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Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast. The One at a Time addition as

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Speaker 1: the Bengals look for their second straight win as they

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Speaker 1: discuss Joe Burrow's successful return from toe surgery with another

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Speaker 1: Famer Tony Pike. My one on one player interview is

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Speaker 1: quarterback Tony Pike led the University of Cincinnati to back

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Speaker 1: to back appearances in the Orange and Sugar Bowls despite

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Speaker 1: serious injuries to his left forearm. In both seasons. He

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Speaker 1: So if anybody can identify with what Joe Burrow did

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Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving night, it's Tony and he joined Dave Lapham

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Speaker 1: and me to discuss it this week. Scale of one

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Speaker 1: to ten, all things considered, the rust coming back with

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Speaker 3: Scale of that's good, Like every professional has been blown

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Speaker 3: away that he came back as early as he did. Yep,

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Speaker 3: And to not only come back, he goes under center

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Speaker 3: around maybe some deficiencies. Is his mobility limited? He was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Now there's credit where credits do He was only sacked once.

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Speaker 5: Year, no doubt, no question. I mean, he played a

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Speaker 5: Everyone says, all right, like there's a calmness about Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 3: I think confidence is one of the most important things

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Speaker 5: Confidence is the biggest thing in life, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 5: And Joe Burrow keeps hope alive, and everybody responds to her.

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Speaker 5: Everybody ups their level of play. And when this next game,

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Speaker 5: It's all three of those guys, and all three of

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from head coach Zach Taylor on Joe Burrow's

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Speaker 1: It was funny because when Joe was out and people

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Speaker 1: one thing that you heard a lot of skeptics say was, well,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't play defense. Yeah, I mean there's still scoring

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow. That's a good formula to win a lot

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Speaker 5: And you know the other people you have to give

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Speaker 4: And you know, the.

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Speaker 5: Brace, the foot brace that they constructed, they designed and

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Speaker 4: He sucked it up. He sucked it up and played.

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Speaker 5: And I just think that, you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 5: his parents, I mean, his dad, his dad, jamians mother,

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Speaker 5: total support. Joe Burrow definitely has, you know, a support system,

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Speaker 5: But he has to do the work and and he

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Speaker 5: he's a grinder and he grounded out. Man, he did

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Speaker 3: It's lonely. Oh yeah, that rehab process, Yeah, it's hard,

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Speaker 4: And Joe, Joe worked.

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Speaker 3: If Dean Dawkins is listening, I wouldn't push the concussion,

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Speaker 4: Rush and you got to blitz Joe. Yeah, good luck, right,

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Speaker 5: I think, honestly, the Buffalo Bill's injury are more of

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Speaker 1: Way, and I want Dalton Kincaid out. Yeah. Yeah. Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen has thrown ten picks this year. None With Dalton

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Speaker 7: It means a lot, man, even guys who fight through

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Speaker 4: I was just ready to go go home.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 7: It was a long two days for us, and I

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Speaker 1: You got the feast the next night.

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Speaker 7: I did got up early, even though we got back

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Speaker 7: You gotta do the little things right. This was really

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Speaker 7: Oh, for sure, especially the two regular linebackers, sitting them

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Speaker 8: There in their role.

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Speaker 7: Man, He's everything you want as a quarterback. He's one

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Speaker 7: of the best in the league. He's big, he's strong,

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Speaker 7: he's fast, got a good arm. He's one of the

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Speaker 7: guys that's like I said, he's one of the best

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Speaker 7: to do it in the league. Right now, we got

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Speaker 7: a hands full, but I believe we got the defense

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Speaker 7: the in in our room, the dude need to do

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Speaker 7: to win the game.

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Speaker 1: What do you remember about that sack?

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Speaker 7: I think I second more than you. Don't really count playoffs,

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Speaker 7: but you know saying we might go out the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Think I got them?

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Speaker 7: Think I got them twice?

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Speaker 8: I think so my apology.

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Speaker 7: Now, remember I believe he's miss Samue run a text game.

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Speaker 7: I got vertical. Sam rapped around on a sacking.

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Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo ran for two hundred and forty nine yards last

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Speaker 1: week and their win over Pittsburgh. James Cook has seven

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Speaker 1: one hundred yard games this year. What must do you

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Speaker 1: do to slow down that Buffalo rushing attack on Sunday?

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Speaker 4: He can do it all.

