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Speaker 3: I mean there's players that do it with their mouth,
Speaker 3: they talk a lot, but then there's guys that do
Speaker 3: it on the field, and I think the nails that
Speaker 3: do it on the field. Guy like, they're going to
Speaker 3: see his work ethic, They're going to see all the
Speaker 3: things he.
Speaker 4: Does pre practice, pre warm up. You know, he's big
Speaker 4: into the body like he has a body guy.
Speaker 2: If you want to call him there he hit a
Speaker 2: nail on the head, Thul.
Speaker 1: I mean Brian and Neils always said, you know, going
Speaker 1: against Neil Hunter has made me a better professional.
Speaker 5: All right, Welcome to the Minnesota Vikings Podcast Training Competition.
Speaker 5: My name is Gabe Henderson. We are outside the Twin
Speaker 5: Cities Orthopedics Performance Center recording this podcast and I'm alongside
Speaker 5: Tatum Everett, Jay Notson, and our friend Ron Johnson. Eric Davidson,
Speaker 5: who I guess is going by DJE, is the producer.
Speaker 5: Tatum said he looks like a DJ with this setup today,
Speaker 5: which is different from our normal setup inside the TCO
Speaker 5: Radio studio, but so excited to watch walkthroughs right now.
Speaker 5: The offensive linemen are coming out, the kickers and punters
Speaker 5: are out here, and it has been a very very
Speaker 5: interesting week so far. As we record this on a Tuesday,
Speaker 5: Monday was the first day of paddick practice, and right
Speaker 5: before practice started, the Vikings officially reached a one year
Speaker 5: deal with the Neil Hunter for seventeen million, which can
Speaker 5: be up to twenty million with incentives. And yesterday at practice,
Speaker 5: you felt Danil's just presence. He didn't practice at all
Speaker 5: in team drills, but just his presence alone, his physical stature.
Speaker 5: I know. Caraacy Tatum talked to Quaycy and he said,
Speaker 5: and Caracy basically said, Danil got bigger this offseason because
Speaker 5: he wasn't training or rehabbing an injury. So Ron just
Speaker 5: looking at Danil's presence having him back this year, what
Speaker 5: does that mean for this defense?
Speaker 3: I mean, have you ever watched the Avengers would Outthoor
Speaker 3: like That's that's what I feel like when I see
Speaker 3: Danail Hunter like Thor was on yesterday, and uh, you
Speaker 3: know they're for those who have seen the first one
Speaker 3: of the first Avengers Thor movies. He gets the hammer
Speaker 3: taken away from him, and then he has to earn
Speaker 3: it back. You know, he feels like he's not Thor,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, lightning strikes. He looks
Speaker 3: super cut up and it's just Thor. And that's what
Speaker 3: daneil Hunter reminds me of. Like daneil Hunter without the money,
Speaker 3: without the uniform, not being around here is kind of
Speaker 3: like Thor without the hammer.
Speaker 4: They give him that.
Speaker 3: Twenty million dollars. Like you see, I mean, he posted
Speaker 3: the picture of himself. I feel like the NFL is
Speaker 3: gonna drug test them, Like I don't saw that picture.
Speaker 3: It looked like he had just got done. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: looks like he just got done lifting weights, like you know,
Speaker 3: he had to looks like I mean, I remember, I'm
Speaker 3: old enough to remember Ultimate Warrior and he used to
Speaker 3: wear those armbands to make.
Speaker 4: His veins pop out.
Speaker 3: Daniel does that without armbands and so yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: when you see a guy that size, if you're a
Speaker 3: defense and I always talk about guys that what my
Speaker 3: dad used to say, this, Let's send the biggest guy
Speaker 3: off the bus first to intimidate the other team. Sure,
Speaker 3: Daniel Hunter's that guy, like I would send him and
Speaker 3: Christian saw off the bus first because those are two big,
Speaker 3: imposing guys. But also I love watching Sauce Gardner Verus
Speaker 3: gear Wilson in training camp. Right now with the Jets,
Speaker 3: I feel like Daneil Hunter, Marcus Davenport are gonna make
Speaker 3: sure you the better, same way Z did with Daniel,
Speaker 3: and then they're gonna make Christian dare So I'm Brian
Speaker 3: O'Neil better because they're gonna go against him every day,
Speaker 3: and so I think it's all encompassing of a team
Speaker 3: of like, here's our best pass rusher, and if I'm
Speaker 3: a cornerback, I feel comfortable knowing like that quarterback probably
Speaker 3: when he has three seconds, and I think that's what
Speaker 3: Daniel Hunter brings his team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, while Brian O'Neill did not practice, it's not practicing
Speaker 5: right now. He did post a picture on his Instagram
Speaker 5: welcoming Daniel back, basically with the picture of them doing
Speaker 5: a one on one last year at training camp. So Tatum,
Speaker 5: just understanding Denot's presence, how did they feel seeing him
Speaker 5: out here?
Speaker 2: I mean, you hit it right on the nail on
Speaker 2: the head, Thum.
Speaker 1: I mean Brian O'Neil's always said, you know, going against
Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter has made me a better professional.
Speaker 2: So he just adds he elevates it. It's a young defense.
Speaker 1: They got very very young after this free agency period,
Speaker 1: in the new signing and the draft, and so I
Speaker 1: think having a veteran presence in there is super is
Speaker 1: super helpful. I love that Qracy mentioned the rehabbing thing,
Speaker 1: but then he said, you know, we just went the
Speaker 1: baddest dudes on the schoolyard, and he's a bad dude,
Speaker 1: and the defense can walk a little taller knowing that
Speaker 1: Daniel Hunters on their team this time around. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a little interested to see or if I could
Speaker 1: be a fly on the wall in the conversations of
Speaker 1: Danil and Marcus Davenport, because they're both very soft spoken,
Speaker 1: very introspective. They are not the biggest personalities. And so
Speaker 1: you know, you had Zadarius last year, which was quite
Speaker 1: the opposite. So now at these two, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like you've got these like like zen Masters assassins.
Speaker 6: There you go, yeah, yeah, I mean Zadarius and Daniel
Speaker 6: accounted for twenty and a half sacks last year and
Speaker 6: they only had thirty eight total as a team, So
Speaker 6: like that one two punch was incredibly important last year,
Speaker 6: and hopefully, you know, Hunter and and Davenport are going
Speaker 6: to be able to kind of pick up where that
Speaker 6: left off. I just know that towards the back end
Speaker 6: of the season, the pass rush just wasn't there, and
Speaker 6: so needing that to return to form. Hoping that Flores
Speaker 6: with his scheme coming up here and adding a guy
Speaker 6: like him now formally into that lineup, I think that's
Speaker 6: going to be a big, big deal. So they need
Speaker 6: as much pass rush as rush as they can, and
Speaker 6: a guy like Daniel Hunter is somebody that you can
Speaker 6: definitely form that cornerstone from given his track given his
Speaker 6: track record the last six years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the track record speaks for itself. Over seventy sacks,
Speaker 5: the first player NFO history to fifty well, the youngest
Speaker 5: player in NFL history to fifty sacks. And we understand
Speaker 5: what he does when he's off the field, But ron
Speaker 5: for this locker room that has so many young guys,
Speaker 5: young cornerbacks, young linebackers. What is a guy Daniel who
Speaker 5: doesn't talk much. What does that provide this locker room
Speaker 5: that needs that veteran leadership.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's.
