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Speaker 1: Hello, Hey there. What's your name?

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Speaker 2: My name is Logan.

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Speaker 1: Logan. How you doing, Logan? What's up?

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Speaker 2: This is This is Lyle?

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Speaker 1: Right, yep, this is Lyle. This is me. It's weird

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Speaker 1: to it's weird to have a name, it's weird to

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Speaker 1: be alive. It's uh, it's too psychedelic. I've been I've

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Speaker 1: been having too many psychedelic thoughts lately. I need to

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Speaker 1: return back to reality. I need to stop at stop

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Speaker 1: signs and use a coupon at the grocery store and

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Speaker 1: uh put put a new roll of paper towel on

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Speaker 1: the on the paper towel holder, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: wash my hands when I go to the bathroom and

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Speaker 1: get mad at a cashier. That was rude to me,

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Speaker 1: Like it's just like grounding human things. You know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? You know what I'm talking about? Logan?

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he definitely stop. Yeah, got hit by a

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Speaker 2: car to day.

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Speaker 1: You almost got hit by a car today? What was

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Speaker 1: that like? Uh?

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Speaker 2: It was it was pretty sensational. I thought I was

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Speaker 2: about to die live flash before my eyes.

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Speaker 1: What did you see when your life flashed before you?

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Speaker 1: Your eyes.

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Speaker 2: Probably probably say, uh, it's all the ocean. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think that's all the ocean. It was something big and blue.

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Speaker 1: So you saw the ocean. Mm hmm, pretty good. Pretty good. Well, logan,

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Speaker 1: it's okay. If not, man, we can just shoot the

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Speaker 1: ship and talk. But did you have something in particular

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Speaker 1: that you wanted to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to call and tell you about my

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Speaker 2: my girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Churse girlfriend, curse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or it's more of a curse for them but

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Speaker 2: not for me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sure, what is it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So basically I've dated like these five girls, and like

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Speaker 2: they've cheated on me, but like almost every time something bad,

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Speaker 2: like really like karma bites them in the butt.

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Speaker 4: Basically.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on one second. You dated five different women

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Speaker 1: and they all cheated on you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not all at once, not all at once, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: they all cheated on me.

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Speaker 1: There's gotta be hold on. How old are you? I'm eighteen,

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Speaker 1: you're eighteen?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you've dated and how long over the over the

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Speaker 1: course of how long did you date these five different women?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Most of the time all their all those relationships last

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Speaker 2: maybe five months and then they cheated. It's that's a

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Speaker 2: wom them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is a bizarre situation. You're eighteen. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean these aren't even real. I guess these are. This

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Speaker 1: is like high school stuff. None of this this is

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Speaker 1: all a precursory to anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is high school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah okay, I mean what I I almost sure? I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's the curse?

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Speaker 2: So they okay, the churses all the time, Like when

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Speaker 2: the girls would like date me, when I found out

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Speaker 2: like they cheated on me or something like that, like

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Speaker 2: something like bad Hamilton, like something either embarrassing or it

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Speaker 2: was just something that they really like cared about, kind

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Speaker 2: of like either like broke or like something bad happened.

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Speaker 2: It was just it is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I oh my god, you'reus You're I mean,

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Speaker 1: these aren't even this is this isn't even anything. I mean,

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Speaker 1: where I want to talk I don't know why. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're my son or something. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to talk about? Like where are you gonna go

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Speaker 1: to college? What are you gonna do with your life? Man?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to college to go become a traveling nurse.

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Speaker 2: I want to spoil the world.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's so wonderful. A traveling nurse.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: What does the traveling nurse do.

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Speaker 2: Uh, they basically so they basically just they signed contracts

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Speaker 2: with different hospitals and like I'm pretty sure they like

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Speaker 2: either teach other nurses stuff or like they do special things.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really sure exactly, but they just they make

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Speaker 2: a lot of money and they get to travel, and

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Speaker 2: that's what I look for in life.

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Speaker 1: Cool man. Where Whereas on your list of places to travel.

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Speaker 2: I want to go to Japan, Egypt, the Bahamas. Cool,

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Speaker 2: There'll probably be some other places.

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Speaker 1: Those are all great places. I've never been to Egypt

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Speaker 1: or the Bahamas. But uh, actually I've heard varying things

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Speaker 1: about Egypt. U. But you know whatever, you got to

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Speaker 1: go to these places to figure it out. Don't be

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Speaker 1: too sore about the first of all, you have a

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Speaker 1: great life plan. I'm excited for you. Don't be too

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Speaker 1: sore about. Uh, these girls cheating on you, that's not

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Speaker 1: even I don't did they even cheat on you? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. This is it's like just so not real,

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Speaker 1: Like what did they just snap? I don't. I can't

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Speaker 1: even begin to dissect this situation or even desire to

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Speaker 1: call it a situation. Not to downplay your but also

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Speaker 1: a little bit to downplay your situation because I think

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Speaker 1: it's worth being downplayed. You have a much brighter future

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Speaker 1: ahead of you, so I don't. I'm not worried about

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Speaker 1: you at all. I'm I'm so excited for you to

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Speaker 1: traveling nurse. That'll be good, man, that'll be good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm not. I'm not said at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm living my best life right now, June, getting my

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Speaker 2: life on truck.

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Speaker 1: Cool Man, what are you? What are you benching these days?

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Speaker 2: I'm benching about like one Tini is not not really

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Speaker 2: doing the best, but my leg's on the other hand,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing it on the legs. I'm squatting like two.

