1 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome to a new episode of couch 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Talks on Therapy Podcast. My name is Kat. I am 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: the host and couch Talks, if you are unfamiliar with it, 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: is usually the episode where I Kat answer questions that 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: you guys send to me at Katherine at therapy podcast 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: dot com. However, today we're going to do things a 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: little bit differently because I was inspired by an article 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: that I read online and an experience that I had 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: this weekend. But quick reminder before we get into the 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: content that although this podcast is hosted by me and 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm a therapist and it's called You Need Therapy, it 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: does not serve as a replacement or a substitute for 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: actual mental health services. However, we always hope that it 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: can help you in some way, in whatever way it 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: needs to help or speak to you that day. Now, 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: we just got through Labor Day, which is for a 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: lot of people the symbol of transitioning from summer to fall, 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: which is a lot of things. A lot of things 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: shift as we move out of summer, school and vacations 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: come to a close. Stability happens. We have more structure. 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Football season starts, which if you are somebody who loves 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: somebody who is obsessed with football, and you might not 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: care very much. You know that that comes with a 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: lot of changes in your schedule, like eight hours of 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: continuous football on Sunday because somebody I don't know his name, 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: but he decided to create something called the Red Zone, 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: which is eight hours of continuous football highlights of all 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: the games that are being played. I learned this weekend 29 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: that the person who does that drinks limited water or 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: liquids the day of so he doesn't have to get 31 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: up and take bathroom breaks, which, honestly, I really think 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: you should drink more water or whatever your drink of choices, 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: because then it would give our loved ones who are 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: watching your eight hours of football a moment to give 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: us some attention, you know, or maybe a moment for 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: them to go to the bathroom. That fact really just 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: blew my mind, and I think it's interesting. Anyway, That's 38 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: not what we're talking about today, but we are talking 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: about the fall. And you know, I this weekend actually 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: went to Target to transition my home to fall. I 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: thought nothing is speaking to me more right now than 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: a need for a new front door, front porch escape. 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: I want a new wreath on my door that has 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: some orange or some red and something, you know fall. 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: I need a new doormat. Some actually didn't have a doormat. 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: I need a doormat. I want some like plants. I 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: got a cute lantern because I wanted that like cozy 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: welcoming to feeling that fall brings to me. And most 49 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: targets have Starbucks. Well, I went to Starbucks before I 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: started doing my hours of peruising. I went to go Actually, 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: this is hilarious. I went to get a list of target. 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: I didn't really go to get all this stuff from 53 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: my front porch, although I was like, I'm gonna look 54 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: at the fall stuff. I went to get a list 55 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: of things like Q tips, a new loofah, a basket 56 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: for a gift that I'm giving somebody, doodorant and Patrick 57 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: sent me this list. I got there, I got my Starbucks, 58 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: and in the line, the person before me and after 59 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: me both ordered a pumpkin spice latte, which maybe that 60 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: like clicked on for me. Oh it's fall. You need 61 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: a new doormat, you need a new wreath. You need 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: a lantern that is overpriced next to your door that 63 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: you can put a fake candle that is always also overpriced. 64 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it was, because then I totally aborted 65 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: the mission and I got home and I was like, 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's about four or five things on that 67 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: list that I did not buy because I got sidetracked. 68 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: I will say I think that happens to more people 69 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: than it doesn't happen too, because Target has a way 70 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: of sucking you in and keeping you there for far 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: longer than you meant to be there, and then you 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: not even getting accomplished what you went there to get accomplished. 73 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm not mad about it, though, because it was actually 74 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: a really pleasant afternoon of me just walking back and 75 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: forth through the aisles anyway back to the Starbucks line. 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: That was the point of me bringing up Target. These 77 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: people were getting pumpkin spice lattes. It also was like 78 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: ninety degrees outside. But then I was today on Psychology 79 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: Today and an article popped up on the homepage that 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: said the pumpkin spice phenomenon Science explains the fall frenzy, 81 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I need to know this because 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: I actually do not like pumpkin spice lattes. I don't 83 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: like anything that is flavored like pumpkin, but I do 84 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: like pumpkin spice candles. However, in the summer and like 85 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: the hot months, if I smell a pumpkin spice candle, 86 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: it almost makes me nauseous. So I was like, wait 87 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: a second, I would like to know more. Tell me 88 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: the science behind this. And so this article that is 89 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: written by a therapist. Her name is Claudia scowl sco 90 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: run sc Aron. I'll link everything so you can see 91 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: her name and how it's actually spelled, and you can 92 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: read the article yourself. But in the beginning of the article, 93 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: she said, so what makes pumpkin spice specifically so desirable? 