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Speaker 1: all right six and ten football team officially with the
Speaker 1: tenth overall pick in the draft. It is you. What
Speaker 1: is your off season priority? Number one? Danny mccram start
Speaker 1: with you. Now you already know my top off season priority,
Speaker 1: especially if we're talking about draft picks. I am going
Speaker 1: straight finding a way to get me a left tackle,
Speaker 1: to sure up my offensive line and get these guys
Speaker 1: back to playing the football that got us to those
Speaker 1: playoff runs and got us almost to the to the championship.
Speaker 1: You know, Bez did catch it. They changed the rule,
Speaker 1: but that's when we were really really making some moves
Speaker 1: and we were able to run the ball and people
Speaker 1: were really fearing our offensive line. So I'm doing whatever
Speaker 1: I can to share that up, and then for the
Speaker 1: rest of the draft, I'll focus on defense and free agency.
Speaker 1: I get us some defensive picks to re up this
Speaker 1: defensive backfield and a defensive line, but I'm going offensive
Speaker 1: line first. Wow, Okay, all right, Look mean, there's so
Speaker 1: many different scenarios here, because y'all know how I feel
Speaker 1: about the whole quarterback position. And if my guy falls
Speaker 1: back to ten, you know, you know how I feel
Speaker 1: about that. So let's just say that scenarios out the gate.
Speaker 1: Let's just say he's gone before he gets to ten.
Speaker 1: So we're not We're not even going to open that
Speaker 1: cookie shell. But for me, there's two positions that we
Speaker 1: need to make a priority this offseason, and I think
Speaker 1: it has to do with the drafting. We're talking specifically
Speaker 1: draft the two positions I think we need to make
Speaker 1: a number one priority for us is one the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle position, the interior position, and in the cornerback position
Speaker 1: with a de tackle position. I mean, we got, we got.
Speaker 1: I don't think Crawford is going to be back. I
Speaker 1: sincerely doubt that Crawford is going to be back. And
Speaker 1: I know that Tristan Hill, he's shown that he's on
Speaker 1: the come, that he's on the way up there and
Speaker 1: he can be considered a starting defensive tackle, but he's
Speaker 1: coming off an ACL injury and we don't know how
Speaker 1: he's going to respond to that going into the season.
Speaker 1: So for me, I think we need to pair somebody
Speaker 1: up there with Neville Gallimore who can make plays in
Speaker 1: the backfield as well as hold up the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I mean, what we've seen so far this year, well
Speaker 1: not so far. What we've seen this year was that
Speaker 1: there was too many times where the offensive line was
Speaker 1: able to get to that second level and affect our
Speaker 1: linebackers and affect Jalen Smith and Vander ash back there.
Speaker 1: So if we get a defensive tackle in there who
Speaker 1: cannot only make plays, but can hold his own against
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, forcing them to take care of him and
Speaker 1: letting our linebackers go side to side, I think that
Speaker 1: will help improve our defense a ton. Now, the second
Speaker 1: option I think we need to go for in this
Speaker 1: draft is the cornerback position. I would have said safety,
Speaker 1: but to me, I think we have a playmaker back
Speaker 1: there in Wilson, and we need a veteran guy to
Speaker 1: pair with him back there. Not somebody like a Simmons,
Speaker 1: not somebody in free agencies that's gonna cause a million
Speaker 1: bucks and three hundred and fifty million bucks. We need
Speaker 1: somebody that's back there, who's reasonably priced, who can be
Speaker 1: a team friendly deal and get these guys lined up.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to go safety as far as
Speaker 1: a draft, but as far as a draft, I want
Speaker 1: to go corner. We need somebody to pair with Diggs.
Speaker 1: I love Diggs on the outside. Anthony Brown has a
Speaker 1: team friendly deal. He can be that third cornerback. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on a b but he can be
Speaker 1: that nickel guy. He can be a solid starter at
Speaker 1: that nickel position for us, and I think we need
Speaker 1: to go get a corner on the outside because I'm
Speaker 1: not sold on the Woozier and I'm definitely not sold
Speaker 1: on Jordan Lewis. So for me, my priorities would be
Speaker 1: defensive tackle and corner going into this drafty, hey, listen, Church,
Speaker 1: I heard you say that you love Digs. Okay, so
Speaker 1: now you love Digs on the outside and you want
Speaker 1: to pair him up with another rookie in the drift.
Speaker 1: That makes me nervous. But you know, if you hit
Speaker 1: on the guy and you find a guy like Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey or Patrick Peterson to somebody, if you find one
Speaker 1: of those type of guys and you strike gold, then
Speaker 1: I got you. But that that does make me a
Speaker 1: little nervous. I think it is risky or work to do.
Speaker 1: But before I say, I love what he's doing out there,
Speaker 1: but I do see the potential, but I don't think
Speaker 1: he's at the level of hey, yeah, he's he's the
Speaker 1: definite guy for the future. Like they knew, he wants
Speaker 1: to give him that fifty million dollars contract already. So
Speaker 1: let me let me stop you right there, Danny, and
Speaker 1: ask this question, what if Patrick Peterson becomes available, because
Speaker 1: that has been talked about and he may not have
Speaker 1: a future in Arizona and with you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: not exactly sure of their salary cap situation, but if
Speaker 1: Peterson's available. Your thoughts that, I think that depends on
Speaker 1: who you have a defensive coordinator, what type of defense
Speaker 1: do you plan on plan, because like we talked about
Speaker 1: I believe it was last week, if you get a
Speaker 1: guy here that wants to play his own defense, then
Speaker 1: you don't need a Patrick Peterson. If you want a
Speaker 1: guy that can come out here and be a leader
Speaker 1: in there and play man and man coverage so you
Speaker 1: can blitz and do these exotic type of schemes, then
Speaker 1: yeah you can. You can look at a guy like
Speaker 1: Pat and if he's not going to break the bank
Speaker 1: for you able to still sign that and get him
Speaker 1: at a reasonable price, then I will entertain that that option.
Speaker 1: But you know, if the defensive coordinated defensive scheme doesn't fit,
Speaker 1: then I wouldn't waste my money on getting a guy
Speaker 1: like that. All right, let me give you my offseason
Speaker 1: priority which is totally different than what you guys laid
Speaker 1: out to me. When I say top top offseason priorities
Speaker 1: to quarterback. This whole league runs off quarterbacks. You're whole
Speaker 1: salary cap structure is going to be based off your
Speaker 1: quarterback because in most situations, when you have a guy
Speaker 1: on a second contract as your quarterback. He's going to
Speaker 1: be the highest paid guy. So to me, Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: and his staff have to get this Dak Prescott contract
Speaker 1: taking care of as quickly as possible. You'd like it
Speaker 1: done before free agency starts in March. If you have
Speaker 1: to put a franchise tag on Dak Prescott, that's thirty
Speaker 1: eight million dollars and it's going to prohibit you from
Speaker 1: getting some free agents and it can change obviously a
Speaker 1: little bit of what you do in the draft. So
Speaker 1: to me, the Joneses need to decide what are they
Speaker 1: going to do. Are they going to go out here
Speaker 1: and get a deal done like they say they've been
Speaker 1: doing or what. But I gotta figure that whole thing
Speaker 1: out because so much revolves around what they do with Dak.
Speaker 1: When you talk about trying to get some veterans possibly
Speaker 1: up here, veteran on the d line or a veteran
Speaker 1: in the secondary, some of that money, you know, will
Speaker 1: it be available to you a free agency here and
Speaker 1: could dictate the kind of player you get, the tier
Speaker 1: player get. So to me, it's got to start with
Speaker 1: the quarterback. It's got to start there. And yeah, Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy going on radio in San Antonio saying he's looking
Speaker 1: forward to working with Dak Prescott, so he's assuming he's
Speaker 1: going to have the player. How do we have the players?
Speaker 1: The question if you're the Cowboy fan base as a
Speaker 1: four five year contract or is it a one year deal? Guys?
Speaker 1: But that to me is the top thing they got
Speaker 1: to figure out. They better they better hope that they
Speaker 1: get this man for a long term, because I guarantee
Speaker 1: if they hit him with another franchise tag, they're going
Speaker 1: to be right in the same boat the following year
Speaker 1: where it's gonna be like, all right, man, where do
Speaker 1: we spend this money? Yet we got to give all
Speaker 1: this money allocated to Dak. We're in that same position
Speaker 1: again next year if they franchise him again. They better
Speaker 1: hope they get this deal done or this could be
Speaker 1: a possibility to sick in this franchise for more more
Speaker 1: than just a year or two. When you think about it,
Speaker 1: that will that will technically be the third year that
Speaker 1: they have so much money tied up indact that they
Speaker 1: have to worry about the Cavs space. And you are
Speaker 1: correct that the number one priority is the quarterback. My
Speaker 1: must stay I was assuming I went straight to the draft.
