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Speaker 3: I mean there's players that do it with their mouth,

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Speaker 3: they talk a lot, but then there's guys that do

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Speaker 3: it on the field, and I think the nails that

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Speaker 3: do it on the field. Guy like, they're going to

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Speaker 3: see his work ethic, They're going to see all the

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Speaker 3: things he.

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Speaker 4: Does pre practice, pre warm up. You know, he's big

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Speaker 4: into the body like he has a body guy.

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Speaker 2: If you want to call him there he hit a

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Speaker 2: nail on the head, Thul.

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Speaker 1: I mean Brian and Neils always said, you know, going

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Speaker 1: against Neil Hunter has made me a better professional.

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Speaker 5: All right, Welcome to the Minnesota Vikings Podcast Training Competition.

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Speaker 5: My name is Gabe Henderson. We are outside the Twin

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Speaker 5: Cities Orthopedics Performance Center recording this podcast and I'm alongside

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Speaker 5: Tatum Everett, Jay Notson, and our friend Ron Johnson. Eric Davidson,

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Speaker 5: who I guess is going by DJE, is the producer.

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Speaker 5: Tatum said he looks like a DJ with this setup today,

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Speaker 5: which is different from our normal setup inside the TCO

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Speaker 5: Radio studio, but so excited to watch walkthroughs right now.

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Speaker 5: The offensive linemen are coming out, the kickers and punters

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Speaker 5: are out here, and it has been a very very

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Speaker 5: interesting week so far. As we record this on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 5: Monday was the first day of paddick practice, and right

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Speaker 5: before practice started, the Vikings officially reached a one year

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Speaker 5: deal with the Neil Hunter for seventeen million, which can

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Speaker 5: be up to twenty million with incentives. And yesterday at practice,

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Speaker 5: you felt Danil's just presence. He didn't practice at all

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Speaker 5: in team drills, but just his presence alone, his physical stature.

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Speaker 5: I know. Caraacy Tatum talked to Quaycy and he said,

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Speaker 5: and Caracy basically said, Danil got bigger this offseason because

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Speaker 5: he wasn't training or rehabbing an injury. So Ron just

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Speaker 5: looking at Danil's presence having him back this year, what

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Speaker 3: I mean, have you ever watched the Avengers would Outthoor

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Speaker 3: Danail Hunter like Thor was on yesterday, and uh, you

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Speaker 3: know they're for those who have seen the first one

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Speaker 3: of the first Avengers Thor movies. He gets the hammer

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Speaker 3: taken away from him, and then he has to earn

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Speaker 3: it back. You know, he feels like he's not Thor,

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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, lightning strikes. He looks

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Speaker 3: super cut up and it's just Thor. And that's what

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Speaker 3: daneil Hunter reminds me of. Like daneil Hunter without the money,

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Speaker 3: without the uniform, not being around here is kind of

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Speaker 3: like Thor without the hammer.

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Speaker 4: They give him that.

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Speaker 3: Twenty million dollars. Like you see, I mean, he posted

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Speaker 3: the picture of himself. I feel like the NFL is

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Speaker 3: gonna drug test them, Like I don't saw that picture.

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Speaker 3: It looked like he had just got done. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: looks like he just got done lifting weights, like you know,

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Speaker 3: he had to looks like I mean, I remember, I'm

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Speaker 3: wear those armbands to make.

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Speaker 3: Daniel does that without armbands and so yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: when you see a guy that size, if you're a

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Speaker 3: dad used to say, this, Let's send the biggest guy

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Speaker 3: off the bus first to intimidate the other team. Sure,

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Speaker 3: Daniel Hunter's that guy, like I would send him and

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Speaker 3: Christian saw off the bus first because those are two big,

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Speaker 3: I feel like Daneil Hunter, Marcus Davenport are gonna make

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Speaker 3: and then they're gonna make Christian dare So I'm Brian

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Speaker 3: O'Neil better because they're gonna go against him every day,

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Speaker 3: and so I think it's all encompassing of a team

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Speaker 5: Yeah, while Brian O'Neill did not practice, it's not practicing

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Speaker 2: I mean, you hit it right on the nail on

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Speaker 1: I mean Brian O'Neil's always said, you know, going against

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Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter has made me a better professional.

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Speaker 2: So he just adds he elevates it. It's a young defense.

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Speaker 1: They got very very young after this free agency period,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Hunters on their team this time around. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Danil and Marcus Davenport, because they're both very soft spoken,

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Speaker 6: There you go, yeah, yeah, I mean Zadarius and Daniel

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Speaker 6: a guy like Daniel Hunter is somebody that you can

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Speaker 6: definitely form that cornerstone from given his track given his

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the track record speaks for itself. Over seventy sacks,

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Speaker 5: what he does when he's off the field, But ron

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Speaker 5: for this locker room that has so many young guys,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's.