94 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: And even addicting, this article says, it's not just about 95 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: the flavor, but it does start there, and this is wild. 96 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: The article says, many will argue that the pumpkin spice 97 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: flavor itself is delicious. Ironically, most pumpkin spices have next 98 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: to no pumpkin in them, but are mostly the toppings 99 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: added to a pumpkin pie. The sugar, the cinnamon, the nutmeg, 100 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: ginger cloves. So let's look at a few of these ingredients. 101 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: So one sugar, Okay, we know that's delicious on its own. 102 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who doesn't actually like the taste 103 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: of sweetness. Now, people might have a difference in the 104 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: level of sweetness or how much, But okay, we know 105 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: that that's delicious. Cinnamon, did you know that it's an 106 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: aphrodisiac and is known to relax muscles and increase sexual desire. 107 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: Then we have nutmeg, another aphrodisiac, and also another study 108 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: said that nutmeg demonstrated anti to present like effects. So 109 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: three ingredients. We understand why those are so delicious. But 110 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: the most interesting part about that is it's not really 111 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: the pumpkin. It's the spices that people add to pumpkin pie, 112 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: which I guess pumpkin spice. But where's the pumpkin? People 113 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: are like, I love pumpkin flavored things, do you or 114 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: do you like pumpkin pie flavored things? Because pumpkin pie 115 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: spice is a spice that you can buy. I have 116 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: it in my pantry and I don't know why because 117 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: I've never made a pumpkin pie. Anyway. That was the 118 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: first thing that this author said adds to the frenzy. 119 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Here's the second thing, and I think this is actually 120 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: maybe more important than the first. They write well, I 121 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: actually said this. What may even be a stronger than 122 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: its actual taste is pumpkin spice's desirability due to it's scarcity. 123 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Social psychology tells us that once something is limited supply, seasonal, 124 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: or for a short time only, it's desirability increases. This 125 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: can lead also to a bandwagon effect. It's human nature 126 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: to want to be part of something. If everyone's doing it, 127 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: I want to be part of the group and do 128 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: that too. People want to feel relevant, involved in part 129 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: of the conversation. So that describes why people jump on 130 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: this drink because it's so popular. People want to be 131 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: part of the popular thing. We know from years and 132 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: years of research and personal experience from being a human 133 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: that we are driven to the group. We are driven 134 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: to what everybody else is doing, or sometimes the exact 135 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: opposite if we like to push that narrative. But what 136 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: this article is saying is one of the most desirable 137 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: parts of pumpkin spice lattes or pumpkin spice scandals or 138 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: whatever it is, is that it's only available for a 139 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: short time, so if you want it, you got to 140 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: get it now, which makes it sound special, which makes 141 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: people want it. And if a lot of people are 142 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: wanting it, then that means it's special, and that means 143 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: more people are going to want it because we want 144 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: to be part of that special thing. And then she 145 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: goes on to the third thing that creates a frenzy 146 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: around pumpkin spice being the influence of season. Why do 147 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: people love fall so much? Because pumpkin and pumpkin spice, 148 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: that is part of fall. And you know what fall actually, 149 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: now that I think about it, it's like the most 150 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: fanatic season. Yes we love summer, we get to go 151 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: on vacation. Yes we love Christmas. It's also cozy in 152 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: their holidays and Christmas movies. And yes we love spring, 153 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: bright flowers and all that. But people go crazy for fall. 154 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: And why Well, fall is associated with coziness, flannel, warm, 155 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: fuzzy socks, comfort, All those things are involved in fall, 156 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: where winter might be more like frigid. Fall is like that, Oh, 157 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: I put on this cute sweater and some boots in 158 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 1: this cute scarf that's actually just for my outfit. I 159 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: don't really need it because it's negative twenty degrees outside. 160 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: We are drawn to that, we want that, we crave that. 161 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: It also is a time of greater stability and predictability 162 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: regarding our schedules. So we're going from summer, which is 163 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: pretty chaotic. People are taking off, going on trips, doing that. 164 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: We have a summer schedule at work, people aren't there 165 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: all the time, and then fall comes and things go 166 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: back to normal. School starts back up, football season starts, 167 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: so we know what we're doing every single weekend. There 168 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: are certain things, certain holidays and break set up that 169 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: we know when everybody's going on vacation together versus three 170 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: months of people doing it randomly. And again, we're moving 171 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: from summer, which is hot, and that can also add 172 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: to feeling lethargic, or also we're feeling chaotic because of 173 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: the trips. Maybe we don't want to go outside because 174 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: it's so hot. I know this weekend, I was like, 175 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: if I'm not in a pool, I cannot be outside 176 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: because it is ninety degrees outside. Well, then we move 177 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: into fall, which