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Speaker 7: Catch out of the backfield, run it make you miss,

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Speaker 7: hard to tackle strong, Like I said, we just got

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Speaker 7: to swim to the ball. Get all hats to the ball.

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Speaker 7: Tackle somebody missed the tackle, Max, sure somebody right there

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Speaker 7: hitting them right after. I'll be play technically sound. Make

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Speaker 7: sure we're standing our guess and playing good football together.

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Speaker 7: Build a wall so you know it's hard for him

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Speaker 7: to to you know, cutting them gaps and stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: So we played good football for what we can do

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Speaker 7: we need to do.

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Speaker 1: There's still a path to win the AFC North, but

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Speaker 1: it's narrow. If you win this week, does it really

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Speaker 1: feel possible? Does it take a couple of wins Buffalo

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Speaker 1: and Baltimore. Where do you stand on the realistic chances

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Speaker 1: of still pulling this off? Uh?

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Speaker 7: My mind right now, just one game at the time,

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Speaker 7: I look ahead. I'll just come on and play our

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Speaker 7: bis ball. Whatever happens happens. And I feel like if

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Speaker 7: we put our bits for Ford on defensive sideyball, I

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Speaker 7: no offense is gonna take do their part. I who

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Speaker 7: do our side on the defenses I'll take care of.

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Speaker 1: So appreciate your time. Best to luck against the Bills.

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Speaker 7: Oh thank you.

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Speaker 1: watch the game on TV this week, you'll hear an

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Speaker 1: announcing crew that has not been assigned to a Bengals

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Speaker 1: game this year. The analyst will be Greg Oles, who

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Speaker 1: was number one on the totem pole at Fox before

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady decided to get into broadcasting, and the play

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Speaker 1: by play announcer on Sunday made this memorable call on

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Speaker 1: November one in Toronto, bounces.

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Speaker 9: To back that chap, you gotta come out the Dodger

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Speaker 9: Standta Bedwin back to back titles.

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Speaker 1: Joe Davis called one of the greatest world series of

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Speaker 1: all time earlier this year, and he will be in

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Speaker 1: the booth this Sunday when the Bengals take on the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Joe, it's Joe Burrow versus Josh Allen. What

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Speaker 1: was your initial reaction when Joe Burrow came back from

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Speaker 1: his injury way ahead of schedule And how did you

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Speaker 1: think he played on Thanksgiving Night?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the first thing was, Okay, this changes the Bengals,

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Speaker 9: even before we saw how the game went. First half

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Speaker 9: shook the rust off. I think he was the first

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Speaker 9: one to even say that. But second half, it's like,

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Speaker 9: my goodness, you talk about a guy completely changing the mood,

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Speaker 9: changing the tone around a team, and for us selfishly

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Speaker 9: going into this game, you know, we got the assignment

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Speaker 9: the week before that, crossing our fingers that he looked

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Speaker 9: good in his return, and he did obviously, and we

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Speaker 9: are extra fired up after seeing it.

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Speaker 1: So, Joe, it's the first time this year that you

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Speaker 1: and Greg Olsen will call a Bengals game. What about Cincinnati?

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Speaker 1: Are you eager to see whether it's an individual or

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Speaker 1: something about the team in general?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's just a continuation of Burrow, And

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Speaker 9: you know, I know the playoff hopes are baint and

518
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Speaker 9: they got to be perfect and they got to get

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Speaker 9: some help. But if there's anybody that injects enough hope

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Speaker 9: to further that storyline, it is Burrow and going there

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Speaker 9: and facing Josh Allen. That being head to head, it's

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Speaker 9: hard to beat that in terms of big stars going

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Speaker 9: head to head on an NFL Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals defense has had its ups and downs this year.

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Speaker 1: We acknowledge that, but they've been pretty good the last

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Speaker 1: few weeks. They've given up seventeen point six points over

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Speaker 1: their last three games, got five takeaways in the win

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Speaker 1: over Baltimore on Thanksgiving Night? What must this defense do

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Speaker 1: to have success against Buffalo.