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Speaker 3: Players that do it with their mouth, they talk a lot,

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Speaker 4: Pre practice, pre warm up.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's big into the body, like he has

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Speaker 3: that he does all these weird like karate type workouts

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Speaker 3: then think about Patrick Mahomes, Like we got to see

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Speaker 3: you put your body in weird positions and say, now

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Speaker 3: the passers. Now try to swim me. Because what happens

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Speaker 4: He's able to do it.

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Speaker 3: But then you'll see him warming up with the coaches

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Speaker 3: The younger a team, the more they end up in

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Speaker 3: And I think that's where that comes into this play

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Speaker 3: of like having veteran guys that you don't ever see,

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Speaker 4: This is how you get it.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's huge for a group of young

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Speaker 3: And so I think that's the thing is having those

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: The thing with Hunter two is he just turns twenty

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Speaker 6: So it just feels like with Hunter, he's going to

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Speaker 6: I think for a guy like Jim, you're talking the

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Speaker 4: He deserves to be up.

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Speaker 3: There because if you put Kirk Cousins in the nineties

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Speaker 2: No doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: You know, all Not all publicity is good publicity, but

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Speaker 5: I agree with you. Their media Jay made a good

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Speaker 5: point early and I won't take it away from it.

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Speaker 6: It's Okay, Now, my gut reaction is you want the

440
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Speaker 6: respect of the locker rooms so that it's your peers

441
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Speaker 6: and everything. At the same point, you also want the

442
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Speaker 6: respect of the front office because that's going to get

443
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Speaker 6: you paid paid exactly right. But but for me, it

444
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Speaker 6: would definitely I think in the end, you know, if

445
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Speaker 6: you're somebody that's established and you're you're trying to be

446
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Speaker 6: a top ten quarterback, you're probably getting top ten quarterback money.

447
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Speaker 6: So for you, it's it's definitely going to turn into

448
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Speaker 6: the uh the kind of the accolades of your peers.

449
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Speaker 1: Conversely, would you say that if you have the respect

450
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Speaker 1: of your of the locker room, it could get you

451
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Speaker 1: further along with an EZECH or GM maybe who's on

452
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Speaker 1: the fence with you.

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Speaker 6: Potentially just depends on your leadership.

454
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Speaker 1: But if the front office does it likes you and

455
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Speaker 1: you're putting your teammates, don't that seems like a worse situation.

456
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

457
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Speaker 3: I think from our front office standpoint too, they're always

458
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Speaker 3: going to go to the captains or other leaders on

459
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Speaker 3: the team too. So I think it's it is you

460
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Speaker 3: do want your locker room to love you and like you,

461
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Speaker 3: and I think GM's also listen to the noise, because

462
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they hear these players too. So when

463
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Speaker 3: you can start to like earn the respect of all

464
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Speaker 3: these players and all these other guys and all these

465
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Speaker 3: teams around the league, I think you're starting to change

466
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Speaker 3: the narrative of who you can be. And I think

467
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Speaker 3: that's what Kirk Cousin's doing now. He's changing that narrative.

468
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Speaker 3: And now again also it comes down now as wins.

469
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Speaker 3: You can change every narrative, you can do everything you want,

470
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Speaker 3: but you gotta win. And I think that's the key

471
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Speaker 3: for this team. Thirteen and four is going to be

472
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Speaker 3: tough to repeat. But then what does it look like

473
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Speaker 3: If they're eleven and six is a competitive If they're

474
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Speaker 3: twelve and five is a competitive they're ten and seven

475
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Speaker 3: and they win the North?

476
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Speaker 4: Is it competitive?

477
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Speaker 5: You know?

478
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Speaker 4: Like you don't want to get.

479
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Speaker 3: Blown out every loss and then win every like last year,

480
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Speaker 3: you know, And that's what you can't have blowout losses

481
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Speaker 3: and then ridiculous wins. You got to be consistent where

482
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Speaker 3: it's like, man, we're winning by two touchdowns or we're

483
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Speaker 3: writing these games, but we're not having to come down

484
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Speaker 3: to the last kick. Or the last player JJ on

485
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Speaker 3: fourth down against the Bills, Like, you can't live like that.

486
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Speaker 3: You're gonna eventually, Like people say, it's like a three pointer.

487
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Speaker 3: You live by the three, you die by the three.

488
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Speaker 3: The Warriors lived by it for years and then Lebron

489
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Speaker 3: three won.

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Speaker 4: Them and they died by it.

491
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Speaker 5: So it just they won two cents though they did.

492
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Speaker 5: They did.

493
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Speaker 3: But but yeah, no, I think I think winning like

494
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Speaker 3: that is like the three point in the NBA. It's

495
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Speaker 3: not sustainable long term. You have to find ways to

496
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Speaker 3: put your foot on the other team's throat. And I

497
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Speaker 3: think that's where and we'll talk about these guys later,

498
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Speaker 3: but I think that's where some of these defensive guys

499
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Speaker 3: can help with that.

