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Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're

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Speaker 1: not even in the stradedere of normalcy. It's it's Friday.

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Speaker 1: We made it. We made it. And here with me

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Speaker 1: And it's been a while since we had you in here. Maddy.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been filling in for us here and there.

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Speaker 1: I know Steve takes innumerable a little bit more this week,

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Speaker 1: the numerable amount offcation. Um, Steve will be back Monday

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Speaker 1: for those of you wondering, and good to have you

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Speaker 1: in here, man. And it's been a while since we

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Speaker 1: And some stuff's gone down, some stuff's gone since then.

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Speaker 1: Fun stuff, yes, fun stuff. For those that don't know,

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Speaker 1: Maddie is tying the knot later this summer. Yeah, for

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Speaker 1: a few weeks away. That's right, less than a month

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Speaker 1: and the Bachelor bachelorette party happened. It happened. Well, I'm alive,

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Speaker 1: guys back in your home of Chicago, of all places,

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Speaker 1: which you know, why why would you do it anywhere else?

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Speaker 1: And I love that you wrapped this around a Cubs

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Speaker 1: I know it doesn't look like it used to in

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Speaker 1: I mean, and also outside of the stadium you still

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Speaker 1: That's where most people want to sit rights. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: My dad set me up for that when I was young,

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Speaker 1: So thank you Dad for telling me about the importance

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Speaker 1: seats around the stadium there, Ryan, they're fine, but if

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Speaker 1: Or another amazing place to sit is on the rooftops

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Speaker 1: But we were in the bleachers. And one of the

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Speaker 1: So everybody in your section, you're asking for everybody in

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Speaker 1: They were all troopers. And you know what, we were

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Speaker 1: You couldn't do it within after ushers are going to

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Speaker 1: it was pretty impressive. We beat a freebeat left field. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So would you call this the longest one you and

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you're usually a donor? Yeah, and that okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: That's an expensive cup snake. Yeah. And those are all

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Speaker 1: They just have a cup. Yeah, they have a Cub's

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Speaker 1: that's and more and more stuff keeps coming out. And

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Speaker 1: we'll see if the Browns have a quarterback this season,

428
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Speaker 1: right they may be going shopping. They got Jacoby Brissette

429
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Speaker 1: as the backup right now, you can't tell me you

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Speaker 1: want to start Jacoby Brissette. I mean Bills fans got

431
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Speaker 1: to look at him in Week two after a jup

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Speaker 1: and not two out of the game last year for

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. I mean, he's a backup, that's what he is.

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Speaker 1: He's not a viable starting option. And I mean the

435
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Speaker 1: Colts tried that when Andrew Luck up and retired right

436
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Speaker 1: away and Jacoby Brissette had to step in. That happened

437
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Speaker 1: late in the game though they didn't have a chance

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Speaker 1: to react there. This DeShawn Watson thing comes down like

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Speaker 1: with a major suspension, because we were talking about it

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Speaker 1: on the show yesterday, Mattie, I don't know how the

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Speaker 1: league doesn't suspend him for like a whole year indefinitely. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they don't do that because, like

443
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Speaker 1: think about this, Calvin Ridley, the Atlanta Falcons receiver illegally

444
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: bets I can't remember if it was on a football again,

445
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: he bets on sports, which is illegal as an NFL

446
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: employee of any kind. He bets on sports. He admits it.

447
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I did it. It was a mistake.

448
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: That's on me. I admit it, didn't deny it nothing

449
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: like I did it, like admitted it and get suspended

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Speaker 1: for at least this year. It could be even next year,

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Speaker 1: they said. When the thing came out, it said, the

452
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Speaker 1: league is suspending Calvin really for at least the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two seasons, so it could be even longer than that.

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Speaker 1: So here's a guy that gambled and admitted to it

455
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Speaker 1: and got a year. What is DeShawn Watson gonna get? Like?

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you You can't underpunish that guy. No,

457
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: you gotta like it's way too fishy over there, dropped

458
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: you gotta drop the hammer there. And then the New

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Speaker 1: York Times report that came out this week sixty six

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Speaker 1: women in seventeen months. I mean, uh, don't tell me

461
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Speaker 1: the guy didn't have an agenda. I don't know. It's

462
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Speaker 1: going to be very interesting to see how the league

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Speaker 1: handles this, because I think there's just going to be

464
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Speaker 1: more and more and more layers to this. That's just

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Speaker 1: going to get more and more and more unseemly, Yeah, seemly.

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Speaker 1: And what are the Browns doing? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? I don't know, I really don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well what they well, I know what they did. They

469
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Speaker 1: completely compromise their principles to get a franchise quarterback. They're

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Speaker 1: willing to do it at any cost. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to play for a team like that. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think there's fans that have jumped hip too. I

473
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Speaker 1: see our Bills Mafia members on social media all the time.

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Speaker 1: Every time there's a new development in this Deshaun Watson disaster.

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Speaker 1: They're reaching out the Browns fans come on down. Plenty

476
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Speaker 1: of room on the Bills Mafia train. You know, the

477
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: Bandwagon were accepting invitations and that all are welcomes. So yeah,

478
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Speaker 1: and the Bills play the Browns this year. I your

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Speaker 1: guest is as good as mine as to how what

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Speaker 1: that's going to look like. Jeez played Jacobe Broussett again.

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Speaker 1: Theres a good chance they might. Yeah. Other free agent news,

482
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Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul, who I believe turns thirty four turns

483
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Speaker 1: thirty four before the end of the calendar year, was

484
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Speaker 1: visiting the Ravens on Thursday. No news on any kind

485
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Speaker 1: of contract offer there. But this is a typical kind

486
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Speaker 1: of thing that the Ravens do. They love scooping up

487
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Speaker 1: veterans late in the game when it doesn't count against

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Speaker 1: their compensatory pick formula. Because once you get past the

489
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Speaker 1: month of May doesn't count against you. And it doesn't

490
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Speaker 1: look like they're going to have David Dajabo anytime soon

491
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Speaker 1: coming off the achilles injury that he suffered on his

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Speaker 1: pro day. And they also have Tias Bowser, who's another

493
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Speaker 1: outside linebacker coming off an achilles. So you can make

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Speaker 1: an argument for adding a veteran pass rusher for the

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Speaker 1: Ravens due to the uncertainty with some injuries at the position.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see where that goes. And then the Ravens

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Speaker 1: defense is going to be you add if you decide

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Speaker 1: to add Jason Pierce, we're just going to is going

499
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: to be so dang good a way on the other side,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, who had a nice rookie season last year too,

501
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Speaker 1: by the way, So we'll see where that goes. Of course,

502
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Speaker 1: they have bigger fish to fry with the whole Lamar

503
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Speaker 1: Jackson thing. We'll see if they can get a contract

504
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: extension done with him. Harbaugh said he does expect Lamar

505
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Speaker 1: Jackson to be a mandatory mining camp next week and

506
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Speaker 1: then the final one here. Wide receiver Michael Thomas for

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Speaker 1: the Saints Maddie doubt full to participate in next week's

508
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Speaker 1: mini camp. They say his rehab is heading in the

509
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: right direction. They still haven't seen him on a football field.

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Speaker 1: No word on what his health is going to look

511
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Speaker 1: like for training camp. I looked it up because I

512
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: was like, when did this guy let he hasn't played

513
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty. Yeah, like it was a bad foot injury,

514
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: and then he exacerbated it when he tried to come

515
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: back too early. I guess late last year. He's trying

516
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Speaker 1: to come back for their playoff run. Messed it up,

517
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Speaker 1: And now here we are the following June. It's still undetermined,

518
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Speaker 1: like when he's going to be right again. And we're

519
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: talking about we're not talking about like just your run

520
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: of the millwide receiver. I mean, this guy was like

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00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: one of the best receivers thousand receiving yards in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: major player, And I mean we get to the start

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Speaker 1: of the regular season, you're closing in on two years

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Speaker 1: since he's played in a game. Like it's just he

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Speaker 1: played in just seven games in twenty twenty. It just

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Speaker 1: really speaks to how fleeting an NFL career can be

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Speaker 1: with the wrong kind of injury. You know, when you say, oh,

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Speaker 1: what's this guy taking so long for why aren't they

529
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Speaker 1: getting him back? And this is why the Bills athletic

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Speaker 1: training staff and the medical staff airs on the side

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Speaker 1: of caution. They'd rather not have the guy for an

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Speaker 1: extra couple of weeks, knowing when they do get him back,

533
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 1: he's good to go, no worries, no setbacks, rather than

534
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: bring him back two weeks early as a setback, and

535
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: now you just lengthened the timetable again. Perfect example. Trey

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00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: White is not going to get pushed to start. I

537
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: actually was walking down the hall today when Trey was

538
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: doing his rehab with the athletic training staff. I didn't

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00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: know what was going on. I was coming down the

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Speaker 1: hall and I couldn't see down the rehab room where

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Speaker 1: I was walking, but I heard this, like there's a

542
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: lot of grunting, and I'm like, oh, somebody's working hard.

