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Speaker 2: In fairness, like what was going on at the time

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Speaker 2: of this open respiptis we?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean I like to think I would not point

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Speaker 3: In sult of them a little bitter. I know, I

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Speaker 2: The first sea. I was fine with it. Go for points.

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Speaker 1: They didn't.

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Speaker 3: They were throwing the ball no, you know, as.

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Speaker 4: I just think like I would just like to man's

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Speaker 3: Someone intentionally hit us with their car on the way

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Speaker 3: into the game last night. Someone intentionally hit us, knocked

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Speaker 3: the whole front bumper of my brother's car, pulled up

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Speaker 2: You're kidding, assault brother. Maybe he recognized you and heard

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillete Stadium. It's our official Turn the Page day

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Speaker 2: where we go from reviewing last Sunday's game to talking

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Speaker 2: about this upcoming game with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Another

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Speaker 2: good test I think for the team. Buccaneers, are you know,

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Speaker 2: one of the better teams in the league. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: say the best top echelon, but they're a good competitive team,

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Speaker 2: winning record, some good matchups that should challenge the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: So I think a good opportunity, particularly for the defense

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Speaker 2: in this game. And we'll talk about that. We'll have

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Speaker 2: Mike Rabel with his live press conference. I think that's

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Speaker 2: at twelve fifty five and one o'clock. One of five minutes.

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Speaker 2: You need that five minutes? Yeah, you never military time here,

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Speaker 2: something going on schedule. So what are they doing now?

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Speaker 3: What acclimating all the acquisitions they make?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Paully, are you are you one of the I am?

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Speaker 2: Are you one of the Madden Fantasy you know? Definitely

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Speaker 2: not want your GM Fantasy boys that are upset about

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Speaker 2: no moves yesterday.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean I was a little surprised. I said

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Speaker 3: make a move, but I wasn't expecting anything really big.

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Speaker 3: I'm not overly surprised that they didn't do anything big.

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Speaker 2: Some I think they they probably tried in a couple

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Speaker 2: of instances. I think that's probably here's the thing. Teams

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Speaker 4: Certainly not the Jets, like the Jets. I think that's

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Speaker 4: the thing. And I I saw the Titan. I said

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Speaker 4: be that it was a division rival that made all

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Speaker 4: Like even if the Patriots would have paid the price,

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Speaker 2: Gonna do it. We'll talk about that. It's Evan, it's Paul,

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Speaker 2: it's me, it's Deuce, it's Alex and the Booth and

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Speaker 3: I'm having a hard time just completely embracing everything they

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Speaker 4: So that's why I give them some credit for what

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Speaker 4: So now they have this whole stockpile of picks to

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Speaker 4: everybody blames the quarterback. But you know, Aaron Rodgers gets

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Speaker 2: I think I think he's doing okay. As much as

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Speaker 4: I just think at some point, if you're the Jets,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for the winners for this season of

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Speaker 3: I don't think they care any less than today than

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Speaker 2: That I think that's prob. They're one and seven. Why

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Speaker 3: I think Evan just hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 3: They have these good players and they weren't winning any games.

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Speaker 5: Part of it to me is the culture too, and

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Speaker 5: I think that's part of the move as well.

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Speaker 5: Daniel Jones looked good right now. You know, it wasn't

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Speaker 6: So I think for me, it's really about twenty tars.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that Daniel Jones is the guy.

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Speaker 5: But I mean give the Colts credit for how they've

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Speaker 2: If you're the Jets, are you thinking draft with kind

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Speaker 6: Everything should be on the table right and they're.

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Speaker 4: Trading for a veteran quarterback because I don't think they're

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Speaker 4: not Joe Burrow. We did mention Trevor Lawrence like if

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Speaker 3: Rock Purty Rock Party and Trevor Lawrence. I could see

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Speaker 2: But I shouldn't say anything because the Patriots haven't had

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Speaker 3: But those kinds of things wouldn't cost you this kind

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Speaker 2: Oh not everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like who is not casting you?

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Speaker 2: It would cost you two first round picks.

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Speaker 3: And I wouldn't make the trade for two dumb too.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what two first round picks for Tua.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what Miami would want.

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Speaker 3: And he's going to stay on Miami.

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna You're not. They're not going to trade

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Speaker 4: No, no, but you have all this extra capital that

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Speaker 4: if you do have to trade any you know, one

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Speaker 2: No, they can afford it, right absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I was immediately thinking when you

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Speaker 3: having a great year this year, he had all those

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Speaker 3: back problems heading in. I still think that Sean McVay

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Speaker 4: Looks like you honestly like it kind of looks.

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Speaker 2: He's played so well though this might be his best year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he you know, let's face it, he's a

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Speaker 3: like we'll trade you a first round pick for you know,

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Speaker 4: That's why, like I feel like, and I said this,

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing is Aaron Glenn. I was

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Speaker 4: But if you're if you're the Jets, like I feel

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Speaker 4: Because we did that with Rogers and that didn't.

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Speaker 3: Work's why you gotta be you have good ones.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna mark and purty good.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to trade for like a twenty eight year

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Speaker 4: of those two things. We'll see, all right.

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Speaker 2: So that's the trade thing. And again, you know, I

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Speaker 5: Well, you already said they were in on Phillips. You

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Speaker 2: They were, they were. There was a guy that got

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Speaker 3: it's it shouldn't be personal. But I mean I understand

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Speaker 3: are not looking to acquire Sauce Gardner. Forget about the compensation.

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Speaker 3: I Belichick never would have done that. I heard a

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Speaker 2: People say, oh, I wouldn't give a third round pick

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Speaker 4: Well, nobody else think I would.

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Speaker 3: I'm not telling you I would have. I wouldn't have.

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Speaker 4: If somebody offered the Jets a third round pick for

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Speaker 3: You know, that's what that's what they wanted. Nobody offered it.

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Speaker 4: Kansas City four, It sounds like that's as high as

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Speaker 2: I would love to know if we did offer at

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Speaker 2: it's kind of weird that they wouldn't take that if

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Speaker 2: you know, listen, they wouldn't be the only team that

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Speaker 4: He's definitely different with quarterback, like like trading barsting of trading.

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Speaker 2: I mean famously traded Bledsoe to the Bills.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but on his last leg at that point he

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Speaker 3: Year he played five more years. Like it's like the

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Speaker 3: best deal was a first round pick. Belichick wisely said,

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Speaker 3: he's not going to be better than the guy. I

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Speaker 3: I'm taking the best deal the teams with the what

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Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of him coming back to haunt me.

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Speaker 3: That was smart business. Now, I wish he kept doing

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Speaker 3: punishing that guy because you didn't take my contract, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody else was given a first round pick.

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Speaker 2: For bled Cell, right, I don't know. I never didn't

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Speaker 3: I think that was a good trade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so so interesting stuff yesterday. It was a blockbuster move,

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Speaker 3: It was, But I mean two huge ones for the

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Speaker 5: It highlights the Patriots depth that they're going to have

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Speaker 5: to go through the last two months of this season

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Speaker 5: hoping that you know, Harold Landry, Caleb Chase, we all

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Speaker 5: we got, we all, we got, we all we Need's right,

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Speaker 5: We'll see if it's all we need. But I think

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Speaker 5: I thought the directions we're pointing to, you just need

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Speaker 5: And you know, there might be a point this season

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Speaker 5: where you're saying, Elijah Ponder, it's go time at you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, I wonder if they're thinking that way. You know,

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Speaker 3: if they're like, you know, happens we rolled with Swinton

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Speaker 4: I commend them for it, because give them for what exactly,

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Speaker 3: Have the second most cap space in football.

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Speaker 4: Start, you know, going all in on a season where

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Speaker 4: They're probably still an off season away from having really

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Speaker 4: And if you start trading away draft picks and stuff

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Speaker 2: You mentioned rentals, but there was also a path to

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Speaker 4: That yeah, it was Jalen Phillips, Rashid Shahid.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that, you know, I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: Quinn Williams isn't all right, But we just went over

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Speaker 4: I think I mean, is there a chance that you

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done that later, Henderson, I mean like

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Speaker 2: No, he didn't get traded, but like I don't know

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Speaker 2: not thinking he's a rental. You've got a handshake deal

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Speaker 4: Hear you, but he's thirty one. Like I just I

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Speaker 2: Let's say the Jets were willing to give us Prieste

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Speaker 7: Do I?

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Speaker 4: What's for Andre Stevenson's toe is does he have a

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 4: What's what's the situation?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to me?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it matters. Yeah, you know Andre is

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Speaker 2: But you still only really have two front line running

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Speaker 4: But Brice Hall is not coming here as injury insurance.

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Speaker 4: He's coming here to replace Remandreu. So like now Rimandre

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Speaker 2: Well, you say riding the bench you wrote you know,

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Speaker 4: But like Henderson's playing a third down back role like

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Speaker 4: significantly less if that's what you're doing. So like again,

439
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Speaker 4: if he's hurt and he's out for an extended period

440
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Speaker 4: of time and that changes his thing, do you think

441
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Speaker 4: he's an upgrade Brice Hall, He's definitely more dynamic.

442
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Speaker 2: Do you think he's an upgrade?

443
00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 4: He's different.

444
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 2: No, Wow, okay, I do I disagree, But yeah, like.

445
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 4: An upgrade, like it's a running back, Like it's that's

446
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,679
Speaker 4: why I'm not like, you know, it's not Christian McCaffrey. Like,

447
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 4: I think he's an upgrade in the sense that he's

448
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 4: a more explosive player than Remandre Uh, definitely more explosive

449
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 4: pass catcher. And you know, make bigger plays happen with

450
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 4: the ball in his hands. But is it a you know,

451
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 4: a needle movie, Like is there you trading proof?

452
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 7: Yea.

453
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Speaker 2: I look at you know, Bijon, like, I know this

454
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,199
Speaker 2: could never happen. But if there was a draft and

455
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Speaker 2: there was a twenty four year old Breis Hall who

456
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Speaker 2: I knew about how what he could do in the NFL,

457
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Speaker 2: I would take him for a third round pick. Yeah,

458
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 2: I would too.

459
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 4: Nobody else would, Like it's not just the Patriots, like

460
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 4: no one else offered them a third round pick. They're

461
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 4: still a Jet Like I just I think that again,

462
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 4: like they they've it's lined up nicely for them this season,

463
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 4: and Drake May's play has led into a lot of that.

464
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 4: But Drake May broke out. The schedule is easy, like

465
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 4: they've taken advantage of all of those things. And I mean,

466
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 4: I don't mean to like look ahead, but have you

467
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 4: looked at their schedule next year?

468
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Speaker 6: That's just what I was pulling up right now.

469
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Speaker 4: Their schedule next year is going to be the total

470
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Speaker 4: opposite of this year. They have like a murderer's row

471
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Speaker 4: of road games next year.

472
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Speaker 5: Yep, So like Lions, Chiefs, Chargers, I mean Bills. Obviously,

473
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Speaker 5: we'll see what AFC, NFC, AFC South and NFC West.

474
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Speaker 5: But you know, Packers here, Broncos here, Vikings here, AFC North,

475
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Speaker 5: team here.

476
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Speaker 2: It's a it's a tough schedule, it's going to be

477
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Speaker 2: I mean.

478
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Speaker 3: It's all the more reason why I would have been

479
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 3: more aggressive. But I want I.

480
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Speaker 4: Want them to be aggressive in the off season, like

481
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Speaker 4: because I want them to keep building talent on the roster.

482
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Speaker 3: Now, if that happens, then outsid'd rather you be aggressive

483
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 3: in the off season than do something at the trade deadline.

484
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Speaker 3: I would agree with you.

485
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Speaker 4: Because there's more that will happen. There's more of a

486
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 4: pool in the off season of guys available, all the

487
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 4: cre agents and all that kind of stuff. So if

488
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Speaker 4: you go out.

489
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Speaker 3: And and it only costs you money instead of draft picks,

490
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 3: and if I would totally rather do it that.

491
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Speaker 4: Way, shoot your gun in the in the trade deadline

492
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 4: because you're just going all in on this season.

493
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Speaker 3: I just I just think that the way this has been,

494
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Speaker 3: like I said at the very beginning, I'm not disappointed

495
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Speaker 3: necessarily that they didn't do anything. And I'm not here

496
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 3: to tell you like they dropped the ball I'm not

497
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Speaker 3: doing that because I don't think they dropped the ball.

498
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Speaker 3: I don't think there was a lot of opportunity for

499
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Speaker 3: them to do anything of any significance. I'm a little

500
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Speaker 3: surprised they didn't add a depth piece or two. That's

501
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Speaker 3: it me too. But the way it's being portrayed is

502
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 3: they had two choices, either forfeit the future for the

503
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Speaker 3: gratification now, or stick to the plan. And I just

504
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 3: don't think trading a Day three pick for an edge

505
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: rush depth piece is forfeiting the future, or trading you know,

506
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 3: for Jerome Ford or Tony Pollard or whoever. If Breese

507
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 3: Hall was too expensive, one of those other backs you know,

508
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 3: Jerome Ford may not. I don't think that would have

509
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: forfeited the future. I think you still stick to your

510
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: plan to do Evans thing, which I agree with Evan

511
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: ninety five percent of what he said. I agree with

512
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 3: you don't want to do anything to disrupt I wouldn't

513
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Speaker 3: even think of giving a first round pick for someone

514
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 3: who may or may not be here next year. That

515
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense to me. I wouldn't do that.

516
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: But I have four to six round picks.

517
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: I can't get something for them some of those.

518
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the question there and because I agree

519
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 4: with you there's a happy medium here of like not

520
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 4: mortgaging the future but also investing in this team. I

521
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 4: think the question is, is you know we can just

522
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 4: use Jamal Jones for an example, is Jamont Jones a

523
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,239
Speaker 4: much better player than Anthony Jennings, Because Anthony Jennings right

524
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 4: now is your third guy. So like Jamalt Jones is

525
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 4: going to come in and he's going to be your

526
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 4: third pass rusher. He's a better pass rusher than Anthony Jennings,

527
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 4: but Anthony jen is probably a better run defender. And like,

528
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 4: so do you think is it that much of an upgrade?

529
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 4: And I think that one of the things that they

530
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 4: look that with this deadline was the vibes in this

531
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 4: locker room are immaculate at the moment.

532
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

533
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 3: So if you do think that was a factor, if

534
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: you were only going to make a marginal upgrade, but

535
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: it's going to upset the hierarchy of the depth chart

536
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: in a specific room.

537
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 4: For example, like if you got in trade for Rashid Shaheed,

538
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 4: now Pop Douglas is going to have It's the same role.

539
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 4: So Pop Douglas is now out of a job. And

540
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 4: we've all talked about how great that wide receiver room

541
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 4: has been and how much they've turned it around on

542
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 4: and off the field, And now you go ahead and

543
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 4: you start shaking things up. Is it worth it in

544
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: the short term for maybe a guy that's a little

545
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 4: bit better than Anfridy Jennings or someone that's a little

546
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 4: bit better than Terrell Jennings that running back, or you know,

547
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. I think that was a

548
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 4: big part of it too.

549
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear your point, Paul, for sure. I'd almost

550
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 5: you know, in terms of like trying to make a

551
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 5: little bit of a run. And I kind of said

552
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Speaker 5: this a little bit yesterday about protecting Drake, but I

553
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 5: think it's much about is there a spot where a

554
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 5: key injury could cause this season to devolve a little

555
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 5: bit and lose some of the energy that you have

556
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 5: and to me, protecting against that where a key injury

557
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 5: maybe a defensive end running back, Like it's not necessarily

558
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 5: a guy like you know, Tony Pollard who's going to

559
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 5: put you over the edge and now we can go

560
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 5: to Kansas City and win or whatever it might be

561
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 5: in the playoffs.

