WEBVTT - MVP: Ron Johnson Joins Our Crew From Vikings Training Camp, Discusses Danielle Hunter's New Contract | Episode 229 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.680 Lifetime, the official athletic country Club of the Minnesota Vikings, 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:05.880 has something for every member of your family. 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.280 Get your family going today at Lifetime, Dot Life Forward, 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:10.160 slash Kits. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.800 I mean there's players that do it with their mouth, 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:20.520 they talk a lot, but then there's guys that do 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:21.759 it on the field, and I think the nails that 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:23.239 do it on the field. Guy like, they're going to 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:25.560 see his work ethic, They're going to see all the 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:26.040 things he. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.920 Does pre practice, pre warm up. You know, he's big 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:30.720 into the body like he has a body guy. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.080 If you want to call him there he hit a 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:33.839 nail on the head, Thul. 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.360 I mean Brian and Neils always said, you know, going 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.520 against Neil Hunter has made me a better professional. 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.279 All right, Welcome to the Minnesota Vikings Podcast Training Competition. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.520 My name is Gabe Henderson. We are outside the Twin 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.360 Cities Orthopedics Performance Center recording this podcast and I'm alongside 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:56.360 Tatum Everett, Jay Notson, and our friend Ron Johnson. Eric Davidson, 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.880 who I guess is going by DJE, is the producer. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.600 Tatum said he looks like a DJ with this setup today, 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.880 which is different from our normal setup inside the TCO 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.039 Radio studio, but so excited to watch walkthroughs right now. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.040 The offensive linemen are coming out, the kickers and punters 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.759 are out here, and it has been a very very 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.759 interesting week so far. As we record this on a Tuesday, 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.640 Monday was the first day of paddick practice, and right 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:26.160 before practice started, the Vikings officially reached a one year 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:30.119 deal with the Neil Hunter for seventeen million, which can 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:34.080 be up to twenty million with incentives. And yesterday at practice, 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.760 you felt Danil's just presence. He didn't practice at all 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.280 in team drills, but just his presence alone, his physical stature. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.160 I know. Caraacy Tatum talked to Quaycy and he said, 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.760 and Caracy basically said, Danil got bigger this offseason because 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.920 he wasn't training or rehabbing an injury. So Ron just 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.480 looking at Danil's presence having him back this year, what 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:56.680 does that mean for this defense? 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.760 I mean, have you ever watched the Avengers would Outthoor 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:00.920 like That's that's what I feel like when I see 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.840 Danail Hunter like Thor was on yesterday, and uh, you 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:05.960 know they're for those who have seen the first one 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.720 of the first Avengers Thor movies. He gets the hammer 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:11.760 taken away from him, and then he has to earn 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.280 it back. You know, he feels like he's not Thor, 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.640 and then all of a sudden, lightning strikes. He looks 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.239 super cut up and it's just Thor. And that's what 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.600 daneil Hunter reminds me of. Like daneil Hunter without the money, 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:23.760 without the uniform, not being around here is kind of 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.360 like Thor without the hammer. 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:26.320 They give him that. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.120 Twenty million dollars. Like you see, I mean, he posted 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.239 the picture of himself. I feel like the NFL is 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.320 gonna drug test them, Like I don't saw that picture. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.520 It looked like he had just got done. Yeah, it 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.800 looks like he just got done lifting weights, like you know, 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.720 he had to looks like I mean, I remember, I'm 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:42.679 old enough to remember Ultimate Warrior and he used to 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.120 wear those armbands to make. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:44.959 His veins pop out. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.440 Daniel does that without armbands and so yeah, I mean, 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.320 when you see a guy that size, if you're a 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.160 defense and I always talk about guys that what my 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.200 dad used to say, this, Let's send the biggest guy 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.320 off the bus first to intimidate the other team. Sure, 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.639 Daniel Hunter's that guy, like I would send him and 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.760 Christian saw off the bus first because those are two big, 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:07.440 imposing guys. But also I love watching Sauce Gardner Verus 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.680 gear Wilson in training camp. Right now with the Jets, 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.800 I feel like Daneil Hunter, Marcus Davenport are gonna make 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.880 sure you the better, same way Z did with Daniel, 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:16.839 and then they're gonna make Christian dare So I'm Brian 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:18.960 O'Neil better because they're gonna go against him every day, 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.480 and so I think it's all encompassing of a team 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.680 of like, here's our best pass rusher, and if I'm 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.760 a cornerback, I feel comfortable knowing like that quarterback probably 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.280 when he has three seconds, and I think that's what 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:30.480 Daniel Hunter brings his team. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.119 Yeah, while Brian O'Neill did not practice, it's not practicing 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.160 right now. He did post a picture on his Instagram 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.960 welcoming Daniel back, basically with the picture of them doing 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.040 a one on one last year at training camp. So Tatum, 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.520 just understanding Denot's presence, how did they feel seeing him 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:43.880 out here? 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.680 I mean, you hit it right on the nail on 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:46.080 the head, Thum. 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.920 I mean Brian O'Neil's always said, you know, going against 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.800 Daniel Hunter has made me a better professional. 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.280 So he just adds he elevates it. It's a young defense. 0:03:55.320 --> 0:04:00.000 They got very very young after this free agency period, 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:04.280 in the new signing and the draft, and so I 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.000 think having a veteran presence in there is super is 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.480 super helpful. I love that Qracy mentioned the rehabbing thing, 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.360 but then he said, you know, we just went the 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.760 baddest dudes on the schoolyard, and he's a bad dude, 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.800 and the defense can walk a little taller knowing that 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.760 Daniel Hunters on their team this time around. I mean, 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.600 I'm a little interested to see or if I could 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.000 be a fly on the wall in the conversations of 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.600 Danil and Marcus Davenport, because they're both very soft spoken, 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:38.080 very introspective. They are not the biggest personalities. And so 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.000 you know, you had Zadarius last year, which was quite 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.960 the opposite. So now at these two, it's kind of 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.680 like you've got these like like zen Masters assassins. 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.159 There you go, yeah, yeah, I mean Zadarius and Daniel 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.640 accounted for twenty and a half sacks last year and 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.640 they only had thirty eight total as a team, So 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:57.200 like that one two punch was incredibly important last year, 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.719 and hopefully, you know, Hunter and and Davenport are going 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:01.880 to be able to kind of pick up where that 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.960 left off. I just know that towards the back end 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.240 of the season, the pass rush just wasn't there, and 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:12.919 so needing that to return to form. Hoping that Flores 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.640 with his scheme coming up here and adding a guy 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.920 like him now formally into that lineup, I think that's 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:20.640 going to be a big, big deal. So they need 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.200 as much pass rush as rush as they can, and 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.560 a guy like Daniel Hunter is somebody that you can 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.680 definitely form that cornerstone from given his track given his 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:31.239 track record the last six years. 