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Speaker 6: It's a success oriented business. And you start not only

501
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Speaker 6: winning in the regular season and everyone goes a, but

502
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Speaker 6: you lost in the playoffs. Now it's the next thing

503
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Speaker 6: is going to be. You got to have success in

504
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Speaker 6: the playoffs in order for people to get to that

505
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Speaker 6: next respect level for him and to be able to

506
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Speaker 6: the guy that's gonna put up those numbers. Think about

507
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Speaker 6: guy like Matt Stafford. Everyone always looked at him, said, well,

508
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Speaker 6: he's playing for the Lions. He doesn't have the support

509
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Speaker 6: and stuff like that. But then he goes to a

510
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Speaker 6: Super Bowl winning team that's just absolutely loaded, and everyone's

511
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Speaker 6: like stick him, you know, they suck him at twenty

512
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Speaker 6: eighth on the list last year and now last year

513
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Speaker 6: they just got absolutely decimated because a ton of their

514
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Speaker 6: veterans and everybody left the team. And now everyone's kind

515
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Speaker 6: of like, well, it's Matt Staff for the guy really

516
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Speaker 6: with the rams, Like, yeah, he won a ring, but

517
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Speaker 6: it's what have you done for me lately? So for me,

518
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Speaker 6: it just turns into, you know, for Kirk, he's gonna

519
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Speaker 6: have to not only have a successful season, but then

520
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Speaker 6: get a you know run in the playoffs in order

521
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Speaker 6: for people to really feel like he's turned that corner

522
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Speaker 6: in order to be the veteran that people respect.

523
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Speaker 5: Yeah, as we look at Kirk Cousins on the field

524
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Speaker 5: right now, he is talking to Garrett Bradbury and they're

525
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Speaker 5: doing walkthroughs right now. Defenses on the far field, offenses

526
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Speaker 5: on the field closest to us, and you just look

527
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Speaker 5: at some of these offensive linemen and defensive lineman, just

528
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Speaker 5: the non skill guys. Ron will you when you look

529
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Speaker 5: at will you understand now that pads are on all

530
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Speaker 5: those conversations of the dB basically saying, you know, lockdown

531
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Speaker 5: it lockdown, or you know, I put the handcuffs on them.

532
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Speaker 5: It doesn't really mean anything because there's an actual pass rush.

533
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Speaker 5: So when you look at some of these intermediate positions,

534
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Speaker 5: offensive line, defensive line, linebackers, tight ends, who are some

535
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Speaker 5: guys that need to make that next step?

536
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Speaker 4: Well easier for me was gonna be TJ.

537
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Speaker 3: Howkinson, But I think everybody knows he's a star. I

538
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Speaker 3: think Marcus Davenport has to make a leap. He has

539
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Speaker 3: to be impactful.

540
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Speaker 5: One.

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Speaker 3: When you pick the number zero, you're all the eyes

542
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Speaker 3: are on you. Now you're agent zero. You're zero dark

543
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Speaker 3: ninety nine, like your zero whatever you want to call

544
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Speaker 3: your ground zero like you have to be able to

545
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Speaker 3: be And I loved watching some of the intricacies. I'm

546
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Speaker 3: not gonna say some of the stuff I've seen because

547
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Speaker 3: fans in the world.

548
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Speaker 4: Doesn't need to see it.

549
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Speaker 3: But there's gonna be some cool things that Brian Flores

550
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Speaker 3: is gonna do with Agent zero that I feel like

551
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Speaker 3: if it works. And there's the thing about the coach,

552
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Speaker 3: It's like spaghetti. You throw it against the refrigerators, even sticks.

553
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Speaker 3: If it sticks, it's ready to go. If it falls

554
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Speaker 3: to the ground, put that thing back in the water.

555
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Speaker 3: Let's try something else. So when you think about Marcus Davenport,

556
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Speaker 3: how they can use him moving around within this defense,

557
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Speaker 3: being on the same side as Daniel Hunter, because Danil

558
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Speaker 3: Hunter hasn't been here, so they haven't even been able

559
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Speaker 3: to do that stuff yet. I think it's gonna be

560
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Speaker 3: cool to see where he goes because he's a guy

561
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Speaker 3: that's been hurt.

562
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Speaker 4: He's a guy that got drafted with.

563
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Speaker 3: High expectations and then injuries kind of set them back.

564
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Speaker 3: It only takes one or two good years of health

565
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Speaker 3: and being healthy like Zadarius, where you can actually show

566
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Speaker 3: the world like I still got it. And I think

567
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Speaker 3: Marcus Davenport one will benefit from Daniel Hunter because all

568
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Speaker 3: eyes are going to be on him, speaking of Tupac

569
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Speaker 3: and Cooper Cup, all eyes are gonna be on Daniel Hunter.

570
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Speaker 4: But when you look at.

571
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Speaker 3: Where Marcus Davenport fits, he's a guy where a lot

572
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Speaker 3: of teams aren't scared of him, so he can early

573
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Speaker 3: come in and get one on one. He can get

574
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Speaker 3: some matchups versus fullbacks and tight ends where you have to.