562
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 2: But it's more about totally.

563
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 5: If you know, if Ramandre is a long term situation,

564
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,239
Speaker 5: is the run game going to totally devolve in that

565
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 5: Drake may season is now going to fall apart because

566
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 5: teams are just our teeing off on him. And now

567
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 5: we end this season feeling like Drake got the crap

568
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 5: beat out of him. We didn't have a running game,

569
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 5: you know, like that's what I want to avoid, but

570
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 5: not mortgaging the future, but protecting protecting the present.

571
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: And I like Evans's point, and I do think that

572
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: that was part of a big part of their rationale

573
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: going in, was they wanted to make sure that they

574
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: didn't do anything that was going to, you know, significatory

575
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: upset what's going on right now, because I think a

576
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: big part of their success is this is like what

577
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: is like the hole is greater than some of the parts.

578
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: Is that the cliche in this is what I think,

579
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: that's what this is.

580
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: If you just go a.

581
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 3: Player for player, you know, it's okay, yeah, but they're

582
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: playing much better than that. And I think part of

583
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: the reason for that is all of the celebration, all

584
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: of the culture, all of the buy in that you see.

585
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: The whole is greater than the some of the parts

586
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: that what you're trying to.

587
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: Say, that's what I said, That what I said, and

588
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: try to say it.

589
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 4: And if you go and you go start trading for

590
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 4: marginal up trade yeah, and you know, and it's not

591
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 4: we're not talking about trading for sauce Gardner talking about trading.

592
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: I just think those kinds of things.

593
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: Don't like if that Draymond And I don't know a

594
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: lot about Draymond Jones, to be honest with you, if

595
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: he's a little bit better than Anthony Jennings, I don't

596
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 3: think that upsets the apple car. You already tried to

597
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 3: basically give away Anthony Jennings. I don't think that's an

598
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: apple cart disrupting move. Rahii Rashid Harry Rashid Shahed could

599
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: be an example of what Evan's talking about, Like he

600
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: might knock somebody out of a role who's been playing

601
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: a lot and has embraced that role. That could be

602
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: something that cause you. Now, I'm not telling you that

603
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 3: would I wouldn't do it if I thought that that

604
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: made sense and that I thought that made me better.

605
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: But I do think Rabel Stretch, Elliott Wolf, Ryan Cowd

606
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 3: and I think these are these were factors I think

607
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: in some of these potential moves.

608
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, like Anthony and Jennings might not like it would

609
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 4: more be like they had traded for Jalen Phillips and

610
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 4: now Chase On is out of a.

611
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: Starting cares that's different.

612
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: And Chason's been playing really well for them for like

613
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 4: about a month now. Yeah, and now all of a sudden,

614
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: you know you're you're a situational pass rusher on third

615
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 4: down only because we just traded a third round pick

616
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 4: for Jalen Phillips. Like that was probably a better example

617
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 4: than than Jennings and depth pieces and stuff like that.

618
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 4: But I I mean, we're in the locker room moth.

619
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 7: Like.

620
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: The vibes in the locker room are just it's a

621
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 4: total one to eighty from what it's been here the

622
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: last two years. And I give that all that credit

623
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: to Rabel me too. And so he has completely changed

624
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 4: the energy, Like you can just see it in all

625
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: the content that we put out, you know after games

626
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. The way that these players are

627
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 4: are rallying like around him, and you know it's a

628
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: big thing.

629
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: But that I think that element has been more important

630
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: and more impressive than any x's and o's thing that

631
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: the coaching staff is done. And I'm not telling you

632
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 3: the coaching staff hasn't done a good job. I'm just

633
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: saying the buy in that they immediately got from from

634
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: that group, and I think they had some buy in

635
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 3: from gered MEO last year initially, and then they didn't win.

636
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: To you a point, right, so you lose the buy in.

637
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: You know, you say you're right, like you established this

638
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 3: and then you immediately show them, oh wait, it's working right,

639
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: we are winning process.

640
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: But even at one and two, like after the Steelers game,

641
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: like go to Miami, you could tell and it was

642
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 4: just kind of like, well, we turned the ball over

643
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: five times, and if we don't turn the ball over

644
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: five times, we would have won this game and blow up.

645
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's fine. This is a propose of nothing,

646
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: as they say Matt Smith likes, I say, I propose

647
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: of nothing. The Colts went to Pittsburgh and turned it

648
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: over six times, and this season's over now. It was

649
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: the defining moment to turn the Patriots season around, like, oh,

650
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 3: they were actually better than Pittsburgh. They should have won

651
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: the game. They beat themselves. But you know, the Colt

652
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: they're done now. I don't know what they're doing with

653
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: the sauce guards they had.

654
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: To get saw.

655
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody was killing them for that sauce guard

656
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't know.

657
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Speaker 5: I mean, if it would be kind of funny though,

658
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 5: halls on Daniel Jones to start looking like the Daniel

659
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: Jones that we came to know, and they're like, Oh, well.

660
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: That's what I'm fascinated because that's that's a fear that

661
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: kind of happened with Darnold.

662
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: It took a while to week seventeen to the end.

663
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then at the end there and they kind

664
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Speaker 4: of they're kind of this year as Minnesota and like,

665
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting to see if if Daniel

666
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: Jones considered.

667
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: I want to transition over to Tampa Bay but be

668
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: first public service announcement, A Jay who's the president of

669
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Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay New England Patriots Fan Club uh sends

670
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Speaker 2: in a quick reminder to all listeners out there, especially

671
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Speaker 2: those who will be in Tampa over the weekend, that

672
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: we are hosting the largest Patriots road rally of the

673
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: season this Saturday, November eighth, from five five to seven

674
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Speaker 2: at sunset Rodeo, which is located at three oh two

675
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: South Howard Avenue. We'll have appearances by members of the

676
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: cheerleading team and the Patriots pat Patriot Lawrence Guy. Hopefully

677
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: Fred and Evan will make it out as well. He says,

678
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: we'll have a bunch of autograph items that will be

679
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: raffling off for charity. They're expecting a huge crowd, so

680
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: tell they're telling people to make sure they get there

681
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: early so they don't miss out. So again, that's at

682
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Speaker 2: the Sunset Rodeo, three oh two South Howard Avenue from

683
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Speaker 2: five to seven this Saturday. So it's gonna be a big,

684
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Speaker 2: big rally, So check it out Patriots fans who are

685
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Speaker 2: in Tampa.

686
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like it's gonna be huge. Patriots fans

687
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 5: contingent down there.

688
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Speaker 2: Yeah this week so, I mean it was big in

689
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Speaker 2: Nashville too, but this one's gonna be really really Yeah.

690
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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be interesting because like Titans stink,

691
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: So like taking over an opponent stadium when the team

692
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: is one in six or whatever it was Tennessee was

693
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: is one thing, But taking over an opponent stadium when

694
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: the team is a playoff team that you're going to

695
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 4: would be that'd be pretty cool. I don't know if

696
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: that happens very often when you're go to a six

697
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: and two teams, you know, home game and it's half

698
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: Patriots fan.

699
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 5: Right, we need like some muskets to answer the cannon

700
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 5: shots from.

701
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 4: The You that's going to scare the crap out of me,

702
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: I know, going to be.

703
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Speaker 2: Like, well hopefully don't hear it all of Yeah, you know, Okay,

704
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: So let's talk about the Buccaneers. Yeah, let's start with

705
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: their injuries. I think that's today.

706
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 5: We just got a report that they didn't get a

707
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: lot of guys back. I mean, Chris Godwin is not

708
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 5: out there and Bucky Irving. Those are the two guys

709
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Speaker 5: that we kind.

710
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: Of start with.

711
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Speaker 5: So you know, they got to get healthy. But I

712
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 5: guess Baker Mayfield is top of the list. Then he's

713
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: just a really good player. I mean, I just I'm

714
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 5: so amazed by we talk about when we saw him.

715
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: We saw we have Mary Kay Cabot on when the

716
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 5: Browns were here, and we'd had her on back in

717
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Speaker 5: twenty one, when when Mayfield was here, and I was like,

718
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 5: I mean I saw him that time in person. I

719
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 5: was like this guy's done injured, we find out. Then

720
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Speaker 5: we saw him with Carolina a little bit when he's

721
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 5: like battling Donald here, which again is just so crazy

722
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Speaker 5: to me that.

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Speaker 2: That's just like factor.

724
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Speaker 8: In.

725
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: Mayfield didn't want them to get on the field and

726
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: now they're both like lighting it up.

727
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 6: Crazy but you know, great turnaround for him.

728
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Speaker 5: I mean, I love these stories in the NFL when

729
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: a player you rule for dead comes back and and

730
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 5: you know Sam Donald being at the forefront as well,

731
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 5: but you know, Mayfield, to me, it just seems like

732
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 5: he's so good late in the down and his ability

733
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 5: to scramble or his ability to make throws on the

734
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 5: run and keeping him contained and being able to you know,

735
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 5: finish him off in the pocket I think is just

736
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 5: a huge key this week. But no, Abuka looks really

737
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 5: good I me, and Rashad White is no slouch at

738
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 5: running back. So they've got some some pieces. Kate Auden's big,

739
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 5: big tight end made some catches for them. You know,

740
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 5: we'll see some of the ancillary receivers if they're able

741
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 5: to you know, contribute.

742
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 6: But it's a good team. They're a good team.

743
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: About Godwin, are they a different team?

744
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 4: Well, it's without Godwin, Evans and Bucky Earth.

745
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I am the Millan.

746
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 5: I mean they're on there like fourth, fifth, sixth receiver

747
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 5: and they're still Okay.

748
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Speaker 4: I forgot about McMillan. Yeah, Baker's awesome, Like, Baker's great,

749
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: great arm talent, really strong arm, vertical passer, just great,

750
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: like fearless scrambler, one of the best scrambling quarterbacks in

751
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: the league. He's great, but he got no help right now.

752
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: I mean, their their skill positions are completely banged up.

753
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: Even at Buka's been kind of like in and out

754
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: a little bit. But right now they're rolling with Buka,

755
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 4: Tez Johnson and Sterling Shepherd as there are three receivers.

756
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 4: So that's not Evans, Godwin and Buka. You know, like

757
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: this is not what they were at the beginning of

758
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: the season, when Baker was in MVP discussions and stuff

759
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 4: like that. That group is, you know, last two weeks,

760
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Speaker 4: it's been a little bit tougher. So I do think

761
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Speaker 4: there is another week where man coverage matchups like Gonzales

762
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Speaker 4: On like Buka, like, you feel pretty good that you

763
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: you can at least stand in the middle of the

764
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: ring with it. I'm with Douce. You know lt in

765
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: the down scrambles. You know, that kind of stuff is

766
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 4: probably what is going to ultimately beat you if you

767
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 4: get beat in this game. Because Baker is he's fearless,

768
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Speaker 4: like he will run people over. You know.

769
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do they have on defense that could post

770
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: problems everything?

771
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Speaker 4: Yeah, their defense is scares me more than their offense.

772
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 4: Tod Bowles runs one of the most blitz heavy schemes

773
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: in the league, always has. He comes after quarterbacks. You know,

774
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 4: great secondary. Antoine Winfield Junior is one of the best

775
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 4: safeties in the league. Jamal Dean's playing a really high level.

776
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: I was a big fan of Jacob Parrish in the

777
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: draft slot corner. He's playing a good having a good

778
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 4: rookie season. Vita Vea, you know that guy is as

779
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: good as any interior defensive tackle that they're going to

780
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Speaker 4: face all year. Yeah, this is as you know, They've

781
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Speaker 4: phaged three really good defenses in a row. Oh, there's

782
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 4: a lot of talk about the schedule and all that,

783
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: but this is Brown's Falcons. Bucks is three legitimate defenses

784
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: that they faced in a row. So this is going

785
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: to be another tough test.

786
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Speaker 6: For Drake headline for Drake.

787
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Speaker 5: I mean that's to me, that's, you know, a really

788
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 5: good opportunity for him to get back on track against

789
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 5: a good defense.

790
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 6: I mean it's I say good opportunity. I think it's

791
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 6: it's going to be a.

792
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 5: Tough challenge down there, but I'd love to see Drake

793
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 5: be able to bounce back and get away from what

794
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 5: you know Evan was talking about yesterday with the one

795
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 5: and run, like Kenny, hang in there, Kenny, you know,

796
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 5: manage the blitz, manage what's coming, understand what's coming, nowhere

797
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 5: to go with the ball. So it's going to be

798
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 5: a really good test for him on the road against

799
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 5: a really good defense.

800
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

801
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: They run a lot of crazy pressures, and you know,

802
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: they'll show pressure from one place and they'll bring it

803
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: from another. And they really don't have any coverage tendencies

804
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 4: like they kind of.

805
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: I know, that's the dial in the middle of the packet.

806
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 5: Like everything every coverage man's own splits everything. It's just

807
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 5: it's hard to really get a statistical beat on what

808
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 5: they do.

809
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a really good defense.

810
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: What's the early line two and a half? I think

811
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: Bucks are favorite.

812
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I mean that was Monday. I

813
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: haven't looked the last couple of days. Yeah, I don't

814
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: know if that's moved.

815
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: So a lot of the houses have been calling me

816
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: telling me that, you know, the getting money at home

817
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: has been changed. You know, travel is better now these days,

818
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: and it's not so much a burden for teams, even

819
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: ones coming. So they're telling me to to tout you know,

820
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: more like two points sometimes a point and a half

821
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: for the home team. Oh it's changing.

822
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to me, it looks like with the Bucks,

823
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: you know, if they were healthy on offense, then I

824
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: think that they would be more prohibitive favorites in this game.

825
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 4: But without Evans and Godwin and Bucky Irving, it's just

826
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 4: not the same group that they had in the first

827
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: month of the season. So, you know, first six weeks,

828
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: he's averaging like twenty seven to twenty eight points a game.

829
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: They're still favored by a little So is that disrespect

830
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: to the Patriots. I'm sure you'll find it. Yeah. Oh

831
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: they hate us.

832
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 3: Uh, it's still two and a half according to draft.

833
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: Allow this disrespect.

834
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 5: He just mentioned Buck because he's still one of my

835
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 5: all time the Patriots, one of my all time hilarious,

836
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 5: like just scouting experiences of like watching Bucker in a

837
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 5: couple of years ago and be like.

838
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: Oh, he's good.

839
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 5: You know, he's explosive, like and then we get to

840
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 5: the combine, what do you run?

841
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: Like a four eight?

842
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 4: Yeah like that. Yeah, he is definitely like this was

843
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: already starting to go this way with running backs, but

844
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: like the forty yard dash for the running backs, a

845
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 4: lot of people are starting to just throw out like

846
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: as a event you can't play. Yeah, so yeah, he

847
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 4: was one of those. Kien Williams is another one that

848
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 4: ran a really slow forty times, an awesome NFL player,

849
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 4: So both those guys have been really good. Like Rashad

850
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 4: White's a good pass catching back, Like he's kind of

851
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: a you know, good act player, get out of the

852
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: backfield type of player, but he's not he's not buckier.

853
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 3: But he doesn't give you the home run potential.

854
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: That's what it is. The line has now changed to

855
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: Tampa minus three. Well within seconds, in seconds literally, I.

856
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 4: Think I think it was us us talking about it.

857
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: We just wish your ilk, But what do you think

858
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: about that? Is that just a money thing? I still

859
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: don't know they're trying to get England money coming in.

860
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 6: I think you've confused me on such an epic scale

861
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 6: thread that I just have.

862
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: No idea what it means anymore. When a line most

863
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: two and a half, here we go and go from

864
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: two and a half to three, the houses are saying

865
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 2: we need more new England money.

866
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 4: Sure, well it is weird because like the reports are

867
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 4: that they're getting nobody back right right right, move it.