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Speaker 2: I think it's like two forty two sit cool something

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Speaker 1: Cool Man. Cool. Well, Uh, well, all right, man, look

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Speaker 1: you I'm gonna I'm gonna let the lines clear for

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Speaker 1: you know, there's people out there who you know are

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Speaker 1: in deep pain and suffering. We want to talk to them. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, but uh, you're gonna be okay. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay. Is there anything else you want to

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Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, don't let don't let your girlfriend or

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Speaker 2: your boyfriends day chewing you something like that. Don't let

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Speaker 2: him bring you down. You got a whole whole life

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Speaker 2: ahead you experience.

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Speaker 1: This beautiful love y'all. All right, take care man, thank you. Hey.

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Speaker 1: What's your name?

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Speaker 3: Hey, let's say my name is Corn.

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Speaker 1: Corn? What's up? Corn? How are you doing? What's going

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Speaker 1: on doing?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Okay? Today? It's a beautiful day outside.

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Speaker 1: It is. It's a nice day outside. Uh, it's a

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Speaker 1: nice day outside. What did you go out? Did you

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Speaker 1: do anything?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Today? Not really? I mean everyone else is going out.

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Speaker 3: The windows are open now and the sun is shining,

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Speaker 3: so it's a good day, I think, Corn.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular that you wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: about today?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: My mother is a wanna be Disney influencer.

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Speaker 6: Ooh, continue, Yes, so she kind of like prior resizes

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Speaker 6: her own happiness and like Disney above like anything else,

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Speaker 6: including her her children.

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Speaker 3: One of which is still a child, is still a minor.

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Speaker 4: But she.

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Speaker 3: The first time she kind of ran away to Disney,

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Speaker 3: she wouldn't answer our phone calls or text and like

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Speaker 3: locked not me, my dad and my sister, So she

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Speaker 1: She's just at Disney alone.

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Speaker 3: Uh, she wants. She wants to be like a blogger,

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Speaker 3: a blogger, a Disney blogger, to like make like content

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yeah, she wants to like

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Speaker 3: live stream I guess and be famous.

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Speaker 1: Okay, why how how old are you? How old are you?

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Speaker 1: And as like the you and how old is your

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Speaker 3: I am twenty two. My middle sister she takes with

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Speaker 3: her is nineteen, and then my our youngest sister is seventeen.

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Speaker 1: So you had so, oh it's what you said. Your

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Speaker 1: mom takes your sister with you with her?

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Speaker 3: She takes the middle sister with her.

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Speaker 1: Oh but just her? Are you? Are you? Why don't you?

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Speaker 1: Do you not want to go with her?

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Speaker 3: No? She never asks or invites that. She never really

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Speaker 3: yeah she can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your mom's off, your mom's gone off the deep end.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she also see here she had we had

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Speaker 1: Oh man.

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Speaker 3: She uh decided to adopt or not adopt buy a

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Speaker 3: I don't live at home anymore, but she really doesn't

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Speaker 1: And Yeah, that fucking sucks, man, because it's it's weird.

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Speaker 1: It's hard with you when when when you have a

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Speaker 1: you had a have you like sat her down for

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Speaker 1: a conversation and been like, uh, listen, I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically we have I remember, you know, like calling

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Speaker 3: are you doing this? Like we my my sister, who's

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Speaker 3: who's still Who's seventeen? She was like sixteen at the

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Speaker 3: first time she did. She was like fifteen or fourteen,

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Speaker 3: and she was just and she was were just like

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Speaker 3: why aren't you answering? Why do you care more about

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Speaker 3: at home? What about your your dogs? Just abandoned them

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Speaker 3: still on top of everything.

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Speaker 1: M why are you guys? Are you guys in Florida?

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Speaker 1: Or is she like taking no plane trips?

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Speaker 3: No, she's driving.

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Speaker 1: Where what state are you in?

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Speaker 3: We're in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: She fucking is driving. How often is she driving down

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Speaker 1: to Florida to become a Disney blog person?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well right now she has a stupid thing called

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Speaker 3: a job. That so she can't like take as much

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Speaker 3: time off as she wants to spend in Disney. But

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Speaker 3: she needs a job to pay for Disney, so she

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Speaker 3: has to work unfortunately, so fad Okay, but she goes.

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Speaker 3: She used to. The longest she was there was maybe

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Speaker 3: six weeks once and then she went. She goes maybe

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Speaker 3: about three times a year at least.

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Speaker 1: So what I mean, what's up with? What's up with you?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? Are you like in school or something?

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Speaker 3: Oh? No, I've worked. I've worked like ever since I

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Speaker 3: was like legally able to. Actually I was. I was

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Speaker 1: And you can't and you can't you can't get You

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Speaker 3: She's doing all this stuff. I'm like, you made her

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Speaker 1: What about what about your what about your your younger sister?

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Speaker 3: no I can't really go to the house really and

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, is I I I. Here's what I'll say,

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Speaker 3: In my dad's okay, Yeah, he's miserable. There's no love

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Speaker 1: sounds like you're the sister that's still in high school.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you can continue to have a good

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Speaker 1: You're only you're twenty two. You can fucking go. You're

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Speaker 1: twenty two. You're a hard working person. Okay, corn, you're

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Speaker 1: You you live with, you live alone, you live You

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Speaker 3: House right, Yeah, I left the house.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Do you live by yourself? You live with roommates?

