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Speaker 1: What's up everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a new week of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Hyundai Texans Radio Studio. John Harrison, Mark Vandermier coming

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Speaker 2: at Yeah, glad you're with us as we approach June,

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Speaker 2: and June is such a great month. You know why

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Speaker 2: because the desert happens, and then what happens after the desert? Well,

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Speaker 2: training camp. We are getting that much closer. Mark, can

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Speaker 2: you feel the excitement going through your bones right now?

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Speaker 3: Well, Johnny, with OTA's launching this week. As you know,

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Speaker 3: and as I always like to say this time of year,

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Speaker 3: this is training camp. This is actually what happens. They

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Speaker 3: go to training camp right now. Wait a minute, it's

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Speaker 3: not called training camp. It's called OTA's which stands for

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Speaker 3: Organized Team Activities. But this to me is training camp

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Speaker 3: because you have four weeks of this, you'll have three

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Speaker 3: weeks of practice than the mini camp?

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Speaker 1: Am I right about that? Or is it four weeks

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Speaker 1: of this to the MIDI? Whatever?

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Speaker 3: It is OTAs one mini camp, all right, So that's it.

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Speaker 3: Four weeks of this, then the desert, and then two

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Speaker 3: weeks of camp then preseason, So that's six weeks of

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Speaker 3: action before you get to your first preseason game, which

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Speaker 3: is what it was in the old days. Basically when

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Speaker 3: they went to camp July first or whatever it was

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Speaker 3: in San Angelo, when Bum would have barbecues with the

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Speaker 3: family and Master he would go on a speedboat or

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Speaker 3: motorcycle or whatever it was. I love hearing stories about that.

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Speaker 3: But that's what's happening now. As they stay in town,

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Speaker 3: then they have the break, then they have training camp.

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Speaker 3: By the time they hit camp, virtually everything is installed.

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Speaker 1: They're good to go.

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Speaker 3: They're just trying to get hitting into the equation and

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Speaker 3: then ready to play games.

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Speaker 2: And that's a big part of it, the hitting being

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a getting your body calloused to physicality.

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Speaker 1: Again is not easy.

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Speaker 2: Training camp helps that in so many ways, so many ways.

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Speaker 2: So with Ota starting, well he started today, but we

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Speaker 2: get a chance to see them tomorrow. Yes, okay, because

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Speaker 2: today's so we get a chance to see them on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: So mark at the end of every school year, even

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Speaker 2: though this feels like the beginning of a school year

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Speaker 2: for the team, at the end of very school year,

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Speaker 2: there's superlatives. Mine was most likely to succeed, and that

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Speaker 2: was probably not one that they should have given me.

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Speaker 2: There was most athletic, there was funniest class clown, all

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Speaker 2: of those. Let's do our own version of OTA superlatives.

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Speaker 2: Wit all right, so here is the first superlative.

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Speaker 1: And you get to fill you get to fill in

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like a fill in the blank question answer, uh,

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Speaker 2: superlative sort of thing. The most off discussed OTA storyline,

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's not our disgust storyline, it's the disgusted right storyline?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: So what will they be talking about on Sports twenty

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Speaker 3: six ten the other stage s act. What will the

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Speaker 3: Twitter verse, as you say, be talking about? It is

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Speaker 3: going to be wherever CJ. Stroud lines up, what level

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Speaker 1: Will be it.

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Speaker 3: If he's with the threes, it'll be oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: he's with the threes. Watson was with the threes too,

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Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen when he started.

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Speaker 1: If he's with the ones, CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud will start opening to there's no way to sugarcoat,

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Speaker 3: hide the whatever cushion this. It is going to be discussed,

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Speaker 3: and it'll be discussed as soon as people see them

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Speaker 3: line up tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Wherever Stroud lines.