868
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: It's weird, Yeah, weird.

869
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: I mean they might get go Decky back, but he's

870
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 4: going to come back off injured reserve and he hasn't

871
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 4: practiced or played in a month, like so it.

872
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: Might be still a week away anyway.

873
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, So I don't know, but they're not getting

874
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: any of their skill players back. It doesn't sound like so.

875
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: Like I said, I I assuming that Gonzo's okay, which

876
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: he said he was after the game, but assuming that

877
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: he's okay, like if you put him on like Buca,

878
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: like I kind of like how they match up, Like

879
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 4: I don't really know where else he's gonna go.

880
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: Marcus John, I mean some speed on speed there, yeah, I.

881
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: Mean maybe Kate and gives him some problems, but he's

882
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: not like an explosive tight end he's got a chain

883
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: moving tight end.

884
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, so would you be taking the under on this game?

885
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm confident enough what the number

886
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 4: is under.

887
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 9: No.

888
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 6: I think that's a good that's a good qumber.

889
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 3: I'll look it up.

890
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: Okay, seem annoyed at this talk.

891
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: Like I'm just the whole disrespect thing.

892
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: I got him, I got him. You didn't know?

893
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you say it for the bucks, like just

894
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: like a spread is a spread?

895
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: Like what do you mean?

896
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: Why is why does spreads have to mean something?

897
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 2: They always mean something.

898
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they mean like they're trying to get the betting

899
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 3: to be even. That's what it's all means.

900
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: That's what it means, right, But it means something. So

901
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: if you go from two and a half to three,

902
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: it means that money is you know, right, does it

903
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: mean something or doesn't matter? Or sometimes news comes out that,

904
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: you know what, players not coming back.

905
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 3: That's that's amazing. I literally just did the same thing,

906
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 3: clicked on the same link, and it is now three.

907
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: Like that forty eight and a half I would take

908
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: the under.

909
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: I take that that's a lot.

910
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: Forty eight and a half is the number.

911
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: Because Tampa's not really scoring like crazy eye that they had.

912
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 4: It was twenty three to three against.

913
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: They've been I think the last two weeks they've had.

914
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: No Baker lately, last two games is before they're by

915
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 4: Baker is only completing like fifty six percent of his passes.

916
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 4: They just their guys are hurt. Like it's not a hymn.

917
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 5: This is why the Seattle game that I want, that's

918
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 5: not that team anymore. But that was a toe to

919
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 5: toe thirty five, thirty four whatever it was, like, I mean,

920
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 5: just back and forth against each other.

921
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: And you know that's excess great. You know, obviously we

922
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: are not allowed to ever ever ever bet thinks, let

923
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: alone the NFL. But if you're out there and you

924
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: are someone who likes to dabble, be careful about this game.

925
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: Be careful.

926
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 4: Something's going on, That's what I mean. What is going on?

927
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: Something I have to wait for somebody from one of

928
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 2: the houses.

929
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: But you say that every single game, every single I

930
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 3: do not game. So I'm just curious, like what.

931
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 2: Is going on? When I think there's a spread that's

932
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: a little.

933
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: Bit okay, So what is fish about this spread?

934
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: I think it should be closer? Why because I think

935
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: the Patriots are.

936
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: A good team, and you don't think Tampa is a

937
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: good team.

938
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: Think they're both.

939
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 3: I think it's immense respect for the Patriots going on

940
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: the road with a team coming off it's by that

941
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: has won consistently as opposed to being the first time

942
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: they've won. And it's a three point spread, which you've

943
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: told me numerous times over the last fifteen years. It's

944
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: basically even because they're home.

945
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: I just told you that.

946
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: I know because you changed because the Patriots are not

947
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: underdogs by three on the road, So you're changing your

948
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: whole mentality of the last twenty years.

949
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: I'm getting information. I'm getting information, and I'm like you,

950
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: I'm not stubborn. I don't know. I don't dig my

951
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: heels in the sand on every take.

952
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: I often I often hitting it. I'm wrong. Don't tell

953
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: me that I don't.

954
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 6: It doesn't like Freddy the Greek.

955
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: It's just if some of Freddy the Greek.

956
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: Like every single game we do the same thing. It's like,

957
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 3: what is just like with Joe Murray, like this.

958
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 4: Smells fishing smells like.

959
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: Not every single game is I don't think it's every single.

960
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 4: But there's something the other night smelled a little bit

961
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 4: of fish face. Jalen Brown gets tripped on the ground,

962
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: I don't call it, and then they lose the game.

963
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: It smelled a little bit fishing.

964
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: So I would just say, like, all right, Houston, Philadelphia, Seattle,

965
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: San Francisco, Detroit, those are teams that Tampa's played to

966
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: get the same record as you. You have Buffalo that

967
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: are the only team of any close to any of

968
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 3: the caliber of those teams. So why is it so

969
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: out of the ordinary that maybe people look at Tampa's

970
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: being better than the Patriots.

971
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 4: That's why it's only three.

972
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 3: That's why it's only three, is exactly right.

973
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: Why they really don't respect us right well, respect, but

974
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: I think that creases. That's the disrespect.

975
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: The biggest thing you have going for you is I

976
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: think their offense, instead of scoring the thirty plus that

977
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: they scored a lot earlier in the year, as Mike said,

978
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 3: twenty nine, twenty five, thirty eight, thirty in a full

979
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 3: week stretch, then they lost all those receivers and it

980
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: was nine and twenty three. Yeah, Like, so their offense

981
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: is going the other way. If their offense was still

982
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 3: rolling like that, like Evan said, you probably would be

983
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: maybe a touchdown underdog in this game. I think that's

984
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: the biggest thing you have going yep, is that they're

985
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 3: not going to probably get this to be a shootout.

986
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 5: Another part of it, Baker Mayfield has a knee injury.

987
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 5: I mean he's been on the injury report too, so

988
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 5: that's something to watch the sea.

989
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 3: He's mildly inconsistent winning games.

990
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: His accuracy is interesting to me. Like the Detroit game,

991
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: he missed so many open receivers and he was awful

992
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: that night. I mean, he missed Tesz Johnson on a

993
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 4: cross route wide open for a touchdown to make that

994
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: game competitive, and he just airmailed one and like it

995
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: just he has weird like he's got a rocket for

996
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 4: an arm, but he's got these weird like bouts of inaccurate.

997
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: I just don't look as at Tampa, like when they

998
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: went to Buffalo, like I was like, that's gonna be

999
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: tough to win a Buffalo Buffalo is like a touchdown, Like,

1000
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: I don't look at Tampa's good. Yeah, they're I think

1001
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: they're very similar to the Patriots if they have a

1002
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: good like they're a good record, like I could understand

1003
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: like two and a half.

1004
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 5: Three, Like yeah, just a little more established it. Yeah,

1005
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 5: especially on the defensive side of the ball.

1006
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: Actually have a.

1007
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: Lot of experience on defense, and they have a Bowls

1008
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 4: is a great defensive coordinator.

1009
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: Is Larry fort the former linebacker. Yeah, that he's the

1010
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: I know he's the he's the defensive coordinator. He's the guy.

1011
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: Michigan guy yep, played for the Jets. I think Pittsburgh yep.

1012
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1013
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 4: He Their defense is well designed, well executed, well everything offensively.

1014
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 4: I think another thing that that's interesting about them is

1015
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: they're on their third coordinator in three years because keeps

1016
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: getting his coordinator's head coaching jobs. So they're on a

1017
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: third head oc now. And I think over the last

1018
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 4: couple of weeks, you know, I think it's injuries, but

1019
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 4: I know a lot of locally in Tampa they're starting

1020
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 4: to come after the offensive coordinator a little bit, but

1021
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 4: I think that's mostly just him.

1022
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: This is a very winnable game, Brad. This isn't like

1023
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: like a lot of people went into Buffalo like, oh,

1024
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, maybe they can win this one.

1025
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 3: I know, this isn't that. If the Patriots win this game,

1026
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: it's a good, solid win. I'm not saying it's not.

1027
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 3: But it's not like this. Oh man, they shocked the

1028
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 3: world stunning up set. Oh no, this is a very

1029
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: winnable game.

1030
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 7: No.

1031
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 4: The only other thing I would say too about it

1032
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 4: is I think that they might have a little bit

1033
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: of an advantage in terms like of like in game coaching,

1034
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 4: like Todd Bowls is not exactly the best in terms

1035
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 4: of like all the stuff that Paul always brings up

1036
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: on Tuesdays, like managing the clock and like the game

1037
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: situation and like all like it's he's a really really

1038
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 4: good defensive coordinator, really good at designing defense. But if

1039
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 4: he gets into a battle of wits with Mike Rabel

1040
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: and it's like a close game late and they both

1041
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: have to make like some you know, in game decision

1042
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: making type of things, I would go advantage Patriots there

1043
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: for sure.

1044
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 5: One other things, just real quick, Fred that I picked

1045
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 5: up two punts blocked, one for a touchdown, a field

1046
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 5: goal attempt blocked for a touchdown as well. They've had

1047
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 5: some they've had some special teams miscues which maybe you know,

1048
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 5: in the margins might be a place Patriots could take advantage.

1049
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: All right, well, let's have you joined the discussion. Eight

1050
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: five to five Pats five hundred is the Hotline podcast

1051
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: at Patriots dot com as the email address. What do

1052
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: you think of the disrespect both from the betting world

1053
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: and and in the trade market teams not willing to

1054
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: do business with you? Fred towards Paul because nobody wants

1055
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: to be the team that helped the Patriots regain their greatness, right.

1056
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: I agree with you, Fred, yep.

1057
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: Now that's funny.

1058
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: Spread things is nonsensoral, that's fun No one wants to

1059
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: trade with the Patriots to make them better.

1060
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 4: I agree, agreed.

1061
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: Let's start with HERM and DC. What's up herm?

1062
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 10: Hey, what's going on?

1063
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: Fellows?

1064
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 8: How you doing.

1065
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: The defensive court? Quick question?

1066
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 10: No, quick question? So to win the game, there's a

1067
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 10: little bit of disappointment slash surprise, as Paul says surrounding

1068
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 10: the trade out line that we didn't make it moves

1069
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 10: but doesn't affect that the Bills, uh still pat obviously,

1070
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 10: the Jets subtracted and Dolphin and the Dolphins maybe guys

1071
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 10: still a little better considering I think it was one

1072
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 10: of the coach variables his goals to win a division,

1073
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 10: which I think is still full in play at this point.

1074
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 10: And I'll take it off there.

1075
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: Okay.

1076
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 4: So I think it's interesting because I often think about

1077
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 4: those goals because his first checkpoint was take advantage of

1078
00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 4: bad football?

1079
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: Why you want a game Sunday?

1080
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 4: I think we were there.

1081
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: I think we've done that absolutely.

1082
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 4: His second checkpoint was when the division. His third checkpoint

1083
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 4: was host home playoff game, which I guess kind of

1084
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 4: goes hand in hand with the division, and then compete

1085
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 4: for championships Like that was sort of the the how

1086
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 4: how far have they gotten?

1087
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 11: Like?

1088
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: Are they just at take advantage of bad football? Because

1089
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 4: they are deadline signals to me that they feel like

1090
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: that's just where they are. They might win the division anyways,

1091
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 4: just because of the way it's set up for them,

1092
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 4: but they they might feel like they're not really in

1093
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 4: that compete for championships category yet.

1094
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's lining up for that Buffalo game.

1095
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't I don't want to look ahead,

1096
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 6: you know, I don't want to want to look ahead.

1097
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 3: It wasn't that the meeting this week. You can look ahead.

1098
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 3: There was no one there to keep us grounded.

1099
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: You know that, right, yeah, speech.

1100
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 4: There's nothing, there was no like you know what, fact,

1101
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 4: keep your eye on the ball.

1102
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: There's not everyone has their own style.

1103
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 5: But you know, even if you go to and one

1104
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 5: over these next three, I mean not asking a lot,

1105
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 5: I don't think to you know, maybe, I mean, Cincinnati

1106
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 5: probably gonna have to put some points on the board

1107
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 5: against those guys. But you know, you go to and

1108
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 5: one over these three, you get the bye week, there's

1109
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of hype. The Bills are probably

1110
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 5: gonna win. I mean very well. Could be adding up

1111
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 5: that you know for sure that it will be for

1112
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 5: the division, but it's probably gonna feel like it when

1113
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 5: we go into that I'm gonna.

1114
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 3: Just gonna be pretty cool. I'm going into that game

1115
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: thinking to myself, that's for the division.

1116
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: So I heard something that that game can't be flexed

1117
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: to a night game because we've already had a night

1118
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: game with that opponent. I'd never heard this rule.

1119
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 3: I had not heard of that, but it would make sense.

1120
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that does check out.

1121
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 2: That's good.

1122
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 5: So you're gonna have a you know, a December ball

1123
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 5: Baltimore is the one way then you've got to go

1124
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 5: to Baltimore or that you could flex that.

1125
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: Two right right right, yes, saying yeah, but it would be.

1126
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 3: Interesting if the Patriots keep winning, they're gonna want to

1127
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: get that. I mean, the Patriots are a huge market

1128
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: for the for the league. They're going to want to

1129
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: get the Patriots in that prime time if they can't

1130
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: if they you know, if they're I don't know, ten

1131
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 3: and three, why wouldn't you want to get them on

1132
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: TV more?

1133
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know in those windows.

1134
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: And I think you mean Drake May is an m

1135
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: VP candidate.

1136
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1137
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 5: Baltimore is right after Buffalo, right, so it's like, you know,

1138
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 5: you happen to win that game, I mean, you got

1139
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 5: to keep it rolling against probably a Ravens team that

1140
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 5: I'm assuming at that point is making a push and

1141
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 5: is you know, playing better and you know.

1142
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: That still healthy. That's a good point that Evan makes.

1143
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: That's a candidate to go together the soup.

1144
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 4: Drake May is like stardom is and it's not just locally,

1145
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: like he is a superstar nationally at this point. And

1146
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: I think it's his playing style, Like I think it's

1147
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 4: just you know, he just is so fun to watch

1148
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: because of how you know, explosive the offense is with

1149
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 4: him at quarterback, and like it's not just us, like

1150
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 4: the national media is falling over themselves.

1151
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 3: Over every week. Every week that they're like effusive.

1152
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 6: It's just like the down the downfield pass.

1153
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 3: Like it's not like I'm not saying it's the same,

1154
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: but like it's Mahomes and Allen. It's like he's running around,

1155
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: he's making plays, He's making these throws down the field

1156
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: that not everybody can do.

1157
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: It's exciting. Yeah.

1158
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 5: That Buffalo game too, is like a couple of I

1159
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 5: mean everybody, of course, but everybody saw it because it

1160
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 5: was on that national.

1161
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 4: When you have a quarterback that's just physically talented as

1162
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 4: he is, and then their top five in the league

1163
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 4: and explosive play raids, so like you're watching an offense

1164
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 4: that just every weekmakers and it's just everybody's just he's

1165
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 4: an absolute superstar.

1166
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

1167
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: Francisco is in North Carolina. Hey, Francisco fan Cicco, Francisco

1168
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: run Cisco. Right, So that's a fun Francis.

1169
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: It was fun guy, have fun.

1170
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 7: All right?

1171
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: I agree with you a little touch today, Like I

1172
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: didn't care about where you're.

1173
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: Going, Evan going to see rabel I thought he was

1174
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: at one o'clock. Yeah, it's it's it's you got ten

1175
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: minutes don't leave us. You gotta catch a an uber

1176
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: to get over there.

1177
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Why didn't you make any move?

