1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, everybody, 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire. Thursday, February. There is 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: a big basketball game tonight, Lakers Nets. No Kevin Durant 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: will see about Kyrie Irving, obviously, no Anthony Davis. But 5 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: before we get to the game, and we will talk 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: about it with our guest, Katino Mobile, former NBA. All right, 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: he's a really good player in the NBA. I've worked 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: with him at Fox Sports Radio, just a chill guy. 9 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: I try to get in some of his pickout pickup 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: games out here in l A and let's just say 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: that has not happened yet. Um, he's got some interesting theories. UM. 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant will want to listen to this for sure. UM, 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan fans will not. But I don't want to 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: spoil it. I quickly, before we get to the interview, 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: I need to just talk about what was a pretty 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: insane Wednesday night in the NBA. And I know what 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: you're thinking, Jason, It's Wednesday in February. Who cares about 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: the NBA, folks. I just want to just I just 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: need to put this out there. You know, we'll have 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: to dive deeper into it next week or something, maybe 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: around the All Star break. So the Utah Jazz win 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: their nineteen game in the last twenty games, seventeen of 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: them by double digits. Now, the Clippers didn't have Paul 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: George and Kawhi Leonard Um, so they obviously Jazz should 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: have won. But we need to start taking note of 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: the Jazz who have won nineteen of twenty. Damian Lillard 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: has entered the top six, maybe top five in the 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: m v P. Candidacy forty three points, sixteen assists. Portland 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: wins again. They're surging. Remember I love this Portland's team. 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: Coming into the season, they had some injuries. They were 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: stumbling out of the gate. They are now eighteen to ten. 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Just keep an eye on Portland. Joel Embiid another nice 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: game eleven and nine. Um Trey Young had forty on Boston. 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: Everybody loves the Denver Nuggets. They lose in Washington. Davis bertands, 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: this is the state of the NBA right now. And 36 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: a lot of you guys, I know, I know some 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: of the dads I'm friends with out here in l A. 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: You know they don't they like the NBA. But they're 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: not watching every night. You know. I'm in a fantasy 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: league with a bunch of dads. Some of them definitely 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: listen to this, And so I'm checking box scores because 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: my son and I need to pick up guys, folks. 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: Davis Bertand's hit nine threes for the Wizards at thirty 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: five points and they beat the Nuggets. By the way, 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: the Nuggets are so overrated this year. Everybody was all 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: excited about their Western Conference Finals run last year. There 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: was some smoking mirrors there. Remember that Utah series win. Okay, like, 48 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: come on, if that buzzer beating shot in Game seven falls, 49 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: the Nuggets are no big deal coming into this season, 50 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: and they struggled again and finally, and this is crazy 51 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: Sabonus of the Pacers in a great rally for Indiana 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: to win in overtime against sorry as Minnesota. Sabonis had 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: thirty six, sevent and ten, And on the surface, you're like, 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: must be no defense. Maybe Minnesota doesn't play defense. They 55 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: don't do much of anything. Well, but just for some context, 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: and I put this out on Twitter, and of course 57 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: people got angry. Sa Bonus of the Pacers. This is 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: a kid who went to Gazaga. He's putting up such 59 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: good numbers. He's averaging almost what Kevin Garnett did. When 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: KG won the m v P in two thousand four. 61 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: KG was in Minnesota. There was some controversy whether or 62 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: not he should have won the m v P. He 63 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: was a great defensive player that year, obviously, UM, but 64 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Sabonus and the league's offense in general, it's off the charts. 