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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where they would never make up

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Speaker 1: an injury about us before putting us on injured reserve

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Speaker 1: for the season. I'm Greg Rosenthal and I'm here in

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Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio with Patrick Claybon and Cynthia Freeland.

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Speaker 1: We never had this trio as a podcast, but we

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Speaker 1: have done a television show together for a few years.

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Speaker 2: Game debut spoiler alert, it comes back. There we go

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Speaker 2: the Thursday, so the Friday, Friday whatever, the day after

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Speaker 2: the first game of the season.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for it.

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Speaker 1: That's a show where we pick games, where we go

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Speaker 1: through every games. I like to think of it as

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Speaker 1: man versus model. Ye in the model being Cynthia's computer. See,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just me you as well, and

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Speaker 1: I've gotten too old for that now.

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Speaker 4: That is the way the characters the show.

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Speaker 5: Not warranted and conclusion, sorry the description of the show,

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Speaker 5: because I have not model.

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Speaker 3: Man versus model and Patrick's there too.

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Speaker 4: Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Actually, actually Patrick could be a model, so it works out.

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Speaker 2: He's a really good actor. We've seen, remember, all of

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Speaker 2: us are really good actors. We were in a really

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Speaker 2: fun commercial together.

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Speaker 3: That that was fun.

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Speaker 1: Little Little Caesars come back at us if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're involved in twenty four seasons.

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Speaker 5: Still want to be a part of the family like

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Speaker 5: you enjoy Little Caesars.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 5: I have been in contention in all of these seasons,

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Speaker 5: but then I really go on tilt at some point

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Speaker 3: And yeah, Cynthia and I have done this show.

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Speaker 1: I think this is either the fifth or sixth season now,

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Speaker 1: and I was not a competitor. I was not even

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Speaker 1: close to what the first three, but I'm a back

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Speaker 1: to back defending champions for the model got to step up.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be doing some math today. Actually, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's going to be more fun than that.

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Speaker 3: We did a power bawl fine where we each.

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Speaker 1: Submitted our power rankings and in Cynthia's case it's her

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Speaker 1: wind projection model, which is even more exciting to me,

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Speaker 1: and we average them all together, and we decided kind

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Speaker 1: of going into the season, this is the last week

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Speaker 1: really before our Week one schedule, and I just kind

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Speaker 1: of wanted to say, where are we how do we

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Speaker 1: view the league right now, and then we can look

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Speaker 1: back on it at the end of the year. That's

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Speaker 1: how we looked at it, so we have some fun

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Speaker 1: exercise this week. We have an AFC and NFC preview

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Speaker 1: also coming up. I'm going to be going over all

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Speaker 1: the cuts, and a few of them started on Monday,

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Speaker 1: but for the most part, they're going to be happening

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. So I'll do that with Evan Silva. But

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Speaker 1: before any of that, let's do some news. Ceedee lamb,

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Speaker 1: it's done. It happened. He has signed with the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: And if you had to guess what day would it

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Speaker 3: I would have guessed the Monday.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, almost two weeks before the season start,

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Speaker 1: because that just gives you enough time to sign. That

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in a second. But the financials, frankly,

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Speaker 1: aren't that interesting. It's just justin Jefferson, but a little less,

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Speaker 1: thinking like, well, why didn't we just do that three

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Speaker 1: thirty six, one hundred guaranteed and that gets the deal done, Cynthia.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but he got a summer off. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he did fun things, you know, like, no, he

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Speaker 2: He didn't even he didn't have to do anything ox Start.

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Speaker 3: It's nice though.

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Speaker 2: Oxnard is hot. It's like it's smoking up there. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: It's like a twenty men ride from the beach. I mean,

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Speaker 5: But he's been there before. Yeah, yes, he's been there before.

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Speaker 5: He's done all of this. I'm with you, Greg, they

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Speaker 1: I guess that that's the bigger question. And Dak's been

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Speaker 3: So he got that record and it's well deserved.

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Speaker 1: Look, they've done a great job identifying talent in the draft,

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Speaker 1: so you got to give Cowboys credit for that. It's

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Speaker 1: one reason why I'm not as worried about the Deron

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Speaker 1: don't think Dak wants to sign with the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: the future. What do you think is he going to

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 1: It's right, he's reached this far that he's annoyed enough

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Speaker 1: by just kind of kicking the can.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's an athletes first person. You know. They are

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Speaker 2: located in Newport Beach, just saying so, I do know.

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously Asians can be anywhere and they go

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Speaker 2: like I'm with you. I don't think we see I

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Speaker 2: not it's just informed by tea leaves, not by math

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's no need for bombas from Dak. Like

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Speaker 3: And Rar is really mature now, and like, I feel

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mentioned Trent Williams before there was a

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Speaker 1: which almost goes without saying that's what a holdout is.

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Speaker 1: But I think just the fact that that's getting pushed

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Speaker 3: And he would be.

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Speaker 1: The rare player that I believe would push it into

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Speaker 3: That's a big part.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's already signed, sealed, delivered to Canton no

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Speaker 2: matter what happens now, right, But I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: opportunity for him. And I watched that Raiders and Niners game,

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Speaker 2: and I've said this now Patrick's had to hear three

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Speaker 2: times today, but Brock pretty sliding was scary to me, Like,

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Speaker 2: and that was the.

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Speaker 1: Wait, why three times you did Fantasy Live earlier? Everyone

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Speaker 1: should check that out. It's on air now every day

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Speaker 1: of the week. Yeah, to check it out at six pms.

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Speaker 2: And then we were sitting in the green room talking

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Speaker 3: All about ball. It's all ball in the green all ball.

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Speaker 1: I was just sitting by myself alone at the huddle,

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Speaker 2: You know, why did you text us?

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Speaker 3: Well, I texted you the news rundown was going to be.

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Speaker 4: That's when I was for not being like, hey Greg,

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, the cool kids.

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Speaker 3: So you didn't like you didn't like brock pretty sliding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it scared me. It scared me. It didn't

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Speaker 2: look natural. I mean, it just was not a baseball slide.