Speaker 3: Players that do it with their mouth, they talk a lot,
Speaker 3: but then there's guys that do it field And I
Speaker 3: think Daniel's a do it on the field guy. Like,
Speaker 3: they're gonna see his work ethic, They're gonna see all
Speaker 3: the things he does.
Speaker 4: Pre practice, pre warm up.
Speaker 3: You know, he's big into the body, like he has
Speaker 3: a body guy, if you want to call him that,
Speaker 3: that he does all these weird like karate type workouts
Speaker 3: and all these weird like acrobatic aerobic type workouts. And
Speaker 3: then think about Patrick Mahomes, Like we got to see
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes on Netflix doing this type of crap where
Speaker 3: you put your body in weird positions and say, now
Speaker 3: throw a ball. So Daniel does the same thing. Put
Speaker 3: your body into a position, now try to get past
Speaker 3: the passers. Now try to swim me. Because what happens
Speaker 3: in the game is a lot of players don't realize
Speaker 3: you're in weird predicaments. And we see Daniel Hunter get
Speaker 3: solo to the ground, dip that shoulder.
Speaker 4: He's able to do it.
Speaker 3: But then you'll see him warming up with the coaches
Speaker 3: with the hand pads with rubber bands and all kinds
Speaker 3: of things, and so I think for the younger players
Speaker 3: you see that too. Daniel Hunter is a guy that's
Speaker 3: gonna put his body first, rest, stand out standing away
Speaker 3: from being out late at night. I think that's another key.
Speaker 3: The younger a team, the more they end up in
Speaker 3: a club. I'll never forget what the coach when Reggie
Speaker 3: Wayne got married and Howard Mudd, the offensive line coach,
Speaker 3: when we are joking about it, because I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, Reggie was one of my guys, and I
Speaker 3: was like, hey, Reggie, he's gonna be, you know whatever,
Speaker 3: a couple of minutes late because he said he had
Speaker 3: to drop his wife off.
Speaker 4: And Howard Mud was like, what, Reggie got married? He
Speaker 4: was like, the streets of Indianapolis are safer.
Speaker 3: And I think that's where that comes into this play
Speaker 3: of like having veteran guys that you don't ever see,
Speaker 3: like Daniel Hunter's never been in the media for being
Speaker 3: out late. He's never been in the media for a duy,
Speaker 3: and I think that's another big part of this team
Speaker 3: is having veterans that can explain that to these younger guys, like, look,
Speaker 3: if you want this twenty million dollars, if you want
Speaker 3: this seventy two million dollars.
Speaker 4: This is how you get it.
Speaker 3: And I think that's huge for a group of young
Speaker 3: guys coming in because you really don't know. For me
Speaker 3: coming as a rookie, you know, I had Ray Lewis.
Speaker 3: We had Pete Bowaer who.
Speaker 4: Was an older guy.
Speaker 3: We had Mike McCrary, We had the Dailius Thomas and
Speaker 3: so those guys we had, even.
Speaker 4: Matt Stover as a punter or a kicker. He would
Speaker 4: tell us stuff.
Speaker 3: And so I think that's the thing is having those
Speaker 3: older guys to explain to a team because when you
Speaker 3: go like teams say, oh there's the youngest team in NFL,
Speaker 3: look at all the drama that happens. Like look at
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns right now. They've had two fights and
Speaker 3: they've had to run like they're in high school. So
Speaker 3: that's the things you're not going to see, hopefully with
Speaker 3: a veteran group.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: The thing with Hunter two is he just turns twenty
Speaker 6: nine in October, so like he should still have another
Speaker 6: fun five six years in this league at this point,
Speaker 6: and he's playing on a contract here. You know, he's
Speaker 6: got the idea that he's going to be advocating for
Speaker 6: himself on the field for what's going to happen for
Speaker 6: his future contract next year, given the way that the
Speaker 6: terms were worked out here with this deal with the Viking.
Speaker 6: So it just feels like with Hunter, he's going to
Speaker 6: have to be the guy who his play is going
Speaker 6: to dictate what happens for Brian Flores on this because
Speaker 6: he's going to get the double teams. He's going to
Speaker 6: be the guy that's gonna be the focal point at
Speaker 6: least at that point of attack on the line. And
Speaker 6: I just feel like he absolutely knows that that's the case,
Speaker 6: and so he's going to have to embrace that. And
Speaker 6: I think for a guy like Jim, you're talking the
Speaker 6: Mahomes thing and just putting him in a weird positions
Speaker 6: and weird situations for a guy like him who's so
Speaker 6: good off the snap and with his lean, you know,
Speaker 6: those kind of pieces are the things that kind of
Speaker 6: make him his bread and butter, and so the strength
Speaker 6: is going to be able to get him a little separation,
Speaker 6: and that's the kind of thing. If he can still
Speaker 6: be as explosive as he has been over the last
Speaker 6: few seasons, I think you know he's going to be
Speaker 6: back to what four Pro Bowls out of the last
Speaker 6: five years kind of a situation for him. And so
Speaker 6: I'm just looking at daneil Hunter as kind of the
Speaker 6: focal point really on this defense. To really be the guy,
Speaker 6: you have to build her own.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's also note like I think it's
Speaker 1: part of this like acclimation process for him too, because
Speaker 1: like sure he was rehabbing the last few years, but
Speaker 1: he needs to understand this defense and get into the
Speaker 1: swing of things for a while. So I don't even
Speaker 1: know if we see that until the season starts. See
Speaker 1: what Brian Forest can do, because you can watch it
Speaker 1: practice all you want, but I don't think he's going
Speaker 1: to be that up to speed with everything. Well by
Speaker 1: next preseason game, we may see him a couple couple
Speaker 1: of series and then not so much.
Speaker 3: I'd say Kevin O'Connell last didn't really play any of
Speaker 3: the top guys. So I mean a guy like Daniel Hunter,
Speaker 3: you're right, like he like Brian floores Like talking to
Speaker 3: coach Chris Rump, he said, this is a brand new
Speaker 3: canvas and they're painting what the defenses looked like. So
Speaker 3: you're right, like, I think it's gonna be absolute chaos,
Speaker 3: and Daniel's gonna have to understand the calls and what
Speaker 3: does this mean?
Speaker 4: And where do I go here?
Speaker 3: It's a three four, he's technically a four to three
Speaker 3: d N. So yeah, so I think danil because I mean, honestly,
Speaker 3: you you think a little bit about the team, but
Speaker 3: you're also like, look, I might be traded, Like how
Speaker 3: much am I going how much time I'm gonna waste?
Speaker 4: You know, until I know you guys really want me?
Speaker 3: And you know who knows what Because Vin O'Connell said
Speaker 3: conversations we then have a conversation with with Daniel Hunter.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but I think this is gonna be the
Speaker 3: key for him. How fast and him and Marcus Davenport
Speaker 3: get on the same page because you're right, him and
Speaker 3: z right away we're taking pictures together. They were meet
Speaker 3: me at the quarterback two point oh. They had the
Speaker 3: celebration dance the.