575
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Speaker 3: If you can't beat the tight end as an outside

576
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Speaker 3: linebacker rush linebacker, you're not gonna last in this league

577
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Speaker 3: long tackles Monoy Mono.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, tag in.

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Speaker 3: Tight ends aren't typically guys that are great in past rush.

580
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Speaker 3: And I think Mark his dad board is going to

581
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Speaker 3: benefit from the fact that Daniel Hunter is going to

582
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Speaker 3: have a lot of protection go his way.

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Speaker 2: No, I like that a lot.

584
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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of these non skill guys

585
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Speaker 1: that we may talk about right now are trying to

586
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Speaker 1: They're in their second contract, so they're trying to earn

587
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Speaker 1: their potential back like they had a lot of promise

588
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Speaker 1: and now they're really just trying to elongate their career

589
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Speaker 1: to make it go a bit further.

590
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Speaker 2: And I think that with Dalvin Tomlinson leaving.

591
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Speaker 1: It's literally and figuratively a large hole there in the

592
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Speaker 1: line that is left open. And for me, it's Dean

593
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Speaker 1: Lowry that I'm still trying to allow the pads aren

594
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Speaker 1: I really want to see his physicality and and his

595
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Speaker 1: versatility out there. It's someone that you know, I think

596
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Speaker 1: we brought on pretty early in the free agency process

597
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Speaker 1: as a to literally plug the hole there, because I

598
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Speaker 1: don't think that you know, he's not going to be like,

599
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Speaker 1: you can't replace someone like Dalvin Tomlinson because he's just

600
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Speaker 1: so gifted at his position and get some nice stalwart

601
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Speaker 1: play right there.

602
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Speaker 2: I think Tomlinson left the team with like eighteen the

603
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Speaker 2: team with eighteen last year.

604
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Speaker 1: So if you can get a little bit that production

605
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Speaker 1: out of Lowry, I think that could be my guide

606
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Speaker 1: to watch up there in the front.

607
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Speaker 2: Where As Harrison.

608
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Speaker 1: Phillips likes to call it where the doggy hydrant is

609
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Speaker 1: that they just get peed on the whole time.

610
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Speaker 6: Yeah, for me, it's it's basically the guy's completely opposite

611
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Speaker 6: across from a Lowry on that one I one thing

612
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 6: that's been bugging me all year, and it was something

613
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Speaker 6: that even last year was a storyline at the end

614
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 6: of the year, was that interior offensive line play. But

615
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 6: you know, between Bradbury, Cleveland and Ingram and so you know,

616
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Speaker 6: there's rumor swirling about possible people coming in to visit,

617
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 6: et cetera, et cetera. But once you get pads on,

618
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Speaker 6: that's where you're gonna find out, you know, what's really

619
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Speaker 6: going to happen. Because Darisaw we all feel like we

620
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Speaker 6: know what he is at this point, O'Neill's coming off

621
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Speaker 6: an injury and you assume that he's going to get

622
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Speaker 6: back to his his.

623
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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl form.

624
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Speaker 6: But those three guys in the middle, there's been a

625
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 6: lot of question marks just in general on you know,

626
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Speaker 6: are these the guys that we need in order to

627
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Speaker 6: be able to make sure there's not that that rush

628
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Speaker 6: right up the middle, because that's an absolute killer for

629
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Speaker 6: a quarterback trying to be able to sit in a

630
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 6: comfortable pocket. Kirk had to do a lot of moving

631
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Speaker 6: last year, and I'm hoping that whatever's happening there within

632
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 6: the interior offensive line, they can show that up to

633
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 6: give him more time, because we've all seen it.

634
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Speaker 5: You give him time and he's going to be deadly.

635
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Speaker 6: So I just want to see what's gonna happen between

636
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 6: those three guys, and if those guys get a lot

637
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 6: more stout this year, I think not only in pass pro,

638
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 6: but even on the running game, Madison's gonna need, you know,

639
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 6: some lanes to run through. So for those three guys,

640
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 6: it's just super keen for me to see what they

641
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Speaker 6: do this year.

642
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 5: All three good points offensive line. You gotta have that

643
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 5: to keep kirkup. Got to have a pass rush tatam

644
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Speaker 5: you gotta have a good a good person in the

645
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Speaker 5: middle that can stop to run. I'm gonna go linebacker,

646
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna go Jordan Hicks simply because if you

647
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Speaker 5: look it towards the end of the year, he was

648
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Speaker 5: the one that was getting subbed out for Brian Asamoa.

649
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 4: Eric.

650
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 5: It was Eric Kendricks and Brian Asamoa the last couple

651
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 5: of games of the year, like when they had that

652
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 5: Joker package. If you know if the joker package is.

653
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Speaker 5: Brian Asamoa talked about it in our most recent interview

654
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 5: and chopping it up the other week, and what did

655
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 5: Jordan Higgs work on this offseason? Like? Is it speed?

656
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 5: Is it strength? Is it? Like I'm excited to see it?