65 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: People are not talking enough about how good offenses in 66 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: the NBA right now. I just needed to get that 67 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: off my chest. Obviously, Katino Mobile will talk a little 68 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: bit about it more shortly. But I did think the 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: biggest story in sports on Wednesday was the retirement of 70 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow from baseball. And I'm sure some people will say, well, 71 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: Jay Tebow didn't even make the majors, how the hell 72 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: is he the biggest story. And I'm gonna reference you 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: to an interview Tim Tebow did when he was trying 74 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: to break into baseball, and he essentially said, you know, hey, man, 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: I was great in college. I was, you know, one 76 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: of the greatest college football players of the generation. UM, 77 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: I tried the NFL. I want a playoff game, but 78 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: I didn't really materialize and I'm gonna try baseball now. 79 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm chasing my dreams. And you know, you couldn't hear 80 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: the snickering in the media room, but there's a lot 81 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: of people rooting against Tim Tebow. You know, he's heavily 82 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: into religion and loves to reference God, shout out to 83 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: God and Jesus, and it's weird there there's so much 84 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: backlash against Tebow. It's like he's too good and too wholesome. 85 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: And people laughed at him for giving his dream a 86 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: shot trying to be a professional baseball player. He never 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: made the majors and I'm sure some people will say 88 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: I failed. And there is a speech the Tebow gave 89 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: that said, you know, don't let other people define you. 90 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: You know, you're always it's gonna have critics. You're just you, 91 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: just are. They're gonna say you can't do that, you 92 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't try that, You're not gonna do that. Who cares 93 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: what they say? You do whatever you want, chase your dreams, 94 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: you do. You don't let fear and doubt impact your decisions. 95 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: And I just love that Tim Tebow. I mean, you 96 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: got to look it up on YouTube. I popped in 97 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: on social media. It's only like two minutes, but it's 98 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: just like you hear that and you're like, man, Tim 99 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Tebow is gonna have a really nice long career as 100 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: a public speaker because I'll listen to Tebow talk. He's uplifting. 101 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: We need more positivity. Come on, guys, you know this, 102 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: Anything you say, you're either perceived as a hater or 103 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: they're coming back at you that you suck, you staying, 104 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: shut up, you're wrong. That's like all it is right now. 105 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: This whole everybody gets a voice is great and fine, 106 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: but what happens when like of those voices are negativity 107 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: and just angry people firing off missives about how bad 108 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: people suck and you're wrong and this guy's a quitter. 109 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: And I just I love everything about Tim Tebow. Um 110 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: going back to his college days at Florida, Man, I 111 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: mean listen, I know he played on some teams. It 112 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: was some guys who got in trouble. Tim Tebow didn't 113 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: get in trouble. He just won football games in the SEC. 114 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: That's what he did. And then he went to the 115 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: NFL and people said he can't play quarterback, and he 116 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: took the Denver Broncos on just a joy ride to 117 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I still get goose bumps watching Tim 118 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: Tebow beat the Pittsburgh Steelers on that slant pass in overtime, 119 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: and I'll remember watching that just like, uh, the kid 120 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: catches the pass and you're like, oh my gosh, is 121 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: he gonna go? Is Tebow gonna win this game? And 122 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: they take down the Steelers and You're just like, Tebow, 123 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: this is great, this is awesome. I love it. I 124 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: remember betting on Tebow in that game, and uh, luckily 125 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: I did not bet on the next game they got 126 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: smashed by the Patriots. Was like, but who cares Tebow 127 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: won a playoff game. You know, there's a lot of 128 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: guys who would love to taste a playoff victory. Matt Stafford, 129 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: I'll get one this year. But just listen to that 130 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: Tebow's each guys. I'm sure there's a lot of young 131 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: people listening because you guys DM me all the time. Man, 132 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: how do you crack in? How do I develop sources? Jason? 133 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: What what's the best way to get where you are? 134 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: And I mean listen, there is a meme on Instagram 135 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: where it's like everybody sees you on the stand getting 136 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: the first place trophy. But what they don't see is 137 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: the long hours and the hard work. And you know, 138 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: your family goes on vacation, and you know, you bring 139 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: your podcast material and your recording interviews, and you're maybe 140 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: not skiing, and you're working on your game and crafting 141 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: what you're gonna say tomorrow, and you're lining up your 142 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: next guest, and then maybe you're working on a piece 143 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: four Fox Sports about NBA futures that's dropping Friday. Um, 144 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: the work never stops. You just you gotta put in 145 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: the time. If you love it, you'll do it, and 146 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: if you don't, you know, you'll move on to something else. 147 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: But I'm a Tim Tebow fan. I think I always 148 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: will be, and I commend him for trying to get 149 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: to the majors. And uh, without further ado, let's get 150 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: to Katino mo Blie. Former NBA basketball player. Jason likes 151 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: to think he knows everything when it comes to sports. 