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:35.440 Yeah, the track record speaks for itself. Over seventy sacks, 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.679 the first player NFO history to fifty well, the youngest 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:42.160 player in NFL history to fifty sacks. And we understand 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.240 what he does when he's off the field, But ron 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.760 for this locker room that has so many young guys, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.400 young cornerbacks, young linebackers. What is a guy Daniel who 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.560 doesn't talk much. What does that provide this locker room 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.280 that needs that veteran leadership. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.000 Yeah, I mean there's. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.920 Players that do it with their mouth, they talk a lot, 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:00.400 but then there's guys that do it field And I 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.080 think Daniel's a do it on the field guy. Like, 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.720 they're gonna see his work ethic, They're gonna see all 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:05.960 the things he does. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.400 Pre practice, pre warm up. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.280 You know, he's big into the body, like he has 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.120 a body guy, if you want to call him that, 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.840 that he does all these weird like karate type workouts 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.760 and all these weird like acrobatic aerobic type workouts. And 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.520 then think about Patrick Mahomes, Like we got to see 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:25.039 Patrick Mahomes on Netflix doing this type of crap where 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.840 you put your body in weird positions and say, now 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.840 throw a ball. So Daniel does the same thing. Put 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.880 your body into a position, now try to get past 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.360 the passers. Now try to swim me. Because what happens 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.960 in the game is a lot of players don't realize 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.800 you're in weird predicaments. And we see Daniel Hunter get 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.000 solo to the ground, dip that shoulder. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:42.640 He's able to do it. 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.240 But then you'll see him warming up with the coaches 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.200 with the hand pads with rubber bands and all kinds 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.200 of things, and so I think for the younger players 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.039 you see that too. Daniel Hunter is a guy that's 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.120 gonna put his body first, rest, stand out standing away 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.200 from being out late at night. I think that's another key. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.160 The younger a team, the more they end up in 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.320 a club. I'll never forget what the coach when Reggie 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.080 Wayne got married and Howard Mudd, the offensive line coach, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:07.880 when we are joking about it, because I was like, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:09.240 you know, Reggie was one of my guys, and I 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.480 was like, hey, Reggie, he's gonna be, you know whatever, 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:12.960 a couple of minutes late because he said he had 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:13.880 to drop his wife off. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:15.720 And Howard Mud was like, what, Reggie got married? He 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.320 was like, the streets of Indianapolis are safer. 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.080 And I think that's where that comes into this play 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.640 of like having veteran guys that you don't ever see, 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:26.880 like Daniel Hunter's never been in the media for being 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.640 out late. He's never been in the media for a duy, 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.239 and I think that's another big part of this team 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.280 is having veterans that can explain that to these younger guys, like, look, 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.680 if you want this twenty million dollars, if you want 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.040 this seventy two million dollars. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:40.360 This is how you get it. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.200 And I think that's huge for a group of young 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.120 guys coming in because you really don't know. For me 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.480 coming as a rookie, you know, I had Ray Lewis. 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:48.960 We had Pete Bowaer who. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:49.280 Was an older guy. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.000 We had Mike McCrary, We had the Dailius Thomas and 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.520 so those guys we had, even. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.679 Matt Stover as a punter or a kicker. He would 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:58.239 tell us stuff. 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.440 And so I think that's the thing is having those 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.640 older guys to explain to a team because when you 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.880 go like teams say, oh there's the youngest team in NFL, 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:06.960 look at all the drama that happens. Like look at 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.160 the Cleveland Browns right now. They've had two fights and 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.240 they've had to run like they're in high school. So 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.920 that's the things you're not going to see, hopefully with 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:14.800 a veteran group. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:15.080 You know. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.560 The thing with Hunter two is he just turns twenty 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.240 nine in October, so like he should still have another 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.520 fun five six years in this league at this point, 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:25.680 and he's playing on a contract here. You know, he's 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.360 got the idea that he's going to be advocating for 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.640 himself on the field for what's going to happen for 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.240 his future contract next year, given the way that the 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.679 terms were worked out here with this deal with the Viking. 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.880 So it just feels like with Hunter, he's going to 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.800 have to be the guy who his play is going 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.400 to dictate what happens for Brian Flores on this because 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:47.760 he's going to get the double teams. He's going to 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.120 be the guy that's gonna be the focal point at 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.320 least at that point of attack on the line. And 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.160 I just feel like he absolutely knows that that's the case, 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.400 and so he's going to have to embrace that. And 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.440 I think for a guy like Jim, you're talking the 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.520 Mahomes thing and just putting him in a weird positions 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.480 and weird situations for a guy like him who's so 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.160 good off the snap and with his lean, you know, 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.480 those kind of pieces are the things that kind of 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.200 make him his bread and butter, and so the strength 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:12.920 is going to be able to get him a little separation, 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.760 and that's the kind of thing. If he can still 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:16.920 be as explosive as he has been over the last 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.120 few seasons, I think you know he's going to be 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.920 back to what four Pro Bowls out of the last 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.160 five years kind of a situation for him. And so 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.160 I'm just looking at daneil Hunter as kind of the 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.679 focal point really on this defense. To really be the guy, 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:29.560 you have to build her own. 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.200 Yeah, I think it's also note like I think it's 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.120 part of this like acclimation process for him too, because 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.400 like sure he was rehabbing the last few years, but 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.319 he needs to understand this defense and get into the 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.480 swing of things for a while. So I don't even 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:46.280 know if we see that until the season starts. See 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:47.959 what Brian Forest can do, because you can watch it 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.160 practice all you want, but I don't think he's going 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.800 to be that up to speed with everything. Well by 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.200 next preseason game, we may see him a couple couple 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.600 of series and then not so much. 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.599 I'd say Kevin O'Connell last didn't really play any of 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.160 the top guys. So I mean a guy like Daniel Hunter, 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.520 you're right, like he like Brian floores Like talking to 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.360 coach Chris Rump, he said, this is a brand new 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.600 canvas and they're painting what the defenses looked like. So 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.440 you're right, like, I think it's gonna be absolute chaos, 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.440 and Daniel's gonna have to understand the calls and what 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:19.080 does this mean? 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:20.120 And where do I go here? 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.600 It's a three four, he's technically a four to three 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.400 d N. So yeah, so I think danil because I mean, honestly, 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.560 you you think a little bit about the team, but 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.480 you're also like, look, I might be traded, Like how 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.400 much am I going how much time I'm gonna waste? 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.800 You know, until I know you guys really want me? 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:36.960 And you know who knows what Because Vin O'Connell said 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.480 conversations we then have a conversation with with Daniel Hunter. 