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Speaker 1: Welcome into North Side Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sahade Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are

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Speaker 1: your club's beat writers over at the Athletic h Patrick.

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Speaker 1: Let's do a mailbag episode today. You're you're out in La.

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Speaker 1: The first question is gonna handle the immediate news that

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Speaker 1: we have from La. I gotta say, I'm gonna sidetrack

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Speaker 1: us for a quick moment here. But what's the weather

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Speaker 1: like in La?

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Speaker 2: Or like is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it pretty nice? And Sonny out there?

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Speaker 3: It's about seventy five in Sonny?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, we have our first like I've seen the sun.

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Speaker 1: I've went and took the dogs for a walk and

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Speaker 1: I was overdressed in a hoodie, like not even like

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Speaker 1: a coat, a hoodie, and I felt warm. So you

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Speaker 1: guys are missing the first or maybe not the first,

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Speaker 1: the first sunny, nice day in a while. We'll see

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Speaker 1: how long it lasts and if it if it if

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Speaker 1: it's there for when when it comes back come back

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Speaker 1: to town, or or if it's disgusting cloudy and rainy again.

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Speaker 3: Uh? Where was We're going to Dodger Stadium and not

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Speaker 3: packing a winter jacket and gloves going to a game

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Speaker 3: in April. So h we'll take that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Patrick, I was gonna ask you about

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Speaker 1: Justin Steele. But here's the first question. How bad is

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Speaker 1: the Justin Steel injury? Do you think the Cubs have

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Speaker 1: the starting pitching depth?

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Speaker 2: That's as death. I should have edited that death.

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Speaker 1: Can Matthew Boyd's success success continue long term? That's from

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Ken, the update was not very optimistic on Friday at

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Speaker 3: Dodger Stadium. We are recording on Saturday morning. H this

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Speaker 3: is kind of been a place where Justin Steele is

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Speaker 3: seeking additional opinion or opinions, essentially taking a couple different

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Speaker 3: interpretations of his most recent MRI, which happened Thursday. Look,

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Speaker 3: we don't know what happens next, Craig Council stress, no

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Speaker 3: decisions have been made, and that Justin is waiting to

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Speaker 3: gather all of the information from kind of a variety

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Speaker 3: of experts. But look, going to seek out more opinions

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Speaker 3: doesn't sound great. Like I'm not a doctor. We don't

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Speaker 3: want to speculate, but I think the Cubs have to

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Speaker 3: be reassessing what their team could look like without Justin

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Speaker 3: Steele for a chuck of this season at least. So

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Speaker 3: it's the same injury he had last September. He came

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Speaker 3: back in just under three weeks, and I guess theoretically

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Speaker 3: there could be a path to where, you know, some

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Speaker 3: sort of rest, treatment, strengthening helps him get through it.

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Speaker 3: But this has happened multiple times and that is concerning,

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Speaker 3: so no doubt it will test the starting pitching depth.

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Speaker 3: Matthew Boyd looked very good Friday night at Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 3: I believe he's put up zeros in like sixteen out

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Speaker 3: of seventeen innings so far as a Cub. He had

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Speaker 3: in one rough inning against the Dodgers, which happens, and

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Speaker 3: it just happened to be, you know, the mistake pitch

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Speaker 3: wound up being a three run homer. Tommy and then

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Speaker 3: is like the greatest player of all time when he

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Speaker 3: plays the club rec recency bias. But and Boyd gave

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Speaker 3: a really good answer Friday night. Jordan bast and our

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Speaker 3: buddy asked him about kind of whether this you know,

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Speaker 3: they don't know exactly what's going to happen with Steel,

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Speaker 3: but they can kind of put two and two together

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Speaker 3: and know that they're going to have to, you know,

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Speaker 3: pick up some of the slack here. And you know,

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Speaker 3: Boyd said, Justin Steel's kind of a one of one pitcher,

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Speaker 3: like there's no replacing him right away. But there's depth

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Speaker 3: kind of on the horizon there at Triple A. So

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Speaker 3: no doubt this will be just an enormous test for

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Speaker 3: you know, an organization with playoffs or bust pressure right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean when it comes to Justin Steele,

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Speaker 1: we we kind of we struck an optimistic tone because

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Speaker 1: that's what the Cubs were telling us. But I think

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Speaker 1: we both agreed, like Thursday's the biggest day, that the

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Speaker 1: MRI is is what matters, and now we have the

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Speaker 1: results of that, and I wouldn't strike as optimistic of

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Speaker 1: a tone when you're getting a second opinion. Rarely is

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Speaker 1: I got a text from someone with another club last

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Speaker 1: night watching.

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Speaker 2: The game, saying Matthew Boyd looks nasty.