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Speaker 1: Do you live by yourself? Do you live with roommates

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Speaker 1: Look you you had enough initiative coming from this crazy

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Speaker 1: So just do me, So, just do me, do me

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Speaker 1: I just the worst thing from my perspective that could

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Speaker 1: the it's your focal point in my life, and just

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Speaker 3: I have a good support system. I think it's just

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Speaker 3: You know, my mom had me be a I was

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Speaker 1: Listen again, I I would corn, Listen Corn again. I'm

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Speaker 1: the craziness. Hold on tight to the market you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have You're gonna have a great life. You're gonna raise

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Speaker 1: you if if it's what you want. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's what you want, but if if, if one

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Speaker 1: day it's what you want to have your own family

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Speaker 1: and whatnot, you know you can do that. You can

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Speaker 1: live a great life. And if you do decide that

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Speaker 1: you want to have a family in the future, you

446
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Speaker 1: can take their asses to UH Universal Studios because it's

447
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Speaker 1: it's much better anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Corn, Yeah, I mean, you're right.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

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Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think here, I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: is is there any like anyone any I don't want

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Speaker 3: to have a question or anything like that in the

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Speaker 3: chat or I can answer. I just you know, it's

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Speaker 3: it's just really I I know I have to love

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Speaker 3: I love myself more and put the bug good.

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Speaker 1: That's what you should do.

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Speaker 3: But I just have to accept that part. That's the

459
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Speaker 3: hard part I can't accept is that, you know, I

460
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Speaker 3: need to stop loving others more than myself.

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Speaker 1: Good luck, good luck Corn, just again, I'll say it

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Speaker 1: for the five hundred, for the you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how long I've been a ranting, but just try

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Speaker 1: try try, try beyond the craziness to find a u

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Speaker 1: a good path forward for your own life, Okay, and

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Speaker 1: just try to focus on that shit.

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Speaker 3: I will, I will. I really appreciate all.

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Speaker 1: Right, take care of Corn, Bye.

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Speaker 3: Bye, thank you, bye bye.

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Speaker 1: I truly do believe that the rides at Universal Studios

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Speaker 1: are a lot better. What does Universal Studios have? Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, Universe Studios have the Mario Ride, which

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Speaker 1: is good. Actually I didn't like the Mario Ride that much.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem with the Mario Ride is that it

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Speaker 1: was a shooting ride, and it was a three D ride,

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Speaker 1: but it also had like physical sets, you know, so

477
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Speaker 1: like there was too much going on, and I like,

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Speaker 1: occasionally I would like take my three D glasses off

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Speaker 1: and have to look around at the physical sets. You

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Speaker 1: know what, Maybe I'll have a family and abandon them

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Speaker 1: and become a Universal Studios blogger. That actually that sounds

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Speaker 1: kind of fun. Hello. Hello, Hey, what's your name?

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Speaker 5: Anthony?

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Speaker 1: Anthony? Up? Anthony? How you doing. I'm all right, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm hanging in there. I'm trying, no, but I'm

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Speaker 1: figuring it out.

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Speaker 7: You know, what's wrong?

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Speaker 5: What's wrong? Derek?

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Speaker 1: Oh God, I don't want to look. Man. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm just not interested in forwarding out diarrhea

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Speaker 1: of my life any and in this very moment, in

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Speaker 1: this very moment, I would prefer actually for you to

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Speaker 1: diarrhea the what's going on in your life? So please

494
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Speaker 1: diarrhea into my ears.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I honestly didn't expect to get on here.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I had a topic to talk about, not

497
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Speaker 5: really necessarily about my life. I don't know. If you

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Speaker 5: want to hear about it? Yeah, go ahead, I mean yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm kinda ive been interested in bitcoin for a while.

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Speaker 5: That interests you?

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Speaker 1: Sure, man, we can talk about.

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Speaker 5: What's your what's your opinion on it? I'm sorry? Do

503
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Speaker 5: you care opinion at all?

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Speaker 1: Do I care at all about bitcoin?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do I care at all about big?

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Speaker 5: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: What do you think about it?

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Speaker 1: Do I care it all about bitcoin? Uh? It's a

511
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Speaker 1: thing I don't know. Does it do it? Does it

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Speaker 1: do anything? Can you use it?

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Speaker 5: Like? Can you like are you saying can you spend

514
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Speaker 5: it at a store?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: On Amazon or something?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I can't spend on Amazon quite yet.

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Speaker 1: Okay do you I Do you care about bitcoin?

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Speaker 5: I do I do?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Tell me tell me why you care about it me?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'll tell you my story.

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Speaker 1: Tell me your story, Tell me your story.

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Speaker 5: Okay. Well, you know, so since I was eighteen, like

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Speaker 5: in in high school, I was always interested in, like

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Speaker 5: I got interested in like the stock market and stuff,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean? So like that interested me.

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Speaker 5: I started learning about investing and then kind of go

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Speaker 5: into like this is pre COVID, So like pre COVID

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Speaker 5: investing was different, i'd say, right, Like, you learn about

532
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Speaker 5: investing and you're like, oh, dividend stocks, Oh, you could

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Speaker 5: make three cents per share if you buy I don't know,

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Speaker 5: coke or pepsi or something. This is sounding boring. Sorry,

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Speaker 5: this isn't this isn't very entertaining.

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Speaker 1: I guess. I'm here to I am here to listen

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Speaker 1: to you talk. So dear guys, just go ahead, all right.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, So, you know, start investing in the like

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Speaker 5: dividend stocks, and I'm like, okay, this is going you know,

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Speaker 5: I start to build up a little bit of a position,

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Speaker 5: get a couple like a thousand or two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 5: I'm eighteen at the time, so like I'm you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm young. You know, a couple thousands pretty good for me,

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Speaker 5: I guess. And then COVID hit and like I start

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Speaker 5: learning about real estate too. I start learning about all

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Speaker 5: that kind of stuff, like how the market works and

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Speaker 5: how all of this happens and all of this stuff.

