1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron and Nanian The Car Doctor, nationally 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: recognized auto expert trusted by Mechanics, Weekend wrenchers and vehicle 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: owners alike. Ron brings over forty years of hands on 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: experience and deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Join The Conversation live every Saturday from two to four 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: pm Eastern by calling eight five to five five six 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: five six zero ninety nine hundred, your direct line to 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: honest answers and practical advice. Looking for more, visit cardoctorshow 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: dot com for past episodes, repair tips, and Ron's latest insights, 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: and be sure to subscribe to The Car Doctor YouTube 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: channel for exclusive videos, real repair footage and more. Now 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: start your enginies. The Car Doctor is in the garage 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: and ready to take your call. 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: You know, I think one of the hardest things about 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: doing this radio show, and I'm not sure if it 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: even comes across, is the frustration of repairing cars certain weeks, 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: and I know you like to hear it. I know 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: you love the stories from the shop, and I try 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: to keep them as factual as I can, and as 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: you know, I want you to, you know, have the 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: pain of frustration and the sweat. 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: And the agony. And you know, this. 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: Story just comes to mind because it was another full 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 2: week of auto repair. And you know I always tell 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: you full moons at the shop and full weeks of 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: auto repair somehow combined to be some of the strangest 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: weeks ever. 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't know what you're walking into. 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: You know, you're you're kind of playing ambush and you 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: don't even know it's around the corner, and you just 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: you just never see it coming. And it started like 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: that on Monday. On Monday, I walked into the shop 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: at a quarter to eight and there were two people 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: already there, three counting carpenter Bob because Carpenter Bob opens 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: for us. And the first one was Steven. Now I 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: haven't seen Steven in two and a half years. I 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: haven't seen the car, only saw the car once. And 39 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: Steven had no appointment, and I was I listened to 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: what his concern was and I kind of knew it 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: because I had read the email that he had sent 42 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: me over the weekend and I told him, I said, Steven, 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: I don't have time today. I'm sorry, there's nothing I 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: can really do. You know, there's nothing I can really 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: do to you know, create this, you know, to help 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: you this week, I said, it's it's I understand, you've 47 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: got an oil leak. You've got to get it looked at. 48 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: You know, it's an oil leak. It's important and get solved. 49 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: And he went on his way. He wasn't happy. But 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 2: you know, listen, you've got people that are scheduled, You've 51 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: got people that are you know, lined up, and they've 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: taken their time. And your time when you come into 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: a repair shop is very valuable. It should be retreated 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: with respect by the repair shop. It shouldn't be taken 55 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 2: for granted. Part of the problem too, was Steve. He 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: even is driving a ten year old Cadillac with one 57 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand miles on it, and I, in 58 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: my opinion, he's not taken proper care of it. He's 59 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: getting his oil changes done at quick loops, maybe in 60 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: an attempt to save money. 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: Boggles my mind. You can't drive a ten year old car. 62 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: You can't drive a five year old car and not 63 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: take it to a mechanic on a regular basis. I 64 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: think there's just things that a good qualified, you know, 65 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: not a hack, not somebody dishonest, but somebody reliable, somebody 66 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: you've built a relationship with, will do a lot to 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: take good care of that car. So now Steven's faced 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: with having to deal with an oil leak that he 69 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: saysn't guessing. 70 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go back to. 71 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: The dealer who I've been going to, but I'm not 72 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: happy with, which I never understand that statement either. If 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: you're not happy, why do you go back? Because the 74 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: conversation is, well, Ron, You're the only mechanic I trust. 75 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: My first thought is where have you been for two 76 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: and a half years. I just it leaves me dumbfound 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: that I. 78 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: Can never understand that thought process. Jeff was there. Jeff 79 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: had dropped off. 80 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: He was in the process of dropping off twenty eleven 81 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: e S three point fifty Lexus with more than a 82 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: few miles on it, and the right rear parking brake 83 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: cable had failed. It corroded into the aluminum bracket that 84 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: holds it to the backing plate, and the backing plates 85 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: are rotting away and it's becoming slowly a rear brake 86 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: overhaul and parking brake cables and backing plates and a 87 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: bunch of things that were in the process of We've 88 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: gotten all the parts, but now we're in the process 89 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: of replacing. Next week in the shop, we're going to 90 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: have to gut the interior because to replace the two 91 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: parking brake cables, the center console has to come up. 92 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: To get the center console up, the seats have to 93 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: come out, the carpet has to come out. You know, 94 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna be looking at bare floor, so it'll be exciting. 