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Speaker 1: And I walked by. You know, I never broke stride.

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Speaker 1: I just kept on walking, but I peeked in as

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Speaker 1: I was walking by, and Trey was working like working.

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Speaker 1: He was doing like one leg leg presses on the

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Speaker 1: rehabilitated knee and he's I gotta tell you, he's pushing

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Speaker 1: a lot of weight. For a guy, you know, so

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Speaker 1: soon off a rehab, so rest assured that Trey is grinding, Yeah,

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00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: grinding big time. I'm sure it'll be a case of

551
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Speaker 1: Trey is going to be like, I'm whenever it is,

552
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready. I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: Put me out there, Put me out there, put me,

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Speaker 1: put me out there. And the training staff and the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff is gonna be like, let's take a breath. Sure,

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Speaker 1: are you completely okay? Are we healed here? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: don't even think. I don't even think half the time

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Speaker 1: they're gonna listen to him because a lot of times,

559
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: because these guys are such competitors, you almost have to

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00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: protect the player from themselves because you know, they want

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00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: to be out there yesterday. And that's where the athletic

562
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: trainer and their expertise really comes into play because they

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00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: know how much time it should take. They're documenting all

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Speaker 1: the progress the player is making, and they're the ones

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Speaker 1: that I you know, they got to protect the player

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Speaker 1: from himself so he doesn't do something to set himself back.

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00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: And so you know, Nate Breast getting his crew do

568
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: a great job here and we expect nothing different with

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Speaker 1: Trey White. As we are closing in on training camp already.

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Speaker 1: We didn't mention it yet, but you know what Friday means.

571
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: The OBL Friday fan mail bag is open for you

572
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: to submit your questions about the bills, the NFL, anything

573
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: under the NFL umbrella. Fire it off at us, Maddie

574
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: and I will answer them. We will get to that

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Speaker 1: very mail bag when we return. Have to take a

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Speaker 1: break now, but be back with your mail bag questions.

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00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: Or you could give us a call eight oh three

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Speaker 1: five fifty if you had a bills question, NFL question,

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00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: fired off at us. Open lines for you there your

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Speaker 1: phone calls and mail bag questions. Next you're on one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live Presentaboy, CALLI to help. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Friday fan mailbag is open. If you want to ask

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Speaker 1: a question on the phone lines, you can do that

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Speaker 1: as well. Open line for you at seven one six

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Speaker 1: eight h three oh five fifty. Also at one eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty toll free. If you're

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Speaker 1: calling from outside the what is that the seven one

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Speaker 1: area code? I guess I was going to say the

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Speaker 1: eight counties in western New York, but that's not right.

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Speaker 1: There's some five eight fives in that group. First up

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Speaker 1: on the Friday fan mail Bag today, Elizabeth Who says,

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Speaker 1: if the Commission decides to fully punish Watson and he

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00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: doesn't play, who are they going to rely on or

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00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: the Browns going to eat their socks and issue some

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Speaker 1: kind of statement slash apology to fans for giving up

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00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: so much to take Watson? Or are they going to

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00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: act like nothing happened? Good questions. I'll take the first

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Speaker 1: part of this, Mannie. They'll rely on Jacoby Brissette at

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Speaker 1: least for now. I don't see them turning to Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: And quite frankly, I think Baker Mayfield says, you go

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Speaker 1: jump in a lake, go jump in lake Erie. I'm

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00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: not coming back, even though there might be a weird

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00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 1: and twisted way that if he plays well, he might

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00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: be able to get traded then, but I don't see

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Speaker 1: him going back in any way, shape or form. They

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00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: made their bed, they have to lie in it now.

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00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: So now, why don't you address how you anticipate the

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Speaker 1: Browns handling it. If he gets suspended for a year

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Speaker 1: and some disgusting stuff proves to be accurate against it,

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Speaker 1: I would hope that an apology is issued, but I

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Speaker 1: think that's about the bare minimum that that organization could

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Speaker 1: do what I expect them to do. Anything more, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe not. I don't think they would go

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Speaker 1: out of their way to apologize or do anything that

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Speaker 1: shows some sort of ownership on selected a player like

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Speaker 1: this who there's a lot of evidence out there, so

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Speaker 1: I mean they be and this is all evidence that

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Speaker 1: was out there. They even signed him to a guaranteed

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty million dollars contract, so I wonder

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Speaker 1: here's the one. The only thing I wonder about this is, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's a fully guaranteed two hundred and thirty million dollar contract.

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Speaker 1: Does part of it or some of it go null

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Speaker 1: and void if he has found guilty of any civil

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Speaker 1: infractions through the civil suits? Like, if he's found responsible

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Speaker 1: in any of the civil suits, is there some kind

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Speaker 1: of clause ye say, in his contract where the Browns

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Speaker 1: are covered because there's going to be punishment. There might

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Speaker 1: be punishment anyway, but none of those cases are going

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Speaker 1: to get hurt until twenty twenty three, after the season's over.

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Speaker 1: I wonder where it goes from there, and if Cleveland

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Speaker 1: can get out from under some of the contract, if

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Speaker 1: he's found financially, you know, fiscally responsible for you know

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Speaker 1: what the civil suits are accusing him of or charging

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Speaker 1: him or you know, assessing punitive damages to him for.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I I'm not a very confident that the Browns,

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Speaker 1: besides a statement, would do anything, because very quickly a

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Speaker 1: sticky situation has become full blown radioactive. And if it

638
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: completely explodes in their face, I can't see them coming

639
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: out and being like, we're sorry, Like even what they

640
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: were doing, they knew exactly what the risks were. And

641
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: if if they look, they already look bad now, but

642
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: if it completely implodes and they look even worse than

643
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: they already do, I mean, I don't know how you

644
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: come back from that. All those guys are gone, don't

645
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: you think, Kevin Stefanski, Andrew Berry, the GM, how do

646
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: you come back from that? You're if this goes the

647
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: wrong way legally, NFL, suspension wise, the whole nine yards.

648
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: How can the Browns organization realistically still employ Kevin Stefansky

649
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: and Andrew Berry? How can you think the fan base

650
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: has any sense of confidence in those two guys to

651
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: run that team after making that decision, and how could

652
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: another team say I want to hire this person in

653
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: the same role they were just in. Yeah, I mean

654
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: Stefanski could get like a coordinator job somewhere. Probably we

655
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: submember with Greg Williams and the whole bounty gate thing

656
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: with the Saints when he was paying guys money to

657
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: take quarterbacks out of football games. He eventually resurfaced as

658
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: a coordinator and even was an interim coach of the

659
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: Jets after Adam Gase got fired. So guys can always

660
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: find work, but yes, probably not as a head coach.

661
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: This is it is potentially career altering for the people

662
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: that literally stuck their neck out to sign to Shaun Watson.

663
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the ripple effect of this that we're

664
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: not even talking about. Let's go to the phones at

665
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty one, eight eight five fifty

666
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: two five fifty leading us off today, Mike and Amherst,

667
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? Mike, you're on one

668
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: bills live, Mike? Are you there all right? I'm gonna

669
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: put Mike back on Mink. He might he might not

670
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: be ready. We move along and we go to Barbe

671
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: in Rochester. What do you got for us? Barb, you're

672
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: on one bills live Hi. I have two questions. You

673
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: can choose one or the other, or maybe even both.

674
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: My first is, as far as I know, Cole Beasley

675
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: hasn't signed on with any team, what possible landing spots

676
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: do you see for him? My other question was on

677
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: Jordan Player. We all know he didn't attend voluntary OTAs.

678
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: What you think is the most likely scenario and what

679
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: is our depth at that position? And I'm going to

680
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: hang up and listen to you guys. All right, Thanks

681
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: for the call, Barb, appreciate it. Have a good weekend.

682
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: What do we think about Beasley slot receiver still out there?

683
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: I think you'll find work at some point in time.

684
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: It could be a case of teams go through training camp,

685
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: they see what they have, any inner injuries pop up,

686
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: or any injuries pop up in the beginning of a season.

687
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: I think that's an easy shoe in or an easy

688
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: opportunity for Cole Beasley to find a team. Yeah, and

689
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: you know it's strictly a slot guy that you're looking for.

