WEBVTT - Week 7 CFB Lookahead with Thor Nystrom (Ep 216)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome on into the Betting Pros College

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<v Speaker 1>Football look Ahead Show four Week seven. We're already halfway

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<v Speaker 1>through the college football season here and I'm Tom Biolan.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, I'm joined by none other than the God

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<v Speaker 1>of Thunder himself, Thornstrom, because we are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>taking a look at his look aheadlines and where he

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<v Speaker 1>is thinking for some of the biggest games on this

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<v Speaker 1>week's college football slate. Or I want to extend my

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<v Speaker 1>condolences as the show begins here. We were all pulling

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<v Speaker 1>for Kansas there at the end. They kept it close,

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<v Speaker 1>ended up with the push against the spread. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's little condolence for for what happened this week

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<v Speaker 1>against TCU.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's October ninth, and this is the first show

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<v Speaker 2>that we've done together. We're either Kansas or Syracuse has

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<v Speaker 2>a loss, so I mean that's a huge win I suppose,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a valiant effort for Kansas, so I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely can't be disappointed at all. And it's good to

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<v Speaker 2>be with you, Thomas.

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<v Speaker 1>That bean kid, I'll tell you he looked good. I

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<v Speaker 1>credit Kansas for not turtling when they went to their

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<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback. They stayed aggressive and he made a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the plays he needed to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great point that kid can play. And we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to this when we talk about Kansas Oklahoma. But

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<v Speaker 2>you can't downgrade Kansas a lot if their starting quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>is out because Jason Bean is a player. That kid

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<v Speaker 2>can absolutely play.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's get right in with that game, because Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>is taking on Oklahoma this week. They are seven point

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<v Speaker 1>dogs in Oklahoma, and I mean, you know, can't Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>got absolutely bush whacked by Texas this week. Can Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Yeah, I mean yes, They're a live dog. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>The enormous part of this handicap has to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback statuses on both sides. Obviously, is Dylan Gabriel

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<v Speaker 2>going to play on the Oklahoma Homa side? Is Jalen

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Only Daniel's going to play on the Kansas side

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<v Speaker 2>with Gabriel. There's been the thing about Oklahoma used to

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<v Speaker 2>have the two week mandatory sit out for the concussions

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<v Speaker 2>if it was a confirmed concussion diagnosis. I actually don't

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<v Speaker 2>know under the Venables regime if that's still in place.

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<v Speaker 2>If it is, like you know, I didn't stay in

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<v Speaker 2>a holiday express last night. But I'm pretty sure that

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<v Speaker 2>the Gabriel has a confirmed concussion diagnosis, so you would

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<v Speaker 2>think that that would mean that he would have to

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<v Speaker 2>sit out, But again I'm not sure if that protocol

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<v Speaker 2>is still in place under Venables, so stay tuned on

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<v Speaker 2>that one. And then with Daniels, he suffered the injury

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<v Speaker 2>in their last game when against CCU when he was

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<v Speaker 2>scrambling around at the right around the sideline and he

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<v Speaker 2>takes a sack and his right shoulder was driven into

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<v Speaker 2>the ground, which typically is a pretty ominous injury. Jason Bean,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was just mentioning, came in and played absolutely awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Was dropping dimes everywhere. And that was a case who

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<v Speaker 2>started earlier in his career at North Texas and was

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<v Speaker 2>also a track star as a prep in Texas. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only does he have a good arm, he is also

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<v Speaker 2>an awesome athlete. Like I was sort of teasing earlier

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<v Speaker 2>when we did the intros, I don't think you downgrade

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas a whole heck of a lot if Daniels is out,

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<v Speaker 2>if Gabriel is out, like as we've seen, you downgrade

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma quite a bit. Like you downgrade Oklahoma a touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>or more of if Gabriel is out, if Daniels is out,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a point on the Kansas side. So you have

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<v Speaker 2>to watch that that very closely, just in a vacuum.

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<v Speaker 2>My line on that game is Oklahoma minus six point

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<v Speaker 2>four live right now it's Oklahoma minus seven, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty close to the Vegas line, just showing that

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<v Speaker 2>the smallest amount of value on Kansas. But again, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to watch that very closely. Another thing I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>is Oklahoma. I mentioned this last week in some of

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<v Speaker 2>the episodes that we did, they have perilous depth issues

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<v Speaker 2>at linebacker. Right now they are down to four active,

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<v Speaker 2>healthy scholarship linebackers. That's another thing you have to watch

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<v Speaker 2>very closely. Regardless of what Kansas is quarterback situation, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be Bean or Daniels, Kansas does all the

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<v Speaker 2>motion stuff, gets people out moving around motion and and

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<v Speaker 2>then moves the quarterbacks out, uh, you know on the

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<v Speaker 2>bootlegs and stuff like that. Uh. They put the opposing

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<v Speaker 2>linebackers into conflict on every single play and and and

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<v Speaker 2>and venables. Uh. Going back to his Clemsed days, ask

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<v Speaker 2>so much of his linebackers the responsibility because he does

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<v Speaker 2>all these replacer, uh concepts where in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>blitzing and the coverage where where he'll blitz and then

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<v Speaker 2>he has, uh, you know, ask a different defender to