95 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: And you know that's on the list, and you know 96 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: that's the car that had an appointment, and that's one 97 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: of the reasons we said to Steve and Steven we 98 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: can't we can't accommodate you this week. 99 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: We've got to look at Jeff. 100 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: But I think the car that sort of was the 101 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 2: surprise was Michael's Jeep. Michael brought us his twenty fifteen 102 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: Jeep Compass. Now we haven't seen Michael's Jeep in two years, 103 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: and the last time we saw it it was about 104 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: the fifty eight thousand mile mark and we said it's 105 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: coming due for a sixty thousand mile service and that 106 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: was the last we saw of it. Well, it's now 107 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: got seventy four thousand miles on it, and it's two years 108 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: later and Michael wants it looked over. Now. 109 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: I haven't seen Michael either. 110 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: We did our conversations by phone, so Ah'm very happy 111 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: to take care of it. 112 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: He scheduled an appointment. We had put the time aside. 113 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: We took the vehicle and did a checklist to it, 114 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: our famous checklist where we looked the car over. 115 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: Stick out your tongue and say, oh, as I. 116 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: Like to say, and we've found a pile of work 117 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: that the vehicle was due for. It was due for 118 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: the sixty thousand mile service. It was overdue for the 119 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: sixty thousand mile service. That wasn't done at sixty thousand 120 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: miles because it now has seventy four thousand miles on it. 121 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: But it also had dry rotted tires. Tires that were 122 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: so badly dry. 123 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: Rotted into the tread that you wonder they're going to 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: make it down to the corner. And I'm probably over exaggerating, 125 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: but I'm very I'm like death on dry rot of tires. 126 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: I don't like dry rot of tires, old batteries, wiper 127 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: blades that are torn. You know, common sense, right, there's 128 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: too many split second decisions you have to make driving 129 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: on any road at forty miles an hour, sixty miles 130 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: an hour, and so on. So you want to make 131 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: sure the equipment's in good working mortar. It's just that important. 132 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: And Michael asked for a you know, give me a 133 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: give me a what do you think it's going to 134 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: take from the hip, And I went, you know, from 135 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: the hip, this is going to be three grand all 136 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: day long tires alignment. It needed some front end work, 137 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: the right front control arm. The ball joint was bad 138 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: and the bushings were cracked in the back of it, 139 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: so that needed to be replaced. It needed some you know, 140 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: drive line fluids. It needed fuel system cleaning, It needed 141 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: an oil change. It needed a pile of work. And 142 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: he said, Okay, do whatever you gotta do, Ron I 143 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: get it. It's it's you know, it's got to be done. 144 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, I said, you know, I need 145 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: a couple of days and we'll go through it. 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 3: So I got approval. 147 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: I had a verbal approval, and I ordered parts, and 148 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: I went about my business and climbed into the pile 149 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: of the rest of the cars that were there for 150 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: a Monday Tuesday morning, the phone rang and it was Michael. 151 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: He was a little confused and concerned at the same 152 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: time about, you know, how did the bill get the 153 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: three thousand dollars because it started as a checklist. 154 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: And I went, well, we had this conversation. 155 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's, it's and I laid it all 156 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: out for him again and I walked them through it 157 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: and yeah, you're right, Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I forgot 158 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: about that. Yep, you're right. Go ahead, do what you 159 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: have to do. 160 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: Okay. 161 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: So I said, you know, I'm probably shooting for you know, tomorrow, 162 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: being finished on Wednesday, because it's already in progress. I'm 163 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: waiting for a couple of more parts to show up 164 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: on this particular Tuesday, and we'll get back into it, 165 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: and you know, between Tuesday and Wednesday it'll be done. 166 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: So the rest of it was pretty uneventful, pretty straightforward. 167 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: We made a couple of executive decisions. We changed a 168 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: few of the tire pressure sensors because two had gone 169 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: bad and we had done one way back when I 170 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: told Danny, I said, let's just change the remaining three. 171 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: Let's get the tire pressure sensors this way, We're four 172 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: brand news or four newer sensors Egles ten years old. 173 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: Because part of what we're supposed to do is manage expectations. 