WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: It Takes Two To Tango?

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys this is the

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<v Speaker 1>the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, Heckma

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison and Knew He scrugs. Players line Tuesday, Let's ride.

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<v Speaker 1>That's ride a thing because I'm not liking Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. Hey man, you know he won a game,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know we'll settle ring break with Russ here. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>players are a little bit different today. We are brought

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<v Speaker 1>to you by Tostitos. We have Jesse Holly, Yeah, tar Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>tar Hill in the house, and we've got Ring of

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<v Speaker 1>Honor member Everson Walls almost he almost no, No, we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting no. No, I'm speaking I'm speaking into him, put

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<v Speaker 1>into into the universe. I'm speaking into a DITHI one

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<v Speaker 1>I speaking into It worked for Drew Pearson. Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>cried his way in and he told me, now I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, no, that's what he told me. Something you

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<v Speaker 1>need to cry to get its effective. He told me

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<v Speaker 1>that upstairs he need to cry to get effective. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what Drew told me so it was effective. But I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, man, it was effective. Now. I remember when Drew,

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<v Speaker 1>when Drew did TV with me, there a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times were getting ready to go on. Drew's about to

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<v Speaker 1>get on Jerry. No, I can't. It was about to

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<v Speaker 1>be when it were we're keeping it real goals. Uh No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to get a ring You're trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>ringing on it. Right, Okay, Then when I'm saying it right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say right, I'll say something, but you can't say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You think Jerry's not listening, But somebody is listening. Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>has ears everywhere. And you guys know because you have

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<v Speaker 1>your own family and friends who tell you things and

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<v Speaker 1>people say about you and you here so so yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you know Jerry listens for a fact. I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten callings in my times at the other stations. I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten after some postgame shows calls from some people and

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<v Speaker 1>been like, we talked to you here. Just I've been

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<v Speaker 1>calling to the principal's office at the time or two

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<v Speaker 1>before they say hey, we we we we appreciate your spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some things that you say that's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>too close to the vests Okay, so that was where

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<v Speaker 1>it sound weird. Yeah, that's not from my neighborhood. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't sound like that. No, no, no, they say differently.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna say a little differently. They but what a

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<v Speaker 1>corporate called they used. They use that language, right, the language.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of creepy though, because it's real nice. But

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<v Speaker 1>underneath that it's super nice. It's super like hey, just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, come up you you know, Jerry's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like Twitter, you know how you You're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>always talking with some people. You know, man, I shall

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<v Speaker 1>could you use some shoes or whatever? You just talk

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<v Speaker 1>to people. Then all of a sudden pops up on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone. You got a yeah, yeah, that's Jerry. Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>he's always listening. Look, yes, he is always listening. Um

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadline today nothing for the Cowboys, but boy around

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<v Speaker 1>the league headlined by Bradley Chubb of the Dolphins. So

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley Chubb is going to from Denver to Miami, and

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<v Speaker 1>Miami gets Bradley Chub a fifth round pick. Denver is

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<v Speaker 1>going to get running back Chase Edmonds, a twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three first round pick and a twenty twenty four fourth

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<v Speaker 1>round pick. So uh, that's that's the biggest name. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Washington making a deal. So William Jackson the

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<v Speaker 1>third has not been a corner of significance for them,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's moving on to Pittsburgh, and Washington receives a

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<v Speaker 1>future late round pick. Um Chicago gets Chase Claypool from Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers get a twenty twenty three second round draft pick,

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<v Speaker 1>which be high. It could be a high pick. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this from Justin Fields, unhappy, You're bad. You're bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Get somebody, gets some separation from the DBS, get some help.

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<v Speaker 1>So so if from Justin Fields, I have to be

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<v Speaker 1>happy about that. I do think there's nothing wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>trying to help your quarterback and use first round pick

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<v Speaker 1>on him. Helped the young man out, and he's talented. Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm sure you guys talked about it yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, you know I knew that he was always shifty,

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<v Speaker 1>he was always good, he's always smart. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>few panic moments in the game, but when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at how he threw some of those passes in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>if they catch those passes, they might be looking a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different outcome here, not necessarily winning, winning and losing,

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<v Speaker 1>but a closer outcome because I saw a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>guys I think it was Gauge going up trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get it, you know, and he could have gotten it.