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Speaker 2: Up, no matter what, no matter what, this what you

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Speaker 2: just mentioned will absolutely no doubt be a talking point

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Speaker 2: for days, regardless if CJ. Stroud took every snap, regardless

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Speaker 2: of Shroud took no snaps, that's gonna be the uh.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's a hands down going away

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Speaker 2: Akim Olijawan slam dunk. I mean that thing wins the

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Speaker 2: superlatives and probably goes away from there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's take that and tweak it a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the most discussed non quarterback during OTA's player this

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Speaker 1: Is I'm gonna say Will Anderson.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Will Anderson because of oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: they gave up so much to get him, but he's

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Speaker 1: But here's he going to line up Johnny. It's all

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Speaker 3: The media, so much of the media is just going

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Speaker 3: I'll just paraphrase, this is my projection. I don't really

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Speaker 3: care where they line up right now. We're just trying

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Speaker 3: to get everybody acclimated. That's what he's gonna say. Right

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Speaker 3: They're trying to get everybody acclimated, especially the rookies, into

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Speaker 3: the NFL way of life, and they'll let it all

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Speaker 3: shake out throughout the offseason process and preseason, and what

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Speaker 3: really matters is how much you play on opening Day.

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Speaker 3: That is the most important thing. But I think Will

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Speaker 3: Anderson's positioning, as far as is he with the ones,

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Speaker 3: twos or threes, that's going to be discussed a lot.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree or disagree on that?

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Speaker 1: I absolutely agree.

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Speaker 2: I do think because of the Houston angle that Tank

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Speaker 2: Dell will be often discussed that Will that will surely happen.

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Speaker 2: I think that Will Anderson the I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: think there's any question because there was such there were

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Speaker 2: there's so many questions nationally in particular, did you give

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Speaker 1: Did you? I just I want to get past those questions.

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Speaker 2: I want people to watch Will Anderson uh and see

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Speaker 2: what I saw at Alabama, and that is he's a dude,

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Speaker 2: and you have a dude out on the edge, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be something that's definitely talked about. Now,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of his game that really won't you

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Speaker 2: won't have a chance to see because there's no physicality.

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Speaker 1: I should say there's no physicality there. There are no collisions.

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Speaker 1: But there are no collisions. I'll leave it. I'll say that.

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Speaker 1: But even when they do, and I don't, I don't

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Speaker 2: But though at least you know if if they line

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Speaker 2: of that. So I'm gonna throw another one in there. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the presence or absence of Texans at OTAs be it veterans?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, voluntary Again you repeat, OTAs are voluntary.

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Speaker 1: But it's going to be a big thing.

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Speaker 2: If said veteran is not there, or said veteran is there,

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Speaker 2: talk about Larimy tunsl and I've said this forever as

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Speaker 2: it's fine, the ot as are, they're voluntary, But that

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Speaker 2: that borders on topic most often discussed, that makes me

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Speaker 2: want to just bang my head against the wall.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's superlative. Is that topic? Oh who's here?

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Speaker 1: Who's not here? Oh? Why is he not?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, just okay, what's here? Let's watch that and

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Speaker 2: let's move forward. But I got a feeling that's gonna

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Speaker 2: be that's gonna be something that everybody kind of I mean,

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Speaker 2: we all know that that's gonna be something that everybody

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Speaker 2: pays attention to. Okay, I don't know if there is

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Speaker 2: a I try to think of a better way to

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Speaker 2: phrase this one. But the most improved throughout ots Now,

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Speaker 2: this is one that you're probably gonna have to anticipate

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Speaker 2: a little bit, but most improved player by the end

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Speaker 3: Oh, I want to do position groups so badly here,

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Speaker 3: but I've got to do player, don't I player. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna say. I'm gonna say here, here's who I'm rooting for, Johnny.

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Speaker 3: I am rooting for Brevin Jordan in a fake, big way, Okay,

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Speaker 3: to be that guy who's the most improved, who has

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Speaker 3: had his progress railed by injury other factors. I would

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Speaker 3: love to see him just rise up and take charge

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Speaker 3: and be right in the mix with Schultz, with Cotriano.

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Speaker 1: And he is in the mix right now.

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Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, rise up that depth

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Speaker 3: but be a real factor in twenty twenty three. That's

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Speaker 3: who I'm rooting for. And I'll just go ahead and

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Speaker 3: make it happen by speaking it into being.

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Speaker 1: It's BREVN Jordan. There you go. I like that. This

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Derek Stingley Junior because I and I know, look,

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Speaker 2: I know he's number three overall pick.

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Speaker 1: I know he's incredibly talented.

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Speaker 2: But you know, look, there were, let's be honest, there

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Speaker 2: were a lot of questions about staying going into last year.

