WEBVTT - Assumptions w/ Nazneen Contractor 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.240 Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.040 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:09.079 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:10.520 These are our stories. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:31.160 Done done, Hello, and welcome to That's Messed Up an 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:32.480 SVU podcast. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.320 I'm Kara Klank, one of your hosts, and. 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.440 I'm Li'sa Traeger the other one, and we're coming to 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:43.080 you talk at SVU True Crime celeb Guests. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.680 We really do it all so thrill a thrill, a threat. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:51.600 And we literally just record episodes last week or something. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.640 And the minute I got off the I got onto 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.120 my phone it was like, Mauritia Cargeta is hosting the Emmys. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.400 I was like, I cannot believe we didn't talk about this. 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.880 Like truly the year of murschgaud. 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.160 I mean, you have been manifesting, specifically her hosting SNL 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.240 and I've obviously been along for the ride. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.640 It's happened. I feel like it's happening. Yeah, I think 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.440 it's happening. I think this is what all of this 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.880 is about, to be honest, Like, it's weird to say 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.760 that Broadway and hosting the eis is just a stepping 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:21.240 stone to hosting guests at hell. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:22.880 But I do believe that it is. 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:27.200 The when she's literally been one of the heavy hitters 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:31.240 of the network that SNL is on for twenty seven years, 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.200 it's like insane that she hasn't hosted it. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:37.160 I wonder if is like competitive, Yeah, like, oh, you 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:41.560 think you're the star of the network, right, Like, I 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.640 wonder if he's just being a weirdo, Like we forget everyone. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.720 It's just a weirdo in this business. I do forget that. 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:48.720 I do. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.480 Everyone is an absolute stone cold weirdo at all times. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.120 Wait, okay, so I've had this on my to do 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.560 list for weeks and I keep forgetting to bring it up, 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.080 and then it showed up in my feet again and 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.840 I sent it to Casey. So you know the show 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.600 What We Do in the Shadows. Yeah, okay, So there's 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.320 like the emotional vampire, like he sucks the energy out 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:11.680 of people. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:12.160 Call it round. 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.160 Yes, So I haven't like double checked this, but there's 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.280 like there's a scene in the show where he's like 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.440 describing the events of how this all started or whatnot, 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:28.080 And it totally coincides with Kevin Spacey's journal entries from 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.760 seven talking about a boring loser he met on the 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:39.360 train that led him to murder. It's like this incredible crossover. 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:43.320 Some podcast was talking about it and they have it's 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.080 all lined up where it's like Colin is talking about 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.239 this guy he met on the train and it coincides 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:52.520 perfectly with the Seven Murderers, like journal of like I 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.720 met this fucking guy on the train and he wouldn't stop, 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:56.720 and this and that. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.240 Yeah, there's like there's a whole reddit. Yeah, I've an 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:04.840 easter egg in what we're doing. Yeah, that's amazing because 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.959 I love seven, like I'm a seven head. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:10.200 Well, you know what, I've realized. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.639 I'm so Gone Girls new on Netflix, and I think 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.720 I've watched it since it came out last week, like 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.800 eight or nine times. I've been going to sleep to 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.320 Gone Girl, except there's one part where there's an alarm, 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.760 so I have to like it fucks me up, but 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.120 like it's just been in the background. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.320 I didn't realize I love Gong Girl. 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.880 I think I'm a David Fincher fanatic, even though he 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.880 makes everyone do eighty takes the time, but I really 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.120 think I am No. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.080 He's great, one of the best. He really, I just 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.280 don't like Panic Room. But I'm besides that, you know, 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.160 I really like a lot of his other movie. 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.360 I like Panic Room too. Yeah, I think I'm like 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.920 a fan. I didn't like Zodiac. I guess that's I 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.080 like Zodiac. I've watched that on the plane sometimes just 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.480 to chill. I already know because I've only watched it 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.680 once and it was on a plate. It was just like, 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.440 it's just so of the time where I'm like, we 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.520 like throw it a black person or in Asia like 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.440 a woman, Like it is crazy to have forty five 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.240 white men in a movie, Like it really is wild. 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.600 Because right now with The Odyssey, people are like, wow, 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.520 why are there no green? And I'm like, I don't know, 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.800 just a movie with all white people looks weird. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.280 It just looks weird. Get over it. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.520 Not only that, but I get very confused when I 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.720 watch shows that are shows or movies that are like 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.760 too white heavy. I cannot tell everybody apart like I'm 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.159 really like, which man is that? Like Game of Thrones 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.280 was really tough for me at the beginning, Like I 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.320 would be like, Jared, isn't that that man? He'd be 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:30.200 like no, I'd be like it's another man around six 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:31.760 sixty eight years old with a beard. 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:33.360 How did you like? What? 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:33.640 Like? 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:35.160 It was just very. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.320 Yeah, it's just like yeah, visually it's just like it's 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.000 hard to look at. But I would do it. Not 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.640 the murders, of course, the murderers. I was fined with 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:48.599 easy Breezy. But I do love an Easter egg, and 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.120 I thought that one was so good. So shout out 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:51.719 to the guys. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.279 Yeah, and if you guys you can, you can definitely 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:01.520 just search Colin Robinson seven journal entries and you get 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.400 a lot of information on the internet about this. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:10.840 Did Colin Robinson cause seven? Or I love it? I 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:12.240 love it so much. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:12.880 Oh. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.920 I started a new book for all my book heads. 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.200 I'm almost done with it. That's why I'm bringing it up. 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.200 So my next I'll probably finish it today. But it's 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.440 called I Who Have Never Known Men? Oh, I've heard 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.919 of that book. Who's their author? So her name is 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.200 Jacqueline Hartman. She was born in Belgium in nineteen twenty 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.400 nine and then escaped for the World War Two. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.080 For the World War two, and. 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.960 It was translated by someone named Roz Schwartz in nineteen 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.520 ninety five. For this edition, and it was you know, 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.160 I went to Barnes and Noble to look at well, 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:47.640 I went to the Strandford whatever. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:48.679 Our friend has a book. 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.479 I'm a lot and I wanted even though I have 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:54.279 the Amazon copy, the copy from the party, the pre copy, 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.680 I did go buy another copy at the store because. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.520 It was cool to see it. At the store. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.200 I was on a table. It was so exciting. So 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.840 of course I picked up Sir c the Song of 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.760 Achilles author. I picked up you know, I just picked 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.080 up some some fun, but I bought this was on 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:12.080 like the hip table. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.840 Like the people that work with the strand picked it. 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.120 And then the barist says at my coffee shop, both 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.440 of them were like, we love that book. 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.440 So yeah, I have never known men. I love it. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.839 I mean, I'm probably gonna finish it. It took me less 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.880 than a week, so I yeah, I love it. 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:29.480 I love it. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.040 Damn, you're like blowing through books. This is crazy. 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.000 Yeah, I really like this one. We'll see what I 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.720 start next. Obviously I'm still reading Michelle McNamara's book. But also, 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.840 I mean, it was a person with just numbers in 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:43.680 their thing, and it's not real, and I doubt it's 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.320 a true listener. But it's just like they're like, if 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.520 you don't care about the environment, I can no longer 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.599 be a fan about you. You don't care about polar 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.600 bears in the future of our children, And it's like 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:56.680 grow up, Like people are so dense, like I truly 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.719 if I don't have chill, try but I don't have 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.159 chill and I don't drive a car, so fuck you. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.000 I do more for the environment than most people on 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.240 this planet, thank you very much. 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.840 But you are referring to you saying that you don't 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.920 care that Taylor flies private, and I don't think one 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.880 person flying private is destroying the environment. And I do 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:23.040 think that the inconvenience and like mayhem that would happen 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.520 if she walked up to a delta flight is just 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.240 like not feasible. It's so I'm not saying like, I 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.680 don't think either of us is saying fuck the environment. 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:32.040 I think we're saying, oh no. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:33.760 I mean I saw a video online where it's like 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.640 you could tell how smart or stupid someone is by 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.640 like talking about averages or like nu wats, where it's like, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.440 well the average is this, and then someone goes, well, 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.560 I have this story and it's like, well, then you're 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:45.600 not the average. 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.760 Yeah, Like then that's anecdotal. 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.760 Yeah yeah, but that's what it felt like where it's like, no, 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.040 her flying private did not upset me. But I've gotten 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.560 some dms that it's a different guy. It's not the 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.880 guy I don't have to sell my cardigans. But we'll see. 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.680 I haven't listened to her since it's been upsetting. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.440 I've heard some people say that they're trying to say 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.240 it's not like that guy doesn't work there anymore, but 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.600 he does or whatever. I'm kind of trying to be 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:12.560 out of the day. 