174 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: Part of what we're supposed to do is listen to 175 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: what the customer wants and try and deliver that and 176 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: then more, because that's what a repair shop is there for. 177 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: And you know, it's about building the relationship. It's about, 178 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 2: you know, maintaining that level of trust and responsibility and 179 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: doing the right thing. You know, A very wise man 180 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: once taught me in my younger years, you can't make 181 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: a wrong turn down right street. So we finished the car, 182 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: and the bill that I told Michael was going to 183 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: be between three and four grand turned out to be 184 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: thirty six hundred dollars, and all was well. Michael showed up, 185 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: he paid the bill. I was a little taken aback. 186 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: I don't know why. 187 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: It kind of surprised me because the last time I 188 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: hadn't seen Michael, he was he was walking on his own, 189 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: and this time he came in the door on a walker, And. 190 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: You know, I like Michael. Michael's a good guy. 191 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: He's got good spirit and he's just he's a good guy. 192 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: And I felt bad for him, and we, you know, 193 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: had conversational exchange, and we paid the bill at the counter, 194 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 2: and we helped him get out the door and off 195 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: he goes. Now it's ten minutes to five on Wednesday, 196 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: and Michael comes back in the door five minutes later, 197 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: and I'm in the midst of trying to finish one 198 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: other car and get two other people out the door, 199 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: and he says, you know, Ron, because I had mentioned 200 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: to Michael that I noticed that there is a very 201 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: faint noise from what I believe is the right rear 202 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: wheelbaring coming up. 203 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: I said, it's very hard to detect. 204 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: It only happens over forty five miles an hour, but 205 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: it's there. And I said, if you listen for it, 206 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: you'll hear it. And Michael came back five minutes later 207 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: and he said, I'm not sure if I'm just sensitive 208 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: to noise now or it's because. 209 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: You said it, but you're right. 210 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: I hear this noise and I don't think it's the wheelbaring. 211 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: It's this strange clunking sound. And I, you know, I'm concerned, 212 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: did something you know, go wrong during. 213 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: The repair and it's not. 214 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: You know, it's ever since, right, ever since and he 215 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: didn't say it, but you could tell it was the 216 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: underlying tone. 217 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: So I gotta stop what I'm doing. 218 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 2: We got to go for a ride, and the frustration 219 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: grows because you're trying to finish the day and that 220 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: full moon is peering down at me eerily up in 221 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: the night sky in Waldock, New Jersey, and I'm going hmmm. 222 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: So we go out for a ride. 223 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 2: Danny, I'm going out. I'll be back, Kathy, I'm going 224 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: out answer the phone. And well, it's a little bit 225 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: of a longer tail to make a long story short. 226 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: We went out for our eight minute ride and we're 227 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: coming back to the shop. We didn't hear the noise, 228 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: and I'm about to turn in the driveway and he says, no, no, 229 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: go straight. I just want to do one more thing. 230 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: We go down to the end of the block. We 231 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: make a left turn and we heard the noise and he. 232 00:10:58,559 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: Says, that's it. That's the noise. 233 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: That's the noise I was trying to get you to hear. 234 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: He goes, I didn't hear that before I dropped it off. 235 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: Huh. I go down the end of the next block, 236 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 3: I make a left turn. There's that noise. Again, and 237 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, you know, is. 238 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: There something wrong with the new control arm. You know, 239 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,479 Speaker 2: are the wheels loose? But you know, we're very methodical. 240 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: We torque stick and hand torque everything. And you know, 241 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: we went over the carb with a fine tooth comb 242 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: like we usually do. Went down to the next block. 243 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 2: We made a series of lefts, and we come back 244 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: to the shop on the next to last left turn. 245 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: Michael turns around when he hears the noise. Oh look, 246 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: the walker's hitting the door. When he put his walker 247 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: in the car, he didn't put it in where he 248 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 2: normally puts it, and it's smacking the door. There's a 249 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: lot of frustration that goes into auto repair. I think 250 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: patience is part of the remedy of the process for 251 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: everybody concerned the funny things that go wrong in a 252 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: repair shop, especially on full moon weeks of auto repair. 253 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car Doctor. The phone numbers 254 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 2: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 255 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, Hey, 256 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: let's get over and talk to. 257 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: Bill and Colorado. 258 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: Wait, gmc yukon Philly, Welcome to the Car Doctor once again. 259 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna help you today. 