Speaker 1: You know how I feel they need to go ahead
Speaker 1: and sign this man. They should have signed him two
Speaker 1: years ago, They should have signed him last year. Now
Speaker 1: you got a guy who's injured. You're not sure when
Speaker 1: he's really gonna be back, So now you still have
Speaker 1: to wait, Hey, do we pay him this money while
Speaker 1: his injured or not? Really be sure? Then you got
Speaker 1: Church saying, you know, maybe we should give a quarterback
Speaker 1: in the draft. All these options wouldn't even be on
Speaker 1: the table if you had already paid this guy. So
Speaker 1: make sure you get that taken care of, and then
Speaker 1: go get you a left tackle to shure up the
Speaker 1: offensive a line so you can protect them. The question
Speaker 1: I think you got to ask yourself is is Dak
Speaker 1: one of those quarterbacks that can lead a franchise to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl by himself? Can he do it strictly
Speaker 1: by him no matter how bad the defense is. Do
Speaker 1: we see him as a Patrick Mahomes or Peyton Manny
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, those type of guys that can lead an
Speaker 1: offense and lead a team to the Super Bowl without
Speaker 1: any help at all. That's the question I think they
Speaker 1: got to ask themselves. And if the Cowboys feels though
Speaker 1: he's that quarterback, he's that elite guy, then there should
Speaker 1: be there should be no reason not to pay him.
Speaker 1: But if there's questions about it, he is he need this?
Speaker 1: Does he need that? Then that's where I think we're at.
Speaker 1: That's where I think we're at right now. Well, what
Speaker 1: do you what do you mean about no here? No help?
Speaker 1: Do you mean like from the defense from like butt
Speaker 1: from the defensive side of the ball? Yeah? Okay, got you?
Speaker 1: Got you? Yeah, okay, all right. I think if he
Speaker 1: if he was starting and everybody was healthy this year,
Speaker 1: I think that they would have had a real chance,
Speaker 1: even even with how they played at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season, they would have had a real chance to
Speaker 1: wrap up the division and make some noise in the
Speaker 1: playoffs if they were healthy this season. So, so, A Church,
Speaker 1: here's my question, because I hear that a lot, and
Speaker 1: I've got a friend of mine who's a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame voter who speaks about that very thing all the time.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, how many guys in
Speaker 1: the NFL right now fit exactly what you're saying that
Speaker 1: our quarterback probably guys which how many? How many because
Speaker 1: because I don't know, you tell me maybe maybe two
Speaker 1: or three in the league that can that can do that.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think Russell Wilson can lead a
Speaker 1: team without a good defense. I think Pat McCombs can,
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe a Josh Shallotte I don't know about
Speaker 1: that for sure, but maybe a Joshallotte. Oh I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I forgot about Aaron Rodgers. Other than that,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just don't see any any
Speaker 1: other quarterback out there that can do it without any
Speaker 1: help from their defense. That's all. Those teams had a
Speaker 1: pretty good defenses. Yeah, that's what I mean. Definitely definitely
Speaker 1: better than ours. You know what we what we ran
Speaker 1: out Yeah, man, that's not saying much though that I
Speaker 1: don't I don't. I don't know who could really get
Speaker 1: you to a super Bowl with what we ran out
Speaker 1: there this year. The teams that you're like, when Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson won the Super Bowl, you know they had the Leasion, Doom, Legion,
Speaker 1: the boom. Yeah. Uh yes, Kansas City actually started playing
Speaker 1: well on defense. Uh last year when they won a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You had Matthew out there making plays. The
Speaker 1: d line was getting sacks, Aaron Rodgers was out there.
Speaker 1: They their defense played a better last year, So I
Speaker 1: think you have to have at least formidable defense if
Speaker 1: you're really serious and talking about going to make a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. Uh. I would actually throw Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: in there as well, even though he didn't win a
Speaker 1: lot of games. I mean, if you throw Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: on our team, I think they at least get to
Speaker 1: the playoffs and they didn't, like to say, I think
Speaker 1: they at least make some damage out there. And do
Speaker 1: we think that is that is that? Does that? Do
Speaker 1: we think Dak is on that level? I do? I
Speaker 1: believe Okay, I thought, well, what we saw, what we
Speaker 1: saw in just a limited amount that we saw that
Speaker 1: he played last year, we saw him being that guy
Speaker 1: that he was, the guy that was able to go.
Speaker 1: He's elevated his game every year, Barry, and so I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about him. And I put him right there
Speaker 1: in terms of Deshaun Watson, where you're looking at this
Speaker 1: guy like he's making things happen. And for all the
Speaker 1: criticism people have thrown at it out there about Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott's game going down, while Ezekiel's getting well. People may
Speaker 1: feel Zeke's game is going down, You've got to say
Speaker 1: Dak's game is going up. And Barry. You gotta also remember,
Speaker 1: and I thought Dandy hit, you've got to play at
Speaker 1: least complimentary defense if you're going to win. I look
Speaker 1: at the Green Bay Packers right now and Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: on offense. To me, yes, he is carrying the load,
Speaker 1: but they are playing some complimentary, some decent defense in
Speaker 1: Green Band. It ain't the world's greatest, but you gotta
Speaker 1: sit up here and do something. I go ahead and
Speaker 1: look at BN Roethlisberger and the defense, and they've gotten Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: You know, the Pittsburgh defense suffered some injuries, but you
Speaker 1: know it's the greatest Big Big Ben's career has been.
Speaker 1: This year. They tried to throw the ball and down
Speaker 1: a stretcher. He showed you he can't do it. I
Speaker 1: think Dak Prescott has a better opportunity as a quarterback
Speaker 1: in his offense and what I saw from Roethlisberger, and
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger got some weapons now, especially on the outside, they
Speaker 1: can't run it worth the stink. But I think Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott has shown you as you look around this league.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that you invest in. And that's what
Speaker 1: this is really about, Barry, more so than can you
Speaker 1: win me a Super Bowl? Is if I invest these
Speaker 1: dollars in you, can you potentially get me there? Because
Speaker 1: that's all you're looking for. You know, we usk about
Speaker 1: a guy like Josh Allen, you know, Canny get you there.
Speaker 1: It's looking like he can. You know, the money that
Speaker 1: they put in Joe Flacco it ended up paying off.
Speaker 1: They paid Russell Wilson before he showed you that he
Speaker 1: was a quarterback who quote unquote could carry you. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a defense. Those teams they did,
Speaker 1: they did see they all defense. Yeah, you're you're you're right,
Speaker 1: and so guess what the Cowboys need to do is
Speaker 1: get themselves of defense. But I think you've got the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's to answer your question just unequivocally, Danny,
Speaker 1: and I believe Barry you have the quarterback. I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about four. I'm worried about your defense. And I
Speaker 1: want to see a bounce back from the offensive line
Speaker 1: and a bounceback from twenty one. And I want to
Speaker 1: see twenty one. But I ain't worried about four And oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think for as a phenomenal player. I
Speaker 1: think that is a phenomenal player. But do you think
Speaker 1: he can lead distant because if we pay him what
Speaker 1: they what people are saying we're gonna end up paying him,
Speaker 1: We're not gonna have any cast space to improve his defense.
Speaker 1: Do you think he can go out there and take
Speaker 1: this team with the with the lack luxurre defense he has,
Speaker 1: can he take them to the next level? That's that's
Speaker 1: the only question I have. I don't think he is
Speaker 1: a bad quarterback at all. I think he's a great quarterback.
Speaker 1: But I think he needs help on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball. And if we pay him what we
Speaker 1: want to book people are saying we should pay him
Speaker 1: that defense. If we don't hit in the draft, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be lackluster. And we talk here. When we just
Speaker 1: sat here and talk about all those quarterbacks that I mentioned,
Speaker 1: they all had a decent defense that had ended up
Speaker 1: a comparable defense that ended up leading them to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. So for me, I don't think he can
Speaker 1: do it by himself. I think he needs more help
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. But it's going
Speaker 1: to be extremely hard to do that when we pay
Speaker 1: him this astronomical amount, and when we're left with draft picks,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to hit on every single one of
Speaker 1: those draft picks to get a better defense. And it's
Speaker 1: gonna be hard. It's gonna be a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: All right. You go back to the game they play
Speaker 1: with see it. Let me put the rest of this
Speaker 1: postle together for you, Church, so you can see where
Speaker 1: I'm coming from. So I believe that Dak has worked
Speaker 1: that much money one because he has the talent. We've
Speaker 1: seen him do it on the field. When he was
Speaker 1: off the field, we've seen one of the biggest lacks
Speaker 1: of leadership that we've seen in the NFL period. We've
Speaker 1: seen what that can do to an entire locker room,
Speaker 1: an entire organization. The guy is a natural born leader,
Speaker 1: and he changes the dynamic of the entire team. When
Speaker 1: you go out there and you're gonna look for a
Speaker 1: guy in the draft, you're not gonna get that. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be missing out on what that is able to
Speaker 1: do in the field, what you've already seen him prove
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and what you've seen him be able
Speaker 1: to do in the locker room. And two on the defense.