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Speaker 5: But then COVID kind of changed everything for me and

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Speaker 5: my like life perspective, I'd say, I as it did

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Speaker 5: for everybody, because like when you're working hard for your

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Speaker 5: money and then the government can just print twelve, like

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Speaker 5: twelve hundred dollars to everybody, that really changed my mindset

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Speaker 5: and like, I don't know, I'm on more of like

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Speaker 5: a investing side of the internet. So like you see

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Speaker 5: the FED chairman go out and say, oh, yeah, we

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Speaker 5: have unlimited cash to hand out to people that need money.

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Speaker 5: Well it's like, well, I work for my money. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 5: We don't have money printers, we can't just print money.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I started looking into money like this this

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Speaker 5: whole and then I started doing research and then you

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Speaker 5: find out like, okay, well they say the stimulus check

563
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Speaker 5: isn't going to cause inflation, but you know for a

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Speaker 5: fact it is. And then Drone Pale and all of

565
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Speaker 5: these people say, oh, no, inflation, that's not gonna happen,

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Speaker 5: and then inflation happens, and then they're like, okay, well

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Speaker 5: inflation is transitory, and then well you're like, well you're

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Speaker 5: lying because this is a lot of money and slation

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Speaker 5: is in transitory. It's going to keep happening for years.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, you know what, you know what, you know

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Speaker 1: what you are You're right, this is getting a little boring.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of figured that's okay.

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Speaker 1: But but what do you want to do with all

574
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Speaker 1: your money? Man? What do you want to do with it?

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Speaker 1: What's the point? What's the goal?

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Speaker 5: What do I want to So basically a lot of people.

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Speaker 5: So my perspective is that bitcoin is the new revolution,

578
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Speaker 5: the new money of the world. I think it is

579
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Speaker 5: the best invention to ever you know, one of the

580
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Speaker 5: best inventions ever created. I think the story of bitcoin

581
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Speaker 5: is very interesting. I think, yeah, and I think a

582
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Speaker 5: lot when I talk to people about it, it's either

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Speaker 5: something like this, you know, it's boring, my story's boring

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Speaker 5: about it, whatever, or it's a scam or you know,

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Speaker 5: and it's like, how do I go about talking to

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Speaker 5: people about bitcoin? You know? In in a better fact?

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen man, how old are you?

588
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Speaker 5: Twenty four?

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Speaker 1: Twenty four? And you wanna what do you want to

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Speaker 1: do with all your Because here's here's let me tell

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Speaker 1: you something. One day, one day, you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: million dollars, right do you think?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one day you're gonna have a million dollars. What

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do with it? You know what are

596
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Speaker 1: you gonna, is it gonna? What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: What do you want to Lambeau? You wanna fucking do nothing?

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Speaker 1: What do you wanna? What do you wanna do?

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Speaker 4: You know?

600
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Speaker 5: I just want to take care of my future family

601
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Speaker 5: and stuff. Nothing crazy.

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Speaker 1: Probably that's pretty good. That's pretty good. All right?

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Speaker 7: Well, very boring.

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Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not really interesting.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's not the hold on, hold on, hold

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Speaker 8: on man? Why why don't we don't need to We're

607
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Speaker 8: just talking. We don't need to be talking, and also

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Speaker 8: having hitting ourselves with with judgment calls as to whether

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Speaker 8: or not we're interesting.

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Speaker 1: Or boring or you know, we don't have time. That

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Speaker 1: was being funny. I mean, also it is kind of boring.

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Speaker 1: But but we we but we can withhold our judgment

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Speaker 1: calls on ourselves. Okay, And I'm not saying hold on. Sure,

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Speaker 1: the conversation that we were having was boring, but we don't.

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Speaker 1: But you, I'm not going I would never say that

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Speaker 1: you are a boring person. You are not an interesting

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Speaker 1: person as you as a human being, your essence. I

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Speaker 1: would never say that, and I wouldn't want you to

619
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Speaker 1: say that about yourself. You know, we're just talking. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we could talk about a billion different things. I'm not

621
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Speaker 1: but I don't want you to walk away from this

622
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Speaker 1: conversation thinking that you yourself are not are are inherently

623
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Speaker 1: not interesting, even if I look, I like talking about

624
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Speaker 1: stocks and uh things. You know, maybe it's maybe, but

625
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Speaker 1: but in this very moment, perhaps I am not that interesting.

626
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: Perhaps you are not that interesting in this very moment.

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Speaker 1: But we've lived long lives. We're gonna keep living long lives,

628
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Speaker 1: will be will be more things at more moments. We

629
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Speaker 1: don't have to fucking say that we're one thing forever

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Speaker 1: and in the future and forever in the past, you

631
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So yeah, that's that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: my takeaway from this conversation about bitcoin is don't beat you.

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Speaker 1: Don't beat yourself up about it.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: You're You're plenty interesting. You're a human being alive on

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Speaker 1: the ear. You're the fact that you are our conscious

637
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Speaker 1: being is is an insane thing. So just keep being

638
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: that and you're inherently interesting and whatever you do on

639
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Speaker 1: top of that is interesting.

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Speaker 5: You know what, I think You're just I really, to

641
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 5: be honest, I think you're just saying a bunch of

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00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 5: words to get me off the call. I think that's

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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: where this is geting.

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00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: Event well, yeah, eventually, yeah, we'll have to end the call.

645
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: But but I you do you think I don't mean

646
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: the things I'm saying to you right now?

647
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Speaker 5: I mean, not necessarily, no, honestly, No, you.

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Speaker 1: Mean you know, as in you believe no isn' you

649
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: think I don't believe them? And no is in you what?