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Speaker 9: Normally, Dan, you'd go, you'd say, okay, yeah, they've been

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Speaker 9: better lately, but let's see what happens when they go

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Speaker 9: in and face Josh Allen and the Bills. But Bills

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Speaker 9: offense has not been the same. They're running the ball

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Speaker 9: really well, ran all over the Steelers, but the passing

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Speaker 9: game just has not been there at all. You know,

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Speaker 9: top running game in the NFL, but the passing game

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Speaker 9: recent years, Josh Allen has been able, even though they

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Speaker 9: haven't had a number one target necessarily has been able

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Speaker 9: to overcome that paper over it. It's just not quite

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Speaker 9: been the same this year. So in years past, you'd say, hey,

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Speaker 9: the Bills, if they could just stop the right teams,

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Speaker 9: they're going to break through. Now the Bills are asking

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Speaker 9: the question can they find offense? So to your question

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Speaker 9: about that Bengals defense, I think it's a chance for

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Speaker 9: them to continue the momentum we saw them build against

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Speaker 9: obviously slouch in Baltimore, what they did against Lamar in

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Speaker 9: that group.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me follow up on that. Because the Bills

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Speaker 1: are eight and four. If the season ended today, they

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Speaker 1: would be a playoff team, but they're not quite as

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Speaker 1: dominant as they've been. Josh Allen got sacked eight times

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. What do you think are

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Speaker 1: the Bills' biggest issues on the overall team?

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Speaker 9: I look at the offense in the passing game. They

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Speaker 9: just haven't been able to throw the ball down field,

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Speaker 9: and normally that's a huge strength of Josh Allen's. There's

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Speaker 9: just not much around him in terms of targets. Part

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Speaker 9: of that's been injuries, but massive disappointments. Josh Palmer coming

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Speaker 9: over in his first season of a new contract, injured

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Speaker 9: and not very good when he has been on the field.

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Speaker 9: Keon Coleman, who they drafted last year hope would turn

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Speaker 9: into a big play threat. He was a healthy scratch

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Speaker 9: for a couple of games for off the field stuff,

564
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Speaker 9: showed up late to meetings, and when he's been in

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Speaker 9: the field he's been a disappointment. So these guys that

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Speaker 9: are counting on at receiver have either been injured or disappointing.

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Speaker 9: Dalton kincaid his favorite time end has been hurt the

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Speaker 9: last few weeks. So that passing game, which is it's

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Speaker 9: crazy to think about Josh Allen the Bills passing game.

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Speaker 9: They have issues with that, but that right now, for me,

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Speaker 9: is the biggest question.

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Speaker 1: It's been a few years, but Joe Burrow is two

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Speaker 1: and oh against the Buffalo Bills. He's two and oh

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Speaker 1: head to head against Josh Allen. One of those two

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Speaker 1: wins was a playoff victory in Buffalo on a snowy day,

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Speaker 1: which very few teams have been able to pull off

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Speaker 1: against the Bills. Do you think it's a motivating factor

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Speaker 1: for Buffalo this week? The Joe Burrow and the Bengals

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Speaker 1: have that history against Josh Allen and the Bills.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure that it'll be on their minds. But a

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Speaker 9: lot like the Bengals, the Bills are sitting there with

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Speaker 9: not much room for air, So I think they have

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Speaker 9: plenty of motivations just when it comes to the playoff picture,

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Speaker 9: without needing any extra stimulation from who they're facing. They

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Speaker 9: you know, they've won five consecutive division titles. They're two

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Speaker 9: and a half games behind the Patriots, so they've got

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Speaker 9: to be perfect when it comes to the division. They've

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Speaker 9: got to get a little help. Patriots got to lose

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Speaker 9: an extra game, so.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of similar.

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Speaker 9: Not as desperate as the Bengals are, but there's plenty

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Speaker 9: of motivation just simply looking at the standings without needing

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Speaker 9: to look across and see the guy that's heard him before.

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Speaker 1: The AFC North is usually one of the NFL's top

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Speaker 1: divisions at the moment, this year, nobody's over five hundred,

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Speaker 1: So the Bengals are technically still alive. What do you

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Speaker 1: think of the division? Do you think that there's an

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Speaker 1: obvious favorite, and in your mind, do the Bengals still

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Speaker 1: have a fighting chance?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: This kind of brings full circle our conversation here. I

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Speaker 9: think when you combine Joe Burrow's return with that division,

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Speaker 9: who the heck wants it? Nobody has taken command of it.

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Speaker 9: If there's ever a chance for a team that's sitting

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Speaker 9: in the position that the Bengals are, yeah, I think

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Speaker 9: you know, if you get a mathematical chance and then

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Speaker 9: you factor in those two things, sure, and I know

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Speaker 9: we're going to ride that. That adds meaning to our

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Speaker 9: broadcast and adds meaning to a game that's already going

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Speaker 9: to be exciting just because of the stars.

