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Speaker 1: Harrison and Knew He scrugs. Players line Tuesday, Let's ride.

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Speaker 1: That's ride a thing because I'm not liking Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: doing that. Hey man, you know he won a game,

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Speaker 1: so you know we'll settle ring break with Russ here. Uh,

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Speaker 1: players are a little bit different today. We are brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Tostitos. We have Jesse Holly, Yeah, tar Hill,

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Speaker 1: Honor member Everson Walls almost he almost no, No, we're

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Speaker 1: getting no. No, I'm speaking I'm speaking into him, put

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Speaker 1: into into the universe. I'm speaking into a DITHI one

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Speaker 1: I speaking into It worked for Drew Pearson. Well, he

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Speaker 1: don't know, no, that's what he told me. Something you

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Speaker 1: need to cry to get its effective. He told me

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Speaker 1: what Drew told me so it was effective. But I

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Speaker 1: tell you, man, it was effective. Now. I remember when Drew,

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Speaker 1: when Drew did TV with me, there a couple of

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Speaker 1: times were getting ready to go on. Drew's about to

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Speaker 1: get on Jerry. No, I can't. It was about to

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Speaker 1: be when it were we're keeping it real goals. Uh No,

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Speaker 1: ringing on it. Right, Okay, Then when I'm saying it right,

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Speaker 1: I'll say right, I'll say something, but you can't say anything.

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Speaker 1: You think Jerry's not listening, But somebody is listening. Jerry

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Speaker 1: has ears everywhere. And you guys know because you have

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Speaker 1: your own family and friends who tell you things and

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Speaker 1: people say about you and you here so so yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean you know Jerry listens for a fact. I've

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Speaker 1: been like, we talked to you here. Just I've been

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Speaker 1: calling to the principal's office at the time or two

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Speaker 1: before they say hey, we we we we appreciate your spirit.

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Speaker 1: There's some things that you say that's a little bit

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Speaker 1: too close to the vests Okay, so that was where

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Speaker 1: it sound weird. Yeah, that's not from my neighborhood. They

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Speaker 1: don't sound like that. No, no, no, they say differently.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna say a little differently. They but what a

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Speaker 1: corporate called they used. They use that language, right, the language.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of creepy though, because it's real nice. But

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Speaker 1: underneath that it's super nice. It's super like hey, just

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, come up you you know, Jerry's kind

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Speaker 1: of like Twitter, you know how you You're like, I

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Speaker 1: always talking with some people. You know, man, I shall

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Speaker 1: to people. Then all of a sudden pops up on

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Speaker 1: your phone. You got a yeah, yeah, that's Jerry. Jerry,

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Speaker 1: he's always listening. Look, yes, he is always listening. Um

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Speaker 1: trade deadline today nothing for the Cowboys, but boy around

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Speaker 1: the league headlined by Bradley Chubb of the Dolphins. So

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Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb is going to from Denver to Miami, and

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Speaker 1: Miami gets Bradley Chub a fifth round pick. Denver is

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Speaker 1: going to get running back Chase Edmonds, a twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: you've got Washington making a deal. So William Jackson the

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Speaker 1: so he's moving on to Pittsburgh, and Washington receives a

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Speaker 1: future late round pick. Um Chicago gets Chase Claypool from Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this from Justin Fields, unhappy, You're bad. You're bad.

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Speaker 1: You had one that was perfect throw by Fields. The

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Speaker 1: saw yesterday where the Bears move Roquan Smith the linebacker

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Speaker 1: I still think that the Cowboys, if you're going to

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Speaker 1: make a move, make it move for a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: That's my opinion. What do you say? Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: I had said wide receiver before they got Hankins. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about how they should stopped the run

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Speaker 1: Mark Cooper looks good right now? We can bring him back.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think can we can we

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Speaker 1: I have a Mark. Come on, I have Mark Cooper

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Speaker 1: in the fantasy league. And you are bawling right now

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Speaker 1: at home games, see, he continued on the road, he

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Speaker 1: there's something about your right that talk to him me. Man,

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Speaker 1: And people sometimes when I when I say, they're like, well,

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Speaker 1: They'll take more chances. You know, they feel comfortable as well.

