Speaker 1: Hello, Hey there. What's your name?
Speaker 2: My name is Logan.
Speaker 1: Logan. How you doing, Logan? What's up?
Speaker 2: This is This is Lyle?
Speaker 1: Right, yep, this is Lyle. This is me. It's weird
Speaker 1: to it's weird to have a name, it's weird to
Speaker 1: be alive. It's uh, it's too psychedelic. I've been I've
Speaker 1: been having too many psychedelic thoughts lately. I need to
Speaker 1: return back to reality. I need to stop at stop
Speaker 1: signs and use a coupon at the grocery store and
Speaker 1: uh put put a new roll of paper towel on
Speaker 1: the on the paper towel holder, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: wash my hands when I go to the bathroom and
Speaker 1: get mad at a cashier. That was rude to me,
Speaker 1: Like it's just like grounding human things. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? You know what I'm talking about? Logan?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he definitely stop. Yeah, got hit by a
Speaker 2: car to day.
Speaker 1: You almost got hit by a car today? What was
Speaker 1: that like? Uh?
Speaker 2: It was it was pretty sensational. I thought I was
Speaker 2: about to die live flash before my eyes.
Speaker 1: What did you see when your life flashed before you?
Speaker 1: Your eyes.
Speaker 2: Probably probably say, uh, it's all the ocean. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that's all the ocean. It was something big and blue.
Speaker 1: So you saw the ocean. Mm hmm, pretty good. Pretty good. Well, logan,
Speaker 1: it's okay. If not, man, we can just shoot the
Speaker 1: ship and talk. But did you have something in particular
Speaker 1: that you wanted to talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to call and tell you about my
Speaker 2: my girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Churse girlfriend, curse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or it's more of a curse for them but
Speaker 2: not for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, what is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So basically I've dated like these five girls, and like
Speaker 2: they've cheated on me, but like almost every time something bad,
Speaker 2: like really like karma bites them in the butt.
Speaker 4: Basically.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on one second. You dated five different women
Speaker 1: and they all cheated on you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not all at once, not all at once, but yeah,
Speaker 2: they all cheated on me.
Speaker 1: There's gotta be hold on. How old are you? I'm eighteen,
Speaker 1: you're eighteen?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, you've dated and how long over the over the
Speaker 1: course of how long did you date these five different women?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Most of the time all their all those relationships last
Speaker 2: maybe five months and then they cheated. It's that's a
Speaker 2: wom them.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is a bizarre situation. You're eighteen. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean these aren't even real. I guess these are. This
Speaker 1: is like high school stuff. None of this this is
Speaker 1: all a precursory to anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is high school.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, I mean what I I almost sure? I mean,
Speaker 1: what's the curse?
Speaker 2: So they okay, the churses all the time, Like when
Speaker 2: the girls would like date me, when I found out
Speaker 2: like they cheated on me or something like that, like
Speaker 2: something like bad Hamilton, like something either embarrassing or it
Speaker 2: was just something that they really like cared about, kind
Speaker 2: of like either like broke or like something bad happened.
Speaker 2: It was just it is crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I oh my god, you'reus You're I mean,
Speaker 1: these aren't even this is this isn't even anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: where I want to talk I don't know why. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I feel like you're my son or something. Do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about? Like where are you gonna go
Speaker 1: to college? What are you gonna do with your life? Man?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to college to go become a traveling nurse.
Speaker 2: I want to spoil the world.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so wonderful. A traveling nurse.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What does the traveling nurse do.
Speaker 2: Uh, they basically so they basically just they signed contracts
Speaker 2: with different hospitals and like I'm pretty sure they like
Speaker 2: either teach other nurses stuff or like they do special things.
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure exactly, but they just they make
Speaker 2: a lot of money and they get to travel, and
Speaker 2: that's what I look for in life.
Speaker 1: Cool man. Where Whereas on your list of places to travel.
Speaker 2: I want to go to Japan, Egypt, the Bahamas. Cool,
Speaker 2: There'll probably be some other places.
Speaker 1: Those are all great places. I've never been to Egypt
Speaker 1: or the Bahamas. But uh, actually I've heard varying things
Speaker 1: about Egypt. U. But you know whatever, you got to
Speaker 1: go to these places to figure it out. Don't be
Speaker 1: too sore about the first of all, you have a
Speaker 1: great life plan. I'm excited for you. Don't be too
Speaker 1: sore about. Uh, these girls cheating on you, that's not
Speaker 1: even I don't did they even cheat on you? I
Speaker 1: don't know. This is it's like just so not real,
Speaker 1: Like what did they just snap? I don't. I can't
Speaker 1: even begin to dissect this situation or even desire to
Speaker 1: call it a situation. Not to downplay your but also
Speaker 1: a little bit to downplay your situation because I think
Speaker 1: it's worth being downplayed. You have a much brighter future
Speaker 1: ahead of you, so I don't. I'm not worried about
Speaker 1: you at all. I'm I'm so excited for you to
Speaker 1: traveling nurse. That'll be good, man, that'll be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm not. I'm not said at all.
Speaker 2: I'm living my best life right now, June, getting my
Speaker 2: life on truck.
Speaker 1: Cool Man, what are you? What are you benching these days?
Speaker 2: I'm benching about like one Tini is not not really
Speaker 2: doing the best, but my leg's on the other hand,
Speaker 2: I'm doing it on the legs. I'm squatting like two.
Speaker 2: I think it's like two forty two sit cool something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Cool Man. Cool. Well, Uh, well, all right, man, look
Speaker 1: you I'm gonna I'm gonna let the lines clear for
Speaker 1: you know, there's people out there who you know are
Speaker 1: in deep pain and suffering. We want to talk to them. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, but uh, you're gonna be okay. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, don't let don't let your girlfriend or
Speaker 2: your boyfriends day chewing you something like that. Don't let
Speaker 2: him bring you down. You got a whole whole life
Speaker 2: ahead you experience.
Speaker 1: This beautiful love y'all. All right, take care man, thank you. Hey.
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 3: Hey, let's say my name is Corn.
Speaker 1: Corn? What's up? Corn? How are you doing? What's going
Speaker 1: on doing?
Speaker 3: Okay? Okay? Today? It's a beautiful day outside.
Speaker 1: It is. It's a nice day outside. Uh, it's a
Speaker 1: nice day outside. What did you go out? Did you
Speaker 1: do anything?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Today? Not really? I mean everyone else is going out.
Speaker 3: The windows are open now and the sun is shining,
Speaker 3: so it's a good day, I think, Corn.
Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular that you wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about today?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: My mother is a wanna be Disney influencer.
Speaker 6: Ooh, continue, Yes, so she kind of like prior resizes
Speaker 6: her own happiness and like Disney above like anything else,
Speaker 6: including her her children.
Speaker 3: One of which is still a child, is still a minor.
Speaker 4: But she.
