6: anyone over the age of like five, And.

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Speaker 1: That's always the Chicago rash Atale is like, what are

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Speaker 1: you five years old? Are you little baby?

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Speaker 6: And I was like, come on, yeah, I've been indoctrinated.

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Speaker 2: I can't help it.

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Speaker 6: I co sign this, but uh yeah, I can see

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Speaker 6: a wall there and I will try to jump that

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Speaker 6: at some point, but it's it's hard for me to

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Speaker 6: get over there.

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Speaker 4: Ketchup so much, it's so good. What's your favorite? Like,

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Speaker 4: what's the one thing? If you you were only allowed

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Speaker 4: to have ketchup on one thing for the rest of

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Speaker 4: your life. Andrew Chili Crab Baby. I went to a

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Speaker 4: how pop up that was listen. It was very good.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the pop up, but I went to

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Speaker 3: this restaurant that people are.

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Speaker 4: Excited about it. I'm not going to name because there's

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Speaker 4: this little.

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Speaker 3: Criticism, but they made a take on Singapore Chili Crab.

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Speaker 4: And here's the thing. I think they were trying to like,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 3: Like upscale it a little bit, and it was very

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Speaker 3: clear that the sauce did not have the actual most

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Speaker 3: important ingredient, which is just fucking heinz ketchup.

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Speaker 4: And it was like nicer, but it was like I

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Speaker 4: was like, yeah, my ketchup. Yeah, brutal pines and coca cola,

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Speaker 4: the two things that like capitalism has. It's like we tried,

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Speaker 4: we really just like can't do better than one. Like

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Speaker 4: you guys, you guys did did it best?

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Speaker 2: Listen?

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01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 3: They took the cocaine out and it's still good, which

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Speaker 3: really says something.

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Speaker 1: It speaks rarely the case.

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Speaker 4: All Right, that is gonna do it for us. The

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