Speaker 5: Season right that we never saw again. I never saw
Speaker 5: the dance in the game, even though they did have
Speaker 5: twenty and a half sacks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, true.
Speaker 6: One thing I was really interested though too. Flores had
Speaker 6: kind of somebody had asked the question about him dropping
Speaker 6: back in past coverage and just kind of saying like, yeah,
Speaker 6: we're going to be a little more selective kind of
Speaker 6: and how that goes. And I think for a guy
Speaker 6: like him, Flores's whole thing was saying, we're just wanting
Speaker 6: to turn him up field right and let him create havoc.
Speaker 6: So that's the whole thing is if everything could be
Speaker 6: sound behind him in that linebacker position and even in
Speaker 6: the back in the secondary, a guy like Danil, if
Speaker 6: he can get back to form of just being that
Speaker 6: demon to you know, take off on the ball, I
Speaker 6: think that's going to be a huge deal for them.
Speaker 5: Oh that would be so great. And you look at
Speaker 5: just the guys that have been getting reps behind Denil
Speaker 5: since he hasn't been here the first week, DJ Wantam
Speaker 5: Patrick Jones says, like all both of those guys have
Speaker 5: really got some valuable reps. And I believe that's only
Speaker 5: going to make Daniel better this year because he knows
Speaker 5: he has guys behind him that are coming to rust
Speaker 5: the quarterback. Speaking of a quarterback position, Kirk Cousins, it
Speaker 5: was recently announced that he was ranked forty second overall
Speaker 5: in the NFL Top one hundred and if you aren't
Speaker 5: aware of the NFL Top one hundred. This is a
Speaker 5: pier list. Well, I guess NFL piers players in the
Speaker 5: NFL vote and basically send it into the league and
Speaker 5: basically say, okay, these are my top one hundred players.
Speaker 5: The NFL kind of averages that out and then releases
Speaker 5: the list a couple of months later. So forty second overall.
Speaker 5: Last year, Kirk was ninety nine. So when we first
Speaker 5: were seeing the NFL Network Top one hundred list, Kirk
Speaker 5: was the second person they got announced, and everybody's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait,
Speaker 5: Kirk finally has this respect ron Yeah, I mean Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 3: When you look at the even the execs list that
Speaker 3: came out with the top quarterbacks Tier one, Tier two,
Speaker 3: Tier three, so on and so forth. By the way, Jalen
Speaker 3: hurts erroneous on all accounts, he should never be in
Speaker 3: tier two. But still the different conversation, you got the
Speaker 3: social media quarterback in Justin Herbert and tier one. So
Speaker 3: when you think about those quarterbacks of the twelve, and
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins is technically in that top twelve with Dak
Speaker 3: Prescott and all those guys in that list, Jared Goffer
Speaker 3: is below him.
Speaker 4: He deserves to be up.
Speaker 3: There because if you put Kirk Cousins in the nineties
Speaker 3: or the eighties, where are you putting Dak Prescott, Where
Speaker 3: are you putting Justin Herbert, Where are you putting Justin Fields?
Speaker 3: I think that's the key is Kirk Cousins, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: has outplayed those guys. He deserves that respect. Now it's
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson made him better because some people are saying
Speaker 3: that like, oh, it's easy when you could throw it up. True,
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson has helped him. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins sells to make those reds. He sells to
Speaker 3: take those hits and seals to make those throws. And
Speaker 3: I loved how he talked about that on Netflix of
Speaker 3: like I've had to take hits, stare down a bullet,
Speaker 3: down a barrow, and just throw the ball knowing I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get crushed like in the Bills game, and throw
Speaker 3: blind passes. I think Kirk Cousins now people are understanding
Speaker 3: he is good. Guys like Santana Moss came on My
Speaker 3: show and talked about that that he said he loved
Speaker 3: Kirk when he's in Washington, he said, this whole primetime
Speaker 3: thing is not a Kirk, It's a whole team thing.
Speaker 4: And I think more and more players are going to
Speaker 4: start to come.
Speaker 3: To bat for Kirk cousins simply for the fact of
Speaker 3: you know, his wife and him are they know they're
Speaker 3: da dad mom swag like they're they're at Costco shopping
Speaker 3: for clothes.
Speaker 4: You know, shit, they're exactly millionaire.
Speaker 3: Oh, Costco has some good deals when you're looking at
Speaker 3: if you look at for Gopher gear, Vikan's gear, go
Speaker 3: to Costco.
Speaker 4: Like, guess some good deals for kids for sure?
Speaker 5: Sound like a true dad adult t shirts.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, if we can find some some Vikings
Speaker 3: gear Gopher's gear at Costco, why not? But yeah, the
Speaker 3: Cole's cash and saning. Kurt has a nice new plaid shirt.
Speaker 3: But I think forty second is right where he should be.
Speaker 3: I think that's a nice.
Speaker 4: Number for him.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: In order to get in that because people are like,
Speaker 3: what's that top twenty five, you've got to win multiple
Speaker 3: playoff games, like you've got to win the wild card,
Speaker 3: you gotta win the divisional, and you got to win
Speaker 3: the championship, like you've got to win to be considered
Speaker 3: like Patrick Mahomes without the wins, is just another quarterback
Speaker 3: that makes great throws.
Speaker 4: That's where Josh Allen is.
Speaker 3: He's a great quarterback, but he's not winning. He's not
Speaker 3: beating Patrick Mose, he's not beating Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow's
Speaker 3: going to be up there because of that. Justin Jefferson
Speaker 3: is going to probably be number two or three. You know,
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins has to win, and I think that's the
Speaker 3: next step. It's not just him though, the defense has
Speaker 3: to hell. But like NFL Networks say it with you
Speaker 3: with Bucky Brooks, Hey, the Vicers going to score thirty
Speaker 3: forty points a game, and I think that's gonna be
Speaker 3: enough to help Brian Flores out, which might be true.
Speaker 2: No doubt about that.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's we said it on the show,
Speaker 1: I think yesterday where it was like the defense, We've
Speaker 1: stayed on this podcast with them. The defense doesn't have
Speaker 1: to get that much better for this team to win.
Speaker 1: This offense can score points and score fast. I think
Speaker 1: this is a great leap for Kirk. I mean that's
Speaker 1: I wonder if he where he ranks in the biggest
Speaker 1: leap from last year's Top one hundred rankings to this
Speaker 1: year's hop was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 5: Then I saw like Pats or Tam wasn't ranked last
Speaker 5: year anyway.
Speaker 2: Well, then there goes that.