260 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, good to talk to you. Well, I'm having 261 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: a full moon weekend too. So this oh wait, GMC 262 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: ukon XL comes in yesterday. It's got a missfire on 263 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: cylinder four. So I wrestled the engine cover out from 264 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: between the engine and the firewall, and I'm about to 265 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: swap coils when I discovered that the number four the 266 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: coil wire has fallen off the plug. Well there you go, 267 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 4: so plug it back in, fired up, miss fire is gone, 268 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 4: and boom. I get communication codes. Got a U seventy 269 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 4: three U one O one. 270 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: Uh. 271 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 4: Tranny and engine aren't talking to each other. So I 272 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: go through the entire car, I mean grounds. I tried 273 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 4: to follow the wiring as best as I can. I 274 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 4: check all of the all the transmission connectors, look for 275 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 4: water intrusion. There's no corrosion. Everything's clean and tight. Follow 276 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: all the wirings that I might have disturbed when I 277 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: was getting that engine cover out, And ten minutes before 278 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: I get on the call, here I disconnect and reseat 279 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 4: the TCM and ECM connectors and it fires up without codes. 280 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 4: So basically at this point, what I'm looking for is 281 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: if Murphy comes back right after this call and the 282 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: codes pop up. What are the most common culprits for 283 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 4: these guys? 284 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: You know, something between the headlights and the tail lights? 285 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: What what I and I typically do, Billy is the 286 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: first thing I've got. I want to know is when 287 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: when you had the no communication code? Were you able 288 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: to communicate with your scam tool plugged in? Could you 289 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,119 Speaker 2: see the TCM? 290 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 3: Yes, so it was there. So it's an intermittent. 291 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: Well at the same time to the TCM, TCM wasn't 292 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: talking to the engine. 293 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: How do you know that? 294 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: How do you know that just from the code? 295 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 5: So? 296 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: Uh, intermittent is fair. But that's what that's what the 297 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 4: codes were saying. 298 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: Well, you know my point is, do this if you 299 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: unplug the TCM, right, if you look at it, look 300 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: at a wiring diary. 301 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: Can you get you get a wiring diagram in front 302 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: of you? 303 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: Uh? 304 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: I so serial data? 305 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,239 Speaker 2: Look at serial data? Serial data? If I'm not mistaken? 306 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: Is pin six and seven out of the TCM? Okay? 307 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: Right? 308 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: And ground is the last pin? I don't remember the 309 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: pin number for whatever reason, but you know you can 310 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: go through. Do you have one of those ALDL connectors 311 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: where you can sit there, plug it in at the 312 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: OBED two connector and look at data communication. 313 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: And CANbus communication? 314 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: Not yet? 315 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: Okay, I guess, I guess I know where you're going next. 316 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: You know, you're dealing with a communication fault. Is it 317 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: intermittent or is it you know, is it still active? 318 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: Right? What's causing the fault? Is it? Is it something 319 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: you disturbed in wiring? 320 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: If you if the problem comes back and you disconnect 321 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: PCM first and the problem goes away, that means it's 322 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: obviously something there. 323 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: How reproducible? Is the intermittent? Is my point? Okay? 324 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: Or if you disconnect the TCM and reconnect it. Anytime 325 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: I get a communication error, you've got telephones in the 326 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: house or you had. Everybody had hard wired telephones at 327 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:58,119 Speaker 2: one point. 328 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: Right, I'm old enough to remember them. 329 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: Okay. 330 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: And what was the you call up the phone company 331 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: and go, hey, my phones don't work. What do they 332 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: used to tell you to do? 333 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: Start on? 334 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 6: Yeah? 335 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: I mean I knew what to do, yes, right? 336 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? Right? And why did you do that? 337 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 4: Because it was the simplest thing to do, you know, I. 338 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: Was, well, it was the simplest thing to do. Well, Well, 339 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: I'm old dude, you know it's it's it's it's the 340 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: idea that it's the idea. 341 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: That one of the modules is pulling down the rest 342 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: of the network. And my point is all right for 343 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: me to understand this circuit, what I'm gonna do is 344 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to get a wiring diagram and trace out. 345 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: First of all, I believe this is on the high 346 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: speed data network, the trans control module because it has 347 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: to talk to the PCM, and I'm going to match 348 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: that up to the OBD two connector, because if you 349 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: look at a wiring diagram, you're going to see that 350 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: the TCM ties directly into the OBD two connector. That's 351 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: where high speed can comes in. I think it's pinned 352 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: six and fourteen if I remember right. But we've got 353 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: to look at it right, and we want to see 354 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: we want to understand how a network goes down. And 355 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: that's why I'm asking when you have that failure, when 356 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 2: it doesn't start, does the check engine like come on 357 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: and key on engine off position? Can I communicate with 358 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: the PCM and at least look at data? Can I 359 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: look at the TCM and at least look at data? 360 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 361 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 6: Yeah? 362 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: Basically I can talk to everything they're just they don't 363 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 4: talk to each other when songs. 