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<v Speaker 1>You had one that was perfect throw by Fields. The

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<v Speaker 1>guy just couldn't bring it in over Brown. You saw

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<v Speaker 1>some really good passes, I mean, consistently good passes. Better receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to pull it in, and that's that's Claypool.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Claypool. T J. Hockinson tight end with the Lions,

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<v Speaker 1>now moved to Minnesota. So Minnesota gets t J. Hockinson

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty twenty three fourth round draft pick in a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty fourth conditional fourth round draft pick. In Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>is going to receive a twenty twenty three second round

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<v Speaker 1>pick in a twenty twenty four third round pick. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw yesterday where the Bears move Roquan Smith the linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>to the Ravens. Roke Quon sith they wanted out of there, so, um,

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<v Speaker 1>what no better place to go for your linebacker into

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<v Speaker 1>the Multimore Ravens. You know, ro Quan and gets paid

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<v Speaker 1>before La marguts paid. It depends what kind of contract

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<v Speaker 1>is you looking at. Here looking probably be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the highest paid linebackers in the league. I'll say yes

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Okay, I'll say yes. I'll say yes. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's if there's anything else that pops up in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I still think that the Cowboys, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>make a move, make it move for a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my opinion. What do you say? Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>I had said wide receiver before they got Hankins. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't thinking about how they should stopped the run

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to plug up the middle. But yeah, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that's a good one wide receiver. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>you got something out there, and they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be your number one. I don't think it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a number one, but someone of quality. Uh say,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Cooper looks good right now? We can bring him back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do you think can we can we

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<v Speaker 1>afford them? Talk to me. It only costs us a phone. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a Mark. Come on, I have Mark Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>in the fantasy league. And you are bawling right now

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<v Speaker 1>at home games, see, he continued on the road, he

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<v Speaker 1>eats not been good at home. I mean, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>like this is that's still a trid right. I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about your right that talk to him me. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I was on the side. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get in while I fit in. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there there is a level of comfortability, comfortability that comes

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<v Speaker 1>with playing at home. That's just what it is, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And people sometimes when I when I say, they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't matter that much. No sleeping in your own bed,

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<v Speaker 1>eating your favorite breakfast, you know, seeing your massu so

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, like everything, having your lady come

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<v Speaker 1>through whatever, whatever, whatever it is that might be a problem. No,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you need that's sometimes that's that's that's you know

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<v Speaker 1>the anxiety, you know, calm the anxiety. But just being

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<v Speaker 1>at home, yeah, you know the spots on the field

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, just all that stuff matters. Man, Just

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<v Speaker 1>the level of comfort when you're at home. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, teams offensive coordinators, they're more willing to do

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<v Speaker 1>things um at a higher clip at home, Okay, take chance,

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<v Speaker 1>They'll take more chances. You know, they feel comfortable as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowd control, all that stuff kind of plays a

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<v Speaker 1>factor into because at the end of the day, these

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<v Speaker 1>are all humans, right, I don't care who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They trying to they people want to paint us as machines.

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<v Speaker 1>But the ocason is a human, the head coaches human,

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<v Speaker 1>the DC's human, the quarterbacks to everybody's human. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you get into these different levels of games, and when

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<v Speaker 1>that when that pressure gets real high, and you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the road and the crowd, sometimes you tend to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more reserved. But when you're at home,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like being you're talking about it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like being on your block. You can't come to my

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<v Speaker 1>block and just talk to me on any kind of way. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you catch me on your side of town,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be able to say a few things to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd be like, you know what, you got it?

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta ho me got it. I got receipts on

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper got receipts all right. At Carolina Game one, four

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<v Speaker 1>point seven points. In Fantasy Week two at the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>at home, now I'm sorry. The Jets at home twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six point one against the Steelers at home twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>point one. Goes on the road to Atlanta one point

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<v Speaker 1>nine and Atlanta Atlanta Okay, then at home against the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers twenty point six home against New England fourteen point

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<v Speaker 1>four at the Ravens drips down to ten point four

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<v Speaker 1>at home against Cincinnati, twenty three point one. Dude balls

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<v Speaker 1>at home. Dog on the road. He's teams. He's on

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<v Speaker 1>a buy next week. So he's on a buy next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he's at Miami, he's at Buffalo. I'm in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in trouble. So in any sport that you're in,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you go to Miami, it's always a bad game.

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<v Speaker 1>Always think like, yeah, I'm lost in Miami. Anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>go to Miami. Players, especially those who have a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit extended curfew in South Beach, don't get to early.

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<v Speaker 1>Always want to get you want to you want to

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<v Speaker 1>fly with minimal time. We're coming in at night. Our

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<v Speaker 1>problem was Marino. Yeah, well that was our problem. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have know, none of that other stuff. The heat

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<v Speaker 1>and everything was cool. Problem with Dan Marino. He pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good quarterback. Yeah it was okay. Yeah, they gather us

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<v Speaker 1>that night too. Mark Clayton went off for two touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>and both of them over forty yards. Fifty yards. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>that was you remember that again. Hey, look, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate Dan Marino we got him at home again.