152 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: I know what sports stands want, but for everything he doesn't, 153 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: he knows a guy who does. Let's just say I 154 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: know a guy who who knows a guy he knows 155 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: another guy. All right, let's welcome into the podcast. A 156 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: guy I you know, I followed his career when he 157 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: was at Rhode Island because we'll get into that, and 158 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: then in the NBA, and then I saw him at 159 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: the Fox Sports radio studios and it only it says 160 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: he's six four, and I mean, this guy looks like 161 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: he's like six eight and he just super friendly. Katino Mobley, 162 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: what's up, my man? How you doing? My guys? How 163 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: you doing man? What's up Jake? We'll get to the 164 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: current NBA. But I was just looking at your stats 165 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: given your career, UM second round pick who average sixteen 166 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: points a game for his career, and Katino, I was 167 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: trying to think of the best team you played on 168 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: in your career. Um, you played on a briefly a 169 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: really good King's team at the end of their run. 170 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: You're on a Rockets team. Uh it was okay, Um, 171 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: what what would you say was the best team you 172 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: played on? Maybe it was that Clippers team near the end. Well, yeah, 173 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: you know, for you know, just to say we were young, 174 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: Steve and I were a Rockets team. And you know, 175 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: I was telling somebody the other day all Stars when 176 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: I played, eight of them were under the twelve spots. 177 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Eight of them were bigs. Uh, you know, you had 178 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: all the bigs, and then you have four guards and 179 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: Kobe was the youngest one, and then it was um 180 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: uh Jason Kidd and uh Gary Payton and uh who 181 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: took the other guard spots. So it was hard for 182 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: me and Steve. It was hard for me, um in 183 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: the beginning. Uh. Steve got voted in popular as popular, 184 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: but we were averaging around the same point at that time, 185 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: so um, you know, you know, we were winning, you know, 186 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: forty seven games. But in the East, I mean in 187 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: the West, forty something games a year didn't matter. Now 188 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: forty some games it's cool. You can make the playoffs. 189 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: And in the East you can win twenty some games 190 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: and make the playoffs. So I should have went to 191 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: the East. But anyway, you know, Sacramento was a lot easier, 192 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: uh to score because you have so many scores. But 193 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think for me, uh the easiest in 194 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: scoring with Sacramento because we had a lot of scores. 195 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: I think, um, my most productivity, but you know, not 196 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: learning a lot because Steve and I were getting our 197 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: butts beating. Because even though we were top guards in uh, 198 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, top three combo guards in the league averaging 199 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: twenty points. You know, then you go to uh, then 200 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: you go to uh the Clippers where you know, you 201 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: have Sam c Cell, you have Belton Bred, you have 202 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: Corey Maghetti. And it wasn't my job to average morning 203 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: stuff points. It was my job to help, you know, 204 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: lead and do what I can so, you know, and 205 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: and the Clippers not making the playoffs for you know, 206 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: fourteen fourteen years and I'm going there, you know that 207 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: was that was more so my goal. So average in 208 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen was just enough to have Elton Brand getting 209 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: his twenty some points, and Corey mcghetty being uh getting 210 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: twenty and Sam and myself, you know, I was seventeen 211 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: saying I think I was sixteen or fifteen. You know, 212 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: we just wanted to make sure it helped them learn 213 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: how to win and be winners. That's about all we 214 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: could do. Yeah, I just want to quickly ask about 215 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: the Rockets, that team that Yao Ming was on. He 216 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: was a rookie. You guys had Jim Jackson, you had 217 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: Steve Francis. Um, what do you remember about yaw entering 218 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: the league? Um? I mean