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Speaker 1: that when that pressure gets real high, and you're on

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Speaker 1: it's like it's like being you're talking about it, it's

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Speaker 1: but if you catch me on your side of town,

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Speaker 1: And I'd be like, you know what, you got it?

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Speaker 1: Cooper got receipts all right. At Carolina Game one, four

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Speaker 1: Then he's at Miami, he's at Buffalo. I'm in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Mary Barbara. He's like, you can. You can bring the

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Speaker 1: that over oh, by the way, seventeen games, one more

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Speaker 1: game at it. And I just said, look, you can.

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Speaker 1: Both guys are good football players, and they just thought

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Speaker 1: I was him in han. They want they want Tony

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Speaker 1: Pollard to get more and more carry. So I said,

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Speaker 1: let me bring it to you guys and see what

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Speaker 1: you think. What should the running back set up be?

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Speaker 1: How should the carries be divided up? Jesse, I like

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Speaker 1: what they're doing right now. I do. And you can say,

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Speaker 1: you know, football is a game of ebb and flow.

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Speaker 1: It's a game of feel fluid fluid, and you can

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Speaker 1: come into a game and you can have one plan

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Speaker 1: and things don't kind of work out. You got to

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Speaker 1: be able to adjust, and they've had that. And so

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Speaker 1: I think whether you make Zeke the starter or whether

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Speaker 1: you make Tony Pollard the starter, my sole purpose is

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Speaker 1: are we running with effectiveness? That's it. That's my sole purpose,

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Speaker 1: are we running with effectiveness? And you talk about you know,

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Speaker 1: you call them skippy Pete. I've never called him skippy Pete.

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Speaker 1: I called him skip. But I was here what the

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Speaker 1: cowboys had Felix Jones and Marian Barber, and it worked well.

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Speaker 1: And then the cowboys got a little bit cocky and

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Speaker 1: arrogant and say, we don't need Mary and barbarin anymore.

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Speaker 1: Felix Jones, you're going to be the featuring back, and

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Speaker 1: they ruined them. They made him put on all that

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Speaker 1: weight and add the pounds and he lost what in

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Speaker 1: essence was who he was. The elusive this to shifting

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Speaker 1: you would watch him and it didn't look like he

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Speaker 1: was running away from dudes. But all you would see

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Speaker 1: was this. You just see that gap get wider and

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Speaker 1: wider and wider. But you know, it looked his speed

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Speaker 1: looked different than what a commodity turpis speed looks like.

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Speaker 1: And so for Tony Pollard, Jerry said, this morning on

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Speaker 1: the Flagstiff station, they asked him, you know who's the

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Speaker 1: better back, and he said neither. He said, they're just

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Speaker 1: good at what they do. And that's okay. We always

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Speaker 1: get into this point. We live in this society now

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Speaker 1: where someone has to be the de facto number one,

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Speaker 1: there has to be a king, there has to be

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Speaker 1: and at times in this position, the way the National

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Speaker 1: Football League has gone. Look around the league. Everybody has

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Speaker 1: two running backs, everybody. It just so happened that the

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Speaker 1: Joneses got fleeced a little bit on one of their

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Speaker 1: running backs and he made him pay him. He made

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Speaker 1: them pay him a whole lot of money. So people

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Speaker 1: are looking at that and saying, I think that's where

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Speaker 1: you make a good point, because my whole number one

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Speaker 1: question is why do you care? Why is it so

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Speaker 1: important to you that Tony Pollard overtakes Zeke? And I

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Speaker 1: think that's what it is. He got paid, and the

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Speaker 1: fact when you get paid, then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the media is gonna come around and they're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: are you worth it? Oh? Look at him. Now, he's

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Speaker 1: not doing this, he's not doing that trying to play

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Speaker 1: through pain because he got paid so that that that

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Speaker 1: dollar bill, it has affected both sides. So now when

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Speaker 1: he comes back this year, I think Zeke is running

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Speaker 1: his ass off. I really do. I like the way