1178
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: You don't want to win? All right, he's out. Let's

1179
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: go to Monroe in North Carolina. Hey, Monroe, Roe, Monroe,

1180
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: one roll. Good job, Ray, it was only like fifty minutes. Okay,

1181
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 2: how about we go to Fresno. Cody's and Fresno Hey Cody.

1182
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call.

1183
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: Sure.

1184
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 9: A couple of thoughts and observations I wanted to share

1185
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 9: with you over the course of the season. I think

1186
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 9: you guys have mentioned it. We start a little slow

1187
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 9: in regards to giving up descriptive drive from the other team,

1188
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 9: But on Sunday it was kind of the opposite. First

1189
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 9: half we did well and we went down the field,

1190
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 9: but the second half we kind of fell apart and

1191
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 9: let the team come back.

1192
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1193
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 9: So from what I've seen, it's kind of been a

1194
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 9: tail of the two halves for the whole year.

1195
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

1196
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 9: And I'm wondering what the reason for that is. The

1197
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 9: other question or the other thought I had is, excuse me.

1198
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 9: A lot of times when we're playing these teams, I

1199
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 9: feel like they get a lot of injuries, They get

1200
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 9: banged up, and it seems like the effort and toughness

1201
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 9: that the team plays with is too much to handle.

1202
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 9: I don't know what it is exactly, but I noticed

1203
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 9: a lot of injuries for our opponents when we play them.

1204
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: So I'm wondering what heading into the games, Well, we

1205
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: beat them up to I know what you're saying. I mean,

1206
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: the Patriots lost a lot more players during that game

1207
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: the other day than Atlanta did. But we're tougher, right,

1208
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: Patriots had like four or five guys leave that game

1209
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 3: the other day. The Falcons had a couple to the lineman.

1210
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 3: I think the guard got hurt early in the game

1211
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: on Yeah, but I think the injuries are more so

1212
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: teams are banged up heading into games.

1213
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 9: What are you saying, Cody, I was going to say,

1214
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 9: sometimes during the games, at least the one the dark Seam,

1215
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 9: the teams that get banged up, those players are like

1216
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 9: out for the game. A lot of times are players

1217
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 9: when we get banged up. Fortunately, we've been We've been lucky.

1218
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 9: Major injuries. Yeah, yeah, we've been major injuries. We'll get

1219
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 9: banged up a movie.

1220
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 3: I just said, we're lucky. They had guys leave the

1221
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: game the other day.

1222
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: I know. But overall in the season, you have to

1223
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: admit we've been pretty good with injuries.

1224
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: We've been excellent with injuries. I don't really see a

1225
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: correlation like the in game injuries, Like I.

1226
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: Haven't really clocked it.

1227
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: I don't think it's.

1228
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: Like all right, coach, it's like hang in there. So

1229
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 2: it's the.

1230
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 3: Point other than to say what you said.

1231
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 2: Luck, Yeah, we've been pretty lucky to.

1232
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 5: His first point, though, that was a funny part of

1233
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 5: Rabel's press conference on Monday, where he kind of was like,

1234
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 5: for those of you want to.

1235
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: Know, I'd much rather prefer to have a slow first

1236
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: drive and.

1237
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: Finished, rather get a touchdown on the first drive and

1238
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 3: shut him out the rest of the way than what

1239
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 3: happened on Sunday.

1240
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: Right now, now his thing about like why haven't be

1241
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: able to put sixty minutes together? I think a lot

1242
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 2: of it has to do with, you know, with matchups

1243
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: and other teams making you know, us making adjustments to

1244
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: make bad into good. But I think in this case,

1245
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: I think Atlanta made some good adjustments in the second

1246
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: half to give us trouble. Each game is a little

1247
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: bit different, I think to say oh, this is the

1248
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 2: reason why they haven't put sixty minutes together. And that's

1249
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: it's one reason. I think. It's every game has its

1250
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: own reason. Yeah, you know, like last game, that play

1251
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: with Drake changed everything. You know, if he doesn't make that,

1252
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that we're in a battle at the

1253
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: end of that game. But so every game you have

1254
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: to look at every game in its own context. I think, yeah,

1255
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: I think that's a good way to put it.

1256
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 5: And I continue just to struggle to really get a

1257
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 5: beat on the defense. Like I believe in their run

1258
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 5: defense now, I really do like that's something I think

1259
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 5: is a truth. But as we talked about yesterday, there's

1260
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 5: just you know, something doesn't quite add up. And you know,

1261
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 5: Evan's kind of theory is that it's some of the

1262
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 5: coverage stuff.

1263
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 2: But I just I don't know, still don't know what.

1264
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 5: To think of this defense when it comes down to

1265
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 5: it against a good quarterback and I got to have

1266
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 5: it moment and are they going to be the.

1267
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 2: Defense of it?

1268
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: Is?

1269
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: That's the NFL, you know, that's why most games are

1270
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: one score or less, you know, eight points or less.

1271
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 3: Eb and flow Fred's point is right, it's probably something

1272
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 3: different from game to game. I think Mike makes a

1273
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: good point of having a hard time getting a read

1274
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 3: on the defense. Offensively, to me, has been much bigger

1275
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 3: fluctuation from half to half. The Miami game they did

1276
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: very little in the second half, the Tennessee game, very

1277
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: little in the second half. New Orleans very little in

1278
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 3: the second half. This game, Atlanta nothing in the second half,

1279
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 3: Raiders nothing in the second half. The Cleveland game is

1280
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: nothing in the first half, and then they had a

1281
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 3: great second half offensively. So I think it just kind

1282
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 3: of speaks to Evan's point about not necessarily wanting to

1283
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 3: embrace the trade deadline and going all in. They kind

1284
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 3: of know what they are. They don't have quite enough

1285
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: to do any of this for sixty minutes, and they

1286
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: know it, and I think they're coaching their asses off

1287
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 3: to get what they're getting out of what they have.

1288
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: And it's hard to just, you know, scheme up a

1289
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: pop Douglas play like that for sixty full minutes. You

1290
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: know they've been able to do it. You know they

1291
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: did it coming out of the halftime break against Cleveland,

1292
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: But all those other games they had really good first

1293
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 3: halfs offensively and kind of slowed down a little bit

1294
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 3: in the second half. Yeah, because I think once to

1295
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: Fred's point, once the other team sort of figures it

1296
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 3: out a little bit, sometimes they have as much talent

1297
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: as you, if not more, and they're able to neutralize you,

1298
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: even as well as Drake May has played.

1299
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember that.

1300
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: That's a very simplistic way of looking at the conversation.

1301
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 5: I think we had last year, We've had it from

1302
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 5: time to time, But just how many actual really good

1303
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 5: defenses are there in the league that are consistently every

1304
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 5: week they show up sixty minutes. It's you know, it's

1305
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 5: I think this is kind of how the league is

1306
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 5: to some extent, And that's part of my that's unsure

1307
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 5: because I do think that, you know, if you were

1308
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 5: to get into a playoff game, I can sell myself

1309
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 5: on yeah, it's going to be back and forth and

1310
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 5: they're going to give up some points, but when it

1311
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 5: comes down to the final five minutes of the game,

1312
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 5: I feel pretty good about Milton Williams and Christian Barmore

1313
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 5: and those guys being the kind of guys that can

1314
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 5: finish the game.

1315
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 6: Now, do I know they're going to do it?

1316
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 5: No, But I'll this is kind of how NFL defense

1317
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 5: is now too, you know.

1318
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: Yep, Anthony's in Seattle. Hey, Anthony, Hey.

1319
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 12: What's uping to people?

1320
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: Hey?

1321
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 12: Hey, so I've been sending in the PFW Mott covers

1322
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 12: ever since you gouts on the college came with that idea,

1323
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 12: and I had I had a headline all ready. If

1324
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 12: the game had played out the way it looked like

1325
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 12: it was going to play out, it was going to

1326
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 12: be doing the Birds dirty. But of course, you know,

1327
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 12: the game turned on his head and there was another

1328
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 12: drake who was the start.

1329
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: Of the game.

1330
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 12: So I kind of leaned into that, but it was

1331
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 12: it was half parted. I sent it int Alex, but

1332
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 12: just let her know I no offense if it's if

1333
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 12: it doesn't make the newsletter, because it did. Wasn't my best, Okay.

1334
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 12: I wanted to talk a little bit about Josh McDaniels.

1335
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 12: I've been kind of noticing so, you know how you

1336
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 12: kind of look at him Bill a little bit different,

1337
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 12: the further he's removed from having top Tom Brady.

1338
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: At his hips.

1339
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 12: I'm having that same effect with Josh McDaniels, but in

1340
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 12: a good way, and I'm starting to really look at

1341
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 12: him like man like like if you look at like

1342
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 12: the version of Cam Newton he had to work with,

1343
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 12: then you know, Max Jones, rookie year, another feather in

1344
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 12: his cap, and then Drake May who's you know, you

1345
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 12: could argue he's probably the most talented quarterback he's had

1346
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 12: to work with. But then okay, that that might be

1347
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 12: the case, but this is no you know, run of

1348
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 12: the mill year two jump. This is like, this kid's

1349
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 12: an MVP candidate. This is like like like dramatic what

1350
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 12: he's doing. And I'm looking at Josh like, man, you know,

1351
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 12: I didn't know he was this good. And you know,

1352
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 12: I'm not as convinced anymore that that he's not gonna

1353
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 12: get another third head coaching opportunity somewhere. Just you know

1354
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 12: that it's it's it's it's he's got a strong resume

1355
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 12: out there, so a certain a.

1356
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: Head coach in the college.

1357
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: It's interesting I brought that up a few weeks ago,

1358
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 3: I think with on my show with with Mike and

1359
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: Tony and I may have we may have talked about

1360
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: it here too. I would have told you heading into

1361
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 3: the season, regardless of how well Josh McDaniels does, he's done,

1362
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 3: he had two, not just too bad. He had two

1363
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: disasters as a head coach. Now, there are plenty of

1364
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 3: examples of guys that get more than two chances for

1365
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: whatever reason, and they're not guys that you think of,

1366
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 3: like you know, Pete Carroll's one of them, and he's

1367
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 3: had obviously a lot of success, But like guys like

1368
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 3: Norv Turner who basically didn't really do it all three times,

1369
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 3: Wade Phillips, you know some guys like that. I think

1370
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 3: Anthony makes a good point when you look at just

1371
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 3: how much better Drake Matt. Now I've been on Mike

1372
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 3: and I kind of bickered about this on a postgame

1373
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 3: show and we did a trash talk for it on

1374
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 3: the TV show. I give a lot more credit to

1375
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 3: Drake May, but it's inarguable that Josh McDaniels has had

1376
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 3: an enormous impact positive impact on.

1377
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 2: I mean, and if you're looking at seasons that Josh

1378
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: kind of proved himself without Tom Brady, you have to

1379
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 2: include that Cam Newton season too. That was the corpse

1380
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: of Cam Newton and what they won nine games or

1381
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: something that that that year.

1382
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 3: Seven, But they were terrible and there was terrible.

1383
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: A lot they won games with this guy who like

1384
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: was washed immediately. It was more than Cam Newton.

1385
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 5: It was that was a terrible team, you know, I mean,

1386
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 5: it's terrible, but I like, I don't. I mean, I

1387
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,959
Speaker 5: give Josh a lot of credit to but I also

1388
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 5: want to see how this finishes up, because this is

1389
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 5: where offensive coordinators earn their money. It's not when you

1390
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 5: spring something new on the league and you have some

1391
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 5: success at the beginning. It's about what happens when they

1392
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 5: catch up. What happens when they catch up. Drake May's

1393
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 5: coming off the tough game, Drake May felt sped.

1394
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: Up again for the first time in a couple of

1395
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: months now.

1396
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 5: So this is where you know, this is we're talking

1397
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 5: to the Patriots have a chance at the division. Well

1398
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 5: do they continue to peak and rise or do they

1399
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 5: kind of level off and Drake May returns to earth.

1400
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 5: I'm sure there'll be some element of that. He's not

1401
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 5: going to play at the level he played at a

1402
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago consistently. But this is to me

1403
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 5: where you prove it. So I appreciate what he's saying

1404
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 5: and then give credit to both those guys. And it's

1405
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: been great, but let's see how it looks in November and.

1406
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 3: Yet not yet, not yet, Okay, But I do think

1407
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: Anthony's point is not out of the realm of possibility.

1408
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 3: Do I expect him to get another job. No, I don't.

1409
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 3: But I would have said there's a zero percent chance

1410
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 3: heading into the season. I don't put it at zero anymore.

1411
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: And I think Fred's point about college is also, yeah,

1412
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 3: if the right kind of opportunity came up. I know

1413
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 3: he loves this area. He doesn't want to take his

1414
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 3: kids out of here. That's why I would put it

1415
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: at a very small percentage. I just wants to stay here.

1416
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 5: I know that's and that's when I look at when

1417
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 5: I look at him, and he just seems so like

1418
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 5: you know, new age Josh.

1419
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 6: He seems relaxed.

1420
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 5: He seems like he has this young quarterback and I

1421
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 5: just he's never going to tell the media. And I'm

1422
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 5: sure everyone wants to ask him this, but you know,

1423
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 5: for him, like it's easy to say, I could imagine

1424
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 5: him being like, man, I got it made, like I

1425
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 5: you know, I can sit here with Drake may re

1426
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 5: establish myself as you know, an all time New England

1427
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 5: Patriot coach as an offensive coordinator.

1428
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: Yes, but at the same time, like.

1429
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 5: Go get some super bowls, go get go answer some

1430
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 5: of these people that you know felt like, oh it

1431
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 5: was all Tom, or it was all Bill.

1432
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Josh, you.

1433
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 6: Know not no one's ever going to give him all

1434
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 6: the credit.

1435
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 5: But I think he can continue to really cement his

1436
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 5: legacy as one of the greatest Patriots coaches of all

1437
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 5: time if he does this again with with Drake May

1438
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 5: and wins playoff games with him.

1439
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: Brady writes in New England Transplant, who has Bucks season tickets?

1440
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 2: Since it sounds like you about twenty twenty one, Tom

1441
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 2: Brady can assure you it does not matter how well

1442
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: the Bucks are playing. Other teams take over Raymond James

1443
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: every week. Really obviously late in the fall, with the

1444
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: weather being great here compared to the North, that factors

1445
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: in for fans traveling down, but it goes beyond that.

1446
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: So far this season, I would estimate the crowds have

1447
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 2: been thirty five percent Jets fan, fifty percent Eagles fan.

1448
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: For that game nine ers, I'm estimating between forty and

1449
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: fifty per Patriots fans. Yeah, well, it's supposed to be huge.

1450
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: I talked to I told you my my ticket contact

1451
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 3: within it. By far and away, the people in Tampa

1452
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 3: have told us that, by far and away, this is

1453
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 3: the most visiting fan ticket request they've gotten, and it

1454
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 3: makes sense, Like, but what you're talking about San Francisco

1455
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 3: might be a little bit of an outlier. But the

1456
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 3: Jets and Philly people from that this area, they go

1457
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 3: down to Florida, they want to do it. And I

1458
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 3: know those games were earlier in the year, but it's

1459
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: still much better down there than what we had lastly.

1460
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: Evan is correct about the Bucks defense. If you're going

1461
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: to score on them, you better start early. Bowles makes

1462
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: incredible in game adjustments and gives quarterbacks trouble.

1463
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good intel all around. I

1464
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 3: do expect there to be a lot of Patriots fans,

1465
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 3: based on what I've been told, a lot of Patriots

1466
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: fans in Tampa.

1467
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: Chad's not happy at Chad Chad, Chad Chad, because I

1468
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: get pessimistic at times. That being said, the lack of

1469
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 2: any moves at all yesterday was kind of confusing and troubling.

1470
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: Do they not think that they're good enough of a

1471
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: contender to bother to add anyone, or do they honestly

1472
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 2: think they can sustain with what they have. Either way,

1473
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't sit well with me.