Speaker 3: The first time she kind of ran away to Disney,
Speaker 3: she wouldn't answer our phone calls or text and like
Speaker 3: locked not me, my dad and my sister, So she
Speaker 3: would stop getting calls from us.
Speaker 1: She's just at Disney alone.
Speaker 3: Uh, she wants. She wants to be like a blogger,
Speaker 3: a blogger, a Disney blogger, to like make like content
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yeah, she wants to like
Speaker 3: live stream I guess and be famous.
Speaker 1: Okay, why how how old are you? How old are you?
Speaker 1: And as like the you and how old is your
Speaker 1: brother or sister?
Speaker 3: I am twenty two. My middle sister she takes with
Speaker 3: her is nineteen, and then my our youngest sister is seventeen.
Speaker 1: So you had so, oh it's what you said. Your
Speaker 1: mom takes your sister with you with her?
Speaker 3: She takes the middle sister with her.
Speaker 1: Oh but just her? Are you? Are you? Why don't you?
Speaker 1: Do you not want to go with her?
Speaker 3: No? She never asks or invites that. She never really
Speaker 3: tells me anything or anyone anything anymore. She kind of
Speaker 3: just does whatever she wants without any like consequence because
Speaker 3: yeah she can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your mom's off, your mom's gone off the deep end.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she also see here she had we had
Speaker 3: a gambling issue.
Speaker 1: Oh man.
Speaker 3: She uh decided to adopt or not adopt buy a
Speaker 3: bunch of dogs after her mom died, and uh so,
Speaker 3: right now, her like entire life is Disney and these
Speaker 3: dogs which kind of sucks because like you know, like
Speaker 3: I don't live at home anymore, but she really doesn't
Speaker 3: really reach out or anything like that. It's all about
Speaker 3: the dogs.
Speaker 1: And Yeah, that fucking sucks, man, because it's it's weird.
Speaker 1: It's hard with you when when when you have a
Speaker 1: thing like this with your parents, like have you have
Speaker 1: you had a have you like sat her down for
Speaker 1: a conversation and been like, uh, listen, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: have you in my life. Uh, and you just keep
Speaker 1: running away to Disney World.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically we have I remember, you know, like calling
Speaker 3: her and like basically like crying, dang, like why why
Speaker 3: are you doing this? Like we my my sister, who's
Speaker 3: who's still Who's seventeen? She was like sixteen at the
Speaker 3: first time she did. She was like fifteen or fourteen,
Speaker 3: and she was just and she was were just like
Speaker 3: upset because she's not answering the calls and ignoring all
Speaker 3: of us. And I remember I was crying. I'm like, mom,
Speaker 3: why aren't you answering? Why do you care more about
Speaker 3: Disney and then us? You just left all your responsibilities
Speaker 3: at home? What about your your dogs? Just abandoned them
Speaker 3: and forced our father to take care of them when
Speaker 3: she's when he has a full time job, he has
Speaker 3: still on top of everything.
Speaker 1: M why are you guys? Are you guys in Florida?
Speaker 1: Or is she like taking no plane trips?
Speaker 3: No, she's driving.
Speaker 1: Where what state are you in?
Speaker 3: We're in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: She fucking is driving. How often is she driving down
Speaker 1: to Florida to become a Disney blog person?
Speaker 3: Okay, well right now she has a stupid thing called
Speaker 3: a job. That so she can't like take as much
Speaker 3: time off as she wants to spend in Disney. But
Speaker 3: she needs a job to pay for Disney, so she
Speaker 3: has to work unfortunately, so fad Okay, but she goes.
Speaker 3: She used to. The longest she was there was maybe
Speaker 3: six weeks once and then she went. She goes maybe
Speaker 3: about three times a year at least.
Speaker 1: So what I mean, what's up with? What's up with you?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Are you like in school or something?
Speaker 3: Oh? No, I've worked. I've worked like ever since I
Speaker 3: was like legally able to. Actually I was. I was
Speaker 3: kind of thinking about that recently. I look, it's kind
Speaker 3: of liked that. Like my sister who's seventeen right now,
Speaker 3: she has two jobs right now, and then my other
Speaker 3: sister who's nineteen, she's a job too, And I'm just like,
Speaker 3: I think about the fact that like as soon as
Speaker 3: all of us were legally able to work, even though
Speaker 3: we're not, we're not like struggling. We were never like
Speaker 3: my dad had a good job, but just my mom
Speaker 3: was so irresponsible with money. It just like never, you
Speaker 3: never felt like we had any money. So now I'm
Speaker 3: trying to picture my sister who's seventeen, doesn't fall on
Speaker 3: the same trap I did, where I gave up most
Speaker 3: of my my last high school years to working and
Speaker 3: didn't do anything fun socially.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you I mean, what do you do
Speaker 1: you have? Do you have dreams for the future moving forward?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like I want to do things, like
Speaker 3: I have goals and aspirations. But like, bottom line is
Speaker 3: I really missed my family. I miss having They don't
Speaker 3: they don't even live that My family home is twenty
Speaker 3: minutes fifteen minutes away. But I can't do that. I
Speaker 3: can't even go see them.
Speaker 1: And you can't and you can't you can't get You
Speaker 1: can't rally your mom or your dad or your siblings too. Oh,
Speaker 1: we cried, get to go to therapy or something like that.
Speaker 3: Can you she claims that this is good for her
Speaker 3: anxiety or something like this is we all stress her
Speaker 3: out and we and this is for her mental health.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I always tell her, what about my
Speaker 3: mental health? And your other daughter's mental health and our
Speaker 3: father's mental health? Who you know, we're all miserable because like,
Speaker 3: first of all, I have when she's not my dad,
Speaker 3: he works in the city and you know someone he has.
Speaker 3: He gets to work from home most of the time.
Speaker 3: But it's a hybrid schedule. So there were times when
Speaker 3: like I had to literally take off of my job
Speaker 3: that I need to support myself so she can go
Speaker 3: take to take my sister to school because my dad
Speaker 3: had to go into the office. And like the like
Speaker 3: I don't want to know how much money, but I
Speaker 3: bet it's tens of thousands of dollars in the past
Speaker 3: couple of years.
Speaker 5: M M.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, you know, let's stay. Here's the thing, and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just gonna give it to you straight. Is
Speaker 1: that this this is this is this what's your name again?
Speaker 3: Let's go with the corn corn?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, corn corn. Look, I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: I I'm I fucking I don't know. I'm not a
Speaker 1: family therapist. I'm fucking h a dumb little boy, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I can only tell you things that are
Speaker 1: how uh I would operate if I was in your situation.
Speaker 1: There's a weird uh natural I guess unraveling of of
Speaker 1: of things as you get older. I suppose of like
Speaker 1: friend groups and and family, you know, and and sometimes
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know at this point, if you've
Speaker 1: rallied everyone together, if you can still if you can
Speaker 1: keep a good it sounds like your mom is going
Speaker 1: off the fucking deep end, but like if you can
Speaker 1: keep a good relationship going with your sisters, like I
Speaker 1: would just focus on that. I would just focus on
Speaker 1: like rallying the troops that want to stay on board,
Speaker 1: because if your mom is going to Disney World and
Speaker 1: she doesn't give a fuck, like A, first of all,
Speaker 1: I'm really really sorry to hear that, because that's just sucks.
