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Speaker 2: All right, guys, welcome back Arnalisia Cali. This Hometown Heroes edition.
Speaker 2: Actually fact, I believe our guess is from the great
Speaker 2: city of Compton, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, come, this.
Speaker 2: Is something that I personally have been looking forward to
Speaker 2: for a while. I've checked this gentleman out online, been
Speaker 2: following him online, and just a lot of clips that
Speaker 2: he puts out, different interviews and things of that nature.
Speaker 2: Just a real sharp, very sharp young man and articulates
Speaker 2: himself very well and speaks very fast.
Speaker 3: Start speeding, I'll tell you when he starts speeding up.
Speaker 4: Hold on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so's it's pretty dope to watch on Instagram. So
Speaker 2: the the gentleman that I'm talking about is we'sa Islam
Speaker 2: and he's an activist. He's an author, humanitarian, social media influencer,
Speaker 2: all of the above, entrepreneur and just a very dynamic guy.
Speaker 2: So I reached he actually reached out to him a
Speaker 2: couple of months ago, he just but it was perfect timing.
Speaker 2: Now everything happened. Ever, So, as you guys know, we're
Speaker 2: in California for the month and we've been getting nothing
Speaker 2: but love, great treatment out here, and this might be
Speaker 2: the last interview that we actually do, so it's a fitting.
Speaker 2: It's fitting. So I'm very yeah, shout out to Cali man.
Speaker 2: So I'm very excited to have this conversation. We're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about a variety of different things in regards to economics.
Speaker 2: So first and foremost, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Yes, again, like I said, it would have
Speaker 4: been you know, sooner. But like you said, you know,
Speaker 4: it all happens for a reason. I'm just thankful to
Speaker 4: be here. Man. That's a fact. That's a fact. So
Speaker 4: let's let's let's kick it off. You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Because our platform is based on you know, economics, finances,
Speaker 2: business and a friend of mine shout out to Val
Speaker 2: She's actually one of the people that inspired me to
Speaker 2: get into social media, and she was she was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you are aware of this, but
Speaker 2: there's a whole movement on black Twitter about how black
Speaker 2: capitalism is actually bad and it's not good. And she
Speaker 2: was like, I want I don't want your platform to
Speaker 2: not get ahead of this curve, like at the very least,
Speaker 2: y'all should address it. And I'm like, all right, you know,
Speaker 2: we're open source platform. We don't really take opinions. We
Speaker 2: get people different and I'm like, you know, I thought
Speaker 2: about it. I'm like, I personally might not subscribe to that,
Speaker 2: but let me let me hear. Let me ask, so
Speaker 2: are you familiar with that sentiment and what are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on black capitalism?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'll say this first of all, capitalism is capitalism.
Speaker 4: That's just, you know, plain and clear all the way
Speaker 4: around the ward. But I'm not too familiar with it.
Speaker 4: I do know when it comes to capitalism and using
Speaker 4: the leverage of society for economic gains, depending on what
Speaker 4: it is, products, business, et cetera, it has ups and downs.
Speaker 4: I know that. I know capitalism has been used for
Speaker 4: the majority in the negative way as it pertains to
Speaker 4: our people when it comes to what has been done
Speaker 4: to our people on the part of major businesses and corporation.
Speaker 4: So I know that. But then again, it can be used,
Speaker 4: you know, in a good way, in a beneficial way,
Speaker 4: but it depends upon how you do it, and it
Speaker 4: has to be based on integrity and really caring for
Speaker 4: the people more than money, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, that's I'll leave it at that. That's pretty
Speaker 4: much all I can say on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I feel I kind of feel like
Speaker 2: it's everything in life is a balance. And you know,
Speaker 2: we talk about capitalism, socialism. I think there's good and
Speaker 2: bad parts of everything, but I mean we're in a
Speaker 2: capitalistic society, whether we hate it.
Speaker 4: And love it.
Speaker 2: So I mean it's kind of like either participate or
Speaker 2: sit on the sideline, but the game is still going
Speaker 2: to be played.
Speaker 4: That's not how you use it, all right.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, because a lot of people,
Speaker 2: I think speak about things that they might hear and
Speaker 2: they don't really have a full understanding. Like me personally,
Speaker 2: I never really like to talk about stuff that I
Speaker 2: don't have a full understanding of. A I don't want
Speaker 2: to just embarrass myself and be. I don't want to
Speaker 2: spread false information. But you actually you're you're a very
Speaker 2: knowledgeable guy.
Speaker 4: I can tell you read a lot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, So when we talk about these things as
Speaker 2: far as the I m F and the international monetary
Speaker 2: system and different banks and things of that nature, can
Speaker 2: you give us a.
Speaker 4: Se it's getting heated. Can you give.
Speaker 2: Us an education on what that because, like you said,
Speaker 2: you see that a lot. I see that a lot
Speaker 2: on social media and a lot of conspiracy theories. And
Speaker 2: you know, I'm one of these people where I kind
Speaker 2: of I hate conspiracy theories, but some of them are true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like, it's just it is what it is.
Speaker 2: So how does that affect the day to day, average
Speaker 2: working class person who's not at the top of the mountain.
Speaker 2: As far as economics, I'll say this first of all
Speaker 2: at this time, because we are in the age of information,
Speaker 2: which is again, like you said, things have to be balanced.
Speaker 4: There's a good and there's a bad, extremely on both ends.
Speaker 4: Now when it comes to this, because now people are
Speaker 4: literally living their lives based upon what they need. Fact,
Speaker 4: they're gonna run outside, Okay, so COVID, All right, COVID
Speaker 4: If I run outside, button naked. You're gonna have somebody
Speaker 4: doing this and this is real talk. This is all
Speaker 4: dangerous thing. So you got to be careful everybody with
Speaker 4: what you post. First of all. Secondly, there are conspiracy
Speaker 4: documentarians Okay, that's a shout out to doctor West Mohaman,
Speaker 4: people who actually have the documented evidence to back up
Speaker 4: what they're talking about. I'm more so on that area, okay,
Speaker 4: where we were with the conspiracy documents, where with the
Speaker 4: realist when it comes to what's really going on. But
Speaker 4: we stick away from all the conspiracy theories. I can
Speaker 4: sift through them. Trust me when I say there are
Speaker 4: so many, there's there's there's so many you want to
Speaker 4: never get out of.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's crazy. So be careful with.
Speaker 3: Which I'm only saying it because we encountered one like
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago and it was just like, Yo,
Speaker 3: where where did you get this from? And I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, now we'll talk. I put it this way.
Speaker 4: Conspiracy theorists pretty much, if they can cause controversy, can
Speaker 4: grab attention, they will. These are people who want to
Speaker 4: see they were the truth secrets for the majority. Some
Speaker 4: of them can go extremely overboard, wearing aluminum caps all day,
Speaker 4: you know, looking at you like, you know, are you
Speaker 4: a human, You're a reptilian? You know what, you're clone
Speaker 4: your clones. So and when you go into that realm,
Speaker 4: it really doesn't matter what color you are, black, white, whatever.
Speaker 4: People are just really in that realm. So I'll say,
Speaker 4: be very careful of who you're listening to, and if
Speaker 4: you are a person with a large platform, be careful
Speaker 4: about fact check. Fact check at least five times. You
Speaker 4: want to cross reference and cross reference and cross reference
Speaker 4: and cross reference. And now that that's another thing. When
Speaker 4: it comes to facts, you gotta make sure you cross
Speaker 4: reference things because sometimes things can sound really believable, bro,
Speaker 4: and depending on who says it, it can sound very convincing.
Speaker 4: We're charismatic and I saw it yesterday. I saw it.
Speaker 4: You know it's like, okay, I gotta believe them. It's
Speaker 4: like no, no, no, no, no. Check it for yourself,
Speaker 4: because if you have influence over people, you will literally
Speaker 4: control their lives. And if they go out and do
Speaker 4: something they hurt themselves, that's on your hands. I mean, really,
Speaker 4: we gotta be responsible. So just be careful with the
Speaker 4: conspiracy theories, but check things. You know, don't be what
Speaker 4: mens far Khan calls a lazy learner. Don't be a
Speaker 4: surface learn If you really want to learn about that,
Speaker 4: you want to post it, okay, go go take an
Speaker 4: extra twenty thirty minutes and really fact check it. If
Speaker 4: you're gonna post it, don't just post it to get
Speaker 4: some damn views and likes. See all, we got to
Speaker 4: stop being holes for likes. Yeah, not being holes for likes.
Speaker 4: We've heard worse, be heard worse. It's real. Got we
Speaker 4: gotta really pull away from that because that's really what
Speaker 4: it is today.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: People just those likes and views, and and also a
Speaker 4: lot of people sincerely want to help. That's another thing.
Speaker 4: A lot of celebrities, a lot of y'all just starting
Speaker 4: to step into being an intellectual. So you're learning, and
Speaker 4: so you're really like, man, I want to help my
Speaker 4: people who are following my ten, my twenty, my thirty
Speaker 4: million followers, But be careful. I've seen some stuff from
Speaker 4: certain artists and celebrities and I was like, what the
Speaker 4: hell did you just post? And I'll be like, if
Speaker 4: I can get in touch with them, I will know,
Speaker 4: because that's what you're supposed to be. Just publicly, Basha.
Speaker 4: That's another thing. Oh y'all saw this, crazy niggas.
Speaker 3: When they call you on the private line, you can.
Speaker 4: Reach out to them personally because they may not know.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of celebrities, brother, who come to me
Speaker 4: for consulting about things because they really didn't know. And
Speaker 4: I tell them, no, no, no, that's that's not that's
Speaker 4: not true. Let me seeing you the facts on that,
Speaker 4: and then they see it they're like, oh, man, I
Speaker 4: was about to make a big mistake on that one,
Speaker 4: you know. So we have to we have to have
Speaker 4: enough love for one another to make sure we put
Speaker 4: out what is proper, what's right, what's factual, and with
Speaker 4: solutions preferably if you can. If there's another problem, you're
Speaker 4: gonna post post it with a solution if you can.
Speaker 4: Because that's another thing everybody right now, we know all
Speaker 4: the damn problems in the world. Bro, It's so many
Speaker 4: negative things going on, but we need some positive to
Speaker 4: go with it, like you said, to keep that balance.
Speaker 4: So the IMF, what's to deal with that International Monetary Fund? Okay,
Speaker 4: so here we go, y'all. Some of y'all know about
Speaker 4: this no manterary of fund you're talking about the organization
Speaker 4: that funds countries. They give loans out to countries and
Speaker 4: they basically enslave countries. This is pretty much what they do.
Speaker 4: So they say, listen, uh, you know, it's kind of
Speaker 4: like a it's like a rich pimp organization. I'm going
Speaker 4: to say it like that. It's not slanger damn, it's
Speaker 4: what it is. So they go in loan money and
Speaker 4: they say, this is your lump sum here, pay it
Speaker 4: back and increments of this amount, you know, every year,
Speaker 4: every month or whatever, and this is what you can
Speaker 4: use for whatever, you know, building your economy, building this
Speaker 4: your businesses et cetera, to stimulate it whatever. And that's
Speaker 4: what they do. The issue is when they put a
Speaker 4: high level of interest on these things that is impossible
Speaker 4: for these countries to pay back. Now as a part
Speaker 4: of the agreements, that they default or if they break
Speaker 4: the agreement, then there are other options that kick in. Okay, well,
Speaker 4: we can take control of your ports, we can take
Speaker 4: control of your airports, we can take control of this
Speaker 4: or that if you default on the loan. You see
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. This is this is the criminal stuff
Speaker 4: that they do, and they've done it to countries or
Speaker 4: all throughout Africa and all throughout the world. They know
Speaker 4: what they're doing, you know, them, along with the other
Speaker 4: banks and national banks and who loan money at high
Speaker 4: interests to control foreign nations and foreign leaders, to get
Speaker 4: them under the control and under the umbrella of those
Speaker 4: who they control. So then you'll see other countries and
Speaker 4: nations doing some craziest hell stuff to their citizens and
Speaker 4: to their people in order. But it's like it's not them.
Speaker 4: They're being controlled and now the people who owned them
Speaker 4: are now writing their policies. Do you understand I'm saying,
Speaker 4: that's the power behind economics. You gotta understand what's going on.
Speaker 4: And you'd have to be like Fidel Castro in Cuba.
Speaker 4: You have to stand on integrity and say I'd rather
Speaker 4: not take nothing from you and stand on integrity for
Speaker 4: my people. He was willing to do that, and of
Speaker 4: course America put sanctions on them, wouldn't allow the countries
Speaker 4: to help them. They're still recycling cars from the sixties and.
Speaker 3: The seventies broke fact, they're still doing that.
Speaker 4: They're like, hold on, don't throw that away. What you doing?
Speaker 4: We could put that here, don't don't you know, it's
Speaker 4: a serious thing because they have that much integrity. We
Speaker 4: will not be pimped. We will not be enslaved, you know,
Speaker 4: for a foreign nation that does not have our interest,
Speaker 4: our best interest. So you know, that's that's really what
Speaker 4: the IMF does and what it is. Has it done
Speaker 4: some good. I'm sure it has done some good. The
Speaker 4: issues that we have people at that level. It's usually
Speaker 4: backed by special interest groups who have a wicked intent
Speaker 4: and they have demonstrated that in what they do to
Speaker 4: our countries.
Speaker 3: It's a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now in a nutshell much. Make sure you study more.
Speaker 4: There's a lot more information to learn about it.