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Speaker 2: You know, should have been to number three pick versus

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Speaker 2: number four. You know, he's coming off an injury at LSU.

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Speaker 2: Finished last year missing the last how many ever weeks

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Speaker 2: guarantee that we're not going to see partly any of

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Speaker 2: that scheme. But I just think by the end of

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Speaker 2: that's what we expected from Derek Stingley at some point

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Speaker 2: that at the end of OTAs. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: most improved. That's gonna be my my prediction of Derek

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Speaker 2: Stingley being that guy. Okay you mentioned let's go group, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's do it, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Who is the most improved group by the end of OTAs.

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Speaker 3: I am really excited. Obviously, everybody wants to see Stroud

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Speaker 3: if we have McLean on right now, he say, c J. S.

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Speaker 1: Draud is who everyone wants to see, and he's absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: But this running back group is something to see during

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Speaker 3: so excited to see what they have to offer. Johnny,

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Speaker 3: because when you look at year two for Damian Pierce.

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Speaker 3: When you look at Devin Singletary, twenty five years old,

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Speaker 3: prime of his life, coming off good numbers in twenty

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Speaker 3: that and Xavian.

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Speaker 1: Validae, I want to see what he does.

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Speaker 3: We talked about him a lot last week as an

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Speaker 3: undrafted free agent. That group with Dario Gounbowale, I mean

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Speaker 3: there are others as well. I think this really could

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Speaker 3: be the most improved position group on the team, even

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Speaker 3: though Pierce was a part of it last year.

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Speaker 1: You look at how they filled in man.

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Speaker 3: When you have Singletary coming off the bench for Pierce

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Speaker 3: or possibly Validate contributing as a rookie, or Dary looks

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Speaker 3: good when he's running out there, and he's good special

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Speaker 3: teams players, we all know. I'm excited to see what

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Speaker 3: they bring. Mike Boone is out there as well. I

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Speaker 3: think that they'll be Oh how about Gerald Doaks Dot,

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Speaker 3: Jared Doaksche Jared Doaks, who could you know?

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Speaker 1: I'll learn all these guys.

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Speaker 3: I promise everybody they could factor it as well the

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this Monday edition of Texas All Access.

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Speaker 2: John Harris, alongside Mark Vandery has time for gut reaction,

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Speaker 2: to get the voice of the Texans, gut reaction of

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Speaker 1: Now we'll start.

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Speaker 2: We'll start slow, okay, because I think we talked about

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Speaker 2: gut reaction to the Super Bowl sixty heading to the

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Speaker 1: They add fifty so they get sixty.

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Speaker 3: Good for them. It's a great place to a Super Bowl. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 3: This to me is not the biggest story of the day.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, we're starting slow here.

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Speaker 3: What are you gonna do. It's a nice stadium. We

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 3: Good job NFL. I mean, what are you gonna say,

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Speaker 3: it's a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Good? All right?

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Speaker 2: Number two, the NFL announced, well they've already announced that

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Speaker 1: Your gut reaction.

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Speaker 3: This is weird because where are people going to stay?

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Speaker 1: Johnny.

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Speaker 3: You and I were having a conversation, well was it

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Speaker 1: Something like that.

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Speaker 3: I said, no way, they can't do it in a

437
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: small town. You don't have enough resources there Green Bay. Look,

438
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 3: we're talking about they'd like the big numbers, right, Johnny,

439
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 3: We're talking about three four hundred thousand people converging on

440
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 3: an area to see the draft. You can't do that

441
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 3: in Green Bay. No way, can't do it. They can't

442
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 3: handle it. You've been there. I've been there. You've driven

443
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 3: very fast through there with me. It's not a good

444
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 3: place for that. It's a great place to visit if

445
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: you're thinking of going to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

446
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: Excellent. The plan B should should be to.

447
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: Go to Green Bay, see a game there and see

448
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: the Packer Hall of Fame, because it's pretty much the

449
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: prof puff thing when you think about the history of

450
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 3: what's going on there Green Bay. I love the place,

451
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 3: but not a good place to host the draft. However,

452
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: as I say this, you know, the league's gonna pull

453
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: it off somehow, even with fewer people.

454
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: It'll be cool.