Speaker 1: But like, you know, who's left, Like who can you
Speaker 1: rally that's left? How can you stay in touch with
Speaker 1: your siblings? How can you you know, let your siblings
Speaker 1: know that you're still there for them? How can you
Speaker 1: you know, you know, keep doing fucking dinners, keep going
Speaker 1: to their house, like just if you want your family back, like,
Speaker 1: you know, stay, try to have a positive relationship because
Speaker 1: I'm sure sure that you're maybe not the one, the
Speaker 1: one that is being dragged along to Disney. I actually
Speaker 1: can't tell if she likes your mom more or hates
Speaker 1: her more than the people who are quiant.
Speaker 3: But like, the thing is is like she has like
Speaker 3: she she has like some mental developmental disabilities, okay, and
Speaker 3: she's like and she like is clung to my mom
Speaker 3: her dear life.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I told her like I told her, like listen mom,
Speaker 3: Like I don't mean like because she's always that issue.
Speaker 3: She was physically violent to me with as children, okay,
Speaker 3: and I always was like, mom, you have to do
Speaker 3: something before it's too late. When she turns eighteen, you
Speaker 3: cannot force her anymore. You have to do this. She's like,
Speaker 3: oh no, And then next thing, you know, she after
Speaker 3: she turns eighteen, she's calm and complaining your sister's a monster.
Speaker 3: She's doing all this stuff. I'm like, you made her
Speaker 3: a monster, you made her that way, and she won't
Speaker 3: she doesn't want to she'sn't great denial about it. She's
Speaker 3: in denial about briefing. There's never a problem. It's always
Speaker 3: us being a problem. We stress her out because of
Speaker 3: me trying to her. That stresses her out because she
Speaker 3: needs to stay longer in Florida.
Speaker 1: What about what about your what about your your younger sister?
Speaker 3: Like her track, He's he's good. I mean right now,
Speaker 3: she's doing really good in school. I'm really proud of
Speaker 3: her actually, But like the issue is that my mom
Speaker 3: also is she's also a horder. So all that's there's
Speaker 3: no I can't really go to the house really and
Speaker 3: hang out with them.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, is I I I. Here's what I'll say,
Speaker 1: and you should. You should really go talk to a
Speaker 1: real therapist about this because I'm not I yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I look is here. Here are just two things I
Speaker 1: will say from just my perspective on this situation is
Speaker 1: a try your fucking best to Uh. It sounds like
Speaker 1: the younger sister, I mean, I don't know what's up
Speaker 1: with your dad. I don't know if your dad is
Speaker 1: just kind of.
Speaker 3: In my dad's okay, Yeah, he's miserable. There's no love
Speaker 3: in their relationship. But she won't leave and he can't
Speaker 3: legally kick her out. And my dad's basically just trying
Speaker 3: to hope at least until my sister graduates high school
Speaker 3: and she can go off to college, and then hope
Speaker 3: do something because right now there's no real option.
Speaker 1: Okay, so here's what I'll say, is, like the the
Speaker 1: family members that have not jumped ship into whatever, Like,
Speaker 1: whoever's left that you can have a relationship with, try
Speaker 1: your best to have a relationship with them. Like it
Speaker 1: sounds like you're the sister that's still in high school.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you can continue to have a good
Speaker 1: relationship with her, It sounds like you can continue to
Speaker 1: have a good relationship with your dad. Try your best
Speaker 1: to do those things, and then for the remainder of time,
Speaker 1: like if you need to, like chill on hanging on
Speaker 1: the scene, if you because this situation you sound like
Speaker 1: it's driving you fucking me add and you have a life, dude,
Speaker 1: You're only you're twenty two. You can fucking go. You're
Speaker 1: twenty two. You're a hard working person. Okay, corn, you're
Speaker 1: a hard working person, but work in your entire fucking life.
Speaker 1: You're a young person. You you have, so you hold on.
Speaker 1: You have so much potential to fucking go out on you.
Speaker 1: You you live with, you live alone, you live You
Speaker 1: left the.
Speaker 3: House right, Yeah, I left the house.
Speaker 1: Okay. Do you live by yourself? You live with roommates?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you live by yourself? Do you live with roommates
Speaker 1: with ms? Sorry, you live with roommate? You fucking you.
Speaker 1: Look you you had enough initiative coming from this crazy
Speaker 1: situation to work your way so that you're out of
Speaker 1: the house independent on your own. I assume, pen your
Speaker 1: own bills and shit you and for the rest of
Speaker 1: your fucking life, you just have the work ethic you have,
Speaker 1: the like you you just for whatever fucking craziness you
Speaker 1: came from, right, like, just a hold hold tight on
Speaker 1: the fact that the rest you have the potential to
Speaker 1: just make a fucking great life for yourself beyond this.
Speaker 1: So just do me, So, just do me, do me
Speaker 1: a favorite. And I know that you're trying really hard
Speaker 1: to keep your family together, and you should keep your
Speaker 1: relationship going with the people who you really desire to
Speaker 1: keep a relationship going. And I also know and I'm
Speaker 1: talking out of my ass, and I have no idea
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. But you just I know it's painful.
Speaker 1: I know it's so fucking painful to like be a
Speaker 1: part of this, and I know it's gonna take a
Speaker 1: while to get over that pain and to to fucking
Speaker 1: feel that pain. But just on the other side of
Speaker 1: that pain is a great life. One day, You'll you'll
Speaker 1: fucking meet some someone right, and you'll eventually have kids,
Speaker 1: and you'll you'll be able to have the agency to
Speaker 1: make a household it's not as fucking crazy as the
Speaker 1: one that you grew up in, and you'll be able
Speaker 1: to have you have have friends like you just just don't.
Speaker 1: I just the worst thing from my perspective that could
Speaker 1: happen in this situation is that you spend so much
Speaker 1: time trying to fix this thing with your mom that
Speaker 1: is unfortunately a lot of it is out of your control,
Speaker 1: because if your mom is crazy, your mom is crazy
Speaker 1: and that's her own battle. And you've done it sounds
Speaker 1: to me like everything that you've fucking done everything you
Speaker 1: can to get the family back together. But I would
Speaker 1: just hate if you after spending so much time doing that,
Speaker 1: we're doing it. We're now in active neglect of your
Speaker 1: own life's potential. So again, if I were you, just
Speaker 1: salvage the relationships that you if salvage and invest in
Speaker 1: the relationships that you can with your sister, with your dad,
Speaker 1: with your mom if she comes around, with your other sister,
Speaker 1: if she comes around. But don't but focus, take your
Speaker 1: focus away from my mom is crazy and this is
Speaker 1: the it's your focal point in my life, and just
Speaker 1: and just move it good and just like bring it
Speaker 1: forward to like what what's going on?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 3: Always yeah, my dad always tells me that you need
Speaker 3: like as much as you care about me and your sisters,
Speaker 3: you have to live your own life. You can't let
Speaker 3: us hold you back from living. And I know it's
Speaker 3: the truth, and it's I hate to have to come
Speaker 3: to terms with it, but it's the truth. And I
Speaker 3: can't keep I can't grow if I'm from stuck worrying
Speaker 3: about them. That's an issue I have.