is this much more mild, approachable, desirable temperature, 178 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: and so then we desire that season and we look 179 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: at that season as more desirable, and then we look 180 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: at the things that are associated with that season, one 181 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: being pumpkin spice. When I think about fall, and I 182 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: view like a collage. I'm gonna put a pumpkin on there, 183 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put a cup of It's gonna be 184 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: a vanilla latte for me, because again I don't like 185 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: pumpkin spice or apple you know what, apple cider, because 186 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: that is what I used to get before I liked 187 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: coffee at Starbucks. I wanted to be part of the 188 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: group that went to Starbucks, and so I would get 189 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: and a cinnamon apple spice. I think it's called I 190 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: don't even know if they still have it, but I 191 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: would put that up there, and apple orchard, all of 192 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: those things that are associated with fall. So then I'm 193 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: craving those things in the fall and added into this 194 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: and the article talks about this as well. As we 195 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: transition into the season, it's leading us into nostalgia of 196 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: this season, to what feels good in our memories. Like 197 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: I just said that memory of the cinnamon apple spice, 198 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: I have a cozy feeling, a warm feeling when I 199 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: think about that, and the same when we think about 200 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,239 Speaker 1: these pumpkin spice lattes, when I think about the crisp 201 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: dewey as this article mentions, cooler mornings, I think about 202 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: going through Starbucks and getting a hot drink that warms 203 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: me up a little bit. And because pumpkin spice lattes 204 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: are only available in the fall, I might be more 205 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: drawn to get that because it's a limited supply and 206 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: I can't always have it, so that makes me want 207 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: it more. But a lot of the pumpkin spice is 208 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: the just nostalgia of what goes along with the season 209 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: versus the actual flavor of it. Would I be drinking 210 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: this if it was available all year round, or would 211 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: it be as good if it wasn't associated with these 212 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: other things that feel cozy? I don't know. We might 213 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: want to ask Starbucks to do a experiment with us. 214 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't think they would agree to it, but it 215 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: would be interesting and I think we could probably predict 216 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: what happened. So if you are wondering why you're so 217 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: obsessed with pumpkin spice lattes and you don't even like 218 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: pumpkin one very habit, there's really not any pumpkin in it. Two, 219 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: it's more about the nostalgia in the scarcity than the 220 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: actual product itself, which people could are You know, I 221 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: really really like it. It's what you might really like it, 222 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: and part of why we like it is the nostalgia. 223 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: It's also a reason why there's certain foods that I 224 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: love so much. Is it really that my mom makes 225 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: the best chicken noodle soup in the world, or is 226 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: it the nostalgia that when I was sick, my mom 227 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: would make me chicken noodle soup and bring it to me. 228 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I think my mom's chicken noodle soup 229 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: it's really good. But I can't answer that question without 230 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: a bias because I have the nostalgia of it. And 231 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: you can think about that with other things, like does 232 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: your grandma make the best cookies in the world or 233 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: is it the nostalgia if you going to your grandma's, 234 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: you can only have those cookies when you're with her, 235 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: and you also have the memories of what it was 236 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: like to go to her house and see them, or 237 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: go to her house and make them with her. That 238 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: adds to the flavor. Our brain and the way we 239 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: perceive things adds to the flavor and how we experience 240 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: them in real time, which is so interesting and so 241 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed this little fun mix up 242 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: of couch Talks as much as I did. You know, 243 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I think the pumpkin spice like came out like last 244 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: week or something. So if you were wondering why did 245 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: I get up at five am and run to Starbucks today, 246 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: it was available even though it was one hundred degrees outside, 247 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, I might have answered your question and you're welcome. 248 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: If you have any questions you would like me to 249 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: talk about or answer on couch Talks, feel free to 250 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: email those to meet Katherine at UNI Therapy podcast dot com. 251 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: You can follow me Cat dot defada on Instagram and 252 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: at UNI Therapy Podcast. Also at three Quarts Therapy, which 253 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: is my therapy practice where I and three other wonderful 254 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: therapists work and do actual counseling and therapy, not the podcast. 255 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: Every single day. I hope you guys are having the 256 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: day you need to have, and I hope you are 257 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: having the pumpkin spice latte that you need to have 258 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: as well on this day, or the apple spice apple cinnamon, 259 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: what is it? Cinnamon apple spice. I really think that's 260 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: what it's called. And I hope they still offer it 261 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: because I might be going to get that because I 262 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: have to go back to Target and return some of 263 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: the stuff I box. I didn't all work, you know 264 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: which my bank account is very happy for. Anyway, I'm 265 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: gonna get myself an Apple Spice and talk to you 266 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:46,479 Speaker 1: guys on Monday. Bye.