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<v Speaker 2>replace that person in in in the the alignment, which again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it asks a lot of the linebackers because

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<v Speaker 2>you have to, you know, do different things. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to put on different hats. Not only are your linebacker

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<v Speaker 2>and a different play you might ask to be a rusher,

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<v Speaker 2>you might ask to be you know, you know, have

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<v Speaker 2>have safety responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of different roles that have to go

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<v Speaker 1>on here for these linebackers, and they haven't shown so

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<v Speaker 1>far that they've been able to handle it. How much

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<v Speaker 1>longer do you think Venables really has especially if Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>pulls it off and manages to win this game, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with Jason Bean at quarterback that's own foreign conference play

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<v Speaker 1>for Oklahoma. I can't imagine Venables is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the most popular guy in town much longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I mean he's he's I mean, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it at least through the end of next year.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just because he's he's new, you're gonna give

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<v Speaker 2>him a little bit of leash. But this is not

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<v Speaker 2>a good start for Brent Vannaballs, you know, and like

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<v Speaker 2>when Lincoln left and you hired Venables, there's all the

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma fans being like, oh, you know, who cares that

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<v Speaker 2>Lincoln left? You know, we upgraded a coach, and those

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<v Speaker 2>folks are very quiet right now. This has been an

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely horrible start for Venables. I would argue right now

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<v Speaker 2>that Oklahoma might be the second worst team in the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Twelve, and it I mean, they are moving in

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<v Speaker 2>on being the worst team in the Big twelve. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the worst team in the Big Twelve right now

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<v Speaker 2>is West Virginia and it is becoming arguable between them

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<v Speaker 2>and West Virginia. Without Dylan Gabriel, Oklahoma probably is the

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<v Speaker 2>worst team in the Big twelve. This again, the status

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<v Speaker 2>of Dylan Gabriel is absolutely crucial for this game. If

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Gabriel doesn't play, Kansas is gonna beat Oklahoma. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just telling you right now, So you need to watch

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<v Speaker 2>that status very very closely. Getting the seven points, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like again, watch it closely. You might just want to

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<v Speaker 2>take it, like, you know, if you can see that

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<v Speaker 2>out there in the marketplace, because Kansas is live even

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<v Speaker 2>playing Gabriel, But like, if Gabriel's out that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>gift getting seven points with Kansas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm tempted to take that line now and

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<v Speaker 1>then hope because would you say that this line with

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<v Speaker 1>Gabriel playing should be around seven?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, so it's a fair line. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So then for me right now, I'm looking to take

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas and get some action on this game early and

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<v Speaker 1>then I mean, you don't want to hope that someone's injured, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and these are college kids, we want them to be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're gonna take the Kansas, this is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the best time that you're gonna want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But how about Penn State versus Michigan. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a classic Big ten battle here. I personally think Penn

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<v Speaker 1>State's a little bit overrated. I don't trust this team ever,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's probably jading my bias a little bit here.

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<v Speaker 1>But Michigan is getting just seven points in this game

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<v Speaker 1>in the Big House, that line feels wrong to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it feels a little bit short to

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<v Speaker 2>me too. It was funny. I was watching the Viking

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<v Speaker 2>game earlier with the Michigan alum and he had asked

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<v Speaker 2>me what I thought that spread would be, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was higher when I guessed it, then then it turned

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<v Speaker 2>out to be So I'm definitely with you on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan has impressed me quite a bit this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>and Penn State they've just been you know, they've they've

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just been kind of man. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like the last and they are coming off of a

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<v Speaker 2>buy so maybe you know, like there's an idea that

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to come in rest it or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 2>like the last time that we saw them, they were

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<v Speaker 2>beating Northwestern by ten points at home, you know, sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a thing that the offense isn't terribly explosive, they

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<v Speaker 2>can't take the top off of the defense. The rushing

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<v Speaker 2>attack has gotten marginally better, the running back room has

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<v Speaker 2>gotten marginally better, the offensive line has gotten marginally better.

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't neither of them scare you, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because I mean where they were coming from

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<v Speaker 2>was all really really bad. It's just not a team

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<v Speaker 2>that that terrifies me. And and Michigan is still a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff contender. So yeah, I mean for me, that play

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<v Speaker 2>be Michigan or nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you trust over Michigan or Ohio State. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's the classic rivalry there, but is Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>really at that same level.

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan's not at Ohio State's level. For if it was

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<v Speaker 2>that game on a neutral for me, it would depend

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<v Speaker 2>on what the line is. But it's not to the

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<v Speaker 2>degree where I would disqualify Michigan. They're still both at

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<v Speaker 2>the near levels where they were at recently. And obviously

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<v Speaker 2>we saw what I mean like, it's how would I

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<v Speaker 2>put it? Michigan still has the puncher's chance and last

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<v Speaker 2>time Hassan Haskins knocked out Ohio State, so it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's still that sort of situation where you absolutely wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>discount Michigan and Michigan State. Michigan could absolutely still win.