690
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think if there is a major injury

691
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: for some team, I could see him latching on with

692
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: a team like that. If there is a team that

693
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: has a relatively young receiving corps upon which they are

694
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: depending heavily, I could see that. You know, a team

695
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 1: for me that kind of comes to mind a little

696
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: bit is a team that might be a little lacking

697
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: in receiver depth, and for me, that's the Tennessee Titans.

698
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: You have Robert Woods, Treylon Burkes has run into some

699
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: issues with his asthma, can't even get through some practices

700
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: right now. They no longer have the veteran slot receiver

701
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: Adam Humphreys, He's long gone. I know they have some

702
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: young guys in the pipeline there that they like, and

703
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: they did draft Kyle Phillips out of UCLA, who is

704
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: a slot guy, but he's a rookie. So if you've

705
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: believed the windows still open for you in what might

706
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: be Derrick Henry's last giant productive season, you could do

707
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: a lot worse than Cole Beasley. I could see Tennessee

708
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: as a possible landing spot for him if they feel,

709
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: you know, the price is right, and it should be,

710
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: because he's just sitting out there and you really have

711
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: no competitors for his services right now. What do we

712
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: think about Jordan Porterneck this week. I mean what we've

713
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: heard from Brandon and Sean and Leslie have have been

714
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, there's no indication that we think he's not

715
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: going to show up for mandatory mini camp. Now we'll

716
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: see what happens on Tuesday when practices begin for fre know,

717
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: those couple of practices that they're going to have. I

718
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: the positives here, what I look at as as positive

719
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: things that we've heard is that he's stayed in touch

720
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: with the team, He's been around here and has been

721
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: helping in the community in different ways. So it's not

722
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: like he hasn't been in Buffalo at all. So I

723
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: found those things as good things to hear when something

724
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: like this is going on, when a player is wanting

725
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: a new contract, when a players wanting more money. Um,

726
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: the fact that he's been in contact and stayed in

727
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 1: touch with the team and some of the coaches. Leslie said,

728
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, I've talked to him recently. We've we've had conversations.

729
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: We'll see. I hope he's here. I don't. I don't

730
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen in terms of backups. Another

731
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: positive I see in all of this with Micah also

732
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: not being around as much because you know it's family

733
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: is important to him, and he's been with his family

734
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: during this time during OTAs. Is these younger guys have

735
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: had a great opportunity the last couple of weeks to

736
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: really get some valuable reps in. And not saying that

737
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: Jordan and Mica don't need them, it would certainly be

738
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: great if they were around for OTAs, but I love

739
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: that some of the younger guys have had the opportunity

740
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: to kind of step up to Kuan Johnson, that's your

741
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: next man up. In terms of people who got drafted

742
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: after Jordan Poyer got brought on and Micah Hyde got

743
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: brought onto the team, I mean, you've got Damar Hamlin

744
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: in there as well. You have some corners who might

745
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: be able to shift around a little bit. But behind

746
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: Mica and Jordan, you've got some young guy. Yeah, young

747
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: guys unproven to a certain extent, but that's because they

748
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to get on the field because

749
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: Jordan and Mikey really don't miss a lot of time.

750
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: I think the best way to put it is, I

751
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: think the coaching staff is hopeful that Jordan's here next week.

752
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: There's no guarantee obviously, but I think they're hopeful. I

753
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: certainly don't think that any of the relationships player to player,

754
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: player to coach have been strained by this, So there's

755
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: really no acrimony here. I just think it's a guy

756
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: that feels he's deserving of more money, especially after being

757
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: named First team All Pro. The problem is he's on

758
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: the wrong side of thirty and investing heavily in players

759
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of thirty is not always the

760
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: wisest business practice as far as NFL cat management goes,

761
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: so it could get a little sticky. I think ultimately

762
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: football and this team and where it's going is too

763
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: important to Jordan Poyer to stay away indefinitely. But we'll

764
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: know if he feels he needs to make a statement

765
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: by next week, and we'll just have to see where

766
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: it goes. One other guy in the pipeline is Josh

767
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: Thomas Yep, the undrafted kid out of app State who

768
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: they were had on their practice squad each of the

769
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: last two years. Really good athletic specimen. He's kind of

770
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: in that mix too, but I would put I would

771
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: put you Kwan Johnson and Damar Hamlin ahead of him

772
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: in the pecking order. At this point, we have to

773
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: take a break here. When we come back, more of

774
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: your comments on the tweet sheet and more of your

775
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: phone calls here on One Bill's Live presented by Klada

776
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 1: helped It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, more mailback coming

777
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: your way here. As next up is steph who says,

778
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: any chance we get a guest appearance by Donald Jones

779
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: this summer, Perhaps a few fits stories he fits, Eric

780
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: Wood and Marshawn Lynch reliving some misfit stories could be

781
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: great content during the offseason. Not a bad idea, Steph

782
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Um convincing Donald to come on. Yeah, I mean we

783
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: can reach out. We'll see what kind of fit stories

784
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: he has. He did respond, we did see what are

785
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: you say? So then One Bills Live cute him in

786
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: and said what do you think? Yeah? And he replied

787
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: and said, I'm out of the country right now, but

788
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: next week sounds good. So you guys have a guest

789
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: already for next week, DJ on I'm I'm down with that,

790
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: Um And for those that don't know, DJ used to

791
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: co host this show and with John Murphy, so be

792
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: good to catch up with Donald again. That was a

793
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: that was a fun team even though unfortunately didn't win

794
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: a whole lot. But chance the Changaey Bills. Yeah, I

795
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: actually looked this up the other day because I was like,

796
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: I know they've never made the playoffs, but how much

797
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: winning did they actually do? Chan Gailey in his three

798
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: years as head coach of the Bills sixteen and thirty two,

799
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: but I gotta tell you for it, they were the

800
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: most fun sixteen we had fun. I think part of

801
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: the reason why, though, Maddie, was because Dick Giron had

802
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: coached this team for four years. He was painfully conservative.

803
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: And I know that's a familiar name for you because

804
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: he coached the Bears. He actually was had a very

805
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: successful season with the Bears. He was Coach of the Year.

806
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: Up there. He comes here and just painfully conservative with

807
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: his approach. It'd be sixteen, it'd be sixteen to three,

808
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: the Bills would be losing. It's late third quarter, it's

809
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: a fourth and four on the opponent's forty five yard line,

810
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: and he's punting and it's just like ah, and I

811
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: think fans had grown tired of that. And then Chan

812
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: comes in with a bunch of guys who were signed

813
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: to this roster to be largely backups and they ascended

814
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: into starting roles and nothing to lose, and they would

815
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: let it fly. Chan would be aggressive with his play

816
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: calling and it's like, hey, this they're actually trying to

817
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: be competitive here. You know, this is good. And once

818
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: in a while they would win, like an unexpected game,

819
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: like the Week three game against the Patriots in twenty eleven.

820
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: They at least were and they were blue collar guys.

821
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: This is a blue collar town. I think they just

822
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: identified with that team. And it was the first group

823
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: of players who really tried to interact with the fan

824
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: base on social media. And so there was this bond

825
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: that was created there and you always knew what you

826
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: were going to get out of those guys every single week.

827
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was it was a fun team for

828
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: those reasons. So yeah, and Donald was part of that,

829
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: you know. And he was one of those underdog guys,

830
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie at a Youngstown state, went to like Lackawanna

831
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: Junior College. I mean, he was the biggest of long

832
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: shots and they were like four other guys just like

833
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: him on the roster. So yeah, that's why they called

834
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: themselves misfits, the goon squad, the whole thing. It was

835
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: so cool. It was a fun time and they're still

836
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: talked about, Like, I come here for a job with

837
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: the Bills three years ago, going in my fourth season,

838
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: and that group of guys, they're talked about, probably a

839
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: lot more than people would expect. Yeah, and with the

840
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: Fits retirement now that's kind of all churned up again

841
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: because they're good, good people too. Yeah. So it was

842
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: definitely a fun group to cover, fun for the fans

843
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: to watch. So cool. Last one here for this hour

844
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: from Anthony. As we have seen Knox continue to develop

845
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: into an above average tight end, do you think opposing

846
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: defenses will devote more resources to covering him and could

847
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: that open the door for other receivers like Davis or Crowder.

848
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: I do think that's possible. I really expect and hopefully

849
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: this is the case many because if it is, it

850
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: means the offense is doing good things. You're expecting Stefan

851
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: Diggs to get a lot of attention in the red zone. Yeah,

852
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: maybe Dawson Knox gets the attention because he's a giant target.