364 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: So right, then let's go with it. If you can 365 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: talk through everything. Yeah, but I want to know there's 366 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: that PCM. Is that PCM to pass through to talk 367 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: to the TCM. I'd be paying attention to how you're unplugging, 368 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: what connectors you're unplugging, Billy, because it sounds like it's 369 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: a connection issue and it's just sort of a fluke that. 370 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: Doing it made it work. Do that. 371 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: Call me back, you know where to find me next week, 372 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: and I'll be glad to talk to you about it 373 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: some more. 374 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: I'm running dy in the car. Doctor. We're back right 375 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: after this hell run. 376 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 5: Keep you right. 377 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: We're in our remote studios out here in Pittsburgh, PA. 378 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: We're on the road this weekend, and we're happy to 379 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: be here for you. You know, I should point out too, 380 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: and I appreciate you guys being here. I don't say 381 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: that often enough. And Tom and I are grateful that 382 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: you guys have stuck with us all these years as 383 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: we continue to try and help you fix your cars 384 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: and get the word out and put out some positive information. 385 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: I'm amazed every day as to how much good solid 386 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: auto repair. Information is needed. I see all the goofy 387 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: things on social media. I read a post this morning 388 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: on Facebook. I tell you, if Facebook is such a 389 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: misnumber of information and a mismanagement of truths, I often 390 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: wonder if I would have it head. We're not for 391 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: a radio show where you're supposed to be present. The 392 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: argument was talking about nails and tires, and it was 393 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: a picture of a tire with a nail in the 394 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: center and two other nails to the immediate right in 395 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: about ten minutes down on a clock face on the edge, 396 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: the outside edge that you're not supposed to repair. And 397 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: people are arguing, Oh, that tire's fine, you could repair 398 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: that tire. There's nothing wrong with that tire. Stick a 399 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: plug in it. Firestone doesn't know what they're talking about. 400 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: And I'm thinking to myself, you know, I hope none 401 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: of these idiots are next to me on the road 402 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: when I'm traveling alongest seventy five miles an hour, because 403 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: when that tire comes apart, because the steel belt is compromised. 404 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: And that's what people don't realize that there are limitations 405 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: to how you can plug a tire. Do a tire 406 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: plug safely? Technically a lot of shops don't even like 407 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: the plug. I don't like the plug. It's it's very limited. 408 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: We want to do a plug patch from the inside. 409 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: But the more I read on social media about how 410 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: people think cars should be repaired, the more I think 411 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: order repair should be licensed in all the states across 412 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: our country. And you know, just because you can pick 413 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: up a wrench doesn't mean you're allowed to So absolutely amazing, 414 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: Bill in Michigan. Let's get over to the phones. Eight 415 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: five five five six oh nine nine zero zero, Bill 416 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: in Michigan. 417 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 3: How can I help you today? Sir? What's going on? 418 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: Thanks to you and Tom for having me on Run 419 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety four Chevrolet pickup. This is a work truck, 420 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 5: standard cab, eight foot bed with a four to three 421 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 5: V six four L sixty eight transmission. Got one hundred 422 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 5: and sixty five thousand miles on it. I have an 423 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: intermittent slow crank or dead spot when the engine's warm. 424 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 5: Do you want me to take you through my diagnostic pursuit? 425 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 6: Yeah? 426 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: Please? Yeah, let me know what you did. 427 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 5: Okay. We started with a battery load test. I got 428 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 5: an eight to fifty coal cranking battery INERTS two years old. 429 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 5: It checked good voltage drop test on the positive and 430 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 5: negative cables both came out good. Neither cables were visibly corroded. However, 431 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 5: on the ground cable for this truck and several others 432 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 5: in this vintage I've checked, they ground to an illuminat 433 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 5: intake manifold. 434 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: Yep. 435 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 5: I'm not really impressed with that, but that's what it is. 436 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you might you might want to consider relocating that 437 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: or adding a secondary ground as part of your diagnosis. 438 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: I also just to relay it to you, Bill, and 439 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: I know you've got more, but I recently had and 440 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 2: there's a we're gonna put up a YouTube video. I 441 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: had a Honda in the last two weeks that had 442 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: an intermittent no crank condition. And Honda's they're notorious that 443 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: the last i don't know, six eight inches of cable 444 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: going down to the lug that attaches to the to 445 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: the transmission in this case are exposed and. 446 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: It was so corroded. 