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Speaker 2: It was like it was like my dogs pulled me

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Speaker 1: You know, because this should almost go without saying, But

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Speaker 1: offense that we need on the field, Auk or Trent

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Speaker 1: william It's Trent Williams, just because of how great a

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Speaker 5: Yes, And I don't get the logic that like, well,

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Speaker 5: don't have to treat anybody else like Trent, Like Cynthia said,

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Speaker 5: Trent's going to the Hall of Fame, right. Trent had

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Speaker 5: team in a GM like Massaga, cancer diagnosis, like Trent's

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Speaker 5: been through a lot. Like just give Trent his money,

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Speaker 4: It seems weird. Ayuk stuff is weird to me. The

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Speaker 1: And Ayuk was at that game traveling with the team

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Speaker 2: it's a good team. With all of these injuries, it

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Speaker 2: which is a weirdly volatile It's a very volatile division.

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Speaker 1: I gotta start looking at the lines for Week one

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Speaker 1: because Dolphins Jaguars, like the Dolphins to me are the classic.

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Speaker 1: Like man, they're a tough Week one team to talk

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Speaker 1: about because of the injuries you talked about, but also

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Speaker 1: because like Mike McDaniel has now a two year history

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Speaker 1: of cooking up some insane stuff Week one that just blasted.

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Speaker 2: Who do you trust more Mike McDaniel architecting plays are

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Speaker 1: I would go Mike McDaniel in that Jaguar another Chubb.

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Speaker 3: Because it's still stupid.

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Speaker 1: There will be one game where some coach goes three

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Speaker 3: Anywhere, I know, Patrick, but Pacer.

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you. It makes it.

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Speaker 1: Greg well after the fact, no, but while you're watching it,

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Speaker 4: Because we know we should get a physical power Pole

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Speaker 1: cost but only once celebrated a birthday this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Happy birthday to Cynthia Freely. Thanks what did you do?

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Speaker 2: Nothing too crazy? You know, went to the beach, hung out,

442
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Speaker 2: a little bit chilled out. The dogs were especially nuts.

443
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Speaker 2: So we have two now, two rescue dogs. One came

444
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Speaker 2: from the draft. His name's Clyde. He's getting settled.

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Speaker 1: You got one of the dogs that were on the

446
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Speaker 1: stage at the draft or in that from them. Yeah,

447
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Speaker 1: that's pretty incredible because I think if you know, our

448
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Speaker 1: listeners watched the draft, they saw the whole the dog

449
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Speaker 1: things a thing now at the and you have one

450
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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 3: Does that make them more valuable, like more lovable?

452
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Speaker 2: Yeah, people, he's the most level. I mean they're both

453
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Speaker 2: the most little. But here's the thing I don't think,

454
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Speaker 2: you know, Like the cool part of the draft is

455
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Speaker 2: all the wood and like the materials from the draft

456
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Speaker 2: they made into a homeless shelter and a span neuter set,

457
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Speaker 2: So pretty cool, like recycling effort of that huge thing

458
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Speaker 2: that they built. And its not gonna lie like Clyde

459
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Speaker 2: just stole my heart. And I didn't even you know,

460
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Speaker 2: didn't didn't ask Kyle, just showed showed up at.

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Speaker 3: Home significant other. Here's not your other dog?

462
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Speaker 2: No, well I didn't ask Gordy Ei though, yes, just

463
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Speaker 2: wanted to clarify. I just showed up.

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Speaker 1: But Cynthia, I gotta say, you know her a long time.

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Speaker 1: She's doing La right.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Patrick and I are close. We love our families. We're

468
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Speaker 1: close ish to the beach. But just to live like

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Speaker 1: right there in the beach town. If you're gonna live

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Speaker 1: in La, just just do it all the way.

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Speaker 3: And you do.

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Speaker 2: And so you guys at are right because like you

473
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Speaker 2: had your children at like a normal age.

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Speaker 3: Well I'm not getting into the children part. Of it.

475
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Speaker 3: I'm more getting into the location.

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Speaker 2: We're like what I think we're called like dinks?

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Speaker 3: What does that mean?

478
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Speaker 2: Dum heads? Okay, so dinks? Is that a little easier

479
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Speaker 2: to live at the beach?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't like that phrase because it's just sounds negative.

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Speaker 1: You're no, it's a great thing. I'm happy for that

483
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Speaker 1: bunch of Eventually I'll steal one of your kids breaking news.

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Speaker 3: They're getting too old for that. They'll be they'll be

485
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Speaker 3: in college where you're.

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Speaker 2: Difficult to give them back for them, because that's that

487
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Speaker 2: sounds expensive.

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Speaker 3: So we each submitted our power pool.

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Speaker 1: We did it a little differently because I just thought,

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Speaker 1: I know how Cynthia's mind works, and her mind works

491
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Speaker 1: through the machine, through the model, and so I just

492
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Speaker 1: asked for her win projections because the amount of numbers

493
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Speaker 1: and everything that goes into those projections are more significant,

494
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Speaker 1: I would say than Patrick and I just doing it

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Speaker 1: off the top of our head. So why don't we

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Speaker 1: take those numbers and combine them with what Patrick and

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Speaker 1: I ring off the top of our head and create

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Speaker 1: an ultimate poll that can't be wrong. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to go through in a bunch of different tiers I

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Speaker 1: name the Tears, and the first tier we're gonna go

501
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Speaker 1: bottom to top is called the season ends in week eighteen. Now,

502
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Speaker 1: in general, we're not saying these are predictions exactly, it's

503
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Speaker 1: just where they're at right now. But I just decided

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Speaker 1: that these eight teams, it would be very surprising if

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Speaker 1: they made the playoffs. And the NFL we're selling hope

506
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Speaker 1: at this time of year, and so when I think hope,

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Speaker 1: I think you got a chance.

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Speaker 3: To make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And look the teams on this list, they have a chance.

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Speaker 1: But to me, they are the eight teams how I

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Speaker 1: would categorize it. If they made the playoffs, I personally

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Speaker 1: would be surprised. Number thirty two the Patriots, Wow, sad

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Speaker 1: times thirty one, the Panthers, number thirty Giants, this is

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Speaker 1: a nice music. Number twenty nine the Broncos.

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Speaker 4: Music is perfect.

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Speaker 3: Number twenty eight the Titans.

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Speaker 2: I like how you said that Titans.

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Speaker 1: I drop that tea offense now I'm trying to h Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I like it. The Raiders are twenty seven. Commanders at

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Speaker 1: twenty six a little higher than would in twenty five Cardinals,

521
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Speaker 1: a little higher than I would have expected.

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Speaker 3: So maybe I'll start there. You guys are a.