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<v Speaker 1>How about Auburn versus Ole Miss? Here should be an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting game? Be his Ole Miss is at least the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth ranked team in the nation right now. Be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>is not quite the word because Auburn's disappointed this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But should All Miss be a sixteen point favorite in

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<v Speaker 1>this SEC showdown?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's fair. My line on it is

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<v Speaker 2>Old Miss minus fifteen, uh and you know, and it

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<v Speaker 2>being up to six, I think that's a fair tax

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<v Speaker 2>because of the the Brian Harson thing. You know, every

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<v Speaker 2>single week, I'm waiting for Auburn to quit on him,

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<v Speaker 2>and for Auburn then to to fire Brian Harson and

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<v Speaker 2>and and we'll see when that ends up happening. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it's fair. And and mister b you

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<v Speaker 2>know that they've looked pretty good, you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know last week, uh they you know, early on

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<v Speaker 2>Vanderbilt was playing with him, but then uh, ole Miss

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<v Speaker 2>turned it on at the end, and then Lane Kiffin

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<v Speaker 2>the the very humorous thing at the end of that

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<v Speaker 2>game of very clearly overtly going for the cover and

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<v Speaker 2>then getting it. Uh you know, I I think I

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<v Speaker 2>would lean towards ole Miss in that game. And I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely would not be back in Auburn anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, how about let's talk about him. We already talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Oklahoma, but Texas now takes on Iowa State here

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<v Speaker 1>as fourteen point favorites for the question that we all

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<v Speaker 1>want to know, is Texas back?

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<v Speaker 2>Texas? Texas getting closer and closer to being back for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>But like last week, you know, I think that in

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<v Speaker 2>the court of public opinion, they're they're probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>be inflated a bit because of last week's result. Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 2>obviously is way down and circumstantially they cut Oklahoma in

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<v Speaker 2>an all time spot last week without Gabriel, with where

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<v Speaker 2>the linebacker spot is, and and and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>different positions. Like I was I was mentioning before, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they got Texas had gotten back Quinn Viewers,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were back at full strength. But this Texas

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<v Speaker 2>team is really good. It's the best incarnation of Texas

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<v Speaker 2>that we've seen for the past few years. This Texas

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<v Speaker 2>team is good. Is it back to the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the to the degree that it's a playoff contender? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure about that, but they are pretty good. Quinn

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<v Speaker 2>Ewers is for real and b Jon Robinson is the

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<v Speaker 2>best running back in America. So like, you do have

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff, and they can play defense as well, like

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<v Speaker 2>we saw that against Alabama. I'm not gonna say we

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<v Speaker 2>saw that against Oklahoma because I don't think that Oklahoma

0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:27.439
<v Speaker 2>offense run by Davis Bevel and whatnot. I don't think

0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.920
<v Speaker 2>they could have scored on u Ellman Roe. But you know,

0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.920
<v Speaker 2>they're back to a reasonable degree. Iowa State they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to require Texas to play a different kind of a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa State, They're going they drag every team out into

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<v Speaker 2>deep waters. They don't want to play a football game.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to do a rock fight every every different

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<v Speaker 2>team that they play, it's a rock fight. Iowa, Iowa

0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.800
<v Speaker 2>plays rock fights with everybody. So but Kansas State was

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<v Speaker 2>a rock fight every single you know team. So so

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to do a shootout with Texas. If

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<v Speaker 2>Texas thinks they're going to do a shootout with Iowa State,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be sadly mistaken. This is this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a low scoring kind of a game, a methodical game.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be looking more at the under I think,

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<v Speaker 2>than than the side of this one. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>probably Iowa State is more of a live dog than

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<v Speaker 2>this line is going to be, indicating my numbers would

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<v Speaker 2>are more bullish on Texas than I would be personally,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I respect Iowa State more of what I

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<v Speaker 2>think the game script and the game flow of this

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<v Speaker 2>game could be. I think Iowa State has a shot

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<v Speaker 2>to ambush Texas in this game, particularly for Texas coming

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<v Speaker 2>off of that exhilarating win over Oklahoma and a week

0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:50.200
<v Speaker 2>of Texas is back, people pumping their tires off of

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<v Speaker 2>just annihilating Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna start feeling that hype now, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you can really start a team. And iwa was

0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.600
<v Speaker 1>State like they've done it before. They they've gone into

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<v Speaker 1>people's houses and been a cyclone before and taking out

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<v Speaker 1>some of these teams. I think this could be another spot.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so? Yeah, I mean this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>the classic Texas letdown spot. It's the classic Iowa State

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<v Speaker 2>ambush spot. Just sort of the confluence of both lining up.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, for me, like I think I would be

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<v Speaker 2>looking to maybe nibble on the Iowa State both the

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<v Speaker 2>spread and maybe even the money line. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like people are gonna be betting on Texas all week,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't even think you need to bet on

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa State early. The line's uh Texas mind is fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, like I feel like this thing's probably gonna

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<v Speaker 2>toggle up over that. So you know, for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be waiting until it gets to fourteen and a

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<v Speaker 2>half before you know, I look to fire the bullet.