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Speaker 1: he looked was that Philadelphia was the Giants when he

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Speaker 1: scourged for like twenty plus yards. I hadn't seen that

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Speaker 1: in a minute. He looked good. I've seen him move

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Speaker 1: piles that are immovable that Tony Pollard could never move.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that concerned me until this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and I hope the trend continues, is was making too

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Speaker 1: many mistakes on pickups. And that's big man got you

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Speaker 1: gotta know what you're doing. Brought that up. I said, man, um,

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Speaker 1: it's at least twice, and I think it's a Philly

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Speaker 1: games rush got kills. And when you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about buying up carries, what are you gonna do a

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Speaker 1: boy pass pro it's more as you're running back than

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Speaker 1: just running the ball. And let's be real, let's be real.

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Speaker 1: This game, that offensive line provided all the holes you needed. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I don't care who was running that ball. Zeke just

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Speaker 1: so happened he wasn't in the game. If he would

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Speaker 1: have been in the game, those holes are vital for him.

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Speaker 1: For Malie Davis, David's the same thing. He's hitting off

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Speaker 1: five six eight yards of carry. So to me, that

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Speaker 1: offensive line has always been the key and when Zeke

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Speaker 1: wasn't running last year, to me, it was because our

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Speaker 1: offensive line was not blocking. Let me go back to

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Speaker 1: your your last head coach, Bill Belichick. People always talk

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Speaker 1: about how, hey, they have a they have a new

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Speaker 1: game plan for every team, like, okay, this is what

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Speaker 1: we're doing here, Why can't you do that? When you

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Speaker 1: start to look at your running back situation of Okay,

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Speaker 1: is this a game that more suited the Tony can

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Speaker 1: get here and get to the outside or is it Zeke?

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm just sitting here and I think about,

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Speaker 1: you have two good weapons. Why are we Why why

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Speaker 1: is this this fight that you Hello, you could only

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Speaker 1: use one or this one you get more of the other.

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Speaker 1: What the game dictate? The opponent dictate how you use

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Speaker 1: the guys to the best of your ability. It's like

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Speaker 1: Jesse was saying about, sometimes your game plan is ready

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Speaker 1: to go. Okay, that's good. You can have a game

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Speaker 1: plans ready to go, but you might get in the

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Speaker 1: game all of a sudden, you're a right guard. It's

525
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Speaker 1: getting his ass, kid, and it's messing up everything. So

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Speaker 1: you gotta make an adjustment. So, yes, the game plan

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Speaker 1: is great, I don't care what the game plan is.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to know what the outcome is. You

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Speaker 1: understand to me, I don't care about the game plan.

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Speaker 1: I care about the outcome. And if that game plan

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Speaker 1: worked its way into a negative outcome, then I'm not

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Speaker 1: looking at running backs, look into somebody else, and I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at Kell. And that goes back to what I

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Speaker 1: was saying in a previous segment. Do we have the

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Speaker 1: offensive minds to be able to make those type of

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Speaker 1: adjustments both weekly and end game Because you talk about

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, your last head coach, my last head coach,

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Speaker 1: and being able being able to go out there and

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Speaker 1: to have a divise a game plan for every single

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Speaker 1: opponent differently, that is one of the biggest things that

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Speaker 1: I I dislike so much about what Jason Garrett was

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Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator. It was this, you know here,

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Speaker 1: here's my fifteen plays, here's what we're doing, this is

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Speaker 1: what we do. This is what we're doing. And if

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Speaker 1: and if what we have on this what we have here,

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Speaker 1: we heard and we got to execute better. Way. No, No,

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Speaker 1: sometimes the stuff that you have here it ain't working,

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Speaker 1: it ain't working. Well. What was the game we saw

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00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: it off like crap firstree plays. I'm sorry, I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: know this, but the first three plays worth the crap

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Speaker 1: and we denver I'm sorry Tampa. The Tampa game, we

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Speaker 1: tried to come out with this, this script, and it

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Speaker 1: the rest of the game. Because he came out with that.

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Speaker 1: I think that was at one point we had a

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Speaker 1: third down run, we already got minds made up. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna rush up and still run our fourth down play

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Speaker 1: when all he had to do was just slow things down,

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Speaker 1: call a timeout, and let's check and see if we

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Speaker 1: want to review this. See, so when your mind's made

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Speaker 1: up to continue with the script, sometimes you just gotta pause. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's pump our breaks right quick? Is this what we

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Speaker 1: want to go right here? Because right now we thought

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Speaker 1: Zeke was gonna break for five. Zeke broke for twenty.

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Speaker 1: So now do I still want to call that same

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Speaker 1: play again? We might be in a whole different part

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Speaker 1: of the field to I could maybe make a change.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't like script it because the game

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna hit you with it next because because

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633
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Speaker 1: think Kellen Moore has gotten better. I'd like to see

634
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: more from Kellen Moore. He's gotten better. Right, you're convincing me?

635
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: Are you convincing yourself? Who? Who are you trying to convince?

636
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: I thought he caught a good game the other day. No,

637
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: I caught a good game. My book back is in

638
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: my car. But the notes that I was writing while

639
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 1: I was watching that game, I just stopped at one

640
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: point in time and I wrote w oh w exclamation point,

641
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: exclamation point underline at three times because that's what I felt.

642
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, what a clean game, What a

643
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: what a precise game, What a game that was hitting

644
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: on all cylinders. Man was dacked so in control and

645
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: confident and just everything was working for them. And then

646
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: there's moments in that game where we call it he

647
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: glitched end in the second quarter, he started things start

648
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: going so well. He can't help himself. He just like,

649
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: I got this thing going, but but I'm gonna call

650
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: this whoa bud, Yeah, whoa whoa buddy, laughing and laughing yeah,

651
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: like whoa buddy, Like you already had it going, you didn't.

652
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: And to me, it's too many of it's too much

653
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: of that at times. It's it's it's the inability to

654
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: be creative. And there's a very distinctive difference than creative

655
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: and tricky, because I feel when you start running trick plays,

656
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: you've already conceded that you can't beat me straight up.

657
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: That's right as a play. When you start doing two plays,

658
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: you can see that you can't straight up. So when

659
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: you get creative and that's tricky, that's creating two very

660
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: distinctive things. So when I first touchdown, that's creative. Creative

661
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: is when you go and you're going to now you

662
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: and the three tight end personnel, when you start running

663
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: stuff like that, Like, creative is doing stuff like that.

664
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: Creative is getting in your bag and schematically doing this thing.

665
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: You start determining the pace of the game when you

666
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: start doing trip of reverses. The bare work come on.

667
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: When you start lining up see lamb in the backfield.

668
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: Don't come on you line up, see the lamb in

669
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: the backfield in the fourth quarter when you up almost

670
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: three touchdowns? For why? Practice? Practice? What he almost got

671
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: his leg as they come running in at his knees.

672
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: Why why are we doing this? Yeah, but he's a

673
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: football player. Why are we doing he got he gotta

674
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: be able to take it. No, no, he does it.

675
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: No no, no, he's skinny, and that he's wiry man.

676
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: And and he's been in practice, and he's been on

677
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: any report with a bad hip. Oh but you want

678
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: running back? And we up two touchdowns in the fourth

679
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: the thirty fourth quarter. Why So there's moments when Kelly

680
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: Moore maybe he wanted to put something else on the

681
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: future opponent's minds. Put put put put put back there.

682
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: I say, put one of the crash dummy's back there,

683
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: not your number one receiver in the fourth quarter? What

684
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: are we doing? And there's certain things to look over.

685
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: The ego. Somebody pop him, somebody pop him, stop him

686
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: from doing this crazy stuff. So no, I do not

687
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: trust him. And there's evidence during his tenure here that

688
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: he is not trustworthy in the moments that we need

689
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: him to be the most trustworthy, no devil's advocate. I

690
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: am starting to trust him. I'm starting to assistance what

691
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned these last I'd say three games. You know,

692
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: the way he coached with Cooper Russia in there. He

693
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: had to make a pivot. He had to Uh. He

694
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: knew it wasn't gonna work where he had in mind

695
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: when we lined up before we played Tampa. He knew

696
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: this wasn't gonna work for Cooper. To me, that's a

697
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: the fact that you can can say, Okay, I need

698
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: to make a change. Yeah, it's like being a relationship.

699
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: All right, it ain't you with me? Now? He gets it,

700
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's not. He's more conservative in his calls.

701
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 1: The running game is working. Our offensive line has given

702
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: him the ability to be a little bit more diverse

703
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: than what he's doing. So I'm starting to trust him

704
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: right now. And if he continues, if he continues to

705
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: to to stay on this pace, then we have to

706
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: see those games that come through where the wide receivers

707
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: are not so wild open, the holes are not so

708
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: big this time, because those those games are gonna come.

709
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: He trust me. What what what Dak was going against

710
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: with Tampa totally different from what he saw in the

711
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: secondary right after the last week. The comparison that I

712
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: used when Dak was coming back with Kellen Moore is

713
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: we've all been there, right, We've all been there when

714
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: we've had a little bit longer month than we had money.

715
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: And now it's more peanut butter and jelly sandwich, bloodoos

716
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: and noodles. You know what I'm saying. Oh, but when

717
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: that direct deposit hits, Oh when when? When? When when

718
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: that check come? The ghost? Still your meals look a

719
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: lot different. You got state and got your trab legs, right,

720
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: and so before you were saying, well, I gotta make

721
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: do with what I gotta make, and that was that

722
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: was the time with Cooper Rush. I gotta make do

723
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: what I gotta make do. I don't have the funds

724
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: or the means to really splurge. And then you get

725
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott back, and now sometimes he started that glitching

726
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: and he goes, oh, but do so much. I give

727
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: me the give me the real bob medium, give me

728
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: the crab legs, give me the big scrimps. Go out

729
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: the tomahawk, go out there and get them more fresh

730
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: barbecue ribs down there, hard and the crock pot. I

731
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: can afford the drive. I can afford the drive I got, Yeah,

732
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: I drive. You don't have to get that. Jest, how

733
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: the crack pot there you go? You go crackpot rift, Ye,

734
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: I want some craft. Get out of here. Man, we're

735
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: not gonna do this. Remember that we're not gonna do this.

736
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: It's not gonna do the stay on tasks, stay sick.

737
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: I got these crackpot ri stayale tasks. They ain't never

738
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: liked me from my cooking. Now you know that. You

739
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: know that, dude, they ain't never liked me from my cooking.

740
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: Players loud. Yeah, we need to get this man of

741
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: spots so we do not have a section like we're

742
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: gonna give him ten minutes. If it's Christy, it's for me,

743
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: I will take it. Chris beeB who is an official

744
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: caps do we have for smoking j Jimmy Jay got

745
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: somebody somebody who make a grill is being sponsored by

746
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: the gat one. If they have it, then doug on it.

747
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be soon coming around the corner. I mean,

748
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: Jared got every spin, they got a penny smiles, so

749
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: they got everybody. The sponsors that big, that big barbecue

750
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: event this weekend. You know that big barbecue event. Maybe

751
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: somebody will get me a you're going right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

752
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: but they don't have like eight like barbecue like tickets

753
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: the official grill Love the Dallas. I mean, we got

754
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: some listeners that that make their own pits. Make me

755
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: a pit, somebody make me a smaller pit. I don't

756
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: need a big pit. I don't need to put them

757
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: back in my trailer, right, maybe a small one. Yeah,

758
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: you don't need Brady James, by the way, can throw down.

759
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah Brady, Yeah yeah, yeah, by Brady's like and everything,

760
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: not just not just like Brady's like almost like borderline

761
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: chef ish what Yeah yeah, h b Jes taught me

762
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: some stuff. He's a chef. Yeah. I don't know if

763
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: because of that, but yeah, well barbecue. I talked to him. No,

764
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about you. He threw up the hooks. No, no, no, no,

765
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: I was. He thought the hooks. He thought the hooks.

766
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: I see, I know you sweat? Are you swat? Are

767
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: you swack? Are young with your man? And you swast

768
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: wrong with your man? You off? You get off me?

769
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: You didn't raise him right, he got him? So So

770
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: what Eddie Robinson Judy sent me you know, he didn't

771
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: raised this man. He didn't raised this man. He didn't

772
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: plays that. He don't why we had the show together

773
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: Swacking Motion, me and Eddie Robinson Junior in Birmingham, Alabama,

774
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: and then we did for two years. Dude, he's gotta

775
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: be never acted like that when he was on the show.

776
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: He was always so cold and swam. He gotta be

777
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: sick right now because what he sent as a shot

778
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: has turned into another medium marketing for Dion. And well,

779
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: first of all, they don't many don't Dion gonna market anything,

780
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: you know, because they didn't make wrap. So yeah, they

781
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: started it up. Now they threw it back in your

782
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: It was like it was it was equivalent of Philly

783
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: fans booing through Pearson and he just gave it all

784
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: back to. Oh oh that's what you want gonna give

785
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: it all back to and they just had to sit

786
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: there and take it. Ye listen there and take it man.

787
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: And then yeah, it's tripped now. But yeah, yeah, that's

788
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: that's that's one of the funny things. And then then

789
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: it's my swack school. Yeah, Alabama State was where I

790
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: got accepted to. That was so I was gonna go

791
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: down and play for a year. I was gonna play.

792
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna play, So I just want to play

793
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: one year. Swat. Now are they in the same swack

794
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: because you got Swack East and West, And I think

795
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: because that's the case, they might get to see each

796
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: other again. You know, Swack championship? Does it was that

797
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: Swack championship? Will it? Man? I don't know. Man, this

798
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: is college football, college football. But I wasn't cutting. Anything

799
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: can happen, yeah, because you were part of the players louds.

800
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: That's what brothers don't understand. It's not just about playing

801
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: ball and going to school. You gotta stay focused. Rather

802
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: like him plays louds. He can't stay focused. I can

803
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: see that about sitting down here right now. Because they

804
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: didn't like it for his cooking. That's what he just said.

805
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this what I got released from the Cowboys,

806
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: and I got on the phone of my agent and

807
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: he said to me, what cities or what teams do

808
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: you want to go to? I said, anybody's open up Miami.

809
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: Do not send me to my money. Oh. One of

810
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: the greatest things that ever happened to me was Um,

811
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: who was the blackhead coach at Miami, played dB there

812
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: for a long time. Oh he was Randy Shannon, not

813
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: even he was a linebacker. Linebacker. One of the greatest

814
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 1: things that ever happened to me was Randy Shannon coming

815
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: to my school and I wanted I told him I

816
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: was wanted to play two sports, and he told me,

817
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: not atter you, you don't play two sports. At to

818
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: you you might could run track, but at to you

819
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: we were about championship. And I declined my offer to

820
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: Miami because goodness gracious, if you'd have got this Jersey

821
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: boy in the South South Beach with all of them

822
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: pretty women, I would have I would have been I

823
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: might no, sister, seriously, I might have got hurt, like

824
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: someone might have really physically harmed man, because my attitude,

825
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: my attitude coming from Jersey to the South was from

826
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: so I'd met around and got one of the one

827
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: of them Zoe's girls, and one of them one of

828
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: them Haitians from from Little Haiti or from Opa Loaca

829
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: or and they'd have told me up. They'd have had

830
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: hanging smart though. See, you would have known your limitations.

831
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: My attitude. No, not eighteen year old, yeah, thirty old.

832
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: Thirty eight year old Jesse is a way more smart

833
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: and way more competent of what's going on. Eighteen year old, Jesse,

834
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: you couldn't tell me anything. There was nothing you could

835
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: have told me. Yeah, eighteen years old, that's true. That's

836
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. They had hurt me out there, So

837
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: I ended up in Chapel Hill and got a championship

838
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: ring man playing Carolina basketball. Hey, guys, this was fun

839
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: because tomorrow grees Man, we'll do it again about Jesse Holly,

840
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: Everson Walls. He is swacked. I knew he scrugs. He

841
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:08,600
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