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Speaker 1: Little higher on the Commanders than I was when I

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Speaker 1: when I looked at all of our boards that you know, putting.

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Speaker 2: On another twenty five, like why the other team in

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Speaker 2: your division also appears on that list. It just makes

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Speaker 2: it a little bit easier.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that helps.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the significant gap there.

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Speaker 5: And I already said I was irrationally a little too

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Speaker 5: high on the Washington Commanders, and I'm sticking with that.

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Speaker 5: Uh I, A couple of those teams are significantly below

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Speaker 5: where I had the Commanders, and so that that's it.

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Speaker 3: You had him twenty five, by the way, and Cynthia

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Speaker 3: had him twenty four overall, so you were pretty much aligned.

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Speaker 3: I was the only one, you know, I had a

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Speaker 3: bottom three. I was.

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Speaker 1: I just look at everything but Jaden Daniels and Terry

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Speaker 1: McLaurin and think, yeah, I don't know, doesn't look very

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Speaker 1: good in the defensive tackles and maybe the you know,

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Speaker 1: coaching staff as a whole. I like Dan Quinn, like

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Speaker 1: as a as a whole, and maybe on defense, no,

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Speaker 1: I think as a guy who maybe can well yeah

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Speaker 1: he's bring a team together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I'd flipped the Broncos and the

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Speaker 2: and the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up Broncos. Yeah, you were on

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Speaker 3: the sidelined.

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Speaker 2: Bronco preseason, but I would flip them. And I also

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Speaker 2: went to Raiders camp too, so I've seen them both

551
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Speaker 2: driving up close and in person. But I think I

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Speaker 2: would flip the Broncos and the I actually had the

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Speaker 2: Broncos much higher than the two of you, which surprised me.

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Speaker 2: You had him second to last, Patrick, you were in

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Speaker 2: between me and I didn't think I had him that high.

556
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Speaker 2: But I guess Patrick, you're not really buying or feeling

557
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Speaker 2: the positive preseason vibes. I feel like no fan base

558
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Speaker 2: in the entire league has better vibes just based off

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Speaker 2: the last month where they suddenly they think they are contenders.

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Speaker 5: And most importantly the last three weeks of those months. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: because when I was at Broncos joining camp, it was

562
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Speaker 5: not pretty. It was decidedly not pretty. I remember on

563
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Speaker 5: this show I said I thought Jared Sidham was gonna

564
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Speaker 5: win the job. I told that Santhia Sting was like, no, Patrick,

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Speaker 5: this is bo Nix's job. And apparently Bo really got

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Speaker 5: a whole lot better after I left and I'm glad

567
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Speaker 5: that he did, but I still don't like just looking

568
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Speaker 5: at the rest of the roster and the way things are,

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Speaker 5: it's tough for me to have them that much higher

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Speaker 5: than everybody else that we had.

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Speaker 4: In that group.

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Speaker 2: I just I think that the I think that the

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Speaker 2: the thing with the thing that the Broncos have going

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Speaker 2: for them is they're all rowing in the same direction

575
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Speaker 2: this year. You know, they're a really young team. Uh,

576
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Speaker 2: they're very like they decided to be Bill Parcell's model.

577
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Speaker 2: They have big pass catchers, they're all huge, like you know,

578
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Speaker 2: don't even let their names for you. Little Jordan Humphrey,

579
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Speaker 2: he is massive, right, So all big receivers, big targets.

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Speaker 2: Greg Dolcic is back who you know, you know, a

581
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Speaker 2: Sean Payton offense executes best when there's a really great

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Speaker 2: tight end. And Boonix listens to what his coach wants

583
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Speaker 2: him to do and does it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, as oppose to the last quarterback. Yeah, it's

585
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Speaker 1: it could be an upgrade.

586
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Speaker 2: But he's like a Hall of Fame like.

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Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, Vance Joseph you know, just hasn't had a

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Speaker 1: I will say defense in a while.

589
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Speaker 2: Not list you put a white corner in and I

590
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Speaker 2: love you Riley Moss.

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Speaker 3: Baby, he might be Cooper Degene.

592
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Speaker 2: To uh oh, I think hell, I haven't seen starting lineup,

593
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Speaker 2: but Riley Moss actually played really really well, Like it

594
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Speaker 2: was really impressive to watch. And I mean Patzertan is

595
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Speaker 2: quietly should be getting paid, like quietly not saying all

596
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Speaker 2: the things that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Sean Payton when he's asked about Patrick

598
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Speaker 1: Sirtan is a little cagey that like, hey, he's.

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Speaker 3: Kind of good. He kind of is like he's got

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Speaker 3: to prove it to me. Then he is.

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Speaker 1: He's downing Is a year ago. It's just a small thing.

602
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Speaker 1: I have to admit though, Patrick, I hate this. This

603
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Speaker 1: is the problem with the preseason because I was very

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Speaker 1: down on this Broncos team as just like they're not talented.

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Speaker 2: They're fun though, they're having fun on the sideline.

606
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Speaker 1: And this this whole vibes thing. Plus Sean Payton is

607
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Speaker 1: just telling you he like can't lose more than nine games.

608
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Speaker 1: It's just kind of been proven so far and last

609
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Speaker 1: year even last year he did and so then now

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Speaker 1: it's like now I kind of see it. So I

611
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Speaker 1: was the one who ranked him higher than you I

612
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Speaker 1: just had him like twenty fourth or whatever. But I

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Speaker 1: just thought, Okay, maybe they're just gonna be seven and

614
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Speaker 1: nine again. Maybe I was wrong, but I hate falling

615
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Speaker 1: for the vibes in this month.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but the run game. You don't have to fall

617
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Speaker 2: for the vibes. But the run game and stopping the

618
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Speaker 2: runner to Baron Browning is starting this season not injured.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of good things going on. I mean,

620
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Speaker 2: Malcolm Roach came in there with all of it. He's

621
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Speaker 2: like the most fun I want to have.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Broncos employee, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what I saw firsthand, and it

624
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Speaker 2: was good things. And by the way, fantasy players, we

625
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Speaker 2: do fantasy whatever. Javonte Williams looks great, and so does

626
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Speaker 2: Audric Estimate. Audrick Estimate, Notre Dame. His biceps are the

627
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Speaker 2: size of like tree trunks.

628
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Speaker 3: Shook like Nick Shook.