447 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: I'd go and I'd wiggle the cable and bang it 448 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: would start right up. So you know, always always look 449 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: at that connection, and I get it, you know, when 450 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: when it goes into that slow crank. If you were 451 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: to stop cranking it and bolted drop tested at that point, 452 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: what what sort of results would you see? 453 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: Or can you even do that? 454 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: Is it a matter of letting go of the key 455 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it starts normal. 456 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 5: I did that, Ron, We got it warm, and I 457 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 5: tried that and in this particular instant it's it checked 458 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 5: U thoroughly correct. It didn't have a problem. 459 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: Can't you reproduce the slow crank bill if if it 460 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: cranks slow, you know, you take you know, back off 461 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: and okay, okay, good, so at least we can test it. 462 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: Go ahead, minish your diagnosis. 463 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 5: We did a timing check and you have to This 464 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 5: is really old school, Ron. You have to disconnect a 465 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 5: wire in the cab to check the right advantage. 466 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, over the right side, by the glovebox, the brow 467 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 2: the brown wire, the tan wire with the black tracer. 468 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: If I remember Ray, is that the call you you 469 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: got to write? 470 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 5: You got to write the first time was brown, brown wire, 471 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 5: brown wire? Okay, a zero degree at the top, dead center. Now. 472 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 5: I did a tune up ron this truck. Last tune 473 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 5: up I did was twenty thirteen. I'm wing driven. Its 474 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 5: thousand miles in there, so I went with everything AC 475 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 5: Delco branded except a module, and that was standard products. 476 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 5: So we did plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor and 477 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 5: a distributor module. This helped an awful lot. It improved 478 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 5: it dramatically. I did have a local parts store check 479 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 5: my brand new, two year old AC Delco branded starter 480 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: and that checked. Okay, where I'm at. I'm looking at 481 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 5: additionally adding a ground as you suggested to the starter 482 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 5: to see if that helps. But I got the original 483 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 5: ignition coil in there, and that's causing me some concern. 484 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 5: I'm not sure how to check that. 485 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: Well, you know, let's get a let's get a spark tester, 486 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: and I don't. I don't know why it would be 487 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: an ignition coil bill, but I get it. Let's go 488 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: through the whole ignition system. You know, usually if this 489 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: is a slow crank that it turns over as if 490 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: the engine were binding. Let's say, for conversation's sake, it 491 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: does you know I would? 492 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: I would? I would? I think this would be more 493 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: along the lines of. 494 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 2: I've got I've got a flow problem to the starter 495 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 2: voltage current, something along those lines, or do I have 496 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: carbon deposits inside the motor that when the. 497 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: Engine is hot, because this only happens hot. You say, correct, 498 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: you know, do I have carbon. 499 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: Deposits that are causing a slow crank creating the issue themselves. 500 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: So I mean, listen to check the coil. It's going 501 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 3: to be the standard. 502 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: Go get a spark tester rated for the capacity output 503 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: of the coil forty to sixty thousand vaults. Stick it 504 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: against one one spark plug wire. So you'll start a 505 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: six cylinder on five cylinders and one will be the test. 506 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 3: Does it jump that gap? If it jumps that gap, 507 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: theoretically that coil is good. 508 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: You want to change it because it's ninety four, two 509 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: thousand and four, twenty fourteen. 510 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: Where are we thirty forty years? Oh yeah, you know, 511 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. 512 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: You know you want to buy well, yeah, maybe when 513 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: it starts, does it do we have a puff of 514 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: black smoke? 515 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 6: No? 516 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 5: I have no smoke tail. 517 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: You know, I mean we could put a fuel pressure 518 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: gauge on it and watch for residual drop. 519 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: Do we have any residual? We should have? Sure? For 520 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: you know, fifteen to twenty up to thirty minutes. I 521 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 3: would be a concern. But yeah, how about this? 522 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: Okay, they're checking the starter when you know, you take 523 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: it out and they bench test it. 524 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: Right, they it's at room temperature. 525 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: What if we put the starter in an oven and 526 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: brought brought it up the heat, brought up some heat 527 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 2: a little bit or it maybe make it to make 528 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: it easier. Can we set the truck up so it 529 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: goes into this hard crank and then can we hit 530 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: the starter with a garden hose? 531 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 5: Have not done that? Very possible? Yeah, very positive? 532 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: You know, I'm just trying to think of ways how 533 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: can I cool the starter down? Do I have a 534 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: case of the starter motor is getting hot and it's 535 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 2: creating a resistance problem in the starter. 