657
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 5: Can't He comes here with a new juice, a new energy.

658
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 5: He understands what's on the line. He took a pay

659
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 5: cut to be with the team again this offseason. So

660
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 5: what does that look like having the green dot being

661
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 5: the guy that's gonna call the place for this defense.

662
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 5: Like I'm excited. I'm just looking at him now and

663
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 5: he has his hat on backwards. He has this new

664
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 5: young energy that you can tell is affecting the defense

665
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 5: in a positive way, but we don't know.

666
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's the old guy in the room now with

667
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 6: a bunch of young guys that are coming up. And

668
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 6: we always just kind of looked at Eric Kendricks as

669
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 6: that leader in that room. And now Jordan Hicks is

670
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 6: that guy. He's got to be the man in that room.

671
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 6: And yeah, there's a lot of young guys and looking

672
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 6: at you know, awesome all and pace and some of

673
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 6: these other guys that are going to be trying to

674
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 6: figure it all out. I just feel like a guy

675
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 6: like Hicks really has to step up here because he's

676
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 6: the veteran leader in that room.

677
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 5: Now, all right, next topic, now that we're talking about players,

678
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 5: see the guys out here FOREL like everybody's looking at

679
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 5: walk through, which was the ultimate goal of today to

680
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 5: actually get outside watch walk through. See these guys in

681
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 5: their mental element instead of their physical element. And the

682
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 5: mental aspect is a huge part of the game. So

683
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 5: when you look at guys that have stood out thus far,

684
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 5: I know there's as we record this, there's only been

685
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 5: one day of padded practice, but Tatum, when you look

686
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 5: at some of the guys that have stood out, who

687
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 5: Who's Who's a player that really comes to mind for me?

688
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: It's Lewis Scene Okay.

689
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: I just feel like he has a newfound purpose and energy,

690
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: and I know that his season didn't go the way

691
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: it wanted to last year. And I think that his

692
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: last press conference that he did, I.

693
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: Think yesterday after the first padded practice, just.

694
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: Gave me a little bit more tell into why it's

695
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: kind of clicking for him. He said, this is very

696
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: similar to what he's been doing in college. It's under

697
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: that same Patriots umbrella, the Bill Belichick, Nick Saban, Kirby

698
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Smith styles.

699
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: He feels like he has a lot.

700
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: More free eat them, and you know, context clues will

701
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: kind of give it away, like how did how the

702
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: way that he spoke about this, He just feels like

703
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: he's being himself out there. He's aggressive. He literally had

704
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: this one play. I still can't get it out of

705
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: my head. I think, like, what are they? It's like

706
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: one of those things will keep you up at night.

707
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: He just like like it was like a missile just

708
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: like coming through in front of I think it was

709
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,239
Speaker 1: Jalen Riger and it almost looked like he's supermandove and

710
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: just like snatched the ball out of the way, and

711
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: it was just like a really impressive hustle play.

712
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: And I think.

713
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: With this defense in particular and what they're gonna ask

714
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: if these guys, I think he's.

715
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: Gonna really shine.

716
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: And he's just popped off for me, the new attitude,

717
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: the I'm really sick and tired of y'all asking me

718
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: how my leg is and I'm gonna let you watch

719
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 1: me play on the field and then you'll know how

720
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: my leg is right, So that's kind of I don't know.

721
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: He's been really I've been really impressed with him this camp.

722
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 5: I've been impressed with seeing Ron Johnson out here, Like

723
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 5: this is the most I've seen Ron at this early

724
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 5: part of training camp and my four ears being an

725
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 5: employee here. So Ryan, you've seen almost a handful of practices. Now,

726
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 5: So who are some guys that stand up? Yeah?

727
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 4: You know, like this year was different.

728
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: You know, normally you don't have to come to every

729
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: practice because you know most of the guys.

730
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: And this is a year for me that there's so

731
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 4: many new faces.

732
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: But here's a repeat face that I feel like is

733
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: gonna have kind of a breakout year. He's even said

734
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: he wants to be I think the best cam buying them.

735
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: And the reason I say is about Cam buying them

736
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: is he's being actd to do a lot of stuff.

737
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 4: I know. One of the.

738
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: Practices he was as a far hash safety. So far

739
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: hash means that the ball's on the right hash. He's

740
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: on the left hash safety. Harrison Smith's on the near

741
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: hash as they call it. At the snap he ran

742
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: and became the robber. I guess you want to call it.

743
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: In the flat Harrison Smith ran back there basically a

744
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: simple cover three, but to get to it was so spectacular,

745
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: and he read Kirk Cousin's eyes and so instead of

746
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: just going right to the flat, he ran to where

747
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: the ball was going. He almost picked it off, he

748
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: knocked it out the air. But when you see him

749
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: move at that speed, I can tell he's not thinking anymore.

750
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: I can tell he's playing with instinct. Even watching walk through,

751
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: just watching the numerous places he's lined up over the

752
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: last seven plays shows that he's one of the guys.