Speaker 1: This is where me and you kind of differ a
Speaker 1: little bit because you sixty forty players and I'm sixty
Speaker 1: forty coaches, Like I really believe that Mike Nolan is
Speaker 1: the biggest issue here. I think some of these guys
Speaker 1: can still really play, and if you get them in
Speaker 1: the right scheme with the right coach, and I think
Speaker 1: they'll play a little better to make this defense be formidable.
Speaker 1: They did play better at the end of the season
Speaker 1: once they started picking up on some stuff. So I
Speaker 1: think if you get them in there with a full
Speaker 1: offseason and a true defensive coach that can get these
Speaker 1: guys get the most out of them, I think you
Speaker 1: have a formidable defense and then you just add a
Speaker 1: couple of pieces. I don't I mean from what from
Speaker 1: what you guys told me on that winning streak, and
Speaker 1: we're in the winning streak happened when we said the
Speaker 1: defense started playing a little bit better, And what you
Speaker 1: guys told me when they played a little bit better
Speaker 1: was who are they going against? We went against Cincinnati
Speaker 1: with Brandon Allen. We went against who's the San Francisco
Speaker 1: with u who was number four back there bettered or
Speaker 1: whatever his name, Nick Mullins. I mean, we went against
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. We ended up losing that game. And then
Speaker 1: I forget who who our third victory was, and that
Speaker 1: little that little spiel we had there. Who was Cincinnati
Speaker 1: San Francisco And we had one more that we took
Speaker 1: a victory from. Anyways, those all they who are we
Speaker 1: playing against? I don't seek the defense Philadelphia. I don't Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: And we played against a rookie quarterback and Jalen Hursts
Speaker 1: and that defense. So when we sit there and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we got the pieces, we just need better coaching. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, who do we play against?
Speaker 1: We played against the good teams. Where was our defense? Then,
Speaker 1: you know, so I don't know, I don't know. No, No,
Speaker 1: we still we still need we still need more pieces.
Speaker 1: We still need to fill in the pieces that you
Speaker 1: spoke about. I'm saying, Okay, we saw saw some guys
Speaker 1: that originally when we started the season, they were on
Speaker 1: the up trend, and we've seen a guy who was
Speaker 1: on the downtrend last year, and we automatically assumed that, hey,
Speaker 1: he had a bad year in the previous year. You
Speaker 1: get him in the right situation, he's going to be
Speaker 1: able to come back. Speaking about Tank, and it's true,
Speaker 1: we didn't see we didn't and we didn't see that happen.
Speaker 1: So when you think about you having tanked, you having
Speaker 1: a Randy Gregory, you have an emergent Neville Gallimore. You
Speaker 1: have a Tristan Hill who was who was playing a
Speaker 1: little bit better. He could be coming off a cl
Speaker 1: But you have talents. You have draft picks, and you
Speaker 1: got Jalon Smith and Venders. You have guys on the
Speaker 1: defense to where I believe if you get the correct
Speaker 1: coaching and get them doing doing a scheme, but they
Speaker 1: understand and they can maximize their ability in I think
Speaker 1: that you have the pieces to start. Like you said,
Speaker 1: you add a cornerback, you add a safety, and I
Speaker 1: think that's your rolling Church. Here's one thing I want
Speaker 1: to go back to because I mean, I love Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm a huge Russell Wilson fan, and I
Speaker 1: also felt that throughout Russell's years and you know, they
Speaker 1: never gave a guy enough credit. It was kind of like, hey,
Speaker 1: they won in spiding you, but you know he was limited.
Speaker 1: They they chose a certain rud of how much they
Speaker 1: wanted to give him in the guy improved, I mean
Speaker 1: Russell improved and got better, and I feel that Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott is continuing to get better along the same lines
Speaker 1: we saw Russell Wilson. But let's remember now January nineteen,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are facing the Seahawks and they're going into
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter down fourteen to ten. Cowboys going at
Speaker 1: nine place, sixty seven yard drive that ends up with
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Eli touchdown, take the lead seventeen fourteen, and then
Speaker 1: um Dak Prescott takes him on eleven play drive sixty
Speaker 1: three yards, he scores on a one yard run to
Speaker 1: make a twenty four or fourteen. Cowboys end up winning
Speaker 1: twenty four twenty two in the playoffs. And then you
Speaker 1: look at a game this year where they went to
Speaker 1: Seattle and the Cowboys were that wretched defense. That was
Speaker 1: the game that the Cowboys were in their right till
Speaker 1: the end, and the Seahawks won at thirty eight thirty one.
Speaker 1: But Dak Prescott in that game four hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: two yards, three touchdowns, two picks, Russell Wilson three fifteen
Speaker 1: five touchdowns, you know, gets that bad Cowboy defense and
Speaker 1: then Seattle unlike the Cowboys, decided that they will go
Speaker 1: run the football in that game. So when you look
Speaker 1: at what he's done up against the guy like Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: he's right there. Go back to that game against Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers when the Cowboys were thirteen and three his rookie year.
Speaker 1: You look at the statistics, Dak Prescott went, told, it
Speaker 1: told with Aaron Rodgers. It ain't his fault. He couldn't
Speaker 1: that he ain't playing defense. As they convert was a
Speaker 1: third and twenty one and end up winning the football game.
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott to me, continues, every time you ask him
Speaker 1: to meet the bar and get better, He's done it, Mary,
Speaker 1: He's done it. So this is true. But but in
Speaker 1: this but in that Packers game though, in that Packers game, though,
Speaker 1: we talk about how we talk about how you know,
Speaker 1: you know, all these these empty calories and all these
Speaker 1: empty stats, And that's what I think if we don't
Speaker 1: have a defense going into next year, that's what I
Speaker 1: think our team will look like. It'll be a lot
Speaker 1: of blowouts. Here comes Dak Prescott leading us back into
Speaker 1: the game. It'll end up being a close game, but
Speaker 1: we'll end up taking that L. I think we need
Speaker 1: a defense to help Dak Prescott get to that next level.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's terrible, he can't beat the leader
Speaker 1: of our team or anything like that. I'm just saying it,
Speaker 1: without a good defense, we'll have a lot of those
Speaker 1: packer games where it's all empty calories. It might be
Speaker 1: a thirty eight to seven at the beginning. Oh he's
Speaker 1: leading us back and the score was thirty eight thirty four?
Speaker 1: What a game? Did you see that? But we ended
Speaker 1: up taking the L. So I just think he needs
Speaker 1: that comparable defense. But that's no, it's not on him
Speaker 1: at all. Can't control that. That's that's where he can't
Speaker 1: control that. That's why I think he needs he exactly.
Speaker 1: That's why I think he needs to get the We
Speaker 1: need to get that money on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. I think we need more help on the
Speaker 1: defensis something. We don't have that but obviously, and I'm
Speaker 1: okay with that, and I'm okay with that's all right
Speaker 1: with that. To me, I think the key to winning.
Speaker 1: To me, I think you have to be on you
Speaker 1: have to be on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: I think the key to winning championship is on it.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, I could be completely wrong, but
Speaker 1: I think the key is on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. If you said that, if you said that, Barry, Barry,
Speaker 1: if you truly believe that, you'd be wearing a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl ring. This is true. But we both but we
Speaker 1: at but we had a less than a less than
Speaker 1: average quarterback. Like we didn't need to have an average quarterback.
Speaker 1: We had a less than average quarter backs. What happened
Speaker 1: when you go cheap, when you go to dollar in
Speaker 1: general and you get it? What has happened with all
Speaker 1: the defense the past four years? We went cheap on
Speaker 1: defense the past four years, and where have we gone? Nowhere?
Speaker 1: So if you have to have that middle blot, you
Speaker 1: have to be both. We have to have both sides.
Speaker 1: You gotta have both. Hello, Hello, Solo. So we had
Speaker 1: the whole discussion. I thought, Church, I thought you was
Speaker 1: gonna say that we need that needed a defense. You
Speaker 1: said the Cowboys need a defense. Not that No that
Speaker 1: that ain't not ain't not ain't what was said. I said,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm said. All all right, we'll take
Speaker 1: a break and we'll come back to this after the break.
Speaker 1: Figure out. Figure out your game playing here, Church, figure
Speaker 1: out your game. Words were mints, Words were mints. Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy has words about Mike Nolan as his defensive coordinator.