Speaker 2: But definitely, and it sounds I'm interested to get your
Speaker 2: take on what you said. A lot sounds like what
Speaker 2: China is currently doing all over the world. And it's
Speaker 2: interesting because we've all we spoke about China, especially like
Speaker 2: what they're doing in Africa and the Caribbean. But we
Speaker 2: spoke to an entrepreneur in Nigeria, like he's actually lives
Speaker 2: in Nigeria, and I asked him, like, you know, what's
Speaker 2: your thoughts on it. He's like, honestly, you know, China's
Speaker 2: doing what's in the best interest of China. But it's
Speaker 2: business at the end of the day. It's not like
Speaker 2: nobody's coming and putting a gun to anybody's head and
Speaker 2: making them do this and things of that nature. So
Speaker 2: they was like, you know, we have to you know,
Speaker 2: kind of have some accountability leadership and the public and
Speaker 2: things that nature. So how do you feel about it,
Speaker 2: because that's another hot topic as far as China.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you said that. As it pertains to what
Speaker 4: the brother who lives Nigeria said, because a lot of
Speaker 4: the leaders have been bought out, it's nothing that people
Speaker 4: really got to understand when they say, well, China, China, China.
Speaker 4: It's like hold on. First of all, many of the
Speaker 4: African leaders have been bought out. They have literally taken
Speaker 4: the money from China, just like they took money from America,
Speaker 4: just like they took money from other nations Europe, et cetera,
Speaker 4: to allow them to come in and do whatever it
Speaker 4: is they want to do with the different agreements, whatever
Speaker 4: those agreements may be. The issue is that many people
Speaker 4: in Africa, and I meet with a lot of them.
Speaker 4: I've been awarded by a number of African organizations, international
Speaker 4: organizations for my humanitarian work or my activism. They tell
Speaker 4: me to my face, they say, brother, brother, brother, you
Speaker 4: need to understand that a lot of our leaders have
Speaker 4: sold out. They have and they hate it. Brother. They're like,
Speaker 4: we do our best to stand as a people, to
Speaker 4: stand as you know, I'm Zimbabwean or I'm Gyananian or
Speaker 4: I'm Nigerian. But then some of them are just like, well,
Speaker 4: this is a new world. It's a new time. You know,
Speaker 4: it's a new time. You know, if they want to
Speaker 4: come in and give us money, fine, they don't look
Speaker 4: at the fact that you can pull your resources together.
Speaker 4: You live, you have the wealth under your feet. You
Speaker 4: see what I'm saying. You can access that and you
Speaker 4: can use it independently to work with your other African
Speaker 4: brothers in African nations. But again, because you have a
Speaker 4: outside foreign power that has come in and has divided
Speaker 4: you from one another, has come in usurp your power,
Speaker 4: killed your leaders, put in CIA agents in the place
Speaker 4: of certain leaders. This is America's foreign policy. Because that
Speaker 4: also has a lot to do with economics. You definitely
Speaker 4: want to look at that. You have to read a
Speaker 4: book by the name of the Confessions of an Economic
Speaker 4: hit Man, where they talk about how they set up
Speaker 4: coops to get rid of Oh yeah, they do that.
Speaker 4: Did it with Libya, They did it with Iraq, they
Speaker 4: did any nation that does not agree with the foreign
Speaker 4: policies to allow them to have access to the wealthy.
Speaker 4: Colonel Kadafi, Oh yeah, Colonel Momafi. Can you talk about that, sir? No,
Speaker 4: that's sorry. See whatever you need, brother, I'm just saying
Speaker 4: you're ready for it. I'll say it again this way.
Speaker 4: The African leaders who have not sold out, we thank you,
Speaker 4: stan strong brothers, because I know a lot of you
Speaker 4: who follow my network and this network and other networks.
Speaker 4: You're watching, you listening. You have to maintain integrity and
Speaker 4: as far as con said, stand strong. Stand strong. If
Speaker 4: you must die on that, then you must down that.
Speaker 4: But stand strong for the people, for Africa, for the nation,
Speaker 4: for us as a diaspora to not sell out to
Speaker 4: this enemy, because they do not have our best interests
Speaker 4: at hand. They don't. They don't care about us. That's
Speaker 4: the point. China has their own interests. Like you said,
Speaker 4: it's China, and that's business. You agree to it. It's business,
Speaker 4: So I can't argue with that. However, a lot of
Speaker 4: nations in Africa. Now, a lot of countries are now
Speaker 4: the rethinking that. Now they're trying to come out of deals. Now,
Speaker 4: they're trying to figure out a way to get around it. Like, okay,
Speaker 4: you know, we didn't read this section of this part
Speaker 4: of this subsectionments like a record contract.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, you know them three sixty d they
Speaker 3: got for the country.
Speaker 4: Lawyer. Two years later you're like, no, did you know
Speaker 4: about that?
Speaker 3: My country back.
Speaker 4: Got me. I didn't know that. Bringing that that independent
Speaker 4: what it's called audit those auditors. So that's what's happening now.
Speaker 4: But again, if we stand strong, if you make the
Speaker 4: agreements with China, you're going to have to go along
Speaker 4: with the agreement or find a way to get out
Speaker 4: of it. But we have to stand strong as the people.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, we must do for
Speaker 4: self or some of the consequences. We have the power,
Speaker 4: we have the wealth. We just need the unity. That's
Speaker 4: all we need. Okay. So that's all I really got
Speaker 4: to say on that, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: a lot of those countries really did get involved willingly,
Speaker 4: and that's the issue. And I'm not saying I'm not
Speaker 4: saying anything negative about China because it's business. And I
Speaker 4: will never say China is worse than America. So let's
Speaker 4: never get that twists people like China China. I stop it.
Speaker 4: We're still done with stuff America right now, from Breonna
Speaker 4: Taylor all the way down as being murdered. China ain't
Speaker 4: out here killing black folk. Okay, all right, so let's
Speaker 4: just make that clear. But in everybody else when it
Speaker 4: comes to that type of situation. But Libya, now, are
Speaker 4: you sure you want to go into that just I
Speaker 4: mean it is economics, brother, there was. I mean he
Speaker 4: did a beautiful job, you know, Colonel will Margadafi may
Speaker 4: I lobby. Please. First of all, I don't listen to
Speaker 4: Western media about foreign leaders. That's the first thing. I
Speaker 4: don't listen to what America has to say about a
Speaker 4: Libyan leader, America has to say about a Mexican leader,
Speaker 4: Hawaiian leader, Chinese, because again, America has their own interests,
Speaker 4: just like China has their own. Everyone has their own,
Speaker 4: So I'd rather listen to their media because they do
Speaker 4: have media. Some of y'all don't know Africa has buildings.
Speaker 4: They're still living in huts, brother Hudson, stop showing them
Speaker 4: commercials with the little children with the stomach, so I
Speaker 4: would flies on them. Dollar bro the technology. I mean,
Speaker 4: come on. So I had to say that because people
Speaker 4: really be tripped. But in Libya under Colonel Mulmakadafi, it
Speaker 4: was free. Wow, that's the old song there is. There
Speaker 4: was free health care, there was free education. When you
Speaker 4: got married, he would give the family anywhere between five
Speaker 4: to twenty five thousand dollars for getting married. If you
Speaker 4: wanted to till land and grow your own food, would
Speaker 4: give you a tractor, give you seeds and give you
Speaker 4: a certain plot of land for you to grow your
Speaker 4: own food. If you wanted to go to school in
Speaker 4: a foreign nation or to another country, go abroad, Libya
Speaker 4: would sponsor that. They would pay for your room on board,
Speaker 4: they would pay for the tuition, and whatever country you
Speaker 4: went to. All of these things America ain't knowing as
Speaker 4: a country, as a country free, free, and I'm not
Speaker 4: saying that free, horrible free, good healthcare. Before Colonel moulmagadav
Speaker 4: he took over the leadership of Libya, it was the
Speaker 4: poorest country. After he took over the leadership and started
Speaker 4: to work on it, it became the most wealthy country
Speaker 4: in Africa had zero debt. It owed no one the
Speaker 4: I m F. He didn't know any other foreign countries,
Speaker 4: European countries. No, they were free of debt, debt free.
Speaker 4: See that right there. That lets me know. Ah, no
Speaker 4: one A they attacked him, called him a dictator. You know,
Speaker 4: so he's a horrible this is and horrible that. But
Speaker 4: wait a minute, he's doing for his people what America
Speaker 4: claims she's doing for her. You're not doing any of this.
Speaker 4: You're not even doing a thirtieth of what they're doing.
Speaker 4: So it's like, how can you be so hypocritical to
Speaker 4: even try to open your mouth and talk about a
Speaker 4: leader over there who's actually giving his people these different
Speaker 4: things that you say you're giving yours. Not that's not
Speaker 4: how it goes. So he built it into an economic
Speaker 4: power that was independent, and he was gonna come together
Speaker 4: with the other over fifty three countries in Africa to
Speaker 4: create a joint currency African Union and African Union, which
Speaker 4: I mean, bro, when you're talking about money and economics,
Speaker 4: that is the most powerful move that could have ever
Speaker 4: been done on the planet. Because then he would have
Speaker 4: removed they would bankrupt the European pound, they would bankrupt
Speaker 4: the American dollar, they will bankrupt the Chinese you n
Speaker 4: they bankrupt every other former currency because you are backing
Speaker 4: your wealth based off of the mineral resources underneath your feet.
Speaker 4: And Africa got all of them. Everybody gonna bow down
Speaker 4: to the African currency. And it was like, hell no,
Speaker 4: we're not gonna do that. Hell no, we're not gonna
Speaker 4: do that. We are not gonna have no niggas on
Speaker 4: no paper. And you go, I'm gonna have to use that.
Speaker 4: I'm just being real, Okay, we're not We're not gonna
Speaker 4: have that, you know. And again because a lot of
Speaker 4: people know about this, but a lot of people didn't,
Speaker 4: and that we don't understand that when it comes to
Speaker 4: economics and money, color becomes less important. At the top.
Speaker 4: There's some black people who's helping to push evil, there's
Speaker 4: some Arabs doing it, there's some Chinese, there's some white.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people at the top, and that
Speaker 4: color line becomes less important. It becomes power.
Speaker 2: Now in a different language than you said the same message, appreciate,
Speaker 2: He said the same thing, exact thing.
Speaker 4: Power only respects power. So if I got a billion
Speaker 4: and you got a billion, we can sit at the table.
Speaker 4: But if I'm black and you white, okay, well it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: well we want to buy this right about your color?
Speaker 4: Right now? Even if I did, it don't matter.
Speaker 3: Were talking about money, talking about some money, exactly know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. This was a history lesson, So speaking
Speaker 3: of economics, because I suppose you prior to this, but
Speaker 3: can we talk about the internal banking families of Europe?
Speaker 3: Can we give a history of that? And so that
Speaker 3: when when I talked about the young gentlemen who came,
Speaker 3: he was speaking about some some theories they came up,
Speaker 3: and I was just like, that's interesting because I've never
Speaker 3: heard him talk like that before. And maybe you know,
Speaker 3: he doesn't have all the knowledge, So can you enlighten
Speaker 3: us all?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I'll give a little bit here. First
Speaker 4: of all, people try to argue and say that it
Speaker 4: is a conspiracy theory when you are talking about David Rockefeller,
Speaker 4: when you're talking about the Federal Reserve Act of nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 4: This is actual fact. There's nothing, there's no theoretical anything
Speaker 4: behind it. They met off the coast of Jecky Island
Speaker 4: of Georgia. They met off the coast on a small island.
Speaker 4: You're talking about David Rockefeller and some other individuals to
Speaker 4: come up with a way where they could take control
Speaker 4: over the monetary policies of America. The Federal Reserve has
Speaker 4: nothing to do with the United States Constitution. It states
Speaker 4: in the United States Constitution that Congress shall hold the
Speaker 4: right to print the money, and so forth and so on.
Speaker 4: But who is the Federal Reserve. They have nothing to
Speaker 4: do with America. They are a gangster group, a third
Speaker 4: party who came in and they took over these banking
Speaker 4: systems from Europe, and then they gradually moved into the
Speaker 4: rest of the planet. By the time they got to America,
Speaker 4: that's when nineteen thirteen came along with the passing of
Speaker 4: the Federal Reserve Act. And once that happened, all of
Speaker 4: the power to print money, coin, money, etc. Turned over
Speaker 4: into the Federal Reserve, and no longer Congress. It used
Speaker 4: to say a silver certificate at the top of the dollar.
Speaker 4: It said silver certificate, meaning oh, this is back by
Speaker 4: silver okay, or it was back by goal okay. But
Speaker 4: then it switched to Federal Reserve. Note what the hell
Speaker 4: does that mean? And now the money system is not
Speaker 4: under the people, it's not under Congress, it's not under
Speaker 4: our control per se. It's under the control of a
Speaker 4: third party gangster group organization that uses it to control
Speaker 4: and enslave the planet. That's what that is about. Hence
Speaker 4: why the economy is so high. They use war to
Speaker 4: make money. But if they use the war to make money,
Speaker 4: then the dollar goes further into debt, therefore having less
Speaker 4: worth higher inflation. So what a dollar's worth today ain't nothing.
Speaker 4: It's nothing compared to what it was back then. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know America currently on Wall Street they're saying it's
Speaker 4: a little over twenty two to twenty three trillion dollars
Speaker 4: in debt. Well, no, that's not true. They're not adding
Speaker 4: in medicaid, medical all those things that illus that they
Speaker 4: have for all these other nations. America's over seventy trillion
Speaker 4: dollars in debt and it's growing every day. They're printing
Speaker 4: millions every day, which means you print more, the money
Speaker 4: becomes less and less and less and less and less valuable.
Speaker 4: That's why. Also people need to start looking at gold.