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.840 I forget because I also just did a really popular 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:16.560 podcast that talks about it, and I'm like, oh, I'm 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.240 about to get fucking demolished. I'm gonna get demolished by 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:21.640 these swifties. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:22.880 But what are you gonna do? 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.720 Well? Some of the some of the comments that we're getting, 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:31.320 at least on the Spotify are behind you on uh oh. 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.280 I'm sure a lot of people are really throw I 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:34.880 actually haven't told Sydney yet. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:39.440 She's going to be really happy. What a gift. Let's 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.360 give sit a gift. But I am still going to 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:42.960 a soul cycle this Saturday. I'm sorry. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.400 I had one class left and I could go today 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.240 because I'm sick. Okay, guys, I'm trying my mess. She's 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.079 showing up for you. She's here, she's sick. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.800 She's having meds flown in from Bali on a private 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:59.920 jet that only takes extremely Yeah, the kid. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.640 It's just like this message just really kind of cracked 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.560 me up, where I'm like, is this who's listening to? 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.440 Yeah podcast? Like it can't be Yeah, I saw it too. 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:09.360 Oh you got it too. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:14.680 To slow sent to the main future generations? Are you 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.679 really that cold and shallow and selfish? It's like, sure, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.240 but not that has nothing to do with this. So 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.319 short sighted. It's like you're out of your mind if 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.960 that's what you took from this. Just also, yeah, we 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:33.520 don't hate the environment. We have been not environment haters. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.160 This is episode what are We? 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:35.720 What do We? 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:36.560 What's today? 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.160 Episode two hundred and ninety four, Like, come on, yeah, 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.840 there's a nice sample size of what we feel about 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:43.600 the earth. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.280 I recycle religiously. 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.760 I'm actually my parents saying with my parents right now, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.400 and it's kind of hard to watch how little they recycle, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:51.760 But I'm doing my best. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.400 You know, well, I just don't have anything in the 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.920 home to recycle or not recycle, like I don't. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.840 I'm not what am I bringing in here. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.320 Like poppy cans and stuff like that, or you're cycling 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.679 or no. Yeah, but we have a guy downstairs who 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.680 does it. I bring it downstairs. You do with the stuff. 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.600 Honestly, the people that live in cities like New York 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.560 like that are mostly walking cities have like some of 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:19.480 the smallest carbon footprints. So it's like, not personally about you. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:23.040 I think that people want you to denounce her jet flying. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.160 And that'll never happen. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.960 Because there's I would say, hundreds, if not thousands of 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.760 men that do it more than her, and I refuse. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:40.240 Oh okay, there is some heated rivalry news well, and 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.640 I wouldn't even want to bring this up, and I 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.240 was avoiding it, but then his. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.240 Outfit was so fucking cute. I had to watch the 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:46.920 video and I. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:51.920 Like, Okay, So Hudson Williams is in Paris and he 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.000 is so nice to fans and he has a new 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.559 hot bodyguard. The bodyguard post said, like so happy to 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:02.680 be working with Hudson. But anyways, so he was being 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.120 how you know, and his team is all girls, and 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.160 like his girlfriend was there as friends, and it was 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.840 just like a big group of girls in him and 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.760 he like flipped out on these guys who are autograph hounds, 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.160 and he just was like, stop fucking following me. You 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.719 guys are crazy, leave me alone. You're not fans, like 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.720 you cannot be following me to my residence. And then 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.040 he grabbed the photos of him and tried lighting it 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.680 with a lighter, and so then his girlfriend's like, come on, 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.000 let's go. So then they start walking and they're like 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.280 walking to their residence and the guys still follow them. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:33.920 So the guys are going sorry, sorry, sorry, but then 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.400 following them, and so he starts and then his girlfriend 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.240 like hands back the photos to this guy and goes, 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.280 can you just please go away? Like go away, and 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.559 Hudson comes back and goes get the fuck out of here, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.600 like stop following me, and the guy goes stop using 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:51.719 bad words. That's not okay, which is one of my 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.040 pet peeves. I hate one people. Oh my god, I 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.720 hate that so much. And also Hudson does no mma 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.320 and it's like I do wish he beat the shit 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.000 out of these people. But they finally leave, they're like 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.720 laughing at him, and it's just like everyone's on Hudson's 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.920 side where it's like fuck you, you autograph hounds. You would 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.520 never do that to like a fan. He's like so 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.800 nice to everybody. But then I wouldn't have even brought 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.160 it up on the pod because I don't want to 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:15.040 bring attention to it. 