536 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 3: Have you done a cranking amperage test? Bill? 537 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: You know, just put a clamp on, an amp, clamp 538 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: clamp on, what sort of what sort of current does 539 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: it draw when it starts good? And then what sort 540 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: of current does it draw when it cranks hard? 541 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 5: Okay? 542 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: And I will have you know see what that does. 543 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: Uh? This the last thing, you know, because I know 544 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: you're into the tune up you're doing this, Why don't 545 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 2: we do a carbon cleaning? 546 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: It's it's gone such low mileage. Yeah, it's you know, 547 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 3: it's easy enough to do. 548 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: Run down to your local Advanced Order Parts or somebody 549 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: pick up a CRC fuel System cleaning kit. 550 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: They've got a bunch of good stuff on the market. 551 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: CRC makes a great kit. And you know, follow the instructions. 552 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: Do a cleaning, decarbonize the engine. 553 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 3: Does that make a difference? 554 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: Okay, and you know it's gonna it's gonna be somewhere 555 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: in this. But just one step at a time, all right, kiddo. 556 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Ron. You've got a Powermaster starter on 557 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 5: the fifty five. Is that still a good brand? If 558 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 5: I want to change? 559 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 3: Still a good brand, Still a good brand. I still 560 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: like that starter. 561 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 2: Knockwood, Bill, we shouldn't say this, not wood Wait, I'm 562 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 2: knocking the desk here. Uh you know so, But yeah, 563 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: it's uh, it's funny. We were talking about the fifty 564 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 2: five at lunch today. I got to take it out 565 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: for one last ride before the end of the year. 566 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: I didn't get enough time to drive it this year. 567 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: I just found too many other projects going on. But 568 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: I guess that's the life of a busy mechanic. Bill 569 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: always a pleasure sir, you take good care and be well. 570 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: Give us a call back when you need more. I'm 571 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: running Andy and the Card Doctor. We're back right after this. 572 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 2: You know, I really love the new spots. 573 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: For the card Doctor's store. I didn't know that Santa 574 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: was so involved. 575 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: I have a clock for him to see if we can, 576 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: you know, maybe help everybody and get delivery by Christmas. 577 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: So but yeah, the car Doctor store is open and 578 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: we are you know what, we're selling coffee cups again. 579 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, coffee cups have picked up, so 580 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: we're glad to see it. I was just talking to 581 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: the production team the other day. We're going to try 582 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: and come up with some ronisms for the new year, 583 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: so along the lines of good mechanics aren't expensive, maybe 584 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 2: my truck runs, or that's not the way I would 585 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: have done it, something like that. 586 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 3: But well, of course it's great exactly. 587 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 2: So let's let's go back to the phone, Tom. Let's 588 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: go to Brian in Wisconsin. Brian, are you there, sir? 589 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 6: Hey Ron, thanks thanks for taking our call. My wife 590 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 6: and I are longtime listeners. 591 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. 592 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 6: Maybe you can help you can help me with a 593 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 6: general question you've helped me in the past with the 594 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 6: seventy five old, a seventy nine olds cutlass and an 595 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 6: old five for focus. And you talked me last year. 596 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 6: You talked to me out of replacing the frame on 597 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 6: a Chevy Waldock conversion van that my mom left me 598 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 6: and talked me into buying a sprinter van. 599 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: So gotcha, I remember that call? Sure cool? 600 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 6: I got a two part question. I was borned when 601 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 6: I bought the sprinter van because it's a diesel, not 602 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 6: to let it idle for a long time. And you 603 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 6: see semi trucks all the time I'm idling over the night. 604 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 6: Is that? Is that a truism or is that something 605 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 6: that I've been told? 606 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: Falseley, anytime somebody tells me something like that, my first 607 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: question is. 608 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: Why I always I always call it. 609 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: I always call them on the spot because I can't 610 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: think of a reason why. Frankly, if we're mad, yeah, 611 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: go ahead. 612 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 6: Well it was something about the carbon, the build up 613 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 6: of carbon, or have to regenerate it because it's a diesel. 614 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: Well yeah, but if we're doing our diesel maintenance, if 615 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: we're doing our filters, if we're using correct, good quality 616 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: fluid and filters, if we're visiting watch this segue Hotshotsecret 617 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: dot com and looking at some of the diesel additives 618 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: and products. Listen, it's the truth though, right, you know, 619 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 2: for for all my diesel customers, we you know, we 620 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: use product from Hotshot Secret and there's a laundry list 621 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: there of what are we trying to achieve and some 622 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: of the things they have. Their stiction eliminator is phenomenal 623 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: for a diesel. You know, everything you want to know 624 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: to take care of a diesel is there at hotshot 625 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: Secret dot com. So it's it's you know, that's where 626 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: you want to be. I think I think the general 627 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: fallacy don't idle a diesel is nonsense. 628 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: Because you're right, look at all the eighteen wheelers. 