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:41.439 So yeah, but I think this is gonna be the 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.679 key for him. How fast and him and Marcus Davenport 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.599 get on the same page because you're right, him and 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.920 z right away we're taking pictures together. They were meet 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.559 me at the quarterback two point oh. They had the 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.200 celebration dance the. 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:56.080 Season right that we never saw again. I never saw 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:57.560 the dance in the game, even though they did have 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:58.480 twenty and a half sacks. 0:10:58.600 --> 0:10:59.120 Yeah, true. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.840 One thing I was really interested though too. Flores had 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.160 kind of somebody had asked the question about him dropping 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.760 back in past coverage and just kind of saying like, yeah, 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.720 we're going to be a little more selective kind of 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.080 and how that goes. And I think for a guy 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.880 like him, Flores's whole thing was saying, we're just wanting 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.040 to turn him up field right and let him create havoc. 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.000 So that's the whole thing is if everything could be 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.480 sound behind him in that linebacker position and even in 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.160 the back in the secondary, a guy like Danil, if 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.360 he can get back to form of just being that 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:27.920 demon to you know, take off on the ball, I 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:29.360 think that's going to be a huge deal for them. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.840 Oh that would be so great. And you look at 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:36.000 just the guys that have been getting reps behind Denil 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.200 since he hasn't been here the first week, DJ Wantam 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.560 Patrick Jones says, like all both of those guys have 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.679 really got some valuable reps. And I believe that's only 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.640 going to make Daniel better this year because he knows 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.640 he has guys behind him that are coming to rust 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.199 the quarterback. Speaking of a quarterback position, Kirk Cousins, it 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:57.080 was recently announced that he was ranked forty second overall 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.959 in the NFL Top one hundred and if you aren't 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.920 aware of the NFL Top one hundred. This is a 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.719 pier list. Well, I guess NFL piers players in the 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.040 NFL vote and basically send it into the league and 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.640 basically say, okay, these are my top one hundred players. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:15.040 The NFL kind of averages that out and then releases 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.320 the list a couple of months later. So forty second overall. 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.560 Last year, Kirk was ninety nine. So when we first 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.560 were seeing the NFL Network Top one hundred list, Kirk 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.960 was the second person they got announced, and everybody's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.000 Kirk finally has this respect ron Yeah, I mean Kirk Cousins. 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.800 When you look at the even the execs list that 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.800 came out with the top quarterbacks Tier one, Tier two, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.840 Tier three, so on and so forth. By the way, Jalen 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.760 hurts erroneous on all accounts, he should never be in 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.000 tier two. But still the different conversation, you got the 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.400 social media quarterback in Justin Herbert and tier one. So 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:51.319 when you think about those quarterbacks of the twelve, and 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.800 Kirk Cousins is technically in that top twelve with Dak 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:58.320 Prescott and all those guys in that list, Jared Goffer 0:12:58.360 --> 0:12:58.920 is below him. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:00.640 He deserves to be up. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.080 There because if you put Kirk Cousins in the nineties 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.199 or the eighties, where are you putting Dak Prescott, Where 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:10.360 are you putting Justin Herbert, Where are you putting Justin Fields? 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.800 I think that's the key is Kirk Cousins, in my opinion, 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.080 has outplayed those guys. He deserves that respect. Now it's 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.120 Justin Jefferson made him better because some people are saying 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.600 that like, oh, it's easy when you could throw it up. True, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:22.959 Justin Jefferson has helped him. But at the same time, 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.079 Kirk Cousins sells to make those reds. He sells to 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:26.720 take those hits and seals to make those throws. And 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.280 I loved how he talked about that on Netflix of 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.240 like I've had to take hits, stare down a bullet, 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.199 down a barrow, and just throw the ball knowing I'm 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.800 gonna get crushed like in the Bills game, and throw 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.160 blind passes. I think Kirk Cousins now people are understanding 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.760 he is good. Guys like Santana Moss came on My 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.560 show and talked about that that he said he loved 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.320 Kirk when he's in Washington, he said, this whole primetime 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.240 thing is not a Kirk, It's a whole team thing. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.439 And I think more and more players are going to 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:54.080 start to come. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.679 To bat for Kirk cousins simply for the fact of 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.319 you know, his wife and him are they know they're 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.400 da dad mom swag like they're they're at Costco shopping 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:02.880 for clothes. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.240 You know, shit, they're exactly millionaire. 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.440 Oh, Costco has some good deals when you're looking at 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.720 if you look at for Gopher gear, Vikan's gear, go 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:11.280 to Costco. 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.240 Like, guess some good deals for kids for sure? 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.200 Sound like a true dad adult t shirts. 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.120 Oh yeah, yeah, if we can find some some Vikings 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.520 gear Gopher's gear at Costco, why not? But yeah, the 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.240 Cole's cash and saning. Kurt has a nice new plaid shirt. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.640 But I think forty second is right where he should be. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:27.760 I think that's a nice. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:28.520 Number for him. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:29.040 Uh. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:30.480 In order to get in that because people are like, 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.840 what's that top twenty five, you've got to win multiple 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.120 playoff games, like you've got to win the wild card, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.560 you gotta win the divisional, and you got to win 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.800 the championship, like you've got to win to be considered 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.760 like Patrick Mahomes without the wins, is just another quarterback 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:44.720 that makes great throws. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.040 That's where Josh Allen is. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.480 He's a great quarterback, but he's not winning. He's not 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.520 beating Patrick Mose, he's not beating Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow's 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.640 going to be up there because of that. Justin Jefferson 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.440 is going to probably be number two or three. You know, 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:57.920 Kirk Cousins has to win, and I think that's the 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.720 next step. It's not just him though, the defense has 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.360 to hell. But like NFL Networks say it with you 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.640 with Bucky Brooks, Hey, the Vicers going to score thirty 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.600 forty points a game, and I think that's gonna be 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.880 enough to help Brian Flores out, which might be true. 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:09.720 No doubt about that. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:11.880 I mean that that's we said it on the show, 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.040 I think yesterday where it was like the defense, We've 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.040 stayed on this podcast with them. The defense doesn't have 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.920 to get that much better for this team to win. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.920 This offense can score points and score fast. I think 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.720 this is a great leap for Kirk. I mean that's 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:28.720 I wonder if he where he ranks in the biggest 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.520 leap from last year's Top one hundred rankings to this 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.000 year's hop was thinking the same thing. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.280 Then I saw like Pats or Tam wasn't ranked last 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:35.920 year anyway. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.080 Well, then there goes that. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.560 Like rankings. I get. I get that question because this 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.320 is like, sure, how high is someone jumped that was ranking? 