455
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting how they how they fit

456
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: all those people in there. And one day, one day,

457
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: one day, when we when we do market John storytime,

458
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: we will tell the story for people that don't know

459
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: about our trip through Green Bay neighborhood in twenty nineteen,

460
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 2: because that was.

461
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: It was kind of wild. That was kind of wild.

462
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: Okay, there's this one which I don't even know if

463
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: I want to get your gut reaction.

464
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: This is just information. NFL owners also formally approved.

465
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: Streaming the late night Saturday Wild Card game on Peacock,

466
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: per League executive Brian Rolla app The game will still

467
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Speaker 2: be available over the air in local markets.

468
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: We already knew about that, all right, this is a

469
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: huge deal. It's a huge deal. But we've talked about that,

470
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: so okay, yeah, we talked about that. All right, let's

471
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: talk about this one. Go ahead, let's talk about this one.

472
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh boy.

473
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: NFL owners approved a modified proposal for flexing Thursday night

474
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 2: football games.

475
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: This was reported by Tom.

476
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: Pelsero restrictions it only applies to weeks thirteen through seventeen.

477
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: Maximum of two flexes per season and twenty.

478
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: Eight days noticed required. Yeah. Wow.

479
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: The expectation is this will rarely come into play, but

480
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 2: having the best games in primetime is a league priority,

481
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: and this provides some flexibility when needed. The vote went

482
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Speaker 2: twenty four to eight and it passed. Your gut reactions,

483
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have to dive into this one, Mark,

484
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: but your gut reaction to this flexing of the Amazon

485
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 2: Thursday night schedule.

486
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: All of the things they've done that I like, One

487
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 3: of them is you can't play two Thursday night road

488
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: games in a season. You can play two Thursday night games, right,

489
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: not too Thursday night road games. That's good because being

490
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: on the road on Thursday night is horrible. It's a

491
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: major disadvantage. I know teams sometimes win, the Texans have

492
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: done it. They won on a Thursday night on the road,

493
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 3: But I just think it's a big disadvantage. I don't

494
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: have the numbers in front of me. Twenty eight days

495
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: I like as well. So you might as well call

496
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: this the Denver rule. Right, If you have a team

497
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: that's projected to be good and they're horrible, and it's

498
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: late October, early November, and you see a flex or

499
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 3: you see a Thursday night game on the schedule for

500
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 3: early December, say now you can move it. You can

501
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 3: move that game and move a better one in all right,

502
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: So that does help. It does mess with travel plans,

503
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: and I think, oh yeah, if you're a Denver fan

504
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 3: and you want it to go see let's say Russell

505
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 3: Wilson in company last year, and maybe they were scheduled

506
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: to play week whatever, the second week of December on

507
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 3: the road on a Thursday night, and they wanted to

508
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 3: move that away you and you wanted to travel to

509
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: the game. You might not be that disappointed because the

510
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 3: team's terrible. All right, I'll redo my plans. But if

511
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: you have travel plans to go see a hot team

512
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: on the road that Sunday, second week of December and

513
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: they move it to Thursday, well that changes your world.

514
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: Now I gotta miss work, or more work than I

515
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: wanted to miss I got to redo my flights. Oh

516
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 3: I can't get flights. I can't get hotel rooms all

517
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 3: of a sudden. I think that stinks for people wanting

518
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: to travel to games, and I think the league should

519
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: encourage more travel whatever necessary, because it's hard to fill

520
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 3: some of these buildings, right yeah, And I think the

521
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: more they can encourage fans to travel, the better it

522
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: is for the gate obviously, but TV is the most

523
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 3: important thing.

524
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: So this is going to win.

525
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: And my reaction, that's a long drawn out reaction, but

526
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: that's what it is.

527
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the twenty eight days notice is is kind of interesting.

528
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: So let's let's say that you're gonna flex.

529
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: In week thirteen, right, yeah, you're gonna need to know

530
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: in week nine roughly, I mean roughly, you're gonna make

531
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: that announcement in week nine. Now, the people I mean

532
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: that in and of itself is like, ah, man, I

533
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: I mean we've seen teams before that in week nine,

534
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: you know, five, four, six, and three looking halfway decent,

535
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: and hey, let's go ahead and move this game.