753
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: And this is the thing I always remember about Ed

754
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 4: Reid and Will Demps when we played for the Ravens.

755
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: Ed Reid as a young guy, Brian Billick and Rex

756
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 3: Ryan trusted every to say, look, we're gonna give you

757
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: a lot of different looks. I remember Troy pop Molo

758
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: was similar, We're gonna give you a lot of different looks.

759
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: That needs a lot of different stuff. Harrison Smith has

760
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: to be like Hawkeye from Avengers. You got to sip

761
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: in that nest in the back with the bow and arrow,

762
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: and you're just taking taking shots when you need to.

763
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: Cam bying them has to be able to move within

764
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: this defense and be very smart because if he's telling

765
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: him line up and cover four, but you're gonna show

766
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: a cover two, he's got to understand how to get

767
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: that look. And now cam buying him as a cornerback

768
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: from college knowing he can cover in space.

769
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 4: I really think he stood out like I like the

770
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 4: way he plays.

771
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: I like the speed in which he's playing, which shows

772
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: that he's understanding understanding Brian Floyd's defense. Because Kirk Cousins

773
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: and Justin Jeffson both said this, I heard him both

774
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: their pressers. What's been different, Well, we don't have to

775
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: learn a new offense. Well, I think cam bying them

776
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: is learning a new defense. But you don't feel that

777
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: pressure from them. They're like, look, we're learning a new defense,

778
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: but we're happy to learn this one because the one

779
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: last year wasn't great for us as a team because

780
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: it didn't fit what we do well. And now I

781
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: feel like Brian Flores is literally taking each player, watching

782
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: what they do well, say here's the defense I'm going

783
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: to put together. And I think that's why you know,

784
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: cam buying them so far to me has been he's

785
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: been running and flying around the field.

786
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 5: That's great, you know for me.

787
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 6: I also it's a guy who literally and figuratively has

788
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 6: been standing out walking out here as a guy in

789
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 6: Josh Oliver. He's a guy for me that I'm really

790
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 6: curious to see because We've had a lot of talk

791
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 6: this offseason since the signing. People are like, he doesn't

792
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 6: have a ton of stats, you know last year, only

793
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 6: had what fourteen receptions last season, But the idea with him,

794
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 6: they were saying, you know, he's one of the best

795
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 6: past pass pro and even running tight ends in the league.

796
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 6: And so with that being the case, you know you've

797
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 6: already he started to see some people commenting on some

798
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 6: of the run plays and seeing him stand some of

799
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 6: those defensive ends and linebackers up on those practice plays,

800
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 6: and so a guy like Josh Oliver, I really want

801
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 6: to see what he's gonna do for this offense and

802
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 6: if it just makes this offense even more versatile given

803
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 6: what happened last season. So for me, it's Josh Oliver

804
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 6: oh Man, that.

805
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 5: Would be so so beneficial to this team. If Josh

806
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 5: Oliver has a great year, I'm gonna go with Jowan Williams,

807
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 5: just not really understanding his story until about two weeks ago.

808
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: I believe he's prime for another, well not even for another,

809
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 5: but before a big year. He's been injury prone the

810
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 5: past couple of years. Finally got his first start in

811
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: the NFL last year in year three with the New

812
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 5: England Patriots, and then made the most of it, got injured,

813
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 5: got injured, reserve and it never you know, essentially worked

814
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: out for him. But there's like a new, new, redefined

815
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: purpose in his I guess the way he approaches the game.

816
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 5: I mean, we already know he's he has the physical abilities.

817
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 5: He's sixty two sixty three, looks like a linebacker out there.

818
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 5: He's like Harrison Smith's size basically playing cornerback. So I'm

819
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 5: excited to see what he can do. Uh, not really

820
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 5: knowing too much about him. I think a lot of

821
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 5: defenses or offenses, excuse me, offenses are going to take

822
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: him for granted because it's just like, oh, this is

823
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 5: a former second rounder who's been hurt, never really got

824
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 5: the opportunity, and let's check fade to his side. So

825
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: I think he's going to play with a chip on

826
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 5: his shoulder, and I think that's going to make this defense,

827
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 5: not only this defense, but this entire team a lot

828
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 5: better as we close, as we close out training camp,

829
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 5: is is there anything else you guys want to see?

830
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 5: As pads continued to come on, we started to get

831
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 5: into preseason games and we probably won't see the starters

832
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: until week one at Homing it's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah.