Speaker 4: Hence whid gold is so high right now? Yeah, this week,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying all the time, my silver
Speaker 4: is going up, even though some people say that I
Speaker 4: don't buy silver, But the pre nineteen thirty three silver
Speaker 4: coins in particular, you should be buying because those are
Speaker 4: worth about I think it costs about twenty three twenty
Speaker 4: five dollars per coin. So you want to get some
Speaker 4: of those. Why because the dollar brother is about to
Speaker 4: become completely obsolete. It's about to get to a point
Speaker 4: like it got over in Europe where they were having
Speaker 4: positive in the middle of the street. You know, it
Speaker 4: was burning, you know, smoking cigars, likely with the money.
Speaker 4: I know some of y'all like, man ain't going happened. Listen, bro,
Speaker 4: They're talking about this economic gap because of the pandemic.
Speaker 4: Nearly forty million people weren employed just a couple months
Speaker 4: ago in America. So you're gonna give a stimulus check
Speaker 4: to forty million people. You're not gonna give ten dollars
Speaker 4: to forty million people, you see what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: you're giving millions, billions trillions that you don't have to
Speaker 4: people who are not working, and then you shut it
Speaker 4: down again, which is why you know Trump and everyone
Speaker 4: else wanted to open it up they're like, listen it,
Speaker 4: it don't matter if people get sick. Either we going
Speaker 4: down hereonomically or were going down physically and health wise.
Speaker 4: We gotta choose one. So they'd rather open up the economy,
Speaker 4: let some people get sick and die, but to allow
Speaker 4: us the economy to thrive and survive, because it is
Speaker 4: upside down, you know what I'm saying, that's what it is.
Speaker 4: So but it all started again with the national banking
Speaker 4: families of Europe and then of course pushing for war
Speaker 4: to make more money, sending people to die. More war,
Speaker 4: more money, more interest, et cetera, et cetera, And that
Speaker 4: is what it has been since nine thirteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because a lot of people might not realize,
Speaker 2: like you said that the Federal Reserve Bank is not
Speaker 2: it's not it's not a government agency. It's just fed
Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's like FedEx, like like you
Speaker 2: would just automatically think it's it's federal and they print
Speaker 2: money and they so just by default you would think, okay,
Speaker 2: it's part of it's part of the government, but it's
Speaker 2: actually not part of the government at all at all.
Speaker 4: And it's interesting, not at all. Anybody who's dealing with economics.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is the show. Y'all watch
Speaker 4: you know, y'all watch these brothers. They give you a game.
Speaker 4: They give you as much game as possible. That was
Speaker 4: possibly some of the most important game they could give
Speaker 4: you is to understand the difference between the Federal Reserve
Speaker 4: and the government when it comes to money, the monetary system.
Speaker 4: That's why bigcoin is so important. Some people talk about
Speaker 4: that always that the economists in America will say, all
Speaker 4: consocrat because it's not controlled. It's a universal currency. You
Speaker 4: can't control it. You can transfer anywhere. They're like, uh no,
Speaker 4: it's bad because we want you to stick with the
Speaker 4: American dollar. That's gone. That's done for it. Okay, so
Speaker 4: now you have to look at other forms of currency
Speaker 4: and be very wise about looking at other currency, investing
Speaker 4: in other currency, and moving your money around. Really, I
Speaker 4: gotta start pulling your stuff out of the bank and
Speaker 4: the minute I ain't trying to go against what y'all
Speaker 4: don't know. Just say you thought you got on that,
Speaker 4: you know, you let me know, but be very mindful.
Speaker 4: Just understand that, you know, don't put all of your
Speaker 4: money in one location that is controlled by the Federal
Speaker 4: Reserve or any of its bank you know, you know what,
Speaker 4: you know what A.
Speaker 2: I don't know if people notice, but there's a shortage
Speaker 2: of coins. Yeah, that's interesting. And b Yeah the bank
Speaker 2: thing is interesting because it's like, all right, what's the
Speaker 2: odds of bank having not enough money? Until they don't
Speaker 2: have enough money? Because it's good in Greece. In Greece
Speaker 2: a few years ago they shut the banks down. They
Speaker 2: made a stop on ATM run because people was trying
Speaker 2: to So it's like theoretically, like if you have ten
Speaker 2: million dollars, the bank doesn't have ten million. That's why
Speaker 2: they only ensure two hundred and fifty thousand. So if
Speaker 2: you go, we dropped that, you literally yeah, you literally can't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the FDI c ensured, so you could literally only
Speaker 2: take up to a certain amount. And then they got
Speaker 2: to like actually order others because there's there's regional banks
Speaker 2: for the Federal Reserve like this, the Federal Reserve regional
Speaker 2: banks like Saint Louis, New York, LA. Like there's different regions,
Speaker 2: so they have to order the money. And then this
Speaker 2: is kind of a more involved conversation, but that kind
Speaker 2: of goes with the interest rates, right, because they charged
Speaker 2: the regular retail banks money to actually bother so when
Speaker 2: they lower their interest rates, when they raise the interest rates,
Speaker 2: it all comes into play.
Speaker 4: And making money off your money, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of the things that was I mean
Speaker 3: a lot of people said that to us, and hopefully
Speaker 3: people get the message. But like money is a tool
Speaker 3: to get assets, having it sitting in the bank does
Speaker 3: mean anything. I know, Like Fernando had told us that
Speaker 3: and it stuck with my mind when you just said that,
Speaker 3: it was like, Yo, every dollar is a worker to me,
Speaker 3: So I gotta put that on that work.
Speaker 4: To put it to work and let it make money
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: That's that's where the investments and the assets come in.
Speaker 4: Own something that builds and it's in its value and
Speaker 4: create and it's worth. That's what we have to look at. Again,
Speaker 4: most of the people in the hood y're like, look,
Speaker 4: I got forty dollars, bro for the next week. Fact,
Speaker 4: what can I do with this? That's why we have
Speaker 4: to now pull our resources. We don't have a choice, bro.
Speaker 4: We have to practice group economics. There is no choice here,
Speaker 4: There's none. Most of the people in the hood don't
Speaker 4: have two hundred dollars to stay family. And I know
Speaker 4: it may sound crazy for some people, it's like no, no, no, seriously,
Speaker 4: even the money that we do have, we're spending it
Speaker 4: in the wrong direction. But we have to now look at, Okay,
Speaker 4: what can we afford to put in the pot? Depending
Speaker 4: on what block we're on, depending on what hood we
Speaker 4: from the hoods, y'all gotta come together and start putting
Speaker 4: money in the pot. Whatever crib blood, hood essays, whatever,
Speaker 4: and start putting your dollars together so everyone can work
Speaker 4: a little and no one have to work a lot,
Speaker 4: and then you can start buying up things. You know,
Speaker 4: it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're the only people that have to
Speaker 2: be convinced about cooker economics because everything else. Because like
Speaker 2: I went to this Indian wedding a friend of mine
Speaker 2: Indian is my first comcod in Indian wedding. So it's
Speaker 2: a whole week experience. If you ever been to an
Speaker 2: Indian wedding, it's like and he will seek. So they
Speaker 2: had like a it was like a whole thing. So
Speaker 2: the whole So the long story short is like where
Speaker 2: he lives in New Jersey, Like that's where like the
Speaker 2: whole town is all seeks and they have an interesting
Speaker 2: thing where they own like motels. They're own like one
Speaker 2: hundred motels and yeah, and then like he was explaining
Speaker 2: to me the process. So it's like one person from
Speaker 2: India comes, they buy a hotel, then they send enough
Speaker 2: money for the next person to come, and then they
Speaker 2: work in the hotel. They learn the business of the hotel,
Speaker 2: and then the other people give them money to start
Speaker 2: their hotel. When they get enough money, they pay it
Speaker 2: back and then it's like a whole thing and that
Speaker 2: they just run it back again. So I see that
Speaker 2: in other cultures and it's just like it's interesting to
Speaker 2: me because that's group economics. But for us, it's still
Speaker 2: something that we kind of have to really be convinced
Speaker 2: and understand. So how do we how do we get
Speaker 2: away from from that mindset and really move in to
Speaker 2: make it normal, Like make group economics normal.
Speaker 4: It has to be promoted and it has to be
Speaker 4: it has to be talked about more by those of
Speaker 4: us practice it in a positive way. We gotta we
Speaker 4: gotta brag about that, like, yeah, bro, I put my
Speaker 4: family on like I said it this way. This book
Speaker 4: was edited, it was written by me black man. Then
Speaker 4: it was edited by black women. Then my product manager
Speaker 4: black women, which is my sister. Then her two sons
Speaker 4: they are employed as the packagers, so we employed them.
Speaker 4: Then I have my my mother, and I have I
Speaker 4: think two cousins who also work for me. I employed
Speaker 4: my own family. You know what I'm saying, Black women
Speaker 4: for the majority, but black people period. That's it. I said,
Speaker 4: I'm not about to employ nobody else. I'm employing my family.
Speaker 4: I'm anna free all up so that we can invest
Speaker 4: in each other and then we can go ahead and
Speaker 4: build on something else. And we are building on something
Speaker 4: else now, you know what I'm saying. That's how it's
Speaker 4: supposed to be. I'm not playing no games out there
Speaker 4: because a lot of black people in families who are
Speaker 4: doing this.
Speaker 3: It's great pride in that.
Speaker 4: Come on, bro, I'm gonna say it again. We're doing
Speaker 4: that right now.
Speaker 3: They have to be. You know.
Speaker 2: It's we don't trust each other, and we can still
Speaker 2: we can stimulate each other's economy even with us like so,
Speaker 2: they see me and Troy as the host of early Aleisia,
Speaker 2: but it's more than us. So we have Mike who
Speaker 2: does all of our technical stuff. We all grew up together.
Speaker 2: Another one of our friendship more he just left, but
Speaker 2: he's ahead of our marketing. So then Mike's brother is like,
Speaker 2: he edits because I write, but I'm not the best
Speaker 2: for grammar. So he's our editor for our writing. And
Speaker 2: then his other brother actually edits our videos. He DTAs
Speaker 2: our live events. So it's like, why would we pay
Speaker 2: somebody else. We could stimulate each We all come from
Speaker 2: the same neighborhood, so now we stimulate in each other's economy,
Speaker 2: and ultimately it's only going to come back to all
Speaker 2: of us anyway and make all of us stronger as
Speaker 2: opposed to trying to, you know, work with this person
Speaker 2: and that person, and it's like by before you know it,
Speaker 2: like you don't even understand what's going on. And I
Speaker 2: feel like people will take more pride and they'll they'll
Speaker 2: go to extra amount because now it actually makes sense
Speaker 2: where it's like his brother's gonna work harder for him
Speaker 2: because he know he wants him to be successful. Right,
Speaker 2: it's not just a random person who you just outsource.
Speaker 2: And it's like, I'll get it to it when I
Speaker 2: can get to it, man, I'll say I'll say two
Speaker 2: things in this. First of all, we as a people
Speaker 2: have to be willing to work. That's like, we gotta
Speaker 2: be real about this. This is what the accountability that.
Speaker 4: If I put you on, be on, don't give me
Speaker 4: a bad name. And I'm doing my best to keep
Speaker 4: this thing afloat. Don't come in like, man, what a bag.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get the bag you can't get. There's
Speaker 4: plenty of bag. We're talking like it's only one bag. Like, no,
Speaker 4: you gotta keep adding to the Okay, we're gonna give
Speaker 4: your bag. It's gonna be empty at first. You're gonna
Speaker 4: add I'm gonna switch a lot of rappers talking. You're
Speaker 4: gonna add to it. And us as a people, we
Speaker 4: are the bad. That's what we got to get through.
Speaker 3: We are value.
Speaker 4: This come on the value. We have to add to that.
Speaker 4: So we we add to that piece. And we have
Speaker 4: to be pride for or proud and thankful and happy
Speaker 4: to work for one another. If I'm working one brother,
Speaker 4: I'm working with my brother. And we have to treat
Speaker 4: the people that work with us fairly too. We gotta
Speaker 4: have love, we gotta have respect, we have to have trust.
Speaker 4: One major reason why we don't trust when it comes
Speaker 4: to money. It's really a traumatic thing that has been
Speaker 4: passed down generationally as a part of what happened with
Speaker 4: us with the Freedman's Bank. The Freeman's Bank when black
Speaker 4: folks we were technically slaves, but they're not or whatever,
Speaker 4: and we became free, et cetera. We were putting our
Speaker 4: money into Freeman's Bank. Okay, so we're putting our money
Speaker 4: in there, in our savings and all that. And after
Speaker 4: a certain point they just took all our money and
Speaker 4: they're like, but no, you can't get your money back
Speaker 4: now that's it boomed. So our money is going out
Speaker 4: of like we're like, okay, hold on, hold on. So
Speaker 4: we were rushing now hearing about that Russian. Just take
Speaker 4: whatever our money, take it out and just spend it.
Speaker 4: Just spend it, spend and spend it because they're gonna
Speaker 4: take it from me. So I gotta spend it to
Speaker 4: get some assets, something physical, you know, So so now
Speaker 4: I have to. It's it's a traumatic thing. That's why
Speaker 4: we just spend, spend, spend, spend. We don't save because
Speaker 4: we think, damn it, if I don't buy something, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna lose it. That's really it's a deep traumatic thing
Speaker 4: that happens. But especially in the hood. We gotta buy
Speaker 4: the sneakers, we gotta buy the necklace, we gotta buy this,
Speaker 4: not realize most of that jurious fake I'm not talking
Speaker 4: about ones that I know personally, it's really you know,
Speaker 4: so we don't want to give our people this fake
Speaker 4: hope of aspirations in something that does an add value,
Speaker 4: doesn't add wealth, doesn't build up us as a people.