536
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: This will give us a better game. And then they

537
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: lose three in a row.

538
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: They're on a downer and now they're coming in a

539
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: short week and they gotta fly somewhere. Oh but the

540
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: people I feel worse for. And look, the fans. The

541
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: fans will not win out in this one. But our guy,

542
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 2: Clay Hampton in the building is a maestro when it

543
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: comes to travel.

544
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: He sets everything up.

545
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 2: And I can't even imagine what this has, what this

546
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: is gonna be for them, for Clay and people of

547
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: his ilk throughout the league.

548
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 3: Mike got you better not move a game until you

549
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: know that you have hotel space in the city you're

550
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: going to exactly. I mean, you've got to make sure

551
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: that that's available. Otherwise they're screwed.

552
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: You're you're messing with competitive balance at that point. If

553
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: you if you end up, let's say you flex the game.

554
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: We were talking about green Bay, right, if you flex

555
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: the game to green Bay.

556
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: Let's say that.

557
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: Just say it's us. We're flying up to play green

558
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: Bay on Sunday. Things are looking good. They decide to

559
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: move the game. So Clay and company have got twenty

560
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: eight days, I mean to get everything moved from Hey,

561
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: we were gonna stay there on Sunday, actually Saturday night,

562
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: but now we're coming in Wednesday night. Now that might

563
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: be the saving grace in some places, because how often

564
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: do you have something going on on Wednesday night?

565
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: Maybe that is maybe.

566
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: That helps you, but business travel, But yeah, I mean,

567
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: what about trying to get a spot in Indy when

568
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: there's all there conferences all the time going on there.

569
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: You better make sure it's available, Johnny. It's hard enough

570
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: to book. And I know this because over the years,

571
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: the Texans and I imagine many other teams have had

572
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: trouble booking hotels in Indy, no matter what it is,

573
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: no matter what time of year, because Indy, for some reason,

574
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: is the Vegas of Indiana, I guess of the Midwest.

575
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: You have so many conventions and different events there, it's

576
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: difficult to get that hotel space even for a one

577
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: night or on a Saturday for a garden variety and

578
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: there's no such thing garden variety NFL road trip, Yeah.

579
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: No doubt.

580
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: Okay, let's move wat to another one. The Colts have

581
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: accepted the finding that the Washington commanders did not contact

582
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: former quarterback Andrew Luck and therefore did not violate the

583
00:29:54,600 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: NFL's anti tampering rules. League source told Steven Holder, who

584
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: I think is he with the athletic r history.

585
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: No, he's with ESPN now.

586
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: So the Colts didn't even get us. The commanders didn't

587
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: even get a slap on the wrist. You think Jim

588
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: Ersay is happy with that, your gut reaction.

589
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: He might not be happy with it, no matter what

590
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: he says. But I'm okay with this. Did you really

591
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: think and again, it wasn't actual tampering. I do I

592
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: have to get people's phones to make sure that nobody

593
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: actually called Andrew Luck? Do we have to take the

594
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: gates his phone and get rid of all the evidence there.

595
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: But I'm fine with it. I didn't consider it major tampering.

596
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: And if anybody was gonna have Luck, I didn't want

597
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: it to be the cults anyway. So I guess maybe

598
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: my Colt's hatred here is skewing my reaction.

599
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: Your thoughts.

600
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of wanted to see the commanders get,

601
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: you know, a little slap on the wrist.

602
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: But you know, you you inquire about things.

603
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen some we've seen some kind of

604
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: different ways of going about things. But yeah, Washington probably

605
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: should have lobbed to call it a Chris ballad and

606
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: just said, hey, it's out a curiosity. How would you

607
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: feel if we contacted Luck, they could have shut that down.

608
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a way to do.

609
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: Think we were actually talking about Kevin Warren, a former

610
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: Big Ten commissioner, and some of the things that he's done.

611
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: It now the Big Ten is feeling kind of the

612
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: ramification that the universities are feeling the ramifications of because

613
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: he just went and signed deals with NBC without considering.

614
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: Two or three very major major things.

615
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: And had he just asked, I mean, they would have

616
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: they would have been in that situation. I'll put it.