Speaker 5: I worry about a lot of people.
Speaker 1: And here's and here's yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 3: I have a good support system. I think it's just
Speaker 3: like you know, it's just like as an adult, I've
Speaker 3: come to realize these patterns that my mom in behavior,
Speaker 3: they're not new they've always been like this. They're just
Speaker 3: like I notice it more because I'm more self aware.
Speaker 3: You know, my mom had me be a I was
Speaker 3: a child model, and like, I never saw penny of that,
Speaker 3: and like, and I didn't realize that at the time,
Speaker 3: but one time my mom tried told me that five
Speaker 3: hundred dollars is more than eight hundred dollars. You can
Speaker 3: spend three hundred on jewelry.
Speaker 1: Listen again, I I would corn, Listen Corn again. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that you should probably go talk to a real
Speaker 1: therapist about all this stuff too. But again, what I
Speaker 1: really have to say is like, hold down site on
Speaker 1: your own fucking life, Okay, try to have something within
Speaker 1: the craziness. Hold on tight to the market you're gonna
Speaker 1: have You're gonna have a great life. You're gonna raise
Speaker 1: you if if it's what you want. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's what you want, but if if, if one
Speaker 1: day it's what you want to have your own family
Speaker 1: and whatnot, you know you can do that. You can
Speaker 1: live a great life. And if you do decide that
Speaker 1: you want to have a family in the future, you
Speaker 1: can take their asses to UH Universal Studios because it's
Speaker 1: it's much better anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Corn, Yeah, I mean, you're right.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think here, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: is is there any like anyone any I don't want
Speaker 3: to have a question or anything like that in the
Speaker 3: chat or I can answer. I just you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's just really I I know I have to love
Speaker 3: I love myself more and put the bug good.
Speaker 1: That's what you should do.
Speaker 3: But I just have to accept that part. That's the
Speaker 3: hard part I can't accept is that, you know, I
Speaker 3: need to stop loving others more than myself.
Speaker 1: Good luck, good luck Corn, just again, I'll say it
Speaker 1: for the five hundred, for the you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how long I've been a ranting, but just try
Speaker 1: try try, try beyond the craziness to find a u
Speaker 1: a good path forward for your own life, Okay, and
Speaker 1: just try to focus on that shit.
Speaker 3: I will, I will. I really appreciate all.
Speaker 1: Right, take care of Corn, Bye.
Speaker 3: Bye, thank you, bye bye.
Speaker 1: I truly do believe that the rides at Universal Studios
Speaker 1: are a lot better. What does Universal Studios have? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, Universe Studios have the Mario Ride, which
Speaker 1: is good. Actually I didn't like the Mario Ride that much.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem with the Mario Ride is that it
Speaker 1: was a shooting ride, and it was a three D ride,
Speaker 1: but it also had like physical sets, you know, so
Speaker 1: like there was too much going on, and I like,
Speaker 1: occasionally I would like take my three D glasses off
Speaker 1: and have to look around at the physical sets. You
Speaker 1: know what, Maybe I'll have a family and abandon them
Speaker 1: and become a Universal Studios blogger. That actually that sounds
Speaker 1: kind of fun. Hello. Hello, Hey, what's your name?
Speaker 5: Anthony?
Speaker 1: Anthony? Up? Anthony? How you doing. I'm all right, man,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hanging in there. I'm trying, no, but I'm
Speaker 1: figuring it out.
Speaker 7: You know, what's wrong?
Speaker 5: What's wrong? Derek?
Speaker 1: Oh God, I don't want to look. Man. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm just not interested in forwarding out diarrhea
Speaker 1: of my life any and in this very moment, in
Speaker 1: this very moment, I would prefer actually for you to
Speaker 1: diarrhea the what's going on in your life? So please
Speaker 1: diarrhea into my ears.
Speaker 5: I mean, I honestly didn't expect to get on here.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I had a topic to talk about, not
Speaker 5: really necessarily about my life. I don't know. If you
Speaker 5: want to hear about it? Yeah, go ahead, I mean yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm kinda ive been interested in bitcoin for a while.
Speaker 5: That interests you?
Speaker 1: Sure, man, we can talk about.
Speaker 5: What's your what's your opinion on it? I'm sorry? Do
Speaker 5: you care opinion at all?
Speaker 1: Do I care at all about bitcoin?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do I care at all about big?
Speaker 5: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: What do you think about it?
Speaker 1: Do I care it all about bitcoin? Uh? It's a
Speaker 1: thing I don't know. Does it do it? Does it
Speaker 1: do anything? Can you use it?
Speaker 5: Like? Can you like are you saying can you spend
Speaker 5: it at a store?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: On Amazon or something?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh no, I can't spend on Amazon quite yet.
Speaker 1: Okay do you I Do you care about bitcoin?
Speaker 5: I do I do?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Tell me tell me why you care about it me?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'll tell you my story.
Speaker 1: Tell me your story, Tell me your story.
Speaker 5: Okay. Well, you know, so since I was eighteen, like
Speaker 5: in in high school, I was always interested in, like
Speaker 5: I got interested in like the stock market and stuff,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? So like that interested me.
Speaker 5: I started learning about investing and then kind of go
Speaker 5: into like this is pre COVID, So like pre COVID
Speaker 5: investing was different, i'd say, right, Like, you learn about
Speaker 5: investing and you're like, oh, dividend stocks, Oh, you could
Speaker 5: make three cents per share if you buy I don't know,
Speaker 5: coke or pepsi or something. This is sounding boring. Sorry,
Speaker 5: this isn't this isn't very entertaining.
Speaker 1: I guess. I'm here to I am here to listen
Speaker 1: to you talk. So dear guys, just go ahead, all right.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, So, you know, start investing in the like
Speaker 5: dividend stocks, and I'm like, okay, this is going you know,
Speaker 5: I start to build up a little bit of a position,
Speaker 5: get a couple like a thousand or two thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: I'm eighteen at the time, so like I'm you know,
Speaker 5: I'm young. You know, a couple thousands pretty good for me,
Speaker 5: I guess. And then COVID hit and like I start
Speaker 5: learning about real estate too. I start learning about all
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff, like how the market works and
Speaker 5: how all of this happens and all of this stuff.
Speaker 5: But then COVID kind of changed everything for me and
Speaker 5: my like life perspective, I'd say, I as it did
Speaker 5: for everybody, because like when you're working hard for your
Speaker 5: money and then the government can just print twelve, like
Speaker 5: twelve hundred dollars to everybody, that really changed my mindset
Speaker 5: and like, I don't know, I'm on more of like
Speaker 5: a investing side of the internet. So like you see
Speaker 5: the FED chairman go out and say, oh, yeah, we
Speaker 5: have unlimited cash to hand out to people that need money.