Speaker 4: And really, when you're putting people on, when you're buying
Speaker 4: up land in real estate and you're going into technology
Speaker 4: and business and all of that, it takes time. But
Speaker 4: it is the most long lasting. That little quick dollar
Speaker 4: ain't nothing. It is how long it's the longevity, the consistency.
Speaker 4: Can you create what you create generational wealth like motels
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Bro, that's never ending. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: see what I'm saying, And that's families that do that,
Speaker 4: families and they eating for the rest of their life.
Speaker 4: I'm tired of this whole get the bag noble. I
Speaker 4: want to get get the business the business, okay, and
Speaker 4: then build from there and just keep going until you know,
Speaker 4: we achieve that generational wealth.
Speaker 3: So speaking, expelled rappers and obviously get the bag is
Speaker 3: that's one of the slangs. What are your thoughts in
Speaker 3: the accountability and responsibility that they have, because I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like you might be just like a generation
Speaker 3: below us when it came to the music. We always
Speaker 3: talk about how it raised us. What are your thoughts
Speaker 3: on that? Just generation rappers?
Speaker 4: People listen to y'all, that's just what we have to
Speaker 4: get through our head. The children listen to what rappers say.
Speaker 4: Out of what you say, sim Lean percoset. Okay, they're
Speaker 4: gonna send Lean and percoset that.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, it's what you do as an influencer.
Speaker 4: Most people who are rappers, you know, they like, Look,
Speaker 4: I didn't signed up to be no leader. Yeah you did,
Speaker 4: sadly you did the moment you decided to be in
Speaker 4: front of people. You in front of people, and people
Speaker 4: like what you say. So they nine times out of
Speaker 4: ten are gonna want to do what you say to do.
Speaker 4: They're gonna want to act like how you act, dress
Speaker 4: how you dress, go where you go. That's what it is.
Speaker 4: If I'm interested in you, I see what you got on.
Speaker 4: I like that because I like you. It's the personality
Speaker 4: attached to it. I like the personality. I want to
Speaker 4: be like the personality. It's a psychological game that we
Speaker 4: have to understand that we're playing. So you've got to
Speaker 4: be very accountable when you're doing what you're doing. Just
Speaker 4: the athletes, the rappers, the actresses, the actress, everybody gotta
Speaker 4: be accountable because people are watching you. So regardless of
Speaker 4: whether or that's you feel like you signed them to
Speaker 4: be a influencer or a leader, you are that. Now.
Speaker 4: Are you doing it properly? Maybe not, but you have
Speaker 4: to understand people are gonna follow what you do and
Speaker 4: what you say. So we just got to take responsibility
Speaker 4: for that broke.
Speaker 2: So you're a member of the Nation of Islam. So
Speaker 2: I was talking off camera as far as I don't
Speaker 2: think that the Nation Islam people really understand as far
Speaker 2: as one of the founding principles of it was an
Speaker 2: economic structure like it had when it first started in
Speaker 2: the sixties even fifties. You know a lot of restaurants, Yes,
Speaker 2: it was. It was importing fish, I believe from Peru,
Speaker 2: with boats and trucks, farms, schools. That was like the
Speaker 2: whole thing in the slogan was like do for self.
Speaker 2: So economics was always a big part of it. So
Speaker 2: can you enlighten the people on that, because, like I said,
Speaker 2: they might have heard about the Nation Islam, they might
Speaker 2: have had some preconceived notions, but they might not have
Speaker 2: known that part. As far as the business structure.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, but I'll say this when it comes to our people,
Speaker 4: you know, when it comes to us as a group,
Speaker 4: the number one thing is to make sure you keep
Speaker 4: our people economically undermined, thiss enfranchised, keep them out of
Speaker 4: the market, make sure we don't have the ability to
Speaker 4: access capital large amounts of money so that we can
Speaker 4: do for self. That's been the overall legenda of this system. However,
Speaker 4: the most honoraby Lajah Muhammad came up with something called
Speaker 4: the Economic Blueprint, where he said five cents a day,
Speaker 4: thirty five cents a week, less than twenty dollars a year,
Speaker 4: and we all pour that money and pull it together
Speaker 4: so that we can have a practicing group economic system
Speaker 4: where we can buy our own farm land, where we
Speaker 4: can establish own businesses, et cetera, et cetera. So he
Speaker 4: started that and the do for self or suffer the
Speaker 4: consequences is specifically what he said, he learned a lot
Speaker 4: of what he learned from when it comes to economics,
Speaker 4: from the honorable Marcus Mosaic Garviy with the entire you know,
Speaker 4: the movement under the Garviai movement, which was very successful
Speaker 4: as we all know. So by implementing this, the Nation
Speaker 4: of Islam rolls, as I said, not only with farms
Speaker 4: as you brought up, importing fish, schools, businesses. We had
Speaker 4: sewing companies, you know, clothing companies, all these things, and
Speaker 4: of course employing all of our own people. And it
Speaker 4: grew into an over eight see million dollar economy with
Speaker 4: the Nation of Islam Alan talking about in the sixties,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So the do for self
Speaker 4: still stands today. We still practice that today. We actually
Speaker 4: when the government came in and pretty much destroyed everything,
Speaker 4: removed our schools, removed everything, you know, arrested a lot
Speaker 4: of the people. They did not want it to be
Speaker 4: known that that was that there was an independent group
Speaker 4: of black people, intelligent thinkers, peaceful people. You're not gonna
Speaker 4: mess with us, you know, but we are peaceful who
Speaker 4: are doing for self and establishing our own everything, just
Speaker 4: how everyone else is doing. Chinese are doing it, and
Speaker 4: he is doing it, Jewish people doing it. And the
Speaker 4: issue was that for us in particular, because we wanted
Speaker 4: to separate and establish our own everything, that became a problem.
Speaker 4: So we still have it today. Schools, we have farms. Security. Oh,
Speaker 4: security all day long.
Speaker 3: We'll get that, we'll get that.
Speaker 4: You get it twisted, you know. But we have a
Speaker 4: lot of these things still established. We have the number
Speaker 4: one black news publication in the world, the Final Call
Speaker 4: newspaper independently, you know, produced, published and promoted by us,
Speaker 4: with local, national, and international news about different topics and subjects,
Speaker 4: including economics.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, man, it's a beautiful thing. It was a
Speaker 4: larger circumstance back then, but once it came down, we
Speaker 4: of course resurrected it and that we are still going.
Speaker 4: How did you said? The government kind of squashed it? Yeah,
Speaker 4: how'd that go? And time?
Speaker 3: What's the timeframe we're talking about?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're talking about in the late sixties, early
Speaker 4: seventies where they came in. Of course, when the most
Speaker 4: taanabilaged Mohammad departed in the mid nineteen seventies, that's when
Speaker 4: a lot of different things started happening. Businesses started shutting down.
Speaker 4: They started to go in. You know, certain people left
Speaker 4: and became discouraged. You know, once you once you feel
Speaker 4: that your leader has departed, it's very you know, disheartened,
Speaker 4: it's heartbreaking. So a lot of people left, the businesses,
Speaker 4: a lot of businesses shut down, a lot of companies
Speaker 4: started to buy out businesses and companies. The schools. They
Speaker 4: were arresting the teachers of the Mohamma University at the time,
Speaker 4: because we faught to have independent schooling. In large part
Speaker 4: in America is because of the most Unabeliga Muhammad that
Speaker 4: independent schooling even exists him, Sister Claire Mahama weed, that
Speaker 4: was something that we fought for because he said, of
Speaker 4: our people want to learn education about us, we must
Speaker 4: be taught by our own just how everyone else does that.
Speaker 4: So again that was a problem. So these are different
Speaker 4: components that the government came in and said we're gonna
Speaker 4: take that, take that, remove that, buy that out, etcetera.
Speaker 4: You know, arrest these people, et cetera, et cetera. So
Speaker 4: it was a large pool and economically that was a
Speaker 4: major thing that they said we're gonna snatch this, and
Speaker 4: they try to come up with things saying well, this
Speaker 4: is done illegally, and this is illegaland we're gonna take
Speaker 4: this and taxes and whatever. You know, they just tried
Speaker 4: to find any way to destroy the base and the foundation.
Speaker 4: So they were successful partially, but again because because of
Speaker 4: Minister Farakhan and all the work of the believers at
Speaker 4: that time in the late seventies and the eighties, we
Speaker 4: were able to resurrect it and re establish everything. We're
Speaker 4: still coming back up, but we were seriously able to
Speaker 4: come back something that usually is devastating.
Speaker 3: Now I've heard you say before you were born into
Speaker 3: the nation. Can you talk about that journey? Because I
Speaker 3: know that you've been studying and obviously teaching as well,
Speaker 3: but I know you went into political science in college.
Speaker 3: What's that journey been like for you?
Speaker 4: I'll say this, being born, first born Compton, the youngest
Speaker 4: of ten children. You said, well, attitude, man, we got
Speaker 4: some big families. So I'm the youngest of ten children,
Speaker 4: five boys, five girls, and growing up in Compton. We
Speaker 4: went to Mahana Mastam fifty four in Compton, that's the
Speaker 4: Compton Mosque. So I was praying in Arabic before I
Speaker 4: prayed in English. I was waking up five am, washing
Speaker 4: my hands, feed ankles for a blution and all that,
Speaker 4: praying on the rug with the compass on it. I
Speaker 4: didn't even know what I was saying when I was
Speaker 4: two and three years old, but that's what I was doing.
Speaker 4: All of our last names are Islam, so that's really
Speaker 4: interesting to the airport right now. Boring into it, Man,
Speaker 4: it was a different lifestyle because we were all known.
Speaker 4: Our house was known as the Muslims, like we was
Speaker 4: known as those the Muslims in the community. So everybody
Speaker 4: everything was cool. You came around our house, everybody's respectful.
Speaker 4: They saw us walk down the street. All the dined them.
Speaker 4: The moves was don't give them no port, you know,
Speaker 4: like that's how it was funny, But that's how that's
Speaker 4: how it was when we grew up. That was the lifestyle.
Speaker 4: You know, it was a beautiful thing. And so from
Speaker 4: that point up until about the age of seven or
Speaker 4: eight is when I was practicing going to mass et cetera.
Speaker 4: Our stepfather, who was the one that brought us into Islama,
Speaker 4: was arrested and brought to jail. So when he was
Speaker 4: taking to jail, family collapsed. Different things happened you know,
Speaker 4: gang banging was something that occurred with some of my
Speaker 4: brothers and some of my family cousins. My oldest sister
Speaker 4: was on She ended up on skid row on crack
Speaker 4: cocaine for about fifteen years. So she's still alive. Thankfully,
Speaker 4: she made it through. She's cleaning and I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 4: But this is the clock the circumstances that were happening
Speaker 4: around our family. So at that point, no one was
Speaker 4: going to the Maas anymore. So it was just me
Speaker 4: and my mother. And then from there we actually went
Speaker 4: into the Christian church because she was going to a
Speaker 4: program when she was an atropathic doctor, et cetera. And
Speaker 4: she was having her people go to this program, her clients,
Speaker 4: and at that program she met up with a Christian
Speaker 4: pastor and so they were doing things, working out a
Speaker 4: lot of you know, situations for different patients and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. And you know, I said, well, this is
Speaker 4: where we're gonna be at. I was like nineteen years old,
Speaker 4: So she said, okay, you know that we're gonna be at,
Speaker 4: et cetera. And I was learning the Bible at that point,
Speaker 4: so I started learning the Quran, et cetera. Praying there
Speaker 4: a big in a nation. Then I'm now in the
Speaker 4: Christian Church for a certain period of time. Then after
Speaker 4: that boom circle all the way back now and back.
Speaker 3: In the nation.
Speaker 4: Like that's how literally just in a nutshell.
Speaker 2: That's pretty Have have your other siblings are they have
Speaker 2: they come back to the nation or they love the nation?
Speaker 4: But to my knowledge, none of them are in a
Speaker 4: mosque to my knowledge, but most of them they live
Speaker 4: in different states. Those cities still got the last name
Speaker 4: Miss Slim say Aslam Lake and they're like, we Muslim,
Speaker 4: we you know, we love a nation. Let a minister.
Speaker 4: It is what it is. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So where in the building or not, Islam is right here.
Speaker 4: So the building is not where the building is what
Speaker 4: makes you a Muslim. It's what you practice, It's how
Speaker 4: you live your life. That's what it is. So you know,
Speaker 4: that's why I love my family.
Speaker 2: Man. We all type like that, all right, Yeah, that's interesting,
Speaker 2: especially on the on the West Coast. I feel like,
Speaker 2: well just in general, but like from ice Cube, like
Speaker 2: it's been influences in the music as far as with
Speaker 2: the nation is not specifically, so always felt like, you
Speaker 2: know it had a stronghold as far as like you know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, like even I saw you with Nick before
Speaker 2: he passed, Rest in peace. Like I know he had
Speaker 2: ties and you know, I think you did some security
Speaker 2: for him before. How was how was that experience?
Speaker 4: Man? This? I think this is the first interview I
Speaker 4: was asking about about Nick. Man, that's a funny telling you, brother,
Speaker 4: he was when I met him. First of all, it
Speaker 4: was for Carl kannad pop up not far from far Fairfax, Okay,
Speaker 4: and uh it was the nineties collection and nip came
Speaker 4: in there. We were on his detail, and he was
Speaker 4: a tall brother. First of all, people don't know he
Speaker 4: was a tall brother. I was taller than him, but
Speaker 4: he was a tall brother all right. And he wasn't
Speaker 4: no joke. He was very humble. He talked to everybody,
Speaker 4: shug everybody's hand, how you doing, et cetera, boom boom boom.