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<v Speaker 1>It was eighty five Bears Monday Night football and this

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<v Speaker 1>was this happened to be eighty four, So yes, eighty five.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on good both years. Home game right there

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<v Speaker 1>in the Orange Bowl under your Bears come in there, undefeating.

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<v Speaker 1>They brought the seventy the part the seventy two team

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<v Speaker 1>out there. You know what, the seventy two team. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't lose. You've been defeated. That messid thing. Young are

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<v Speaker 1>the only ones that can do it. Yep, yep, this

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<v Speaker 1>is it, but it needs you to save it. So

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<v Speaker 1>so that was that was it. Their soulder trades right now,

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<v Speaker 1>wide received for the cow Boys. You say, okay, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been on it for a while, do you have anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in mind? Just you know, we can't say we can't.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't say name, can't, we can't can't anybody's on

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<v Speaker 1>the track. We can't say. We can say Odell Beckham,

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<v Speaker 1>which I say, which I say no, what I say

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<v Speaker 1>no to as well exactly. But there's some other guys

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<v Speaker 1>who are he looks good on on on the internet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't look good, looks good, that's look I mean

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<v Speaker 1>when he put the bads on the schools. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be what it is. So when when when management says

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<v Speaker 1>we like our guys talking about the wide receiver, you

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<v Speaker 1>say bull okay, and you say right now, you like

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<v Speaker 1>him now, but we're gonna need need somebody for a run.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna need we need somebody for a run. And Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what is he looking like. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me say this to your Washington first, is I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why there's been this great talk about James

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<v Speaker 1>Washington coming. You want to do a numbers check. He

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<v Speaker 1>ain't never been a thousand yard receiver. He ain't. He

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<v Speaker 1>ain't better than know Ah Brown. So when you start

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<v Speaker 1>talking about James Washington is on the way, James Washington

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<v Speaker 1>on the way, I think it's a different aspect. He

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<v Speaker 1>might not even get on the field. It's a different aspect,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're talking about a different type of player. We

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<v Speaker 1>know you're right field. All I'm saying is he's available, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>be available. It's up to you to use him. They

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<v Speaker 1>they can't find ways to use a dynamic guy like

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<v Speaker 1>Turpin in the offense. If they can't find ways to

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<v Speaker 1>get Janen Tober going to the offense. Hell if they

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<v Speaker 1>can't find They finally found a way to get Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Gallup going last game, I don't know for whatever reason

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<v Speaker 1>when they turned on film while you guys kept running

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallop on curl routes and hitches. The man can't

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<v Speaker 1>run those right now. That's not in his wheelhouse right now.

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<v Speaker 1>They finally said I was ahead. I was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do we look at? I know he's coming back from

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<v Speaker 1>the from the ACL. He's not ready to run those routes,

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<v Speaker 1>anything where he has to start stop and he cannot

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<v Speaker 1>when he runs slants, bangates, uh, speed outs, anything that

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<v Speaker 1>keeps his body mode, the momentum of his the impetus

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<v Speaker 1>of the route going is where he's good. If he

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<v Speaker 1>has to start, stop and start again, he's no good.

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<v Speaker 1>But to the to the receiver point is the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>have to bring in somebody here that is able to

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<v Speaker 1>do things that a Marie Cooper did not saying being

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<v Speaker 1>a Mary Cooper. What I mean by that is you

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<v Speaker 1>have to overcome the deficiencies at times of your play

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<v Speaker 1>calling or your schematics throwing you or scheming you open.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what you need to bring in here. The

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<v Speaker 1>players that we have in here now, they don't run

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<v Speaker 1>good enough routes where they can run themselves open. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an elite level of route running when you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to run a route and get yourself open. Despite what

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<v Speaker 1>has been called special guys do that. Um not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that Ceedee Lamb, Ceedee Lamb has his moments. He's growing.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to get growing. He needs to get going,

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<v Speaker 1>get this growing. Whatever it needs to happen, it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. But to have receivers in here that have

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to, no matter what play is called, I

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<v Speaker 1>am good enough at the line of scrimmage, on my

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<v Speaker 1>release and at the top of my break to create

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<v Speaker 1>and make separation so that the quarterback can doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a perfect throw every time he throws it

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<v Speaker 1>to me. A lot of these throws that you see

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<v Speaker 1>Dak having to bake, they don't. They can't be off

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<v Speaker 1>because if they're off, that level of separation is so

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<v Speaker 1>minuscule that you're either throwing it in complete, throwing it interception,

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<v Speaker 1>or is getting is getting broke up. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys need to bring him. The guy that they

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<v Speaker 1>need to bring him needs to be a route running

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<v Speaker 1>type of guy who can who can overcome the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of creativity and schematics and getting those guys open through routes,

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<v Speaker 1>through picks, through overs, all different type of things you

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<v Speaker 1>can do. They don't have. They don't quite have that

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<v Speaker 1>at a high level right now on this roster. So

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<v Speaker 1>with Washington, what I was saying was, you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to have a thousand yard receiver. He doesn't he need

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<v Speaker 1>to come in as a past thousand year obviously, it's

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion you can still bring in a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>just uh, he's productive. He doesn't have to be dynamic,

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<v Speaker 1>but he can be productive. What I'm saying is, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to bring a guy like watching and use

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<v Speaker 1>him to his potential, use his speed. He's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bulk dude. He's not as small as Terping, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>as fast at terping. I don't think, oh he's shifty,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a guy that can take some blows and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe get down the field. I don't necessarily need a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand yard receiver, but I do need someone who's extremely

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<v Speaker 1>competent at what they do. When we bring him in,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just be a guy who's I wouldn't call

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<v Speaker 1>it idiots survived. You might you might not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything else, but this I can do. And

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<v Speaker 1>Washington needs to be a guy that can come in

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<v Speaker 1>and establish himself as being a do something to make

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<v Speaker 1>this team better in the passing game. Only. My only

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<v Speaker 1>pushback on that is, and I agree with what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>is that being able to see a guy's strength and

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<v Speaker 1>utilize that if you were telling me that was on

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive side of the ball. And dan Quinn he's

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<v Speaker 1>a competent enough coordinator to do so, you've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>done it throughout this time his time been here. Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>Moore to me, isn't a competent enough offensive coordinator where

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, hey, you do this really well. Here's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do. We're gonna deploy you on the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you do really really well. It's more so of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jason Garrett type method of, hey, here's our offense,

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<v Speaker 1>work work work, and that doesn't that doesn't necessarily create success.

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<v Speaker 1>And and that's how that's the difference between when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about having dynamic players or having the offensive minds

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<v Speaker 1>that we see across the league gets what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do really well well? If you're a man corner, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna keep lining you up in zone. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're a zone corner, I'm not gonna keep lining you

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<v Speaker 1>up in man. So all those type of things. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about bringing the guy like Washington in,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have the guys that are competent enough who

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<v Speaker 1>are calling the plays that are going to utilize his strimps,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say not quite yet. And that again takes

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<v Speaker 1>a less dynamic player and make him even more less dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course we'll have to see if James Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>once he gets on the football field, can he stay

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<v Speaker 1>on the football field, because that has been an issue

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<v Speaker 1>all right. When we come back yesterday, Fox Sports Radio

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<v Speaker 1>called me my boys, Chris Bassar and Rob Parker. They

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<v Speaker 1>had their they had their thoughts on how Tony Pollard

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<v Speaker 1>should be used. With Zekiel Ellie, I'm going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>The better go snatch Matter six and two football teams,

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<v Speaker 1>so U Jesse Holly, every SA players about you by Tostitos,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Parker, Christmas our longtime friends of mine. They do

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<v Speaker 1>were going to call me up and they're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we had this debate. We knew what you it saves

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<v Speaker 1>we want to bring you on here. Tony Pollard, Chris

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<v Speaker 1>you know Tony Pollard or Ezekiel Ellie and that we

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<v Speaker 1>think Chris. We think Tony needs to be the starter

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to get We probably say maybe sixty to

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<v Speaker 1>seventy percent of the carries over. Zeke like, guys, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with what they're doing? Now? What was gonna say?

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's working at all? We knew you say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Rob, oh knew. You just want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to ZIX camp. Go to you just want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you still get every deep because he's your boy.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, I said, look, I'm gonna go back

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<v Speaker 1>to what Skippy Pete told me in Denver during training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Skippy said, look, both guys are good and you can

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<v Speaker 1>win with two players. Like go back to my time

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<v Speaker 1>Felix Jones in the first round draft pick to go

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Barbara. He's like, you can. You can bring the

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<v Speaker 1>lightning and bring the thunder and you can win like

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<v Speaker 1>that over oh, by the way, seventeen games, one more

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<v Speaker 1>game at it. And I just said, look, you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Both guys are good football players, and they just thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was him in han. They want they want Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Pollard to get more and more carry. So I said,

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<v Speaker 1>let me bring it to you guys and see what

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<v Speaker 1>you think. What should the running back set up be?

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<v Speaker 1>How should the carries be divided up? Jesse, I like

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing right now. I do. And you can say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, football is a game of ebb and flow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a game of feel fluid fluid, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>come into a game and you can have one plan

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<v Speaker 1>and things don't kind of work out. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to adjust, and they've had that. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think whether you make Zeke the starter or whether

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<v Speaker 1>you make Tony Pollard the starter, my sole purpose is

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<v Speaker 1>are we running with effectiveness? That's it. That's my sole purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>are we running with effectiveness? And you talk about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you call them skippy Pete. I've never called him skippy Pete.

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<v Speaker 1>I called him skip. But I was here what the

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<v Speaker 1>cowboys had Felix Jones and Marian Barber, and it worked well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the cowboys got a little bit cocky and

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<v Speaker 1>arrogant and say, we don't need Mary and barbarin anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Felix Jones, you're going to be the featuring back, and

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<v Speaker 1>they ruined them. They made him put on all that

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<v Speaker 1>weight and add the pounds and he lost what in

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<v Speaker 1>essence was who he was. The elusive this to shifting

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. The speed, and Felix had the speed where

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<v Speaker 1>you would watch him and it didn't look like he

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<v Speaker 1>was running away from dudes. But all you would see

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<v Speaker 1>was this. You just see that gap get wider and

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<v Speaker 1>wider and wider. But you know, it looked his speed

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<v Speaker 1>looked different than what a commodity turpis speed looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for Tony Pollard, Jerry said, this morning on

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<v Speaker 1>the Flagstiff station, they asked him, you know who's the

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<v Speaker 1>better back, and he said neither. He said, they're just

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<v Speaker 1>good at what they do. And that's okay. We always

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<v Speaker 1>get into this point. We live in this society now

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<v Speaker 1>where someone has to be the de facto number one,

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<v Speaker 1>there has to be a king, there has to be

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<v Speaker 1>and at times in this position, the way the National

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Football League has gone. Look around the league. Everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>two running backs, everybody. It just so happened that the

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<v Speaker 1>Joneses got fleeced a little bit on one of their

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<v Speaker 1>running backs and he made him pay him. He made

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>them pay him a whole lot of money. So people

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>are looking at that and saying, I think that's where

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>you make a good point, because my whole number one

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<v Speaker 1>question is why do you care? Why is it so

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<v Speaker 1>important to you that Tony Pollard overtakes Zeke? And I

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>think that's what it is. He got paid, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact when you get paid, then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>the media is gonna come around and they're gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>are you worth it? Oh? Look at him. Now, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not doing this, he's not doing that trying to play

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<v Speaker 1>through pain because he got paid so that that that

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 1>dollar bill, it has affected both sides. So now when

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>he comes back this year, I think Zeke is running

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<v Speaker 1>his ass off. I really do. I like the way

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<v Speaker 1>he looked was that Philadelphia was the Giants when he

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<v Speaker 1>scourged for like twenty plus yards. I hadn't seen that

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute. He looked good. I've seen him move

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>piles that are immovable that Tony Pollard could never move.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing that concerned me until this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope the trend continues, is was making too

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<v Speaker 1>many mistakes on pickups. And that's big man got you

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>gotta know what you're doing. Brought that up. I said, man, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's at least twice, and I think it's a Philly

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<v Speaker 1>games rush got kills. And when you want to talk

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 1>about buying up carries, what are you gonna do a

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>boy pass pro it's more as you're running back than

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.640
<v Speaker 1>just running the ball. And let's be real, let's be real.

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 1>This game, that offensive line provided all the holes you needed. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care who was running that ball. Zeke just

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<v Speaker 1>so happened he wasn't in the game. If he would

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:34.919
<v Speaker 1>have been in the game, those holes are vital for him.

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.880
<v Speaker 1>For Malie Davis, David's the same thing. He's hitting off

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.919
<v Speaker 1>five six eight yards of carry. So to me, that

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>offensive line has always been the key and when Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't running last year, to me, it was because our

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>offensive line was not blocking. Let me go back to

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>your your last head coach, Bill Belichick. People always talk

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>about how, hey, they have a they have a new

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.479
<v Speaker 1>game plan for every team, like, okay, this is what

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>we're doing here, Why can't you do that? When you

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>start to look at your running back situation of Okay,

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.479
<v Speaker 1>is this a game that more suited the Tony can

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<v Speaker 1>get here and get to the outside or is it Zeke?

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I'm just sitting here and I think about,

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<v Speaker 1>you have two good weapons. Why are we Why why

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<v Speaker 1>is this this fight that you Hello, you could only

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>use one or this one you get more of the other.

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<v Speaker 1>What the game dictate? The opponent dictate how you use

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<v Speaker 1>the guys to the best of your ability. It's like

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Jesse was saying about, sometimes your game plan is ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Okay, that's good. You can have a game

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>plans ready to go, but you might get in the

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.360
<v Speaker 1>game all of a sudden, you're a right guard. It's

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>getting his ass, kid, and it's messing up everything. So

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you gotta make an adjustment. So, yes, the game plan

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>is great, I don't care what the game plan is.

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:48.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know what the outcome is. You

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<v Speaker 1>understand to me, I don't care about the game plan.

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I care about the outcome. And if that game plan

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>worked its way into a negative outcome, then I'm not

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>looking at running backs, look into somebody else, and I'm

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>looking at Kell. And that goes back to what I

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>was saying in a previous segment. Do we have the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive minds to be able to make those type of

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<v Speaker 1>adjustments both weekly and end game Because you talk about

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick, your last head coach, my last head coach,

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and being able being able to go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>to have a divise a game plan for every single

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>opponent differently, that is one of the biggest things that

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<v Speaker 1>I I dislike so much about what Jason Garrett was

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>as an offensive coordinator. It was this, you know here,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my fifteen plays, here's what we're doing, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we do. This is what we're doing. And if

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and if what we have on this what we have here,

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>we heard and we got to execute better. Way. No, No,

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>sometimes the stuff that you have here it ain't working,

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't working. Well. What was the game we saw

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>it off like crap firstree plays. I'm sorry, I shouldn't

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>know this, but the first three plays worth the crap

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and we denver I'm sorry Tampa. The Tampa game, we

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<v Speaker 1>tried to come out with this, this script, and it

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>was downhill from second down on. It was downhill for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the game. Because he came out with that.

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that was at one point we had a

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<v Speaker 1>challenge that could have been challenged on the on the

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>third down run, we already got minds made up. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna rush up and still run our fourth down play

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>when all he had to do was just slow things down,

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<v Speaker 1>call a timeout, and let's check and see if we

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<v Speaker 1>want to review this. See, so when your mind's made

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>up to continue with the script, sometimes you just gotta pause. Now,

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>let's pump our breaks right quick? Is this what we

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>want to go right here? Because right now we thought

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Zeke was gonna break for five. Zeke broke for twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>So now do I still want to call that same

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>play again? We might be in a whole different part

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>of the field to I could maybe make a change.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I don't like script it because the game

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is too fluid. Just like you guys said, let's get

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>our second break in here when we come back. A

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>real simple question, Jesse, You've been talking about it, so

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna hit you with it next because because

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just real simple. It's a real simple question. Um,

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>let's not duck and die. Let's not duck and dow Jingal,

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<v Speaker 1>finish the question. No, because trust requires three things, time, proof,

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<v Speaker 1>more from Kellen Moore. He's gotten better. Right, you're convincing me?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you convincing yourself? Who? Who are you trying to convince?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he caught a good game the other day. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I caught a good game. My book back is in

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<v Speaker 1>my car. But the notes that I was writing while

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching that game, I just stopped at one

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<v Speaker 1>point in time and I wrote w oh w exclamation point,

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<v Speaker 1>exclamation point underline at three times because that's what I felt.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Wow, what a clean game, What a

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<v Speaker 1>what a precise game, What a game that was hitting

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<v Speaker 1>on all cylinders. Man was dacked so in control and

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<v Speaker 1>confident and just everything was working for them. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's moments in that game where we call it he

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<v Speaker 1>glitched end in the second quarter, he started things start

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<v Speaker 1>going so well. He can't help himself. He just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got this thing going, but but I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>this whoa bud, Yeah, whoa whoa buddy, laughing and laughing yeah,

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>like whoa buddy, Like you already had it going, you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, it's too many of it's too much

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<v Speaker 1>of that at times. It's it's it's the inability to

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<v Speaker 1>be creative. And there's a very distinctive difference than creative

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and tricky, because I feel when you start running trick plays,

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you've already conceded that you can't beat me straight up.

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>That's right as a play. When you start doing two plays,

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you can see that you can't straight up. So when

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you get creative and that's tricky, that's creating two very

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>distinctive things. So when I first touchdown, that's creative. Creative

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>is when you go and you're going to now you

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and the three tight end personnel, when you start running

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, Like, creative is doing stuff like that.

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Creative is getting in your bag and schematically doing this thing.

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>You start determining the pace of the game when you

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>start doing trip of reverses. The bare work come on.

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>When you start lining up see lamb in the backfield.

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't come on you line up, see the lamb in

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the backfield in the fourth quarter when you up almost

0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>three touchdowns? For why? Practice? Practice? What he almost got

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>his leg as they come running in at his knees.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Why why are we doing this? Yeah, but he's a

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>football player. Why are we doing he got he gotta

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>be able to take it. No, no, he does it.

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 1>No no, no, he's skinny, and that he's wiry man.

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>And and he's been in practice, and he's been on

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:24.839
<v Speaker 1>any report with a bad hip. Oh but you want

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>running back? And we up two touchdowns in the fourth

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>the thirty fourth quarter. Why So there's moments when Kelly

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Moore maybe he wanted to put something else on the

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>future opponent's minds. Put put put put put back there.

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I say, put one of the crash dummy's back there,

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>not your number one receiver in the fourth quarter? What

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>are we doing? And there's certain things to look over.

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>The ego. Somebody pop him, somebody pop him, stop him

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>from doing this crazy stuff. So no, I do not

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>trust him. And there's evidence during his tenure here that

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 1>he is not trustworthy in the moments that we need

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>him to be the most trustworthy, no devil's advocate. I

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 1>am starting to trust him. I'm starting to assistance what

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned these last I'd say three games. You know,

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the way he coached with Cooper Russia in there. He

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>had to make a pivot. He had to Uh. He

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>knew it wasn't gonna work where he had in mind

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>when we lined up before we played Tampa. He knew

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>this wasn't gonna work for Cooper. To me, that's a

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you can can say, Okay, I need

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to make a change. Yeah, it's like being a relationship.

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>All right, it ain't you with me? Now? He gets it,

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's not. He's more conservative in his calls.

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.959
<v Speaker 1>The running game is working. Our offensive line has given

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>him the ability to be a little bit more diverse

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>than what he's doing. So I'm starting to trust him

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>right now. And if he continues, if he continues to

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>to to stay on this pace, then we have to

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.720
<v Speaker 1>see those games that come through where the wide receivers

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>are not so wild open, the holes are not so

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 1>big this time, because those those games are gonna come.

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>He trust me. What what what Dak was going against

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>with Tampa totally different from what he saw in the

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 1>secondary right after the last week. The comparison that I

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>used when Dak was coming back with Kellen Moore is

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>we've all been there, right, We've all been there when

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>we've had a little bit longer month than we had money.

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>And now it's more peanut butter and jelly sandwich, bloodoos

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and noodles. You know what I'm saying. Oh, but when

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 1>that direct deposit hits, Oh when when? When? When when

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that check come? The ghost? Still your meals look a

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:40.839
<v Speaker 1>lot different. You got state and got your trab legs, right,

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>and so before you were saying, well, I gotta make

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>do with what I gotta make, and that was that

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>was the time with Cooper Rush. I gotta make do

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>what I gotta make do. I don't have the funds

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 1>or the means to really splurge. And then you get

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott back, and now sometimes he started that glitching

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, oh, but do so much. I give

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>me the give me the real bob medium, give me

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 1>the crab legs, give me the big scrimps. Go out

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the tomahawk, go out there and get them more fresh

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.800
<v Speaker 1>barbecue ribs down there, hard and the crock pot. I

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>can afford the drive. I can afford the drive I got, Yeah,

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I drive. You don't have to get that. Jest, how

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the crack pot there you go? You go crackpot rift, Ye,

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I want some craft. Get out of here. Man, we're

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>not gonna do this. Remember that we're not gonna do this.

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna do the stay on tasks, stay sick.

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I got these crackpot ri stayale tasks. They ain't never

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>liked me from my cooking. Now you know that. You

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>know that, dude, they ain't never liked me from my cooking.

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Players loud. Yeah, we need to get this man of

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>spots so we do not have a section like we're

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna give him ten minutes. If it's Christy, it's for me,

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I will take it. Chris beeB who is an official

0:39:56.160 --> 0:40:00.799
<v Speaker 1>caps do we have for smoking j Jimmy Jay got

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>somebody somebody who make a grill is being sponsored by

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the gat one. If they have it, then doug on it.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be soon coming around the corner. I mean,

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Jared got every spin, they got a penny smiles, so

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>they got everybody. The sponsors that big, that big barbecue

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>event this weekend. You know that big barbecue event. Maybe

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 1>somebody will get me a you're going right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>but they don't have like eight like barbecue like tickets

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the official grill Love the Dallas. I mean, we got

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>some listeners that that make their own pits. Make me

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a pit, somebody make me a smaller pit. I don't

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 1>need a big pit. I don't need to put them

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.359
<v Speaker 1>back in my trailer, right, maybe a small one. Yeah,

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't need Brady James, by the way, can throw down.