853
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: He had nine touchdowns last year, and if he's productive

854
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: early in the season much like he was last year,

855
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: what inevitably happens is they pay attention to that guy,

856
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: and then more opportunities for Gabe Davis and Jamison Crowder,

857
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: and then you hope they're so productive that it vacillates

858
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: back the other way and then Dawson's opportunities open up again.

859
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: That's when you know the offense is humming. Yeah, you

860
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: would definitely think that Dawson is going to draw a

861
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: little bit more attention. It's also going to be interesting

862
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: with Oj on the team. Oj Howard, I mean, how

863
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: is that going to work. What type of attention might

864
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: he get as the season goes on. If Dawson is

865
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: getting some attention from defenses and that opens something up

866
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: for another tight end to have some success. You can't

867
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: target just one guy. There's too many guys on this

868
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: team to pay attention to that somebody is bound to

869
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: be open. Yeah. So it's interesting because on yesterday's show,

870
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: I was doing it. Mike Clay from ESPN. He puts

871
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: out team projections for every team in the league, and

872
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: he like crunches numbers, stat history, all of that stuff,

873
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: and he had Dawson Knox's projected line about the same

874
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: number of receiving yards high five hundreds, mid forties on catches,

875
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: like he had forty nine receptions last year, he had

876
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: him for forty six this year, and he had his

877
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: touchdowns down from nine to six. Because I would say,

878
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: even in this day and age in the league, unless

879
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: you're a Travis Kelsey, it's hard to go nine touchdowns

880
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns every single year, especially in an offense with

881
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: as many weapons as this Bill's offense has. So we'll

882
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: have to see. But nine touchdowns is gonna be hard

883
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: to match again. But maybe it happens. Who knows, well.

884
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: I mean, people will be all ecstatic if he does

885
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: want it to happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if

886
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: you know, they spread the wealth a little bit more

887
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: in the offense this year, which could very well mean that,

888
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, Knox only has maybe six or seven touchdowns

889
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: instead of nine or ten. But we'll see. It's gonna

890
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: be fun no matter which way you slice it. We

891
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: have to take a break here. When we come back.

892
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: Senior NFL writer from USA Today, Doug Ferrar joins us.

893
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about some of the latest news

894
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: coming out this offseason, some of his expectations for the Bills,

895
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: both individually and team wise, all that coming up next

896
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: with Doug Ferrar here on One Bill's Live, presented by

897
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: Collid to help It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. At a Steve

898
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: Tasker who has been all all over the field, kind

899
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: of unique. He was kind of a dual role player

900
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: for you, Stave of a lily, Steve a blimp. We're

901
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: not even in the strated fere of normalcy, all right,

902
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: A number two on a Friday. Chris brown Manny clab

903
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: with you and glad to be joined now by NFL

904
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: writer and editor for USA Today, Doug Ferrar, joining us

905
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: from the friendly confines of Seattle. Doug, thanks for being

906
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: with us. Hope you're well. And um, I know we

907
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: were talking before we came on the area here about

908
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: that scintillating quarterback competition in Seattle between Geno Smith and

909
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: Drew Locke. And I don't know, I just I'm I'm

910
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: fighting myself on this. I just I don't know why.

911
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: I just feel like their GM and their head coach

912
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: are too competitive to just accept this as their quarterback lot.

913
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: Can you see any way, if if somehow the other

914
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: shoe drops and Baker Mayfield gets clipped that they kick

915
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: the tires there. It could be Baker Mayfield, that could

916
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: be Gardner Minshee. First of all, good Friday afternoon, thank

917
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: you for having me on. It could be Mayfield, it

918
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: could be Minshew. Well, you know, we'll see. I know

919
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: they love Drew Lock in his draft class, both Pete

920
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: Carroll and John Schneider. If they love the physical tools,

921
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: which are considerable, it's just the sort of acumen and

922
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: reading defenses and all that. So there is one thought

923
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: that they believe they can get Drew Lock and they're

924
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: building with their offensive coordinators Shane Waltern, and they can

925
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: sort of figure it out. Um Gino Smith is kind

926
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: of a playhole placeholder, you know, b backup, and they

927
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: kind of know what he is. The other thought is

928
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: this is a waste here for Seattle. They're gonna, you know,

929
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: put everything else together and then they'll get their quarterback

930
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: in next year's draft, which is you know, just as

931
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: plausible as anything else or in free agency. The idea

932
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: that Carol and Schneider are too competitive to haven't be

933
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: a waste here. You know, in the past they have

934
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: made some pretty interesting and kind of desperate moves with

935
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, Jamal Adams and Percy Harvard and Joe Braham,

936
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: you know all that stuff. So it's if they're if

937
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: they're coming into October and the trade deadline is going

938
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: on and they're just they're in real trouble, they might

939
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: hold to the idea that, yes, it's a rebuild and

940
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: we'll just you know, suffer through it. Just as likely,

941
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: given that organization's history, they will go out and go

942
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: nuts and bring guy in. I think Mayfield actually would

943
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: be a great fit in this office. But you know,

944
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: given what's going on in Cleveland, who knows how that

945
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: will work out. So let's just say they're eyeing Drew Locke.

946
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: What does Drew Locke need to show in order to

947
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: win that job? And I asked this thinking back to

948
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: Drew Locke's first couple of seasons in the NFL, when

949
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: he would get compared to Josh Allen a lot because

950
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen's rejectory, at least after his first couple

951
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: of years really started to show his true colors. Can

952
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 1: Drew still do that or is he beyond that time

953
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Well, I mean, anytime you take the

954
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: outlier as the norm, it's a bad idea. Josh Allen

955
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: from his daze at Wyoming through his progression as an

956
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, especially with the help of Brian dabl who

957
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: you know, there's a reason Brian's now the Giants head

958
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: coach and Josh Allen is it. That development was impressive

959
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: and kind of thermonuclear, especially lately, and not all that usual.

960
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: And the comparisons with Drew Locke. I mean, Drew Locke

961
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: is a big guy, he's a plus athlete. He has

962
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: an incredible arm. But as you both know, the difference

963
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: between having a big arm and being a great deep

964
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: passer huge divide. That's something that Josh had to deal

965
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: with and had to develop and now he's got it.

966
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: But for the most part, those guys who come in

967
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: and after two or three years, they still can't read

968
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: a defense, They still can't hit their receiver and stride,

969
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: and they can't throw with anticipation, and these are all

970
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: things Drew has struggled with to this point in his

971
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: NFL career. If you're into two or three years and

972
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: you're still having those issues, that's a tough one to

973
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: say that he's the next Josh Allen. I mean, it's like, oh, well,

974
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: this guy is the next Jimmie Hendricks. I mean, you well,

975
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: how many Jimmie Hendricks do you get? How many Josh

976
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: Allens do you get? Where they're so you know, they're

977
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: so raw from their college days and they actually turn

978
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: into top five quarterbacks. It doesn't happen a lot, especially

979
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks that those sort of athletic gifts they and

980
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: Josh has been you know, developed beyond this, but Drew

981
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: Locke still has it. You think you can make every throw.

982
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: It's what I call Jay Cutler writers. You think you

983
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: can make every throw. You can make these impossible plays.

984
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: The NFL is an about impossible plays. It's about sustaining drives,

985
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 1: sustaining downs, you know, winning games with constant or near

986
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: constant momentum as opposed to, oh my gosh, you did

987
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: this one thing and then for the rest of the

988
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: game it was hopeless. I mean even Patrick Mahomes has

989
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: struggled with that and learn to sort of balance. Yes,

990
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: I can make this incredible throw no one else can make,

991
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: but it's also third and three. I need to, you know,

992
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: get a five yard outbowing and keep it going, you know,

993
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: keep the drive, bulling win the game. So that's that's

994
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: the challenge for Seattle. Now, Drew lock is incredibly physically

995
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: talented excuse me the on field actum and just add

996
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: caught up yet, And that's not to malign him. It's

997
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: very common for young, really athletically gifted quarterbacks. Yeah, I know,

998
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: you recently broke down the best NFL quarterbacks for every

999
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: type of throw you awarded out of the outside the

1000
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: pocket to Josh Allen. Question is did Josh factor into

1001
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: any of your other types of throws? Like, was he

1002
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: near the top at any of the other categories, and

1003
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: if so, what were there is? I was just curious. Yeah,

1004
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: he outside the pocket was not a surprise, as you

1005
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 1: both know. Yeah, um coughing fit so very sorry. Last

1006
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: year he was dying. I mean in twenty twenties Dynamite

1007
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: against the Blitz. He threw fourteen touchdowns and four interceptions.

1008
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: Last year against Suplits. The only problem was Matthew Stafford

1009
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: through seventeen touchdowns and no interceptions again Splitz, so he

1010
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 1: would have been second or third. Stafford was just off

1011
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: the charts on designed rollouts. Josh was right up there.