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Speaker 2: There, they look like Nick Schuk's arms. And he's not

630
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Speaker 2: as tall as Nick Shook. Nick Schok's much bigger man

631
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Speaker 2: than Audrey.

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Speaker 5: I'm like Geez, which is even more impressive for Shook

633
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Speaker 5: that he's a chair.

634
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 4: He's got the pythons like that at his.

635
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Speaker 2: Height, it's incredible. It's incredible, but it's anyway.

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Speaker 3: We finally didn't wear a tank top on our Sunday

637
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Speaker 3: night show. Why it was nice to me.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk Titans before we get out of by the way,

639
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: let's just rest in Peaceton, New England.

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Speaker 3: Patriots just that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they're they're dead last, and they're the Vegas favorite

642
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: for the first overall pick, and everyone's just like, yep,

643
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Speaker 1: I had them twenty I I had a fourth to

644
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Speaker 1: last Patriots fans out there, But these two.

645
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Speaker 5: Guys, these before I saw the offensive line in the

646
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Speaker 5: preseason game, I wish there was a thirty three.

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Speaker 1: One thing I'll say about that offensive line is almost

648
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Speaker 1: none of those players are going to be playing the

649
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Speaker 1: same position in Week one. Now that's a problem in itself, yes,

650
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Speaker 1: but they were trying something and didn't work.

651
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Speaker 3: It didn't work.

652
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Speaker 2: They're just not showing us any Let's put a positives fat.

653
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Speaker 2: They're not showing us anything, you know.

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Speaker 1: I like their quarterback better than a lot of this

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Speaker 1: bottom tier. I will say that, like I said, Cardinals,

656
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: Commanders Raiders, yea Cardinal's getting a little bit of love

657
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: up towards the top of this Raiders, Titans, Broncos, Giants, Panthers, Patriots.

658
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: Let's just talk Titans very quickly, because I feel like

659
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: they are the team I have not talked about.

660
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: Like lost in the sauce, Like I feel like I

661
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: don't hear as much about them either.

662
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: I am hopeful that Brian Callahan and his pops can

663
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: create watchable off because of the offensive line just improving

664
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: that much. If you go from thirty second, thirty first

665
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: offensive line to thirteenth or fourteenth through scheme, then suddenly

666
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: the guys they have can look a lot better.

667
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: And litl Levis is a little fun. Do you have

668
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: any hope for the.

669
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: Is there anyone in this group, by the way, where

670
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: you you think they do have a playoff chance?

671
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: A real playoff chance.

672
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm looking, I'm trying to remember the group again.

673
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm not gonna sit here and say that

674
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 4: they have no chance.

675
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: Like I pay you would be surprised.

676
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 4: I would be significantly surprised. I have them just behind

677
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 4: a few teams.

678
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 5: That I also don't think are going into the playoffs,

679
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 5: But I don't think Titans.

680
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 4: They're not.

681
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 5: They're not in my bottom tier where it's like I

682
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 5: would be shocked.

683
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look the Titans, if they can, if they can,

684
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: I just have a lot of questions, right, you know,

685
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: obviously DeAndre Hopkins not playing in the beginning, Like that's

686
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: a big loss, big target there. It's a Calvin Ridley's

687
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: team now, like.

688
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: What like that and some weird reports about Calvin Ridley

689
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: in practice.

690
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: But right, that's what I mean, Like you've been hearing

691
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: all these conflicting things and then you have some like

692
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: pieces on the defense like maybe we're all not seeing

693
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: anything right, Maybe maybe we just have no idea. Tough division,

694
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: too tough division, very exciting division, up and coming division.

695
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know, Like that's not the one I

696
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: would pick on that list that had the better.

697
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: Okay, shout out to the Cardinals just for getting to

698
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: twenty five. Yeah, I think they've got They've got some

699
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: uphill uphill climb here to be a good team. But

700
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: the fact that they're twenty five, hete helps when we

701
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. We believe in you Cardinals. All right,

702
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: our next group and this is the smallest one that

703
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: we have. Oh I called this trapped in the nether world. Yes,

704
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: number twenty four Vikings, number twenty three Chargers and number

705
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: twenty two Saints. These are the teams that are just

706
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: kind of like in the bermu To triangle of like

707
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. To me right now, Vikings, Chargers, Saints. Where

708
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: are they?

709
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: We don't know. They're trapped in the nether world Fitzpatrick.

710
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 4: And also I love them use the nether world sounds fighting.

711
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 5: It's it's creeping me out, literally, Yeah, especially considering the

712
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 5: quarterback in this particular group, like one of them being

713
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: Sam Donald, and so there's a Sam Darnald factor there.

714
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 5: But between Carr and Herbo, like, these guys have won

715
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 5: a lot of games, and you wonder what the particular I.

716
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: Thought you were gonna say one quarterback really stands out

717
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: out of these three.

718
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 5: Yes, well, yeah, for sure he does.

719
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: But everything that changed. They lose so much talent, and.

720
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily the biggest Greg Roman fan or believer,

721
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 5: and so that's where I had them there. I'm a

722
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 5: little surprised that you guys kind of felt the same

723
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 5: way I did about the Chargers, but with so much

724
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 5: talent leaving, like, where's where's it coming from?

725
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: I understand that they want run the foot. I don't

726
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: think they've made any I mean clearly, and I think

727
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: taking Joe out was a great decision. It doesn't make

728
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: this year easier though, And is lad McConkie going to

729
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: be your lead receiver? Like, I don't know, even if

730
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: he's awesome, that's still a rookie and rookies notoriously have

731
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: a hard time against these NFL defenses. They're not easy

732
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: to pick up right away. And you're in the AFC

733
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: West for goodness sake.

734
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: Also was a guy that was like a role player

735
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: more or less in college. I mean, he just wasn't

736
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: like a one you know what I mean.

737
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: I'm just saying confusing right Like like I like him.

738
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: I think for fantasy he could be a great pick,

739
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: like for a later round guy like cool, but for

740
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: real football to hard to distinguish it. I actually thought

741
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: that those Saints were going to be down in that

742
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: not making the playoff's division.

743
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: So I wanted to separate these three because well, like

744
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: it's how the numbers spit him out too.

745
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: But I thought they fit well together because.

746
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: So they do for sure.