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.560 Yeah, I mean, that's that's an incredible jump right there, 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.480 And like, I mean, I can't echo what Ron said 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.760 more just the fact that his credibility goes up. And 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.560 you know, part of me thinks that's why at least 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:58.480 one reason he would want to like take a peek 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.920 behind the curtain. Why Kirk would want people to see 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.800 what goes into this because not that it matters to 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.400 him that he has this credibility or that he gets 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.040 the masses to like him. I don't think he's worried 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.760 about that, but I do think he probably wants people 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.560 to understand what all goes into this job. And like 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.400 he also knew that if he signed on to do 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.280 this with a production company that's owned by Peyton Manning, 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:27.560 another former quarterback whose process was I bet was very similar, 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:29.880 then he knows he can trust them. 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:31.920 So I think this was all a really good move 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:33.240 by him. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.040 You know, all Not all publicity is good publicity, but 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.560 when it's great publicity, you can only imagine that maybe 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.400 this gives them a little bit of juice. I don't know, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.720 it might be kind of silly to overthink that, but 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.640 in this offseason. 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.200 I mean, he jumped ahead of Dak Prescott at fifty six, 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:48.720 Aaron Rodgers was fifty one. 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.800 Aaron Rodgers draft forty eight spots, which we. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.480 Should talking about made the biggest seriously. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:56.800 But one of the things that people have been speculating, 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.120 given who they believe is still left on this list, 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.760 is that Kirk's going to be like around the sixth 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:06.040 quarterback on the list total, and that's behind her Mahomes, Hurts, 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:10.159 Alan Burrow, and Lawrence. So for him to be in 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.640 that kind of sixth position kind of requisite from last year, 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.679 the six quarterback that was left with Matt Stafford. He 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.960 came off a Super Bowl win at number twenty eight. 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.280 So you know, a guy like Kirk, I think is 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.280 definitely starting to get more of the flowers, especially given 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.480 the season he had last year. I think it's undeniable. 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.080 When you have a guy like JJ going off on 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.280 a historic pace, there's a guy that's got to get 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:31.760 him in the ball and so to me, it just 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.840 feels like it's finally at the point where people are saying, like, listen, 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.560 this guy is putting up numbers every year. He's very consistent, 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:39.960 and he tends to be pretty steady at you, and 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.040 so you know, a guy like Kirk definitely has to 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:43.080 start getting his accolades. 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.000 That kind of brings me to my next question, because 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:51.439 the Athletic just recently put out a list basically ranking 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.040 the top ten quarterbacks, and the people who voted for 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:59.000 these I guess this list were GMS, NFL executives and insiders, 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.560 and none of those people had Kirk cousins in the 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.919 top ten. So would you much rather be ranked higher 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.159 by the executives and general managers and people inside the 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:09.960 building or your actual locker room? 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:11.680 I think they'll all say locker room. 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:16.800 Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, that's that. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:17.600 That's what I would feel. 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.320 Mean sure, like the execs GMS is ever making the decisions. 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.240 The insiders I would really not care about. 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:23.600 Got it, got it? 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:24.439 I just want it right. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.879 I agree with you. Their media Jay made a good 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:29.239 point early and I won't take it away from it. 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.240 It's Okay, Now, my gut reaction is you want the 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.359 respect of the locker rooms so that it's your peers 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.520 and everything. At the same point, you also want the 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.639 respect of the front office because that's going to get 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.359 you paid paid exactly right. But but for me, it 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.840 would definitely I think in the end, you know, if 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.760 you're somebody that's established and you're you're trying to be 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.800 a top ten quarterback, you're probably getting top ten quarterback money. 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.320 So for you, it's it's definitely going to turn into 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.280 the uh the kind of the accolades of your peers. 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.600 Conversely, would you say that if you have the respect 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.400 of your of the locker room, it could get you 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.000 further along with an EZECH or GM maybe who's on 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:02.679 the fence with you. 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.200 Potentially just depends on your leadership. 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.480 But if the front office does it likes you and 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.119 you're putting your teammates, don't that seems like a worse situation. 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:11.600 Yeah. 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.960 I think from our front office standpoint too, they're always 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:15.639 going to go to the captains or other leaders on 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.720 the team too. So I think it's it is you 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.840 do want your locker room to love you and like you, 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.600 and I think GM's also listen to the noise, because 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.160 I'm pretty sure they hear these players too. So when 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.480 you can start to like earn the respect of all 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:30.719 these players and all these other guys and all these 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.160 teams around the league, I think you're starting to change 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.000 the narrative of who you can be. And I think 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.560 that's what Kirk Cousin's doing now. He's changing that narrative. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.680 And now again also it comes down now as wins. 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.160 You can change every narrative, you can do everything you want, 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:46.760 but you gotta win. And I think that's the key 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.679 for this team. Thirteen and four is going to be 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.879 tough to repeat. But then what does it look like 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.200 If they're eleven and six is a competitive If they're 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.359 twelve and five is a competitive they're ten and seven 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:57.240 and they win the North? 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:58.399 Is it competitive? 0:19:58.400 --> 0:19:58.600 You know? 0:19:58.640 --> 0:19:59.600 Like you don't want to get. 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:03.040 Blown out every loss and then win every like last year, 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.200 you know, And that's what you can't have blowout losses 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.120 and then ridiculous wins. You got to be consistent where 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.520 it's like, man, we're winning by two touchdowns or we're 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.960 writing these games, but we're not having to come down 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.000 to the last kick. Or the last player JJ on 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.840 fourth down against the Bills, Like, you can't live like that. 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.639 You're gonna eventually, Like people say, it's like a three pointer. 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:22.480 You live by the three, you die by the three. 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:24.560 The Warriors lived by it for years and then Lebron 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:25.159 three won. 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:26.919 Them and they died by it. 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:31.440 So it just they won two cents though they did. 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:32.120 They did. 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.320 But but yeah, no, I think I think winning like 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.000 that is like the three point in the NBA. It's 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:39.840 not sustainable long term. You have to find ways to 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:41.720 put your foot on the other team's throat. And I 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.280 think that's where and we'll talk about these guys later, 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:45.880 but I think that's where some of these defensive guys 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:46.399 can help with that. 