1012
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,479
Speaker 1: It's just that Dak Prescott was a little bit better.

1013
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: And we're talking, you know, fractions and degrees here. So

1014
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: the good news is I just put up the worst

1015
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks for trow article today and he was not anywhere

1016
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: near as that. I guess the better news for the Bills,

1017
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: given the Jets are in the division, is that Zach

1018
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: Wilson was all over it. Now, Zach was a rookie,

1019
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see how that goes. But a

1020
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: lot of ugly tape there. So Josh, he made one

1021
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: place on the list, but he was very close in

1022
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: several others. I believe seven step drops he was right

1023
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: up there too, And that's you know, deep throws, waiting

1024
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: for stuff to develop, whether you're moving around in the

1025
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: pocket or not. So that would probably come as no

1026
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: surprise to anyone who's Washington play. You also have an

1027
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 1: article that just came out, and I love these offseason articles,

1028
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, ranking types of quarterbacks, ranking offenses, defenses, different

1029
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: players for different categories. You had one that said who

1030
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: are the most underrated defensive players in the NFL? And

1031
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: our Bill's safety Jordan Poyer landed on that list. And

1032
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: I think if you would ask Bills fans, we are

1033
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: very aware at how underrated he is because we've gotten

1034
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: to see what he's done since he's been a part

1035
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: of this team and walked into one Bill's drive and

1036
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: to see the season that him and Mike Hyde put

1037
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: together was really impressive, combining for ten total interceptions. From

1038
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: outside looking in, though, why do you view him as

1039
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: an underrated defensive player? Well, the thing about player what

1040
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: you hear nationally is more, well, he's a good deep

1041
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: third guy, but he doesn't really do anything else. And

1042
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: when I went back and looked at his advanced metrics

1043
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: and watched his tape, he's a great blitzer, he handles

1044
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: run fits just fine. And then when he's been he

1045
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: and High are the best safety drew in the NFL.

1046
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: Think that's pretty clear. It has been for a couple

1047
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: of years. I believe his opponent passer rating aloud and

1048
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: started was thirteen point two, which was by far the

1049
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: most of any safety or any any defensive player. No

1050
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: one came close to. That's you have three times more

1051
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: of a chance of success throwing it into section two

1052
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: thirty than you do throwing it anywhere in your Jordan player.

1053
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: That's just how good he is as a pass defender.

1054
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: And I'm glad her the stats. This is not me

1055
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: sort of guilding the lily and trying to make something happen.

1056
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: I like in the stats, if they match up the tape,

1057
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: that's the guy I put in there. Washington Bille's defense

1058
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: pretty comprehensively with the lastew years. It was nice to

1059
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: get at least one of those guys in there, and

1060
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: players certainly I think hides a slightly bigger name nationalist.

1061
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: It was nice that player made that list and made

1062
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: it really easy for me to put him in there.

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00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: Swinging back to Alan really quick, I'm curious to get

1064
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: your projection on this, Doug, because we saw Patrick Mahomes

1065
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: and his passing game move in this direction last year

1066
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: where his deep ball throwing kind of came back to

1067
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: the mean a little bit and he relied at all. Yeah,

1068
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: he was, Yeah, it really went away right and he

1069
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: and it was due in part to the fact that

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00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: his targets were getting early separation in the play and

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00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: so he was throwing shorter, you know, more often because

1072
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: the guys were getting open quicker. Um. I'm wondering if

1073
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: the makeup of Josh Allen's receiving targets this year could

1074
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 1: travel down that path as well. If Isaiah McKenzie gets

1075
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: more time on the field, Jamison Crowder is getting a

1076
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: high snap count. You know, Diggs can get open early

1077
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: in the down. Could you see a similar passing trend

1078
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: for Josh Allen here in twenty twenty two that we

1079
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: saw with Mahomes last year? Not to mention the guy

1080
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: I watched tape with Frew was drafted, mister GiB Davis

1081
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: who almost made by all underrated offense team. Yeah, certainly

1082
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: after that playoff game. Um, you know, I don't I

1083
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: don't know that the Bill's offensive staff has the same

1084
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: kind of challenge that the Chiefs have had with Mahomes

1085
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: because Mahomes he is a bit more of a gun slinger.

1086
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: There is a bit more yolo to his game. I

1087
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:25,479
Speaker 1: think I think Josh that the three or four game

1088
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: stretch in twenty twenty where he came out in the

1089
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: beginning of the year and just demolished man coverage, that

1090
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: everyone hit him his own and you know, switching safeties

1091
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: and all that, and his head kind of exploded. And

1092
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about this before when Bill's live

1093
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: and they've all said, Okay, we're just gonna dial everything back,

1094
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: go to quick game, and then Josh sort of got

1095
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: it against and got it against more complex coverage and

1096
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: then they okay, now you can handle the whole thing.

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01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: I don't see a reason or you know, for that

1098
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: much of a difference. Um. I'll also tell you that

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01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox made my All Underrated offense team, and if

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01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: you can handle that, you know, deal with the drops,

1101
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: which was kind of the one debbit. I mean, they

1102
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: have an explosive offense. They have guys who can get

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01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: open all over the place, and certainly Devin Singletary, who

1104
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Speaker 1: also made my All Unrated offense. You know, I think

1105
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: their offense is fully formed. I think they can do

1106
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: pretty much whatever they want, except for you know, they're

1107
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: not They don't have that sustaining big running back at

1108
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: this point, but you can win without that. Not every

1109
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: team has that, not every team wants that or he

1110
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: needs that, and when they need power running, they just

1111
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: give it to Josh and he does this Cam Newton

1112
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: thing and you know, gets the first down or a touchdown.

1113
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: So I don't see a specific reason for them to

1114
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: really dial back from what they're doing, and they're probably

1115
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna keep doing what they were strong at last season.

1116
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: Maybe out a couple new wrinkles because they do have

1117
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator here in Ken Dorsey, and you

1118
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: kind of look at the run game. You look at

1119
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, what he's brought to this team, but maybe

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01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: what he can still add to this offense with a

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01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator. They also have a new offensive line

1122
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: coach and Aaron Krohmer, who has been a part of

1123
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: the staff a few years back. But they also have

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01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: a guy in James Cook who was kind of a

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01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: dual threat type of player at Georgia who could catch

1126
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: balls out of the backfield but also run the rock

1127
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: when needed and put up good numbers there as well,

1128
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: playing with some amazing talent beside him. It was kind

1129
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: of like choose your poison type of offense there. And

1130
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: we know how good that Georgia team was, But if

1131
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: you had to look at the run game, what would

1132
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: you want the Bills to do with their run game

1133
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: this year? If anything different under a new offensive a

1134
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: coordinator and under a new offensive line coach. Well, speaking

1135
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: you guys, I watched tape with I watched tape with

1136
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: Zach Moss before he was wrapped in. I really liked

1137
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: his game. I would love to see him develop into

1138
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: that more pounding, sustaining Okay, it's you know, thirty two.

1139
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: We got to get a first tall. Let's do that.

1140
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: Because Singletary and Cook are somewhat similar in that they

1141
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: can catch the ball, they can do a lot of

1142
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: different things, but they're really not power guys per se.

1143
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: Singletary and Cook, who of course is Dablin Cook's younger brother,

1144
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: not really the same type of back though Singletary and

1145
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: I did a tape example in the Underrated piece, Singletary

1146
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: has one of the best jump cuts in the NFL.

1147
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: He and there's a touchdown against the Patriots who just

1148
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: went boom and off, he was gone and no one

1149
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: could catch him. Cook is that same type of guy

1150
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: running me James White from the Patriots. So the only

1151
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: thing I would say, and this is more personnel than

1152
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: any lack of thing that Singletary or Cook has because

1153
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: they're just you know, they're just different types of players.

1154
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: You don't want your five nine slot receiver to go

1155
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: contested catch with Jalen Rams. You have to know what

1156
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: your players can and can't do, and maybe Zach Moss

1157
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: can do that guy. For the most part, Josh Allen

1158
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: is the power runner, and that's worked pretty well. I

1159
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: don't know how many years you want your quarterback to

1160
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: do that. If there's one thing I'd like to see

1161
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: the Bills accentuate and develop in the run game, it

1162
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: is that power element that maybe doesn't rely so much

1163
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: on Josh because that's how they've gotten away with it.