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Speaker 1: long time Cowboys reporter, joined by two former Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: safety's Buried Church and Danny mccrim so. Church. Let's recap
Speaker 1: our last segment here. Lets you feel that the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: sure I'm here and is right, they need to take
Speaker 1: this offseason and invest heavily in defense and even if
Speaker 1: it costs you Dak Prescott as your quarterback, because you
Speaker 1: feel instead of paying him forty mi million dollars or more,
Speaker 1: that you could get a bus driver type quarterback and
Speaker 1: win a championship? Am I hearing that correct? What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is logan. I think Dak is phenomenal at the quarterback,
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's worth forty two million dollars
Speaker 1: and wrecking your defense and You're basically going to bring
Speaker 1: the same defense you did last year, and that's what
Speaker 1: it would cost us a lot of these games because
Speaker 1: we weren't able to stop an knee by d So
Speaker 1: if Dak was going for thirty eight, maybe even thirty nine,
Speaker 1: we're giving him the same contract that the Shaun Watson had,
Speaker 1: which was basically thirty nine a year. I'm okay with that,
Speaker 1: But when you get into the forty two, forty threes,
Speaker 1: maybe even forty five millions, I'm not so sure. I'm
Speaker 1: pulling a trigger on that. And I would allow allocate
Speaker 1: those funds to the defensive side of the ball. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Okay, So let me follow this question
Speaker 1: up here. Based on what you said, what team is
Speaker 1: doing it the right way in terms of defensive allocation
Speaker 1: and what they pay their quarterback? Who's doing it the
Speaker 1: right way? A man I would say, I would say
Speaker 1: New England, But they ain't spending money on anybody. So
Speaker 1: for me, I gotta do some research on that one.
Speaker 1: I gotta do some research on that one because it's
Speaker 1: not at the top of my head right now. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I get me back to me on that one. Get
Speaker 1: me about five minutes. I get back to you on
Speaker 1: that one. Okay, Okay, I mean I'll just go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Dan, Now i's gonna say. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: think and you write Church on to one too. I
Speaker 1: agree with you on one. I don't think that is
Speaker 1: getting served up forty five million dollars. That is, that
Speaker 1: is grossly overpaying, especially for the situation that we're in
Speaker 1: forty five million. I think he should be righting around
Speaker 1: what Deshaun Watson is. I see them as equal. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're getting up to forty five, you know, somewhere and there.
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a little bit too
Speaker 1: much for Dak Prescott, especially to have some other pieces
Speaker 1: around the team. So as far as price, I could
Speaker 1: definitely see where you're coming from. So let me ask
Speaker 1: this question. Do you think the Sinks do it correctly
Speaker 1: in terms of the defense and quarterback allocation to Drew Brees?
Speaker 1: What did he just signed a two two for fifth? Yes,
Speaker 1: so Drew Brees right now he's making twenty five a year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees has a cap hit of cap hit of
Speaker 1: twenty three point six million bucks. So right now he's
Speaker 1: taking up eleven point nine percent of the Saints salary
Speaker 1: cap in twenty twenty. That ain't fair. That ain't that.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying I'm saying, I'm saying the compared. I
Speaker 1: don't think the comparison is fair because Tom Brady has
Speaker 1: signed these team friendly deals when they forty years old.
Speaker 1: This is not they first they first go around to
Speaker 1: getting a big contract, something comparable to what quarterbacks were
Speaker 1: getting paid when Drew Brees first got paid, which like now,
Speaker 1: were to be less. But you got to look at
Speaker 1: like what quarterbacks were getting paid around that around that time,
Speaker 1: and then compared, and I believe that it would be
Speaker 1: at the top of the top of whatever everybody else
Speaker 1: was getting right now. I don't think that's fair because
Speaker 1: you have Drew Brees on his way out, so yeah,
Speaker 1: he's taking twenty five. He already made so much money.
Speaker 1: So they're taking these really deal so they can so
Speaker 1: they can let the rest of the team have those
Speaker 1: pieces that Church are talking about. And you're not gonna
Speaker 1: talk back into doing that that first of all, that
Speaker 1: that would be disrespectful for you to ask Dack to
Speaker 1: do that. You got him in the fourth round. You've
Speaker 1: been saying he's gonna pay him for years and then
Speaker 1: now you got him on the franchise tag and he
Speaker 1: don't have a large long term deal. I don't ask
Speaker 1: him to take a Tom Brady or Drew Brees deal.
Speaker 1: Team friendly, Okay, we all cat how far is the
Speaker 1: cap gonna go down? Like that's the other thing we've
Speaker 1: got to think. How far is that cap gonna go
Speaker 1: down heading into this year? It doesn't because here's why
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter Barry, because once they put him on
Speaker 1: the franchise tag, the next year tag was already kicked
Speaker 1: in because I can't remember it's thirty percent anyway, it's
Speaker 1: a certain number that kicks in if you want to
Speaker 1: do another franchise tag again. SOT thirty one million bucks
Speaker 1: this year, and then the next tag according to the
Speaker 1: number that the CBA was signed and the owners and
Speaker 1: the players agreed to, DAK was gonna get it kicked
Speaker 1: into thirty eight million bucks. And then I think the
Speaker 1: next one is a crazy number. Um you know, you know,
Speaker 1: almost you know, almost in the in the maybe forty
Speaker 1: or fifty million, doctor. I mean, it just it just
Speaker 1: increases a lot. So the cow no matter what the
Speaker 1: cap was, the Cowboys are gonna be locked into this deal,
Speaker 1: so and it's made to be that way. So it
Speaker 1: gives you the team an incentive to get the contract done.
Speaker 1: So this is the Cowboys fault. So to me, from
Speaker 1: what from what Danny you're telling me now I'm hearing you,
Speaker 1: is Dak Prescott is going to get a contract comparable
Speaker 1: to his peers, peers being Jared Golf, Carson Wentz who
Speaker 1: were in his same draft, Deshaun Watson, m Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: who came in later drafts, guys around him who signed extensions.
Speaker 1: Is that what I'm hearing. Absolutely not. So that's a fifty,
Speaker 1: not fifty. I'm just saying specifically Deshaun I think he
Speaker 1: gets Deshaun Watson money because he get above with Shahn Watson.
Speaker 1: So we're telling forty one forty two, it's going to
Speaker 1: be forty. It's going to mean it's going to be
Speaker 1: forty million dollars because his cap number that she's basically
Speaker 1: gonna be thirty eight million bucks. So they're gonna look
Speaker 1: at the Sean Way and say, look at the value
Speaker 1: of a Deshaun Watson. We think our players this type
Speaker 1: of value to your team, um, and they're gonna want
Speaker 1: forty million bucks. So I mean and once again we
Speaker 1: we we talked about, hey, the players not worth this.
Speaker 1: So this is what this is what happened. This is
Speaker 1: what managers mess up. It was kind of like the Tank.
Speaker 1: You could have got Tank at sixteen million bucks, but
Speaker 1: they decided they wanted to make him play out the tag,
Speaker 1: and then the tag the next year was eighteen million dollars,
Speaker 1: and then they were starting to say, hey, we'll get
Speaker 1: you eighteen, and Tank said no, twenty. So if Tank
Speaker 1: got him at twenty and his and the franchise numbers eighteen,
Speaker 1: Dack's gonna do the same thing with his age. He's
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So if it's thirty eight, they're gonna get forty.
Speaker 1: And you're just gonna have to and you're gonna eat
Speaker 1: the frog because this is what they always do. They
Speaker 1: always eat the frog. They ate it with Cooper, they
Speaker 1: ate it with Zeke, they ate it with Tag, with Tank,
Speaker 1: they ate it with with Tyrant Smith, they ate it
Speaker 1: with Zach Martin, they ate it with Travis. They're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. This is what they do. They are They're
Speaker 1: gonna eat it. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I think we can all agree like that. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: put themselves in this situation, like you said, knew it.
Speaker 1: This could have been rectified two years ago when when
Speaker 1: Golf and them boys got their job. They could have
Speaker 1: threw whatever they wanted at deck and I'm sure he
Speaker 1: would have signed it. We wouldn't have been in this
Speaker 1: predicament we are right now. But they decided to wait,
Speaker 1: and now it's I mean, they're up against a rock
Speaker 1: in the hard place. I mean, do you do you
Speaker 1: pay the quarterback in and hope you hit on these
Speaker 1: drafts or do you go defensive route. I mean, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, they put themselves in this situation,
Speaker 1: and hey, they're gonna have to deal with it. Stop
Speaker 1: stop digging. I mean, you're in a hole. Just stop digging.
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, that's what it is at this point
Speaker 1: in time. Now you kept digging this hole the quarterback
Speaker 1: and digging and digging. Just drop the shovel. Pay the man,
Speaker 1: because this is something we all know. If the Cowboys
Speaker 1: don't pay him the forty, somebody else will. They're going
Speaker 1: to be easy. They're going to do it so and
Speaker 1: so you might as well just go ahead and do it,
Speaker 1: because you know you know, let's say he signs forty
Speaker 1: million with the Bears and next to you know, they
Speaker 1: win some games. I mean, you're gonna you're gonna catch
Speaker 1: They're gonna catch it. They're gonna catch it. They don't
Speaker 1: want to catch it. And McCarthy wants to coaching. McCarthy
Speaker 1: wants to coaching. Our man Jerry Jones is itching towards
Speaker 1: eighty years old. He doesn't want to start over. So
Speaker 1: just write check and do it as quickly as you
Speaker 1: can write to chat. Just let strike the chat. All right,
Speaker 1: let's squeeze another break exactly, let's squeeze in his break.