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.720 It's a success oriented business. And you start not only 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.720 winning in the regular season and everyone goes a, but 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.199 you lost in the playoffs. Now it's the next thing 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:55.560 is going to be. You got to have success in 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.679 the playoffs in order for people to get to that 0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.919 next respect level for him and to be able to 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.040 the guy that's gonna put up those numbers. Think about 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.600 guy like Matt Stafford. Everyone always looked at him, said, well, 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.200 he's playing for the Lions. He doesn't have the support 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:07.680 and stuff like that. But then he goes to a 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.760 Super Bowl winning team that's just absolutely loaded, and everyone's 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:12.920 like stick him, you know, they suck him at twenty 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.080 eighth on the list last year and now last year 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.359 they just got absolutely decimated because a ton of their 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.120 veterans and everybody left the team. And now everyone's kind 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:21.440 of like, well, it's Matt Staff for the guy really 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.080 with the rams, Like, yeah, he won a ring, but 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.280 it's what have you done for me lately? So for me, 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.840 it just turns into, you know, for Kirk, he's gonna 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.800 have to not only have a successful season, but then 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:32.760 get a you know run in the playoffs in order 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.320 for people to really feel like he's turned that corner 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.320 in order to be the veteran that people respect. 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:39.080 Yeah, as we look at Kirk Cousins on the field 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:43.200 right now, he is talking to Garrett Bradbury and they're 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.120 doing walkthroughs right now. Defenses on the far field, offenses 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.400 on the field closest to us, and you just look 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.359 at some of these offensive linemen and defensive lineman, just 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.400 the non skill guys. Ron will you when you look 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:58.199 at will you understand now that pads are on all 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:02.280 those conversations of the dB basically saying, you know, lockdown 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:05.720 it lockdown, or you know, I put the handcuffs on them. 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.160 It doesn't really mean anything because there's an actual pass rush. 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.400 So when you look at some of these intermediate positions, 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.800 offensive line, defensive line, linebackers, tight ends, who are some 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:15.600 guys that need to make that next step? 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:17.080 Well easier for me was gonna be TJ. 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.359 Howkinson, But I think everybody knows he's a star. I 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:22.080 think Marcus Davenport has to make a leap. He has 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:22.920 to be impactful. 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:23.160 One. 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:27.560 When you pick the number zero, you're all the eyes 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.000 are on you. Now you're agent zero. You're zero dark 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.560 ninety nine, like your zero whatever you want to call 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:36.679 your ground zero like you have to be able to 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.440 be And I loved watching some of the intricacies. I'm 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.639 not gonna say some of the stuff I've seen because 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:42.720 fans in the world. 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:43.320 Doesn't need to see it. 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.800 But there's gonna be some cool things that Brian Flores 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:49.000 is gonna do with Agent zero that I feel like 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.560 if it works. And there's the thing about the coach, 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:54.040 It's like spaghetti. You throw it against the refrigerators, even sticks. 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:55.840 If it sticks, it's ready to go. If it falls 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:57.240 to the ground, put that thing back in the water. 0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:01.640 Let's try something else. So when you think about Marcus Davenport, 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.440 how they can use him moving around within this defense, 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:07.840 being on the same side as Daniel Hunter, because Danil 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:09.640 Hunter hasn't been here, so they haven't even been able 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.720 to do that stuff yet. I think it's gonna be 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:13.720 cool to see where he goes because he's a guy 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:14.400 that's been hurt. 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:16.240 He's a guy that got drafted with. 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:19.760 High expectations and then injuries kind of set them back. 0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:22.439 It only takes one or two good years of health 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.320 and being healthy like Zadarius, where you can actually show 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:26.960 the world like I still got it. And I think 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:30.159 Marcus Davenport one will benefit from Daniel Hunter because all 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.400 eyes are going to be on him, speaking of Tupac 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.160 and Cooper Cup, all eyes are gonna be on Daniel Hunter. 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:37.080 But when you look at. 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:39.760 Where Marcus Davenport fits, he's a guy where a lot 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.200 of teams aren't scared of him, so he can early 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.320 come in and get one on one. He can get 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.720 some matchups versus fullbacks and tight ends where you have to. 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:49.840 If you can't beat the tight end as an outside 0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:53.080 linebacker rush linebacker, you're not gonna last in this league 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.440 long tackles Monoy Mono. 0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:56.480 Yeah, tag in. 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.280 Tight ends aren't typically guys that are great in past rush. 0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:00.800 And I think Mark his dad board is going to 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.280 benefit from the fact that Daniel Hunter is going to 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:04.600 have a lot of protection go his way. 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:05.520 No, I like that a lot. 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.880 I think that a lot of these non skill guys 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:10.919 that we may talk about right now are trying to 0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.000 They're in their second contract, so they're trying to earn 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.120 their potential back like they had a lot of promise 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.400 and now they're really just trying to elongate their career 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:21.400 to make it go a bit further. 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.360 And I think that with Dalvin Tomlinson leaving. 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.520 It's literally and figuratively a large hole there in the 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.920 line that is left open. And for me, it's Dean 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.360 Lowry that I'm still trying to allow the pads aren 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.879 I really want to see his physicality and and his 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.680 versatility out there. It's someone that you know, I think 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.119 we brought on pretty early in the free agency process 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.800 as a to literally plug the hole there, because I 0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:49.040 don't think that you know, he's not going to be like, 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.040 you can't replace someone like Dalvin Tomlinson because he's just 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:56.080 so gifted at his position and get some nice stalwart 0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:56.800 play right there. 0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:00.760 I think Tomlinson left the team with like eighteen the 0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:02.520 team with eighteen last year. 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:03.960 So if you can get a little bit that production 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.520 out of Lowry, I think that could be my guide 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.080 to watch up there in the front. 0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:09.520 Where As Harrison. 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:12.320 Phillips likes to call it where the doggy hydrant is 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.080 that they just get peed on the whole time. 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.680 Yeah, for me, it's it's basically the guy's completely opposite 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:21.119 across from a Lowry on that one I one thing 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.159 that's been bugging me all year, and it was something 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.199 that even last year was a storyline at the end 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.879 of the year, was that interior offensive line play. But 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:33.600 you know, between Bradbury, Cleveland and Ingram and so you know, 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.280 there's rumor swirling about possible people coming in to visit, 0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:38.960 et cetera, et cetera. But once you get pads on, 0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.040 that's where you're gonna find out, you know, what's really 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.439 going to happen. Because Darisaw we all feel like we 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:46.040 know what he is at this point, O'Neill's coming off 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:47.680 an injury and you assume that he's going to get 0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:48.520 back to his his. 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:49.520 Pro Bowl form. 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:51.800 But those three guys in the middle, there's been a 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.240 lot of question marks just in general on you know, 0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.119 are these the guys that we need in order to 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.920 be able to make sure there's not that that rush 0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:01.119 right up the middle, because that's an absolute killer for 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.080 a quarterback trying to be able to sit in a 0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:05.120 comfortable pocket. Kirk had to do a lot of moving 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.720 last year, and I'm hoping that whatever's happening there within 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.439 the interior offensive line, they can show that up to 0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:13.240 give him more time, because we've all seen it. 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:14.720 You give him time and he's going to be deadly. 