Speaker 4: And when he spoke to me, he was just like, man,
Speaker 4: I love y'all brothers. Man, y'all always looking out for us.
Speaker 4: I'll always been in the hood. I learned a lot
Speaker 4: from y'all. That's why, that's why I rock with y'all.
Speaker 4: He just kept saying, I love him as Farcana. That's
Speaker 4: like y'all always in the hood. Only was I see
Speaker 4: always in the hood, not saying that, you know, other
Speaker 4: organizations are not. There's a lot of groups that are.
Speaker 4: He was just saying, you know, I rock with y'all.
Speaker 4: And he learned the economic piece because a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people say, definitely get all that you know.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, bro. He studied Message to the Black Man,
Speaker 4: which is a book that he gave t I t
Speaker 4: I asked him, Okay, what book do you recommend, like
Speaker 4: which one first, he said, Mester, the black Man read
Speaker 4: that one, and then there it goes over the economic blueprint.
Speaker 4: So he would get mentored by the Western Region Representative
Speaker 4: of the Nation of Islam, whose former name is Minister
Speaker 4: Tony Muhammad. His name now is Minister Minister Malik I
Speaker 4: do a Malix, said Muhammad, So he would be his mentor.
Speaker 4: He was mentoring in for about good over seven years,
Speaker 4: and he would call him and ask him questions about economics,
Speaker 4: about business, about you know, the brotherhood and just get
Speaker 4: it by being a man, et cetera. So that economic
Speaker 4: piece in him going out and studying bitcoin, all that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff was in the large part because of
Speaker 4: the nation and what he was learning from what we
Speaker 4: were doing. You see what I'm saying. So just him
Speaker 4: as a brother man, it was it was a powerful
Speaker 4: thing being around him. He was very intelligent. That's another thing.
Speaker 4: People really be sleeping on the hood, man, They really
Speaker 4: really think we're ignorant. How it. I'm from Compton, you know,
Speaker 4: he's La. He's ill trying, and he's out in LA.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of brothers and sisters coming out the hood.
Speaker 4: You're all from New York. And so when people see us.
Speaker 4: It's very interesting how they approach you because they really
Speaker 4: think you don't know a damn thing, and it's like, nah,
Speaker 4: I got a lot of knowledge down here, you know, like, really,
Speaker 4: don't don't play on me. He was he wasn't He
Speaker 4: wasn't flamboyant, he wasn't boastful, you know. But if you
Speaker 4: try to test him, he'll flex on him. So you like,
Speaker 4: let you no, no, no, I know something, bro, you
Speaker 4: sit down. But he would more so show it rather
Speaker 4: than talking. And that's something I really respect about the brother.
Speaker 4: He was just consistent, did the work, and he built
Speaker 4: an empire that really with a lot of people in
Speaker 4: the hood.
Speaker 3: That's the fact. That's one of the quotes that you said.
Speaker 3: You said that the greatest soldiers sometimes come from the
Speaker 3: worst areas, and so you've made a concerted effort to
Speaker 3: go back into these areas. I saw your answer, so
Speaker 3: I had to talk about it because when you went
Speaker 3: in Chicago, we drove by Old Block, like, yo, that's
Speaker 3: old Block. But I saw you inside there, and like
Speaker 3: you said, when when when you see people from the nation,
Speaker 3: it's just a certain level of respect that you give.
Speaker 3: What was the experience like Old block bro.
Speaker 4: First of all, the security guard looked at us, like,
Speaker 4: y'all you're trying to come in all sue it is
Speaker 4: like y'all know y'all like y'all coming in here like
Speaker 4: its old block. He was like, yeah, you're coming in
Speaker 4: there like so now you're looking at like what y'all
Speaker 4: bringing in it.
Speaker 3: The wire.
Speaker 4: Like no, okay, cool, all right, I see Yeah, y'are
Speaker 4: 'all brothers, he said, Well, he said, y'all got to
Speaker 4: park over there. Y'all can walk through. You know, we're
Speaker 4: not let nobody drive in right now because of the
Speaker 4: whole COVID and security stuff. So we go in. The
Speaker 4: first thing we see is four five children playing outside.
Speaker 4: The first thing you think when they talk about Chicago
Speaker 4: is don't nobody want to be outside? Everybody's shooting? Man,
Speaker 4: It's don't nobody like nobody's It's a jumble out there.
Speaker 4: But the first thing we see is five children playing outside, smiling,
Speaker 4: little sh just no children. You see three elders, one
Speaker 4: sister sitting down with her baby. It was a two
Speaker 4: month old, smiling, just playing with the baby. Another brother
Speaker 4: was sweeping grass, and I don't know what that meant.
Speaker 4: So we walked up to them. We just talking to him.
Speaker 4: It's like it's a lot of love right here in
Speaker 4: this area. As soon as we walk in and we're
Speaker 4: just talking to him, asking him about this neighborhood, et cetera,
Speaker 4: and the elders was saying, well, no man out here
Speaker 4: on the outskirts. They say, you got the gate in
Speaker 4: the front and right on the inside of that. You know,
Speaker 4: the first layer is the front, which is cool. He said,
Speaker 4: it's a lot of us elders here and it ain't
Speaker 4: nothing going on. He said, where you really need to
Speaker 4: go is up the middle. You said, up the middle,
Speaker 4: he said, he said, goes straight down, turn right. He said,
Speaker 4: y'all got that piece on you though, right, because what
Speaker 4: he asked, he's like, he said, now, if y'all gonna
Speaker 4: go up the middle, he said, that's where it really
Speaker 4: goes down. That's where all the crazy stuff is and everything.
Speaker 4: We said, okay, that's where we want to go. He said, well, well,
Speaker 4: I just just make sure y'all got that thing on you, right.
Speaker 4: We said, yeah, brother, we got we need. We were good.
Speaker 4: So we walked and went up the middle and the
Speaker 4: first thing we see some brothers sitting in the car
Speaker 4: smoking eating some sisters over there and we are some
Speaker 4: dirt bikes and everything. We're like, yeah, this this this
Speaker 4: is more like it that was there with two brothers
Speaker 4: from Baltimore or one brother from Chicago. So we're like,
Speaker 4: this is see our people, brother that's what we want
Speaker 4: to be. Were not Hollywood. We neighborhood and we really
Speaker 4: love being around our people. Come on, So when we
Speaker 4: get there, first thing, people look at us like, who
Speaker 4: the hell are these dude like coming in fully suited.
Speaker 4: First of all, it's hot and we all black. That's
Speaker 4: the other thing. They're like, all right, hold on it,
Speaker 4: it's like a movie. Yeah. People really was like, y'all
Speaker 4: you got him out of time. So we was like yeah, man.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I'm from the West Coast, et cetera.
Speaker 4: But we said we just came from doing the music
Speaker 4: video and everything. They like music video. They said, oh y'all,
Speaker 4: y'all the brothers because they saw our pen. I said,
Speaker 4: you know the name of a lot of it was like,
Speaker 4: oh y'all on the nation, they say, you said, he said,
Speaker 4: oh man, well you the brothers do be coming here. Man.
Speaker 4: We appreciate y'all brothers. They said, if we didn't know
Speaker 4: it was y'all, we would have told y'all to get
Speaker 4: a body here. That's how real the it was. It's like, look,
Speaker 4: we would have just told you to get a bodycause
Speaker 4: y'allin't a bob nothing. That's what they what they were saying.
Speaker 4: And we started talking to him. Turns out one of
Speaker 4: them is one of the biggest rappers from that block.
Speaker 4: You know, we had no idea, We didn't know who
Speaker 4: it was. But this is how this is how a
Speaker 4: lot of works. How it got worse. So were talking
Speaker 4: to them, they're talking about business. They started asking us questions,
Speaker 4: how did you get out the hood? We was like,
Speaker 4: get out, we still live in the hood. It was like,
Speaker 4: you live in the hood. You looking like that, you know,
Speaker 4: like sort of mind said. We were working on the
Speaker 4: mindset of our brothers because they couldn't believe it, like
Speaker 4: y'all talk like this, you walked like this, you still
Speaker 4: in the hood. And why did y'all come in here?
Speaker 4: We said, because we want to go to talk to y'all.
Speaker 4: The brother said, yeah, this brother from the from the
Speaker 4: West Coast. Brother reason he came out here from the
Speaker 4: West Coast. He told us to take him to the hood,
Speaker 4: and I said, don't give me no downtown nice little No,
Speaker 4: I need, bro, bring me where where it's popping off
Speaker 4: at what the news is saying is the worst here.
Speaker 4: Bring me there. That's why I want to go, because
Speaker 4: that's that's that's home for us. So when we got
Speaker 4: in there, bro, it was like they just couldn't believe.
Speaker 4: And they said, y'all not selling us nothing. Y'all ain't
Speaker 4: trying to like you know, no, sir, I just want
Speaker 4: to talk to you. It blew their mind, they said, damn.
Speaker 4: And that's that's love, bro. And after that we had
Speaker 4: a conversation. We were there for about a good two hours.
Speaker 4: They was like, look, man, whenever y'all come in the
Speaker 4: old block, bro, hit us up. We're gonna get all
Speaker 4: the brothers and sisters come out. Y'all can talk to
Speaker 4: them whatever y'all want to do, man, because that's that's love.
Speaker 3: That's how it should be, that's how that's representation like,
Speaker 3: and that's kind of what you've been saying from the beginning.
Speaker 3: It's just like, Yo, a lot of times we don't
Speaker 3: aspire to be things because we've never seen it. So
Speaker 3: like to see that type of love and coming to
Speaker 3: your neighborhood. That's what that should be the response to it.
Speaker 4: And it was different, different brothers from different neighborhoods in
Speaker 4: different cities and different states. So two brothers from Baltimore,
Speaker 4: one brother from Compson, and one brother from Chicago. First
Speaker 4: of all, y'all not fighting, that's really y'all. And the secondly,
Speaker 4: you'll all came in here with the same message, and
Speaker 4: it's all about love and just talking to each other
Speaker 4: and building up each other. We talked about business and
Speaker 4: economics with them, we did yeah, you know, and we
Speaker 4: talked about brotherhood. We talked about bringing unity to the
Speaker 4: hood and what y'all doing, How what do you need
Speaker 4: help with? Like what do y'all need? Y'all got food
Speaker 4: in here, you got water? Like what's going on? And
Speaker 4: they were just educating and they said, man, y'a allesome,
Speaker 4: y'all someome world brothers. Man. So they all gave us
Speaker 4: the number. They said, but whenever y'all need to come
Speaker 4: up and here, we'll take you wherever the people are
Speaker 4: who need food. We know where the elders live at
Speaker 4: with the children that y'all let us know. Bro we're
Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna bring you all rounds. You see what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, yeah, I mean that's what it's about.
Speaker 2: It's about touching the people and you can't be afraid
Speaker 2: of your own people. And it's interesting too because it's
Speaker 2: like different different environments. Is like, because even you know,
Speaker 2: we're from New York, so you know, like you think
Speaker 2: of like the slums in New York, like you think
Speaker 2: of housing projects, which is like you know, tenement buildings
Speaker 2: that they're very large, like twenty stories, fifteen stories. But
Speaker 2: we're driving through South Central it looks like a nice
Speaker 2: neighborhood like in reality. You know, it's like it's like
Speaker 2: it's kind of surprising because it's like.
Speaker 4: We got our hoods. No no, no, I'm just no
Speaker 4: no no.
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying, it's like, you know what I
Speaker 2: mean as far as the I feel like sometimes the
Speaker 2: mindset like can place a good neighborhood and make it bad.
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like the resources might be there to actually make
Speaker 2: it a good neighborhood, but you know, other elements can
Speaker 2: turn into a bad neighborhood. But on the outside looking
Speaker 2: in it doesn't necessarily fit the description of what a
Speaker 2: slum or bad neighborhood.
Speaker 3: It's not a foravilla, you know what I mean, especially
Speaker 3: if you grew up in it.
Speaker 4: You know, you can't really tell the difference. A lot
Speaker 4: of these children, like I said, when I was walking
Speaker 4: in there and just watching them play around throw football
Speaker 4: and we threw the football around with him and everything,
Speaker 4: they didn't they couldn't tell we in the limited project.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like that bubble mentality. It's like, yo, I
Speaker 3: wish and working in the city, it was like I
Speaker 3: lived eight miles from where I was teaching, So I
Speaker 3: was like, I used in my mind, like I really
Speaker 3: wish these kids could just see what eight miles the
Speaker 3: way it looks like, like just eight miles away, like
Speaker 3: just a bus ride away, how much different life looks
Speaker 3: because they just live in this bubble world where it's
Speaker 3: like this is all they know, but a lot of them.
Speaker 2: But also it goes back I said to appreciation, because
Speaker 2: like we talk about Harlem and it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: you see it's being gentified at a very alarming rate,
Speaker 2: and you see best stop being gentified at a very
Speaker 2: alarming rate. But it's like a lot of times we
Speaker 2: don't fully appreciate it until it's actually being taken right,
Speaker 2: because it's like even in New York, like there's projects,
Speaker 2: but then there's a neighborhood called Stuyvesant Town, so Stuyvesant
Speaker 2: toown literally looks like projects. It's the same thing, but
Speaker 2: that's not probably it's not public housing. It's just regular
Speaker 2: people live the even wealthy people live there. But the
Speaker 2: upkeep of the buildings are way better. So it's like
Speaker 2: it's it's an interesting dynamic because it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: so that now like even where in where we live
Speaker 2: in our neighborhood, there's a public housing project and they've
Speaker 2: they've turning it into luxury buildings, but they're keeping the
Speaker 2: residents there and then they're like, it's gonna be like
Speaker 2: mixed use. So the theory I was talking to the
Speaker 2: one of developers and he was like, the theory behind
Speaker 2: it is that if you give people a sense of
Speaker 2: pride where they live, they're gonna take better care of it.