Speaker 1: I want to get to Mike Nolan and what defensive
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Speaker 1: headphones ready as I tell you what Mike McCarthy had
Speaker 1: to say about his hand chosen defensive coordinator. He said,
Speaker 1: with asked about his status, he said, quote, that's what
Speaker 1: we're working on. That's what this process is all about.
Speaker 1: That's the short version. So Mike McCarthy not committing that
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan will be his diffensive coordinator next year, but
Speaker 1: saying that they're going through a process, that they're looking
Speaker 1: at things, which I personally I take that as Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to save my guy. I gotta sit around
Speaker 1: here for show Jerry and Stevens some ways where we
Speaker 1: improved and try to keep them back. But I don't see,
Speaker 1: I personally don't see any way they can keep Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan as their defensive coordinator. McCarthy's just gonna had to
Speaker 1: understand when you go six and ten in Jerry world,
Speaker 1: people have to pay, Okay, you just don't get to
Speaker 1: come back every everybody just don't get to come on back.
Speaker 1: You got to pay, And so that's the thing he's
Speaker 1: got to understand. Realheady Mack, Yeah, I don't think he knows.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's one of those situations to where
Speaker 1: he wasn't in the room when they were talking about
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, Like I have heard youthing about that. I
Speaker 1: think I think Jerry, Jerry and Stephen are trying to
Speaker 1: figure it out, trying to find out who's available and
Speaker 1: who they want to get, and hopefully they find it
Speaker 1: out soon. So this doesn't linger on too much because,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's something in me that believes that
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan has a real strong possibility of coming back
Speaker 1: just because all the stuff that they faced this season
Speaker 1: or no off season in COVID. But I don't think
Speaker 1: that that that he should survive this and I think
Speaker 1: that he should be out and they find another guy
Speaker 1: who's able to maximize the potential of the players that
Speaker 1: we currently have on the roster. Yeah, to me, I
Speaker 1: don't understand what the process is all about. Man, I
Speaker 1: think he should have been gone on Black Friday with
Speaker 1: the rest of those coaches that were dismissed. But to me,
Speaker 1: I just don't understand. I just don't. He was a
Speaker 1: part of one of the historically worst defenses in the
Speaker 1: National Football League this year. I mean, teams were able
Speaker 1: to run the ball up and down the field on
Speaker 1: our defense, and it wasn't until the last four games
Speaker 1: of the year that we started taking the ball away
Speaker 1: with any type of regularity. So for me, I think
Speaker 1: he was a part of the problem. He was probably
Speaker 1: the main problem, and I think he needs to go
Speaker 1: ahead and go. But you're right, new you. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if if McCarthy's trying to save you know, his boy,
Speaker 1: his boy's job, or if he's trying to save his
Speaker 1: friendship with Noland. You know what I'm saying, I don't
Speaker 1: want to He's wanting to Nolan saying, hey, man, look
Speaker 1: I tried to fight for you. I tried to fight
Speaker 1: for you. I went in there, I went to bat
Speaker 1: for you and me it just didn't work out that way.
Speaker 1: Knowing all the way on the back of his mind,
Speaker 1: he's like, man, look, we need to get this guy
Speaker 1: up out of here. Man, But you know, he's my boy,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to do him like that, So
Speaker 1: let me get his best opportunity to speak to Jerry
Speaker 1: and see if we can prolong this thing a little bit.
Speaker 1: But in the back of his mind he probably already
Speaker 1: knows Mike's Mike is on his way out. When I
Speaker 1: see Mike McCarthy talk like that, I kind of laughed
Speaker 1: because he goes vague like that. One of the things
Speaker 1: being a reporter is I've started to learn to listen
Speaker 1: to what people don't say. That was how I used
Speaker 1: to read Jason Garrett. Listen to what he didn't say
Speaker 1: about a player. You know, if he talked about a
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott or Zach Whar, He's like, this is a
Speaker 1: guy does everything the right way, really loves football. I
Speaker 1: mean he would throw a fusive praise on it. Then
Speaker 1: when he talked about Taco Charlton never heard any of that.
Speaker 1: That was how I could decode how Jason felt about
Speaker 1: a guy. And I go back to this to say,
Speaker 1: when Steven Jones and you listen to Steven's radio interviews,
Speaker 1: when Steven Jones came out and said, hey, there's some
Speaker 1: guys who were on that defense last year who really
Speaker 1: played better and they're not playing well this year, and
Speaker 1: I took that as him saying, hey, it's not that
Speaker 1: our guys far players stink. It's not that we don't
Speaker 1: know personnel at all. Our personnel is not any good.
Speaker 1: These were guys last year we are getting it done
Speaker 1: in the defense. We didn't think it was good enough.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden they stink. I'm not buying that,
Speaker 1: And that, to me is where a guy like Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan is gonna end up having to fall on the
Speaker 1: sword because you don't have a guy like Steven Jones
Speaker 1: who's in your corner. And we all know Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: has major say in this organization. But I don't know
Speaker 1: how they can sit around here and just try to
Speaker 1: go off these last four games and say, hey, look
Speaker 1: we're a better football team. I thought the Giant game
Speaker 1: was just one more reason why Mike Nolan should go.
Speaker 1: You had something to play for. You're playing against a
Speaker 1: team that was challenged offensively to score twenty points the
Speaker 1: last ten weeks of the season, and they scored twenty.
Speaker 1: They put up twenty points in the first half. He's
Speaker 1: just not the guy as if you're Mike mccarthur, you
Speaker 1: can simply say this man, you're my friend. And I
Speaker 1: tried I gave you a shot. I let you run
Speaker 1: this thing. I ran over here with Kellen. I was
Speaker 1: sitting here deal with offense. I let you had a
Speaker 1: whole lab to yourself, and this is what you did.
Speaker 1: You blew up the lab, so you got to go.
Speaker 1: You're still my boy. I still got love for y'all.
Speaker 1: Call around and maybe get a position coach somewhere, because
Speaker 1: you guys know, dudes like Mike Nolan stick around forever.
Speaker 1: Somebody will hire him as a position coach, so he'll
Speaker 1: go there, but he can't coordinate this defense. And if
Speaker 1: you're going to get the best years out of Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott and get your return on investment in Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: and Tyrn Smith and all these guys, then you got
Speaker 1: to start with a defensive change. This is not a
Speaker 1: man who needs to come back here. And personally, I
Speaker 1: don't know if the Joneses are sold on just trying
Speaker 1: to go to a three four defense because in the past,
Speaker 1: and I've been here in the past, and they've talked
Speaker 1: about how there were too many changes in personnel that
Speaker 1: they had to make and that it took you basically
Speaker 1: almost two years in their opinion, to flip the defense around.
Speaker 1: So I don't see them doing this three four deal.
Speaker 1: I believe it's going to be a four three. They'll
Speaker 1: bring in somebody, you know, it could be George Edwards. Okay,
Speaker 1: George Edwards is already in the building seeing what these
Speaker 1: guys can do. He worked with Mike Zimmer. They love
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer. Okay, the Jones family loves Mike Zimmer. George
Speaker 1: was right there with him, and until this season when
Speaker 1: George was gone, the Vikings defense was pretty good. It
Speaker 1: was pretty good under Mike Zimmer. So to me, you
Speaker 1: already have a guy who's in the building, understands a
Speaker 1: personnel can possibly make the right changes that you need
Speaker 1: to and you go on from there. That's right now,
Speaker 1: that's the easiest solution, in my opinion, a proving guy
Speaker 1: in the league. Georgia, hold on, hold on now, because listen,
Speaker 1: old uncle Wade, I said your tweet. Uncle Wade said,
Speaker 1: if you want to change from four to three two
Speaker 1: three four, he can get it done, all right. And
Speaker 1: he puts some some stats down there and he lets
Speaker 1: you know that. He changes the Texas and the Rams
Speaker 1: and the Broncos, and they all changed from losing teams
Speaker 1: to winning teams. He got that stuff done, so it
Speaker 1: can be done. Let me tell you this about Mike Nolan,
Speaker 1: all right, because we want to talk about personnel and uh,
Speaker 1: you know how, and he may have this different person
Speaker 1: there and bring some more guys in and all this
Speaker 1: other stuff. The truth of the matter is, in all likelihood,
Speaker 1: it's about two positions on the defense that he's going
Speaker 1: to be able to upgrade at the position the safety
Speaker 1: and possibly the corner. You got two draft picks, a
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. You got Randy Gregory, you got Take Lawrence.