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah Brady, Yeah yeah, yeah, by Brady's like and everything,

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:47.800
<v Speaker 1>not just not just like Brady's like almost like borderline

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>chef ish what Yeah yeah, h b Jes taught me

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>some stuff. He's a chef. Yeah. I don't know if

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>because of that, but yeah, well barbecue. I talked to him. No,

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about you. He threw up the hooks. No, no, no, no,

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I was. He thought the hooks. He thought the hooks.

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I see, I know you sweat? Are you swat? Are

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you swack? Are young with your man? And you swast

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>wrong with your man? You off? You get off me?

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>You didn't raise him right, he got him? So So

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>what Eddie Robinson Judy sent me you know, he didn't

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>raised this man. He didn't raised this man. He didn't

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 1>plays that. He don't why we had the show together

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Swacking Motion, me and Eddie Robinson Junior in Birmingham, Alabama,

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and then we did for two years. Dude, he's gotta

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>be never acted like that when he was on the show.

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>He was always so cold and swam. He gotta be

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:47.320
<v Speaker 1>sick right now because what he sent as a shot

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>has turned into another medium marketing for Dion. And well,

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.840
<v Speaker 1>first of all, they don't many don't Dion gonna market anything,

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, because they didn't make wrap. So yeah, they

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 1>started it up. Now they threw it back in your

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>It was like it was it was equivalent of Philly

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.879
<v Speaker 1>fans booing through Pearson and he just gave it all

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>back to. Oh oh that's what you want gonna give

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 1>it all back to and they just had to sit

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>there and take it. Ye listen there and take it man.

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, it's tripped now. But yeah, yeah, that's

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>that's that's one of the funny things. And then then

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>it's my swack school. Yeah, Alabama State was where I

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>got accepted to. That was so I was gonna go

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 1>down and play for a year. I was gonna play.

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna play, So I just want to play

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 1>one year. Swat. Now are they in the same swack

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 1>because you got Swack East and West, And I think

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>because that's the case, they might get to see each

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Speaker 1>other again. You know, Swack championship? Does it was that

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Swack championship? Will it? Man? I don't know. Man, this

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 1>is college football, college football. But I wasn't cutting. Anything

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 1>can happen, yeah, because you were part of the players louds.

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what brothers don't understand. It's not just about playing

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>ball and going to school. You gotta stay focused. Rather

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>like him plays louds. He can't stay focused. I can

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 1>see that about sitting down here right now. Because they

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't like it for his cooking. That's what he just said.

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you this what I got released from the Cowboys,

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and I got on the phone of my agent and

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>he said to me, what cities or what teams do

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to go to? I said, anybody's open up Miami.

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Do not send me to my money. Oh. One of

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the greatest things that ever happened to me was Um,

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 1>who was the blackhead coach at Miami, played dB there

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Oh he was Randy Shannon, not

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>even he was a linebacker. Linebacker. One of the greatest

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.959
<v Speaker 1>things that ever happened to me was Randy Shannon coming

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to my school and I wanted I told him I

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>was wanted to play two sports, and he told me,

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>not atter you, you don't play two sports. At to

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you you might could run track, but at to you

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>we were about championship. And I declined my offer to

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Miami because goodness gracious, if you'd have got this Jersey

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>boy in the South South Beach with all of them

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty women, I would have I would have been I

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>might no, sister, seriously, I might have got hurt, like

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 1>someone might have really physically harmed man, because my attitude,

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>my attitude coming from Jersey to the South was from

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>so I'd met around and got one of the one

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>of them Zoe's girls, and one of them one of

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>them Haitians from from Little Haiti or from Opa Loaca

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>or and they'd have told me up. They'd have had

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 1>hanging smart though. See, you would have known your limitations.

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>My attitude. No, not eighteen year old, yeah, thirty old.

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Thirty eight year old Jesse is a way more smart

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 1>and way more competent of what's going on. Eighteen year old, Jesse,

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't tell me anything. There was nothing you could

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.359
<v Speaker 1>have told me. Yeah, eighteen years old, that's true. That's

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>eighteen years old. They had hurt me out there, So

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I ended up in Chapel Hill and got a championship

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>ring man playing Carolina basketball. Hey, guys, this was fun

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>because tomorrow grees Man, we'll do it again about Jesse Holly,

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Everson Walls. He is swacked. I knew he scrugs. He

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>he a Swag's the players Dallas Cowboys do. This has

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys Football Club.