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.199 So I just want to see what's gonna happen between 0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.280 those three guys, and if those guys get a lot 0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:23.000 more stout this year, I think not only in pass pro, 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.600 but even on the running game, Madison's gonna need, you know, 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:28.800 some lanes to run through. So for those three guys, 0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:30.959 it's just super keen for me to see what they 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:31.480 do this year. 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:35.199 All three good points offensive line. You gotta have that 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.280 to keep kirkup. Got to have a pass rush tatam 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:40.000 you gotta have a good a good person in the 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:41.879 middle that can stop to run. I'm gonna go linebacker, 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:45.399 and I'm gonna go Jordan Hicks simply because if you 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.000 look it towards the end of the year, he was 0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.720 the one that was getting subbed out for Brian Asamoa. 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:50.160 Eric. 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:52.920 It was Eric Kendricks and Brian Asamoa the last couple 0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:54.760 of games of the year, like when they had that 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.399 Joker package. If you know if the joker package is. 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.679 Brian Asamoa talked about it in our most recent interview 0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.000 and chopping it up the other week, and what did 0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.320 Jordan Higgs work on this offseason? Like? Is it speed? 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.159 Is it strength? Is it? Like I'm excited to see it? 0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.159 Can't He comes here with a new juice, a new energy. 0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.000 He understands what's on the line. He took a pay 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.159 cut to be with the team again this offseason. So 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.359 what does that look like having the green dot being 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.960 the guy that's gonna call the place for this defense. 0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.040 Like I'm excited. I'm just looking at him now and 0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.280 he has his hat on backwards. He has this new 0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.919 young energy that you can tell is affecting the defense 0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.359 in a positive way, but we don't know. 0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.280 Yeah, he's the old guy in the room now with 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:36.959 a bunch of young guys that are coming up. And 0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.920 we always just kind of looked at Eric Kendricks as 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.199 that leader in that room. And now Jordan Hicks is 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.560 that guy. He's got to be the man in that room. 0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.880 And yeah, there's a lot of young guys and looking 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:49.639 at you know, awesome all and pace and some of 0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.439 these other guys that are going to be trying to 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.880 figure it all out. I just feel like a guy 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:55.880 like Hicks really has to step up here because he's 0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:56.920 the veteran leader in that room. 0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.919 Now, all right, next topic, now that we're talking about players, 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.320 see the guys out here FOREL like everybody's looking at 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.000 walk through, which was the ultimate goal of today to 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:08.320 actually get outside watch walk through. See these guys in 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.320 their mental element instead of their physical element. And the 0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.240 mental aspect is a huge part of the game. So 0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:16.240 when you look at guys that have stood out thus far, 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.400 I know there's as we record this, there's only been 0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.120 one day of padded practice, but Tatum, when you look 0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.320 at some of the guys that have stood out, who 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.000 Who's Who's a player that really comes to mind for me? 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:28.240 It's Lewis Scene Okay. 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:32.879 I just feel like he has a newfound purpose and energy, 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.920 and I know that his season didn't go the way 0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.600 it wanted to last year. And I think that his 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.120 last press conference that he did, I. 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.480 Think yesterday after the first padded practice, just. 0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:48.080 Gave me a little bit more tell into why it's 0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.480 kind of clicking for him. He said, this is very 0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.800 similar to what he's been doing in college. It's under 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.200 that same Patriots umbrella, the Bill Belichick, Nick Saban, Kirby 0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:57.040 Smith styles. 0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.600 He feels like he has a lot. 0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.440 More free eat them, and you know, context clues will 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.280 kind of give it away, like how did how the 0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.480 way that he spoke about this, He just feels like 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:11.160 he's being himself out there. He's aggressive. He literally had 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:12.680 this one play. I still can't get it out of 0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:14.240 my head. I think, like, what are they? It's like 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:15.760 one of those things will keep you up at night. 0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:19.560 He just like like it was like a missile just 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.520 like coming through in front of I think it was 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.239 Jalen Riger and it almost looked like he's supermandove and 0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.480 just like snatched the ball out of the way, and 0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.200 it was just like a really impressive hustle play. 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:30.360 And I think. 0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.840 With this defense in particular and what they're gonna ask 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.040 if these guys, I think he's. 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:37.880 Gonna really shine. 0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.160 And he's just popped off for me, the new attitude, 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.760 the I'm really sick and tired of y'all asking me 0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.080 how my leg is and I'm gonna let you watch 0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.239 me play on the field and then you'll know how 0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.440 my leg is right, So that's kind of I don't know. 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.200 He's been really I've been really impressed with him this camp. 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.840 I've been impressed with seeing Ron Johnson out here, Like 0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.560 this is the most I've seen Ron at this early 0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.280 part of training camp and my four ears being an 0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:05.160 employee here. So Ryan, you've seen almost a handful of practices. Now, 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:07.000 So who are some guys that stand up? Yeah? 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:08.680 You know, like this year was different. 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.120 You know, normally you don't have to come to every 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.040 practice because you know most of the guys. 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.320 And this is a year for me that there's so 0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:16.360 many new faces. 0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.800 But here's a repeat face that I feel like is 0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:20.920 gonna have kind of a breakout year. He's even said 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.520 he wants to be I think the best cam buying them. 0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.120 And the reason I say is about Cam buying them 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.120 is he's being actd to do a lot of stuff. 0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:28.960 I know. One of the. 0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:32.360 Practices he was as a far hash safety. So far 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:34.520 hash means that the ball's on the right hash. He's 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.040 on the left hash safety. Harrison Smith's on the near 0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:41.000 hash as they call it. At the snap he ran 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.280 and became the robber. I guess you want to call it. 0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.760 In the flat Harrison Smith ran back there basically a 0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.440 simple cover three, but to get to it was so spectacular, 0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.240 and he read Kirk Cousin's eyes and so instead of 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.680 just going right to the flat, he ran to where 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.600 the ball was going. He almost picked it off, he 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.880 knocked it out the air. But when you see him 0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:01.760 move at that speed, I can tell he's not thinking anymore. 0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.960 I can tell he's playing with instinct. Even watching walk through, 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.880 just watching the numerous places he's lined up over the 0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.880 last seven plays shows that he's one of the guys. 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.400 And this is the thing I always remember about Ed 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.560 Reid and Will Demps when we played for the Ravens. 0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:20.440 Ed Reid as a young guy, Brian Billick and Rex 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.480 Ryan trusted every to say, look, we're gonna give you 0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.880 a lot of different looks. I remember Troy pop Molo 0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:26.520 was similar, We're gonna give you a lot of different looks. 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.880 That needs a lot of different stuff. Harrison Smith has 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.200 to be like Hawkeye from Avengers. You got to sip 0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.280 in that nest in the back with the bow and arrow, 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.440 and you're just taking taking shots when you need to. 