he was a massive deal. 219 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: And continue, I do have to recall I went to 220 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: the locker room wants to do a story on yaw 221 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: And I mean, I know he's your friend, but Steve 222 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: Francis could not have been a bigger jerk to me. Uh, 223 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: just like very basic questions and he was like basically 224 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: get the f out of my face. I was like cheeze. Um. Yeah, yeah, 225 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: he was kind of kind of difficult. But what do 226 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: you remember about that yao ming first season? Um, I 227 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: mean listen, it was it was crazy. I mean, you know, 228 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: the first uh you know, big phenomenal coming to America, 229 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: and uh, it was. It was a lot of It 230 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: was a lot. It was a lot going on, you know. 231 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: So I don't know how Steve treated everybody else, but 232 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, um as far as y'all me, you know, 233 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: he was just learning, you know, and all of us 234 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: are learning. We were all young, and uh Steve was 235 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: young as well. Sorry, um, I'm tying my shoot. Uh 236 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, Steve is young as well, So I'm not 237 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: giving him excuse. But you know, when you're we're not no, seriously, 238 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: when you're not used to just in anybody, when you're 239 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: not used to all these different types of things that's 240 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: going on, you know how to act, and yeah, mean 241 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: came from a really good family. Steve come from family 242 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: means family, you know, a little more humble when in China, 243 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people coming through here, so y'all, you know, 244 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: the language burg was something else. So he was getting 245 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, translation from this guy Colin. So y'all couldn't 246 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: answer a lot of questions anyway, and there was a 247 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: thousand questions coming at him left and right, so you 248 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: know it was I mean, we would be on busses 249 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: and along with Steve myself now you have, y'all, mean, 250 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: so everything was just like it was a lot. You know, 251 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: it's just a lot going on. So yeah, I want 252 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: to compare your game to the current an NBA, Contino, 253 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: because I gotta be honest, Like when I recall and 254 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: start watching some YouTube stuff for you, you had the 255 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: post up game, you had the three ball game, but Steve, 256 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: the three was not what it is today, not even close. 257 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Contino, like they didn't want you guys shooting 258 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: so many threes, but you could have. You were like 259 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: a thirty seven percent three point shooter in your career. Contino, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 260 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: don't don't short change it. I was like thirty, don't 261 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: don't don't shot, don't short change it from me, don't 262 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: do that. But no, not seriously. You know, we we 263 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: we grew up around the guards, were like posting up 264 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: and you know, being a little more aggressive and thunking 265 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: the ball. Steve and I dunked the ball a lot, 266 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: so you know, um, it wasn't cheating threes, it was 267 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: attacking the rim so um and and at that time, 268 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: you know, I think I average I don't know, four 269 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: or threes, four or five threes a game, you know 270 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: for my career, maybe four threes a game for my career, whatever, 271 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: five threes in my career. So you know, I was 272 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: just trying to you know, our coaches telling us, don't 273 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: build anybody out, you know. So you know when you 274 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: when you grew up with the bigs and the ball 275 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: has to go down low first. You know, you can't 276 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: be pumping threes up when they get double that's when 277 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: you shoot the threes. So I think that transition helped 278 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of these other guys. And you know, 279 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: we're a little physical back then too, so you know, 280 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: now it's you know, uh, the what do you call it? 281 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: The fans want to see. I guess more port, so 282 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: you can't be touching as much now, so you know, 283 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: it's you know, teachers own it's not a big deal. 284 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, if you're not touching me 285 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: and I'm getting that ball fifteen teach in the basket, 286 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long night, especially back then. Yeah, 287 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I watched CJ. McCollum. Currently, I see 288 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: a guy like Donovan Mitchell and I think that is 289 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: kind of the game you would have right, pick and roll, 290 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: post up. I'm gonna hit you with the threes because 291 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: you could really do