617
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: I'll put it that way. So you know, it's no

618
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: sweat off anybody's back. Everybody's okay, thumbs Up's all good,

619
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: and colts and commanders land. But you know, I kind

620
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: of hope the colts think this year and I hope

621
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: the commanders are a little bit better.

622
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: But that's a different story. Okay. Last one three.

623
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: Time Pro Bowl pass rusher gidebian Clowney said it would

624
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: be nice to return to the Texans after they selected

625
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: him first overall in twenty fourteen. When talking with the

626
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: Goat Mark Berman, he said, and I quote, it would

627
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: be nice. My family is here, friends here, the guys

628
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: I work out with can help me take care of

629
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: my body a lot better being right up under them.

630
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: Clowney said he feels he has a lot left in

631
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: the tank and that he will show up and show

632
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: out once he finds a place to play, although ye

633
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: had it that he has no timetable in place for

634
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: finding a deal in Houston anywhere else. Your gut reaction

635
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: to Clowney coming back as a Texan question to morrow?

636
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, question mark, lots of question marks there.

637
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: First of all, look, we'd all love to have him

638
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: on game day, right just to bolster your pass rush

639
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: having him on the roster. I'm not so sure how

640
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: that's going to work out overall. Yeah, I'll trust them

641
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: because they can vet the situation way better than we can, right. Yeah,

642
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: they know what they're dealing with here. They know people

643
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: who know, and I love JD.

644
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: We all do. Yep.

645
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: I just don't know if this equation of the Houston

646
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: Texans is a good situation for either party, right, for

647
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: a Clowney franchise marriage, maybe they need to be younger

648
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: and go that way. Now, they did go with Jacob Martin, right, so,

649
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: And it's funny if Clowney was to be on the team.

650
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: You'd have Jacob Martin and Clowney in the same team.

651
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: Hey, that's happened before. That's happened before.

652
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: You named the two players that were traded for one

653
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: another that ended up on the same Texans.

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Speaker 1: Team, Team Den and t J. Yates. Very good. I

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Speaker 1: knew you know that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew you'd know that both ended up coaching

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Speaker 3: for the teams.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine Clowney Jacob Martin, that's defensive ends assistant

660
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Speaker 2: coaches that you're kind of interesting, But yeah, I feel

661
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Speaker 2: like you in the sense that I think JD did

662
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Speaker 2: a lot more here in Houston than people want to

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Speaker 2: want to imagine from fourteen through eighteen. But he moved

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Speaker 2: on and this team has made a lot of acquisitions

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Speaker 2: at the defensive imposition.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, Jacob Martin.

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Speaker 2: Now, the one thing I will say for Clooney this

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Speaker 2: would be a four to three. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 2: hand down four to three defensive end. There's no doubt

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Speaker 2: about that. But I think, to me, this is one

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Speaker 2: of those situations where you can let it play out

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Speaker 2: at training camp. You say this a lot injuries will

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Speaker 2: injuries will solve some things, but they also will create openings,

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Speaker 2: and it might be a you know, like a Quentin

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Speaker 2: Demp situation back in twenty fifteen, where there were some

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Speaker 2: things going on in the secondary there's bang damn guys,

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Speaker 2: and they went called Quintin Demps. He showed up third

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Speaker 2: week of the preseason. By the time we got to Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: he was starting again. In at twenty sixteen, he had

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Speaker 2: what seven interceptions, six or seven interceptions and was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: So you never know what a boomerang can do for you.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't like you said. I love Cloonnie.

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Speaker 2: I always I was one of his biggest fans. I

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Speaker 2: love the guy, but I think this is a team

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Speaker 2: that it has probably got to get a little bit

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Speaker 2: younger before it gets uh, before it gets any more seasoning,

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Speaker 2: if you will, right right, Clowny's a guy to help

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Speaker 2: a team get over the hump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it appears to be right now at

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Speaker 3: the stage of his career.

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Speaker 1: But you never know. Maybe he doesn't have any takers.

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Speaker 3: He likes being in Houston, and then whila, you might

693
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Speaker 3: have a need or you decide, you know what, we

694
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: could be a lot stronger there. Let's get whatever we

695
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Speaker 3: can out of him, But the deal's got to be

696
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 3: right financially right, and I don't know what he's looking for.