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Speaker 5: I don't think you're believe. I don't think you believe

651
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 5: the words that you say.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what I do right now. And if

653
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Speaker 1: you if you don't want to, if you don't want

654
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: to believe them, that's on you. But I believe them.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right man?

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Speaker 1: What's what's your name again?

657
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Speaker 5: Anthony?

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Speaker 1: Anthony Anthony? I sincerely, No, I'm not. I'm not religious

659
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Speaker 1: really why, I don't know. I grew up a little religious.

660
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: Are you religious?

661
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 7: Recently?

662
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 5: I've been getting religious?

663
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, into Jesus.

664
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've actually I actually just got baptized on Sunday.

665
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Well good actually, good man, listen. Here's the thing is

666
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: I I I say again, on here?

667
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 5: Do you talk about it? On here?

668
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Do I talk about what?

669
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 6: On here?

670
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 5: Religion?

671
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: So sometimes sometimes Okay, I genuine and you know what,

672
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: this is the last thing I'm gonna say because I

673
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: believe these things I'm saying, and I'm gonna say them

674
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: to you. In finality, I genuinely believe You're gonna make

675
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Jesus is gonna guide you. You think

676
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: I'm fucking lying to you. I'm being one hundred and series.

677
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna make a million dollars, You're gonna find a

678
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: beautiful wife, You're gonna have children. You're gonna long forget

679
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: when you're like forty five years old and you have

680
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: a beautiful wife and children and you're taking them to

681
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: church and you have a bunch of money. You it'll

682
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: have been forty it'll have been twenty years since you

683
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: even ever thought about this phone call. And you're gonna

684
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: do that. I don't I don't know what I'm going

685
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: to be doing, but I just know in my gut

686
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: you're going to be living a happy and nice life.

687
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: And you think I'm just saying and you think I'm

688
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: just saying this to you to get you off the phone.

689
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to get you off the phone just because

690
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: I am. But you but you think I'm fucking bullshitting you,

691
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: and I I mean what I'm saying one hundred percent.

692
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm I don't.

693
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't.

694
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 5: I don't think I'm look, I started getting into bitcoin

695
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: because of the money.

696
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 7: I don't.

697
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 5: I think it's bigger than just the money. I think

698
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 5: it's about the whole system of government. You know, people

699
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 5: you know on the left, they say it's because of capitalism.

700
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 5: You know, I don't. I think that the Fiat currency

701
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 5: system is the problem. So like when you say, oh,

702
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 5: I'm going to make a million dollars, I don't really

703
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 5: have that exact perspective, you know what I mean, Like,

704
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 5: I don't look at the world through a dollar perspective.

705
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 5: If that makes.

706
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: Sense, it does make sense that at the world, no,

707
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: you look at I I get it, you, I get it.

708
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: You think in terms of value, now, not in terms

709
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: of dollars because of because I understand. But but you

710
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: hold on, you're getting lost. But you're getting lost in

711
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: the semantics. You will have a million, you will have

712
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: whatever the equivalent of a million dollars is, but it's

713
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: not gonna matter. What's gonna matter is you're gonna have

714
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: a wife and children and Jesus and that's gonna guide

715
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: you through this insane experience of being alive. And that's

716
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: what that's what I have to say to you. And

717
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm extremely happy for you. I think you're gonna

718
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: be I think you're gonna fucking blow it out of

719
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: the water. And you really do think I'm being facetious

720
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: right now, And I just swear on my child's life

721
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: that I'm not. No, I'm swearing on my first child's life.

722
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm not being facetious about any the things I'm saying

723
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: to you. I I think you're gonna have a good

724
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: life because you're guided. But you seem sane. I mean

725
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: that in my God, that's how you feel as you

726
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: feel easy.

727
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going to end the call, but I really

728
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 5: last thing I'm gonna say, okay, is it's about you know,

729
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 5: religion and Jesus. And if you're you care about the

730
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: truth in life, you know you want truth, I would

731
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 5: say really historical from historical evidence. You know, ask yourself these.

732
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: Questions, there's no fucking truth, Anthony, that there's no fucking truth.

733
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: There's your truth, there's my truth, there's eight billion truths.

734
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 5: That's not the perspective I have, but I'm believing.

735
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 9: No exactly, that's what hold on what you Anthony, What

736
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 9: you just said proves my point.

737
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Speaker 1: That is not the perspective that you have. We have

738
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: two different perspectives. We have two different truths.

739
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 5: It's not necessarily because Okay, say you don't believe in

740
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 5: God and I do, and Jesus is real and God

741
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 5: is real, and you think that when you die you

742
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 5: just go into the ground and you become a fertilizer.

743
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 5: But that's not true. There is one truth, you know

744
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 5: what I mean? Do you see what I'm saying?

745
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: Look right, the sky is blue. But if I say

746
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: it's green, that's my vote in reality. And reality is reality.

747
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: What is truth?

748
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 5: Truth is what the truth is. It's it's the fact God.

749
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna have such an awesome life. I really believe

750
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have such an I really believe.

751
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 7: That's not true.

752
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: You're gonna have an awesome life for multiple I just

753
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna have it. Also, life for multiple reasons is

754
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: one You're gonna find some other super Christian lady and

755
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna start a Christian household. Your life

756
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: is gonna have direction, to it, guided by Jesus and God.

757
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna raise Christian children, You're gonna get involved in

758
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: the church community. You're gonna make smart financial decisions and

759
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: be able to send your kids to You're gonna have

760
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: a great life, Anthony.

761
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 5: Did I appreciate that way?

762
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: I believe. I don't know what's gonna I don't know.