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:16.040 But then I saw a great point. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.520 I'm wearing my Shane Hollander sweatshirt, okay in solidarity. I'm 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.000 like it's eighty degrees. I'm so hot. But it was 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.160 just like how we're so behind him but so mad 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.120 at Chapel Roone and like Chapel needs to be nice 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:31.680 and shut up Chapel, you should be lucky that you're famous. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.400 We made you famous. And it is like, but I. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.280 Said this even at the Oscars, like the boys are 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.920 having so much fun or the mad e fan and 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.960 it's like they don't let they don't let like women 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.559 would even be able to have fund the way these 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.480 guys are having like fun or be mad, like women 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:51.400 cannot do anything right. But it did bring up like, yeah, 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.120 like how are we so like yeah, Hudson, get him, 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.400 but everyone's like Chapel Roone, You're not grateful enough. You're 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.720 new to fame, so stop Just something that I you know, 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.160 saw just on the internet scrolling that I you know, 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:05.079 I'm bringing up. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.520 Yeah, just like we really have to just stop policing 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:11.160 the way women behave publicly and at all, Like that 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.760 goes for Olivia Rodrigue's baby doll dress, that goes for 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.400 Chapel Roone not wanting to be bothered during breakfast. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:20.160 Just enough, And that story was fake, that soccer player 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.079 fake have that woman and then soccer player to be 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.040 like that never happened, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.280 they fully lied, but there's just video of her being like, 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.600 please leave me alone, stop following me, and everyone's like, oh, 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.440 you want to be famous or not. Boy George got involved. 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:36.680 It was like that boy George, Boy George. Yeah, boy 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.000 George got involved and was like you're a little brat. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.000 You should enjoy the fame while you have it. And 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.560 it's just like okay, but we're like Hudson burn that paper. 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:49.240 It's just like I don't know, yeah, boy George, I 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:52.800 don't know. But also they're saying that Holland, the player 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.320 from Norway, is the closest we'll ever get to an 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.760 Ilia Rosenoff vibe like they have just wait, who oh 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.480 that guy? Yeah, Like he just says the same kind 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.280 of eder. I mean, I think he's a little more 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:05.960 helpful than the fake character Ilio. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.000 Well, but doesn'tbody also seem like kind of a goof 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.839 whereas like Rosanov's always like, ugh, you know, maybe you 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:12.480 should watch it one more time, because I don't think 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:13.320 you would say that, Kara. 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:14.360 He's like very funny. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.600 He's very funny behind the scenes, but like not when 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:19.280 he's like playing right. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.360 When he's like when he's winking, going liar liar told 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:23.440 you that, Like what are you talking? 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.000 Yeah, he's like silly as well. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.000 But I just feel like I see this Norway guy 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.840 mugging with like his chin out and like making like 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.240 crazy goofy faces, and like, I don't I don't remember 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.920 that I think from my one time viewing of Heated Rivalry, 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.000 but I could stand corrected, as I've only watched it 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:38.320 one time. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.600 It all came through because he's It's Holland getting off 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.080 a plane and he's holding a taxi dermid raccoon holding 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.600 a bottle of liquor that was a souvenir and it's 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.280 just like the flash sheet is the Birkins being nice 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.200 to his girlfriend like there is just hard work. 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.800 And like silliness, but Ilia. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.240 Is silly, like they play hard but they are it's 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.760 really silly and like enjoying the call like we're like 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.160 I think Ilia would get cowboy. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.720 Boots and be excited to have brisket, you know what 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:07.120 I mean? 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.760 No the house have they got to enjoy some food 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.160 after they all eventually lose. 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.400 I know everything every day I have cheered for has 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.480 lost every team, So I need to start cheering for Argentina. 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.520 Well today's Spain France, right, yeah I don't. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.760 I want Spain for the little Brother, but I want 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.720 France from Bape. But I because someone was like you 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.240 could like how evil could Argentina be that we're all 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.600 cheering for England you know what I mean, like we 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:36.480 want England to win? 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:36.720 Now? 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.960 Oh really I was kind of going for Argentina when 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.240 they were playing a game. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.240 No are they bad? 