Speaker 5: Well it's like, well, I work for my money. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: We don't have money printers, we can't just print money.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I started looking into money like this this
Speaker 5: whole and then I started doing research and then you
Speaker 5: find out like, okay, well they say the stimulus check
Speaker 5: isn't going to cause inflation, but you know for a
Speaker 5: fact it is. And then Drone Pale and all of
Speaker 5: these people say, oh, no, inflation, that's not gonna happen,
Speaker 5: and then inflation happens, and then they're like, okay, well
Speaker 5: inflation is transitory, and then well you're like, well you're
Speaker 5: lying because this is a lot of money and slation
Speaker 5: is in transitory. It's going to keep happening for years.
Speaker 1: It's okay, you know what, you know what, you know
Speaker 1: what you are You're right, this is getting a little boring.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of figured that's okay.
Speaker 1: But but what do you want to do with all
Speaker 1: your money? Man? What do you want to do with it?
Speaker 1: What's the point? What's the goal?
Speaker 5: What do I want to So basically a lot of people.
Speaker 5: So my perspective is that bitcoin is the new revolution,
Speaker 5: the new money of the world. I think it is
Speaker 5: the best invention to ever you know, one of the
Speaker 5: best inventions ever created. I think the story of bitcoin
Speaker 5: is very interesting. I think, yeah, and I think a
Speaker 5: lot when I talk to people about it, it's either
Speaker 5: something like this, you know, it's boring, my story's boring
Speaker 5: about it, whatever, or it's a scam or you know,
Speaker 5: and it's like, how do I go about talking to
Speaker 5: people about bitcoin? You know? In in a better fact?
Speaker 1: Listen, listen man, how old are you?
Speaker 5: Twenty four?
Speaker 1: Twenty four? And you wanna what do you want to
Speaker 1: do with all your Because here's here's let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. One day, one day, you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: million dollars, right do you think?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Yeah, one day you're gonna have a million dollars. What
Speaker 1: are you gonna do with it? You know what are
Speaker 1: you gonna, is it gonna? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: What do you want to Lambeau? You wanna fucking do nothing?
Speaker 1: What do you wanna? What do you wanna do?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: I just want to take care of my future family
Speaker 5: and stuff. Nothing crazy.
Speaker 1: Probably that's pretty good. That's pretty good. All right?
Speaker 7: Well, very boring.
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not really interesting.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's not the hold on, hold on, hold
Speaker 8: on man? Why why don't we don't need to We're
Speaker 8: just talking. We don't need to be talking, and also
Speaker 8: having hitting ourselves with with judgment calls as to whether
Speaker 8: or not we're interesting.
Speaker 1: Or boring or you know, we don't have time. That
Speaker 1: was being funny. I mean, also it is kind of boring.
Speaker 1: But but we we but we can withhold our judgment
Speaker 1: calls on ourselves. Okay, And I'm not saying hold on. Sure,
Speaker 1: the conversation that we were having was boring, but we don't.
Speaker 1: But you, I'm not going I would never say that
Speaker 1: you are a boring person. You are not an interesting
Speaker 1: person as you as a human being, your essence. I
Speaker 1: would never say that, and I wouldn't want you to
Speaker 1: say that about yourself. You know, we're just talking. I mean,
Speaker 1: we could talk about a billion different things. I'm not
Speaker 1: but I don't want you to walk away from this
Speaker 1: conversation thinking that you yourself are not are are inherently
Speaker 1: not interesting, even if I look, I like talking about
Speaker 1: stocks and uh things. You know, maybe it's maybe, but
Speaker 1: but in this very moment, perhaps I am not that interesting.
Speaker 1: Perhaps you are not that interesting in this very moment.
Speaker 1: But we've lived long lives. We're gonna keep living long lives,
Speaker 1: will be will be more things at more moments. We
Speaker 1: don't have to fucking say that we're one thing forever
Speaker 1: and in the future and forever in the past, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So yeah, that's that's that's that's
Speaker 1: my takeaway from this conversation about bitcoin is don't beat you.
Speaker 1: Don't beat yourself up about it.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: You're You're plenty interesting. You're a human being alive on
Speaker 1: the ear. You're the fact that you are our conscious
Speaker 1: being is is an insane thing. So just keep being
Speaker 1: that and you're inherently interesting and whatever you do on
Speaker 1: top of that is interesting.
Speaker 5: You know what, I think You're just I really, to
Speaker 5: be honest, I think you're just saying a bunch of
Speaker 5: words to get me off the call. I think that's
Speaker 5: where this is geting.
Speaker 1: Event well, yeah, eventually, yeah, we'll have to end the call.
Speaker 1: But but I you do you think I don't mean
Speaker 1: the things I'm saying to you right now?
Speaker 5: I mean, not necessarily, no, honestly, No, you.
Speaker 1: Mean you know, as in you believe no isn' you
Speaker 1: think I don't believe them? And no is in you what?
Speaker 5: I don't think you're believe. I don't think you believe
Speaker 5: the words that you say.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I do right now. And if
Speaker 1: you if you don't want to, if you don't want
Speaker 1: to believe them, that's on you. But I believe them.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right man?
Speaker 1: What's what's your name again?
Speaker 5: Anthony?
Speaker 1: Anthony Anthony? I sincerely, No, I'm not. I'm not religious
Speaker 1: really why, I don't know. I grew up a little religious.
Speaker 1: Are you religious?
Speaker 7: Recently?
Speaker 5: I've been getting religious?
Speaker 1: Yeah, into Jesus.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've actually I actually just got baptized on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Well good actually, good man, listen. Here's the thing is
Speaker 1: I I I say again, on here?
Speaker 5: Do you talk about it? On here?
Speaker 1: Do I talk about what?
Speaker 6: On here?
Speaker 5: Religion?
Speaker 1: So sometimes sometimes Okay, I genuine and you know what,
Speaker 1: this is the last thing I'm gonna say because I
Speaker 1: believe these things I'm saying, and I'm gonna say them
Speaker 1: to you. In finality, I genuinely believe You're gonna make
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Jesus is gonna guide you. You think
Speaker 1: I'm fucking lying to you. I'm being one hundred and series.
Speaker 1: You're gonna make a million dollars, You're gonna find a
Speaker 1: beautiful wife, You're gonna have children. You're gonna long forget
Speaker 1: when you're like forty five years old and you have
Speaker 1: a beautiful wife and children and you're taking them to
Speaker 1: church and you have a bunch of money. You it'll
Speaker 1: have been forty it'll have been twenty years since you
Speaker 1: even ever thought about this phone call. And you're gonna
Speaker 1: do that. I don't I don't know what I'm going
Speaker 1: to be doing, but I just know in my gut
Speaker 1: you're going to be living a happy and nice life.