Speaker 5: Like rankings. I get. I get that question because this
Speaker 5: is like, sure, how high is someone jumped that was ranking?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's that's an incredible jump right there,
Speaker 1: And like, I mean, I can't echo what Ron said
Speaker 1: more just the fact that his credibility goes up. And
Speaker 1: you know, part of me thinks that's why at least
Speaker 1: one reason he would want to like take a peek
Speaker 1: behind the curtain. Why Kirk would want people to see
Speaker 1: what goes into this because not that it matters to
Speaker 1: him that he has this credibility or that he gets
Speaker 1: the masses to like him. I don't think he's worried
Speaker 1: about that, but I do think he probably wants people
Speaker 1: to understand what all goes into this job. And like
Speaker 1: he also knew that if he signed on to do
Speaker 1: this with a production company that's owned by Peyton Manning,
Speaker 1: another former quarterback whose process was I bet was very similar,
Speaker 1: then he knows he can trust them.
Speaker 2: So I think this was all a really good move
Speaker 2: by him.
Speaker 1: You know, all Not all publicity is good publicity, but
Speaker 1: when it's great publicity, you can only imagine that maybe
Speaker 1: this gives them a little bit of juice. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it might be kind of silly to overthink that, but
Speaker 1: in this offseason.
Speaker 6: I mean, he jumped ahead of Dak Prescott at fifty six,
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers was fifty one.
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers draft forty eight spots, which we.
Speaker 2: Should talking about made the biggest seriously.
Speaker 6: But one of the things that people have been speculating,
Speaker 6: given who they believe is still left on this list,
Speaker 6: is that Kirk's going to be like around the sixth
Speaker 6: quarterback on the list total, and that's behind her Mahomes, Hurts,
Speaker 6: Alan Burrow, and Lawrence. So for him to be in
Speaker 6: that kind of sixth position kind of requisite from last year,
Speaker 6: the six quarterback that was left with Matt Stafford. He
Speaker 6: came off a Super Bowl win at number twenty eight.
Speaker 6: So you know, a guy like Kirk, I think is
Speaker 6: definitely starting to get more of the flowers, especially given
Speaker 6: the season he had last year. I think it's undeniable.
Speaker 6: When you have a guy like JJ going off on
Speaker 6: a historic pace, there's a guy that's got to get
Speaker 6: him in the ball and so to me, it just
Speaker 6: feels like it's finally at the point where people are saying, like, listen,
Speaker 6: this guy is putting up numbers every year. He's very consistent,
Speaker 6: and he tends to be pretty steady at you, and
Speaker 6: so you know, a guy like Kirk definitely has to
Speaker 6: start getting his accolades.
Speaker 5: That kind of brings me to my next question, because
Speaker 5: the Athletic just recently put out a list basically ranking
Speaker 5: the top ten quarterbacks, and the people who voted for
Speaker 5: these I guess this list were GMS, NFL executives and insiders,
Speaker 5: and none of those people had Kirk cousins in the
Speaker 5: top ten. So would you much rather be ranked higher
Speaker 5: by the executives and general managers and people inside the
Speaker 5: building or your actual locker room?
Speaker 2: I think they'll all say locker room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, that's that.
Speaker 2: That's what I would feel.
Speaker 1: Mean sure, like the execs GMS is ever making the decisions.
Speaker 1: The insiders I would really not care about.
Speaker 5: Got it, got it?
Speaker 2: I just want it right.
Speaker 5: I agree with you. Their media Jay made a good
Speaker 5: point early and I won't take it away from it.
Speaker 6: It's Okay, Now, my gut reaction is you want the
Speaker 6: respect of the locker rooms so that it's your peers
Speaker 6: and everything. At the same point, you also want the
Speaker 6: respect of the front office because that's going to get
Speaker 6: you paid paid exactly right. But but for me, it
Speaker 6: would definitely I think in the end, you know, if
Speaker 6: you're somebody that's established and you're you're trying to be
Speaker 6: a top ten quarterback, you're probably getting top ten quarterback money.
Speaker 6: So for you, it's it's definitely going to turn into
Speaker 6: the uh the kind of the accolades of your peers.
Speaker 1: Conversely, would you say that if you have the respect
Speaker 1: of your of the locker room, it could get you
Speaker 1: further along with an EZECH or GM maybe who's on
Speaker 1: the fence with you.
Speaker 6: Potentially just depends on your leadership.
Speaker 1: But if the front office does it likes you and
Speaker 1: you're putting your teammates, don't that seems like a worse situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think from our front office standpoint too, they're always
Speaker 3: going to go to the captains or other leaders on
Speaker 3: the team too. So I think it's it is you
Speaker 3: do want your locker room to love you and like you,
Speaker 3: and I think GM's also listen to the noise, because
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they hear these players too. So when
Speaker 3: you can start to like earn the respect of all
Speaker 3: these players and all these other guys and all these
Speaker 3: teams around the league, I think you're starting to change
Speaker 3: the narrative of who you can be. And I think
Speaker 3: that's what Kirk Cousin's doing now. He's changing that narrative.
Speaker 3: And now again also it comes down now as wins.
Speaker 3: You can change every narrative, you can do everything you want,
Speaker 3: but you gotta win. And I think that's the key
Speaker 3: for this team. Thirteen and four is going to be
Speaker 3: tough to repeat. But then what does it look like
Speaker 3: If they're eleven and six is a competitive If they're
Speaker 3: twelve and five is a competitive they're ten and seven
Speaker 3: and they win the North?
Speaker 4: Is it competitive?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 4: Like you don't want to get.
Speaker 3: Blown out every loss and then win every like last year,
Speaker 3: you know, And that's what you can't have blowout losses
Speaker 3: and then ridiculous wins. You got to be consistent where
Speaker 3: it's like, man, we're winning by two touchdowns or we're
Speaker 3: writing these games, but we're not having to come down
Speaker 3: to the last kick. Or the last player JJ on
Speaker 3: fourth down against the Bills, Like, you can't live like that.
Speaker 3: You're gonna eventually, Like people say, it's like a three pointer.
Speaker 3: You live by the three, you die by the three.
Speaker 3: The Warriors lived by it for years and then Lebron
Speaker 3: three won.
Speaker 4: Them and they died by it.
Speaker 5: So it just they won two cents though they did.
Speaker 5: They did.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, no, I think I think winning like
Speaker 3: that is like the three point in the NBA. It's
Speaker 3: not sustainable long term. You have to find ways to
Speaker 3: put your foot on the other team's throat. And I
Speaker 3: think that's where and we'll talk about these guys later,
Speaker 3: but I think that's where some of these defensive guys
Speaker 3: can help with that.
Speaker 6: It's a success oriented business. And you start not only
Speaker 6: winning in the regular season and everyone goes a, but
Speaker 6: you lost in the playoffs. Now it's the next thing
Speaker 6: is going to be. You got to have success in
Speaker 6: the playoffs in order for people to get to that
Speaker 6: next respect level for him and to be able to
Speaker 6: the guy that's gonna put up those numbers. Think about
Speaker 6: guy like Matt Stafford. Everyone always looked at him, said, well,
Speaker 6: he's playing for the Lions. He doesn't have the support
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. But then he goes to a
Speaker 6: Super Bowl winning team that's just absolutely loaded, and everyone's
Speaker 6: like stick him, you know, they suck him at twenty
Speaker 6: eighth on the list last year and now last year
Speaker 6: they just got absolutely decimated because a ton of their
Speaker 6: veterans and everybody left the team. And now everyone's kind
Speaker 6: of like, well, it's Matt Staff for the guy really
Speaker 6: with the rams, Like, yeah, he won a ring, but
Speaker 6: it's what have you done for me lately? So for me,
Speaker 6: it just turns into, you know, for Kirk, he's gonna
Speaker 6: have to not only have a successful season, but then
Speaker 6: get a you know run in the playoffs in order
Speaker 6: for people to really feel like he's turned that corner
Speaker 6: in order to be the veteran that people respect.