Speaker 1: On the other side, you have your two linebackers who
Speaker 1: are going to be here next year. You got Lvee
Speaker 1: and you got Jayala Smith. So it's not like you're
Speaker 1: going to go in and be able to revamp everything.
Speaker 1: He's going to be playing with essentially eighty to eighty
Speaker 1: five percent of the same guys that he had this year.
Speaker 1: So the personnel change and all that stuff, and this
Speaker 1: is what's gonna fix fix Mike Nolan and all that
Speaker 1: that's not flying. The likelihood is you bring somebody else
Speaker 1: in here that can work with the talent that you
Speaker 1: already have and then upgrade what they can do based
Speaker 1: off what you're able to pick up in the drafting
Speaker 1: free agency. Mike Nolan cannot get it done. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to argue with you on that at all. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to argue with that at all. I just
Speaker 1: think that you tried it and you gotta go ahead
Speaker 1: and move on, move on from it. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you talk about the linebackers, Mike Nolan was the guy
Speaker 1: who said put Laton Vanderesh in the middle and throw
Speaker 1: Jalen Spent to the outside. I don't think any of
Speaker 1: us on this show like that move. I think they
Speaker 1: should flip flop that as soon as possible. I mean,
Speaker 1: when we saw Banderesh making plays, it was on the outside.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to see. Um, he's just gotta go.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's about Botoline question you gotta go? Yeah,
Speaker 1: quick question was no is the secondaries coach and like
Speaker 1: those those assistant coach of those guys that are under
Speaker 1: Nolan or McCarthy brought those guys in as well. I
Speaker 1: think it's a combination where you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: that McCarthy brought in anybody Nolan wasn't comfortable with. But
Speaker 1: that's that's my thing too. It's whoever to me, whoever
Speaker 1: the coordinator is is it should have the right to
Speaker 1: try to bring in some position of guys that he
Speaker 1: wants who understand what he wants to do. If if
Speaker 1: they all talked about and Mike McCarthy had no problems
Speaker 1: talking about this all the time as the defenses, Hey,
Speaker 1: it was coaching with dudes he had coach with before.
Speaker 1: So if you let's say you bring in George Edwards,
Speaker 1: if you bring in George Edwards, should George Jetwards be
Speaker 1: allowed to bring in a dB coach and a D
Speaker 1: line coach, a linebacker coach to people that he has
Speaker 1: some familiarity with who can help him implement the defense
Speaker 1: the way he wants. So I think that it's gonna
Speaker 1: be to me. I think it's sweeping changes on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the football. It's not just Mike Nolan,
Speaker 1: Jim Thompson. Look at get got dB coach, linebacker coach.
Speaker 1: I mean, all these people can get gout and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have any issues with it at all. Jerry's going
Speaker 1: to write a check for it, but but I don't
Speaker 1: have any issues with them rolling through these dudes. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the price of business people have to pack
Speaker 1: six and ten. I told you six and ten. Everybody
Speaker 1: doesn't get to come back, okay, you know everybody can't
Speaker 1: be like Kellen Moore, get a contract at Sension and
Speaker 1: live on. I mean, some people want to go ahead
Speaker 1: and die. You know, some people are gonna have to
Speaker 1: die for six and ten and that's just just the
Speaker 1: way it is. One of the things I want to
Speaker 1: talk about here on the players lounges is the offensive
Speaker 1: line and m cray, I heard you talk about wanting
Speaker 1: a left tackle at ten. First off, the best left
Speaker 1: tackle is probably going to be gone at three or four,
Speaker 1: the kid from Oregon. So I'm not sure who's left
Speaker 1: at left tackle at ten. But to me, when I
Speaker 1: look at the kind of money they've invested in Tyring
Speaker 1: and invested in Lel Collins at the tackle positions, those
Speaker 1: guys are going to be there, but we do know
Speaker 1: they'll miss games. If I'm starting my offensive line next fall,
Speaker 1: my sinner is Tyler Bias, second year man from Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping Tyre Sin's my left tackle. I'm going to
Speaker 1: put Connor McGovern at left guard, replacing Connor Williams. I'm
Speaker 1: going to put Zack Martin at right tackle. I'm going
Speaker 1: to put Lyle Collins. I mean, put Zack Martin at
Speaker 1: right guard and put Collins at right tackle, and Connor
Speaker 1: Williams is going to become my swing tackle because I'm
Speaker 1: going to be He's gonna be in the he'll be
Speaker 1: in the final year of his deal. Too many times
Speaker 1: I feel like Connor Williams has gotten overmatched to guard.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a guard. I think he's tackle.
Speaker 1: The National Football League. I want to see him there,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna spend that last year with Carter Williams
Speaker 1: out there now. And you talk about drafting the tackle
Speaker 1: later on in the draft. I'm all four. I don't
Speaker 1: have any issue with it. I don't. But at ten
Speaker 1: I cannot. I cannot take a tackle at ten who
Speaker 1: possibly doesn't start. I need a walk in starter at
Speaker 1: ten in the first round, and that's got a most
Speaker 1: and that's got to be a defensive player. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: that's just me, but that's my take. The offensive line
Speaker 1: listen minus is virtually the same. I got my Governor
Speaker 1: left guard, YadA center, Martin, right guard, Collins, right tackle.
Speaker 1: I do not listen. I do not believe that Connor
Speaker 1: Williams has enough anchor to play guard our tackle. Like
Speaker 1: I've never actually looked at the offensive line play as
Speaker 1: much as I have this year since we started talking
Speaker 1: about it on the show, and I'm talking about repeated league.
Speaker 1: If you have a guy with any strength and any
Speaker 1: type of bull rush, Connor Williams cannot handle it. And
Speaker 1: I don't think he wants to be out there at
Speaker 1: tackle facing guys who knows one hundred percent that they
Speaker 1: can just push him back into the quarterback. I don't
Speaker 1: trust them being out there at left tackle. And like
Speaker 1: you said, Tyren Smith's going him this time. So Connor
Speaker 1: Williams is going to be starting a few games, and
Speaker 1: you don't want to be out there word about how
Speaker 1: many how many guys are focusing on Connor Williams getting
Speaker 1: bull rushing into Dak Prescott throughout the game. So that's
Speaker 1: why I want to focus on the left tackle. Now.
Speaker 1: If a left tackle that you believe in it's sitting
Speaker 1: there at number ten, then I believe that you gotta
Speaker 1: take them. That's just that's just where I go with it.
Speaker 1: You have some guys on defense that we said are
Speaker 1: ascending as far as being able to show some some potential.
Speaker 1: So I'm still stuck at protecting Dak Prescott. Say, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna sign him to a four or five year deal,
Speaker 1: make sure that he has the offensive line and uh,
Speaker 1: and get you a left tackle. Wait, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna sign back to that big deal and then
Speaker 1: and then take your first rounder on somebody who might
Speaker 1: not be able to be in there there to stop
Speaker 1: I'm put no, no, no, no no. That's why I said,
Speaker 1: if you have somebody that you would leave in that
Speaker 1: sitting at number ten, since we already missed up our
Speaker 1: draft order, Like if they would have done with me
Speaker 1: and now he said a long time ago, you would
Speaker 1: have been up there picking earlier, and you possibly had
Speaker 1: a guy that you could depend on being a starter
Speaker 1: on day one, Like just like cde loumb fell to
Speaker 1: you last season and you had to pick them. If
Speaker 1: your left tackle falls to you at number ten in
Speaker 1: the draft, I believe that you have to take them.
Speaker 1: You invest all this money in Dak Prescott, so you
Speaker 1: need to protect them and have some guys that are
Speaker 1: dependable out there and go back to that game plan
Speaker 1: that you had previously. Control the clock, make people figure
Speaker 1: your offensive line and control the line of scrimmage, and
Speaker 1: then play defense fifteen minutes out of the game and
Speaker 1: take the ball away because everybody's playing from behind. I
Speaker 1: think that's a recipe for us for winning. For what
Speaker 1: we have currently on the roster. You think that defense
Speaker 1: when we got currently on the on the roster right now,
Speaker 1: I can do that. No, listen, you're just trying to
Speaker 1: win the shootouts. You're trying to win shoot out to that. No, no, no, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: Already I already spoke to this. The guys that we
Speaker 1: have on the defense, most of them are still going
Speaker 1: to be here on the roster next year, and we
Speaker 1: talked about changing out some guys in the secondary. We
Speaker 1: talked about changing out essentially two guys, the safety and
Speaker 1: one of the corners. We still got a b and
Speaker 1: we got digs who are going to be starting as
Speaker 1: the number two, a number three corner on the roster.
Speaker 1: Were talked about going to get the safety. Our linebackers
Speaker 1: are already putting much Centenstone and our defensive line. For
Speaker 1: the most part, besides one day y'all talking about drafting
Speaker 1: in the first round, it's pretty much senten Stone, we
Speaker 1: got the two outside guys. We got another Gallimore who
Speaker 1: we drafted, and you got Tristan Hill. I'm sure I'm
Speaker 1: not here. He ain't going nowhere. Sure, watch the film,
Speaker 1: Watch the take. Wat's the take? Listen. Sorry, I can't
Speaker 1: sit around here and look at this Cowboys defense and
Speaker 1: think that with a potential tenth overall pick in the
Speaker 1: draft to use it on offense and somebody that's not
Speaker 1: in a walking starter, I can't. I can't see it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. And also, I go back to
Speaker 1: what we've talked about before. If you signed Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: what do you need you need to start to bring
Speaker 1: in cost certainty on players you use a defensive selection.
Speaker 1: That's five years you have with a player versus getting
Speaker 1: them at four years in every other round. So that
Speaker 1: to me makes it even more imperative than I need
Speaker 1: a defensive guy who I can have here for five years,
Speaker 1: and I need to try to hit on a blue
Speaker 1: chip defensive player versus a offensive lineman who's going to
Speaker 1: potentially sit on the bench. That doesn't make sense. Guys
Speaker 1: in a financial, a salary cap world, that just doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense. What we're talking about sitting on the bench. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, and don't forget about Taco. Charleston already
Speaker 1: talking about five years. All right, So let's not act
Speaker 1: like just because you draft a defensive player in the
Speaker 1: first round, are they gonna be here that long? And
Speaker 1: I'm pass when you pass on the better player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but but but but we did and
Speaker 1: and Taco was not here for five years. But remember
Speaker 1: I'm speaking of, is if we do not have Tyren
Speaker 1: Smith on the roster, this is my position, not draft
Speaker 1: a guy to be behind Tyrann Smith and sit on
Speaker 1: the bench. I'm speaking of we don't have Tyren Smith
Speaker 1: on the roster, and our and our left tackle is
Speaker 1: the guy who is going to come replace him. That
Speaker 1: is what I was talking about during the season, and
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about now, not a guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We're not gonna draft a gud number ten to come
Speaker 1: sit behind Tyren Smith. That would make no sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got Tyre Smith on the roster, go defense. So
Speaker 1: all right, So I'll give you a name that I've
Speaker 1: seen at ten by certain people, Rashawn Slater off to
Speaker 1: tackle Northwestern. So if you take Slater at ten, where
Speaker 1: are you putting him at to start the season. It's
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith on the roster, Yes, well you don't take
Speaker 1: you don't take him at ten. My whole, my whole
Speaker 1: game plan was not to remember we had this discussion
Speaker 1: during the season who should be on the roster who shouldn't.
Speaker 1: I was adamant about Tyren Smith is not going to
Speaker 1: be able to be dependable. If you can move him
Speaker 1: or release him, get rid of especially if it could
Speaker 1: save you some money and get you a new offensive
Speaker 1: tackle who's going to be dependable out there, not Carnel Williams.
Speaker 1: That is what I said. And if you're able to
Speaker 1: do that, I still believe that if Tyre Smith is
Speaker 1: on the roster, knew your church, we ain't taking the
Speaker 1: tackle at number ten. We're going defense like, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not going to stack him the position if Tyren Smith
Speaker 1: is still out there. So just to clarify, just to
Speaker 1: clarify things, if you were the GM, in your opinion,
Speaker 1: you would either release or try to find a trade
Speaker 1: partner for iron Smith. Absolutely, if I can find something
Speaker 1: that worked, if I could, if I could find something
Speaker 1: that worked for me, absolutely, and listen, bad back, bad neck,
Speaker 1: bad knees is next he has, he ain't been able
Speaker 1: to play out there. There's not nothing against the guy,
Speaker 1: how hard he works or how good he is at
Speaker 1: the position. We're talking about straight health, some stuff that
Speaker 1: he can't even control. He can lift as much as
Speaker 1: he wants to, he could do as much rehab as
Speaker 1: he wants to, and he's still not been able to
Speaker 1: be available. And that's just that. That's the fact. You
Speaker 1: can go back and see. And when he's not out there,
Speaker 1: our offensive line is in limbo. You have major major
Speaker 1: issues when Tyron Smith is not playing in the game. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'll just throw your dead cap money out here. Okay,
Speaker 1: the dead cap hit for Tyron Smith in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one is eight point eight million dollars. So that's that's
Speaker 1: the that's the dead cap hit. His overall cap hit
Speaker 1: is fourteen million bucks, so too much, um so that
Speaker 1: that's it. If he if he plays for you, it's
Speaker 1: fourteen million bucks for to pay the thirty year old.
Speaker 1: If you want to move on from him, it's gonna
Speaker 1: cost you eight point eight million bucks, which means you're
Speaker 1: gonna basically split it up. But a post June June
Speaker 1: one cut pay four million. This year and then pay
Speaker 1: four million against your cap next year. That's what it's
Speaker 1: going to be. How much how much of a customer
Speaker 1: this year? How much a customers year? When he was
Speaker 1: on the field. His salary cap hit this year was
Speaker 1: six point four million dollars because they restructured five point
Speaker 1: three the Cowboys came. How many games that deals? Thank you?
Speaker 1: How many games that he plays six so so so
Speaker 1: so so. The point is, the point is, if he's
Speaker 1: not able to be on the field, why are we
Speaker 1: talking about cap hits. You're paying the guy not to
Speaker 1: even be out there, and you have to worry about
Speaker 1: him not being out there for the foreseeable future because
Speaker 1: he's been subject to injury for the last few years.
Speaker 1: So you can say, hey, eight million dollars cap hit,
Speaker 1: but a dude sitting on the sideline get paid fourteen
Speaker 1: million dollars. You're losing. It's a loss just because you're
Speaker 1: trying to say some cape. Okay, what I will Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: I'll go back into what I've seen from the Jones
Speaker 1: family and how they operated for years. Flozell Adams was
Speaker 1: a guy who had issues, and they kept rolling with
Speaker 1: the issues until finally Flozell couldn't go anymore, and they
Speaker 1: ended up bringing drafting Tyrant Smith at number nine. If
Speaker 1: you were going to move off from Tyrn Smith, I
Speaker 1: think it'll be in the twenty after twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. It's a lot more manageable for
Speaker 1: you to go ahead and do it. But I don't
Speaker 1: see the Jones is moving off from Tyrn Smith. I
Speaker 1: just don't. That's that's just And I understand, Danny, You're right,
Speaker 1: backs do not get better. Is it something you look
Speaker 1: at it ten? Is it something you look at it ten?
Speaker 1: With the kid from Northwestern? Which lot? I mean, there
Speaker 1: are certain people who are saying do this, Danny. You're
Speaker 1: not alone, Okay, make sure to say, Danny, Danny mccraie
Speaker 1: is not crazy here. There are a lot of people.
Speaker 1: This is what should be done here. Okay. So so
Speaker 1: it's not some crazy idea. I've saw the great Ozzy
Speaker 1: Newsom do this. In Baltimore, where he selected Jonathan Ogden
Speaker 1: number four overall, he still had big Zeus Orlando Brown
Speaker 1: out there at left tackle. He put John to Ogden
Speaker 1: at guard and eventually the next season pushed him out
Speaker 1: to left tackle. He had a Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1: So Danny, what you're saying is not something that hasn't
Speaker 1: been done. But at the same time, Ozzy didn't have
Speaker 1: a horrible defense like the Dallas Cowboys, and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have a horrible, horrible defense here that at this point
Speaker 1: in time, if you commit these dollars to the left tackle,
Speaker 1: you're saying, McCarthy, I need you to score thirty eight
Speaker 1: a game, and then we're just gonna try and win
Speaker 1: these games. Thirty eight thirty six. I don't know that
Speaker 1: that's kind of much. One. My math is just a
Speaker 1: little different. Pay you pay him fourteen. If he on
Speaker 1: the roster, you lose eight if he's not. If you're
Speaker 1: not on the roster, you're saving six. You're picking the
Speaker 1: dude in the draft, and you're going to spend that
Speaker 1: money somewhere else for a guy who might not even
Speaker 1: be on the field for the entire season. If I'm
Speaker 1: doing my math right, I'm not paying a D fourteen
Speaker 1: when I can get rid of them for eight and
Speaker 1: put that other six somewhere. If I can't depend on
Speaker 1: him to be on the field for the entire season.
Speaker 1: That that's that's just the way my math is working out,
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, we'll see how it happens. But
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm not the Jones because I would have
Speaker 1: also paid that two years ago, so you know, we'll
Speaker 1: see how this goes. I mean that's when I used
Speaker 1: to work. But I used to do sports radio. I
Speaker 1: used to talk about how this these are the things.
Speaker 1: There's thoughts on what we would do, but then it's
Speaker 1: what the what the Jones family will do? You know,
Speaker 1: I would have you know, there are so many different
Speaker 1: things out well I would have done this, but but
Speaker 1: I'm not the Joneses. And that's you know, where they're
Speaker 1: comfortable at. I mean, personally, one of the big problems
Speaker 1: that that I have is the restructuring, consistent restructuring they do,
Speaker 1: because the more you reach tructure these contracts means you
Speaker 1: push it down the line, and you keep pushing it
Speaker 1: down the line, and then you're just like, well, we'll
Speaker 1: pay it here at some point in time. So when
Speaker 1: they cut Dez Bryant, all that money hit right there.
Speaker 1: When they had to cut Tony Room, all that money hit.
Speaker 1: You know, if you stop doing a restructure and just
Speaker 1: all right, boom, we're gonna lock in here, We're just
Speaker 1: gonna pay this money, and so when it comes down
Speaker 1: to let the guy go, you can say, hey, look
Speaker 1: we've paid all the bonus money. We're good. We can
Speaker 1: let the guy go. We don't have a major cap hit.
Speaker 1: These are issues. They still got to pay off the
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick money on this year's salary cap because they
Speaker 1: broke it up over two years. So it does make
Speaker 1: it harder to say goodbye to people. And look, what's
Speaker 1: the one thing we've constantly seen with Jerry Jones as
Speaker 1: an owner. He likes to keep guys around. And you
Speaker 1: can say guys have stayed here probably a year or
Speaker 1: two years longer than they needed to be. I can
Speaker 1: say it about Flozell, I can say it about Jason Witten.
Speaker 1: I can say it right now about Sean Lee. Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: They're guys who end up you're like, oh this Tyrone Crawford.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're guys here when you look at it
Speaker 1: and say, man, should dude have been going about a
Speaker 1: year ago and two years in New England, Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: would have got rid of them. Here, they get to
Speaker 1: stay around, and they stay around one or two years
Speaker 1: too long. So Danny, this may be a case with
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith ends up being one of those guys that
Speaker 1: you end up keeping them maybe a year too long.
Speaker 1: And you could be right at the end of the
Speaker 1: seat that the twenty twenty one season, we could be said.
Speaker 1: You know what, Danny, you were right. You tried to
Speaker 1: tell us I couldn't be wrong, so I couldn't be wrong.
Speaker 1: He plays the entire season, I was wrong. If he
Speaker 1: plays the whole season, I'm wrong. I'm just going based
Speaker 1: off what happened in the last two years. I just
Speaker 1: have born, Yeahyborn in Atlanta Founder's game. I'm still seeing it.
Speaker 1: I'm still seeing Clay Born in Atlanti Founder's game. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing I'm seeing the destruction that was called when Tyren
Speaker 1: Smith wasn't able to play, and I'm seeing the destruction
Speaker 1: of the offensive line this year when we missed ELC
Speaker 1: and Tyren Smith again this season. Now, based on what
Speaker 1: you said, and this is me, Okay, if you want
Speaker 1: to go offensive line, then you need to sign Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott so you have available money and free agency and
Speaker 1: you can start to meet some of these defensive meets
Speaker 1: and you're making a different the coordinator change. I mean,
Speaker 1: all of this happened. I mean so much, because I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you just can't sit up here and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna draft this left tackle and we we only
Speaker 1: go do a one year franchise deal with Dak and
Speaker 1: then Dak going I mean this, you know if this
Speaker 1: church right what I'm here right now, Manna Prescott, forty
Speaker 1: two mill We're gonna use our first round pick on
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle? What what we acted like we got
Speaker 1: the eighty five Bears or the two thousand Ravens over
Speaker 1: there on the defensive side of the ball. Whenever, because
Speaker 1: he saved six some church save sixty. You saved six
Speaker 1: million dollars Church Church talking about by releasing Church, by
Speaker 1: releasing by releasing Tyres Smith, who you was gonna pay
Speaker 1: eight or fourteen, you're saying six because now your dead
Speaker 1: cap is eight, so you got six million dollars. You're
Speaker 1: picking the tackle in the first round. So then you go,
Speaker 1: you're saving some money right there, like he wanted to
Speaker 1: to get you somebody on defense versus pandi du fourteen
Speaker 1: million dollars and not having no money because you're still
Speaker 1: gonna pay Dad. I'm just saying, you saved me bread.
Speaker 1: You're talking about you want some we ain't paying back
Speaker 1: forty two, y'all, saint forty y'all putting a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on Will pressure. That's not me, y'all, that's not me.
Speaker 1: If that's him, this this tackle that we draft is
Speaker 1: gonna be he might. What if he's a bust? Then
Speaker 1: what all the fan? Man? That's all I'm to come
Speaker 1: home Church. At the beginning of the show, you said,
Speaker 1: you said, we can go out there with Andy Donalton
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show and fix up the defense.
Speaker 1: So I don't know he has he's calling the pistol.
Speaker 1: The last week of the season. You're saying you want
Speaker 1: to take us nickname you said, you can't believe you
Speaker 1: call him for. We gotta get out of here. We
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. So let's let's end this
Speaker 1: with these picks here, Okay, So let we go run
Speaker 1: through these pics real quick, because it got a bunch
Speaker 1: of games to get to Alabama eight point for against
Speaker 1: Ohio State the National Championship game. D mack who you
Speaker 1: got Alabama's school, Alabama and they don't cover. They went
Speaker 1: by by four. So I'm gonna go something like thirty five,
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty one Ohio State, Ohio State thirty five,
Speaker 1: Ohio State thirty five, Alabama twenty eight, alright, fighting justin Fields, Baby,
Speaker 1: give me h Alabama forty one, Ohio State thirty one.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, Indie Buffalo, Buffalo six point favorite. D MAC.
Speaker 1: I got Buffalo covering. I'm going thirty one twenty one.
Speaker 1: M I got a old man, Philip Rivers. I got
Speaker 1: old man Rivers is pulling an upset. I got Indie
Speaker 1: thirty one, Buffalo twenty four, thirty one, twenty four, give
Speaker 1: me Buffalo thirty two seventeen, all right, Rams three point
Speaker 1: dog against Seattle. It's in Seattle, d Mac. I got
Speaker 1: Seattle covering. I don't have any faith in Jared Golf,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to go thirty one to seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta I got Seattle on this one. Twenty four, fourteen,
Speaker 1: twenty four fourteen Seattle four church, all right, give me
Speaker 1: Seattle winning this bad boy here thirty four thirteen, all right,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay eight point favorite at Washington, d Mac easy,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady terrific Tom, and I got him winning by
Speaker 1: a close margin, though, because that defense is gonna show up.
Speaker 1: I got him winning twenty seven I mean twenty one seventeen. Nah,
Speaker 1: not be man. I got Uncle Tom and the Boys
Speaker 1: winning thirty eight fourteen. I think it's gonna be a blowout.
Speaker 1: Thirty eight fourteen. All right, we're all going to Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay here. Give me Tampa Bay to win it. Twenty
Speaker 1: four two sixteen, all right. Baltimore at Tennessee. Baltimore three
Speaker 1: point favorites. Yes, Lamar Jackson finally gets that dub and
Speaker 1: they're going to win forty five to thirty eight, high
Speaker 1: score game. Derrick Henry still going for two hundred good time.
Speaker 1: Ain't no defense in that game. Okay. I got I
Speaker 1: got I got, I got Lamar getting the monkey office back. Man,
Speaker 1: he finally beat in Tennessee. I got him. I got
Speaker 1: him twenty four, I got a twenty four to seventeen.
Speaker 1: All right, give me Baltimore to win a twenty seven
Speaker 1: twenty one game. Chicago ten point dog at New Orleans
Speaker 1: d mac yep, New Orleans covers. I'm going thirty one
Speaker 1: to ten, Yeah, Drew. Drew's a little bit too much
Speaker 1: for Chicago, I think. And it's not And it's not
Speaker 1: in Chicago, it's in New Orleans. So I'm going thirty
Speaker 1: five seventeen, New Orleans. All right, give me Saints win
Speaker 1: this one. Forty one thirteen Cleveland Pittsburgh. Cleveland's head coach
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski not coaching in this game because of COVID
Speaker 1: Brown's had practice this week. Baker Mayfield said, won't have
Speaker 1: any differences. It won't make a difference at all this
Speaker 1: football game. D mat, Yeah, I got Pittsburgh twenty four
Speaker 1: twenty one. Yeah, No, No, Stefanski on the sidelines. I
Speaker 1: don't I just don't see it. I mean, they made it.
Speaker 1: The Steelers made it close with Mason Rudolph in there
Speaker 1: last week. So for me, I think the Stellers go
Speaker 1: ahead and get this one done. I'm saying thirty one seventeen,
Speaker 1: there we go. Yeah, give me Pittsburgh to win this one. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go twenty seven to twenty seven fourteen and
Speaker 1: actually you know I'm gonna make us twenty seven twenty one,
Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty one Steelers ended up getting this one.
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