1474
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I think I think they tried.

1475
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 3: I need more information.

1476
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: Takes two to tango.

1477
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 13: Yeah, do you know they tried? Yeah, Tennessee, how do

1478
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 13: you know that they tried? I was told, okay, that's

1479
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 13: what I asked, do you know? And I said yes,

1480
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 13: But I wanted to know why.

1481
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 3: It was just afraidism.

1482
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: No, it's just like a lot of moving thing.

1483
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 7: Or we.

1484
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: Were told the person we wanted wasn't going to be traded,

1485
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: and then they weren't going to trade him, and then

1486
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: they traded him. All right, Well, rivalry back on them.

1487
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 3: Maybe they didn't want to trade what they didn't want

1488
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: to give what Baltimore gave.

1489
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. No, No, we were told not trading them,

1490
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: m okay yeah, and then I tell him they didn't

1491
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: believe me. So I don't know. I don't know what

1492
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: to say.

1493
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 14: The lines back down to two and a half.

1494
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 2: You can feel the line moving talking about it.

1495
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 3: It's magic.

1496
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: Moneys are listening right. There's a lot of money changing

1497
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 2: hands right now.

1498
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 3: Like some kid making ten dollars an hour. That's like, yeah,

1499
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 3: two point five.

1500
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: Oh, man, imagine that.

1501
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 5: I just That's why I'm like sometimes I think when

1502
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 5: we watch some of the like the gambling ads and stuff,

1503
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm just kind of glad that I'm being

1504
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 5: saved for myself that I just can't even really consider

1505
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 5: it because it just seems like once I start doing it,

1506
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 5: you know, like watching the Bruins last night, like things

1507
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 5: like that, Like I feel like it'd be so easy, like, yeah,

1508
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 5: give me a three.

1509
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: You watch like Bruins last night? How do you do that?

1510
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 5: I got, I got, I got a fool, I got

1511
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 5: a fubo. Now you can I tell you how much

1512
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 5: I hate the Bruins. I'm really I really don't like

1513
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 5: them right now.

1514
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: I hate the defense.

1515
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 3: We're hot. I know that's because the best defenseman's hurt.

1516
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 3: I hate I hate the door off, the door off.

1517
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 3: I hate what's this space?

1518
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 2: Linholm?

1519
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 9: That guy?

1520
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 3: Oh I like Hampus Campus, I like him. I don't

1521
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 3: like that, And it's because I see a little too

1522
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: much of myself on it. Did you see did you

1523
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 3: see last night he had a play with the power

1524
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 3: play and they do that thing where they bring it

1525
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: up and then they pass it back to the lake

1526
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 3: guy and he passed it back to the other team at.

1527
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 7: Breakout.

1528
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 3: I don't know why that became such a thing, but

1529
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: everybody does it.

1530
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 5: Well it's fine if you don't. Just don't give to

1531
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 5: the other team hampus because now they're going in. I

1532
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 5: know they're defense bug.

1533
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1534
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 7: Fantastic.

1535
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 4: Talked about doing your due diligence regarding trades.

1536
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 9: I'm wondering were you.

1537
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,479
Speaker 7: Close to making What did I say on Monday? Because

1538
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 7: I forgot I.

1539
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 4: Said you were going to due diligence.

1540
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 15: So I'm wondering were you close to making any deals?

1541
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 11: And is there any measure of disappointment?

1542
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 16: Well, first, I would say that deals are like being pregnant.

1543
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 16: You either are or you aren't. There's no like. It's

1544
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 16: either a deal or it's not. So I don't know

1545
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 16: how close you can be. I know that everyone worked hard,

1546
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 16: that we investigated and looked in and made phone calls,

1547
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 16: and they what personnel departments, and in the end, you know,

1548
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 16: we decided that this was what we were going to

1549
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 16: do and decided to move forward with our preparation.

1550
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 7: Tampa excellent football team coming off of BUYE.

1551
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 16: A lot of really good veterans that have played at

1552
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 16: a high level for a lot of years in a

1553
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 16: really really competitive quarterback who's never out of it.

1554
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 7: So, you know, that's where our focus is.

1555
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 16: I know that there's a lot of action and a

1556
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 16: lot of talk, and again, it's kind of where we're at.

1557
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 17: We called it all for the organization to sort of

1558
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 17: adhere to its plan when you guys are performing the

1559
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 17: wait you're performing right.

1560
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: Now the top of the division and feel the top of.

1561
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 17: The conference, just to be a little bit more aggressive

1562
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 17: to try to capitalize on what's happening now.

1563
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 7: No, I never really looked at it that way.

1564
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 16: I think we're trying to build a program, the same

1565
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 16: thing that we said when we got here, and I

1566
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 16: think that's part of building a program is finding way

1567
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 16: to win and building a team and figuring out where

1568
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 16: the pieces are that we can continue to add that

1569
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,919
Speaker 16: when it makes sense. And so I don't think anything.

1570
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 16: I don't think this is a negative. I don't think

1571
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 16: this is this is just where we're at. And uh,

1572
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 16: you know, I know they worked extremely hard to make

1573
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 16: calls and have conversations.

1574
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 7: And then in the end and we didn't do anything injuries.

1575
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 3: That's a situation where you'd just like to slot in

1576
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 3: Kyle Williams or could pop dit more snaps as well.

1577
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 16: Well, I think that if you know anything about the group,

1578
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 16: which I know that you guys do, you know there's

1579
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 16: a lot of interchangeable parts. They play different positions, they're

1580
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 16: in different spots, and that that's not easy. I mean,

1581
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 16: that's not you know, I mean going from the Z

1582
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 16: in this personnel group to the to the X. And

1583
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 16: so I give those guys a lot of credit. I

1584
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 16: give Todd a lot of credit for being able to

1585
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 16: teach it in a manner that allows them to get

1586
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 16: lined up.

1587
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 7: And so.

1588
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 16: You know that group, they'll all play, they'll all contribute.

1589
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 16: We'll see where Caysehin is at the end of the week.

1590
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 16: But he won't be out there today, and Ellis won't

1591
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 16: be out there, and Remandre won't be.

1592
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 7: Out there today. So give other guys opportunities.

1593
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 15: Mike theod stuff I did.

1594
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 3: How much as he helped change the whole truth that

1595
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 3: he wanted to change.

1596
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 16: Well, I appreciate everything he does. I appreciate his leadership,

1597
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,799
Speaker 16: his communication. It's easy to talk to I've said that before.

1598
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 7: You know, he.

1599
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 16: You know, nothing's forced nothing's you know, he just it's

1600
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 16: like very easy conversations.

1601
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 7: It's been in here a lot, you know.

1602
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 16: I mean again, forty one guys lifted yesterday on a

1603
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 16: day off, came into the building lifted, which I thought

1604
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 16: is a really positive thing at this time of the year.

1605
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 16: And well, you know, we talked to him about the

1606
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 16: seasons really just getting started right now.

1607
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 3: But the challenge is talk with this defense to present

1608
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: as how much as it involved.

1609
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 9: Of course the time.

1610
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,839
Speaker 16: Well, you know, I'm gonna give Todd credit, but obviously

1611
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 16: the credit goes to the players. They've got veteran players

1612
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 16: that play physical, you know, two really aggressive corners you know,

1613
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 16: obviously the safeties playmakers with Winfield, but up front you know,

1614
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 16: I mean Vita and Reddick and the Abby being Levante.

1615
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 7: David's been doing.

1616
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 16: It at such a high level, you know, So again,

1617
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 16: credit to the players. And then what Todd adds is

1618
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:37,879
Speaker 16: just a lot of pressure, great disguises, bringing multiple players

1619
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 16: from off the football.

1620
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 7: It's not just you know, a linebacker.

1621
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 16: You could have a corner, you could have a safety,

1622
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 16: you could have the nickel, and the coverage changes, and

1623
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 16: you've seen them force a lot of turnovers, especially on

1624
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 16: third down, when quarterbacks are making quick decisions that they

1625
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 16: make the wrong decision. So ten turnovers in the last

1626
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 16: four games. This this will be critical that we take

1627
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 16: care of football like your you know, the.

1628
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 17: Blung term vision for the program. You know is what's

1629
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 17: most important.

1630
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 16: Your in factor is winning is the most important thing.

1631
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 16: Don't put words in my mouth. Winning is the most

1632
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 16: important thing.

1633
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 7: When are just going when.

1634
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 17: You guys are discussing how to handle the trade, that line,

1635
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 17: the fact of how wide open the AFC currently looks

1636
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 17: like at all factor into your decision.

1637
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 16: Maybe for us to sit here and think that anything

1638
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 16: is wide open and talk about playoffs like we're focusing

1639
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 16: on our tenth game in a row.

1640
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 7: That's what we're focused on, is how do.

1641
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 16: We get prepared on when Wednesday, How do we get

1642
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 16: our bodies back, how do we get mentally prepared, physically

1643
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 16: prepared to go on the road to a place that

1644
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 16: is hard to play. And that's where our focus is.

1645
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 16: It's not trying to predict the future saying well, it's

1646
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 16: wide open. It's what we're just going to keep focusing

1647
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 16: on what's in front of us, and that's what those

1648
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 16: conversations are about about.

1649
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 3: The Patriot excuse about the Buckingers offense, What is it

1650
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 3: about their scheme that really challenges you?

1651
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 16: And a lot of stuff before the snap. You know,

1652
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 16: we'll have to be great with just the motions and

1653
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 16: the shifts. And again, give them credit. They've got guys

1654
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 16: going in different spots and jet motions and fly motions,

1655
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 16: getting guys open, you know, getting guys open because defenses

1656
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 16: are having issues with their eyes and they're looking at

1657
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 16: this tight end and the other one is releasing and

1658
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 16: he's wide open. And you know, Baker can extend plays

1659
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 16: or even the manufacture the keepers to both sides. It's

1660
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 16: not like he's just you know, moving the pocket one

1661
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 16: direction if you don't give it a clean look. If

1662
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 16: you give him a clean look, he's going to be

1663
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 16: able to function extremely well. And you know, and then

1664
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 16: they've got backs that can really hurt you. Uh, it's

1665
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 16: it's downtown to get it to one of these backs.

1666
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 16: And then it's an open field tackle drill. And you know,

1667
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 16: they've created X plays that way and they're hard to tackle.

1668
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 4: Their injury situation, does that make it a little more

1669
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 4: difficult to prepare for.

1670
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 7: Them this week?

1671
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 16: I mean, I would imagine we're planning on, I mean

1672
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 16: other than I would say probably Mike Evan, But I

1673
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 16: mean I think that the plays have remained consistent and

1674
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 16: we'll just have to continue to prepare as everybody's going

1675
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 16: to be there.

1676
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 18: De Maria Douglas said after the game of this season

1677
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 18: has been or trust the process kind of mentality for him,

1678
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 18: just for his like lack of snacks at the beginning

1679
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 18: to now.

1680
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 4: Like getting some more. Just what have you seen from.

1681
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 18: Him as a season has gone on that has allowed

1682
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 18: him to.

1683
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 4: Kind of succeed in these past few games.

1684
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 16: The way he has same positive attitude every day, same

1685
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 16: you know, workmanlike attitude, infectious energy that everybody loves being

1686
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 16: around him, being ready for his opportunity and not knowing

1687
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 16: which way the game is gonna go and how those

1688
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 16: snaps are gonna unfold, and then just being ready to

1689
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 16: play multiple positions and do multiple things. And you know,

1690
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 16: that's just a great example of you know, being ready

1691
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 16: to go.

1692
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 18: Where do you see from him in terms of being

1693
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 18: like a default pride, Well, I.

1694
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 3: Mean he's good.

1695
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 16: I mean anytime you know you can get a player

1696
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 16: in there and a slot that can you know work vertical,

1697
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 16: Uh can track the ball. You know, again, when I

1698
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 16: think Drake looks for him when he extends, you know,

1699
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 16: down the field. So those are all important things. He's

1700
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 16: he's been reliable, He's created separation.

1701
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 7: I know this guy.

1702
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stop it being made.

1703
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: Your players, sometimes all of them will roster the spot.

1704
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 16: The guys have been talking about swarming the football as

1705
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 16: one of.

1706
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 7: The key things the coach has allowed them to do.

1707
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 16: So I just want to why this is so important

1708
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 16: for you to do your defensive identity about that? Well,

1709
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 16: the athletes in this league are really good and every

1710
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 16: team has them, and sometimes people miss tackles or their

1711
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 16: space plays. You know, sometimes teams try to create numbers

1712
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 16: out on a perimeter. For example, the second playing the game,

1713
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 16: maybe I don't know.

1714
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 7: First playing the game, I guess I don't know. Maybe

1715
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 7: a second I can't remember.

1716
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,879
Speaker 16: And Milt's running out there and the linebackers are triggering

1717
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 16: and Milt's running down the line, and you know, we

1718
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 16: talk about making them earn it. You know, that's a

1719
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 16: defensive lineman hit a running back for a two yard game.

1720
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 16: So I would say that they earned all those two

1721
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 16: yards last week, and that'll be critical this week. You've

1722
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 16: seen different players, whether that's Herald Milt, Christian Tonga, kc.

1723
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 16: All those guys that play along the front, you know,

1724
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 16: going to extend and help us out on the perimeter

1725
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 16: because you know sometimes.

1726
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 7: Those those are tough tackles.

1727
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 16: So that that's what we want to That's how we

1728
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 16: want to play defense. And it starts with that, and

1729
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 16: then we look at the technique, and then we look

1730
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 16: at the scheme.

1731
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 6: Like how much is the how much is the physical statement?

1732
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 2: Team started to creep to the fourth front of your mind.

1733
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 16: Well, I mean I think a little bit, you know,

1734
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 16: I think a little bit. I think it has to

1735
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 16: We just have to get them ready. We have to

1736
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 16: get them energized to be able to match Tampa's energy

1737
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 16: coming off a few days off. And I'm confident that

1738
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 16: by the time Sundays here, we'll be able to do

1739
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 16: that sort of managing.

1740
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Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 2: History, you know, in the media area down by the

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Speaker 2: rope there and all of a sudden this, you know,

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Speaker 2: Paul GEI, it's like, that's Jason Tatum. I have to

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Speaker 2: admit I was a little bit starstruck.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: You know he's tall, Yeah, tall tall.

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Speaker 14: You let me finish my sentence, you would hear me say.

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Speaker 15: Then you see Tatum standing next to an offensive lineman

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Speaker 15: or like a massive behemoth of a d tackle and

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Speaker 15: you're like, Tatum's really effing tall.

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Speaker 4: He had like this new surgery.

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Speaker 3: I know it's going to have him back before this starts.

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Speaker 4: Can you let me have some hope, Paul for two seconds?

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Speaker 4: But so he had the surgery immediately, like within twenty

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Speaker 4: four hours, and then he had this new I think

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Speaker 4: it's called the speed Bridge. It's like this new procedure

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Speaker 4: of how they you guys know me well enough to

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Speaker 4: know that I am now an expert on Achilles recovery.

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Speaker 4: Let's be honest. He had the speed Bridge procedure with

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Speaker 4: the best doctor in the world who performs this surgery

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Speaker 4: in New York City. Say we're playing in New York

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Speaker 4: when it happened. So that's why you only have the

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Speaker 4: surgery that night.

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Speaker 3: Can you can you let me that's a fact.

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Speaker 1: That's another great moment.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered eighty five to five.

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Speaker 2: PATS five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com.

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Speaker 2: Is the email address. Deuce is off to the locker room,

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Speaker 2: so he'll be back. Evan is also in the locker room,

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01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 2: but he's going to go to practice after so he

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01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 2: won't be back. But Deuce will, and I'm sure he'll

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Speaker 2: make one of his patented entrances.