Speaker 5: Yeah, as we look at Kirk Cousins on the field
Speaker 5: right now, he is talking to Garrett Bradbury and they're
Speaker 5: doing walkthroughs right now. Defenses on the far field, offenses
Speaker 5: on the field closest to us, and you just look
Speaker 5: at some of these offensive linemen and defensive lineman, just
Speaker 5: the non skill guys. Ron will you when you look
Speaker 5: at will you understand now that pads are on all
Speaker 5: those conversations of the dB basically saying, you know, lockdown
Speaker 5: it lockdown, or you know, I put the handcuffs on them.
Speaker 5: It doesn't really mean anything because there's an actual pass rush.
Speaker 5: So when you look at some of these intermediate positions,
Speaker 5: offensive line, defensive line, linebackers, tight ends, who are some
Speaker 5: guys that need to make that next step?
Speaker 4: Well easier for me was gonna be TJ.
Speaker 3: Howkinson, But I think everybody knows he's a star. I
Speaker 3: think Marcus Davenport has to make a leap. He has
Speaker 3: to be impactful.
Speaker 5: One.
Speaker 3: When you pick the number zero, you're all the eyes
Speaker 3: are on you. Now you're agent zero. You're zero dark
Speaker 3: ninety nine, like your zero whatever you want to call
Speaker 3: your ground zero like you have to be able to
Speaker 3: be And I loved watching some of the intricacies. I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna say some of the stuff I've seen because
Speaker 3: fans in the world.
Speaker 4: Doesn't need to see it.
Speaker 3: But there's gonna be some cool things that Brian Flores
Speaker 3: is gonna do with Agent zero that I feel like
Speaker 3: if it works. And there's the thing about the coach,
Speaker 3: It's like spaghetti. You throw it against the refrigerators, even sticks.
Speaker 3: If it sticks, it's ready to go. If it falls
Speaker 3: to the ground, put that thing back in the water.
Speaker 3: Let's try something else. So when you think about Marcus Davenport,
Speaker 3: how they can use him moving around within this defense,
Speaker 3: being on the same side as Daniel Hunter, because Danil
Speaker 3: Hunter hasn't been here, so they haven't even been able
Speaker 3: to do that stuff yet. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 3: cool to see where he goes because he's a guy
Speaker 3: that's been hurt.
Speaker 4: He's a guy that got drafted with.
Speaker 3: High expectations and then injuries kind of set them back.
Speaker 3: It only takes one or two good years of health
Speaker 3: and being healthy like Zadarius, where you can actually show
Speaker 3: the world like I still got it. And I think
Speaker 3: Marcus Davenport one will benefit from Daniel Hunter because all
Speaker 3: eyes are going to be on him, speaking of Tupac
Speaker 3: and Cooper Cup, all eyes are gonna be on Daniel Hunter.
Speaker 4: But when you look at.
Speaker 3: Where Marcus Davenport fits, he's a guy where a lot
Speaker 3: of teams aren't scared of him, so he can early
Speaker 3: come in and get one on one. He can get
Speaker 3: some matchups versus fullbacks and tight ends where you have to.
Speaker 3: If you can't beat the tight end as an outside
Speaker 3: linebacker rush linebacker, you're not gonna last in this league
Speaker 3: long tackles Monoy Mono.
Speaker 5: Yeah, tag in.
Speaker 3: Tight ends aren't typically guys that are great in past rush.
Speaker 3: And I think Mark his dad board is going to
Speaker 3: benefit from the fact that Daniel Hunter is going to
Speaker 3: have a lot of protection go his way.
Speaker 2: No, I like that a lot.
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of these non skill guys
Speaker 1: that we may talk about right now are trying to
Speaker 1: They're in their second contract, so they're trying to earn
Speaker 1: their potential back like they had a lot of promise
Speaker 1: and now they're really just trying to elongate their career
Speaker 1: to make it go a bit further.
Speaker 2: And I think that with Dalvin Tomlinson leaving.
Speaker 1: It's literally and figuratively a large hole there in the
Speaker 1: line that is left open. And for me, it's Dean
Speaker 1: Lowry that I'm still trying to allow the pads aren
Speaker 1: I really want to see his physicality and and his
Speaker 1: versatility out there. It's someone that you know, I think
Speaker 1: we brought on pretty early in the free agency process
Speaker 1: as a to literally plug the hole there, because I
Speaker 1: don't think that you know, he's not going to be like,
Speaker 1: you can't replace someone like Dalvin Tomlinson because he's just
Speaker 1: so gifted at his position and get some nice stalwart
Speaker 1: play right there.
Speaker 2: I think Tomlinson left the team with like eighteen the
Speaker 2: team with eighteen last year.
Speaker 1: So if you can get a little bit that production
Speaker 1: out of Lowry, I think that could be my guide
Speaker 1: to watch up there in the front.
Speaker 2: Where As Harrison.
Speaker 1: Phillips likes to call it where the doggy hydrant is
Speaker 1: that they just get peed on the whole time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, for me, it's it's basically the guy's completely opposite
Speaker 6: across from a Lowry on that one I one thing
Speaker 6: that's been bugging me all year, and it was something
Speaker 6: that even last year was a storyline at the end
Speaker 6: of the year, was that interior offensive line play. But
Speaker 6: you know, between Bradbury, Cleveland and Ingram and so you know,
Speaker 6: there's rumor swirling about possible people coming in to visit,
Speaker 6: et cetera, et cetera. But once you get pads on,
Speaker 6: that's where you're gonna find out, you know, what's really
Speaker 6: going to happen. Because Darisaw we all feel like we
Speaker 6: know what he is at this point, O'Neill's coming off
Speaker 6: an injury and you assume that he's going to get
Speaker 6: back to his his.
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl form.
Speaker 6: But those three guys in the middle, there's been a
Speaker 6: lot of question marks just in general on you know,
Speaker 6: are these the guys that we need in order to
Speaker 6: be able to make sure there's not that that rush
Speaker 6: right up the middle, because that's an absolute killer for
Speaker 6: a quarterback trying to be able to sit in a
Speaker 6: comfortable pocket. Kirk had to do a lot of moving
Speaker 6: last year, and I'm hoping that whatever's happening there within
Speaker 6: the interior offensive line, they can show that up to
Speaker 6: give him more time, because we've all seen it.
Speaker 5: You give him time and he's going to be deadly.
Speaker 6: So I just want to see what's gonna happen between
Speaker 6: those three guys, and if those guys get a lot
Speaker 6: more stout this year, I think not only in pass pro,
Speaker 6: but even on the running game, Madison's gonna need, you know,
Speaker 6: some lanes to run through. So for those three guys,
Speaker 6: it's just super keen for me to see what they
Speaker 6: do this year.