Speaker 1: And you think I'm just saying and you think I'm
Speaker 1: just saying this to you to get you off the phone.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get you off the phone just because
Speaker 1: I am. But you but you think I'm fucking bullshitting you,
Speaker 1: and I I mean what I'm saying one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think I'm look, I started getting into bitcoin
Speaker 5: because of the money.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 5: I think it's bigger than just the money. I think
Speaker 5: it's about the whole system of government. You know, people
Speaker 5: you know on the left, they say it's because of capitalism.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't. I think that the Fiat currency
Speaker 5: system is the problem. So like when you say, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm going to make a million dollars, I don't really
Speaker 5: have that exact perspective, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 5: I don't look at the world through a dollar perspective.
Speaker 5: If that makes.
Speaker 1: Sense, it does make sense that at the world, no,
Speaker 1: you look at I I get it, you, I get it.
Speaker 1: You think in terms of value, now, not in terms
Speaker 1: of dollars because of because I understand. But but you
Speaker 1: hold on, you're getting lost. But you're getting lost in
Speaker 1: the semantics. You will have a million, you will have
Speaker 1: whatever the equivalent of a million dollars is, but it's
Speaker 1: not gonna matter. What's gonna matter is you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a wife and children and Jesus and that's gonna guide
Speaker 1: you through this insane experience of being alive. And that's
Speaker 1: what that's what I have to say to you. And
Speaker 1: I'm I'm extremely happy for you. I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: be I think you're gonna fucking blow it out of
Speaker 1: the water. And you really do think I'm being facetious
Speaker 1: right now, And I just swear on my child's life
Speaker 1: that I'm not. No, I'm swearing on my first child's life.
Speaker 1: I'm not being facetious about any the things I'm saying
Speaker 1: to you. I I think you're gonna have a good
Speaker 1: life because you're guided. But you seem sane. I mean
Speaker 1: that in my God, that's how you feel as you
Speaker 1: feel easy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going to end the call, but I really
Speaker 5: last thing I'm gonna say, okay, is it's about you know,
Speaker 5: religion and Jesus. And if you're you care about the
Speaker 5: truth in life, you know you want truth, I would
Speaker 5: say really historical from historical evidence. You know, ask yourself these.
Speaker 1: Questions, there's no fucking truth, Anthony, that there's no fucking truth.
Speaker 1: There's your truth, there's my truth, there's eight billion truths.
Speaker 5: That's not the perspective I have, but I'm believing.
Speaker 9: No exactly, that's what hold on what you Anthony, What
Speaker 9: you just said proves my point.
Speaker 1: That is not the perspective that you have. We have
Speaker 1: two different perspectives. We have two different truths.
Speaker 5: It's not necessarily because Okay, say you don't believe in
Speaker 5: God and I do, and Jesus is real and God
Speaker 5: is real, and you think that when you die you
Speaker 5: just go into the ground and you become a fertilizer.
Speaker 5: But that's not true. There is one truth, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean? Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Look right, the sky is blue. But if I say
Speaker 1: it's green, that's my vote in reality. And reality is reality.
Speaker 1: What is truth?
Speaker 5: Truth is what the truth is. It's it's the fact God.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have such an awesome life. I really believe
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have such an I really believe.
Speaker 7: That's not true.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have an awesome life for multiple I just
Speaker 1: you're gonna have it. Also, life for multiple reasons is
Speaker 1: one You're gonna find some other super Christian lady and
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna start a Christian household. Your life
Speaker 1: is gonna have direction, to it, guided by Jesus and God.
Speaker 1: You're gonna raise Christian children, You're gonna get involved in
Speaker 1: the church community. You're gonna make smart financial decisions and
Speaker 1: be able to send your kids to You're gonna have
Speaker 1: a great life, Anthony.
Speaker 5: Did I appreciate that way?
Speaker 1: I believe. I don't know what's gonna I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen. Then maybe I know
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a great life. And I fully and
Speaker 1: we I you have your own truth. That's what's exciting
Speaker 1: to me about your life is that you have your
Speaker 1: own truth. I have my I'm sort of searching for
Speaker 1: a little for some version of truth right now. But
Speaker 1: you have your own truth. That's great. I'm excited for you.
Speaker 1: And I swear on on the future of of not
Speaker 1: only America, but also of the the the you a e.
Speaker 1: I swear on the future of the of of Saint Lucia.
Speaker 1: I swear on the future of the state of Montana.
Speaker 1: And I swear on my cousin's life that you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a great life because I believe in it so heavily.
Speaker 1: And you think I'm being facetious, but I'm not. I
Speaker 1: was not you know what, Yeah, go ahead, you have
Speaker 1: all right, go ahead, you have something else.
Speaker 5: Well, I was just gonna go back to the three questions.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm gonna end it before you get
Speaker 1: into the three questions. But I because we're gonna go
Speaker 1: in circles. But Anthony, I love you so much, Anthony.
Speaker 1: I love you so much. You're gonna have a great life,
Speaker 1: and I will see you hopefully, hopefully. Anthony.
Speaker 9: If there is one truth, if there is, Anthony, Anthony,
Speaker 9: shut the fuck up, Anthony. If there's one truth, Anthony,
Speaker 9: shut up for a second. I hope there is one truth,
Speaker 9: and that I see you in heaven and I will
Speaker 9: talk to you around. I will, Actually I'll probably never
Speaker 9: talk to you again. But I think you will have
Speaker 9: an awesome life, and I love you very much, and
Speaker 9: I'll see you around, hopefully we will.
Speaker 1: I'll see you in heaven. Okay, I'm gonna hang up
Speaker 1: on you. Bye. That was Anthony. I know we're gonna
Speaker 1: get I've a whole lot a few things to clear up.
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna get a ton of negative comments
Speaker 1: about Anthony, and I will defend him against all of
Speaker 1: those negative comments because I believed it deeply in what
Speaker 1: I said to him just now. I believe he's gonna
Speaker 1: have a good life, He's gonna raise nice children. He'll
Speaker 1: never understand. I don't think can I say, can I
Speaker 1: share something? Maybe it's a little bit depressing. But I
Speaker 1: saw a comment on the internet, which is where I
Speaker 1: go to receive all of my best information. I saw
Speaker 1: a comment on Reddit. If ignorance is bliss, is clarity misery?
Speaker 1: I think I don't want to say that Anthony is ignorant.
Speaker 1: I actually take that back, but I don't. I think
Speaker 1: in Anthony's belief he finds meaning and happiness.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I I think he's going to have a good
Speaker 1: life because of that. And I think that because he's
Speaker 1: gonna he I think he'll be fine. I just think
Speaker 1: he'll be okay. I mean everything I said, I even
Speaker 1: I and I swear that I mean everything I said
Speaker 1: on the State of Montana and on the UAE and
Speaker 1: on Yeah, he'll be fine. He'll be fine. You'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Go if you're thinking about writing some fucking comment, you can,
Speaker 1: but you'll be fine, and he'll be fine, and everything
Speaker 1: will be fine.