763
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen. Then maybe I know

764
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a great life. And I fully and

765
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: we I you have your own truth. That's what's exciting

766
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: to me about your life is that you have your

767
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: own truth. I have my I'm sort of searching for

768
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: a little for some version of truth right now. But

769
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: you have your own truth. That's great. I'm excited for you.

770
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: And I swear on on the future of of not

771
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: only America, but also of the the the you a e.

772
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: I swear on the future of the of of Saint Lucia.

773
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: I swear on the future of the state of Montana.

774
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: And I swear on my cousin's life that you're gonna

775
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: have a great life because I believe in it so heavily.

776
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: And you think I'm being facetious, but I'm not. I

777
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: was not you know what, Yeah, go ahead, you have

778
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: all right, go ahead, you have something else.

779
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 5: Well, I was just gonna go back to the three questions.

780
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm gonna end it before you get

781
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: into the three questions. But I because we're gonna go

782
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: in circles. But Anthony, I love you so much, Anthony.

783
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: I love you so much. You're gonna have a great life,

784
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: and I will see you hopefully, hopefully. Anthony.

785
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 9: If there is one truth, if there is, Anthony, Anthony,

786
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 9: shut the fuck up, Anthony. If there's one truth, Anthony,

787
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 9: shut up for a second. I hope there is one truth,

788
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 9: and that I see you in heaven and I will

789
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 9: talk to you around. I will, Actually I'll probably never

790
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 9: talk to you again. But I think you will have

791
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 9: an awesome life, and I love you very much, and

792
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 9: I'll see you around, hopefully we will.

793
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: I'll see you in heaven. Okay, I'm gonna hang up

794
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: on you. Bye. That was Anthony. I know we're gonna

795
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: get I've a whole lot a few things to clear up.

796
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna get a ton of negative comments

797
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: about Anthony, and I will defend him against all of

798
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: those negative comments because I believed it deeply in what

799
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: I said to him just now. I believe he's gonna

800
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: have a good life, He's gonna raise nice children. He'll

801
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: never understand. I don't think can I say, can I

802
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: share something? Maybe it's a little bit depressing. But I

803
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: saw a comment on the internet, which is where I

804
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: go to receive all of my best information. I saw

805
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: a comment on Reddit. If ignorance is bliss, is clarity misery?

806
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: I think I don't want to say that Anthony is ignorant.

807
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: I actually take that back, but I don't. I think

808
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: in Anthony's belief he finds meaning and happiness.

809
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 3: Uh.

810
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: And I I think he's going to have a good

811
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: life because of that. And I think that because he's

812
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: gonna he I think he'll be fine. I just think

813
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: he'll be okay. I mean everything I said, I even

814
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: I and I swear that I mean everything I said

815
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: on the State of Montana and on the UAE and

816
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: on Yeah, he'll be fine. He'll be fine. You'll be fine.

817
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: Go if you're thinking about writing some fucking comment, you can,

818
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: but you'll be fine, and he'll be fine, and everything

819
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: will be fine.

820
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 5: Joe, Hello, Hey man, how are you hey?

821
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: What's up?

822
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 5: Man?

823
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 6: Uh?

824
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: Fuck? I'm okay, man? How are you.

825
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 7: Good? I'm actually working from home today.

826
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: Very nice? What do you do?

827
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: Uh? I trained as a as a physical oceanographer.

828
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: Hey, well I say that one more time.

829
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: A physical oceanographers physical oceanographer.

830
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: Wow.

831
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Speaker 4: So I don't I don't. I don't do like dolphins

832
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 4: or whales or any of that stuff. But just you

833
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: know how currents move around the ocean.

834
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: Wow, how currents move around the ocean? Is that exciting stuff?

835
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: It can be if you want to know where trash

836
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 4: is going, or if you're a I suppose if you're

837
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 4: a government and you want to sue another government, uh

838
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 4: for for pouting and water, it could be exciting.

839
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's all.

840
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: Very nice, very nice. Josh, you said, Joe, Joe, you

841
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: call me Josh.

842
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 5: I'm Joe.

843
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: It's very sweet that I can call you that if

844
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: I want, Joe. Is there anything in particular that you

845
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: want to talk about today?

846
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 7: Not much. I actually wasn't even expecting to get through.

847
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 7: It's been uh, I don't know, an easy day.

848
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: I figured be fun just to shoot the ships all

849
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 4: you're streaming and uh so you just got back from

850
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 4: Japan and I did welcome back to the States.

851
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: I guess, thanks buddy. Well, uh, let's see, let's see,

852
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: let's see what get what gives you, uh a meaning

853
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: in life? Joe? Why do you wake up in the

854
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: morning and do anything?

855
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: Well, these days I just had it feels like just yesterday.

856
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 4: But I've got a two year old at home now,

857
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 4: and that's that's quite bizarre.

858
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 5: Uh.

859
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 7: You know, I think about a year ago, I had.

860
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 4: Been reaching out to you as I've been processing a lot.

861
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: You know, you have a kid, and suddenly everything feels

862
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 4: like it changes in terms of priorities.

863
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

864
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

865
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 4: What you do is it's like so more often these

866
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 4: days it's you get up and you do this. You

867
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 4: do your job because well you have to, not necessarily because.

868
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 7: You like it.

869
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 4: I felt like in my twenties I could just kind

870
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 4: of fuck around and.

871
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 7: I didn't make money.

872
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: It was just me. You know, it wasn't really high

873
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 4: high stakes. You know, now there's a there's a being

874
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 4: that actually.

875
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 7: Depends on me. So it's you know, sometimes.

876
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 4: You put up with more things that than than you

877
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: probably would have when it was just you.

878
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 7: Mm hmm, yeah, mm hmm.