833
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: For me, I want to see Jordan Adison impress, like

834
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: I want to see one on ones. I want to

835
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: see him in press because everybody keep talking about this

836
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: weight you one hundred and seventy pounds, hundred and seventy

837
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 3: five pounds, forgetting that DeVonta Adams was won sixty six

838
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: and I got a chance to you know, neck with

839
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: you know, Keenan McCardell and just listening to how he

840
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: talks about Jordan Addison's size, and I think that's the key,

841
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: is like Jordan Adisen's size is not a problem. Why

842
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: because he's been that size his whole life. You know,

843
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: if it's one thing, if he was like two hundred

844
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: pounds all of a sudden lost weight or something, or

845
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: he was one seventy eight, he gain thirty pounds, or

846
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: how do you play. He's been this skinny, long fast

847
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: kid his whole life, so he knows how to take hits,

848
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: he knows how to absorb blows, he knows how to

849
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: get skinny if he's you know, dealing with the double

850
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 3: team and all this kind of stuff. So I want

851
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 3: to see him impress and not so much against his

852
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 3: own teammates because we know they're gonna compete, but they're

853
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: not gonna give you like I hate you slapping the face,

854
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: punch to the chest. I want to see him with

855
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: these joint practices, like Jordan Assen in pads, joint practice

856
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 3: one on one. I'm all eyes, like I'm sitting right

857
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: next to wherever the one on ones are, and I

858
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: want to see how jordanasen because if you notice, you

859
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: have to figure out who goes in the slot. If

860
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: I'm a coach, I'm putting kJ Osborn or Justin Jefferson

861
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: because I know they've been there before and I know

862
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 3: I can dictate coverage by putting Jefferson in a slot.

863
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: You can't double a slot guy like you can double

864
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: an outside guy. So I want to see what Jordanas

865
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: is going to do because I feel like if you

866
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 3: put kJ Osbourne and just Jefferson on the left, jordan

867
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: As on the right, he's manned up. And if I'm

868
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: manning up a guy with that speed, I probably want to.

869
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: I don't want to give him too much space. I

870
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: want to get in this. I want to make him uncomfortable.

871
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: So it's going to be that, like can he deal

872
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: with a guy like Jalen Ramsey, You know, a guy

873
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 3: with physical presence that's going to hit you in the chest,

874
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 3: like I mean, Xavier Rose is old. But you're gonna

875
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: deal with the Buccaneers defensive backfield. They are scary, they

876
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: are nasty, and they will hit you. And so that's

877
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: what I want to see in this joint practices. How

878
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: does he handle bigger, stronger cornerbacks than want to jam

879
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: him up?

880
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 6: For me, it is the backup quarterback situation. I want

881
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 6: to see Jaron Hall and Nick Mullins because a lot

882
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 6: of people have been speculating saying that we're only going

883
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 6: to keep two quarterbacks on this roster initially. But if

884
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 6: Jaron Hall does enough, especially in preseason, to warrant him

885
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 6: not being able to pass through on waivers or something

886
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 6: like that, like he's got to make the decision very

887
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 6: difficult for the quarterback coaches and the head coach himself.

888
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 6: So I'm going to be very curious to see just

889
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 6: how both those guys produced here in the preseason.

890
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: Well and don't you think that?

891
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: And I was talking after I was talking about this

892
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: with the other day, it's if you're serious about the

893
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: quarterback position, like the future of the quarterback position, Like

894
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: you need to make the decision of Charon Hall's your

895
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: guy and how much you want to invest in this?

896
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

897
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: I mean if you if you believe you are a

898
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: team that can win the division again, you're not going

899
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: to have a super low draft pick or a super high.

900
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: Draft pick next season.

901
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: Do you have enough draft capital to move up if

902
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: that's where you're going next? If Kirk's not gonna be

903
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: your guy, the next year, and if Nick Mullens isn't

904
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: the future, Yeah, the decision.

905
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: There is really tough if you only plan on keeping too.

906
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: So that's why they get paid the big bucks to

907
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: make those kinds of decisions, and we don't have.

908
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: To we don't have to do that. But I think

909
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: it's a really interesting situation.

910
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 6: And the thing is Kirk's been super durable, so you

911
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 6: really haven't had to worry too much about the idea of,

912
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 6: you know, who's coming in behind him in case he

913
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 6: gets hurt. But you know, you still have the future

914
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 6: playing for that kind of stuff too, And it's like

915
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 6: which guy gives you the best option during the season

916
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 6: if something like that were to happen, So they still

917
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 6: got to try to figure out, you know, what strategy

918
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 6: they want to run with. But for me, that's why

919
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 6: it's such a crucial battle here and training camp and

920
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 6: and basically preseason with everything.

921
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: So those are my guys, I'd say for Jaron Hall,

922
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 3: I like that point too. I think for Nick Mullins

923
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: and Jaron Hall, it's going to be actual games. Nick

924
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 3: Mullins is going to be a pocket passer. Jaron Hall

925
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: is going to be a guy that can scramble a

926
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: little bit, and I think he will be able to

927
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: open some eyes like on that because Kevin O'Connell talks

928
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: about this the off schedule. Patrick Mahomes talks about that

929
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: the off schedule, Like we heard that all through Netflix,

930
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: the off schedule. Kirk Cousin said, I know I'm not

931
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: a great off schedule guy. Well, if Jaron Hall comes

932
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: in all of a sudden and he's like hitting the

933
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: third progression read because he was able to make a

934
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: guy miss and he's scrambling, and all of a sudden

935
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: he makes a dot throw and then he comes back

936
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: the next time, maybe runs for ten yards, gets back

937
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 3: in the huddle, some type.