0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.200
<v Speaker 2>But That's what I'm gonna be looking for in that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's talk about some really big games this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it doesn't get bigger than this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighteen versus fifteen, you know what I'm talking about. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>we got syracusan and SEE State going at it in

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<v Speaker 1>the Loud House, the JMA Wireless Dole, as it has

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<v Speaker 1>always been known. Where are you going in this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Because right now Syracuse favored by four and a half

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<v Speaker 1>over NC State. I was not expecting this. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a lot being considered with the fact that

0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Syracuse had that incredible win over Wagner, which isn't something

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<v Speaker 1>to often say about an opponent of that caliber. But

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<v Speaker 1>anytime that you get the other team to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can we shot the quarters to ten minutes for the

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<v Speaker 1>second half, you're doing something right. But NC State, even

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<v Speaker 1>coming off that that loss to Clemson and then that

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<v Speaker 1>game against Florida State that didn't quite go how they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted it to, they're still a good team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I feel like people are gonna look at

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<v Speaker 2>this and you know, like when when they're looking down

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<v Speaker 2>the betting card and they're they're gonna see Syracuse favored

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<v Speaker 2>by you know, four or whatever against NC State an

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<v Speaker 2>NT State team that's coming off of Syracuse favored by

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<v Speaker 2>four and a half, and NC State team, a five

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<v Speaker 2>and one NC State team coming off of a two

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<v Speaker 2>point win over Florida State, and they're gonna be scratching

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<v Speaker 2>their heads, like Syracuse favor by four and a half

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<v Speaker 2>over NC State. The context that people need to keep

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<v Speaker 2>in mind not necessarily the Syracuse win over Wagner, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but maybe maybe a little bit. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's more the Devin Leary injured injury for for NC State.

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<v Speaker 2>In an addition to that, NC State's wide receiver, to Carter,

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<v Speaker 2>he got injured in the game against Florida State, and

0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.240
<v Speaker 2>and NC State's running back got injured in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>So NC State is dealing with with several injuries right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're recording this on Sunday night. We'll have to see

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<v Speaker 2>NC State's injury report in the coming days to see

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<v Speaker 2>who's in who's out. But that's a team that's dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with a rash of injuries right now. Want to see

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, like what team they end up trotting out,

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<v Speaker 2>but that could be a seriously under manned team heading

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<v Speaker 2>into Syracuse. Syracuse is coming off of a bye. They're

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<v Speaker 2>in the Wagner game, so basically two buys, so they

0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.440
<v Speaker 2>are fresh as a daisy going up against a team

0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.040
<v Speaker 2>that is badly beat up and seriously decimated. So it's

0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.440
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at it. You know what was that book

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<v Speaker 2>tail of two city sort of a thing? Syracuse is

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<v Speaker 2>in a very very advantageous situation to remain undefeated, which

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<v Speaker 2>which explains everything you need to know about that line.

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<v Speaker 2>If both of these teams were at full strength on

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<v Speaker 2>a neutral field, this line might be totally flipped. But

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<v Speaker 2>that is not what this scenario is. It's Syracuse at

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<v Speaker 2>home in the situation that we discussed, and the line

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<v Speaker 2>is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Thor, I'm excited, I'm scared. I'm probably not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bet this game because I've already got too much riding

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<v Speaker 1>on it from an emotional standpoint, But oh man, this

0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.680
<v Speaker 1>would be a sweet one to see. Now. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it back up here, but we had to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about TCU because they're gonna be an interesting one

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<v Speaker 1>against Oklahoma State. Here they're laying three and a half

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<v Speaker 1>at home, but Oklahoma State has been good so far

0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.000
<v Speaker 1>this season. Where are you going in this one? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you riding with the horn Frogs, or are you thinking

0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that Oklahoma State's gonna get them in this spot after

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<v Speaker 1>that big game that they just had.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you wonder in this one is is TCU? Like

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<v Speaker 2>when is TCU gonna? Is TCU gonna have a letdown spot? Right? Like?

0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Like TCU just keeps the bar keeps raising for them.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a team over the summer that I was

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<v Speaker 2>harping on over and over again that I was extremely

0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.520
<v Speaker 2>high on, and they keep even going over my bar.

0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.720
<v Speaker 2>But again, like is there a letdown spot coming for them?

0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Like last week they go into Lawrence, they they on

0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.320
<v Speaker 2>college game Day, they beat an undefeated team on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, now they're coming back home. But like you know,

0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:57.359
<v Speaker 2>you know a lot of times you'd be like, is

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<v Speaker 2>this gonna be a letdown spot after you just went

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<v Speaker 2>in that electric atmosphere? But like you know, I mean,

0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.120
<v Speaker 2>like they haven't had a letdown spot. Yeah, they've had

0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.679
<v Speaker 2>other big wins you know this year and and and

0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.680
<v Speaker 2>haven't had it yet. And then meanwhile for Olklahoma State,

0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean they've also been a team that that has

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<v Speaker 2>had several big wins this year and they've just kept

0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.320
<v Speaker 2>the momentum going. So so it's it's it's it's another

0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.440
<v Speaker 2>one of these two teams that have just kept building

0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.080
<v Speaker 2>and building and building. Oklahoma State for me, is sort

0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.359
<v Speaker 2>of the opposite tc For me, Uh, TCU is a

0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.439
<v Speaker 2>team that I've been higher on than the market throughout

0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma State, I've been wrong about the entire time. So

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<v Speaker 2>I've been you know, I'm pumping my own tires about

0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.119
<v Speaker 2>my TCU. Take. I got to go to the opposite. I've

0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.880
<v Speaker 2>been wrong about Oklahoma State. Like I thought Oklahoma State

0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.600
<v Speaker 2>was was was not going to be. I thought they

0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 2>were gonna be way down this year because they had

0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.280
<v Speaker 2>lost so many guys on defense, and I and and

0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't trust Spencer Petross so last year that they

0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:52.960
<v Speaker 2>were you know, totally led by the foot of their

0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.200
<v Speaker 2>their dominant defense, and they had lost Malcolm Rodriguez and

0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.000
<v Speaker 2>all these different guys on their defense, and I didn't

0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.439
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think that spent Petross could do it. And

0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Spencer Petross has gotten way better. Like like I'm I'm

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 2>shocked when I watch Spencer Petross this year. He has

0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.760
<v Speaker 2>actually become like a solid singular quarterback. And and this

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 2>year that they don't have like Jalen Warren, for instance,

0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.359
<v Speaker 2>on offense, like to you know, to give all the

0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.639
<v Speaker 2>usage to and Spencer Spencer Sanders is doing it. He

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:25.240
<v Speaker 2>hadn't even had like uh bray like that, like uh

0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the receiver been been injured and stuff like that, and

0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.119
<v Speaker 2>and and Sanders still doing it. And the defense been

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.159
<v Speaker 2>a little bit better than than I've thought it was

0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.879
<v Speaker 2>gonna be. And that's a credit to the coaching staff

0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:41.840
<v Speaker 2>as well. This one is tough for me because my

0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.719
<v Speaker 2>line is is is pretty close. I actually give the

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<v Speaker 2>the the slight line value to Oklahoma State, at least

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.320
<v Speaker 2>where the line is right now. My line in this

0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.119
<v Speaker 2>game is TCU minus one point nine. It's it's a

0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.520
<v Speaker 2>game that I'm gonna be digging into this week, you know,

0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and and and try to gauge short of where both

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.479
<v Speaker 2>teams heads. A rat but a very interesting game on

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Saturday afternoon in the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, a game that I want to talk about next.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not two ranked teams, but certainly two brand names

0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:15.640
<v Speaker 1>here in Florida versus LSU Florida. They're not doing too

0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 1>badly here. They lost to Kentucky and Eastern Washington. Not

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Eastern Washington. I'm looking at the wrong game. They lost

0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:25.040
<v Speaker 1>to Kentucky and Tennessee, they beat Eastern Washington, and they're

0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:29.000
<v Speaker 1>coming off the win against Missou this week here and

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>going up against LSU and this one. This a couple

0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:34.800
<v Speaker 1>of years ago, you'd be talking about a potential one

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.640
<v Speaker 1>to two matchup right here in this game, they're gay,

0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.400
<v Speaker 1>They're laying two and a half points against the Tigers

0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:46.040
<v Speaker 1>in this spot. And is Florida still good despite the

0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 1>fact that they're obviously not ranked at this point. They've

0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.640
<v Speaker 1>had those two top twenty five losses. They did beat

0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Utah in the first week. What's your opinion on this

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Gators team.

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm fading Florida. This is one where I'm sitting dead

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:03.520
<v Speaker 2>red on LSU. I think the line is, well, I'll

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.679
<v Speaker 2>just put it this way. My numbers favorite LSU, and

0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I think in the marketplace, LSU might be favored right

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 2>now had last week, had the result not been what

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.960
<v Speaker 2>it was with LSU. They ended up getting smoke lash

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.480
<v Speaker 2>last week, and it is what it is. I think

0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee spanked him at home the LSU last forty to thirteen.

0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:30.320
<v Speaker 2>But I still think that LSU is a solid team

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 2>and Florida's result wasn't much more impressive. They barely got

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 2>by Missouri at home. I don't like that Florida team.

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't most people watch Anthony Richardson in that opener

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 2>put on the Superman Cape against Utah. He's reverted back

0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:50.359
<v Speaker 2>to you know what he was previously for the you

0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:53.880
<v Speaker 2>know ever since then, basically of just being the super

0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 2>duper inconsistent player that has placement issues, decision making issues,

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean like pocket awareness issues that the whole gamut.

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.879
<v Speaker 2>He certainly you know, still has the ceiling and everything

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 2>like that. He certainly flashes, but like again, you still

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:19.160
<v Speaker 2>have the vacillation with him. I just don't trust that team.

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't And with LSU, I trust them marginally more,

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I guess is the way that I would say that

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I like them a bit more and I think that

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 2>they match up better in this game, and so I'm

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna take LSU in that one, even though that they're

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:36.879
<v Speaker 2>on the road. You know.

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of another team that might be a tad overrated,

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm just surprised. James Madison is the first season at

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>this level and they're already ranked twenty fifth in the nation.

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>That seems just a tad insane to me, they're going

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>up against Georgia Southern is ten and a half point

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.959
<v Speaker 1>road favorites here. Do you think this line is what

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it should be or are people just buying into the

0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.720
<v Speaker 1>hype of this team that is, I mean, it's a

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>great story, but are they actually good enough to be

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a top twenty five team?

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 2>That line's didn't played it. My line on that game

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 2>is James Madison minus seven point two. Georgia Southern's legit, uh,

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 2>which is crazy for me to say in the first

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 2>year of of Clay held and they're taking over that

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:23.919
<v Speaker 2>triple option roster, but they can actually play. And and

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 2>speaking to that for a second, they're Chorgia Southern is

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.880
<v Speaker 2>throwing the ball even more than Mississippi State is, which

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.440
<v Speaker 2>which is just bizarre. And they're they're they're they're doing

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 2>it just as well. But that's that's a story for

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 2>another time. James Madison is is good. They're really good.

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 2>They've they've they played awesome and they've played way better

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 2>than than I than I thought they would. But again,

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 2>like I think the market now is is taking it

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 2>a bit too far. And and I think you know,

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 2>for the sports books, at a certain point you have

0:24:55.600 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 2>to start uh uh charging the tax on them because

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 2>the sportsbooks are starting to get nicked on James Madison.

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 2>So you have to you have to start incentivizing people

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 2>to bet on the other side because you've lost money

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 2>in some of the recent weeks on the James Madison

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 2>thing because they're covering every week. So again you have

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 2>to push people to the other side. I mean, this

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 2>happens when you have a team that's covering every single week.

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 2>But I think that's what explains the discrepancy here. But objectively,

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 2>you're getting about three points of line value if you

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.160
<v Speaker 2>want to bet on Georgia Southern for me, that would

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 2>be the side at be on.

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I feel like you're completely spot on there

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>with the fact that when you have a team covered

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 1>by this much, the books are going to go, Okay,

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>we need to we need to reevaluate a little bit

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 1>and start shading this a little bit the other way because,

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like you said, they want to get money on the

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>other side. Here. Now, this next game up, we've got

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Clemson at four now in the rankings, going up against

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Florida State, who of course is fallen out after that

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>loss to NC State. Here this number right now is

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>going to be four points in favor of the Tigers.

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Florida State. Florida State, can they do it?

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Probably? Probably not. My line on this game is is

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Clemson minded six? But at least you give you give

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Florida State the puncher's chance. We'll have to see. On

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Brian bresays uh status Clemson stud defensive lineman. He missed

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:32.360
<v Speaker 2>another game this past Saturday. Uh, he missed the Boston

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 2>College game. He's now missed two straight games with his

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:40.640
<v Speaker 2>his non football medical. Uh. If you he's a big

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 2>deal for them. They Clemson has had the upfront injuries.

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I think Xavier Thomas came back for Clemson on on Saturday,

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:53.160
<v Speaker 2>but they Clemson has had the shuttlings in their front

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 2>seven that they've had all these different injuries. But that's

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:57.719
<v Speaker 2>something to keep an eye on. Brian Brees is one

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>of the he might be the best defensive tackle on America,

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 2>but if not, he's one of the three or four best.

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 2>So his injury status is certainly something to keep an

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 2>eye on, especially against his Florida State team that runs

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 2>the ball so well. I mean Mike Norve going back

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 2>several you know, going back to his Memphis days teams

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 2>are you know, one of the best rushing coaches in

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the nation. But speaking to that, the running back for

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 2>them Ward got injured in the last game, So that's

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 2>another status thing that you're going to have to keep

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 2>an eye on in this one. But I think I

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 2>would lean Clemson in this one. Florida State did not

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.400
<v Speaker 2>look very good in their last one against NC State,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 2>and then we talked about NC State before. NC State

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>had suffered all of those injuries in that game. And

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 2>that's an NC State team that looked terrible the week

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>before against Clemson. They had lost by ten in that game,

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.719
<v Speaker 2>but they NC State had scored the garbage touchdown at

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 2>the very end, so really it's more like a seventeen

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 2>point loss and you're like, well, you know that's it

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 2>was to Clemson. But I can bake in the context

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>the Clemson was basically playing with their second string defense

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.120
<v Speaker 2>in that game because they Clemson had ruled out all

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 2>of these defenders, Like you can go back and look

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 2>at the you know, like who they played in that game.

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 2>They'd ruled out all these different starters in that game.

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 2>So so NC State was basically playing against it you know,

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot, a lot of these second stringers or whatever.

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Not an impressive performance by NC State. And and then

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, Florida State then loses to NC State when

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 2>NC State was you know, had lost you know, Leary

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 2>and the running back and then the wide receiver two

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>and with down some of these other guys whatever. I think,

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, Clemson, especially if if you know now now

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:48.479
<v Speaker 2>they are they have way, they're way healthier than they

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 2>were back then. I and and now Florida State might

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 2>be without their running back. I like Clemson in that one.

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Now, Kentucky, I mean, we've already talked about a couple

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 1>of them. It's the basketball blue bloods playing football and

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>playing it well right now. A couple of weeks ago,

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about how, oh, look at all these

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>teams Duke, UCLA, Kentucky four, and oh Syracuse obviously, but

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>no one was giving him any credit. But I'm not

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>bitter or anything about that. Now, all of a sudden,

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky two straight losses here to Ole miss and the

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>game Cocks. They go to play Mississippi State now in

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a battle of twenty two versus sixteen to Kentucky still

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>even be ranked at twenty second after two straight losses

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>like this, and should they be getting six points or

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>should they be getting more at home against Mississippi State

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>in the spot.

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's all of those questions are dependent on is

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>we'll leave it as we will leave us healthy or not?

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Right like, cause if we'll leave us, if we'll leave

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>us plays we can sell Carolina. They beat South Carolina

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>and then those are all mute. And then if he

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>plays again, you know, against Missippi State, it's it's a

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 2>different story. And his status, It's like all all that

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 2>stuff is dependent on that, right, Like if he plays

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 2>in this game, like I'm taking the what is it

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 2>that the six points? But if he doesn't play, I'm

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>laying for sure with Mississippi State, Like Mississippi State is

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 2>going to beat the heck out of Kentucky if it's

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>that kid Sharona or whoever that Kentucky was playing, will

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 2>leave us. The difference between will leave us and the

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>backup of Kentucky it's worth double It's legitimately where double

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>dated points that the backup of Kentucky stinks. And they

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, they were, I mean, like Chris Rodriguez, he

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 2>was doing his best out there, you know, I mean,

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>like he ran for against South Carolina ran for like

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty yards or one hundred and twenty

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 2>five years. He was still grinding it out, but there

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 2>was absolutely no threat of the pass. And South Carolina

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 2>a team that has had terrible trend play on both

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>sides of the ball, they were They still controlled that

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 2>game that like the entire way on the road. And

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>Missippi State is a far so period team to South Carolina.

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 2>So I mean again, this game is highly dependent on

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 2>will Leavis's status. That's the thing that people need to monitor.

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 2>If you think that will Leaves is not going to

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 2>play in this game, you need to bet on miss

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 2>You need to lay the points and take the value

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>before that that's announced. But if you think that the

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>leave is gonna play, absolutely take the points. Well, there's

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>still value because when when the news comes out about that,

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be line movement. So if you get information beforehand,

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>take the value now.

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Thor you know what my favorite bet of the week is,

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that's out USC versus Utah. Should Utah win this game,

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I will bet you any amount of money. Then we

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>will hear the pundits on TV going on a number

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty Utah upsets number seven USC. What a game, blah

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. They're gonna call it a big upset, but

0:31:55.800 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not because Utah is laying four points against the

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Trojans here. And yeah, the Trojans, they are seventh in

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the nation right now.

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>But you look at their.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Schedule, Rice, Stanford, Fresno State, barely squeak by Oregon State,

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>then you had the big win over Arizona State, and

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>then of course they go out they beat Washington State

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>last week third well yesterday, thirty to fourteen. But now

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they go to play the Utes, and the Utes are

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>laying four in this one as the twentieth ranked team

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>in the nation. I guarantee you if they win this game,

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be calling an upset when it is not.

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>But do you think that the Utes can pull this

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>one out? Is this line where it should be?

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I mean they certainly can. They're a team

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 2>that the profiles decently well against USC. The way that

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Whittingham has always constituted his defense, it was a direct

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 2>response to spread offenses. And you know, I mean obviously

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>that's what Lincoln runs. Does that mean that they're going

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 2>to be, you know, not necessarily but like and then

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 2>also on offense, they run the the physical doubt hill

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>running game and uh, we'll see how how us he's

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, new Look defense, how it deals with that.

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 2>I would have been concerned if tav On Thomas, the

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Utah running the you know, the the big physical downhill

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 2>running back of Utah, if he wasn't playing in this game.

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 2>But even though he was questionable, and even up to kickoff,

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 2>there was these questions, Uh, when they were playing U

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>C l A on Saturday, is tab On Thomas going

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 2>to play? Which I didn't even know that he you know,

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 2>he was, he was questionable before that game, but then

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 2>he ended up playing, so you know, I guess that

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>he's you know, he's fine. So he is going to

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 2>pose a problem for for U S defense. Utah is

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>going to ride him. Uh there, So I mean, does

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Utah absolutely they got a shot. This is it's you know,

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 2>there's the the UFC saying of styles make fights. This

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>is a fascinating stylistic fight. You have the the you know,

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 2>the the the the the burly brawler type in in

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Utah against your more stylish kind of fighter in in

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 2>in Usc. This is for me that this is a

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 2>handicap I'm gonna get into all week because I don't

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think this is one you gotta bet early

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 2>in the week right now that there's no value on

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 2>this line at all. My adjusted number on this one

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 2>right now is Utah minus four point three line right

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 2>now in the market is Utah minus four. It's it's

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:36.919
<v Speaker 2>right there. So but yeah, it's it's one to dig

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 2>in for the week. But yeah, I mean, either of

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 2>these two teams could could win, and it's again, uh,

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 2>totally opposite strategies, and it's gonna be one of those

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 2>two opposing forces, uh locking horns on Saturday.

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Now, the last game that we want to talk about here,

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the biggest one of the week, well second biggest mind

0:34:56.040 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>syracusancy State. But you know who's counting Alabama against Tennessee.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the balls ranked sixth in a long time,

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>my friend, But here we are in this one, and

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Bama did not look great last week, and they dropped

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:14.800
<v Speaker 1>all the way down to three. They're getting, they're getting,

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>They're laying seven and a half points going into Tennessee here.

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's three versus six. But is Tennessee really

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.959
<v Speaker 1>all that good? Is Tennessee living up to the hype

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:28.399
<v Speaker 1>here this season? For you? Are they where they should be?

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>They've got the wins over Ball State, pitt Akron, Florida,

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and LSU, neither of which are now ranked. I don't know.

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>This resume isn't jumping off the page to me? Should

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>they be six there? Should they be getting more than

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:44.320
<v Speaker 1>seven and a half against Bama?

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee's good. Tennessee's good for sure. The the win against LSU,

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>you know in Baton rouge by was it twenty seven?

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 2>That was the one for me? That was like the

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 2>way like the alarm bell one of like this team

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 2>is legit. The game against Alabama. You know, we talked

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 2>about a couple of games this week where it comes

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 2>down to a player status. This is probably the biggest one.

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah Young?

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Is Bryce Young gonna play if if this whole game

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 2>comes down to that, if Tennessee gets Jalen Milrow, uh,

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I might even favorite Tennessee like ol right right, but

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 2>if they're playing Bryce Young, this line should be Alabama

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 2>by double digits. And and and what I think that

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Vegas has done with this line, It's essentially split the baby, right,

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 2>like you know, installing Alabama as seven and a half

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 2>point favorites at Tennessee. Right if if if if they

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 2>if Alabama comes out and says Bryce Young playing, I

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 2>think you're gonna see this line tick up to Alabama

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 2>minus ten and a half or eleven, maybe even a

0:36:56.760 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>little bit above real quick. But if he's ruled out,

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 2>it gonna drop real quick. So I mean, like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I think has happened here is is you're dropping

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<v Speaker 2>it right in the middle until we see Nick Saban

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna tell anybody. He played some games with Jimbo

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:18.440
<v Speaker 2>last week, which I loved with just chef's kiss. He

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't say anything all week, and then game time was

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:27.439
<v Speaker 2>just absolutely fabulous. Didn't say anything. I didn't. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think there was any chance that that Bryce Young was

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna play. He has an ac joint sprain of his

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>throwing shoulder. Quin Hears has an ac joint sprain of

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>his non throwing shoulder, and he's out for three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like they're no shot to Bryce Young gonna

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<v Speaker 2>play the next week. And then they announced Bryce Young

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 2>as the starter on the PA system thirty minutes before

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 2>at the game, I get in all these text messages

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, no way, no way, no way, and

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and you know it's crazy. And then of course Milroe

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, actually trots out with the starters like

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>when you know they take their first snap. Just epic

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 2>trolling by by Nick Saban. But we'll see in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>We we don't know, we we we have we have

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely no idea. And ac joint spring is not something

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<v Speaker 2>that categorically takes you out. It's a pain threshold injury

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>that you theoretically can play through, uh through a combination

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 2>of again pain tolerance dash uh taking uh one of

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>them shots, you know, sort of a thing. It's it's

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>both your biology and then also you know if if

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you take something that can mitigate the pain, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's we'll see, you know, I mean, he got

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 2>what five more six more days to see. But whether

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Bryce Young is playing is going to go a long

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.320
<v Speaker 2>way towards towards this handicap and also the result of

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>the game. But right now, with where that line is,

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 2>it is very clear that the sports books are splitting

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the baby. You need to monitor Bryce young status. But

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:55.439
<v Speaker 2>right now, with where that is, this is a very

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 2>fair line that has been put out there.

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>That play called by Jimbo Fisher at the end of

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the game final plays one of the worst things. They

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't even to the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>So dumb. So you have a shot, You have a shot, man,

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 2>yet you didn't take it. Yeah, you you actually had

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 2>a shot to win that game. You actually had a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah. Oh man, yeah, I mean I'm not an

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 2>a and M fan. I don't care.

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's always nice to see Bamba go down.

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't care either way.

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.720
<v Speaker 2>But but it's like, uh, just for the sport of football.

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 2>You're like, man, I mean, why aren't you trying to win? Man, Like,

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 2>don't you at least put the ball in the end

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 2>zone at least give yourself the best shot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's it's just one of those where you're just

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<v Speaker 2>like frustrated for fairness.

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, it was more frustrating than the Thursday Night

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Football Russell Wilson absolutely horrible fourth down play on the

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>goal line there. But it is what it is, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're onto the next week here and that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it for us, ladies and gentlemen. Those the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest games of the week thor thank you so much

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.479
<v Speaker 1>for your thoughts as always. Of course, if people want

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<v Speaker 1>to find you and what you're doing around the internet

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.600
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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the week, they can head onto

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>your Twitter at thor ku you're gonna be posting there

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>all the time. One of the best cats. Seriously, guys,

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>give him a follow. You don't want to miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course this Wednesday night, the podcast is gonna

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 1>drop with you and Scott Bogman, where you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>detailing the weekend ahead. We got a more clear picture

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>of the lines at this point. And of course Saturday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>right and early seven am Pacific time ten am Eastern,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are breaking down the day's slate of games,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that everybody has exactly what they need to

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<v Speaker 1>get through the weekend ahead. It was another great show

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<v Speaker 1>this week with Mike Farrell and you can look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to another one next week on the Betting Pros YouTube page,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't forget to follow Betting Pros at Betting Pros

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and thor Thanks again so much for being

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>with us here, guys. Best of luck this week and

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<v Speaker 1>let's catch some tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>M