1164
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: And again, you know, knock on Formica. You don't want

1165
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: him to get hurt doing that, which a lot of

1166
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks can do. Yeah, last one I've got for you, Doug,

1167
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: is in your way too Early. Twenty twenty three NFL

1168
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: mock Draft, you had the Bills taking Oregon linebacker Noah Sewell,

1169
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: but you picked him thirty second overall, which means you

1170
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: think the Bills are winning the Super Bowl. So explain yourself.

1171
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,959
Speaker 1: I'm going last year, my prediction was the Bills would

1172
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: beat the Packers in the Super Bowl. Didn't quite happen.

1173
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that this year the Bills will

1174
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: beat the Rams. So that's that's how I have that going.

1175
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: Sewell he's I mean, obviously as a linebacker, he's smaller

1176
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: than his brother, very athletic, and it fits kind of

1177
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: because the Bills play as much Nickel as any first

1178
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: league they need those two athletic linebackers. You know, they've

1179
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: they've had that, and he would you know, just watching

1180
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: him and thinking about, well, you know what they like

1181
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: to do, they like to do this, and you know

1182
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: that that's their consistent defensive profile. So I think he

1183
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: would be a great fit for them. Yeah, are you

1184
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: good many? Yeah, awesome, that's what I like to hear. Yeah, Hey,

1185
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: I just like the fact that he had the Bills

1186
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: picking thirty second because we all know what that means. Job.

1187
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: Thanks as always for the insight. We'll catch up with

1188
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: you down the line for sure, but enjoy your summer

1189
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: and thanks for the time as always. One quick thing

1190
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: if I could, Yeah, I wanted to send a shout

1191
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: out to Chris Prone, who is our fearless leader at

1192
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: US Today sports media group. Chris is leaving us to

1193
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: run Sports Illustrated, and Chris is the biggest Bills fan

1194
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: I've ever met. Literally ends every phone call with go

1195
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: Bills as if you guys can say, Hi, Chris. We're

1196
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: sad to lose him, but we're happy for his future. Yeah,

1197
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: Hello to Chris, and congrats to Chris. Yeah, we might

1198
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: have to get him on the show. Doug, you know

1199
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 1: sis good to go up top who loves the Bills.

1200
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: So there you go. Awesome, Thanks for the heads up

1201
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: and thanks for the time as always, Doug, enjoy your summer,

1202
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: My pleasure. Thank you. All right. That's Doug Ferrar joining

1203
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: us USA today. NFL writer and editor always has his

1204
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: finger on the pulse of the league at large. It's

1205
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: kind of take It's nice sometimes because we suffer from

1206
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: Bill's myopia here to kind of take a step back

1207
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: and kind of widen the focus. And Doug does a

1208
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: good job of doing that for us, even though we

1209
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: ended up asking him a bunch of Bill's questions. Anyway,

1210
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: we kind always gravitate in that direction. It's a it's

1211
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: like a crutch almost for us in some way. But

1212
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: always good to catch up with Doug. We did want

1213
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: to get back to the mailbag, though, and answer some

1214
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: more questions there. Bill's news asks. Leslie Frazier mentioned that

1215
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: von Miller has his own way to stay fresh for

1216
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: critical moments of the fourth quarter. Do you force c

1217
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: Miller's snap count increasing as the game progresses or how

1218
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: do you envision snap count usage during games? Now? I

1219
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: believe Jerry hughes led the team in snap count percentage.

1220
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: I want to say it was fifty eight percent of

1221
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: the snaps. There is rarely a defensive lineman that gets

1222
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: more than fifty eight, fifty five, fifty eight, not even near.

1223
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: Nobody gets over sixty percent in most cases. Now, I

1224
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: will say in the playoffs last year, Jerry snap counts

1225
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: went up precipitously, and I think it was due to

1226
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: the fact that they felt he was their most effective

1227
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: pass rusher and some of those younger players kind of

1228
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: hit a wall and fell off, and so coach Fraser

1229
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: relied and Coach Washington relied on his veteran players to

1230
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: get the job done more often than they had in

1231
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: the regular season. But we heard Leslie say this week, Maddie,

1232
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: the rotational system will continue. Yeah, And to think about

1233
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: somebody like Von Miller or Jerry Hugheser or any older

1234
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: veteran defensive lineman. I think you think about these players

1235
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: as it's a marathon, not a sprint. You're gonna want

1236
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: everything you can get out of Von Miller at the

1237
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: end of the season in the playoffs, but you're also

1238
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: gonna want the same out of him in the beginning

1239
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: of the season, because look at our schedule, it's not

1240
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: like there's a gradual increase into the type of opponents

1241
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: that we're playing. No, We're going right off the bat

1242
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: against the Rams and then the Titans. So I think

1243
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 1: it's nice for von Miller's benefit is that this rotation

1244
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: is going to continue with the defensive line. We'll see

1245
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: if any really strong candidates stand out, because last year

1246
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: they were way more rotational than they were the year before.

1247
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: If I can remember correctly, they started out rotationally that

1248
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 1: first season that they're going to do it, and then

1249
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: they kind of went back to their old ways a

1250
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: little bit because they were getting some more out of

1251
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: some of the stronger guys, guys who are contributing a

1252
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: little bit more. But one thing that I'll say about

1253
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: von Miller is I think he is in great shape.

1254
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: I think his body really well. I think a player

1255
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: at this age is going to know what they need

1256
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: to put in to get ready for a season, to

1257
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 1: sustain during a season, and to push through the playoffs.

1258
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: There it's it's not a surprise that this guy shows

1259
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: up at the end of the season in big time

1260
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: moments over and over again. If you look at him

1261
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: during practices, well, he is not on the field, he

1262
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: is running up and down the field quite frequently to

1263
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 1: be able to stay in good shape, to keep his

1264
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 1: heart rate up, whatever it is. He is a pros

1265
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: pro in terms of getting ready and staying ready. Yeah,

1266
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: I think he also wants to keep his muscles warm

1267
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: because he knows that his advanced age in this league.

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Speaker 1: If I stand on the sidelines for two series and

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Speaker 1: then I come back on the field cold, that could

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Speaker 1: be detrimental to my soft muscle tissues. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's the other reason why he jogs up and down

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Speaker 1: the field, just to keep his legs warm. I thought

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Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier kind of was a little b at telling

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Speaker 1: when he said the rotational system will continue because we

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Speaker 1: want von Miller fresh in the fourth quarter. So I

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Speaker 1: think if there is a point in time where you

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Speaker 1: would expect von Miller's snap count to go up, it

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Speaker 1: would be in the fourth quarter of football games, and

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Speaker 1: especially on money downs. You got a team threatening them

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Speaker 1: in the red zone and it's third and eight, von

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Speaker 1: Miller is unquestionably going to be on the field. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no if sands or butts about it. The only

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01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: time where you may not see him on the field.

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Speaker 1: Is in what they might deem an obvious run situation.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's second and two and Shaq Lawson comes on

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01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: the field because he's a better set the edge run defender.

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01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: So they will specialize it based on down and distance

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01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: at times, and then in critical junctures of the game.

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Speaker 1: Von Miller is unquestionably going to be on the field.

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Speaker 1: Brian asks, if it looks like Trey White won't be

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Speaker 1: ready until mid season or November, do you think they

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Speaker 1: will bring in a veteran defensive back. I think that's

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Speaker 1: going to rut. That's going to depend on a couple

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01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: of things, not only Trey White's health, but how consistent

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01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 1: and reliable is the play of Dane Jackson and Kayer Elam.

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Speaker 1: If those two guys are holding their own and doing well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they go that route unless they

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Speaker 1: feel they need veteran insurance. And here's why I think

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Speaker 1: they like cam Lewis a lot a depth player at corner,

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Speaker 1: who they said this week Maddie is not only going

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Speaker 1: to back up in the nickel spot behind Terren Johnson,

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01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,560
Speaker 1: but they're going to try him outside again too. I

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01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: think that's an important thing to file away, and you

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01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: have young guys in the pipeline. Nick McLeod is a

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Speaker 1: six one, two hundred and five pound corner. They still

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01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: think Sir and Neil can be a veteran can be

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Speaker 1: a veteran backup corner for them. So there are guys

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01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: on the roster that I think they want to get

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01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: a long look at in the training camp, in preseason setting,

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01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: and if they convince them that they can be reliable depth.

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01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: If Trey White's not ready, I don't know that they

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01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: go go get a veteran out there. I'm counting right now.

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Speaker 1: And they have Tim Harris too, who's a veteran corner.

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Speaker 1: He's a five year guy. They might have twelve corners

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Speaker 1: on the roster right now. I'm my quick counting. Yeah,

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01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: it's definitely the mother and ten if you want to

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01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: count it up. As I'm talking twelve corners. Twelve corners.