Speaker 5: All three good points offensive line. You gotta have that
Speaker 5: to keep kirkup. Got to have a pass rush tatam
Speaker 5: you gotta have a good a good person in the
Speaker 5: middle that can stop to run. I'm gonna go linebacker,
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna go Jordan Hicks simply because if you
Speaker 5: look it towards the end of the year, he was
Speaker 5: the one that was getting subbed out for Brian Asamoa.
Speaker 4: Eric.
Speaker 5: It was Eric Kendricks and Brian Asamoa the last couple
Speaker 5: of games of the year, like when they had that
Speaker 5: Joker package. If you know if the joker package is.
Speaker 5: Brian Asamoa talked about it in our most recent interview
Speaker 5: and chopping it up the other week, and what did
Speaker 5: Jordan Higgs work on this offseason? Like? Is it speed?
Speaker 5: Is it strength? Is it? Like I'm excited to see it?
Speaker 5: Can't He comes here with a new juice, a new energy.
Speaker 5: He understands what's on the line. He took a pay
Speaker 5: cut to be with the team again this offseason. So
Speaker 5: what does that look like having the green dot being
Speaker 5: the guy that's gonna call the place for this defense.
Speaker 5: Like I'm excited. I'm just looking at him now and
Speaker 5: he has his hat on backwards. He has this new
Speaker 5: young energy that you can tell is affecting the defense
Speaker 5: in a positive way, but we don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's the old guy in the room now with
Speaker 6: a bunch of young guys that are coming up. And
Speaker 6: we always just kind of looked at Eric Kendricks as
Speaker 6: that leader in that room. And now Jordan Hicks is
Speaker 6: that guy. He's got to be the man in that room.
Speaker 6: And yeah, there's a lot of young guys and looking
Speaker 6: at you know, awesome all and pace and some of
Speaker 6: these other guys that are going to be trying to
Speaker 6: figure it all out. I just feel like a guy
Speaker 6: like Hicks really has to step up here because he's
Speaker 6: the veteran leader in that room.
Speaker 5: Now, all right, next topic, now that we're talking about players,
Speaker 5: see the guys out here FOREL like everybody's looking at
Speaker 5: walk through, which was the ultimate goal of today to
Speaker 5: actually get outside watch walk through. See these guys in
Speaker 5: their mental element instead of their physical element. And the
Speaker 5: mental aspect is a huge part of the game. So
Speaker 5: when you look at guys that have stood out thus far,
Speaker 5: I know there's as we record this, there's only been
Speaker 5: one day of padded practice, but Tatum, when you look
Speaker 5: at some of the guys that have stood out, who
Speaker 5: Who's Who's a player that really comes to mind for me?
Speaker 2: It's Lewis Scene Okay.
Speaker 1: I just feel like he has a newfound purpose and energy,
Speaker 1: and I know that his season didn't go the way
Speaker 1: it wanted to last year. And I think that his
Speaker 1: last press conference that he did, I.
Speaker 2: Think yesterday after the first padded practice, just.
Speaker 1: Gave me a little bit more tell into why it's
Speaker 1: kind of clicking for him. He said, this is very
Speaker 1: similar to what he's been doing in college. It's under
Speaker 1: that same Patriots umbrella, the Bill Belichick, Nick Saban, Kirby
Speaker 1: Smith styles.
Speaker 2: He feels like he has a lot.
Speaker 1: More free eat them, and you know, context clues will
Speaker 1: kind of give it away, like how did how the
Speaker 1: way that he spoke about this, He just feels like
Speaker 1: he's being himself out there. He's aggressive. He literally had
Speaker 1: this one play. I still can't get it out of
Speaker 1: my head. I think, like, what are they? It's like
Speaker 1: one of those things will keep you up at night.
Speaker 1: He just like like it was like a missile just
Speaker 1: like coming through in front of I think it was
Speaker 1: Jalen Riger and it almost looked like he's supermandove and
Speaker 1: just like snatched the ball out of the way, and
Speaker 1: it was just like a really impressive hustle play.
Speaker 2: And I think.
Speaker 1: With this defense in particular and what they're gonna ask
Speaker 1: if these guys, I think he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna really shine.
Speaker 1: And he's just popped off for me, the new attitude,
Speaker 1: the I'm really sick and tired of y'all asking me
Speaker 1: how my leg is and I'm gonna let you watch
Speaker 1: me play on the field and then you'll know how
Speaker 1: my leg is right, So that's kind of I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's been really I've been really impressed with him this camp.
Speaker 5: I've been impressed with seeing Ron Johnson out here, Like
Speaker 5: this is the most I've seen Ron at this early
Speaker 5: part of training camp and my four ears being an
Speaker 5: employee here. So Ryan, you've seen almost a handful of practices. Now,
Speaker 5: So who are some guys that stand up? Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know, like this year was different.
Speaker 3: You know, normally you don't have to come to every
Speaker 3: practice because you know most of the guys.
Speaker 4: And this is a year for me that there's so
Speaker 4: many new faces.
Speaker 3: But here's a repeat face that I feel like is
Speaker 3: gonna have kind of a breakout year. He's even said
Speaker 3: he wants to be I think the best cam buying them.
Speaker 3: And the reason I say is about Cam buying them
Speaker 3: is he's being actd to do a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4: I know. One of the.
Speaker 3: Practices he was as a far hash safety. So far
Speaker 3: hash means that the ball's on the right hash. He's
Speaker 3: on the left hash safety. Harrison Smith's on the near
Speaker 3: hash as they call it. At the snap he ran
Speaker 3: and became the robber. I guess you want to call it.
Speaker 3: In the flat Harrison Smith ran back there basically a
Speaker 3: simple cover three, but to get to it was so spectacular,
Speaker 3: and he read Kirk Cousin's eyes and so instead of
Speaker 3: just going right to the flat, he ran to where
Speaker 3: the ball was going. He almost picked it off, he
Speaker 3: knocked it out the air. But when you see him
Speaker 3: move at that speed, I can tell he's not thinking anymore.
Speaker 3: I can tell he's playing with instinct. Even watching walk through,
Speaker 3: just watching the numerous places he's lined up over the
Speaker 3: last seven plays shows that he's one of the guys.
Speaker 4: And this is the thing I always remember about Ed
Speaker 4: Reid and Will Demps when we played for the Ravens.
Speaker 3: Ed Reid as a young guy, Brian Billick and Rex
Speaker 3: Ryan trusted every to say, look, we're gonna give you
Speaker 3: a lot of different looks. I remember Troy pop Molo
Speaker 3: was similar, We're gonna give you a lot of different looks.
Speaker 3: That needs a lot of different stuff. Harrison Smith has
Speaker 3: to be like Hawkeye from Avengers. You got to sip
Speaker 3: in that nest in the back with the bow and arrow,
Speaker 3: and you're just taking taking shots when you need to.
Speaker 3: Cam bying them has to be able to move within
Speaker 3: this defense and be very smart because if he's telling
Speaker 3: him line up and cover four, but you're gonna show
Speaker 3: a cover two, he's got to understand how to get
Speaker 3: that look. And now cam buying him as a cornerback
Speaker 3: from college knowing he can cover in space.