747
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: I think I think they could make the playoffs if

748
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: in fact we have. We haven't done our predictions here,

749
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: but I look at this exercise power ranking as different

750
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: than predictions. If you're telling me the Chargers get that

751
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: last day spot because they have a great coach and

752
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: a great quarterback and they scheme up their defense a

753
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: little bit, that to me wouldn't be that surprising if it,

754
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: like the Saints, they won nine games last year, and

755
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: there's a reason to believe they're the same essentially, and

756
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: and the Vikings are actually sneaky talent.

757
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: Well, so here's the one thing, the little trick of

758
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: the schedule. Yeah, this NFC South plays the AFC West,

759
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: So it would be more likely in my view that

760
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: the Chargers would make it than the Saints because it then,

761
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: you know, like the the Chargers get to play perhaps

762
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: you know some other teams that appear like the Panthers,

763
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: right like so, and I know that the Saints do too,

764
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: but that Saints also have to play like.

765
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Speaker 1: It's just I'm debating between Chargers and Jags maybe as

766
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: like my surprisey.

767
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: Is it with the Jags. We're surprid.

768
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Speaker 1: I don't know, no one's paying attention to them. That's

769
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: all definitely not okay, what do you mean, I'll just

770
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: kidd it frisky.

771
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Speaker 5: It's yeah, it's I feel the Jags defensive doubts have

772
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 5: been strong in your mind for a company.

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Speaker 3: Yes, let's go to the next one, because the Jacks

774
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: are in it.

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Speaker 1: It's called frisky, and these are just these are just

776
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Speaker 1: the teams that I conder prisky twenty one, The Tampa

777
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers yep, number twenty, The Chicago Bears not as

778
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: much love as I expected, number nineteen, The Steelers number eighteen,

779
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: the Colts number seventeen, the Jaguars number sixteen, the Seahawks

780
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Speaker 1: number fifteen, the Browns now Patrick. You mentioned Jacksonville. I've

781
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: had doubts about that, Devens. I gotta say, having John

782
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: Shipley on the show and hearing about Ryan Nielsen, sometimes

783
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: scheme can make up a big difference.

784
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 3: Trevon Walker's a little better.

785
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a little more thinking about Okay, this could

786
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: be a good year for Trev and people are kind

787
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: of forgetting about them. But I really like the Colts too.

788
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: I had a hard time separating those two teams. I

789
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: had them both, both of them. I had actually a

790
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: little higher than this seventeen eighteen ranking. Wow, the Bucks

791
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: are the last group, the last team in this frisky

792
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: I think they're frisky, and they're not even in the

793
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: same category as the Falcons because of you guys.

794
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 5: It's no love for the Bucks. It's no anti it's

795
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 5: not being anti Bucks's. I appreciate those teams that are

796
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 5: ahead of them. I too like the Colts and the Jags.

797
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 5: I think being in the division with the Texans makes

798
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 5: things a little more difficult for them.

799
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Speaker 1: But as far as the over you can say that,

800
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: but you can also rank them twentieth when I ad

801
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: them sixteen.

802
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying the results may not ultimately reveal

803
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 5: like my particular rankings. Okay, but that's because the results

804
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 5: don't always indicate how good the actual football team.

805
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: You have the Jags, though, Patrick, and then we'll move

806
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: to you, Cynthia. Yeah, significantly higher than the Cults. So

807
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: between those two teams, why do you like the Jags?

808
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Why do you put them a little higher?

809
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 5: I think experience as well as continuity, and I like

810
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 5: you value what John says about the Jags, and I

811
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 5: think they're getting better.

812
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: My only rank, like, the reason that the Bucks end

813
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 2: up becoming low for me is because my model doesn't

814
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: love the South in general, So it's very narrow between

815
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: who comes out of it, between the Falcons and the Bucks.

816
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: I think it's hard when you don't have We have

817
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: yet to see them have like a very consistent run game,

818
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: and no matter what quarterback you are, that is hard

819
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 2: to do. I do love that Mike Evans and Chris

820
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: Godwin both seem to be healthy, and Godwin's back in

821
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: the slot. That is good, but it's very hard to consistently.

822
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: But they've got a lot of turnover on their defense.

823
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 2: And I know Todd Bowles is a defensive minded head coach,

824
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: but I still need to see it all kind of

825
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: put together.

826
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, in this exercise, again, it's a power ranking. It's

827
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: not exactly like our predictions. Now this season, we see

828
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: the Browns as a mid level team and we.

829
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 2: Well, the Browns, no, no, no, they're an elite defense,

830
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: best defense one two maybe. But I don't know what

831
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: am I looking at with offense and when will Nick

832
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: chop me back? I love Nick Chubb, but like I'm confused.

833
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: I want to know what I'm looking at in the offense.

834
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: I want consistency.

835
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: Someone pointed out now I forget who it was a

836
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: stat that shook me. I'm was it me down on

837
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: the Browns relatively because of their defense, not because they

838
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: won't be good, but just because they won't be as good.

839
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: And I think it was that they gave up twenty

840
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: nine plus points per game on the road last year.

841
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: I just like, man, that's half the season. They were

842
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: a bad defense. They were literally one of the worst defenses.

843
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: So that there, and they were so dominant and they

844
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: would it's just kind of random and its schedule and

845
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: backups and so yeah, like them and the Seahawks to

846
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: me were perfect teams to be fifteen and sixteen because

847
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: if you each of those teams, I think they certainly

848
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: have a chance to make the playoffs. I think each

849
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: of those teams have a chance to win the division, yep,

850
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: if everything goes right, because the talent that they do

851
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: have is like top tier talent, and that's what defines

852
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: a frisky team.

853
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: Do you think of my title of.

854
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 5: The Yeah, I love frisky because those teams. Every team

855
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 5: that's within frisky has a propensity, has a quarterback that

856
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 5: they can put that can put points on the board

857
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 5: and maybe he can be a round it yeah, like

858
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 5: Baker could light it up with anybody.

859
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: But also Caleb too, I think Caleb, Caleb's gonna be

860
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Caleb than Baker obviously even this year

861
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: by by a decent amount. And yet I think he's

862
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: gonna have some magical games and he'll have some learning

863
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: moments to this, you know, probably lower today than they

864
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: would have been if we did this exercise a month ago.

865
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Speaker 1: I think they are taking a little bit of heat,

866
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: a little bit up, but maybe even unfair just recency

867
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: bias because just the preseasons left a bad taste in

868
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: her mouth.

869
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: Let's go.