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Speaker 1: I almost doubted that number because that's such a big

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01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: number at that cornerback position. That's a number that you

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01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: keep a defensive line and offensive line, not at cornerback.

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Speaker 1: Even in the off season. It's usually not that high. Now,

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Speaker 1: in fairness, I would say that if you want to

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Speaker 1: count proven NFL corners on this roster, you have Tarn Johnson,

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01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: Dredevious White, who is an IF right now, and then

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Speaker 1: I guess I would put Dane Jackson. I think he

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Speaker 1: proved himself last year. I put him in the proving category.

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Speaker 1: Tim Harris has played in this league for five years,

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Speaker 1: not a lot of starts, but he's got snaps. Would

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Speaker 1: you call improven? I suppose that's up for debate. And

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Speaker 1: then Cam Lewis has been around here four years, hasn't

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01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: played a lot, and Sir Ran Neil has time in

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Speaker 1: the league, but again hasn't played a lot. On defense,

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Speaker 1: who you call proven, who do you call unproven? How

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Speaker 1: much does that impact making a decision on picking up

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01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: event That's really up to the coaching staff. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: definitely think it's a wait and see. I think they

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01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: want to be happy with what they have on the

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Speaker 1: roster when you look at the cornerback spot right now,

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01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: because if you have asked Leslie or Brandon or Sean,

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01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: they will fight for the guys that they have on

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01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: this roster right now. And I think they feel really

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01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: comfortable with the cornerbacks that they have on the roster.

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01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 1: Right now. So I would say you feel it out,

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01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: you see what's going on with Trey. If Trey's not ready,

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01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: then you assess what you have. You see what you

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01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: have in camp. There is going to be great competition

1347
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: in camp. Sean McDermott loves when there's competition in camp

1348
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: and you see what comes out of it. And if

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Speaker 1: you feel like you need to add a veteran in

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01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: that room, they're gonna go do it. But I don't

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01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: think they're going to do it before. They're not going

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01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: to make that decision too early. Yeah, because I don't

1353
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: want to say you owe it, but it only benefits

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01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: you as a team if you give these young players

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01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 1: the opportunity to prove themselves through the course of training

1356
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: camp in the preseason. And who knows the answer for

1357
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: you maybe on your roster already, but the only way

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01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: to find that out is by giving them the time

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01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 1: on the field to prove they can be that answer

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01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: for you, and then if they're not. The reason that

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: works and the reason you can wait is because in

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01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: late August, that's when other teams are clipping veterans off

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01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: their roster that they may not meet anymore. And suddenly

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01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: the pool is deeper in terms of veteran talent you

1365
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: can go after and pick up, you know, out there

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01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: on the street because they got clipped from another one

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01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: of the thirty one rosters. So waiting just makes sense

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01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: at this point in time. We have to take a

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01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: break here. When we come back, we'll finish up the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet and maybe work in a little NFL true

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Speaker 1: false as well next year. On One Bills Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Klaida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, a

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Speaker 1: little more mail bag here on One Bills Live. First, Bam,

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Speaker 1: Maddie glab with you on a Friday, and Michelle asks,

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01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: how many games do you think the Bills will win

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01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: this year? Happy Bill? They did birthday Maddie. Thanks, Why

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01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: don't why don't you take that one from trying to

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01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: think of what Tasker and I picked when we did

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01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: our schedule release show. I think I had it at

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Speaker 1: thirteen wins. Okay, yeah, I am gonna go twelve, only

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01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: because it's hard for me not to think of the

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01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: couple of hiccups they had last year, right, and a

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01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: seventeen game schedule is just such a long stretch that,

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01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: as loaded as this team is, I just think there's

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01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: gonna be one or maybe two games where they're not

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01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: lights out great and it might cost him a game

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01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: that it shouldn't and so I'll I think they're gonna

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01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: have one of those games, and so because of that,

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01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: I have them at twelve instead of thirteen. I totally

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01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: get that. I was going between twelve and thirteen when

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01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: I was making my decision, and Tasker ended up choosing

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Speaker 1: twelve wins, and so because he chose twelve, I was like,

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01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm going with thirteen, right, Well, I hope you're right.

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01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some hiccups at a point in time

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01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: during this season every teams. Every team has them. The

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 1: beginning of the schedule is so tough. It's gonna be

1397
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: hard to have all your stuff straight week one and

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01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: week two when you're playing teams like the Rams and

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: the Titans, when you're probably still trying to figure out

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01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: a couple of spots on the roster, When when we're

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01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: trying to see if Tredavious White is ready to go,

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01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: or maybe there's a different corner who's who's starting in

1403
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 1: his first game of his NFL career that's not named

1404
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: Kayer elam So it's hard to have everything ironed out

1405
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,919
Speaker 1: as good as this roster is and as has proven,

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01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: and how you kind of look at this rosters like

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01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: a veteran rosters as a veteran as some of these

1408
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: guys are, You're still going to hit bumps in the road. Yeah,

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01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: and not to mention the fact that you have two

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01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: new coordinators. So that's stuff that you know you hopefully

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01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: iron out in the preseason. But when the real bullets

1412
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: are flying, stuff goes a little bit faster. Maybe it's

1413
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 1: all not completely buttoned up in airtight right from the

1414
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: jump despite their best efforts. TJ on the fan Mailbag says,

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01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: with Trey White's return date kind of murky, Jordan Poyer

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01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,879
Speaker 1: possibly holding out for a new contract, do we possibly

1417
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: targeted to Sean Gibson at the safety position of Kevin

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01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: King at the wonder position, maybe even for proving depth

1419
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: for a playoff run. I think this is a similar

1420
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: answer to what we just had to wait and see,

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01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: ye even at the safety position, Like what does Jordan

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01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: show up? If he doesn't show up a mini camp,

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01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: is he showing up a training camp? Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

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01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you, the fines get pretty cost

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01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: prohibitive once you get to training camp. It's fifty grand

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01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: a day. So even if you're making big bank, that's

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01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 1: a lot of cash to forego. I wouldn't want to

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01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: be out fifty grand a day, but yeah, I would

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01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: say wait, wait and see for the safety position as well.

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01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: You've got you've got depth there, and you might as

1431
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: well see how the depth is working before the season begins,

1432
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: because there's there's always going to be time, at least

1433
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 1: right now in this season. You have enough time to

1434
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: pick people up if you need to. Rachel on the

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01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: tweet sheet says, do you see Dawson Knox is our

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01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: number one tight end and Howard is the backup who

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01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: sometimes comes in for double tight end sets or do

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01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,879
Speaker 1: you think they will have more of a fifty fifty rotation.

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01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: I see Knox as the number one here, Maddie. But

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01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't know that Howard getting on

1441
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: the field comes at the expense of Knox coming off

1442
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: the field. I expect Howard to be a compliment to Knox,

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01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: and I think what Ken Dorsey has that Brian Dabele

1444
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: did not have with this offense is uncommon personnel grouping flexibility.

1445
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: I think Brian Dabele had a nice bit of depth

1446
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: at receiver, but that limits you eleven ten what are

1447
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: you doing personnel wise? What Ken Dorsey has is depth

1448
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: at the tight end spot. Now he's got better depth

1449
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 1: at the running back spot, and because of that, I

1450
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: think that opens up a world of personnel grouping possibilities

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01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: for him. And So to answer the question, I don't

1452
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 1: see Howard as a fifty fifty proposition. I see Howard

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01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: as a complimentary proposition to who Knox where they're on

1454
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: the field at the same time, not necessarily a one

1455
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: or the other situation. I also think one big hope

1456
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: for Howard, um that's a goal for himself probably and

1457
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: a hope for this entire team and fan base, is

1458
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: the health aspect of it. Yeah, he wasn't healthy all

1459
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: the time with the Bucks, and I think that really

1460
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: affected what he was able to do on the field, obviously,

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Speaker 1: But but his NFL career so far, I mean, the

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01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: type of player he was in college and the type

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01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: of player he has been in the NFL are really

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01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: two different players, and I think health has played a

1465
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: big factor into that. So I hope we're getting a

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01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: tight end who's going to be healthy this year, because

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Speaker 1: if he is, I think he can be a weapon

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01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: of his own with Oh yeah, the measurables that this

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01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: kid has. I mean, the first day he was on

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Speaker 1: the field, I'm like, oh my gosh, this kid is huge.

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01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: That he's he's a walking Josh Allen and Dawson Knox

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01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: is really big too. But um, to have two of

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01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: those people on and you know, you say, well, how

1474
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: often is how we're going to be used? That's up

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01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: for debate because number one, we don't know what Ken

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Speaker 1: Dorsey's preferences are. Number Two, his time on the field

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Speaker 1: might be based on the opponent they're facing each week.