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Speaker 3: He will, probably while I'm in mid sentence, because I'm

1839
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 3: always talking.

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Speaker 2: Yea, yep.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: So let's get back to these emails here, Robert writes

1843
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 2: in uh, he says, I agree with Fred. The odds

1844
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 2: are disrespectful. The bucks best wins are the Seahawks. They

1845
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 2: didn't really dominate anybody this year. If we all agree

1846
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: these two teams are comparable, no reason the Bucks should

1847
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 2: be minus three. That's strange. Also, who's saying the Pats

1848
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: have had no major injuries? We miss Gonzo for three games, now,

1849
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 2: Remandre Gibson and our number one receiver is injured two.

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01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 3: I mean it's starting to pile up. Wait a minute,

1851
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: starting to pile up. Wait a minute, yep, you miss

1852
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 3: Gonzo for three games.

1853
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: None of those others qualify as major injuries, Like missing

1855
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 3: Mermandra Stevenson for a game is not a major injury.

1856
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 3: Miss Antonio, give your third running back you lost for

1857
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 3: the season. He had a touchdown on a kick off

1858
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 3: your third string running back. That doesn't qualify as a

1859
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 3: major injury. And Kishon Booty is not your number one receiver.

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01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 2: No, dis is your number one receiver.

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Speaker 3: But and he, by the way, missed half a game.

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Speaker 3: I mean Booty was on a Pro Bowl, you know, right, Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I would say that the Patriots received a lot of

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01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 3: respect and only the bare minimum of a home underdog,

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Speaker 3: you know, the home favorite for the Tampa Bay. Yeah,

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01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 3: that's all okay, Like if the Patriots were underdogs by

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01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 3: like eight points, I could totally understand what you're talking about,

1868
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 3: Like what has Tampa done that's so much better than

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01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 3: what the Patriots have done that you're giving them all

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Speaker 3: this respect. They didn't.

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Speaker 2: It's two and a half points.

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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of like the bare minimum for

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01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 3: a home a good home team at you know, being

1874
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 3: favorite went back up to three, went back down to

1875
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 3: two and a half and a half now according to

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01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 3: Matt and the booth, he said it was back down

1877
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Speaker 3: to two and a half.

1878
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: So it's currently at two and a half.

1879
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 3: So if you want to just keep like, does it

1880
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 3: they were I think if they were healthy it would

1881
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 3: be more, but they would be better. Respect, they would

1882
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 3: be better if they were healthy. They'd be the better

1883
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 3: team if they were healthy. I think it's pretty even

1884
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 3: and I think the line shows.

1885
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 2: That Tony in Michigan says people need a reality check.

1886
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 2: He says that in all caps the whole off season,

1887
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 2: I do.

1888
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 3: Like these when they tell us how we're not looking

1889
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 3: at it properly.

1890
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: Okay, the whole off season we discussed how the team

1891
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 2: still needed lots of building blocks and had a lot

1892
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 2: of gaps to fill. We are now out playing our

1893
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 2: talent level, and people want to mortgage the future for

1894
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: divisional round playoff exit. Enjoy the fact that the team

1895
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,919
Speaker 2: is playing well with what's here, hope they can continue

1896
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 2: to play well, and recognize that there is still building

1897
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: to be done. Great teams aren't built at the trade

1898
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: deadline and very rarely is a true impact player available.

1899
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: If you want depth pieces, you can still look at

1900
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: other practice squads to poach. I'm glad the team didn't

1901
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 2: part with valuable assets for a backup linebacker or give

1902
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 2: up a first for Hendrickson.

1903
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 3: So well, the first for Hendrickson was not an option.

1904
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 3: But what what what mortgage of the future was there?

1905
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 2: What?

1906
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 3: What move do you think that they didn't do?

1907
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: What was why?

1908
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. It's everyone thinks it's an either or.

1909
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 3: Right Now, that's that's all I'm saying. No one's suggesting

1910
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 3: they should have given two first round picks for Sauce Gardner.

1911
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 3: Nobody in New England wants that. No one wanted it,

1912
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 3: No one wants it, no one thinks that they should

1913
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 3: have done it. They didn't need a cornerback that badly

1914
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 3: to make a move like that. But you're telling me

1915
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 3: that trading a sixth round pick for you know, you know,

1916
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 3: how about even like one of those pick swaps. You know,

1917
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 3: we'll trade a sixth and you give us a seventh

1918
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 3: for Jerome Ford, that's mortgaging the future just to get

1919
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 3: another NFL caliber running back in. And I'm not saying

1920
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 3: that that is the difference, but that's those are the

1921
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 3: kinds of moves we're talking about. We're not talking about

1922
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 3: Quinn Williams and Sauce Gardner. Patriots have two really good

1923
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 3: defensive tackles and Christian Barmore and Milton Williams. They didn't

1924
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 3: need quinnin w I mean, I would always take Quinn

1925
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 3: and Williams, don't get me wrong, but they didn't necessarily

1926
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 3: need him. We're not looking at trading multiple first round

1927
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 3: picks to make the team better.

1928
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 2: Eric in Maine, I don't understand why we got rid

1929
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 2: of key On White and Dugger then didn't pick up

1930
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 2: a pass rusher or running back. What's your thoughts on this.

1931
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: We have a couple injuries and we're done. I think

1932
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Speaker 2: Fred has this one.

1933
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 3: I think that they were trying, yeah and I for

1934
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 3: whatever reason, it didn't work out.

1935
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: And I think that's trade with us.

1936
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 3: The Tennessee thing, I think makes sense. Amy Adam Strunk

1937
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 3: did not want to trade with Mike Rabel. She's still

1938
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 3: mad at him for whatever reason. I think that's bad

1939
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 3: business on her part. I think if they had a deal,

1940
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 3: a potential deal with the Patriots that made sense for

1941
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 3: the Titans, they should have been interested in it. But

1942
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 3: she felt differently, right, I mean, according to some scuttle butt,

1943
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 3: nobody's really reporting that, but people are alluding to it.

1944
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 3: So you know how I always feel with those things.

1945
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 3: When they's smoke is usually fire. I'll bet you there's

1946
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 3: some accuracy to that.

1947
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 2: Christ and Virginia. Firstly, congratulations to Marine for being the

1948
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 2: biggest climber in the picks pool last week.

1949
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know, good job MARINEES know that myself.

1950
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: A question for the team after the trades by the Jets,

1951
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,640
Speaker 2: including Sauce to the Colts. Does this make any significant

1952
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: difference to our chances of winning either the division or

1953
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: the conference. I think it makes the two Jets games

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01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1955
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 3: Easier, probably, But you weren't losing those games. You're just not, Paul.

1956
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 2: It's just hard to win every game in your division.

1957
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 3: They don't have to. They don't have to beat the

1958
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 3: Jets twice. You don't have to win every game in

1959
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 3: your division.

1960
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: No, but you're gonna Are you gonna beat the Bills twice?

1961
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Okay, so you don't have to

1962
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 3: win every game in your division, but you know that's

1963
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 3: not right there.

1964
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 2: I say there's gonna be losses against AFC East teams.

1965
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bills they're in AFC, so you think they're

1966
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 3: gonna go five and one probably.

1967
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 2: I just think it's hard to do that. I don't.

1968
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:27,799
Speaker 3: I don't think it's hard to be one in seventeens.

1969
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: It's hard to do When Tom Brady was on the team.

1970
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. That's why they beat him. They beat

1971
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 3: both the Jets and the Bills like thirty years in

1972
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 3: a row. But I mean, it wasn't hard for them. Look,

1973
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be hard.

1974
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 2: In the division. There was like one year I think

1975
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 2: they won six and oh.

1976
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting six and oh, Fred, I'll grant you

1977
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 3: a loss to Buffalo, but it's not hard to beat

1978
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 3: a one in seventeen. They should be able to do that.

1979
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 2: Division it makes it a little easier. Division games are tricky.

1980
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, I'm a lost.

1981
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:59,759
Speaker 2: Teams lose to teams lose to It just happens.

1982
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I'm a little worried about. If

1983
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 3: you listen, feel for the league, go ahead. I'm a

1984
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 3: little worried that the head coach and we haven't really

1985
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 3: alluded to a lot of what Mike Rabel had to say.

1986
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 3: You guys just heard him kind of make it a

1987
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 3: lot of mention the last week, week and a half,

1988
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 3: two weeks of the grind and you know ten weeks

1989
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,839
Speaker 3: in a row now, well, week eleven is a short weeks.

1990
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 3: On a Thursday night, I'm a little worried about that.

1991
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 3: Based on the way that Mike is sounding talking about

1992
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 3: the team. What is the number one thing that worries

1993
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 3: you about the roster right now? Most people would say depth.

1994
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 3: So if you're a little short on depth, and now

1995
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 3: you're starting to get a little banged up, and oh,

1996
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 3: by the way, you played ten games in a row,

1997
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 3: eleven games in a row, Thursday night game, now, I

1998
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 3: just don't think the Jets are good enough to do it. No,

1999
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 3: but that would worry me a little bit, given that Paul.

2000
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 3: Division game on a Thursday night would worry me a

2001
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 3: little bit. Paul, And it's a little easier without Sauce

2002
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 3: Gardner and quinnin Williams.

2003
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: Could this Tampa game be a scheduled loss?

2004
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I give the Patriots every I mean,

2005
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 3: maybe I'm overestimating.

2006
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 2: Important this game or the Jets game.

2007
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 3: In my opinion, this game by a lot. Why because

2008
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 3: they're good. You got to show everybody that you can

2009
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 3: beat a good team.

2010
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 2: But in terms of chances to win the division.

2011
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 3: It's irrelevant.

2012
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: Same so never does division record ye come into.

2013
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 3: Play, but you'll have to beat Buffalo to have a

2014
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 3: better division record. Well, and you'll have the tiebreaker over Buffalo.

2015
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about division records.

2016
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 2: I think the Jet you know, I know that Jets

2017
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 2: are half as good as Tampa Bay. But it could

2018
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: be more important.

2019
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying in terms of tiebreakers and

2020
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 3: stuff like that. I'm talking about the team trying to

2021
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 3: be as good as the team can be. I think

2022
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 3: it would be much better for the team to show that,

2023
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 3: you know what, they were right about us. We can't

2024
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 3: when we played the next good team, like you were

2025
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 3: like another opportunity. No, this is a opportunity. They haven't

2026
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 3: really had any. They only had one and they passed

2027
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 3: that one with flying was in Buffalo. All right, so

2028
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 3: now go down to Tampa and do it again.

2029
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 2: Ah, this is a tough one, Paul. It's a stump

2030
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:07,839
Speaker 2: Paul trivia.

2031
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice, Mike says he's got a good one for

2032
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 3: me tomorrow.

2033
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 2: It's less trivia. But anyway, with the recent trades, there

2034
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 2: are now only ten players still with the team that

2035
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 2: were drafted by Bill Belichick. Can you name them?

2036
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 3: The Patriots have ten players that were drafted by Belichick.

2037
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2038
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 3: Uh, Kayshan Boudi, Di Mario Douglas, Micah Wenture, Marcus Jones, four, uh,

2039
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:51,560
Speaker 3: Ramondre Stevenson. One was oh a Christian Gonzalez six.

2040
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 2: One was supposedly on the trade block.

2041
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 3: Oh, Anthony Jennings. Seven that the one you were just talking.

2042
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 2: Yep, there's ten.

2043
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, mmmm uh, that's seven. I don't want to

2044
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 3: waste a mop poo.

2045
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 2: Okay, barringer, all right, Uh that's eight and nine you

2046
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,759
Speaker 2: got did you say, Marcus Jones?

2047
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 3: Yes?

2048
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2049
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 2: What did he miss? One? Two, three, four, five, six,

2050
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 2: seven eight? Barringer? Barber? You said you.

2051
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 3: Said I'd never said bar You never said I never

2052
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 3: said barber. Oh geez, yeah, okay, I never said barbore.

2053
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 3: That's the other one.

2054
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, A wrong answer would have been Brendan's schooler. He

2055
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 2: was signed as an undrafted free agent, not drafted.

2056
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of those, right, Yeah, del

2057
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 3: Pettis I think was one of those. Yep, was he was?

2058
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 3: He last year? He might have been Noo.

2059
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 2: Barton Poland says, I might be in the minority. But

2060
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 2: I'm totally fine with how our trade deadline went. If

2061
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 2: the right deals weren't there at the reasonable prices, I'm

2062
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 2: glad we didn't overspend. Paul mentioned that the Commanders didn't

2063
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 2: mortgage their future, but they literally traded two thirds of

2064
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 2: fourth a fifth the sixth In a twenty twenty six

2065
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 2: second that's not exactly smart resource management. And they're paying

2066
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 2: for it now ironically, and Daniel's injury might actually end

2067
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 2: up helping them.

2068
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 3: They're they're not paying for it. They have the second

2069
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 3: most cap space in football behind you. Well, that's that's

2070
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 3: so that's not mortgage in your future. That's my point.

2071
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,679
Speaker 3: You have plenty of opportunities to build your team. Of course,

2072
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have complained if we made a big move.

2073
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 3: And actually that's not why you guys like to do it.

2074
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 3: You just automatically say it's the right thing to do.

2075
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 2: I'd have liked to added a depth edition, but the

2076
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 2: biggest sellers were never going to trade with us anyway.

2077
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:49,719
Speaker 2: In addition, plenty of contenders did absolutely nothing. And let's

2078
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 2: not act like teams were snatching away players that our

2079
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 2: positions of need. If almost none of those realistic depth

2080
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 2: targets moved elsewhere, it probably means that asking prices were

2081
01:33:59,200 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 2: just too steep.

2082
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 3: So do you think that the Patriots roster is as

2083
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 3: good as like everybody else's? That all the contenders like

2084
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 3: Kansas City, Buffalo, So do you think maybe they had

2085
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 3: less of an need? Yeah, and again I'm not I

2086
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 3: started the whole show by saying this, and I stay

2087
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 3: with it. I am not upset in any way, shape

2088
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 3: or form that the Patriots didn't I don't think that

2089
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 3: the trade deadline is necessarily a huge avenue to do this,

2090
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 3: Like you know, put the whole put you over the

2091
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 3: top kind of argument. Now you can make an argument

2092
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 3: the Colts made that kind of a swing. They acquired

2093
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 3: a guy they badly needed because of their situation in

2094
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 3: the secondary was probably going to be their undoing if

2095
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 3: they didn't make a significant move. But I'm not upset

2096
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,600
Speaker 3: that the Patriots didn't make a move. But I'm just

2097
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 3: glad that Bart, because that was a good balanced email

2098
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 3: because at least he admits if the Patriots had traded

2099
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 3: for Draymont Jones, you said that they were they they

2100
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 3: inquired about. If the Patriots had traded, say, I don't know,

2101
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 3: a fourth round pick for Draymond Jones, No, I would

2102
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 3: be sitting here saying I can't believe that they mortgaged

2103
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 3: their future and did this. You'd be excited that they

2104
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 3: added at a position that you think that they need

2105
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 3: help at, right right. So just that's why I like

2106
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 3: the way Bart said it. He was honest they didn't

2107
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 3: do anything. He's okay with it. And if they had

2108
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 3: done something, he would have been okay with that too.

2109
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 3: That's honesty. I appreciate that.

2110
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,839
Speaker 2: Eldred in North Carolina is on the line. What's up, Eldred?

2111
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 3: Rashid Shaheed online two?

2112
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 2: What's up, hey, Paul?

2113
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 11: Yes, sir, would you a little bit? I wish that

2114
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,520
Speaker 11: he didn't get some depth like a corner or linebacker

2115
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:51,599
Speaker 11: or maybe you know somewhere that like he just said,

2116
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 11: I were about to live about the ten weeks grind

2117
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 11: and what it is, but they didn't, so I just got.