879
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 5: But y know, this.

880
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: Having so goddamn, let's see, like ten years ago, what

881
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 4: year is this, twenty twenty, fifteen years ago? Holy shit,

882
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 4: fifteen years ago when I started studying oceanography, my mom

883
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 4: had died, and you know, I kind of went into

884
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 4: this phase of just kind of like putting my head down.

885
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 7: And doing work, and then it was more trying to travel.

886
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: And you know, kind of figure out what what the

887
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 4: hell this whole thing is that I'm living. And I

888
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: don't know, I can't believe, well, I can't even believe fifteen.

889
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 7: Years is gone by to get to this point.

890
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 4: But I moved around a lot, like basically evorite two years,

891
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 4: went to another state, tried another job. You know, I

892
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 4: just really partner got pregnant and have we had to

893
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 4: figure out O.

894
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: Sorry you cut out after you said that you moved

895
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: states every two years.

896
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

897
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 4: No, so it's just after after a while of doing that,

898
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 4: my partner got pregnant and we had to figure out

899
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: how we were going to accommodate, you know, another person.

900
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 7: We had been living like in.

901
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 4: A little five hundred square foot apartment with a dog

902
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 4: and a cat already, and it was like, you can't

903
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 4: it was I don't know it just didn't seem like

904
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 4: it was going to be a nice, comfortable space to

905
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 4: have a family, and so we ended up.

906
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 7: Moving to a very rural area. This is not like

907
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 7: a lot to do, but I don't know.

908
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: It just opened up some opportunities since folks were getting

909
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 4: more comfortable with like remote work, started working for myself

910
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: and just doing consulting and other things on the side,

911
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: and eventually became enough to keep it going. But but now,

912
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 4: you know, with with kid being here, it's you start

913
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: taking jobs that necessary. You know, years ago I would

914
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 4: have turned down.

915
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 7: But now you just kind of do them because.

916
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: Well it's work, not necessarily supposed to enjoy it, but

917
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 4: you need to keep the you know, keep the beasts fed.

918
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: I guess, right, right, right, right, yeah? I mean, how

919
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: how old are you now?

920
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 7: I am thirty four?

921
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about life compared to when

922
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: you were in your twenties? Do you feel better about it?

923
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: Do you feel worse about it? Do feel thinking about it?

924
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 7: Way better?

925
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: Way better?

926
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I was just I don't know, shoving a

927
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 4: lot of shit down in my twenties, and it is

928
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 4: just like I think the moving was just like running constantly,

929
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 4: just not really wanting to process deaths in my family

930
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 4: and all that.

931
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: M yeah, what what do you feel like you were

932
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: running from?

933
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 4: I suppose, well, uh, and so, I mean my mom

934
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: had shot herself and I was trying to understand, you know,

935
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: where that capacity to do something like that came from.

936
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 4: And I'd have nights, you know, I ended up, you know,

937
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 4: smoking weed a lot, and I sort of have problems

938
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 4: with alcohol a little bit and kind of kind of

939
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: went through these like sort of roller coaster phases of

940
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: like now I'm gonna be clean and sober, and sometimes

941
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: I was like, ah, fuck it all who cares? And

942
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: I think, but there was a lot a lot of

943
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 4: times when I was in those like those those darker phases,

944
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 4: it was just thinking about where.

945
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 7: Where that capacity comes from. Is that like a genetic thing?

946
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 7: Is it? Is it you know, is it really brain.

947
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 4: Chemistry or or there was there just like a certain

948
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 4: set of circumstances that that drove her to that. And

949
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 4: you know what, it didn't help that, you know, three

950
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 4: to four years after that, my uncle did the same

951
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 4: thing on my dad's side. So it's like, Okay, now

952
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: I got two sides of the family that are often

953
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 4: themselves for well, you know whatever reason, which and I

954
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 4: don't think I really ever got a straight answer from

955
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 4: folks about like what was really going on, because like

956
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 4: a lot of the family just doesn't want to talk

957
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 4: about it. But yeah, there's there was a lot of

958
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 4: processing of death in my twenties that I didn't think

959
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 4: i'd have to confront that young.

960
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 7: And uh, you know.

961
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 4: That I did start going to therapy and really digging

962
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 4: into that, and that was that was actually kind of

963
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 4: hard to talk about.

964
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 7: That first. Now mm hmm.

965
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: So what's uh, what's what's giving you life now? What's

966
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: what's making you feel better now?

967
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 7: Well? Uh, I like.

968
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 4: That I've got a house that I I can't it's

969
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 4: I know, it's a very hard thing to get to

970
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 4: these days, but it's something you know, I don't I

971
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 4: don't own it yet. I'm paying a mortgage, but I've

972
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 4: got something. I've got land enough to where I can

973
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 4: spend time out in the yard my partner and in

974
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 4: the kiddo and where you know, starting a garden and

975
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 4: that's growing. I can kind of I can get up

976
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 4: and work really flexible schedules.

977
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 7: I think I'm very.

978
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: Blessed that that situation ended up working out pretty good.

979
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 4: I like throwing pottery that that's been neat getting into it.

980
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that when I moved to where I

981
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 4: moved to. But there's a really cool pottery tradition in

982
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: this area. People doing wood firing and digging up their

983
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: own clay, and it's it's pretty neat.

984
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: Mm hmm hmm. What part of what part of the

985
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: town are you in?

986
00:54:59,680 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 5: Uh?

987
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 7: Western North Carolina.

988
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: Western North Carolina.

989
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 4: Pretty yeah, so not not not Ashville, but it's uh,

990
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: you know, something a little bit more affordable.