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Speaker 3: You know, everyone's talking about the James Harden return for

698
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Speaker 3: the Rockets. That possibility, Well, that has a lot of

699
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Speaker 3: money tied to it as well.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see Johnny. But it's fun to talk about.

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Speaker 2: It certainly is. And Blake Cashman's fun to talk to.

702
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Speaker 2: Andrew Doughty did that. That's next and Texans All Access,

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Speaker 2: What's happened? Everybody walking back this Monday edition of Texans

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Speaker 2: All Access. Last segment, I'm your host, John Harrison, football analyst,

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Speaker 2: Sylin reporter looking forward to Tomorrowgan Nay, chance to see

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Speaker 2: this Texans team?

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Speaker 1: What it looks like right now?

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Speaker 2: It's rookies, it's vets, it doesn't I don't expect to

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Speaker 2: see everybody because it is voluntary. And that's something obviously

710
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: to keep in mind with OTA's mini camp mandatory OTAs voluntary,

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Speaker 2: stressing the word voluntary. So still to be able to

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Speaker 2: see these guys and kind of how it might look

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Speaker 2: and of course you don't have pads on and all

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, but just what does the offense

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Speaker 2: look like? What things they're focusing on. And of course,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's guys that are are new to this

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Speaker 2: whole thing. And I mean when I talk, I'm talking new.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to everybody. The Mico rookie head coach, Bobby

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Speaker 2: Slowic Rookie OC Rookie quarterbacks coach, and Drad Johnson rookie

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks CJ. Stroud, case Keenum and Davis Bills learning this

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Speaker 2: offense for the first time. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: newness at those key positions. So I take everything with

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Speaker 2: a grain of salt and how it looks and how

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Speaker 2: it works and all that, but it's gonna be good

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Speaker 2: to see guys getting out there run around making plays.

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Speaker 2: One of those guys that made some plays last and

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Speaker 2: hopefully will continue to do that is Blake cash Man

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Speaker 2: and Drew Dory had a chance to catch up with

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Speaker 2: Blake late last week.

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Speaker 1: Some fun stuff here, Drew and Blake. Let's go number

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Speaker 1: fifty three.

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Speaker 4: Blake Cashman goes by Blocka on Instagram. Blake, It's great

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Speaker 4: to see my friend. We're here at the Houston Texans

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Speaker 4: team Club graduation ceremony and there's kiddos out here that

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Speaker 4: are about to graduate having fun we can hear some

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Speaker 4: of that. What was it like being part of this because,

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Speaker 4: like we said, a bunch of her high schools represented

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Speaker 4: and this is kind of a chance to thank those

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Speaker 4: kids for giving back to the community, and you guys

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Speaker 4: are part of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really cool to be a part of it. Now,

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Speaker 5: going to my segment with Texans my second time here,

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Speaker 5: didn't want to miss it. You know, it's so cool

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Speaker 5: to see youth in this community, you know, with their

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Speaker 5: sense of belonging and doing work, doing good, serving other people.

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Speaker 5: And I mean, I don't think there's a better feeling

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Speaker 5: than making someone else's day better, putting a smile on

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Speaker 5: someone's face. So to see what they're doing at such

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Speaker 5: a young age, it's special. And hopefully these you know,

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Speaker 5: young kids continue to do that for the rest of

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Speaker 5: their lives because it's super impactful and that's what it's

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Speaker 5: all about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and speaking of impactful, you had a

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Speaker 4: really cool message that you said to what's kind of

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Speaker 4: the gist of what you said.

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Speaker 5: Well, I encourage them to continue with their community outreach

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00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 5: as they you know, take on their next journeys in life.

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Speaker 5: But for the kids graduating high school and you know,

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Speaker 5: going on to the next step, next adventure in life.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's a time where you you know, do

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Speaker 5: a lot of exploring and there's a lot of self

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Speaker 5: growth and it's the time where you can redefine yourself.

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Speaker 5: But I told them something I learned my sophomore junior college,

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Speaker 5: and that's you know, finding purpose, finding a why. I

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Speaker 5: think it's important because it keeps you grounded, it keeps

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Speaker 5: you motivated and focus, and you know, that's what life's

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Speaker 5: all about, its same focus on you know, important people

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Speaker 5: and important tasks at hand.