it all. And I'm not gassing 292 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: you up here. I mean could Cantino. People I think 293 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: don't realize how effective you were all you're all around game. Yeah, no, 294 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: it's all you know, listen, Uh, they did what I 295 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: had to do as I wasn't one thing. I was 296 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: a basketball player. So if it was big in the 297 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: post and they wanted me to shoot threes, that's what 298 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: I would do. If I had to post people up, 299 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: that's what I would do. If I had to take 300 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: people to the cup, that's what I would do and 301 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: pick them roll. So you know, um, you know, I 302 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: just you know, I grew up in there everywhere. You know, 303 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: you're just a basketball player. Kobe shot, you know, post up, 304 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: mid range, you know, I mean we Rayal and Rip Hamilton. 305 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: You know a lot of us we we we had, 306 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, from the three, to the mid range to 307 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: to the basket. A lot of guys don't do a 308 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: lot of it. It's either go three or a thousand 309 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: dribbles or to the basket. It's nothing in the mid range. 310 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: And that's why I love Devin Booker and I love 311 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: Bradley Beal because they mix it up right, and that's 312 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: the reason why they're gonna be so effective. And they're 313 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: bringing back the mid range, which they should. Uh so. Yeah, 314 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: So that's why I love those guys. Those guys in 315 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: my favorite now. I was watching a Pelicans game the 316 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: other night with my son, and I was like, you know, 317 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: Bryce watched this. All it is is a pick at 318 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: the top brandon ingram where some guard drives, the defense collapses, 319 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: and it's just kick it to a three point shooter. 320 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: And that was basically all the Pilicans did. They attempted 321 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: something like forty forty two threes whatever it was. When 322 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: you watch the current game, Katino. Does it kind of 323 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: frustrate you or do you like it? What are your 324 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: thoughts given the way you grew up playing basketball? No, 325 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't frustrate me. Is it's just a transition, right, 326 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: It's just you know, it's just that's how it is. 327 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: It's like me saying, you know, it's like Michael and 328 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying when they played the ad to frustrate them 329 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: and maybe a frustrated them. But basketball, you know, it's 330 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: just the same sports. Just I think the only thing 331 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: that does frustrate me. This reason why I love the 332 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: Bradley Bills and the Columns and the Lillard's and uh, 333 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, the Bookers is because they have mid range games. Um, 334 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: and that's what I like a lot. You know. I 335 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: look at those guys a lot, and I see and 336 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: you know that Kevin Durant of course is the best 337 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: of the best, you know, and then you have Stephane Curry. 338 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: They used the whole They used the whole court, you know, 339 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: and that's what that's what I like. I love all 340 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: the young guys, but these these guys, for me, you 341 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: can tell they studied the game and they scored all that. Yeah, 342 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: let me ask you Katino, you mentioned Kevin Durant. The 343 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: Nets have a huge game against Lebron tonight, huge massive game. 344 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: Now there's no Anthony Davis, so obviously you know the 345 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: Nets are gonna be expected to win. They're gonna pick 346 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: on you. They're gonna pick on my man. They're gonna 347 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: pick on my man. Who's who's your guy? They're gonna 348 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: pick on Lebron. Now, Kevin duran and Kyrie didn't play yesterday, 349 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: so now I bet you they're gonna play today. What 350 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: the James, and they're gonna try to pick on my man. 351 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think of this NETS team, this 352 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: Nets experiment. I mean, there are times where Jeff Green 353 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: is their biggest guy on the court for like, you know, 354 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: large stretches of the game. I don't want to say 355 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: they're stealing the Rockets small ball, but basically that's all 356 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: you see from from the Nets. Can they win with 357 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: this yeah, I mean, you know what, I don't know 358 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 1: if they can win with it, but they can get 359 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: pretty far. Now they do a trade with Drummond or 360 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: someone else, I think they would be in the ranks. 361 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: So when a d come back to be able to compete, 362 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: so it's what I'm out side outside of the stories. 