991
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: I've heard Ashville is like the a crazy like a

992
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 1: hippie place. Now it is.

993
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 4: And I know, I went there like ten years ago

994
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 4: and it was pretty cool, and then I went there

995
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 4: two years ago and the street smelled like piss.

996
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: They got they got hit pretty hard with some natural disasters,

997
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: didn't they.

998
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 7: Uh yeah last fall Helene.

999
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, their whole water system got knocked out out there.

1000
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 4: I actually have a cousin out there and she's still

1001
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 4: getting you know, I don't want.

1002
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 7: To say ration to water, but they got to go

1003
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 7: with the drugs to a truck and get fresh water.

1004
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: Mmmmm yeah.

1005
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 7: It's pretty rough.

1006
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: Have you been no, I don't think I've been, although

1007
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: I'd like to do a show there at some point.

1008
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's listeners of this podcast that live there. Yeah.

1009
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you've been to Charlotte.

1010
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, going from Asheville to Charlotte, you know that's

1011
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 4: a two hour drive. Yeah, for for folks coming further last.

1012
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's see, Uh, John, let me let me

1013
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: let me see if the chat has any questions for you, Mabe,

1014
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: let's see, is the chat of any questions for John?

1015
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: Someone Well, someone said, a pottery is so fun. Get

1016
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: involved if you can, and our interested best choice I

1017
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: ever made.

1018
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, it's the ship.

1019
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know, once you get some of

1020
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 4: the frustrating parts out, it's it's a lot of fun.

1021
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 7: Someone said.

1022
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: Someone said, are there any UFOs in the sea?

1023
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 7: Are there?

1024
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 4: You know, so they're u s O s Unidentified submerged objects?

1025
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 7: Man, I don't. I don't know, I don't.

1026
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 4: I tend not to look at that kind of stuff.

1027
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 7: I'm it's weird.

1028
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 4: I'm an oceanographer, but I sit behind the computer most

1029
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 4: of the time. It's all, you know, ocean forecasting and

1030
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 4: that kind of ship. My wife used to go out

1031
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 4: to see she she did the real she'd be able

1032
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 4: to tell you, but she's actually doing a job interview

1033
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 4: right now.

1034
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: So nice. Nice see. Someone wants to know, what do

1035
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: what do you think of the evolution of the Kelvin

1036
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: waves in the Southeastern US in the past fifty years?

1037
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 4: Evolution of Kelvin waves in the Southeastern US? And I'm well,

1038
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 4: I mean, aren't Calvin waves.

1039
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 7: All fuck?

1040
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: They fucking got you, bro, they got you, they got well.

1041
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 7: Kelvin waves are high frequencies.

1042
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 4: I don't know what they mean by evolution of Kelvin

1043
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 4: waves in the Southeast. I don't know what it was there.

1044
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 4: Maybe ask them if there's.

1045
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just trolling the Someone wants to know, do

1046
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: you do you do you?

1047
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 7: Uh?

1048
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: Do you scuba?

1049
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 7: Do I scuba?

1050
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 4: No?

1051
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 5: No?

1052
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 7: I went for my shirt in grad school and then.

1053
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 4: Never used it and I just fell out of it.

1054
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because your connection kind of sounds like

1055
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: you're calling me from under the sea.

1056
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 7: No man, I'm in I'm in rural North Carolina. The

1057
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 7: cell services kind of this year.

1058
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: Uh Okay. Then finally, what someone wants to say, do

1059
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: you know doctor Jeffrey Agnew.

1060
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 4: Agnew Agnew like Spiro Agnew, the dudes.

1061
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 7: Who worked with Nixon. No doctor Jeffrey.

1062
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: Well let's see John John. I want to keep talking

1063
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: to you, but your connection has kind of been a

1064
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: little shitty. But uh it's it's great. Oh wait, okay,

1065
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: we have one mark. We actually we have a couple

1066
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 1: of questions. I kind of want to ask. See here,

1067
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: what's your favorite fish?

1068
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 7: Favorite fish?

1069
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 4: I like flounders because they got two heads on, two

1070
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 4: eyes on one side of their body.

1071
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 7: They're fucking weird.

1072
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 4: That that or if you haven't seen them.

1073
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 6: Uh.

1074
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 7: Some people call them sunfish. Other people call them mullah mullahs.

1075
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: They look like a fish that got cut in half

1076
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 4: but is still living.

1077
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 7: It's they're weird. I like weird things.

1078
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: Uh. Where is the biggest trash island? And can we

1079
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: live on that?

1080
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 7: Can you live on? I mean you, no one, no

1081
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 7: one can stop you. I think some billionaires were trying

1082
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 7: to like do this.

1083
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

1084
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 7: I think the biggest one is still in the Pacific.

1085
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 7: Most of the stuff I'm looking at they are though.

1086
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 4: And this is just to explain my potential ignorance if

1087
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 4: there's a bigger one than in the Pacific.

1088
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 7: But I'm and the north of Europe around English Journal

1089
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 7: and all that near civilization.

1090
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the Pacific is the biggest one

1091
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 4: and then the most disgusting.

1092
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: Well let's see, John, I think, yeah, your phone is bad,

1093
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: but you're a good guy and that's all that matters.

1094
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: Is there anything else? Thanks man? Is there anything else

1095
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer

1096
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: before we go?

1097
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 4: Uh no, no, throw some pots?

1098
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know.

1099
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: Beautiful? All right, take care? Sorry about no, It's okay, John,

1100
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: Take care and good luck with your kid. All right,

1101
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: thanks man, take care. Brother goes on the line making it.

1102
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 2: Ohone calls every night, everything goes's teaching your life.