870
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: And so all those teams, we think, at least for me,

871
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm speaking for myself, that if they made the playoffs

872
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't be that big of a So we're like, we

873
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: have about twenty one of those teams where I think

874
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: their fans would be kind of disappointed if they didn't

875
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. So that's why, Yep, it's tough. The

876
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: next one, it's more definitive. If these five teams don't

877
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, it kind of equals problems, whether that

878
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: means changes in staff in terms of coaching, or just

879
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: criticism oh from their fan base, like their fans expect

880
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: them to make the playoffs.

881
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at it.

882
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: Number fourteen, the Falcons number thirteen, the Jets number twelve,

883
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: the Rams number eleven, the Cowboys and how about the

884
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins sneaking in the top ten here? But I was

885
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: a little harsh and decided to cut the tier. Lie

886
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: right there. I wasn't gonna put them in the tier above,

887
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: even though the numbers kind of said I should have.

888
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: So that's where you can just put your finger on

889
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: the scale if you host the freaking show.

890
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: Cynthia, I like it. The Dolphins, to me, a lot

891
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: of that comes down to injuries. Yes, Like I mean,

892
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: and look, I'm gonna be I'm not going to be

893
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: popular for saying this, but do we really seeing the

894
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: Cowboys are that good?

895
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: We had them eleventh?

896
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, all fans expect them to be twelve games

897
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: in the last two years, so they've they have a

898
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: great quarterback. Yes, and they have and CD if I

899
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, to me, the best defensive player in the world,

900
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: if I had to choose one, agreed.

901
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: So, but I'm really worried about their O line and

902
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: Ezekiel Elliott forecasts to be their starting right back. I'm

903
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: just saying, like, I'm just a little like that one's

904
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: a little that one's a little high for me.

905
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 3: Okay, but they get to play. I mean, I'm pushing

906
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: back on you.

907
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: And yet when it comes to predictions, like I might

908
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: not I might just have them out of the playoffs

909
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: because I feel like I need to have a few

910
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: teams in and out and I'm not picking them the

911
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: win the division. So like there's a chance there that

912
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: it falls apart a little bit power rankings wise, when

913
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: you just look at experience, coaching staff, the roster that

914
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: they have, I'm even feeling a little better about these

915
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: rookie offensive linemen.

916
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: What what stands out to you out of that group?

917
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 5: Patrick, It's the Dolphins. I have the Dolphins significantly higher

918
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 5: than that. I understand that there's been Oh.

919
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: That was you were the one that did it, so

920
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: you had yeah Dolphins six. Yeah, you were the one

921
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: that did it, and I had them twelve. So I

922
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: have a high too. It's just all it's all about injuries.

923
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 3: Okay, six, that's awesome.

924
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 5: Like why just I think time together continuities was the

925
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 5: biggest part of the way that I put my list together. Multimately,

926
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 5: you've you've seen the Chiefs went back to back Super Bowls.

927
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 5: They they've been able to maintain continuity among key parts

928
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 5: of the staff and the team, And I just think

929
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 5: the longer you keep a group together, the better the

930
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 5: results get. As other teams, like some of that we'll

931
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: talk about coming up here, are getting worse. Like I

932
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 5: think there's some title contenders that are actually getting worse.

933
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 5: And if those teams are getting worse, then you've got

934
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 5: teams that are up and coming that get better. And

935
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 5: I think Miami falls into that. But oh, I know,

936
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 5: we'll see, we'll see.

937
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: How things got a lot of questions though offense.

938
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: I feel like this line agreed. I think these of

939
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 2: all the divisions the AFC East comes down to people's availability.

940
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: There's a lot of injured players on the Bills. There's

941
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: a lot of injured players on the Dolphins. There's a

942
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: lot of injured players, or the Jets maybe don't have

943
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 2: people come in.

944
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 3: The Jets tenth which is higher than Patrick by a

945
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: good amount. Patrick Adam in the middle.

946
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: I was kind of between you two, and then I

947
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: notice you have Bill's Dolphins, Jets eight nine tens, so

948
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: you see those three AFC.

949
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: Sorry, what happens is when you do projections, when things

950
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: are close. It gets close to point five, right, So

951
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: I don't have anyone in that division having like zero

952
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: point six wins, meaning sixty sixty percent of the time

953
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: they win. And you know how finnicky the model is.

954
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: You both do, so I think like it's going to be.

955
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: It's very volatile, like the stock market the past few weeks,

956
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: a lot of vics. The vix is high here.

957
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: Rams I think would have gotten a little more pop

958
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: coming into this season. They're twelfth here, Falcons are fourteenth.

959
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for the preseason injuries, just dimming them,

960
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: just the little.

961
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 2: Injuries they were, it was a totally like that number

962
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: significantly changed.

963
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: They're the A lot of these teams to me are

964
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: boomer busts. Actually, I should have called that this section

965
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,479
Speaker 1: not just no playoffs equals problems boomer bus because Dolphins, Cowboys, Rams, Debts,

966
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: Falcons for me high ceiling also could easily miss the playoffs,

967
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: and that wouldn't shock me. I'm not as high on

968
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: the Falcons as you guys. I just got to see it.

969
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: To me, a lot of questions on the defense and

970
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: even the offense, which has a lot of name value.

971
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: I gotta see it, although I looked at their schedule

972
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: and man, after their bye, if you were trying to

973
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: create and who knows how it's going to work out,

974
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: if you were trying to create like the easiest six

975
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: or seven games slate you possibly could, That's what the

976
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: Falcons are after their by.

977
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: If the Falcons don't win, that's the biggest, no problem,

978
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: like like if they is it.

979
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 3: Like they pushed Oh here's the thing that's a new

980
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: staff and.

981
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: Uh, it's it's I don't know, people have gotten fired

982
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 2: after one year before in life.

983
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: Like all they got to do is like win nine games.

984
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: I just think, No, I just think if they don't

985
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: somehow make the playoffs, it's going to be.

986
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 3: Well, that's true.

987
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true of the Jets and the Cowboys, certainly

988
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: of this tier. All right, let's take a quick break

989
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: and then we'll hit the final two tiers back on

990
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: NFL Daily Waited all show to find out who are

991
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: the nine teams nine that are the very best in

992
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 1: the NFL. And this next tier is five of them

993
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: that I'm calling just it wouldn't be a shock if

994
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: we made the Super Bowl.

995
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: I'm using that word shock.

996
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: If you see these teams in the super Bowl, it

997
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't be that surprising.