363 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to compete with Lebron and 364 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: you can never count Lebron out. But when you have 365 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: you know, the I think personally the best score ever 366 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: and Kevin Durant, and then you have one of the 367 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: best passers and scores, and and James Harden who's actually 368 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: moving more towards being a facilitator truthfully, and then Kyrie Irvin. 369 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, short of Kyrie Irvin is one of 370 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: the best, you know, creative scores that we've ever seen. 371 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: So you know, you still have a nice little season left. 372 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: So once they gel and they get that big, to me, 373 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be really dangerous in the what 374 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: the East, especially during the fourth quarter. You know, one 375 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: of them is gonna like James last night, showing that 376 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: we don't really need k deal Kyrie tonight. I'm gonna 377 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: bring us back myself, right, And you know, you're still 378 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: dealing with a very tough UH Phoenix team and Booker 379 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: and Chris Paul. But you know, listen, you don't let 380 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: one of the best players in the in the world 381 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: come down. Don't touch him until he gets a three 382 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: point last step back and do the same thing. That's 383 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: just slow to me. You know, you don't just don't 384 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: do stuff like that. Yeah, I love I love Brooklyn. Yeah, 385 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: I need to back up. Katino Mobile just said that 386 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is the best scorer ever. You played against Kobe, 387 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: you played against Lebron. You grew up watching Michael Jordan's. 388 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant a better score than all of them. Huh oh, 389 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: But for anybody, it doesn't. I'm not saying this. Lebron 390 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: James is the best ever to me, but the best 391 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: scores different. Like the most dominant player to me, Chaquille 392 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: oineo no matter whatever, it doesn't matter. He was big, 393 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: athletics strong. I mean, Chaquille O'Neal came in when all 394 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: the sinners were there, and he's dunking and dominating on everybody. Okay, 395 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant add more tenacity and will and hard work. 396 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and Tracy McGrady are the most talented. It's 397 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: a difference. Brince Carter athletic ability in his talent is 398 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: up there, So I mean there's a there's a big difference. 399 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: Ke Then Kevin Durant shoots better drivel is better post stuff, 400 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: better drive to the basketballer at seven feet than anybody. 401 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's no one else. If you can name 402 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: someone else, let me know. Well, I mean he's not 403 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: seven feet. But you just named like eight players and 404 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: none of them was Michael Jordan's. I was a little surprised. 405 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: I mean, people are gonna be surprised when they hear that. 406 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: I didn't listen. I don't. Michael Jordan's amazing, Okay, but 407 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: that's like Michael Jordan, Bill Russell is amazing. But I'm 408 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 1: talking about evolution of things, right, So you're gonna use 409 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: a Microsoft eighty five or you're gonna Apple of two 410 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty one. You tell me, Jakes, I'm with you. 411 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: I'm with you, you know. But the pushback, well, Michael 412 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: went six and oh listen too. As a guy who 413 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: played at the highest levels. Um, you know what, why 414 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: don't people want to just toss out, Hey, I get it, 415 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: six and oh in the finals? What about all this 416 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: years he didn't get to the finals, couldn't get out 417 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: of the East. Yeah, yeah, the first eight or nine 418 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: years or something like that, Right until Scottie Pippen and 419 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Jill Jack seen came. But let's not get it twisted. Okay, 420 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: your first championship, which I love, Michael, but your first 421 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: championship Magic had you guys, you won, you lost the 422 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: first game, and then Scottie Pippen start Guard Magic. If 423 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: Scottie Pimper don't start Guard Magic and wearing him now 424 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: in that second game on they don't win that series. 425 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: And then Karl Malone, who I love and one of 426 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: the best power for its ever, if he makes his 427 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: free throws his free throws, that changes the whole series. 