Speaker 4: I really think he stood out like I like the
Speaker 4: way he plays.
Speaker 3: I like the speed in which he's playing, which shows
Speaker 3: that he's understanding understanding Brian Floyd's defense. Because Kirk Cousins
Speaker 3: and Justin Jeffson both said this, I heard him both
Speaker 3: their pressers. What's been different, Well, we don't have to
Speaker 3: learn a new offense. Well, I think cam bying them
Speaker 3: is learning a new defense. But you don't feel that
Speaker 3: pressure from them. They're like, look, we're learning a new defense,
Speaker 3: but we're happy to learn this one because the one
Speaker 3: last year wasn't great for us as a team because
Speaker 3: it didn't fit what we do well. And now I
Speaker 3: feel like Brian Flores is literally taking each player, watching
Speaker 3: what they do well, say here's the defense I'm going
Speaker 3: to put together. And I think that's why you know,
Speaker 3: cam buying them so far to me has been he's
Speaker 3: been running and flying around the field.
Speaker 5: That's great, you know for me.
Speaker 6: I also it's a guy who literally and figuratively has
Speaker 6: been standing out walking out here as a guy in
Speaker 6: Josh Oliver. He's a guy for me that I'm really
Speaker 6: curious to see because We've had a lot of talk
Speaker 6: this offseason since the signing. People are like, he doesn't
Speaker 6: have a ton of stats, you know last year, only
Speaker 6: had what fourteen receptions last season, But the idea with him,
Speaker 6: they were saying, you know, he's one of the best
Speaker 6: past pass pro and even running tight ends in the league.
Speaker 6: And so with that being the case, you know you've
Speaker 6: already he started to see some people commenting on some
Speaker 6: of the run plays and seeing him stand some of
Speaker 6: those defensive ends and linebackers up on those practice plays,
Speaker 6: and so a guy like Josh Oliver, I really want
Speaker 6: to see what he's gonna do for this offense and
Speaker 6: if it just makes this offense even more versatile given
Speaker 6: what happened last season. So for me, it's Josh Oliver
Speaker 6: oh Man, that.
Speaker 5: Would be so so beneficial to this team. If Josh
Speaker 5: Oliver has a great year, I'm gonna go with Jowan Williams,
Speaker 5: just not really understanding his story until about two weeks ago.
Speaker 5: I believe he's prime for another, well not even for another,
Speaker 5: but before a big year. He's been injury prone the
Speaker 5: past couple of years. Finally got his first start in
Speaker 5: the NFL last year in year three with the New
Speaker 5: England Patriots, and then made the most of it, got injured,
Speaker 5: got injured, reserve and it never you know, essentially worked
Speaker 5: out for him. But there's like a new, new, redefined
Speaker 5: purpose in his I guess the way he approaches the game.
Speaker 5: I mean, we already know he's he has the physical abilities.
Speaker 5: He's sixty two sixty three, looks like a linebacker out there.
Speaker 5: He's like Harrison Smith's size basically playing cornerback. So I'm
Speaker 5: excited to see what he can do. Uh, not really
Speaker 5: knowing too much about him. I think a lot of
Speaker 5: defenses or offenses, excuse me, offenses are going to take
Speaker 5: him for granted because it's just like, oh, this is
Speaker 5: a former second rounder who's been hurt, never really got
Speaker 5: the opportunity, and let's check fade to his side. So
Speaker 5: I think he's going to play with a chip on
Speaker 5: his shoulder, and I think that's going to make this defense,
Speaker 5: not only this defense, but this entire team a lot
Speaker 5: better as we close, as we close out training camp,
Speaker 5: is is there anything else you guys want to see?
Speaker 5: As pads continued to come on, we started to get
Speaker 5: into preseason games and we probably won't see the starters
Speaker 5: until week one at Homing it's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah.
Speaker 3: For me, I want to see Jordan Adison impress, like
Speaker 3: I want to see one on ones. I want to
Speaker 3: see him in press because everybody keep talking about this
Speaker 3: weight you one hundred and seventy pounds, hundred and seventy
Speaker 3: five pounds, forgetting that DeVonta Adams was won sixty six
Speaker 3: and I got a chance to you know, neck with
Speaker 3: you know, Keenan McCardell and just listening to how he
Speaker 3: talks about Jordan Addison's size, and I think that's the key,
Speaker 3: is like Jordan Adisen's size is not a problem. Why
Speaker 3: because he's been that size his whole life. You know,
Speaker 3: if it's one thing, if he was like two hundred
Speaker 3: pounds all of a sudden lost weight or something, or
Speaker 3: he was one seventy eight, he gain thirty pounds, or
Speaker 3: how do you play. He's been this skinny, long fast
Speaker 3: kid his whole life, so he knows how to take hits,
Speaker 3: he knows how to absorb blows, he knows how to
Speaker 3: get skinny if he's you know, dealing with the double
Speaker 3: team and all this kind of stuff. So I want
Speaker 3: to see him impress and not so much against his
Speaker 3: own teammates because we know they're gonna compete, but they're
Speaker 3: not gonna give you like I hate you slapping the face,
Speaker 3: punch to the chest. I want to see him with
Speaker 3: these joint practices, like Jordan Assen in pads, joint practice
Speaker 3: one on one. I'm all eyes, like I'm sitting right
Speaker 3: next to wherever the one on ones are, and I
Speaker 3: want to see how jordanasen because if you notice, you
Speaker 3: have to figure out who goes in the slot. If
Speaker 3: I'm a coach, I'm putting kJ Osborn or Justin Jefferson
Speaker 3: because I know they've been there before and I know
Speaker 3: I can dictate coverage by putting Jefferson in a slot.
Speaker 3: You can't double a slot guy like you can double
Speaker 3: an outside guy. So I want to see what Jordanas
Speaker 3: is going to do because I feel like if you
Speaker 3: put kJ Osbourne and just Jefferson on the left, jordan
Speaker 3: As on the right, he's manned up. And if I'm
Speaker 3: manning up a guy with that speed, I probably want to.
Speaker 3: I don't want to give him too much space. I
Speaker 3: want to get in this. I want to make him uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: So it's going to be that, like can he deal
Speaker 3: with a guy like Jalen Ramsey, You know, a guy
Speaker 3: with physical presence that's going to hit you in the chest,
Speaker 3: like I mean, Xavier Rose is old. But you're gonna
Speaker 3: deal with the Buccaneers defensive backfield. They are scary, they
Speaker 3: are nasty, and they will hit you. And so that's
Speaker 3: what I want to see in this joint practices. How
Speaker 3: does he handle bigger, stronger cornerbacks than want to jam
Speaker 3: him up?
Speaker 6: For me, it is the backup quarterback situation. I want
Speaker 6: to see Jaron Hall and Nick Mullins because a lot
Speaker 6: of people have been speculating saying that we're only going
Speaker 6: to keep two quarterbacks on this roster initially. But if
Speaker 6: Jaron Hall does enough, especially in preseason, to warrant him
Speaker 6: not being able to pass through on waivers or something
Speaker 6: like that, like he's got to make the decision very
Speaker 6: difficult for the quarterback coaches and the head coach himself.