998
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: So let's start at number nine. The Packers, who I

999
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: expect is.

1000
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: Gonna get are going to get a lot of like

1001
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: they make the Super Bowl.

1002
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: Love.

1003
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: I was thinking of going that way. Number eight Bengals,

1004
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: Number seven Eagles.

1005
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: You were thinking of picking the Packers to win the.

1006
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl all off season. I thought I was going

1007
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: to and then I'm coming off of it now. Uh,

1008
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: six Bills, five Texans. How about the Texans being in

1009
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: the top five after being thirty two in this exercise

1010
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: if we did it a year ago.

1011
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: That's an awesome group. And uh, where do you want

1012
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: to start?

1013
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: How about the Bengals, Cynthia, You had him number five,

1014
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: I believe, so that was the highest of the three

1015
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: of us, and I wanted you to.

1016
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: Talk about it.

1017
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: Fourth place schedule, baby, Yeah, that's a huge deal. Fourth

1018
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: place schedule for Joey b and his guy Jamar Chase,

1019
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: who I fully expect to be all good. He's practicing now, Yeah,

1020
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: he's practicing, which means likely playing. And I'm not breaking

1021
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: new yet because we don't know. But you know, I

1022
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 2: think it's very interesting how things like these small those

1023
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 2: three unique games can make such a big difference, especially

1024
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 2: in the North where that's the most difficult division football

1025
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: in my decimation, So that's truly Yeah.

1026
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: You had them ahead of the Ravens by a tiny time,

1027
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: and in this exercise, Patrick and I and it to

1028
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: me it's power rankings too, as the best team where

1029
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: they're at now, we had a pretty big gap between

1030
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: the Ravens, and.

1031
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: I know you power ranked it, but I did it

1032
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: by winter. I know, and I'm just saying I think

1033
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: I think the Ravens are a better team, but I

1034
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: think the Bengals have a better schedule.

1035
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 3: It's a good combo.

1036
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: You had them at a tenth, which is relatively low,

1037
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: but I guess not. They finished eighth, and they're in

1038
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: this group where you wouldn't be surprised to be covering

1039
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow in New Orleans.

1040
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 5: Oh not at all. And I think they are a

1041
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 5: better team than they were last year. That would be

1042
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 5: fun even even without right the Burrow Joe being back.

1043
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 5: It is something I talked about all last season. We

1044
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 5: were actually talked about it earlier today that the Bengals

1045
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 5: lost like ninety six percent of their snaps at safety

1046
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 5: and then they come into last season and it looked

1047
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 5: bad on the back end, and so they go get you,

1048
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 5: you know, stone von Bell comes back. It seems like

1049
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 5: an admission. Okay, we need that. Yeah, And so I

1050
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 5: feel better about the the team as a whole.

1051
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: And I think Andre Jose of us looked.

1052
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 3: Incredible, complete player.

1053
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 4: I think the whole time that.

1054
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 5: I was there for Bengals camp, and so I believe

1055
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 5: in the offense, think the defense is better.

1056
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 4: I think they're a good team.

1057
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: It's funny the Texans finished fifth, None of them, none

1058
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: of us actually had them as high as five, but

1059
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: it was just six seven six. We all see them

1060
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: in that group. Just the talent's pretty overwhelming. Eagles was

1061
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: a team that I thought I'd be the highest on

1062
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: idem seventh.

1063
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: Cynthia had him second love it.

1064
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: They might they might be my super Bowl team. You know,

1065
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't do this, but I have to look and

1066
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: see how everything shakes out once all these fifty three

1067
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: are set.

1068
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: But I kind of wanted to. I'm thinking about them.

1069
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: I picked them to the super Bowl the last two years.

1070
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: One year that was a fiasco, one year it was fantastic.

1071
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: So well, no, I mean the way that I this

1072
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: one's interesting because I think they're super boom or bust,

1073
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: like if things start to go a little teeter tottery

1074
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: for them, like that could be the ones who, like

1075
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 2: I think that they're just by talent alone exactly really

1076
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: really strong team. But so if something did go wrong,

1077
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: I do see this as being like like that would

1078
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: be terrible. So but you know what, the Niners, who

1079
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: are the other class of the division or the class

1080
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: of the NFC. To me, they're seemingly in a lot

1081
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: of question marks too. So who's unquestion mark?

1082
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: Ye, no, buddy, that's a great question. I had the

1083
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: Bills higher than you guys. I would have had them

1084
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: in my first tier. I just I don't get the

1085
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if doubts the right word, but you

1086
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: have the Dolphins ahead of the Bills, for instance, Patrick,

1087
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I To me, it's just like they

1088
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: are the closest thing to the Chiefs in the NFL.

1089
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: I know they haven't won the Super Bowls and he's not,

1090
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, he's not, but they are the other team

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers obviously, I meant in the AFC, just

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00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: like they're so consistent. They I just know who they

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00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: are on defense in terms of the schematic advantage McDermott provides.

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00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: And I know who Josh Allen is, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: really worried about anything else.

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Speaker 2: I'm worried about the defense.

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00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I'm gonna Matt.

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00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: Malano not being there. Their safeties are complete.

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Speaker 1: You guys have them eighths, not like you have them buried,

1100
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: but you do have them a tier lower than they

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00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: probably would have been the last few years.

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Speaker 2: In the sex or so right now, I mean, this

1103
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: is the first time we'll see the no mic Micah

1104
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: Hyde or Jordan Poyer at safety in however many years.

1105
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: That's a big thing. And they're two starting corners, and

1106
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: they're three starting corners. The best one was probably Tron Johnson. Like,

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00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: that's scary, man, I'm.

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00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 5: Gonna need somebody on the defensive side of the ball

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00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 5: to be closer to Chris Jones before I say that.

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Speaker 4: They're the closest thing to the Kansas City Chiefs.

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00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: What about fun Miller.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean we got we got twenty twenty fourteen

1113
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 5: Vaughn like busting through. You're right, yeah, but it's just

1114
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 5: it's all Josh, and I love Josh, but it can't

1115
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 5: just all be Josh. At this point, it seems.

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00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: Like good line, good system. I think good depth throughout

1117
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: the depth chart. Maybe a wide receiver, not as many startes.

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00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: I no, I disagree. I think I think they're deep

1119
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: enough in the at least at cornerback and at wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not, maybe not top shelf talent, but like enough

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Speaker 1: be enough B level play.