428 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: So you need luck along with talent and hard work. 429 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: And not to say Michael wasn't. It's not one of 430 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: the best because me growing up, Michael's the best. But 431 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: if you're gonna make like Weird Science the movie, if 432 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: you're going to make the perfect person, you don't make 433 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: six six, two or five, you make six nine vision 434 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: like Magic. Johnson score forty easy, run like a deer 435 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: cheetah on the floor and has the cave abillity to 436 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: run a team by himself. That's what you would make. Now. 437 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: I didn't realize we got along this much on Lebron First, 438 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: Jordan's uh continue, let me ask you about Steph Curry, 439 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, uh, below the rim guy six three. There 440 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: is this weird thing and I've talked to a bunch 441 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: of players about this, how players don't seem to respect 442 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: Curry as much, and some have even joked maybe it's 443 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: a light skin thing, maybe it's a below the rim thing. 444 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: But what we're seeing Curry do this year with a 445 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: bunch of G League guys, basically, I'm kind of in 446 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: awe of it. Where are you on Curry right now? 447 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: I love him. He's one of my favorites. I've known 448 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: that kid, watching that kids shoot. Alvin Williams one of 449 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: my best friends. Um, I'm winning one of the best friends. 450 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: Whore playing in Toronto, so del Curry was playing there 451 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: and Steph would shoot there. So it's all it's all this, 452 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: All that is um seeing his kids since he was 453 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: about ten or whatever it was years old, So you know, 454 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: I mean he was he was fundamental then and I 455 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: love watching them now. So I mean he's one of 456 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: the Actually, he's the best shooter ever to me. Um, 457 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: you know him and Ray Allen and Reggie Miller. But 458 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, just watching him evolved and and and doing 459 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: the things he's doing right now, that's not an easy 460 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: thing to do. Let me ask, uh, you know, the 461 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: Clippers are a team that we don't really talk about 462 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: as much anymore given their uh you know, postseason collapse 463 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: in the bubble. But Katino with no fans um you know, 464 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: Paul George hurt again. I feel like the Clippers are 465 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: kind of getting lost in the discussion. We know the 466 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: Lakers are gonna be there. Everybody loves the Nets, Joel 467 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: Embiid might be the m v P, the Bucks. You know, 468 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of scuffling. Nobody's really talking about the Clippers. 469 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: This is a franchise you played for. They've always been 470 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: second class citizens in l A. Where are you on 471 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: Kauai and Paul George right now? Well, I mean the 472 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: reason why they're not talking about this because of the 473 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: last couple of years, right, So last year they thought 474 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: they were everyone thought they were gonna do something now 475 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: you uh, you know, and it was a disappointment. But 476 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: you have Tyler now and they're creeping up. So my 477 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: thing is for me as as as as good as 478 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: Paul George is and kaua litter is, I want all 479 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: that to jail. So at the end of this year, 480 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: It'll be more of a playoff thing that I'm worried about. 481 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: Right that Paul proves to these people who he is. 482 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: And uh, you know Kauai and Kauai uh you know 483 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: do his regular spills. But those last few games, Kauai 484 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: didn't come. I don't know if it was because the 485 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: fatigue or whatever. He didn't come alive. Now I'm not 486 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: gonna bet on him not coming alive or Paul George 487 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: not coming alive again, because they're doing pretty well at 488 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: the moment. But again, it takes time for those guys 489 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: to jail, and a lot of stuff is mental. So 490 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully, hopefully, UM it gets to the point 491 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: where towards the end of the season they build enough 492 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: Camaraders and they were served you Baca and all those 493 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: guys because they have a great team where they can 494 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: switch everything just like um, just like uh Golden State 495 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: had with iQue Dolla and Livingston and all those guys. 496 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: Before I need to wrap up, I need to ask 497 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: you about the Rhode Island rams. You know I'm a 498 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: college basketball nerd. I think I've grilled you about this 499 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: many times. You and Tyson Wheeler went on that run 500 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: and see a tournament's coming up. I feel like there's 501 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: nothing like it in sports. You know, It's just like 502 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: an orgy of games, and uh, it's just so fun. 503 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: I want to ask you what you remember most about 504 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: that Rhode Island run in whether it was taking down 505 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: Paul Pierce and number one seeded Kansas, uh, the Arthur 506 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: League game, which I'm sure you'll never forget, but I 507 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess give some perspective to the audience 508 