629 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: How about the eighteen wheelers you see on the side 630 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: of the road right that are pulled over sleeping for 631 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: the night and the truck stops or in the rest areas. 632 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: What you think you know, it's yeah, so I think 633 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: somebody is it's wives tales unless they've got a specific reason. 634 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: If you're not doing something right. That's like saying, don't 635 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: drive the vehicle because you're gonna have to go through 636 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: a cat reach in every once in a while doesn't 637 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: make any sense. 638 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: So second question, Okay. 639 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 6: Second question. My wife and I have never really owned 640 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 6: a brand new vehicle. We've always bought them two or 641 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 6: three years old. Right now, she's got a twenty ten 642 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 6: Nissan Ultima. I've got a twenty ten for one fifty. 643 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 6: We both bought with forty five and seventy five thousand 644 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 6: miles respectively. They're almost at two hundred. We're looking to 645 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 6: get a we're looking to get a kind of a 646 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 6: what is your idea of a great vehicle? 647 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: Right now? 648 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 6: From a mechanics point of view, I'm talking about cost 649 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 6: of baintenance, ease of ownership, reliability. We're retired and we're 650 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 6: looking at buying either a new or used one, which 651 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 6: is gonna be our last vehicle. 652 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: You know that's how big. 653 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: Well, everybody says it's the last vehicle. God willing you 654 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: live another thirty years. All of a sudden you need 655 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: another vehicle. So let's not go there. 656 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 6: Well, we got we got a hundred pilot, black Chevy Tahoe, GMC, 657 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 6: Yukon bmw X or an Audi Q. 658 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: Now, listen, the German cars are a completely different conversation. 659 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: They really are you know, it's the German car experience. 660 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: And we could talk about the German car experience, but 661 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: there's not enough time, even if we started at the 662 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: top of the hour, because that's just a whole nother conversation. 663 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, Brian, stay put, let me 664 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: pull over, take a pause. When I come back, we'll 665 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: finish up. I don't want to rush this, and we'll 666 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: get we'll get all your questions answered. I'm running any 667 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: in the car, doctor, I'll be back right after this. 668 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: H And we are back, Brian, Wisconsin. 669 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 3: You're still there, sir. 670 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the questions are buying a buying a replacement vehicle. 671 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: We're just buying one vehicle to replace too, Brian. 672 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 6: Yep, that's it. And I can't get a pickup because 673 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 6: my wife won't allow me to get a pick up. 674 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 6: So we've we've chosen, we've chose two different vehicles. And 675 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 6: she's standing right next to me and she's smiling. She's hoping, 676 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 6: you're gonna sear your way, her way or my way. 677 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 3: So jeez, what do you gotta turn my car? I 678 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: gotta turn my collar around. What are my choiceing vehicles? Again? 679 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 6: Well, we've we've got it narrowed down to a Honda 680 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 6: Pilot Black, a Chevy Tahoe or gmc u con. But 681 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 6: you know, all we're looking for is a mechanic to 682 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 6: tell us, hey, these are the ones we're having really 683 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 6: good luck with. 684 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: You know, you want to buy, you want to you 685 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: want to buy a brick. 686 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: You know, a brick. It never breaks, it's reliable, it's 687 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: just it just it just goes right. 688 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 6: Yep, all right, And we're looking for honest, non opinionated answer. 689 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: Those are all good vehicles. They're decent, okay, But if 690 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: you want to really go drive something just for the 691 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: heck of it, and you're you're still in the window 692 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: where they're two years old, and you could get them 693 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: cheaper than what they originally were. 694 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: I really love that. 695 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: Lex for sixty that my wife drives, that lexuside Border. 696 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: That thing it's it's it's like a glorified highlander, all right. 697 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: It's a freight it's a freight train on wheels. I 698 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: defy anybody take that thing out on the interstate do 699 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: seventy five eighty miles an hour with it, which unfortunately 700 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: you have to do, and break the speed limit in 701 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: some parts to avoid getting run over by the diesel 702 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: trucks that are flying down the road. But that Lex 703 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: four sixty V eight, no turbocharger, low on maintenance, they 704 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: just run brother. That truck will go a quarter million 705 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: miles with reasonable care. Go drive one of those. Call 706 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: me back next week we can talk. 707 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: More about it. But put your wife in it. 708 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: Let her drive it, let her turn on the seat heater, 709 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: let her listen to the radio. I think she's going 710 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 2: to fall in love all over again, but I'm sure 711 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 2: you'll still be her number one guy till the next time. 712 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 3: I'm ronning Andy in the car. 713 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: Doctor, it's been a pleasure to be here for all 714 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: of you. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 715 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 3: See you, hey, the doctor. Carr Advice tolride