2118
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 7: To go with it.

2119
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,719
Speaker 11: But there was a report out there from a past

2120
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 11: cap and lock On Patriots about no, well, well whatever

2121
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 11: the lady from Tennessee did tell everybody did not trade

2122
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 11: with Gray.

2123
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, I told you, I said that everybody. There

2124
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 3: are a lot of people who have alluded to it.

2125
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 3: No one's reporting it, but there has been a lot

2126
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 3: of allusions to the fact that the Titans were unwilling

2127
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 3: to trade with the Patriots, right because of Amy Adamson.

2128
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 11: A part of them guys that they're they're reporting it.

2129
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean I maybe not do what you

2130
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,640
Speaker 3: call but I read it originated not reporting it.

2131
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 8: Okay, my question is this This was word mean the

2132
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:45,719
Speaker 8: most by Tampa Bay defense. Okay, it's our line, missus

2133
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 8: stunt Drake speeding up.

2134
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 11: Drake look like like like that rookie whatever that was

2135
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 11: worried me. And then our defense covering Abukah and everybody else.

2136
01:36:57,960 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 8: And take it off the air and tell me how

2137
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 8: you think we might be able to pick and I'll

2138
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 8: take it from there.

2139
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 3: Now, it's a concern. Thanks Eldred, Thanks he it's a concern.

2140
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 3: I mean, Tampa's got fifteen sacks in their last three games.

2141
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 3: The Patriots have allowed twelve sacks in their last two.

2142
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 3: I don't think all of those sacks are on the

2143
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 3: Patriots offensive line, but I think more of them than

2144
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 3: have been credited. I think everybody it's now open season

2145
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 3: on Drake May takes too many sacks. It's his fault.

2146
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 3: I think the reason that Drake May takes all those

2147
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 3: sacks is because he's making all these plays. That's carrying

2148
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 3: your offense. And I think if you ask him to just,

2149
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 3: you know, not do that anymore, I think your offense

2150
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 3: is going to take a hit.

2151
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 2: I agree Curtis and Saint Louis. Personally, I believe the

2152
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 2: Patriots will definitely make the playoffs this year. Not sure

2153
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 2: if you guys agree or not.

2154
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 3: Larger I strongly agree.

2155
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 2: My larger question is how likely is it that they

2156
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 2: win the division? I charted out the remainder of the

2157
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 2: season for both Bills and Patriots, my predictions on their

2158
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 2: win lost totals. Ultimately, I have the Patriots falling short

2159
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 2: to Buffalo by one game. Me too, us not taking

2160
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 2: the division this year. Wanted your thoughts and he's got

2161
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 2: it laid out if you're interested. But he's got the

2162
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,719
Speaker 2: Patriots ending the season at twelve and five in Buffalo

2163
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:09,759
Speaker 2: at thirteen and four.

2164
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Patriots could go eleven and six,

2165
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 3: But that's me. That's my low water mark, eleven and

2166
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 3: six because I always think the Fred kirsch theory. As

2167
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 3: much as I bicker with you, the Fred Kirscht theory

2168
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 3: is accurate. You always lose a game you don't expect

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01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 3: to lose, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, if they go four and four the rest of

2171
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 2: the way, they're eleven and six, right.

2172
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,919
Speaker 3: But I just looked at it as like people, probably

2173
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 3: I'm assuming he has the win loss there. I assuming

2174
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 3: he has Buffalo and Baltimore's losses.

2175
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,879
Speaker 2: He's got Tampa Bay as a loss, he's got Buffalo

2176
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 2: as a loss, and he's got Baltimore as a loss.

2177
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so those are the only three losses he has.

2178
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 2: But what does that.

2179
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:40,719
Speaker 1: Tell you, though?

2180
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 2: Are you happy about that?

2181
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 3: Because see, I would rather look like I'd rather lose

2182
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 3: to the Jets. This is what I'm saying to you. Like,

2183
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 3: I think it tells you more of your capability. But whatever,

2184
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 3: when I think the Fred Kirsch theory of you always

2185
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 3: lose a game, you don't expect to lose, right, you know?

2186
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 3: And you know, like the Giants Monday night game, to

2187
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:00,080
Speaker 3: me is probably not a person in New England and

2188
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 3: thinks there's any chance the Patriots lose that game. I

2189
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 3: think that will be a dogfight.

2190
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 2: You're looking ahead to the bye.

2191
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 3: I think the Giants have played reasonably well since Jackson

2192
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 3: Dard has been their quarterback. I think they've had a

2193
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,640
Speaker 3: chance and most of the games that he's played, so

2194
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 3: I think they'll have a chance that And listen, Cincinnati

2195
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 3: is putting probably going to give you a shootout. You

2196
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 3: haven't been in one of those yet. How do you

2197
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 3: react to him? So I'm telling you, this is eleven

2198
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 3: and six to me. But that's that's it. Fred I

2199
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 3: don't see worse than eleven and six, and I just

2200
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 3: have more faith that Buffalo has been here and done

2201
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 3: this before and they'll find a way. They have a

2202
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 3: handful of difficult games still. I think they play I

2203
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 3: think they played the Eagles right who buff Buffalo, they

2204
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 3: have their their I think they have a handful of

2205
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 3: difficult games left.

2206
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 2: They've got Miami, have Tampa, They've got Tampa Bay after that,

2207
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 2: then they have Houston.

2208
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,679
Speaker 3: Houston will be a tough game, that's a good defense,

2209
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 3: and they should be Cincinnati shootout than us, Cleveland, Philadelphia

2210
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 3: and the Jets. So they have a handful of difficult games.

2211
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 3: But I think that they have been in this situation

2212
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 3: before and they sort of know how to handle it

2213
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 3: a little bit more. But that doesn't mean that it's

2214
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 3: a lot And I think it could come down to

2215
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 3: just the one game. If if the Patriots can hold

2216
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 3: Serve at home and beat Buffalo, then Buffalo has to

2217
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:18,719
Speaker 3: finish with a better record than you to win the division.

2218
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 3: Then that tiebreaker comes into play. The tiebreaker right now

2219
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 3: doesn't matter because they have to play again. But if

2220
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,640
Speaker 3: the Patriots were to win twice, that takes the tiebreaker.

2221
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,600
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yep, that could That's I

2222
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 3: think that game is going to ultimately decide things.

2223
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see, let's go back to the phones, Kevin.

2224
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 2: Kevin's in San Francisco.

2225
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 9: Hey, Kevin, Hey, guys, how are we doing?

2226
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 2: Hey?

2227
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 20: Just a couple of comments. I'm not overly upset that

2228
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 20: they didn't make any moves and mortgage the future, as

2229
01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 20: they say, but I do think that letting kee On

2230
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 20: White and Doug or go without knowing that you can

2231
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 20: make feels is a failure at the front office level.

2232
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 2: Look say that again, Kevin.

2233
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 20: I think it's a failure at the front office that

2234
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,720
Speaker 20: you let two pieces that are at least back up

2235
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 20: in casey of injury and you don't have a meeting

2236
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 20: with which to replace them, especially on the on the

2237
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 20: defensive end.

2238
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 9: Front, I think that's a failure.

2239
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 20: So anyway, but moving beyond that, look the teams. The

2240
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 20: team's overachieving this year. I'm going to enjoy it and

2241
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 20: see what happens. But in reality, I think this team's

2242
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 20: going to be at best nine to eight next year

2243
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 20: because they've just got so many holes. So look, I'm

2244
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:46,799
Speaker 20: enjoying it ride the waves. But you know, I'm not necessarility.

2245
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 20: I'm not so bullish on the front office as far

2246
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 20: as how they address this.

2247
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's fair.

2248
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I I'm just not as I'm just not

2249
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 3: upset about it. I really maybe I sound like playing

2250
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 3: your side of the street, and I'm just like, you know,

2251
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 3: I'm happy no matter what. But I just didn't see

2252
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 3: a lot of difference making opportunities. I'm sure there was

2253
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 3: a death piece or two that they could have added,

2254
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:13,680
Speaker 3: but how much better would those options have been than

2255
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 3: what you have in your system already?

2256
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,600
Speaker 2: What do you think about his assertion that it was

2257
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 2: a failure of the front office to not have replacements

2258
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 2: ready for Keon White and Kyle Duggar. I mean, Douck,

2259
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 2: you think they did?

2260
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 3: I think they do. Yeah, I think they They took

2261
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 3: those guys jobs away from them.

2262
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 2: Right, Woodson was playing ahead of Dugger, right, I.

2263
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 3: Mean Dougeran if Jalen Hawkins didn't get hurt, Douger would

2264
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 3: have continued to play like less than five snaps a game. Yeah,

2265
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 3: he wouldn't have played. He had those two games where

2266
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 3: he played the whole game because he was so like,

2267
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 3: you're just looking at it as another guy gets hurt again.

2268
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 3: It's fair. His criticism is fair. I'm not beating up

2269
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 3: on that take. Just yeah, they're missing a third safety,

2270
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 3: They're missing a you know, a throw to edge rusher.

2271
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams that are missing depth pieces,

2272
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 3: you know.

2273
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 2: Yep. Let's see Gavin Wright saying, why didn't they at

2274
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 2: least get a safety or linebacker to help manage the

2275
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 2: middle of the field, as this is clearly one huge

2276
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 2: weakness of the team. Is there anything they can do

2277
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 2: to limit this with any of the guys they have.

2278
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 2: I'm very fussy and stressed every game due to this challenge.

2279
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 2: In addition to no pass rush. According to Evan, they

2280
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 2: do have a pass rush.

2281
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they have a great pass rush.

2282
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 3: I will say that, and I understand, Like, so this

2283
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 3: is like, this is my problem with like the inundation,

2284
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 3: with all these numbers. You watch the game and you

2285
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:47,719
Speaker 3: do not see opposing quarterbacks being affected all that often

2286
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,640
Speaker 3: by the Patriots, do you?

2287
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 7: No?

2288
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree.

2289
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 3: And I'm not fixated on the sack total. I'm just

2290
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,679
Speaker 3: talking about how many times the quarterback is just forced

2291
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 3: to dump it off because he's under pressure. I don't

2292
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 3: see that happen a lot. I mean, I think that

2293
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 3: it's telling that their two best pass rushers per se

2294
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:10,719
Speaker 3: are defensive tackles.

2295
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 2: Yep.

2296
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:13,879
Speaker 3: Like they're the guys to me that win their battles

2297
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:16,640
Speaker 3: more often than not. Chase On has been active, and

2298
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 3: he's been good, but they don't have elite pressure coming

2299
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 3: off the edge.

2300
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 2: Sam and Easton writes and I wrote in last week

2301
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 2: about the weather impacting May's passing ability. Having been at

2302
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 2: the game, I can tell you the win was much

2303
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 2: more of a factor than those at home might think.

2304
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 2: From our bird's eye view in the upper two hundreds,

2305
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 2: it looked like some of those incomplete deep passes were

2306
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 2: taken by the wind. I think it's more of a

2307
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,719
Speaker 2: topic of discussion than people are letting on. I'm concerned

2308
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 2: we might lose some of the elite deep passing element

2309
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 2: of May's game down the stretch, at least for the

2310
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 2: home games. With five to seven mile per hour wins

2311
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 2: in eighty three degree weather forecasting for Sunday's game at Tampa,

2312
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm predicting a bounce back deep ball passing performance by Drake.

2313
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm willing to bet he as another subpar game by

2314
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 2: his standards on Thursday Night football against the Jets in

2315
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 2: the swirling Foxborough night winds thirtieth degree early forecast. Also,

2316
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 2: do we want to see Drake put on the long sleeves? Now?

2317
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 2: I know it's a mental thing for players, but I

2318
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 2: want to see him staying warm and unbothered like Brady

2319
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 2: always did.

2320
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know about how comfortable he is. Whatever

2321
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 3: he wants to do to be comfortable is fine. I

2322
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 3: did not see the inaccurate deep passes that he's talking

2323
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 3: about on Sunday. I saw him be skittish in the

2324
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 3: pocket in the second half after getting stripsacked. I didn't

2325
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 3: see his accuracy. Go, I saw his decision making go,

2326
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 3: that's just me. I didn't see And you know, I

2327
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 3: saw him drop a beautiful pass twenty yards downfield to

2328
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 3: Tomio Douglas. I saw him with an absolute dime to

2329
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs in the fourth quarter on a deep ball.

2330
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 3: So I didn't see this inaccuracy caused by the wind

2331
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 3: on Sunday. I think his arm is largely immune to

2332
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 3: the wind. I think he has that good of an.

2333
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:00,759
Speaker 2: Is it that windy?

2334
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 3: No, I'm sure he's right. He was probably in the stands.

2335
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 3: It was probably windy er on the field, and we

2336
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 3: knew sitting in the press box that I totally get

2337
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 3: what he's saying. I just didn't see the ball affected

2338
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 3: by the wind. I didn't see it affecting Pennix's throws either.

2339
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 2: What about that extra point kick?

2340
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 3: That was Yeah, I don't think that effect.

2341
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 2: It didn't look like it was just a bad kid.

2342
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 3: It was wide the whole way.

2343
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 2: By the way, were you watching the game? I think

2344
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 2: it was the Cowboys game. I forgot.

2345
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 3: I didn't see any I didn't see any.

2346
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 2: Man. It looked like a bad field goal. You know,

2347
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:34,600
Speaker 2: it was above the uprights, and they said that it

2348
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 2: like if that had hit the upright, it would have

2349
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 2: definitely gone out because it was three quarters of the

2350
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 2: way to the outside of the upright.

2351
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 3: What did the announcers say anything?

2352
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 2: They kind of agreed, like, oh, I thought that was

2353
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 2: not good.

2354
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 3: Who made it? You don't even know which team? Yeah,

2355
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 3: I'm half in a fox it was. I didn't see

2356
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 3: any of the Monday night game this week.

2357
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 2: I was out. Maybe a viewer can help me out.

2358
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think now with Aubrey, I think I

2359
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 2: wasn't the Cowboys. I think it was no.

2360
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 3: Aza guy Chad Ryland. It might have been Ryland, right,

2361
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 3: he's the Cardinals, Stutter.

2362
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 2: Russell and Florida from Arkansas. Is there a chance that

2363
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 2: Rabel and Wolf viewed most of the players that were

2364
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 2: available for trade as possible targets and free agency in

2365
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 2: the off season, potentially getting someone they want plus keeping

2366
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 2: their picks. Does the defense run more? Okay, so that's

2367
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 2: one question, like we're not going to give it. We

2368
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 2: mightn't have in the off season.

2369
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 3: I don't rule anything out, but that doesn't really do

2370
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 3: anything for you. Right, you need them, you know, if

2371
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 3: you need them, you need them now?

2372
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 7: Ye?

2373
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 2: Does the defense run more man coverage and maybe have

2374
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 2: someone spying Mayfield? Did you guys see Pete Carroll fail

2375
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 2: the two point conversion last Sunday? Seems he ran the time.

2376
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 2: He's got three questions in here?

2377
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 3: What was that? I did see the the two point

2378
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 3: conversion got knocked down at the line. Ye, Yes, I

2379
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 3: did see that. I was listening. It was that just

2380
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 3: like a different one, stand alone, different question. Yeah, And

2381
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 3: Pete did have that dumb to look on his face

2382
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 3: that we know all no in love from the.

2383
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl says seems he ran the same play from

2384
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 2: super Bowl forty nine and has not learned his lesson.

2385
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know, honestly, I was listening to it

2386
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 2: on the radio.

2387
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, it kind of.

2388
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,879
Speaker 2: I love. I love driving home after a one o'clock

2389
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 2: game because we get to listen to like there's a

2390
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 2: red zone version.