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Speaker 1: Amen to that.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about some tasks at hand. Football wise,

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Speaker 4: how are you different? How are you better as a

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Speaker 4: player than when we last talk back in mid January.

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Speaker 5: You know, every year you find new ways to critique

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Speaker 5: your game, critique your technique. Every year is different because

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00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 5: your body's changing, you're getting older. But you know, with

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Speaker 5: the sports performance staff and the new coaches we have

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00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 5: here in Houston, it's they've been able to keep me healthy,

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Speaker 5: do a great job with me. But it's been awesome

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Speaker 5: with the new staff because they're bringing a defense I'm

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Speaker 5: familiar with. I had this defense with Robert solom My

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Speaker 5: last year with the Jets and to be able to

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Speaker 5: take what I've already learned and to kind of put

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Speaker 5: my own little twist to it and being able to play,

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Speaker 5: you know, my game within the game and play within

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Speaker 5: my strengths is what's I think really going to help

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Speaker 5: me find success on the field and ultimately help the

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Speaker 5: team and hopefully win games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool that you bring him up because a

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Speaker 4: long time ago he was a young pup as an

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Speaker 4: assistant coach here with the Houston Texans. And while he

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Speaker 4: was a coach, Demiko Ryance your new head coach playing

792
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Speaker 4: what's it like being around Tomko Ryan, seeing his leadership

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Speaker 4: and knowing that he was a former linebacker like you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's great.

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Speaker 5: You know you can just see the energy around the building,

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Speaker 5: but just the excitement in the city. I think that's

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00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 5: really important when you know you're looking to have a

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Speaker 5: great year. You know, you want everyone in the building

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Speaker 5: behind your coach, behind your team, and you the city

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Speaker 5: behind you as well.

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Speaker 1: But for a guy that's been.

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Speaker 5: In our shoes, understands how the game's played, understands what

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00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 5: you know needs to be fixed. What can help guys?

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Speaker 5: You know, as the season progresses in terms of making

805
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 5: practice adjustments, game adjustments, taking your body. I think it's

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Speaker 5: really gonna benefit us. And you know, he's a guy

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Speaker 5: that's had a good track record of success and there's

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Speaker 5: no question that's going to carry over to him being

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Speaker 5: a head coach. So thrilled and I can't wait to

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Speaker 5: see how well we do and what we showcase this

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Speaker 5: year OTAs.

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Speaker 1: But a week away, what's the goal?

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Speaker 5: The goal honestly is too. Like I said, it's a

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Speaker 5: familiar defense for me, but going from a different coach

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Speaker 5: to have a different system to a new one, you

816
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 5: have to critique your brain and make those adjustments to

817
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 5: fine tune your techniques and play within their schemes. So,

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Speaker 5: you know, just really getting the basics down because you

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Speaker 5: want to be able to feel good and get in

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Speaker 5: a groove ending OTAs, so you can just pick up

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Speaker 5: right where you start off in fall camp. But it's

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Speaker 5: gonna be ex and get back on the grass. It

823
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Speaker 5: feels like it's it's been a while.

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Speaker 4: Always enjoyed talking to Blake. Best of luck next week,

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00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 4: best of luck the rest of the way.

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Speaker 5: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You're great stuff there from Blake Cashman alongside Drew Doherty.

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Speaker 2: So let's play word association with us Blake Cashman, sack

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Speaker 2: of Patrick Mahomes and overtime against the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: That's how I remember the most, and hopefully there are

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Speaker 2: more plays like that to be made in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three for number fifty three, Blake Cashman. A big thanks

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Speaker 2: to Blake and to Drew for joining the show, obviously

834
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Speaker 2: to Mark vandermir Again, OTA's tomorrow, So we'll be right

835
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Speaker 2: here live six to seven talking about things that we

836
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Speaker 2: saw in OTA's what everybody's panicking about.

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Speaker 1: We'll calm everybody down and remind.

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Speaker 2: Everybody it's just OTAs, so it's okay. And again the

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Speaker 2: word voluntary will come up probably a few times. So

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about all that next tomorrow, not next week, Tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: the next day, our next day, what'll be Tuesday. But

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Speaker 2: I thank you for joining me on this Monday, this

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Speaker 2: show of Texas All Access. We'll see tomorrow as always,

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Speaker 2: Go Texans,