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.640 Well just like the Nazi of it all and kicking 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.920 black people out and like all other Latino countries hate them, 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:54.040 so like I'm with them, but also like it's just rigged, 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.240 like the calls like they're just letting. They're just want 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.800 Argentina in the end, and it's like I feel like 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:03.360 I'm I'm going for Spain overall because a little brother underdog, 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:08.320 but also France has won like three times. Right, Oh, 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.360 I have no idea, I just like a bop it. No, 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.760 I want Spain because the little brother and the McDonald's 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.360 cup I have is the eighteen year old player from Spain. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.360 So whatever McDonald's cup I got, that's who I'm cheering for. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.720 That's it, that's it. Love it. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.000 No, I don't know, but I watched with my dad 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:28.680 this weekend and every team I root for loses, so 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.760 I have so that's why I'm thinking I root for 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.400 Argentina and that'll bring them their devise. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:35.480 Okay, let's do it. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.440 My brother like was just like kind of going for 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.800 Argentina because he likes messy of course, like it's his 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:41.480 last one. 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.400 But England, their main player is a hardcore trumberd not 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.920 even but he can't even vote here, so I don't know. 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.040 Andie Caine just has like a smug face. I don't know. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.040 I hated England, but I guess my one of my 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.120 closest friends lives there and they've been sending me. Her 0:16:56.160 --> 0:17:01.080 boyfriend's been sending me taunting messages. Yes, because I keep 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.280 cheering for every team that plays England and then they 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:04.600 keep on fucking losing. 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:10.320 It's like devastating. Oh my gosh. Uh oh all. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:15.040 Right, So my niece, my nephew and his girlfriend introduced. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:16.000 They're like so funny. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.600 I took them to Target and like I always I 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.159 never know who buys the weird flavors of stuff, and 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.240 then I beat it's them. They're buying the cinnamon bud 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:31.360 flavored oreos, They're buying the oreos mixed with Recei's protein bars, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.040 Like they are buying the craziest flavors of things, where 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.719 I'm like, you are supporting food scientists in a way 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:38.600 I've never seen. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.240 I'm like, truly, these are the craziest flavors. 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.359 But they showed me a candy brand called joy Ride, okay, 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.000 and it's like seventy percent less sugar than normal candy, 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:55.520 but like eight to twelve grams of fiber per serving. WHOA, 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.280 So I you know, I'm trying to up my fiber 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:00.760 because that's the thing I want to be ahead of 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.600 the trend because I can't count protein. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.080 You need too much of it. I don't want to, 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:05.439 but I can't do fiber. 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.879 And this candy it's like so good joy Ride, and 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.000 I wonder, like, I don't like that because that mean 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.040 like you're gonna like your bowels will be you know, 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:14.840 like flowing through Like I don't get it. 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.560 Yeah, but yeah, on top of the on top of 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.240 whatever parasites all over the produce right now. But that's 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:20.800 for another time. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.159 I bought a thing of raspberries for the fiber that 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.040 I found out about, you know the thing. But yeah, 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.919 these joy Ride candies have so much fiber in them, 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:29.960 and I've. 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.359 They do sour worms. They've got a lot of gummies. 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.520 So I wonder if any of you are eating them, 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:39.360 let me know. But I'm pretty involved. I'm involved. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.280 I'm on the website. They're at Sprouts, they're at ARII, 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.960 they're all over nice. 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:48.800 Oh my god, that's that's so okay. 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.000 And then there's a clip of a podcast I saw 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.320 but it's not what I listened to, but the clips 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.200 come up for me and their listeners did a thing 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:00.600 where it's like, what are the five things are worth 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:07.360 the buddy? Yes, so what have them said her base said, 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.760 Peer said hair brush like you know the Patreon maybe, 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.679 or like what is worth the buddy spending? 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.720 Yeah, and I've been seeing those, and I've been also 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.639 seeing what are like five awesome dupes like that you 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.240 can get just as easily for like half as much 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:25.880 and it's just as good. 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.760 Fake bag. I love it. Yeah, look at it. Look 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:30.120 at it. 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.359 I mean like I'm wearying right now, like Lululemon legging 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.960 dupes from some random company that I found on that and. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:37.400 I love them. 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.160 Like would you look at me and be like, well 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:40.560 what what? 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.320 A set out on her way to course, she has 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:44.679 a case get out of the way. 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:46.840 I was really rooting the mood. My nephew's like, you 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:48.719 need to stop. He's like, how do you have friends? 