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Speaker 1: You broadcast Dodgers games during the summer you've got bright

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Speaker 1: sunshine behind you in California. Are you prepared for wintry

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Speaker 1: conditions this Sunday in Orchard Park, New York.

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Speaker 8: No, I am so soft.

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Speaker 9: Dan grew up in Michigan, and after about a week

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Speaker 9: of living out here, I was as soft as they come.

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Speaker 9: So we've had some good training in the last couple

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Speaker 9: of weeks. We're in Green Bay two weeks ago. We

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Speaker 9: were in Seattle last week where it was only low forties.

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Speaker 9: This is another level of cold, though, So now I'm

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Speaker 9: gonna have about fourteen layers on.

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Speaker 8: I got no pride, I don't care.

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Speaker 9: I don't like being cold and distracted, so I'll be

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Speaker 9: so bundled up. I won't even bring a tie. That

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Speaker 9: would be our little secret because nobody's gonna know. I'm

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Speaker 9: gonna have a scarf, a couple stars, giant coat.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I'll be warm.

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Speaker 1: The George Gastanza puffy jacket. I'm sure that will look good.

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Speaker 1: That will look good. I mentioned off the top, Joe

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Speaker 1: that you had the opportunity to call a historically good

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Speaker 1: world series this year and you match them, which I

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Speaker 1: think is about the ultimate compliment that one broadcaster can

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Speaker 1: pay to another. What was that moment like for you?

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Speaker 1: Are those seven games like for you because it's the

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Speaker 1: type of thing that every broadcaster dreams of doing.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it was, to be honest with you, I'll see

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Speaker 9: that the first six games, it was incredible time in

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Speaker 9: my life. I felt really good about the broadcast. We

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Speaker 9: were having Game six as good as I've ever felt.

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Speaker 9: Game seven is kind of this blur that I don't

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Speaker 9: really know how to feel about. So much happened there

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Speaker 9: in the final few winnings of that game, right down

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Speaker 9: to know, we're putting things in perspective about about Toronto

644
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Speaker 9: ending their World series drought, and then bang, Miguel Rojas happens,

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Speaker 9: and a million other things happened in the hour that

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Speaker 9: follows that. So it went from six games of this

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Speaker 9: is great and I feel like we're on it, to

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Speaker 9: what the heck just happened and we were kind of

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Speaker 9: holding on for dear life. I'm sure you've had games

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Speaker 9: like that too in your career where you're like, I

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Speaker 9: don't know what just happened.

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Speaker 8: I don't know what I said. I hope that I said.

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Speaker 9: Something that was ascertainable and that made sense and that

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Speaker 9: helped match the moment but man, it was kind of

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Speaker 9: kind of two series within one the first six games

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Speaker 9: and then that seventh game seems to stand alone in

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Speaker 9: my mind.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can promise you that you nailed it. You

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Speaker 1: added to my enjoyment of the World Series. Congratulations on that.

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Speaker 1: Look forward to hearing your call on Sunday in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your time.

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Speaker 8: Thanks Stan, It'll be good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Finally, it's time for this week's Know the Faux segment.

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Speaker 1: The radio analyst for the Buffalo Bills played for the

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Speaker 1: team for nine years, but he's a Cincinnati guy through

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Speaker 1: and through, having graduated from Elder High School. It's former

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl center Eric Wood who talked about the Bills

668
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Speaker 1: up and down season when he joined Dave Lapham and

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Speaker 1: me on the Bengals Game Plan Show.

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Speaker 2: He started off four to zero and the expectations were

671
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: high heading in and it was going to be a

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen MB repeat. It's a Super Bowl favorites heading

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Speaker 2: into the season, and it's been a roller coaster rode.

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Speaker 2: The biggest issues that they've faced defensively has been the

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Speaker 2: run defense. It played well that we could go against

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, but it's been an up and down season.

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Speaker 2: As far as defending the run, that's been the biggest

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Speaker 2: issue with the defense, and a big issue there is

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Speaker 2: just simply tackling.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I give them somewhat of a pass for some of

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Speaker 2: their struggles based upon the amount of injuries on the

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Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, but the run defense has

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Speaker 2: struggled very bad at times this year. And then offensively,

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Speaker 2: turnovers is probably our biggest issue. The passing game hasn't

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Speaker 2: come alive like maybe you'd hoped, But there's guys in

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Speaker 2: the receiving corps that have been injured throughout the season,

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Speaker 2: and they've leaned so heavily into the run game that

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Speaker 2: at times they haven't needed to get the pass game going.