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Speaker 1: I didn't catch the entire game. I saw I saw

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Speaker 1: But you know that's you know, these former Cardinals, these Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: I like Ben Brown, We're gonna see how he does

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. He needs to bounce back. He needs to

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Speaker 1: have a much better outing than he did against the Padres.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise you start talking about, you know, or he can

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Speaker 1: make starts for this team, right, like if he's gonna

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Speaker 1: if he has anything similar to the Padres outing, those

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Speaker 1: those are the types of outings that really hurt you.

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Speaker 1: So you can't have those types of outings consistently. Javier

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Speaker 3: Yes, so Creep being very close to getting back into

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Speaker 3: the rotation picture.

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Speaker 2: Right, so you have him.

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Speaker 1: My guess is you know Jordan Wicks is not on

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Speaker 1: Say that with absolute certainty, but I think that's a

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Speaker 1: like when you don't see him on the Iowa scheduled,

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Speaker 1: they're at least holding him for that possibly yea reserves.

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Speaker 1: So so those are the two main guys. When you

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Speaker 1: Horton is not ready. We're probably there are probably questions.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that we're about Kate Horton.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: You cannot rush your top pitching prospect. He looks really good.

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Speaker 1: I got someone reached out to me, not within the ORG, saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: kid Orton looks really good. If you can, you know,

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Speaker 1: The mechanical adjustments they made, which I think were just like,

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Speaker 2: Not happening in April or May.

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Speaker 1: They want him to make starts, they want him to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, until he's healthy again, which we don't have any

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Speaker 1: Pitching, John Rose asked, how early is too early to

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Speaker 1: trade for pitching? Preller jumps aj Preller, who's the who's

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Speaker 1: the president of baseball ops for the Padres. He jumps

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's the Cubs front office. M they

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Speaker 2: Negotiations as long as they did.

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Speaker 1: Any of that, right, like some of this stuff. But

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Speaker 1: So they're acting a little bit differently because they understand

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Speaker 1: It's just really hard to jump to market, right you

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Speaker 1: need Let's say everyone's talking about Sandy el Contra. Listen,

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Speaker 2: But you know, like.

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Speaker 1: There's he's he's done a remarkable job of restocking that

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Speaker 3: The only thing I would say though, is that that

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Speaker 3: Did Wicks turn a quarter? Because part of it, too

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't have.

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Speaker 3: An infinite number of prospects, and you know, money and

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Speaker 3: It is interesting that John mentioned Preller because Jed Hoyer

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Speaker 1: No one's going to give him fourteen million now right

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Speaker 3: He's also someone who can afford to be very choosy

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Speaker 1: ramp up the ramp up in the price of the

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Speaker 1: two things that kind of stand out to me is like,

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Speaker 1: how do you how do you agree on what the

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Speaker 1: value is there. Patrick, I'm before we go, I just

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Speaker 1: want to say, like, I'm really curious to see how

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Speaker 1: the offense does the rest of the weekend. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Is it just Yamamoto's just awesome?

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Speaker 2: Is that what it is like? Because this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's twice now that he's made this offense look,

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Speaker 1: you know, just not very imposing, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: the offense is good. Some of the stuff I wrote

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Speaker 1: over the off day about the numbers, Listen, they're babbitt

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Speaker 1: with runners in scoring position is really elevated. That's not

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Speaker 1: gonna last. But there's underlying numbers that I like about

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Speaker 2: Two things that.

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Speaker 1: Don't slump for the patients and the base running. So

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Speaker 1: if they're not purely hitting, you would like to think

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Speaker 1: that they can manufacture some runs in different ways. Get

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Speaker 1: on base and steal a bag here there, and play

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Speaker 1: a little bit of small ball. The base running bit

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Speaker 1: them yesterday, but you know, I think that's gonna Like

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Speaker 1: Council even said early in the season when when the

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Speaker 1: base running stood out, Listen, that's gonna lead to some

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Speaker 1: outs on the bases, just the way we do things.

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Speaker 1: But it's probably gonna win us more than it'll cost.

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Speaker 2: Uh, So I'm just curious to.

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Speaker 1: See how it goes to Susaki is has been better.

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Speaker 1: I think they should be able to hit these guys

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Speaker 1: like Sasaki if they can't. Yamamoto maybe on another level

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Speaker 1: right now that maybe he's in the midst of like

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Speaker 1: a Sayon campaign, because he's just completely baffled them for

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Speaker 1: two starts so and he's been in general really good

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Speaker 1: this season, So you know, that's what I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: curious to see how they do because it's tough pitching

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Speaker 1: these next to these next few games, and I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: downplay Susaki is great, so you know, it's not like

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Speaker 1: it'll be easy. They have nothing easy for the next

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Speaker 1: few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, curious to see how that goes. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for listening to everyone. We'll be back next week.

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Speaker 1: Patrick is out there out in the West Coast all

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Speaker 1: weekend and into next week, so we'll hear from you

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Speaker 1: about the Dodgers and the Padres and everything else. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll do another mailbag episode see what else we get

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Speaker 1: from you guys. Thanks so much for listening to everyone.

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