Speaker 5: Joe, Hello, Hey man, how are you hey?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Fuck? I'm okay, man? How are you.
Speaker 7: Good? I'm actually working from home today.
Speaker 1: Very nice? What do you do?
Speaker 4: Uh? I trained as a as a physical oceanographer.
Speaker 1: Hey, well I say that one more time.
Speaker 4: A physical oceanographers physical oceanographer.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: So I don't I don't. I don't do like dolphins
Speaker 4: or whales or any of that stuff. But just you
Speaker 4: know how currents move around the ocean.
Speaker 1: Wow, how currents move around the ocean? Is that exciting stuff?
Speaker 4: It can be if you want to know where trash
Speaker 4: is going, or if you're a I suppose if you're
Speaker 4: a government and you want to sue another government, uh
Speaker 4: for for pouting and water, it could be exciting.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's all.
Speaker 1: Very nice, very nice. Josh, you said, Joe, Joe, you
Speaker 1: call me Josh.
Speaker 5: I'm Joe.
Speaker 1: It's very sweet that I can call you that if
Speaker 1: I want, Joe. Is there anything in particular that you
Speaker 1: want to talk about today?
Speaker 7: Not much. I actually wasn't even expecting to get through.
Speaker 7: It's been uh, I don't know, an easy day.
Speaker 4: I figured be fun just to shoot the ships all
Speaker 4: you're streaming and uh so you just got back from
Speaker 4: Japan and I did welcome back to the States.
Speaker 1: I guess, thanks buddy. Well, uh, let's see, let's see,
Speaker 1: let's see what get what gives you, uh a meaning
Speaker 1: in life? Joe? Why do you wake up in the
Speaker 1: morning and do anything?
Speaker 4: Well, these days I just had it feels like just yesterday.
Speaker 4: But I've got a two year old at home now,
Speaker 4: and that's that's quite bizarre.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 7: You know, I think about a year ago, I had.
Speaker 4: Been reaching out to you as I've been processing a lot.
Speaker 4: You know, you have a kid, and suddenly everything feels
Speaker 4: like it changes in terms of priorities.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: What you do is it's like so more often these
Speaker 4: days it's you get up and you do this. You
Speaker 4: do your job because well you have to, not necessarily because.
Speaker 7: You like it.
Speaker 4: I felt like in my twenties I could just kind
Speaker 4: of fuck around and.
Speaker 7: I didn't make money.
Speaker 4: It was just me. You know, it wasn't really high
Speaker 4: high stakes. You know, now there's a there's a being
Speaker 4: that actually.
Speaker 7: Depends on me. So it's you know, sometimes.
Speaker 4: You put up with more things that than than you
Speaker 4: probably would have when it was just you.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm, yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 5: But y know, this.
Speaker 4: Having so goddamn, let's see, like ten years ago, what
Speaker 4: year is this, twenty twenty, fifteen years ago? Holy shit,
Speaker 4: fifteen years ago when I started studying oceanography, my mom
Speaker 4: had died, and you know, I kind of went into
Speaker 4: this phase of just kind of like putting my head down.
Speaker 7: And doing work, and then it was more trying to travel.
Speaker 4: And you know, kind of figure out what what the
Speaker 4: hell this whole thing is that I'm living. And I
Speaker 4: don't know, I can't believe, well, I can't even believe fifteen.
Speaker 7: Years is gone by to get to this point.
Speaker 4: But I moved around a lot, like basically evorite two years,
Speaker 4: went to another state, tried another job. You know, I
Speaker 4: just really partner got pregnant and have we had to
Speaker 4: figure out O.
Speaker 1: Sorry you cut out after you said that you moved
Speaker 1: states every two years.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, so it's just after after a while of doing that,
Speaker 4: my partner got pregnant and we had to figure out
Speaker 4: how we were going to accommodate, you know, another person.
Speaker 7: We had been living like in.
Speaker 4: A little five hundred square foot apartment with a dog
Speaker 4: and a cat already, and it was like, you can't
Speaker 4: it was I don't know it just didn't seem like
Speaker 4: it was going to be a nice, comfortable space to
Speaker 4: have a family, and so we ended up.
Speaker 7: Moving to a very rural area. This is not like
Speaker 7: a lot to do, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: It just opened up some opportunities since folks were getting
Speaker 4: more comfortable with like remote work, started working for myself
Speaker 4: and just doing consulting and other things on the side,
Speaker 4: and eventually became enough to keep it going. But but now,
Speaker 4: you know, with with kid being here, it's you start
Speaker 4: taking jobs that necessary. You know, years ago I would
Speaker 4: have turned down.
Speaker 7: But now you just kind of do them because.
Speaker 4: Well it's work, not necessarily supposed to enjoy it, but
Speaker 4: you need to keep the you know, keep the beasts fed.
Speaker 1: I guess, right, right, right, right, yeah? I mean, how
Speaker 1: how old are you now?
Speaker 7: I am thirty four?
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about life compared to when
Speaker 1: you were in your twenties? Do you feel better about it?
Speaker 1: Do you feel worse about it? Do feel thinking about it?
Speaker 7: Way better?
Speaker 1: Way better?
Speaker 4: I mean, I was just I don't know, shoving a
Speaker 4: lot of shit down in my twenties, and it is
Speaker 4: just like I think the moving was just like running constantly,
Speaker 4: just not really wanting to process deaths in my family
Speaker 4: and all that.
Speaker 1: M yeah, what what do you feel like you were
Speaker 1: running from?
Speaker 4: I suppose, well, uh, and so, I mean my mom
Speaker 4: had shot herself and I was trying to understand, you know,
Speaker 4: where that capacity to do something like that came from.
Speaker 4: And I'd have nights, you know, I ended up, you know,
Speaker 4: smoking weed a lot, and I sort of have problems
Speaker 4: with alcohol a little bit and kind of kind of
Speaker 4: went through these like sort of roller coaster phases of
Speaker 4: like now I'm gonna be clean and sober, and sometimes
Speaker 4: I was like, ah, fuck it all who cares? And
Speaker 4: I think, but there was a lot a lot of
Speaker 4: times when I was in those like those those darker phases,
Speaker 4: it was just thinking about where.
Speaker 7: Where that capacity comes from. Is that like a genetic thing?
Speaker 7: Is it? Is it you know, is it really brain.
Speaker 4: Chemistry or or there was there just like a certain
Speaker 4: set of circumstances that that drove her to that. And
Speaker 4: you know what, it didn't help that, you know, three
Speaker 4: to four years after that, my uncle did the same
Speaker 4: thing on my dad's side. So it's like, Okay, now
Speaker 4: I got two sides of the family that are often
Speaker 4: themselves for well, you know whatever reason, which and I
Speaker 4: don't think I really ever got a straight answer from
Speaker 4: folks about like what was really going on, because like
Speaker 4: a lot of the family just doesn't want to talk
Speaker 4: about it. But yeah, there's there was a lot of
Speaker 4: processing of death in my twenties that I didn't think
Speaker 4: i'd have to confront that young.