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01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: But I think you can rest assured that when this

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Speaker 1: team gets down in the red zone, they're gonna have

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01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: both of those big guys on the field because they're

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01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: huge targets who are athletic, can go up and get

1482
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: the ball out jumped just about any corner or safety

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01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: in the league. So it only makes sense to have

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01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 1: both of those guys on the field at the same

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Speaker 1: time down there in the red zone. Nick from the

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Speaker 1: mail Bag about how big of a contract do you

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01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: think Tremaine Edmonds will require and do you think he's

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01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: earned that amount. I think he's overly criticized by fans,

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01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I don't know if he's

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01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: really earned a top linebacker contract. He's gonna make about

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01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: twelve and a half twelve seven this year already, and

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01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: I think he would be looking to make that much,

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01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 1: if not more, on a long term deal average annual

1494
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: salary wise. Next year. The question is do the Bills

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01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: have enough money to go around for everybody? Because Dawson

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01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: Knox is a guy, what are you doing with Devin Singletary?

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01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: And then you've got Gabe Davis entering the final year

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01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: of his deal next year on his rookie contract, So

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01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: there are a lot of considerations here besides at Oliver too. Yeah,

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01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of mouths to feed on this team.

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01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: And you look at the deals that have happened and

1502
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: the way that money is being kicked down the road

1503
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: for players like Josh Allen and how Brandon Bean has

1504
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: done a great job of structuring all these contracts. It's

1505
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: not going to get any easier, and you're not going

1506
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: to be able to afford every player you want on

1507
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 1: this team. Of course, salary cap numbers are going to

1508
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: go up because of the new TV deal that's going

1509
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: to be put in place, but it's certainly not enough

1510
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: to afford every single guy that we have right now.

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01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 1: I think everybody would love that, but I think Tremaine

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01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: Edmunds has to take it a step further this season.

1513
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: I think he knows that. I think Leslie Fraser knows that.

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01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: I think the defense knows that. Has he been a

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01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: terrible linebacker. Now he's been a really important part of

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01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: the defense and he's done some great stuff. But the

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01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: thing with him, and the thing that we've talked about

1518
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: really the last two seasons now is the splash plays.

1519
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: Is we need Tremaine Edmunds to make more splash plays.

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01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: We need Tremaine Edmunds to make more plays in big

1521
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: time moments, and hopefully that shows up for him this

1522
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: season because he's a great guy. He's taken on a

1523
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: leadership role that I think is out of his character

1524
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 1: to begin with, but he's been charged to do that

1525
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: and I think he's done a nice job with that.

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01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 1: And you can hear him talking in practices now. Of

1527
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: course he has to talk because he's the mic linebacker,

1528
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: but He's taken on a big leadership role after Lorenzo

1529
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 1: Alexander left and I think he's grown a lot of

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01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: ways on this team and I hope he continues to

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01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,839
Speaker 1: do that this season. Yeah. As far as top salaries

1532
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: at the inside linebacker position, Darius Leonard set the market

1533
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: with the daily signed late last year, which was five years,

1534
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: ninety eight and a half million. It averages out to

1535
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: nineteen point seven million per season. Then you have CJ.

1536
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: Moley Moseley at seventeen a year, Zach Cunningham at fourteen

1537
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: and a half a year, and then Dion Jones with

1538
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: the Falcons at fourteen and a quarter a year, and

1539
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: then from there it drops down to ten million a year.

1540
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are they going to be able

1541
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: to handle a contract of that size with all the

1542
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: other guys we've mentioned. I don't know if that's the case,

1543
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: so we'll have to see what they decide upon. But

1544
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,799
Speaker 1: if he starts making those Giants splash plays, changing games,

1545
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: it'll probably be a consideration. The question is whether they

1546
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: can find common ground and make it happen, and I

1547
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: think that's a big if. Right now, Let's go quickly

1548
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 1: to a little NFL True Falls brought to you by

1549
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 1: Yancy's Fancy New York's artists in Cheese, and we'll start.

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01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 1: We might not. We're probably not gonna have time for

1551
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 1: all of these. But number one, boy too a tongue

1552
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: of violo, is a dark horse to win NFL MVP.

1553
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: This is a short discussion what I don't know who.

1554
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: I didn't look at these things. I look over this

1555
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: stuff before this show. I didn't get to this part.

1556
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: I've shook no false. Moving on number two, the top

1557
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: priority for the Carolina Panthers this offseason is to say

1558
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: yes to Baker Mayfield. I'm going to say this is

1559
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: false also, and the only reason I say that is

1560
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: because they already have Sam Darnold, and I know he's

1561
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: probably not the answer, but they also drafted Matt Corrall.

1562
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 1: When they tried to get Baker Mayfield in a trade

1563
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: with Cleveland, they offered to pay as much as six

1564
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: million of his eighteen point eight five million dollars salary,

1565
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,759
Speaker 1: and the Brown said no. So I'm gonna say false.

1566
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying false two because I think that ship has

1567
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: sailed a while ago. So we do get to number

1568
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: three here. Number three on NFL true false. Jack's head coach,

1569
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson will make life easier for Trevor Lawrence. This

1570
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: was maybe the easiest true false we've ever had. Yes, true,

1571
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: we're comparing Doug Peterson to Urban Meyer. You could have

1572
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: put me as head coach. It would have been easier

1573
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence. I was waiting to have drawn up

1574
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: a play in my life when Urban was there. I

1575
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 1: was just waiting to see how long was this going

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01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: to last. I don't I don't know if anybody thought

1577
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 1: it was gonna last a while. But yes, Trevor Lawrence

1578
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: had some success in spite of Urban Meyer last year

1579
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: as a rookie. Now with Doug Peterson, who actually was

1580
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback himself, yes, he unquestionably will make life

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01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: easier for Trevor Lawrence. All right, that's NFL True Falls,

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01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: brought to you by Yancy's Fancy New York's Artists and Cheese.

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01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: Break time for us here, Mannie and I back to

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Speaker 1: close it up. Next, You're on One Bill's Live, presented

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01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, Maddy,

1586
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 1: so we know it's only a formality for Rob Walton

1587
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,839
Speaker 1: to be approved as the new owner of the Broncos

1588
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 1: after his four point six to five billion dollar bid

1589
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: to own the team, And even though he has to

1590
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: await league approval as the new owner, he's already recruiting

1591
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,759
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning to have an advisory role and a possible

1592
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: ownership stake with Peyton Manning, who obviously won a couple

1593
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 1: of Super Bowls or won a Super Bowl with the Broncos.

1594
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: How much of how much ownership do you think it's

1595
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: going to take to get Peyton Manning to say, yes,

1596
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: what's the percentage that Manning pockets on the Broncos for ownership? One?

1597
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: It is only right that they have already reached out

1598
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 1: to him. I feel like you would be doing a

1599
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: disservice to the team, to the history, to paint Manning

1600
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 1: to ask him to come on, come on the ship,

1601
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: let's go. How much? What's your percentage? You think that's

1602
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: going to convince Manning? I'm in I don't know if

1603
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: I want to put a number on it, but I

1604
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 1: think it would have to be a significant amount because

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01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't yet. I don't think he would not waste

1606
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: his time, but I feel like Peyton Manning is very

1607
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: selective with what he does. I would agree. So although

1608
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: he's in a lot of stuff, he is in a

1609
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. Maybe he's getting a little bit more

1610
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: loose with that. But now here's the thing. If he

1611
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: does take on ownership, he's technically an NFL employee, and

1612
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: he's going to have to divest himself of all the

1613
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 1: stuff he does with Caesar Sportsbook and his brother and

1614
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: his dad and all that stuff. So that's why there

1615
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 1: has to be there has like, I'm gonna have to

1616
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: divest myself of this stuff if I'm part of an

1617
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 1: NFL property over here. To put a number on it,

1618
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say ten percent. Okay. I think if they

1619
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: give him ten percent ownership, I think that will be

1620
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: enough because that's four hundred and sixty five million. I

1621
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: think that's I think that'll get it done. Yeah, you know, yeah,

1622
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: technically that's the value. If he bought it for four

1623
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: point six that's a good number. A little bit more

1624
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: sign up for that. Give me forty six and a

1625
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: half thousand dollars, please be on board there. Yeah, So

1626
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 1: it looks like Manning wins again. Are we shocked? We're

1627
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: not shocked, now, Maddie thanks for your help today. As always,

1628
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: we have a great show coming your way Monday. Steve

1629
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: Tasker is back and from NFL Network Judy Batista will

1630
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: join us. We'll see you at one o'clock. Have a

1631
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 1: great weekend everybody,