2391
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 3: I do the same thing losers.

2392
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 2: And what they do is when whoever is on offense,

2393
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 2: they go to the that team's home broadcast. You think

2394
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 2: we're Homer's if you think so, lots of Homer. Oh

2395
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 2: my god.

2396
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 3: I've said this in the past. I said this to

2397
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 3: Matt Smith, you know, like I because I've been you know,

2398
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 3: at times I tease and I tease Scott to his face.

2399
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:46,680
Speaker 3: I'm not speaking out of school, you know about that.

2400
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 3: And then I started doing this and I was like,

2401
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 3: I owe you guys an apology, Like it's you guys

2402
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 3: are much more that. There's like three or four that

2403
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 3: are reasonably balanced. Some of the rest of them, it's

2404
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 3: like all first names, it's all we it's all the

2405
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 3: reps killing us. It's like it's like Fred on steroids

2406
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 3: doing the games. It's unbelievable. Tommy Hinsen, I can't tell

2407
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:08,679
Speaker 3: you how much the first name thing bugs me. Yeah,

2408
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:11,560
Speaker 3: you don't like that, Like it's so unprofessional.

2409
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 2: If you're the home team, like I could see like

2410
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 2: the home like Vrabel calling the Mario Douglas pop.

2411
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 3: No, No, that's that's different. And it's also and it's

2412
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 3: also different if a guy has like sort of you know,

2413
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 3: if he just says Calevon Okay, I know who you're

2414
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 3: talking about, right, Okay, But when it's you know, Drew

2415
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 3: and Jim, like I don't know who you're talking about, right,

2416
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 3: And that's like they all just use first names like

2417
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 3: they're all buddies. That to me is what it is.

2418
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:43,640
Speaker 3: We're friends. Like, No, you're the announcer. You're supposed to

2419
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,760
Speaker 3: be professional, and you're so right, Like some of those

2420
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,480
Speaker 3: broadcasts are unbelievable.

2421
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 2: It's so funny. Do you think Mayfield is good enough

2422
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 2: where you need to spy him? I don't think. I don't.

2423
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 2: I don't look at wasting a resource on that.

2424
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 3: No, not if it affects the defense and any way,

2425
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 3: shape or form. He's a guy who's gonna scramble around

2426
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,479
Speaker 3: and he's gonna look to break tackles like it's not.

2427
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 2: About yeah, when he's pressured.

2428
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 3: He's not athletic, he's not fast. No, he's just a gamer.

2429
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 2: Right, I agree, So I wouldn't. I don't think you

2430
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 2: need to spy Baker Mayfield. You need to keep me

2431
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 2: to tackle him.

2432
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to match his toughness because he's not

2433
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 3: gonna you know, if he needs to get a first down,

2434
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 3: that's important. He's going to try to put his shoulder

2435
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 3: down and knock you over.

2436
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:30,799
Speaker 2: Yep, Mike writes in I feel better about the Patriots

2437
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 2: d on rewatch. They gave up twenty three points, but

2438
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 2: seven were a gimme turnover. Absolutely, there was a real

2439
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 2: TD drive and then the eighty five yard that worries Paul.

2440
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 2: I rewatched this drive, and besides two fourth down conversions

2441
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 2: and a bad penalty, the Patriots also had four passes

2442
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 2: defended that could have been interceptions. Now they have to

2443
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 2: make the play, But the stats say Atlanta was wildly

2444
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:53,679
Speaker 2: lucky to get a touchdown.

2445
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 3: I would disagree with the lucky part, but I do

2446
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 3: think you know, you've forced a couple of fourth downs

2447
01:50:59,000 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 3: you were close.

2448
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 2: Look who's back from the locker room?

2449
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 12: What was the moon where the player's friendly to that?

2450
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 13: None of them looked like Devik Henry Hay, Mike, what

2451
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 13: was it like in the locker room?

2452
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 14: What was it like in the locker room?

2453
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 2: We had a we had another submission for Mike. You

2454
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 2: want to play that, Matt.

2455
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:36,640
Speaker 1: Morel do so.

2456
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 2: He so, I feel like I need to do like

2457
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 2: a chick. We thought that one we might play when

2458
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 2: you go into the that's.

2459
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:49,240
Speaker 6: For the locker room, and all the team just starts clapping.

2460
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 2: I think we can get buy in from the team.

2461
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 2: I think so, oh for sure.

2462
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 6: I mean digs, everybody be like, we got to get

2463
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 6: this guy a song when he comes.

2464
01:51:57,920 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 2: By the way, That last one was made by my

2465
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 2: brother Ohn. Sorry, thank you, Billy.

2466
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 5: I appreciate that, like the heavy metal little twist there.

2467
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:07,720
Speaker 5: But yeah, so back from the locker room. Uh, you know,

2468
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 5: I thought the theme from today is the season is

2469
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 5: just starting now.

2470
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 9: Uh.

2471
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 5: A few different players say that, say that, yeah, and

2472
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 5: so they're they're they're kind of glomming onto that. I

2473
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 5: think that was kind of the message to the team today.

2474
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 5: But a lot of respect for you know, Mayfield and

2475
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 5: Tampa and you know, no, Mom, he was talking a

2476
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 5: little bit about coming from Philadelphias, played down there a

2477
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 5: couple of times and just said, you know, you got

2478
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:28,719
Speaker 5: to go down there. You want to win, you gotta

2479
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 5: beat them. They're not going to give you a game

2480
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 5: down there. That was an interesting point.

2481
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 3: But otherwise, you know, it's.

2482
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 2: Just I don't know.

2483
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 5: I didn't love all the questions today. Like one of

2484
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:38,639
Speaker 5: the questions like seven and two? Do you ever think

2485
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 5: to seven and two? Do you ever think you'd do

2486
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:42,320
Speaker 5: you ever think you'd be this good when you sign here?

2487
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 4: Like they're good?

2488
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 2: Guy, it's we ten, Like what are we talking about?

2489
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 3: I mean I think if you asked all these people

2490
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 3: individually to go down the schedule in the first nine games,

2491
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:56,760
Speaker 3: I mean maybe they were said four right right, Like

2492
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:58,200
Speaker 3: they beat Buffalo. I get it.

2493
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 5: That was an upset. Yeah, there were no other upsets. Yeah, yeah,

2494
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 5: I don't know some of them. I was just scratching

2495
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 5: my head a little bit. But heard from Stuph Diggs

2496
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 5: of course as always, which just he's always ready to go.

2497
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 5: We walk into the locker room and stuffs just ready.

2498
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 5: Even the players you know around him, clear out a

2499
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 5: little bit. But Will Campbell, well, they asked a little

2500
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 5: bit about appearing at the Celtics game.

2501
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 6: He said it was the first NBA game he's ever

2502
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 6: been to, so.

2503
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 5: Not a bad way to take it in. And they

2504
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 5: were like, well, what did you think when everyone was

2505
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 5: cheering for you? He's like, yeah, they were cheering for

2506
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 5: him and pointing over at Drake. Uh so, Will, it.

2507
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:30,599
Speaker 2: Was funny, Paul. One question, though, I think you would.

2508
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 5: Have absolutely loved it, was you know, just what made

2509
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 5: you want to make that tackle?

2510
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 2: What made you want to make it? I play for

2511
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 2: an NFL.

2512
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 3: That's professional football player. The guy with the ball right,

2513
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 3: he needs to be on the ground so the play stops.

2514
01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 3: Like do you like understand what I'm saying? How we

2515
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 3: lose our minds over these things.

2516
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 5: I think we lost our mind on that one for sure.

2517
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 5: But you know he kind of chok.

2518
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 2: A great play, terrific motivation. Yeah, that's my job.

2519
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 3: He didn't like Again, I know, I make light of

2520
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 3: the whole Benjamin Watson, he didn't traverse eighty yards. It

2521
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 3: was at the thirty yard line. Yeah, he was like

2522
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,040
Speaker 3: three yards behind it when the guy picked up the

2523
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 3: ball and he got him at the five or six whatever,

2524
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:21,879
Speaker 3: it was terrific play by Will Campbell.

2525
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 2: What else is he supposed to do?

2526
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 3: Just watch like you could say he missed the tackle,

2527
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:30,799
Speaker 3: maybe be better next time, but who's not chasing?

2528
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 5: I know that's do your job, Do your job right.

2529
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:34,960
Speaker 5: He's got a pretty good sense of hum about it, though.

2530
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 5: But he did say he he plays some defense when

2531
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 5: he was in high.

2532
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 6: School, and we're like, oh, you know, like what position

2533
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 6: he plays, Like, we're not going to talk about that,

2534
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 6: so I don't know.

2535
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 2: It's funny, but it.

2536
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 5: Seems like he's an offensive lineman through and through. And

2537
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 5: then we hear from christ like him. He just has

2538
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 5: like that little it's on a corner, but it's kind

2539
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 5: of like near a space, so he could just he

2540
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 5: just kind.

2541
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 6: Of pops his elbow up against the thing.

2542
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 5: Listens to his demeanor, very relaxed, doesn't say more than

2543
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 5: he needs to, you know, measured with the way he speaks,

2544
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 5: he's done.

2545
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 2: He's done a great job in the locker room.

2546
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 5: And Christian Gonzalez as well spoke and you know, some

2547
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 5: nice words for Abuka, and you know, he's always kind

2548
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 5: of get.

2549
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 3: The impression that he's expecting to see a lot of him.

2550
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 5: Didn't get that impression necessarily, but I was kind of

2551
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 5: around the corner and I was kind of doing like

2552
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 5: like one of these, because you know how the scrums are,

2553
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 5: you gotta have to squeeze in.

2554
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 3: There, so you should get more respect. Two songs.

2555
01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, but it's an active day, I say.

2556
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 5: Jory Epstein from Yaho Sports National, yeaho sports writer was here.

2557
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 6: So he always asked me if there's more of a

2558
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 6: Jory Epstein.

2559
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 5: She's been around, heard that name in my life. Yeah,

2560
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 5: she's I mean, she covers the NFL. She's one of

2561
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 5: the national folks. So he always asked me if people

2562
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 5: are you know, sizable media contingent today.

2563
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 6: Definitely some new cameraman as well. But you see some

2564
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 6: of the national guys making a stop too.

2565
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I on Evan Evan.

2566
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 5: I struggled to see Evan today. I was, well, this

2567
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 5: is another part of it too. I was buried in

2568
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 5: this stuff. Yeah he was still today, but I was

2569
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 5: buried in the Steph Digs press conference and someone parted.

2570
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 2: And so it was like also just pour oh ho

2571
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 2: ho ho, let's wrap it up.

2572
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 5: Step But you know, some of these these scrums get

2573
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 5: going and it feels like you're you know, reaching that,

2574
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 5: like all right, it's starting to wrap.

2575
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 6: Up and then sorry, coming to late, but you know,

2576
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 6: what do you think of the bucks this week?

2577
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 2: And it's like, bro, apologize if you've been, We've been.

2578
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 2: You know, you can't come in and ask like a

2579
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 2: super general question.

2580
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 5: But you know, sometimes they tend to like drag on

2581
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 5: and on it and everyone's like okay, okay.

2582
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:30,360
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.

2583
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 2: So good day, busy day. It seems like it's gonna

2584
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 2: be short practice today.

2585
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 5: I know we're doing our interview with Mac Hollins a

2586
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 5: little early, so getting out there, see some guys dressing

2587
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 5: up getting ready for some of the little little bit

2588
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 5: cold weather there.

2589
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 2: So good t me see what the temp is right now?

2590
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 2: What do you got? Uh fifty five?

2591
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 5: I mean not Travian Henderson. I was walking back right

2592
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 5: in back of Travian Henderson. He had just a shell on,

2593
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 5: no shirt underneath. Like he seems like cold doesn't with

2594
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 5: like the full face, but that's kind of barm Yeah,

2595
01:56:58,440 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 5: it's cool.

2596
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 2: It's really windy out though the wind is supposed to

2597
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 2: pick out north wind coming down to make it cooler.

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01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 2: The Autumn Raider I actually just got a text from

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01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:15,400
Speaker 2: my electric company and it says we are we are

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01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 2: prepared for damaging wind gusts expected Wednesday into Thursday.

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01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 3: Supposed to be up to like fifty sixty miles an

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01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 3: hour Northeastern.

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01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 14: Yeah, fifty five to sixty six is what they're saying,

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01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 14: miles per hour.

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01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:27,000
Speaker 2: I think it's just bringing in cold weather.

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01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 6: Well, tis the tis the season.

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01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a Paul. Sorry, Paul, I had it.

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01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 2: No one's more miserable than paulots and prayers to Paul.

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01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 3: He had to put his heat on on Monday fourth.

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01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,800
Speaker 3: I going home from work Monday, it was fifty five

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01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 3: from my house.

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01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I think it's maybe we need

2613
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 2: to put it up a little. That's like a Onesie

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01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 2: Regal blanket.

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01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 4: Just put it on.

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01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 3: She was working and I texted her that's pretty much

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01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 3: the same thing I texted you.

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01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:54,600
Speaker 5: And she was like, Okay, it's pretty proud. He should

2619
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 5: be pretty proud of yourself. You make it a November

2620
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 5: fourth without heat around here, that's pretty impressive.

2621
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 2: All right. Well, listen, busy day in the locker room.

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01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 2: Teams off to practice, will be getting a practice report today.

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01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 3: And Rabel said, no, Stevenson, LS and Booty for practice today.

2624
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 3: We never really got to recap the Mike's press conference,

2625
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:18,400
Speaker 3: but he didn't mention that those those three guys would

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01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 3: not be practicing today. So I would say, then you

2627
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:22,320
Speaker 3: need to be prepared that those three guys will not

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01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 3: be available on Sunday.

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01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 1: Sure.

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01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's interesting the message that you mentioned this

2631
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,920
Speaker 2: is the start of the season. Interesting message because he's

2632
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 2: brought up grind, trying to get the guy's mindset like, okay,

2633
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 2: fresh start instead of this is a continuation of nine

2634
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 2: games like we're starting now. Kind of I know it's

2635
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 2: mental tricks it you know, it doesn't really affect your body,

2636
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 2: but mentally, if you take on that mindset, maybe you

2637
01:58:51,640 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 2: have you know, you feel a little refreshed. Yeah, maybe,

2638
01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 2: you know, I know the buy is a long way away.

2639
01:58:58,280 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 3: It breaks up.

2640
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:00,960
Speaker 5: Kind of nice though, because you've got eight games left.

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01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 5: You got four and four. Yeah, you got the buye

2642
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 5: in the middle, so you break it up into into chunks. Obviously,

2643
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 5: the next what eight days is going to be a

2644
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 5: grind for them. Two games in the next eight days,

2645
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:12,080
Speaker 5: but you know, and then you got to travel.

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01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 2: Imagine if Bill was here during this stretch. Yeah, Oh,

2647
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:16,160
Speaker 2: he'd be.

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01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah for very long, way, very long.

2649
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 11: What's that for?

2650
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 2: Every long week, there's a show week.

2651
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 3: But I do think Rabel's playing a little at that

2652
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 3: with nobody.

2653
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 2: They're all up against us.

2654
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:30,400
Speaker 3: This is disrespect the world, disrespectful that we got such

2655
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 3: a late buy and they're coming. He also mentioned they're

2656
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 3: coming on they've had a couple of days off. He

2657
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 3: mentioned in Tampa.

2658
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 2: Bad line, I don't want to trade with us. We all,

2659
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 2: we got we all we need just remember that Hatreots fans.

2660
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 2: All right, we'll see you tomorrow.

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01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:49,840
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01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:51,640
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01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:54,440
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01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:57,160
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01:59:57,160 --> 01:59:59,600
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01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:01,800
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Speaker 6: That's a lot