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00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: I hope, like see I look to me, Josh cares

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00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: a lot of evils, and that old line cares a

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00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: lot of evils as well. I think the way you

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00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: navigate this is, can they solidify the run game, Because

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00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: if they have a really solid run game that's not

1127
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 2: just Josh, that'll be fine because they can control the clock.

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Speaker 2: If they can't, they can put themselves in more manageable

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00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: downs and distances, anticipate what passes are coming against them.

1130
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: But I would really feel better if Matt Malana were there.

1131
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: Agree, And I think Bill and he might be by December.

1132
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: So they just got to stay in the mix and

1133
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: we'll see the final group.

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00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: We went shocking.

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00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: It's the teams that were in the final four, but

1136
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: it's a power pool. It's the favorites. The Lion's fourth

1137
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: so that should make you feel better, Cynthia, that they're

1138
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: not higher. That's right, Lions fourth, Ravens third, forty nine

1139
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: or second, Chiefs first. So basically how the last season,

1140
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: and that's fine. It's a power pool and there's really

1141
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: not huge reasons to go against any of these teams.

1142
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers maybe in the short term, but

1143
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: in the long term, it's kind of hard to argue

1144
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: with who they've been and I'm finding, at least for

1145
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: this exercise, not a lot of juice here, not a

1146
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: lot of disagreement. We all had the Chiefs first, none

1147
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: of us had the forty nine Ers anywhere lower than third,

1148
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: and the others were pretty consistent too.

1149
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 3: We were basically in agreement on these teams.

1150
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: If there was a team here, I'm going to just

1151
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: go hard because I'd be surprised if any of these

1152
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: teams didn't make the playoffs. But if you had to

1153
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: choose one of these four teams that did not make

1154
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs, I actually think I would choose the.

1155
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 5: Forty nine ers.

1156
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 4: We're lock solid.

1157
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: Day.

1158
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 5: We talked about all the weird stuff that's going on.

1159
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: In the division and the schedule.

1160
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it first, games against the Jets.

1161
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: That's like a hard first one if things aren't put

1162
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: back together, and like once that like, it's hard to

1163
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: get things back together if you don't get the you

1164
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: don't get the chemistry going. And you know, I don't know.

1165
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: I also just trust quarterbacks more, and I think the

1166
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and those other teams are just significantly more trustable.

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Speaker 1: I find it interesting how the Chiefs look on paper

1168
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: when the last couple of years on paper going into

1169
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: the year, there was actually more concerns about them, yep,

1170
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: and you know, they won the Super Bowl both.

1171
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: Of those years.

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00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: This year it feels like there's less and I don't know,

1173
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: there's not really many things to pick apart with them.

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00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 3: Maybe the corner back then.

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00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, we do kind of handwave away lugarious need in

1176
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 5: his department a little bit.

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00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 4: But it's hard to overlook.

1178
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: To me, it's more human nature.

1179
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: I got into it with Pete Sweeney and Arrowhead Pride

1180
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: that to me, it's more just like human nature. And

1181
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: even that might not be or just like the luck

1182
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: of the draw that like, hey, you just might not

1183
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 1: get through this single elimination tournament unscathed again, just because

1184
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: it's hard to do.

1185
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: That's that's kind of the way I feel like when

1186
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 2: I close my eyes and think of the difference between

1187
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: the AFC and the NFC. It's like the NFC, those

1188
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: teams should make the playoffs and they're probably kind of

1189
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: gonna fall the way we see them after week four.

1190
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: But in the AFC we see mix and it's like

1191
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: a single elimination tournament could roll the dice either way.

1192
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: That's where it gets more difficult.

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00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: They also are, you know, the most likely team to

1194
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: have the one seede, just because the schedule is not

1195
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: that tough in the divisions.

1196
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: But even even so, I still think that two games

1197
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: they would have to play really tough people. It's not like, no,

1198
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: it doesn't like the AFC team like do you want

1199
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: to play C. J. Stroud? Do you want to play

1200
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 2: the Bengals? Do you want to play the Ravens?

1201
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 4: Do you like?

1202
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: The answers kind of know like for all of that, So.

1203
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: We're not exactly putting all of our predictions out here.

1204
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: We will have an AFC NFC preview wall so have

1205
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: a game day view season preview where we get into

1206
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: the numbers of it all and try to pick who's

1207
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: making the Super Bowl there too, And.

1208
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: I have a I have a request, Yes, can your

1209
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: kids pick their Super Bowl favorites too? They need to

1210
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: be in the mix for that.

1211
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: I'll ask, I will ask. I mean, I feel like

1212
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 3: Ellen in a.

1213
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: Few years will get yours too.

1214
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: There's ls will pick the Rams. She's not really into

1215
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: the other thirty one teams.

1216
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: Who cares?

1217
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: And I think the Walker picked the Texans, which would

1218
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 3: be a fun.

1219
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: But I think Walker is like he's really on it.

1220
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: He's on it now, He's he would be there, can

1221
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: be coming for your job.

1222
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: Walker might be caring. It's hard. You know, this is

1223
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: a daily show we need. Yeah, Well, if.

1224
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna be there, goer better be training for this.

1225
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 3: That's right.

1226
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: Every day forever includes Wednesday at least Wednesday morning, where

1227
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: we'll be recapping all the cuts around cut on Down.

1228
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: Actually tweet at me, let me know we've been putting

1229
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: up the podcast at the exact same time every day.

1230
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: Let me know on Twitter if for Cutdown Day, you

1231
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: wanna get it out there sooner. My instinct is, actually, okay,

1232
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: it's all the cuts, and I know it's not gonna

1233
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: be like crazy huge news, but this is a day,

1234
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: as someone who's into just like how teams are formed.

1235
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm really into. So I'm thinking about just putting that

1236
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: one out when it's ready. So let me know if

1237
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: that if you want that, if you don't, we should

1238
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: tweet for the older U or if you want to

1239
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 1: hold it for overnight.

1240
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: Thank you, Eric. Let's play the music.

1241
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: For Patrick Claybon Yeah, catch him, Cynthia and Fantasy Live.

1242
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: MH.

1243
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: Like I said, game debut.

1244
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: Will start a week from Friday, Week one on NFL Network.

1245
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: But it was it was a pleasure to have you guys.

1246
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: Till next time.

1247
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 2: I love you guys.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm