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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I'm lokind of stuff

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Speaker 1: I ever told your production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Ah, And for this Monday many we are dating this

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Speaker 2: one because when it comes to reproductive rights in the

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Speaker 2: US right now, it is ever changing. So today it

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Speaker 2: is October ninth, twenty twenty five, and it's being released

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Speaker 2: on the following Monday. So changes may have happened between

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Speaker 2: this recording to it being released to wouldn't you actually

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Speaker 2: listen to it? There? Don't doing anything's happening so content warning, abortion,

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Speaker 2: reproductive rights, and mention of rape. All right, so we're

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Speaker 2: talking about what is happening in South Carolina in regards

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Speaker 2: to reproductive rights and why we are even more concerned

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Speaker 2: than usual. I mean, we are in a constant state

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Speaker 2: of concern, but you know still so as of today,

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Speaker 2: South Carolina has presented Senate Bill three twenty three, which

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Speaker 2: would bring one of the harshest, most restrictive abortion bands

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Speaker 2: in the country. Surprise gets worse, I know. And in fact,

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Speaker 2: abortion could be qualified as a homicide for people who

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Speaker 2: are pregnant or who were accused and convicted of abortion.

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Speaker 2: Also to note, they are using the title unborn child

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Speaker 2: Protection acts. Yes, the terminology is a ploy to trick

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Speaker 2: the pro birthers and anybody else on the fence into

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Speaker 2: believing they are doing something moral and righteous. This is

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Speaker 2: a tactic we know, We've known for a long time.

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Speaker 2: So about the bill, The bill was first introduced in

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Speaker 2: February of twenty twenty five by Representative Cash I believe

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Speaker 2: this name, and was just brought forward on October first

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Speaker 2: of this year for discussion. During the hearing and discussion,

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Speaker 2: they listened to eight hours of testimony with around eighty

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Speaker 2: people arguing about the bill, but no vote was cast

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Speaker 2: at the time, and the bill is currently active and

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Speaker 2: still under consideration. The committee in the diceession saying the

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Speaker 2: bill needs to be worked on a bit more before

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Speaker 2: the vote is made. So you should note many of

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Speaker 2: the pro reproductive rights people have said that people that

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Speaker 2: wanted to testify were not allowed to They were not

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Speaker 2: should have ended. Essentially, eight hours was not enough. I

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Speaker 2: agree with this life changing type of bill, but hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, so, what is the current abortion policy in

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Speaker 2: South Carolina. Currently it's legal, but very restricted, much like Georgia. Again,

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Speaker 2: South Carolina actually has one of the most restrictive abortion

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Speaker 2: bans and laws in place, much like Georgia, by the Way,

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Speaker 2: and many other places. From neurologyadvisor dot com, they write,

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Speaker 2: South Carolina's abortion legislation as it stands today, considers determination

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Speaker 2: of a pregnancy illegal sure a fetal heartbeat is detected,

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Speaker 2: oftentimes occurring before the pregnancy becomes known at around six

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Speaker 2: weeks of gestation. State Governor Henry McMasters signed the Fetal

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Speaker 2: Heartbeat and Protection from Abortion Act into law on May

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Speaker 2: twenty third, twenty twenty three. South Carolina is among the

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Speaker 2: eighteen states that uphold some of the most restrictive abortion laws,

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Speaker 2: either as bands within the first eighteen weeks of pregnancy

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Speaker 2: or complete bands. The state allows abortions post heartbeat detection

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Speaker 2: in certain cases, including rape or incests. However, the gestational

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Speaker 2: age must be under thirteen weeks and the performing physician

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Speaker 2: is required to report the crime to law enforcement within

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Speaker 2: twenty four hours of the procedure. We talked about it before.

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Speaker 2: This is really bad. We know we can't triss law enforcements,

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Speaker 2: with all of that, what does the new bill do?

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Speaker 2: And there's many a listing, so I took from several

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Speaker 2: But number one, it wouldn't allow for exceptions outside of

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Speaker 2: severe medical emergency during time of pregnancy. And though most

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Speaker 2: people who have been following the laws and policy since

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Speaker 2: the overturning of Roe v. Wade know this, I want

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Speaker 2: even for that, allowing for the death of women for

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Speaker 2: the sake of a fetus, even making them incubators after death.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you're wondering about what happened in

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Speaker 2: Number Two, it allows for charging people who have an

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Speaker 2: This also includes doctors and healthcare professionals. Fyi, it restricts

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Speaker 2: Autlaws medication used for abortion and in some cases classifies

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be. And of course propaganda videos titled meet Baby

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Speaker 2: Olivia that this one's already created and produced would be

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Speaker 2: required to be shown in public schools. Also, it allows

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Speaker 2: consider to have aided or revetted the abortion. So you're

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Speaker 2: think it's pretty obvious for anyone who believes in pro

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Speaker 2: Even pro life and birthers are against this as well,

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Speaker 2: like many of them are so. From the South Carolina Gazette,

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Speaker 2: their own news source, they say this quote. Pro lifers

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Speaker 2: purveyors of abortion who act callleously and without regard to

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Speaker 2: their dignity of human life. Lisa Van Riper, president of

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Speaker 2: South Carolina Citizens for Life, set in a statement, but

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Speaker 2: turning women who have abortions into criminals, as a bill does,

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety, also cited the bill's provision that forces volunteers

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Speaker 2: That creates a chilling effect on the centers life saving work,

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Speaker 2: including on pastors, the group set in a release. The

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Speaker 2: we are unable to support this bill as proposed. Steve Pettitt,

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Speaker 2: contact your legislators. We know it doesn't always seem effective,

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Speaker 2: but if you're willing to, these stories are so important

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Speaker 2: this language is so dangerous in so many damned ways.

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Speaker 2: Because we also have the right if IVF is something

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Speaker 2: And we're talking about the government, the Congress legislations. We

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Speaker 1: Oh I hope so well. Also, it's still in fact,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it does. It impacts everybody for sure. Huh. Well, listeners,

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