Speaker 2: And now the mindset of I'm living in the project,
Speaker 2: so I don't mind it being bad is that and
Speaker 2: now I'm living in luxury so it's a responsibility to upkeep.
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is that I just think that
Speaker 2: we should have that same mindset no matter what, because
Speaker 2: it's upkeep. Because even I see like the nation, like
Speaker 2: you pick up garbage on the streets and stuff like this,
Speaker 2: like little stuff like that, like just literally littering. You
Speaker 2: don't really think about it, but it goes a long way,
Speaker 2: know it. It's like the whole It's like a domino fact.
Speaker 3: I think. I think that's one of the conversations we had.
Speaker 3: It was like, Yo, if I gave you a Bentley,
Speaker 3: you're gonna treat it like a Bentley. If I gave
Speaker 3: you a Toyota, You're not gonna treat it like it
Speaker 3: was a Bentley. You just going to look said Toyota.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, see that, like you said, made a very good
Speaker 4: point when you said, we don't appreciate things until they're
Speaker 4: taken away from us. That's a big deal because now
Speaker 4: people are talking about gentrification. But it's like like you said,
Speaker 4: you be you know, litering, you be doing all kinds
Speaker 4: of throwing stuff out the window. You don't even you
Speaker 4: don't clean up around the neighborhood. You know, like this
Speaker 4: is this is yours, but if you don't treat it
Speaker 4: like it's yours, then of course somebody else is gonna
Speaker 4: claim it. You know, right now we have on eighty
Speaker 4: eighth and Vermont over in LA, these new housing units
Speaker 4: that they just put up, and I'm like, okay, it's
Speaker 4: usually a lot of homeless right there. It's a lot
Speaker 4: of neighborhoods right there, those right down street from Vermont
Speaker 4: and Manchester Central, that's South Central, this is LA. I'm like, so,
Speaker 4: who the hell invested right there in that in that
Speaker 4: area because I know we didn't do it. Secondly, who's
Speaker 4: going to be living in there? Because I know it's
Speaker 4: not going to be us living there. So to me,
Speaker 4: I'm like to see, now we got to change thisself
Speaker 4: because the moment they start coming back in, we can't
Speaker 4: complain because it's too late. Now. We need to be
Speaker 4: pooling our resources, our money right now and start to
Speaker 4: buy up piece by piece, And which is what we
Speaker 4: are doing. You know, some of us are doing it,
Speaker 4: others are not doing it. But as a people, we
Speaker 4: got to get into that mentality of yeah, you may
Speaker 4: not have all the money as an individual, right you
Speaker 4: live in the projects, you got twenty dollars. Though you
Speaker 4: got next door they got twenty each person the projects,
Speaker 4: y'all can come up with a twenty. We're gonna all
Speaker 4: put that together and we can start buying up plots
Speaker 4: of land and then we can start building on it.
Speaker 4: That's how the mentality is supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Then it becomes ours right now, it doesn't become something
Speaker 3: with renting, And it was like, oh, we can't pass that.
Speaker 2: We also we interviewed Chris Senegal. He's a realitate developer
Speaker 2: in Houston, Texas. So what he's doing is interesting. He
Speaker 2: brought like a whole block in the Fifth Ward, which
Speaker 2: at the time was a really bad neighborhood. It was
Speaker 2: like prostitutions, liquor stores, and it was pretty dilapidated.
Speaker 4: So he.
Speaker 2: Re renovated the whole block townhouses. But what he's doing
Speaker 2: is that so it's like, all right, Usually somebody from
Speaker 2: the hood does good. They become a doctor, a lawyer, whatever.
Speaker 2: They moved to the suburbs. So he's like, all right,
Speaker 2: those people that are originally from the Fifth Ward that
Speaker 2: moved to the suburbs, he's like recruiting them to come back.
Speaker 2: So it's like you know what I mean, Like now
Speaker 2: you bringing back So it's not even like you're compromising
Speaker 2: the economy because but now it's raising But now it's
Speaker 2: helping everybody because the school system and that. But it's
Speaker 2: people that actually care for the community and a part
Speaker 2: of the culture because it came from it. As opposed
Speaker 2: to somebody it just has nothing to do with the
Speaker 2: community at all.
Speaker 4: Build up the hood and not a band in the hood.
Speaker 4: That's how it is. You know, a lot of us.
Speaker 4: See the funny thing is now a lot of people
Speaker 4: who left the hood now to look into the hood
Speaker 4: because the activists have become the celebrities.
Speaker 3: Come down there.
Speaker 4: Shouldn't have left, right, But that's that's the It shouldn't
Speaker 4: take all that. But now I'm very proud of that
Speaker 4: brother for doing that, because that's exactly what needs to happen.
Speaker 4: Whatever hood you came from, it's really like adopt the hood.
Speaker 4: That's yours. What you're doing Like it's like a newborn
Speaker 4: baby you just left it. No, it's your hood. Is
Speaker 4: where you came from. It's what gave you your foundation,
Speaker 4: good or bad, what up to make you what you are.
Speaker 4: So going adopted you don't have to buy everything, but
Speaker 4: at least buy something, and like you said, start to
Speaker 4: renovate it, revamped, re establish it, and build it up
Speaker 4: so that the hood's value can go up. People can
Speaker 4: feel good, like, damn, that's in. That's in the hood. Man,
Speaker 4: that looks good. Somebody might tag on it. You got
Speaker 4: to handle them. It's a process. It's a process.
Speaker 3: And once you start doing that, like like big business said,
Speaker 3: like you are the comps, right so now like this
Speaker 3: house is yours, the one next door, y'all own it,
Speaker 3: y'all set the comps, every appreciation of the neighborhood goes up.
Speaker 4: Hire the people in the hood. Man at homeless, dude,
Speaker 4: hire him. Since you're sitting right here, all right, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna make you the person who watches Take this radio
Speaker 4: and if you see anybody trunk tag, go ahead, radio
Speaker 4: or let us know. We're gonna pay you a couple
Speaker 4: hundred a week to start. We're gonna clean you up
Speaker 4: something serious.
Speaker 3: Hire them.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Look at you're gonna work
Speaker 4: for me. You don't need whatever. Just come on, boom,
Speaker 4: You're gonna work here. When you need a job, be fifteen,
Speaker 4: Come on, we got something, you can sweep, buve, you
Speaker 4: can help the paint whatever. That's how it is. We
Speaker 4: think a little too deep when it comes to this.
Speaker 4: Stuff is very very very simple. A couple hundred dollars
Speaker 4: can go a long way for one person to help
Speaker 4: them and their family. And you can give them a
Speaker 4: job that takes maybe less than two hours to train
Speaker 4: them to do that will help to go towards the collective.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's real simple stuff.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You brought up a good point where you just said
Speaker 2: that the activist has become the celebrities and don't get mad,
Speaker 2: all right, No, it's true, especially with social media, the
Speaker 2: rise of social media. So I see a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff that you do, and and but one thing that
Speaker 2: I'm interested in is like you're branding, because like I
Speaker 2: feel like you've branded yourself your own way. It's kind
Speaker 2: of like like, I don't know if you you've ever
Speaker 2: heard a Wallow to succesven.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I love my brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my god. That's my got shout to Wallow.
Speaker 2: He's being on the podcast as well, so but another one.
Speaker 2: He's just very interesting. He has an interesting story and
Speaker 2: he came out. He's a motivational speaker and he did
Speaker 2: twenty years in jail. So but you're you're branding yourself
Speaker 2: from a political standpoint, an activist standpoint, but it's still
Speaker 2: it's still a brand, right, So like, what was your
Speaker 2: thought process behind that? Did you originally set out to
Speaker 2: become a social media influencer and how did you how
Speaker 2: did you build that brand?
Speaker 4: How did that happen? I'd say this, first of all,
Speaker 4: I never intended to be no social media influencer, not
Speaker 4: even closed. I've been doing this work, meaning activism, being
Speaker 4: a researcher, educator. I've been doing this since I was
Speaker 4: eleven years old in the hood in Compton, specifically at
Speaker 4: a nonprofit social betterment literacy program. That's why I was
Speaker 4: working since I was eleven years old. So the people
Speaker 4: coming into the program was black Mexicans, people who were
Speaker 4: on drugs, people who were on probation just got out
Speaker 4: of jail, trying to get their children back, people who
Speaker 4: couldn't read, couldn't write, people who were having to go
Speaker 4: to this program in order for them to get their
Speaker 4: children back, in order for them to get their rights
Speaker 4: back or whatever. All this stuff. This is what I've
Speaker 4: been doing since I was eleven years old. So teaching people,
Speaker 4: educating people, cleaning up, you know, the community, being in
Speaker 4: the community. All this stuff is what I've been doing
Speaker 4: long before Instagram was even created in twenty twelve, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So that's why when people talk
Speaker 4: to me, they're like, man, how do you study? And
Speaker 4: it just comes so naturally because I do it in
Speaker 4: real life. Like some of y'all started on social media, right,
Speaker 4: starting on social media. Now they trying to bring it
Speaker 4: to the street. I started in the street and brought
Speaker 4: it to social media. That's the difference. And that's not
Speaker 4: to belittle anybody, you know, it's the beauty is good.
Speaker 4: Wherever we are good, keep progressing. But I started and
Speaker 4: in still in the street as an educator, you know, activist,
Speaker 4: et cetera, researcher. So I saw social media and I noticed, okay, well, man,
Speaker 4: if I can educate the people, I know, our attention
Speaker 4: span kind of short. We got sixty seconds speaking of
Speaker 4: ass so we can do something with this. And like
Speaker 4: you said, so I started doing videos and it started
Speaker 4: flying real quick. I was like, oh, well, dang, okay,
Speaker 4: well I guess this is what I'm gona start doing
Speaker 4: just to help the people more than my immediate environment.
Speaker 4: And it took off. So I mean, I just you know, now,
Speaker 4: they they haven't shut me down yet, so I'm surprised.
Speaker 4: I'm still I'm really surprised.
Speaker 3: It's still let me no shadows bands yet, No shadows
Speaker 3: bands yet.
Speaker 4: They let you rock your videos a lot of views,
Speaker 4: I see that.
Speaker 3: So, speaking of social media and it's positive or negative impact,
Speaker 3: one of the things you said is that right now
Speaker 3: this might be the most ignorant generation despite having the
Speaker 3: most access and resources to information. Sir, can you go
Speaker 3: into that a little bit?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, this generation, first of all, as far as concess
Speaker 4: is the most powerful generation that has ever been produced. One.
Speaker 4: We don't fear this system. We don't really care about
Speaker 4: what white people got to say. We really don't care
Speaker 4: about what anyone has to say. As this generation, we
Speaker 4: really are just ripe and ready to do whatever needs
Speaker 4: to be done for our freedom. All we need is
Speaker 4: proper guidance, that's it. So we have the whole world
Speaker 4: in our hands, but we don't know where to go.
Speaker 4: We look at at nothing, but you know, working take
Speaker 4: whatever hit the role all day and I love, so
Speaker 4: I can't hate on that. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: it's like, damn, we can utilize this to make some change, bro.
Speaker 4: I mean, we can cause a create an entire revolution
Speaker 4: just from this, you know what I'm saying. So we
Speaker 4: need just the right guidance. So the ignorance meaning the
Speaker 4: lack of information and the lack of knowledge, So we
Speaker 4: lack the knowledge about a lot of things, what's going
Speaker 4: on politically, economically, agriculturally, with us as a people, with
Speaker 4: us as a nation, with us as a society. So
Speaker 4: we have to give them the knowledge that they need
Speaker 4: and then give them the guidance because we got all
Speaker 4: the access to the information. So if I say, look,
Speaker 4: hashtag you know black cash mob twenty twenty, which is
Speaker 4: my hashtag, hashtag black cash Mob twenty twenty, all black
Speaker 4: owned businesses spending on all black everything you send it
Speaker 4: around that gets ten thousand, forty thousand shares. So you
Speaker 4: just created an entire revolutionary constructive change, and a lot
Speaker 4: of people can access and they can follow it, and
Speaker 4: they can progressively do something in their community wherever they are.
Speaker 4: They're not next to you, They in another city, another state,
Speaker 4: and other country, but they are being involved in something
Speaker 4: that you originated that spreads across the ethers of the universe.
Speaker 4: That right there, bro is that's the power we have.
Speaker 4: Now we just have to keep them being guided in
Speaker 4: the right direction. That's the only thing I.
Speaker 3: Know what to look for.
Speaker 4: That's it. They just need to know, like what what
Speaker 4: do I do? Where do I go?
Speaker 2: I want to I want to ask you about Kingdom playing.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about your book as well. Yes,
Speaker 2: but I have one question before.
Speaker 4: Ais.
Speaker 2: Artificial intelligence is something that we've talked about a lot
Speaker 2: on our platform. And because I remember, like in New York,
Speaker 2: there's tolls, a lot of tolls, yes, and I remember
Speaker 2: when those were jobs people you know, you would give
Speaker 2: them five dollars and they give you four dollars back
Speaker 2: or whatever and they break the change for your next
Speaker 2: They stood in the booth all day, summertime, winner and
Speaker 2: they got paid fifteen dollars an hour whatever they got paid.
Speaker 4: And that was a job for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: And there's no Everything is through cameras now and they
Speaker 2: take pictures and they send you either easy pass or
Speaker 2: they send you a bill and the mail. And now
Speaker 2: we see with Amazon ghost stores where there's no cashiers
Speaker 2: and you just walk out the store.
Speaker 4: It's just Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Andrew Yang spoke about this, he got a lot
Speaker 2: of publicity for it when he said that, you know,
Speaker 2: it's going to be an economic title wave. I believe
Speaker 2: he said an economic title wave that's gonna it's unproportionately
Speaker 2: hit the black and brown communities because unfortunately, these are
Speaker 2: the people that have most of the lower paying jobs
Speaker 2: and manual jobs.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on artificial technology? How do we
Speaker 2: get on the right because I look got it like
Speaker 2: it's not going anywhere. It's only going to be So
Speaker 2: it's like we can complain about it's taking up jobs,
Speaker 2: or we can try to get on a different side
Speaker 2: of this thing. But it's a real situation and it's
Speaker 2: gonna only more and more jobs I think are just
Speaker 2: going to be lost because it's just more efficient from
Speaker 2: a business standpoint. So what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: I'll say it this way. That's where when your first question,
Speaker 4: first question dealing with capitalism, now we are back at
Speaker 4: it now on the negative end, because if you're willing
Speaker 4: to hire a robot versus a man who has been
Speaker 4: doing this for twenty years, probably went to school for it,
Speaker 4: or if it's just a warehouse job. He's a good worker.
Speaker 4: You know, he comes in on time. Young brother, he's
Speaker 4: like twenty five years old. You know, we got two children.
Speaker 4: He works hard, that's what he does. You'd rather not
Speaker 4: do that because of the higher liability, et cetera. He
Speaker 4: may get injured, sue you whatever. All right, I put
Speaker 4: a robot there, business wise, sounds very sound. I mean
Speaker 4: robot gets you know, beat up, whatever, don't matter. A robot,
Speaker 4: I just make buy another one whatever, or I have
Speaker 4: insurance on it. Sounds amazing. Here's a problem, how many robots?
Speaker 4: How many jobs? First of all, do you think it
Speaker 4: will take for the system to understand that eventually it's
Speaker 4: going to hit you, the rich, the people making all
Speaker 4: the money, because after a certain point, you can't have
Speaker 4: robots for everything. This is what these futuristic movies come
Speaker 4: into play. When it comes to all the way from
Speaker 4: terminator all the way over to I robot. It's I'm
Speaker 4: dropping lot of names, all these different things where people
Speaker 4: have to understand. The moment you start making technology and
Speaker 4: you give it artificial intelligence, you're now delving into the
Speaker 4: area of God. After a certain point, like giving robots
Speaker 4: citizenship in Saudi Arabia. Now you got a driver's license.
Speaker 4: Now it's like, okay, we'll hold on, hold on, see
Speaker 4: what what you doing? What are you doing? There is
Speaker 4: a limit here, Like let's say, we have to maintain
Speaker 4: our humanity. Money cannot be your God. That's why some
Speaker 4: people they say they believe in God. But people when
Speaker 4: it comes to money, some of them believe in God, gold,
Speaker 4: oil and drugs. God not actual you know, the Supreme Being, etc.
Speaker 4: You have to look at your humanity here is that
Speaker 4: much money worth it? Well, I just got I gotta
Speaker 4: have I gotta be a billionaire, a trillionaire and all that.
Speaker 4: But at the expense of people who actually live their lives.
Speaker 4: This is where that evil and wicked type of mentality goes.
Speaker 4: So we have to be very mindful here. You can
Speaker 4: still employ people, have your robots, etcetera. But if you
Speaker 4: want to have robot technology, okay, good, help them go
Speaker 4: clean up the neighborhoods. Send robots to go help the
Speaker 4: people who are homeless, people who are you know, medically handicapped, etcee.
Speaker 4: That there are many different areas that we need. But
Speaker 4: y'all gonna send it to the jobs to take it
Speaker 4: away from the people who actually working hard to take
Speaker 4: care of their family. So I'm not interested in the
Speaker 4: way they're doing it. The issue is that they're going
Speaker 4: to keep doing it as long as the people allow it,
Speaker 4: and also as long as the people keep putting their
Speaker 4: hands out for these jobs rather than doing for self,
Speaker 4: rather than pooling your resources with your own community, your
Speaker 4: own people, and setting up your own companies, your own
Speaker 4: jobs to where you will survive because this whole economic situation, Bro,
Speaker 4: Blacks and Mexicans, for the majority, we are the warehouse workers,
Speaker 4: We are the bus boys, We are the ones who
Speaker 4: work for these cab companies. We are the ones who
Speaker 4: work being waiters and waitresses and all this kind of stuff,
Speaker 4: all of these jobs. Bro, the people who do sub
Speaker 4: with all this stuff, we are the workers for that.
Speaker 4: So pretty much all of those they can replace with robots.
Speaker 4: And they have looked at that. That's why he was
Speaker 4: saying that. Jay, he was like, you know, I think
Speaker 4: he said about the year was say twenty fifty or
Speaker 4: twenty thirty two, one of those two. He said, A
Speaker 4: large chunk of the jobs are going to be replaced
Speaker 4: by robots because that's they're projecting it, because they're planning it,
Speaker 4: and it's very sound. So again, we got to get
Speaker 4: back to us building our own things and doing for
Speaker 4: self because the corporate pocracy, this corporate government and system,
Speaker 4: they are going to do what they want to do,
Speaker 4: but if they don't have our cooperation and our involvement,
Speaker 4: then it won't affect us. We got to pull out
Speaker 4: of this system, bro, and establish our own the only
Speaker 4: way we're going to survive this.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, that's crazy that you said that.
Speaker 3: I actually really wrote that down the gold, oil and drugs,
Speaker 3: because that's a conversation Shotty and out we always have,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yo, you can't serve two masses and
Speaker 3: so like that used to be like like my brother
Speaker 3: he's actually a pastor now, but we used to have
Speaker 3: this conversation like you can't serve two masses. You're gonna
Speaker 3: love one and hate the other. That would lead to
Speaker 3: like a three hour conversation about money. Yeah, yeah, exactly before.
Speaker 4: We go there, be interested in technology, let me not,
Speaker 4: you know, Like that's what I got to say. Be
Speaker 4: invested in it, learn it, understand how it works, and
Speaker 4: then also use it for us as a people. We
Speaker 4: need to have technology when it comes to virtually everything,
Speaker 4: we just don't need to overwhelmingly use it to where
Speaker 4: we say, okay, good, I'm gonna use all this technology
Speaker 4: and not give the way for my brothers and sisters
Speaker 4: to make their own money and to have a livelihood.
Speaker 4: Not let's use it to help us to maintain a
Speaker 4: livelihood and to medlhood. That's what we have to do.
Speaker 4: So we have to use it for the progressive way
Speaker 4: rather than it, you know, being a heavy, wicked capitalistic way.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just make all this and I'll give it
Speaker 4: damn if you eat or you eat, it's all about me.
Speaker 2: So, speaking speaking of technology, Kingdom Pay Yes, sir? What
Speaker 2: is can we talk about Kingdom Pay.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir? Kingdom Pay partially owned Branti Jackson, another brother myself.
Speaker 4: It is the black owned version of cash app, Venmo, PayPal,
Speaker 4: et cetera. People, it's like finally legit. Yes, it's legit.
Speaker 4: Some of the top people in the top companies, people
Speaker 4: who have been training these companies have been doing this
Speaker 4: for a long time. Very powerful. It's it's I mean,
Speaker 4: it almost seemed impossible, you know, when I was approached
Speaker 4: with that idea, and when they brought it to men,
Speaker 4: they said, brother, this is what we're doing, this is
Speaker 4: what it is, and everything's set up, and I just
Speaker 4: I was like, finally, because this is what it means
Speaker 4: to do for self. We need to be able to
Speaker 4: have a way to transfer in sind and receive our
Speaker 4: own money. Because if we start getting our own money, cool,
Speaker 4: But if we're still transferring and using their systems with
Speaker 4: which to move it, then they still have our control
Speaker 4: or they still we're still to their control. So we
Speaker 4: have to have a way to move around all the money.
Speaker 4: So Kingdom paid, That's what it is. And it's because
Speaker 4: Kingdom pays. It's not about your religious group. It's about
Speaker 4: do you believe in God, the kingdom, you know, the
Speaker 4: king dome, the King that sits on the dome of
Speaker 4: your mind, whatever you call God him it hurt or whatever.
Speaker 4: Do you just believe that there's a supreme being boom,
Speaker 4: That's all that matters. We're not about all that nonsense,
Speaker 4: because again, when it comes to money, the color lines
Speaker 4: don't shouldn't matter. But when it comes to the control
Speaker 4: of your money, everyone should have their ability to control.
Speaker 3: Their own Listen, So Kingdom pays through an app and
Speaker 3: a website.
Speaker 4: It's right now, it is about to launch. It's a
Speaker 4: soft launch right now we're talking about it. You know
Speaker 4: it is go download it, definitely, but and it is
Speaker 4: free to download, same thing as cash paper, all of that,
Speaker 4: and it does all of the same things. And you
Speaker 4: also are able to invest in bitcoin. You're able to
Speaker 4: have your digital wallet, all the same stuff that you
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, it's it's legit, y'all. Definitely got to
Speaker 4: check it out, Maneah, when it drops, let us when
Speaker 4: it officially drops, let us know.
Speaker 3: And we.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 2: Speaking of crypto, I've seen you spoke about crypto a lot.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on on crypto? We have in
Speaker 2: my mind, I'll had some some some experiences with our
Speaker 2: own crypto.
Speaker 3: You kind of talked about we got to find some
Speaker 3: new currencies, and I'm like, all right, well, what's what's
Speaker 3: your thoughts on crypto?
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, there's so many of them, man,
Speaker 4: And now I mean it started with one uh and
Speaker 4: from understanding, was created by a Japanese man who goes
Speaker 4: under another alias so that he wouldn't be tracked and traced.
Speaker 4: Because this is something that this guy.
Speaker 3: Ud never get your name right, and now he got
Speaker 3: that one.
Speaker 4: But it's it's it's a trip man, because now you're
Speaker 4: looking at a currency that is universal, that can be
Speaker 4: used virtually anywhere.
Speaker 3: That is a very dangerous thing for game changes.
Speaker 4: Oh that's a game change because it's like wait, wait wait.
Speaker 4: And in America there are certain places where have a
Speaker 4: teams now Las Vegas, Atlanta, Atlanta. So it's like it's legit,
Speaker 4: it's real. When it first started, you know, ten twenty
Speaker 4: years ago, I believe a little over ten years ago,
Speaker 4: people were investing in it. The big coins were like
Speaker 4: I think a dollar. Some of them were like thirty
Speaker 4: forty cents, maybe two or three dollars. People who invested
Speaker 4: in that ten years ago are millionaires.
Speaker 2: Now there's a guy you're you know the pizza story. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so there's a guy Thabay. It's not familiar. When bitcoin
Speaker 2: first came out, this guy he was like just testing
Speaker 2: out bitcoin and it was a pizza rea and he
Speaker 2: exchanged with the equivalent. He brought a slice of pizza
Speaker 2: with I think the amount of bitcoin that he had
Speaker 2: now I think would have been worth like eighteen million dollars.
Speaker 3: Something like that, eighteen eighteen million dollars.
Speaker 2: Eighteen million dollars pizza pot. So that's uh wow, talk
Speaker 2: about a mistake. But it's crazy because bitcoin. We've talked
Speaker 2: about bitcoin on the platform before, but it's one of
Speaker 2: these things that's quietly creeping. It's almost that like twelve thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely was over eleven.
Speaker 2: It peaked at twelve twenty thousand years ago, and then
Speaker 2: he crashed and then he got lower as like thirty
Speaker 2: seven hundred a few months ago. But now it's like
Speaker 2: rising like upwards of close to twelve thousand.
Speaker 4: On the law. Nobody's watching, nobody's even talking about it.
Speaker 4: And that's why we have to you know, when I
Speaker 4: when I talk about it, and there are different forms
Speaker 4: of it. That's the main thing people have to know.
Speaker 4: There are so many different forms of so many different names,
Speaker 4: et cetera. Be mindful, be educated, get with people who
Speaker 4: are experienced in that. That's you can lose everything. You
Speaker 4: can buy this and it's gone tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We are we are proponents of that. And like we
Speaker 3: tell everybody the other time, we have lost money. We've
Speaker 3: literally lost money. Like we we try to make a
Speaker 3: trade and it disappeared to send it to the wrong
Speaker 3: address and disappeared. Like literally, it's in crypto space.
Speaker 4: That kind of stuff happens to Yeah, just be again,
Speaker 4: be careful, be mindful. Have somebody who's experienced, really experienced,
Speaker 4: successfully experienced, and then work with them and then start
Speaker 4: start low. Don't be don't toss your whole damns my savings.
Speaker 3: Do not just go. Yeah, and that's what you you
Speaker 3: are willing to lose. Exactly when I knew that it
Speaker 3: was real, and I forget the CEO of Ripple, but
Speaker 3: they had asked him this question. He was like, yo,
Speaker 3: what's the fastest way to get money from San Francisco
Speaker 3: to London? And somebody said a wire transfer them It
Speaker 3: was like nope, it's going to take two to three days.
Speaker 3: They like, put it through the bank. They were like, no,
Speaker 3: that type of money doing like over two hundred thousand's
Speaker 3: going to take seven to ten. And he's like, you know,
Speaker 3: the fastest way, get on a plane with two hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand and go to London. That's the fastest way.
Speaker 3: That's real, and that's why we have cryptocurrency.
Speaker 4: That's real, that's real. You see in mind, you see people,
Speaker 4: are you gotta understand this when it comes to the
Speaker 4: physical money and the crypto again, be smart about both.
Speaker 4: The gold you gotta look at it again because we
Speaker 4: see gold is rising. The silver coins of pre nineteen
Speaker 4: thirty three silver coins, you gotta look at those. You know,
Speaker 4: there are different things that you have to look at because,
Speaker 4: as I said, the American dollar is going down. So
Speaker 4: because of that, now you're forced. We're forced to look
Speaker 4: at other forms of currency. We just have to be
Speaker 4: smart about which ones we choose and how much we
Speaker 4: invest in each one. You know, whichever one has been
Speaker 4: seen to be the most valuable, the most solid, the
Speaker 4: longest record. Gold never's gonna lose value, right, that's the
Speaker 4: physical asset, good silver, et cetera. And whatever other ones
Speaker 4: that you have seen that have that type of longevity.
Speaker 4: Those are the ones you want to stick with first.
Speaker 4: And then of course you can look at the other
Speaker 4: forms of currency. You liveing in Africa, they check those out.
Speaker 4: You're living in Mexico, you're living in wherever. Look at
Speaker 4: how you can invest in transfer into those. When I
Speaker 4: went to China, I didn't know that I was supposed
Speaker 4: to go to the currency exchange area in the international
Speaker 4: termin of the airport. I didn't know I was supposed
Speaker 4: to give them my like two three hundred bucks there
Speaker 4: and then they'll give me back the currency, you know,
Speaker 4: Chinese currency. I know that I'm on a plane, like
Speaker 4: four hundred dollars in American currency. I get out there China,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to buy some food and they're like looking
Speaker 4: at me, like they look at you crazy.
Speaker 3: Your money's no good here man.
Speaker 4: That's when I said, oh, I get it now, Okay.
Speaker 4: See when you leave the country, you feel it. It's
Speaker 4: a big difference, especially like America's dollars is not accepted everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, China, Europe because it's strongly Europe is stronger.
Speaker 4: Even in Europe. It is crazy because I was in
Speaker 4: Europe and I was in France.
Speaker 2: I tried to use an American dollar and they was
Speaker 2: looking at me like I was crazy, like because it's
Speaker 2: less worse than the euro.
Speaker 4: So I had to get euros.
Speaker 2: And then I went to London too, and then I
Speaker 2: tried to use the euro and London and they looked
Speaker 2: at me like I was crazy because the euro's worth
Speaker 2: less than the pound.
Speaker 4: Come on, so it's like, yes, it's a real thing.
Speaker 4: You got to research it, and especially if you want
Speaker 4: to travel, if you want to leave the country, you
Speaker 4: have to understand, Okay, America's dollar is worth a dollar here,
Speaker 4: one of the euros or is worth half a year. Okay,
Speaker 4: so I need two American dollars for one year too,
Speaker 4: you know, for example, then you have to look at, Okay,
Speaker 4: how much money do I have to bring out there
Speaker 4: to actually make the equivalent of what I think is
Speaker 4: gonna be worth out here. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 4: to understand, you know, But but we really do have
Speaker 4: to look at other forms of currency, is my point.
Speaker 4: We have to look at it like we don't have
Speaker 4: a choice. Look at silver, look at gold, and again
Speaker 4: different forms of bitcoin have experts or get training. That's
Speaker 4: something that we're going to launch as well when it
Speaker 4: comes to that in online academy for people to be
Speaker 4: able to take trainings in those areas, because that's what
Speaker 4: we need to learn. That that was what was real estate,
Speaker 4: et cetera. But it's really that time, bro, So we
Speaker 4: have to look at other forms of currency.
Speaker 2: So message to the millennials, can you talk about can
Speaker 2: you talk about the book and what it entails and yeah,
Speaker 2: what's the science behind that message to the millennials?
Speaker 4: If you if you flip it over on the back,
Speaker 4: you'll see a picture of myself. You'll see Mostnoblajah Mohammed
Speaker 4: and it's the Fara Khan because this book was inspired
Speaker 4: by message to the black man HM. Okay, the same
Speaker 4: book again that Nip gave to Ti, the same book
Speaker 4: that was that's been read by well over ten million
Speaker 4: people that has sparked the consciousness of millions of people.
Speaker 4: And this one I said, Okay, for this generation, we
Speaker 4: need to know about some of the top topics affecting
Speaker 4: us as a people and then us as a human
Speaker 4: family on the planet. I need to put something in
Speaker 4: a book that if they shut my social media platforms down,
Speaker 4: this will be a guide for this generation to help
Speaker 4: them to navigate through what's going on. That's really what
Speaker 4: I looked at. The tipping point for me was in
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen. I believe are twenty seventeen pardon me, the
Speaker 4: FBI classified black people black youth who are interested in
Speaker 4: loving our people, being passionate, but also who are fearless
Speaker 4: and who will stand up to police brutality. They are
Speaker 4: now labeling us as bies or black identity extremists. It's like,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, so you call it black identity extremists,
Speaker 4: black identity extremists. So they came out with that, which
Speaker 4: is basically cold, a cold term for co Intel Pro
Speaker 4: twenty twenty. You know where they're going to try to
Speaker 4: infiltrate the black revolutionary groups and organizations that really are
Speaker 4: us just standing up and saying we demand justice. You know,
Speaker 4: we want freedom, we want equality. We're not trying to
Speaker 4: go out here and kill police and kill white foot like,
Speaker 4: that's not what we are about at all. But if
Speaker 4: the people are to understand what's going on, they need
Speaker 4: to have somebody to give them something specifically in this generation. One,
Speaker 4: the generation doesn't read that much, okay, which it works
Speaker 4: both sides of the brain, so reading is very important.
Speaker 4: But two, I said, I got to give them something
Speaker 4: that's going to go over social media. First of all,
Speaker 4: because I couldn't find a book that was really going
Speaker 4: over heavily social media. Chapter two is in there. The
Speaker 4: book goes over tell live Vision programming. They're telling you lies,
Speaker 4: and they're programming O visually by telling you lies. Okay,
Speaker 4: they got that in there. It goes over some of
Speaker 4: the mind control projects that are established through social media
Speaker 4: and through television, et cetera. It goes over unity and
Speaker 4: pulling our resources, our economics, and it goes over some
Speaker 4: of the cities more than just Tosa, Oklahoma, more than
Speaker 4: just rolls would, more than just central avenues here in
Speaker 4: La More. It goes over a lot of the different
Speaker 4: cities that we owned, where we were thriving, we were flourishing,
Speaker 4: we have business cota. It goes over all of that.
Speaker 4: That's the last chapter, which is talking about pulling our resources,
Speaker 4: establishing our own everything, et cetera. It goes over a
Speaker 4: lot of stuff, bro a lot of stuff that this
Speaker 4: generation needs to know about that they can navigate through
Speaker 4: this system. It's plain and simple. So I said, I
Speaker 4: got to find a way to put it in a
Speaker 4: physical form to get it out of here, because they're
Speaker 4: going to sh shut us down. They're gonna censor us
Speaker 4: at a certain point. Oh yeah, I know, So I know.
Speaker 4: That's the other thing I was looking. I was looking
Speaker 4: at the Congress who are trying to propose a bill
Speaker 4: to censor anyone talking about conspiracy, anyone talking about any
Speaker 4: type of conspiracy. Conspiracy is not a bad word. It
Speaker 4: simply means when two or more groups of people organizations
Speaker 4: are coming together to do something that is evil and
Speaker 4: or wicked. That's what conspiracy means. So that's not bad. Now,
Speaker 4: conspiracy theory is different, but conspiracy is not a bad thing.
Speaker 4: So America's trying to cover herself by saying, we're gonna
Speaker 4: take done all the videos on YouTube, We're gonna take
Speaker 4: down the videos on Facebook, Instagram, et cetera where it's
Speaker 4: talking about what we're actually doing, and we are going
Speaker 4: to censor, which is destroying the freedom of speech, which
Speaker 4: is in the First Amendment freedom of religion, speech, press, petition,
Speaker 4: and assembly. I said, if they do that to this generation,
Speaker 4: which is the social media generation, and we can't access
Speaker 4: the truth entirely from those who are really bringing out
Speaker 4: the facts, then damn it, they're gonna have their their
Speaker 4: information completely sifted in control and they will be mentally manipulated.
Speaker 4: I said, I can't let that happen. To put those
Speaker 4: things in the book, and it has now been called
Speaker 4: the number one handbook for this generation. It's been selling
Speaker 4: very well. It was my first product. I've been doing
Speaker 4: this work in the community, in the streets never had
Speaker 4: any products. I've never been about products. I've been about
Speaker 4: doing the community work. But you know, once you start
Speaker 4: realizing bills got to get paid, you got to find
Speaker 4: a way to you know, hey, this is what it is.
Speaker 3: This is your first book.
Speaker 2: You published it yourself, Yes, sir, self published. I created
Speaker 2: my own publishing company. Where can they Where can they
Speaker 2: get it from Resa.
Speaker 4: Islam dot com. You can go get it there, of
Speaker 4: course you click the link my body on Instagram. But
Speaker 4: Rea islam dot com. It is not going through Amazon,
Speaker 4: not giving the Derek Gray spoke to us about that.
Speaker 4: Like you said, hire your family and let them do it.
Speaker 4: Like I said, my packages, my my product handlers, my
Speaker 4: product managers, all of them. That's my family. They like
Speaker 4: they are paid to do that a living wage. You
Speaker 4: see what I'm saying, Like, we can do that. And
Speaker 4: so when you when you realize that you're buying this,
Speaker 4: first of all the information that's in here, a lot
Speaker 4: of people. Of course, I go over One major chapter
Speaker 4: is chapter six. It's depopulation. Okay, it goes with genetically
Speaker 4: modified organisms, it goes over vaccines, it goes a lot
Speaker 4: of stuff like that. A lot of the information in
Speaker 4: this book is very heavy information that I broke down
Speaker 4: and as easily understandable ways as possible. But I've had
Speaker 4: certain scientists read this, certain celebrities read this, and they
Speaker 4: hit me and they're like, listen, that's some heavy stuff
Speaker 4: in that book. Like that, that's some really heavy stuff,
Speaker 4: which is why I said, I'm not putting this on Amazon.
Speaker 4: I'll be damned they banned my book off the money
Speaker 4: cut over everyth I'm like, nah, because now there are
Speaker 4: families that rely on this. So people realize that when
Speaker 4: they buy this book, you're getting knowledged, which is totally
Speaker 4: invaluable and it's worth far more than what you purchase for.
Speaker 4: But you're also supporting families too, Black families. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That's what that's what y'all preach. That's
Speaker 4: what y'all teach. That's what we have to continue to understand.
Speaker 4: Is if there's something of value that is going to
Speaker 4: bring you solutions to help you in your condition, and
Speaker 4: you're helping your people the same time, that's what it's about.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So that's the win win right there, there's a win
Speaker 3: win bro Yes.
Speaker 4: Sir Resa Islam, it's been a pleasure rather been a pleasure.
Speaker 3: This is well worth the wait.
Speaker 4: Man, Man, man, my apologies man, but it's I'm honored again.
Speaker 4: I love the interview, brothers. I love the fact that
Speaker 4: you are educating our people about economics because from Marcus
Speaker 4: Garvey down to Molijah Muhammad even all the way down
Speaker 4: to our brother doctor Claude Anderson with power Nomics. You know,
Speaker 4: we have to take this on and really stop being
Speaker 4: the victim to everything that's going on. We can be
Speaker 4: the ones who create, we can establish, we can build,
Speaker 4: we can do this like it's really not hard. We
Speaker 4: can't actually do so. I appreciate you brothers doing what
Speaker 4: you're doing because I've been watching your network and y'all
Speaker 4: be considered. I appreciate it, y'ad appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Any any last words you want to leave the people,
Speaker 2: how can they follow you on your social media, hands,
Speaker 2: website and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, everything is under Resa Islam. Everything's on the
Speaker 4: Resa Islam until it gets shut down, hopefully not, and
Speaker 4: if they try to shut it down, I'm going to
Speaker 4: be on other independent apps as well, and I'm serious
Speaker 4: about that. But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: Continue to learn. Family. I just say that, continue to learn.
Speaker 4: Don't be afraid pull your resources. Don't think that you
Speaker 4: need to have a lot of money to be independent.
Speaker 4: Don't think you need to continue to work for somebody.
Speaker 4: When you can establish your own and do something for yourself.
Speaker 4: You can come together as a group, your family, your friends,
Speaker 4: the you know, like I said, whatever hood you're from,
Speaker 4: and establish something, find the need, see the need of
Speaker 4: the people, and provide a solution for it. It's real simple.
Speaker 4: That's why you see the young brothers selling water on
Speaker 4: the corners. You see people selling food, candy masks. Now everybody,
Speaker 4: you know, they'd.
Speaker 3: Find a way.
Speaker 4: We won't find our economic kingpins, you know when we
Speaker 4: want to like to do it. So just see the
Speaker 4: need of the people and find a solution for it.
Speaker 4: And you can make money off of helping your people
Speaker 4: with something that they actually need. So don't think too
Speaker 4: much about it. Really look at five things that you
Speaker 4: can establish and bring your people together. Your family, your colleades, friends,
Speaker 4: et cetera. And yeah, man, let's let's really come up
Speaker 4: out of the situation. We're not going down with this government.
Speaker 4: Troy housekeeping items.
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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure, and once again, man, thank you to California.
Speaker 4: We love it out here. La Hopefully I'm gonna move
Speaker 4: out here, man, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3: We gotta make our way to Compton before we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fact. I was telling him all the day.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, let's go to Compton, man, like I
Speaker 2: just wanted to trying to go.
Speaker 4: What should we do? I'm gonna ask you off camera.
Speaker 3: By we won't be there.
Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, thank you guys for rocking with us. We'll
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