938
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: Of power where he's the actual runner.

939
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: People are gonna be like, oh, okay, this is something

940
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: different that the Vikings have not had. And it's not

941
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: to say he can't become that guy, because we know,

942
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: like Russell Wilson was drafting the third round, you know,

943
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: there's been some Dak Prescott was in the forefront. There's

944
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 3: been some late round guys that have actually gotten into

945
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: games and then open up a ton of eyes, So like, oh,

946
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: this guy could be our future. And so I think

947
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: for Jaron Hall, it's gonna be games in practice. He

948
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: hasn't had some great practices. But again, as a QB

949
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: in this league, at this level, your head is swimming,

950
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: you know, Anthony Richardson, Bryce Young, those guys are getting

951
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: c J strout, They're getting the playbook fed to them,

952
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: spoon fed. Hey, you need to know this. Jaron Hall

953
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: is being thrown to the wolves. Yeah, get out there,

954
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: here you go. I don't have a ton of time

955
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: to spend. You got to pick up what I'm telling

956
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins. So it's a big difference when you're number

957
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: one drafted and when you're drafted as a potential backup

958
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: third quarterback.

959
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you're the number one, they're kind of catering

960
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 6: the playbook to what you can do well, and a

961
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 6: guy like him, it's you know, get in here because

962
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 6: we're feeding Kirk at this point, so you better get

963
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 6: on the page what we want. The one thing I

964
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 6: remember watching a couple BYU games with jarn Hall when

965
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 6: it would get to those situations where he'd be scrambling,

966
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 6: he'd be looking downfield, but you could kind of tell

967
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 6: like he just prefers to tuck the rock and run.

968
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 6: So you know, Now I was really curious, Like I've

969
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 6: been talking for the last how many years saying, if

970
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 6: you look at some of the guys that have been

971
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 6: coming out with your Russell Wilson's and Kyler Murray and

972
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 6: some of those guys that were more baseball oriented, and

973
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 6: they have that kind of Patrick Mahomes arm to him

974
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 6: kind of a thing, like all of those guys have

975
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 6: the ability to on the on the run make just

976
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 6: unorthodox throws. And so when Jaren Hall had the baseball background,

977
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 6: he likes to run that kind of stuff, And like,

978
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 6: how's that going to translate when he gets to the

979
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 6: pros Because if he's stuttering at all when he's trying

980
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 6: to make his progressions, he's going to miss his windows

981
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 6: to throw. But if he's somebody that can actually put

982
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 6: it together all across the board that way and make

983
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 6: those split decisions, and he's got the athleticism on his

984
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 6: feet and he's got the ability to throw the ball accurately,

985
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 6: Like that's a potential diamond in the rough that you

986
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 6: took in the later chunk of the draft. So he's

987
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 6: been one of my guys from the beginning when we

988
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 6: draft him, Like, if this guy pans out. This is

989
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 6: a huge, huge get for this offense, especially in a

990
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 6: position that we've been looking for, you know, future proof

991
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 6: guys for a very long time.

992
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: Man, that would be great.

993
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the whole.

994
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why you draft later quarterbacks just in

995
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: case they're that the one guy that did.

996
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 5: The Tom Brady yes, and I mean Cracy, that's what

997
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 5: he's known for. I mean, he's been in organizations where

998
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 5: in San Francisco where you never draft a quarterback in

999
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 5: the first round. You pretty much build a system around

1000
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 5: him and let the quarterback just be that final piece

1001
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 5: of the puzzle and just make sure he doesn't make

1002
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 5: any mistakes. So we know Kirk can do a little

1003
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 5: bit more than that. That's why a lot of teams

1004
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 5: won them. And I'm glad that he's in purple. But

1005
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 5: still to have a guy in Jaron Hall and Nick

1006
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 5: Mullins behind you're starting quarterback and Kirk Cousins, I believe

1007
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 5: this offense will still be very, very good in twenty

1008
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 5: twenty three. Well, guys, appreciate you. Today was a lot

1009
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: of fun. Vikings fans. If you want to be out

1010
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Speaker 5: here with us one of these days during training camp,

1011
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1013
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Speaker 3: Eric?

1014
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Speaker 1: Oh, well, if you're ready for DJ, we got the

1015
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Speaker 1: Thursday night game or on Thursday, so you definitely want

1016
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Speaker 1: to get your tickets for that. They're still available two

1017
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Speaker 1: for one. Busy's Ron that was directed to you.

1018
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Speaker 5: Like, Byron gets to the point, give me straight bourbon.

1019
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Speaker 4: I don't think they're doing They should.

1020
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Speaker 5: Talk about a sold out practice. Yeah. Well, appreciate you guys.

1021
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Speaker 5: This was fun. Vikings fans if you're listening, appreciate you

1022
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Speaker 5: talk to you guys next week.