Speaker 7: And uh, you know.
Speaker 4: That I did start going to therapy and really digging
Speaker 4: into that, and that was that was actually kind of
Speaker 4: hard to talk about.
Speaker 7: That first. Now mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So what's uh, what's what's giving you life now? What's
Speaker 1: what's making you feel better now?
Speaker 7: Well? Uh, I like.
Speaker 4: That I've got a house that I I can't it's
Speaker 4: I know, it's a very hard thing to get to
Speaker 4: these days, but it's something you know, I don't I
Speaker 4: don't own it yet. I'm paying a mortgage, but I've
Speaker 4: got something. I've got land enough to where I can
Speaker 4: spend time out in the yard my partner and in
Speaker 4: the kiddo and where you know, starting a garden and
Speaker 4: that's growing. I can kind of I can get up
Speaker 4: and work really flexible schedules.
Speaker 7: I think I'm very.
Speaker 4: Blessed that that situation ended up working out pretty good.
Speaker 4: I like throwing pottery that that's been neat getting into it.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that when I moved to where I
Speaker 4: moved to. But there's a really cool pottery tradition in
Speaker 4: this area. People doing wood firing and digging up their
Speaker 4: own clay, and it's it's pretty neat.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm hmm. What part of what part of the
Speaker 1: town are you in?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 7: Western North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Western North Carolina.
Speaker 4: Pretty yeah, so not not not Ashville, but it's uh,
Speaker 4: you know, something a little bit more affordable.
Speaker 1: I've heard Ashville is like the a crazy like a
Speaker 1: hippie place. Now it is.
Speaker 4: And I know, I went there like ten years ago
Speaker 4: and it was pretty cool, and then I went there
Speaker 4: two years ago and the street smelled like piss.
Speaker 1: They got they got hit pretty hard with some natural disasters,
Speaker 1: didn't they.
Speaker 7: Uh yeah last fall Helene.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, their whole water system got knocked out out there.
Speaker 4: I actually have a cousin out there and she's still
Speaker 4: getting you know, I don't want.
Speaker 7: To say ration to water, but they got to go
Speaker 7: with the drugs to a truck and get fresh water.
Speaker 3: Mmmmm yeah.
Speaker 7: It's pretty rough.
Speaker 1: Have you been no, I don't think I've been, although
Speaker 1: I'd like to do a show there at some point.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's listeners of this podcast that live there. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you've been to Charlotte.
Speaker 4: But yeah, going from Asheville to Charlotte, you know that's
Speaker 4: a two hour drive. Yeah, for for folks coming further last.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's see, Uh, John, let me let me
Speaker 1: let me see if the chat has any questions for you, Mabe,
Speaker 1: let's see, is the chat of any questions for John?
Speaker 1: Someone Well, someone said, a pottery is so fun. Get
Speaker 1: involved if you can, and our interested best choice I
Speaker 1: ever made.
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, it's the ship.
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know, once you get some of
Speaker 4: the frustrating parts out, it's it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 7: Someone said.
Speaker 1: Someone said, are there any UFOs in the sea?
Speaker 7: Are there?
Speaker 4: You know, so they're u s O s Unidentified submerged objects?
Speaker 7: Man, I don't. I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 4: I tend not to look at that kind of stuff.
Speaker 7: I'm it's weird.
Speaker 4: I'm an oceanographer, but I sit behind the computer most
Speaker 4: of the time. It's all, you know, ocean forecasting and
Speaker 4: that kind of ship. My wife used to go out
Speaker 4: to see she she did the real she'd be able
Speaker 4: to tell you, but she's actually doing a job interview
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: So nice. Nice see. Someone wants to know, what do
Speaker 1: what do you think of the evolution of the Kelvin
Speaker 1: waves in the Southeastern US in the past fifty years?
Speaker 4: Evolution of Kelvin waves in the Southeastern US? And I'm well,
Speaker 4: I mean, aren't Calvin waves.
Speaker 7: All fuck?
Speaker 1: They fucking got you, bro, they got you, they got well.
Speaker 7: Kelvin waves are high frequencies.
Speaker 4: I don't know what they mean by evolution of Kelvin
Speaker 4: waves in the Southeast. I don't know what it was there.
Speaker 4: Maybe ask them if there's.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just trolling the Someone wants to know, do
Speaker 1: you do you do you?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you scuba?
Speaker 7: Do I scuba?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 7: I went for my shirt in grad school and then.
Speaker 4: Never used it and I just fell out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because your connection kind of sounds like
Speaker 1: you're calling me from under the sea.
Speaker 7: No man, I'm in I'm in rural North Carolina. The
Speaker 7: cell services kind of this year.
Speaker 1: Uh Okay. Then finally, what someone wants to say, do
Speaker 1: you know doctor Jeffrey Agnew.
Speaker 4: Agnew Agnew like Spiro Agnew, the dudes.
Speaker 7: Who worked with Nixon. No doctor Jeffrey.
Speaker 1: Well let's see John John. I want to keep talking
Speaker 1: to you, but your connection has kind of been a
Speaker 1: little shitty. But uh it's it's great. Oh wait, okay,
Speaker 1: we have one mark. We actually we have a couple
Speaker 1: of questions. I kind of want to ask. See here,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite fish?
Speaker 7: Favorite fish?
Speaker 4: I like flounders because they got two heads on, two
Speaker 4: eyes on one side of their body.
Speaker 7: They're fucking weird.
Speaker 4: That that or if you haven't seen them.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: Some people call them sunfish. Other people call them mullah mullahs.
Speaker 4: They look like a fish that got cut in half
Speaker 4: but is still living.
Speaker 7: It's they're weird. I like weird things.
Speaker 1: Uh. Where is the biggest trash island? And can we
Speaker 1: live on that?
Speaker 7: Can you live on? I mean you, no one, no
Speaker 7: one can stop you. I think some billionaires were trying
Speaker 7: to like do this.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: I think the biggest one is still in the Pacific.
Speaker 7: Most of the stuff I'm looking at they are though.
Speaker 4: And this is just to explain my potential ignorance if
Speaker 4: there's a bigger one than in the Pacific.
Speaker 7: But I'm and the north of Europe around English Journal
Speaker 7: and all that near civilization.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the Pacific is the biggest one
Speaker 4: and then the most disgusting.
Speaker 1: Well let's see, John, I think, yeah, your phone is bad,
Speaker 1: but you're a good guy and that's all that matters.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else? Thanks man? Is there anything else
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer
Speaker 1: before we go?
Speaker 4: Uh no, no, throw some pots?
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: Beautiful? All right, take care? Sorry about no, It's okay, John,
Speaker 1: Take care and good luck with your kid. All right,
Speaker 1: thanks man, take care. Brother goes on the line making it.
Speaker 2: Ohone calls every night, everything goes's teaching your life.