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Speaker 2: But the common denominator and all four of their losses

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Speaker 2: have been three turnovers by the offense. And it's really

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Speaker 2: hurt us.

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Speaker 5: Wow, three turnovers in every single loss. That's that's that's

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Speaker 5: pretty amazing. That's a that's something new, and.

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Speaker 2: Dave, you know this like that that third turnover at

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Speaker 2: times has come at the end of a game where

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Speaker 2: you know you have to press because you're coming back.

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Speaker 2: So not all turnovers are created equal, but that has

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Speaker 2: been the theme in all of their losses this year.

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Speaker 5: So it's it's been an up and down season obviously

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Speaker 5: for for a Buffalo, the season start off gangbusters and

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Speaker 5: then have had some difficulties. Is it that been the

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Speaker 5: case for Josh Allen as well? Has the season basically

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Speaker 5: gone as Josh Allen has played?

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Speaker 2: I would say it's it's more of a team effort.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're trying to rely less and less on

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Speaker 2: Josh doing it all himself. Now this is December football.

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Speaker 2: If need be, they'll dial up the red zone runs

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Speaker 2: with him, and there's gonna be times where you're gonna

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Speaker 2: see the old Josh Allen improv improvational improvisational skills. There

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Speaker 2: you go, there's education coming out, but you'll see him

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Speaker 2: improvise out on the field and do some of the

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Speaker 2: heroics that we've seen over time. But you know this

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Speaker 2: is you know, Sean mcdermoy came from Carolina, so did

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Speaker 2: Brandon bean our GM. They saw how Cam Newton deteriorated

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Speaker 2: towards the end based upon the amount of hits that

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Speaker 2: he took, and so it's been a concerted effort over

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Speaker 2: these last few years to get him to take less

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Speaker 2: and less hits and so Yeah, I think there's been

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Speaker 2: games where Josh hasn't played his best and the turnovers

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Speaker 2: have been his fault. And then there's other times where

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Speaker 2: you know, it's either been the run defense or you

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Speaker 2: have guys not him, turning the football over with fumbles,

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Speaker 2: and so you know, ultimately Josh is the heart and

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Speaker 2: soul of the team and it's going to, you know,

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Speaker 2: fall on his shoulders. But in those four losses, it

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Speaker 2: hasn't all been on him.

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Speaker 1: Bill's radio analyst and former Pro Bowl center Eric Wood

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Speaker 1: is our guest. The Bills have had their share of

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Speaker 1: injuries there. Offensive tackles did not play last week against Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: They still ran the ball for nearly two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty yards ere there excellent tight end Dalton Kincaid has

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Speaker 1: been out for a few weeks with a tender hamstring.

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Speaker 1: Who is it most important for Buffalo to get back?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if Dalton Kinkaid can come back, that

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00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: would be huge. Our passing numbers are dramatically better when

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Speaker 2: he's been on the field this season. I believe Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen's quarterback rating goes up about fifteen with him on

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Speaker 2: the field, which seems extreme for a tight end, but

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Speaker 2: we drafted him in the first round out of Utah

741
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Speaker 2: three years ago, three seasons ago. Now to be a receiver.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's essentially a bigger slot receiver for us

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Speaker 2: out there and maybe our best pure separator that we

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00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: bring on the field each week. And so if he's

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Speaker 2: able to play against the Vengels, I'd say that would

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Speaker 2: be probably the one that I would take. Now, if

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00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: Hendrickson was going to play, I might say one of

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Speaker 2: the two tackles are spect Deon Dawkins are left tackle.

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Speaker 2: But with him likely ruled out, which is a very

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Speaker 2: interesting situation. I followed along with it. But with him

751
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: ruled out, a gimme kincaid if we can get one

752
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 2: of them back.

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Speaker 5: So, looking at the Buffalo Bills offensive line, you played

754
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Speaker 5: that position so well, Pro Bowl player, nine year veteran player,

755
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 5: almost played a decade. What the offensive line has been

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Speaker 5: inconsistent as well? With their with their play, with their

757
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 5: level of play. What is the biggest reason for it?

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Speaker 5: Do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've had a good year. They got

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Speaker 2: exploited against the Houston Texans on Thursday night. Football Spencer

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Speaker 2: Brown was playing with the herd shoulder and Dion Dawkins

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Speaker 2: got got a concussion.