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.280 Cam bying them has to be able to move within 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.520 this defense and be very smart because if he's telling 0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.600 him line up and cover four, but you're gonna show 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.160 a cover two, he's got to understand how to get 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:49.480 that look. And now cam buying him as a cornerback 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.400 from college knowing he can cover in space. 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.240 I really think he stood out like I like the 0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:54.000 way he plays. 0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.320 I like the speed in which he's playing, which shows 0:31:56.320 --> 0:32:01.000 that he's understanding understanding Brian Floyd's defense. Because Kirk Cousins 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:02.960 and Justin Jeffson both said this, I heard him both 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.560 their pressers. What's been different, Well, we don't have to 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.960 learn a new offense. Well, I think cam bying them 0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.160 is learning a new defense. But you don't feel that 0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.040 pressure from them. They're like, look, we're learning a new defense, 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.000 but we're happy to learn this one because the one 0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.360 last year wasn't great for us as a team because 0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.360 it didn't fit what we do well. And now I 0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.600 feel like Brian Flores is literally taking each player, watching 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.480 what they do well, say here's the defense I'm going 0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.560 to put together. And I think that's why you know, 0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:28.320 cam buying them so far to me has been he's 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:29.760 been running and flying around the field. 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:31.480 That's great, you know for me. 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.840 I also it's a guy who literally and figuratively has 0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:37.840 been standing out walking out here as a guy in 0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.680 Josh Oliver. He's a guy for me that I'm really 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.600 curious to see because We've had a lot of talk 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.520 this offseason since the signing. People are like, he doesn't 0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.560 have a ton of stats, you know last year, only 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:51.160 had what fourteen receptions last season, But the idea with him, 0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:52.680 they were saying, you know, he's one of the best 0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:57.800 past pass pro and even running tight ends in the league. 0:32:58.120 --> 0:32:59.720 And so with that being the case, you know you've 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.360 already he started to see some people commenting on some 0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.080 of the run plays and seeing him stand some of 0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:08.880 those defensive ends and linebackers up on those practice plays, 0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.160 and so a guy like Josh Oliver, I really want 0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:12.960 to see what he's gonna do for this offense and 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.280 if it just makes this offense even more versatile given 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.000 what happened last season. So for me, it's Josh Oliver 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:19.960 oh Man, that. 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.840 Would be so so beneficial to this team. If Josh 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:27.120 Oliver has a great year, I'm gonna go with Jowan Williams, 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:32.400 just not really understanding his story until about two weeks ago. 0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.840 I believe he's prime for another, well not even for another, 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.200 but before a big year. He's been injury prone the 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.680 past couple of years. Finally got his first start in 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.040 the NFL last year in year three with the New 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.280 England Patriots, and then made the most of it, got injured, 0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:52.080 got injured, reserve and it never you know, essentially worked 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.920 out for him. But there's like a new, new, redefined 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:58.640 purpose in his I guess the way he approaches the game. 0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.520 I mean, we already know he's he has the physical abilities. 0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:04.640 He's sixty two sixty three, looks like a linebacker out there. 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:08.200 He's like Harrison Smith's size basically playing cornerback. So I'm 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.719 excited to see what he can do. Uh, not really 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:12.400 knowing too much about him. I think a lot of 0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.879 defenses or offenses, excuse me, offenses are going to take 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.000 him for granted because it's just like, oh, this is 0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.520 a former second rounder who's been hurt, never really got 0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.640 the opportunity, and let's check fade to his side. So 0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:27.040 I think he's going to play with a chip on 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:28.920 his shoulder, and I think that's going to make this defense, 0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.480 not only this defense, but this entire team a lot 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:35.520 better as we close, as we close out training camp, 0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.960 is is there anything else you guys want to see? 0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.040 As pads continued to come on, we started to get 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.800 into preseason games and we probably won't see the starters 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.160 until week one at Homing it's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah. 0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.480 For me, I want to see Jordan Adison impress, like 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:49.880 I want to see one on ones. I want to 0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.120 see him in press because everybody keep talking about this 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:53.960 weight you one hundred and seventy pounds, hundred and seventy 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:57.359 five pounds, forgetting that DeVonta Adams was won sixty six 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.600 and I got a chance to you know, neck with 0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:04.160 you know, Keenan McCardell and just listening to how he 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.799 talks about Jordan Addison's size, and I think that's the key, 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.799 is like Jordan Adisen's size is not a problem. Why 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.279 because he's been that size his whole life. You know, 0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.640 if it's one thing, if he was like two hundred 0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:16.640 pounds all of a sudden lost weight or something, or 0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.960 he was one seventy eight, he gain thirty pounds, or 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.400 how do you play. He's been this skinny, long fast 0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.000 kid his whole life, so he knows how to take hits, 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.160 he knows how to absorb blows, he knows how to 0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:29.520 get skinny if he's you know, dealing with the double 0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.319 team and all this kind of stuff. So I want 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.840 to see him impress and not so much against his 0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:37.399 own teammates because we know they're gonna compete, but they're 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.080 not gonna give you like I hate you slapping the face, 0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.279 punch to the chest. I want to see him with 0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:46.360 these joint practices, like Jordan Assen in pads, joint practice 0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.239 one on one. I'm all eyes, like I'm sitting right 0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.160 next to wherever the one on ones are, and I 0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.279 want to see how jordanasen because if you notice, you 0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.120 have to figure out who goes in the slot. If 0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:58.480 I'm a coach, I'm putting kJ Osborn or Justin Jefferson 0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.600 because I know they've been there before and I know 0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.240 I can dictate coverage by putting Jefferson in a slot. 0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.600 You can't double a slot guy like you can double 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.000 an outside guy. So I want to see what Jordanas 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:09.319 is going to do because I feel like if you 0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.319 put kJ Osbourne and just Jefferson on the left, jordan 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.960 As on the right, he's manned up. And if I'm 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.360 manning up a guy with that speed, I probably want to. 0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.279 I don't want to give him too much space. I 0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.160 want to get in this. I want to make him uncomfortable. 0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.040 So it's going to be that, like can he deal 0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:25.319 with a guy like Jalen Ramsey, You know, a guy 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.920 with physical presence that's going to hit you in the chest, 0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.959 like I mean, Xavier Rose is old. But you're gonna 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.160 deal with the Buccaneers defensive backfield. They are scary, they 0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.799 are nasty, and they will hit you. And so that's 0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:39.040 what I want to see in this joint practices. How 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.680 does he handle bigger, stronger cornerbacks than want to jam 0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:42.040 him up? 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.879 For me, it is the backup quarterback situation. I want 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.879 to see Jaron Hall and Nick Mullins because a lot 0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.200 of people have been speculating saying that we're only going 0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.160 to keep two quarterbacks on this roster initially. But if 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:58.279 Jaron Hall does enough, especially in preseason, to warrant him 0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.280 not being able to pass through on waivers or something 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.239 like that, like he's got to make the decision very 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.240 difficult for the quarterback coaches and the head coach himself. 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.200 So I'm going to be very curious to see just 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.600 how both those guys produced here in the preseason. 0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:12.120 Well and don't you think that? 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:14.960 And I was talking after I was talking about this 0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:19.520 with the other day, it's if you're serious about the 0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:23.120 quarterback position, like the future of the quarterback position, Like 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.239 you need to make the decision of Charon Hall's your 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.080 guy and how much you want to invest in this? 0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:27.920 Yeah, you know. 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.359 I mean if you if you believe you are a 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.360 team that can win the division again, you're not going 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:34.800 to have a super low draft pick or a super high. 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:35.680 Draft pick next season. 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.239 Do you have enough draft capital to move up if 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.840 that's where you're going next? If Kirk's not gonna be 0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:44.319 your guy, the next year, and if Nick Mullens isn't 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.200 the future, Yeah, the decision. 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.040 There is really tough if you only plan on keeping too. 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.239 So that's why they get paid the big bucks to 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.200 make those kinds of decisions, and we don't have. 0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:53.680 To we don't have to do that. But I think 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.440 it's a really interesting situation. 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.920 And the thing is Kirk's been super durable, so you 0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.279 really haven't had to worry too much about the idea of, 0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:02.960 you know, who's coming in behind him in case he 0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.280 gets hurt. But you know, you still have the future 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.000 playing for that kind of stuff too, And it's like 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.920 which guy gives you the best option during the season 0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.080 if something like that were to happen, So they still 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.320 got to try to figure out, you know, what strategy 0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.200 they want to run with. But for me, that's why 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.960 it's such a crucial battle here and training camp and 0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:22.240 and basically preseason with everything. 0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.520 So those are my guys, I'd say for Jaron Hall, 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:26.760 I like that point too. I think for Nick Mullins 0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.160 and Jaron Hall, it's going to be actual games. Nick 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.759 Mullins is going to be a pocket passer. Jaron Hall 0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:33.120 is going to be a guy that can scramble a 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.719 little bit, and I think he will be able to 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.359 open some eyes like on that because Kevin O'Connell talks 0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.040 about this the off schedule. Patrick Mahomes talks about that 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:43.160 the off schedule, Like we heard that all through Netflix, 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.719 the off schedule. Kirk Cousin said, I know I'm not 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:48.200 a great off schedule guy. Well, if Jaron Hall comes 0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:49.799 in all of a sudden and he's like hitting the 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.520 third progression read because he was able to make a 0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.080 guy miss and he's scrambling, and all of a sudden 0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.080 he makes a dot throw and then he comes back 0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.040 the next time, maybe runs for ten yards, gets back 0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:00.760 in the huddle, some type. 0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.440 Of power where he's the actual runner. 0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.120 People are gonna be like, oh, okay, this is something 0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:08.880 different that the Vikings have not had. And it's not 0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:10.640 to say he can't become that guy, because we know, 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.120 like Russell Wilson was drafting the third round, you know, 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.080 there's been some Dak Prescott was in the forefront. There's 0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.919 been some late round guys that have actually gotten into 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.960 games and then open up a ton of eyes, So like, oh, 0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.000 this guy could be our future. And so I think 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.040 for Jaron Hall, it's gonna be games in practice. He 0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.680 hasn't had some great practices. But again, as a QB 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.440 in this league, at this level, your head is swimming, 0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:34.759 you know, Anthony Richardson, Bryce Young, those guys are getting 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:37.279 c J strout, They're getting the playbook fed to them, 0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.719 spoon fed. Hey, you need to know this. Jaron Hall 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.759 is being thrown to the wolves. Yeah, get out there, 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:43.719 here you go. I don't have a ton of time 0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:45.239 to spend. You got to pick up what I'm telling 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:47.759 Kirk Cousins. So it's a big difference when you're number 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.360 one drafted and when you're drafted as a potential backup 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:51.040 third quarterback. 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.040 Yeah, when you're the number one, they're kind of catering 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:54.840 the playbook to what you can do well, and a 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:56.960 guy like him, it's you know, get in here because 0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:58.759 we're feeding Kirk at this point, so you better get 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:00.600 on the page what we want. The one thing I 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.960 remember watching a couple BYU games with jarn Hall when 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.440 it would get to those situations where he'd be scrambling, 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.399 he'd be looking downfield, but you could kind of tell 0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.439 like he just prefers to tuck the rock and run. 0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:14.560 So you know, Now I was really curious, Like I've 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.920 been talking for the last how many years saying, if 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:18.359 you look at some of the guys that have been 0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:22.239 coming out with your Russell Wilson's and Kyler Murray and 0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:24.440 some of those guys that were more baseball oriented, and 0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.080 they have that kind of Patrick Mahomes arm to him 0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.160 kind of a thing, like all of those guys have 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:32.400 the ability to on the on the run make just 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.480 unorthodox throws. And so when Jaren Hall had the baseball background, 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:38.000 he likes to run that kind of stuff, And like, 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:39.560 how's that going to translate when he gets to the 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:42.600 pros Because if he's stuttering at all when he's trying 0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:44.440 to make his progressions, he's going to miss his windows 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.960 to throw. But if he's somebody that can actually put 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.239 it together all across the board that way and make 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.200 those split decisions, and he's got the athleticism on his 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.360 feet and he's got the ability to throw the ball accurately, 0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.400 Like that's a potential diamond in the rough that you 0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.719 took in the later chunk of the draft. So he's 0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.120 been one of my guys from the beginning when we 0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.600 draft him, Like, if this guy pans out. This is 0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.160 a huge, huge get for this offense, especially in a 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.839 position that we've been looking for, you know, future proof 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:11.040 guys for a very long time. 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:12.120 Man, that would be great. 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:13.719 Yeah, it's the whole. 0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:17.120 I mean, that's why you draft later quarterbacks just in 0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.960 case they're that the one guy that did. 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.759 The Tom Brady yes, and I mean Cracy, that's what 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.240 he's known for. I mean, he's been in organizations where 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.920 in San Francisco where you never draft a quarterback in 0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.360 the first round. You pretty much build a system around 0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.640 him and let the quarterback just be that final piece 0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:34.319 of the puzzle and just make sure he doesn't make 0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.520 any mistakes. So we know Kirk can do a little 0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.080 bit more than that. That's why a lot of teams 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:39.799 won them. And I'm glad that he's in purple. But 0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.120 still to have a guy in Jaron Hall and Nick 0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:45.279 Mullins behind you're starting quarterback and Kirk Cousins, I believe 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.040 this offense will still be very, very good in twenty 0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:51.759 twenty three. Well, guys, appreciate you. Today was a lot 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.200 of fun. Vikings fans. 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