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: on that. Um yeah, I mean, listen, it was a 509 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: great run for us. Jim Harrick made it fun that 510 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: whole year, myself, Tyson Wheeler, Uh, Antonio Reynolds, Dean Preston Murphy, 511 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: Josh King, Lutha Clay. You know, we had some really 512 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: good guys and we jelled together. Man. Um, you know it. 513 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: It was just a blur to me. I did I did? 514 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: I did your fam Um? I did? Uh? I did? Uh? 515 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: Run into uh Paul after that? And uh, you know, 516 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: I remember when I when we beat Kansas, the Roy 517 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: Williams Uh, it was was in the hallway and I 518 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: saw him in the hallway and we were excited. I 519 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: saw him in the hallway and he was crushed and 520 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: instead of me being excited, I was sad, you know. 521 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: And I remember Paul. If you see Paul, he's on 522 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: the court and he's been down and I go over 523 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: top and I kind of, you know, look at him 524 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: like damn. You know, I wouldn't want to be in 525 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: this physician, but I had to. We have to add 526 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: the fight. So you know, we beat about praise over 527 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: the next and then we play, um, we play uh 528 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: stay to play Stanford and uh, you know, we just 529 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: had a brain for in Stanford because we thought we 530 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: were going to uh, we thought we were going to 531 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: uh you know, the final four. So it was just 532 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: a brain fart. And from then on the Arthur Lead thing. 533 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: It killed me that uh you know, three threes in 534 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: a row and Tyson you know, and and the whole 535 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: the whole thing going on. Whatever, Uh do anybody at 536 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing? So I mean, listen, like I said before, 537 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: sometimes it's luck, man, It's luck, and you have to 538 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: have the luck on your side with everything else. I'm 539 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: also I mean, I forgot to ask. I'm also into 540 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: like recruiting stories, and you know you're from Philly and 541 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, how how did it go for you? 542 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: Did you have a million offers? Was Rhode Island early 543 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: on it? Jim Herrick did they come in early? Like, 544 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: how did you know? No? No, Jim Harrick came my 545 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: senior years, so yeah, he came our senior year. Al 546 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: Skinner was our coach prior to that. But um, I 547 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, I came. I went there first. Well, one 548 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: of my guys shown Colson and it didn't work out 549 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: for him, so he transferred. I stayed. So I mean 550 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: we had uh, I had other big school because I 551 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: was in m c I Prep school and we were 552 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: number one in the country that year, so we had nice, 553 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: you know offers everywhere. But my guy, Shaan Colson, who 554 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: I grew up with a North Philadelphia. He went to 555 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: Frankline learningson and played with fron Hand, played against Rishid 556 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: Wallace and then they beat them actually to win a 557 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: CHIP publicly championship. So Sean Colson was pretty good. So 558 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: we went up to m c I together and when 559 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: we did m c I I started, he came off 560 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 1: the bench. Jason Kimber was our starter because you know, 561 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: it was just a little more disciplined at the time. 562 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: We decided to go to rhodaland together and it worked 563 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: out for me and it didn't for him. So that's 564 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: how that that spio happened. Alright, well, great college career, 565 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: great NBA career. By the way, are you gonna be 566 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: doing any more Big three or no? Are you done 567 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: with that? Yeah? Yeah no, Big three starts. Uh. Big 568 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: three starts. Uh hopefully to start June. I think they 569 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: just sit out a thing where it's called the fireball now. 570 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: So uh yeah, sitting out yesterday, Vick three just sitting 571 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: out and you see Cube is talking about it. He's 572 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: not his monologue talking about the fireball. So yeah, so 573 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: hopefully it starts out. They had the draft. Do you 574 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: know who's on your squad yet or no? Uh, it's 575 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: myself from Royce White. Uh, big baby and uh we 576 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: got a couple of the guys that can't tell you 577 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: yet Big Baby. O. God him, you got to get 578 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: him back. Oh my gosh, stone co character like actually 579 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: acting character, he's a act. Yeah. Alright, Katito Mobile, Hey, 580 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for the time, man, keep up the 581 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: good working, stay healthy buddy. All right, thanks Jays, appreciate you.