Speaker 6: So I'm going to be very curious to see just
Speaker 6: how both those guys produced here in the preseason.
Speaker 2: Well and don't you think that?
Speaker 1: And I was talking after I was talking about this
Speaker 1: with the other day, it's if you're serious about the
Speaker 1: quarterback position, like the future of the quarterback position, Like
Speaker 1: you need to make the decision of Charon Hall's your
Speaker 1: guy and how much you want to invest in this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean if you if you believe you are a
Speaker 1: team that can win the division again, you're not going
Speaker 1: to have a super low draft pick or a super high.
Speaker 2: Draft pick next season.
Speaker 1: Do you have enough draft capital to move up if
Speaker 1: that's where you're going next? If Kirk's not gonna be
Speaker 1: your guy, the next year, and if Nick Mullens isn't
Speaker 1: the future, Yeah, the decision.
Speaker 2: There is really tough if you only plan on keeping too.
Speaker 1: So that's why they get paid the big bucks to
Speaker 1: make those kinds of decisions, and we don't have.
Speaker 2: To we don't have to do that. But I think
Speaker 2: it's a really interesting situation.
Speaker 6: And the thing is Kirk's been super durable, so you
Speaker 6: really haven't had to worry too much about the idea of,
Speaker 6: you know, who's coming in behind him in case he
Speaker 6: gets hurt. But you know, you still have the future
Speaker 6: playing for that kind of stuff too, And it's like
Speaker 6: which guy gives you the best option during the season
Speaker 6: if something like that were to happen, So they still
Speaker 6: got to try to figure out, you know, what strategy
Speaker 6: they want to run with. But for me, that's why
Speaker 6: it's such a crucial battle here and training camp and
Speaker 6: and basically preseason with everything.
Speaker 3: So those are my guys, I'd say for Jaron Hall,
Speaker 3: I like that point too. I think for Nick Mullins
Speaker 3: and Jaron Hall, it's going to be actual games. Nick
Speaker 3: Mullins is going to be a pocket passer. Jaron Hall
Speaker 3: is going to be a guy that can scramble a
Speaker 3: little bit, and I think he will be able to
Speaker 3: open some eyes like on that because Kevin O'Connell talks
Speaker 3: about this the off schedule. Patrick Mahomes talks about that
Speaker 3: the off schedule, Like we heard that all through Netflix,
Speaker 3: the off schedule. Kirk Cousin said, I know I'm not
Speaker 3: a great off schedule guy. Well, if Jaron Hall comes
Speaker 3: in all of a sudden and he's like hitting the
Speaker 3: third progression read because he was able to make a
Speaker 3: guy miss and he's scrambling, and all of a sudden
Speaker 3: he makes a dot throw and then he comes back
Speaker 3: the next time, maybe runs for ten yards, gets back
Speaker 3: in the huddle, some type.
Speaker 4: Of power where he's the actual runner.
Speaker 3: People are gonna be like, oh, okay, this is something
Speaker 3: different that the Vikings have not had. And it's not
Speaker 3: to say he can't become that guy, because we know,
Speaker 3: like Russell Wilson was drafting the third round, you know,
Speaker 3: there's been some Dak Prescott was in the forefront. There's
Speaker 3: been some late round guys that have actually gotten into
Speaker 3: games and then open up a ton of eyes, So like, oh,
Speaker 3: this guy could be our future. And so I think
Speaker 3: for Jaron Hall, it's gonna be games in practice. He
Speaker 3: hasn't had some great practices. But again, as a QB
Speaker 3: in this league, at this level, your head is swimming,
Speaker 3: you know, Anthony Richardson, Bryce Young, those guys are getting
Speaker 3: c J strout, They're getting the playbook fed to them,
Speaker 3: spoon fed. Hey, you need to know this. Jaron Hall
Speaker 3: is being thrown to the wolves. Yeah, get out there,
Speaker 3: here you go. I don't have a ton of time
Speaker 3: to spend. You got to pick up what I'm telling
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins. So it's a big difference when you're number
Speaker 3: one drafted and when you're drafted as a potential backup
Speaker 3: third quarterback.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you're the number one, they're kind of catering
Speaker 6: the playbook to what you can do well, and a
Speaker 6: guy like him, it's you know, get in here because
Speaker 6: we're feeding Kirk at this point, so you better get
Speaker 6: on the page what we want. The one thing I
Speaker 6: remember watching a couple BYU games with jarn Hall when
Speaker 6: it would get to those situations where he'd be scrambling,
Speaker 6: he'd be looking downfield, but you could kind of tell
Speaker 6: like he just prefers to tuck the rock and run.
Speaker 6: So you know, Now I was really curious, Like I've
Speaker 6: been talking for the last how many years saying, if
Speaker 6: you look at some of the guys that have been
Speaker 6: coming out with your Russell Wilson's and Kyler Murray and
Speaker 6: some of those guys that were more baseball oriented, and
Speaker 6: they have that kind of Patrick Mahomes arm to him
Speaker 6: kind of a thing, like all of those guys have
Speaker 6: the ability to on the on the run make just
Speaker 6: unorthodox throws. And so when Jaren Hall had the baseball background,
Speaker 6: he likes to run that kind of stuff, And like,
Speaker 6: how's that going to translate when he gets to the
Speaker 6: pros Because if he's stuttering at all when he's trying
Speaker 6: to make his progressions, he's going to miss his windows
Speaker 6: to throw. But if he's somebody that can actually put
Speaker 6: it together all across the board that way and make
Speaker 6: those split decisions, and he's got the athleticism on his
Speaker 6: feet and he's got the ability to throw the ball accurately,
Speaker 6: Like that's a potential diamond in the rough that you
Speaker 6: took in the later chunk of the draft. So he's
Speaker 6: been one of my guys from the beginning when we
Speaker 6: draft him, Like, if this guy pans out. This is
Speaker 6: a huge, huge get for this offense, especially in a
Speaker 6: position that we've been looking for, you know, future proof
Speaker 6: guys for a very long time.
Speaker 5: Man, that would be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the whole.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why you draft later quarterbacks just in
Speaker 1: case they're that the one guy that did.
Speaker 5: The Tom Brady yes, and I mean Cracy, that's what
Speaker 5: he's known for. I mean, he's been in organizations where
Speaker 5: in San Francisco where you never draft a quarterback in
Speaker 5: the first round. You pretty much build a system around
Speaker 5: him and let the quarterback just be that final piece
Speaker 5: of the puzzle and just make sure he doesn't make
Speaker 5: any mistakes. So we know Kirk can do a little
Speaker 5: bit more than that. That's why a lot of teams
Speaker 5: won them. And I'm glad that he's in purple. But
Speaker 5: still to have a guy in Jaron Hall and Nick
Speaker 5: Mullins behind you're starting quarterback and Kirk Cousins, I believe
Speaker 5: this offense will still be very, very good in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty three. Well, guys, appreciate you. Today was a lot
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Speaker 4: I don't think they're doing They should.
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