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Speaker 8: In the game.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say that he got examined on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: They put him back in obviously wasn't playing like himself,

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Speaker 2: and then he was out the Pittsburghers game because of

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00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: the concussion suffered in that game. We also used a

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Speaker 2: lot of five man protections in that game and throughout

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Speaker 2: the season. Joe Brady, our offensive coordinator, has a lot

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Speaker 2: of confidence in this offensive line to carry the unit,

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Speaker 2: to run the football behind them consistently, and then we

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Speaker 2: have not used a lot of chips or running back

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Speaker 2: help in the passing game because he's got a lot

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Speaker 2: of faith in them. That came to a head on

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Speaker 2: against the Texans when we gave up eight sacks. And

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Speaker 2: that's where I said, you know that I wouldn't put

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Speaker 2: the entire blame of the Texans game on Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: being that he was under dress most of the game.

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Speaker 2: And so I feel like this unit has performed exceptionally

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Speaker 2: well throughout the season, minus I would say that Texans game.

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Speaker 5: So what do you think Eric is the big key

782
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Speaker 5: to the to the game? I mean, Buffalo needs to win,

783
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 5: the Bengals need to win it's a musk game for

784
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 5: both football teams. What do you think is the is

785
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Speaker 5: the biggest key for the Buffalo Bills to sustain their

786
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 5: season and to give them victory in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say can painting Joe Burrow and especially

788
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. And that doesn't mean you shut those guys

789
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Speaker 2: completely down. They're too good of a connection to completely

790
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: shut them down. But Jamar Chase got the most yards

791
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Speaker 2: after catch in the NFL when he does catch the football,

792
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Speaker 2: be able to tackle him limit those yards after the catch.

793
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: And then Chase Brown, whether it's you know, receiving or rushing,

794
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: he's what is he got over one hundred yards from

795
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Speaker 2: scrimmage the last three games. Sorry sorry, Yeah, six in

796
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Speaker 2: a row. Extremely impressive. You got to be able to

797
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Speaker 2: tackle him as well. He's he's low to the ground,

798
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: he's he's a great football player. And then on the

799
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Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, I think this Bills team

800
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 2: should be able to establish the run against the Bengals,

801
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: and then it's the play action off of that, and

802
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: can you connect down the field to make them pay

803
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: if they're going to bring their safeties down And that's

804
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: been a lot of the Bills recipe for success this year. Offensively,

805
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: it's established the run and then takes your take your

806
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: shots off of those plays.

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Speaker 1: How's the new stadium looking, going up right next to

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Speaker 1: high Mark?

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Speaker 2: It's it's actually incredible. I got to do a tour

810
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Speaker 2: of it about two weeks ago. With the two main

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Speaker 2: architects and the attention to detail, and you know, the

812
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Speaker 2: amenities that you're going to now have in the new

813
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Speaker 2: high Mark Stadium is going to be really special Old

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Speaker 2: high Mark Stadium these last three games, if we don't

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Speaker 2: host a home playoff game, if these are the last three,

816
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Speaker 2: I'm going to cherish them. So much history there and

817
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: I love that building. And uh, you guys know we

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Speaker 2: get we get one of the better radio setups in

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Speaker 2: the league. As far as size of the booth and

820
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Speaker 2: our location.

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Speaker 4: Yah'll be terrible.

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Speaker 8: It won't be terrible.

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Speaker 2: We'll just feel a little bit higher up in the

824
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Speaker 2: new stadium. They still gave us some respect in that regard.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I appreciate the nostalgia of old high

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Speaker 2: Mark Stadium. And I've never gone to a game truly

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Speaker 2: as a spectator, but I've heard some of the amenities

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Speaker 2: are pretty rough over there.

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Speaker 1: The new stadium features a one point seven billion dollar

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Speaker 1: price tag, and despite Buffalo's notoriously bad weather, will not

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Speaker 1: have a roof. It will feature a large canopy covering

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Speaker 1: about two thirds of the seats designed to protect fans

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Speaker 1: from the elements, but the Bills wanted to keep the

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Speaker 1: field exposed to the weather, which fits the traditional Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Wayne box Miller for the Bengals pep Rally show on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Friday from two thirty to five thirty, and their scheduled

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Speaker 1: guest in the final hour will be rookie linebacker Barrett Carter.

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