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.440 I like, keep bringing up murder? Well, she said something 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.560 and I go, well, the elderly are the most vulnerable 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:55.800 to murder, and he goes, can you not say that 0:19:55.840 --> 0:20:01.000 in front of baba. It's like oh yeah, And then 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.159 he said something about like you know, girls can be 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.640 so mean and mean girls We're like talking about camp 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.280 and I go, oh, our girls mean? Or men raping 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.960 and murdering women and He's like, Okay, I'm sorry. I 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.359 was just talking about the cabins, but yeah, I was 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:17.439 wondering what is worth the. 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:19.919 Money, Like I don't know, I don't know. 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.720 I think going out to eat, like restaurants with friends, 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:25.679 like that's where that's worth it to be. 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.239 Yeah, that's that's I would say one of the main 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:34.400 things I spend my money on. Oh wait, speaking of money, why, 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.960 I guess Iced Tea just announced, Yeah, he's gonna be 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.120 on the whole season next year, and like Rollins will 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:42.800 be back too, So I guess they found the money. 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:43.680 Oh my god, dude. 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.040 Okay, So I was sitting with a bunch of comedians 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:51.680 at the cellar and we're for some reason, the Jelly 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:56.280 roll that musician came up and we were like braid storming, 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.479 like what you could sext to him or something like 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.080 just like people were just shatting and they're like what 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.520 other people have like dessert names or something like that, 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:09.920 and someone said iced Tea and I whipped my head 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:13.960 so fast. I got so aggressive and wet. That is 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:18.120 a married man. And everyone's like, we're all just kidding here, 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:25.040 but I ah, like I it was just instinctual, like 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.760 I flipped out, and then I was like, oh my bad. 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:28.040 Guys. 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.159 Sorry, but I just like really believe in their marriage, 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:31.480 and I don't think you would step out. 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:32.760 I know. 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:34.800 I got a cue clip of them today that was like, 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:37.679 really somebody sent to us that was like what it 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:39.960 was like, it's a girl stitching it and at the beginning. 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:40.680 It's like, what's your type? 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.280 And then it's it's iced Tea telling Coco you're insane, 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.080 but you're like a good insane, like you're not criminally insane. 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.680 That's why I love you, because like you are just 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.200 insane in like a goofy way. 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:55.640 Like her face is like, okay, wait, but what else 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:59.480 is worth somebody? I don't oh professional fray big, I 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:03.680 think that's worth somebody. I think having someone clean your 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.600 house is worth the money. Yes, personally, that goes number 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:07.760 one cleaner. 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:10.040 Like I just like, you know, I like to keep 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:11.679 a clean home, but I do not like to do 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.120 a scrub or like a deep clean, and I need. 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.680 Someone professional for that. I like to I talk about 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:17.120 that a lot. 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:21.200 Yeah, I think professional cleaning is good. Even though my girl, 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:25.280 you know, she drives you crazy. Her choices are so confusing. 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:28.960 I'm like why would you up my gummy vitamins in 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:32.320 the bathroom, like I eat the in the Like She'll 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:34.200 just do the craziest things I've ever seen. 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:36.879 I'm always just like put everything back where it was, 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:38.880 Like I mean, well she eating it, but like leave 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:39.840 it essentially where it was. 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:41.040 She doesn't have that option in my. 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.520 Home, oh, because everything's everywhere. 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.639 Or yeah, yeah, she has a tougher job, but she 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:47.800 still drives you crazy. 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:52.040 Maybe she thinks you get up, you'll like you brush, 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.720 you take a gummy vitamin. I don't know my vitamins are. Yeah, 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.399 they're on my bedside table. Actually, wait, what else is 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.520 worth it? Because I know I spent my body not to. 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:02.320 Stop, but I feel like I spend on lots of 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.520 little things, Like I don't really like spend hard. 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.480 You don't do major big purchases. 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.400 I think a lot of people would say, like spending 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:12.000 more on like skincare, you know what I mean, like 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:15.000 some like some super expensive like lotion or whatever, is 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.280 like worth it for like longevity and age and blah 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:18.640 blah blah. 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.280 I would say a blowout. 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:25.240 I would say house cleaner blowout, Yeah, Cause I don't 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.960 think first class is always worth it. But I think 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.119 it's worth it to be loyal to an airline and 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:31.320 spend a little bit more. 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.840 Yeah, I'm certain auditions. 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:36.800 For the overall perks and upgrades, but like I don't 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.800 think I don't know if it's always worth spending over 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:41.959 one thousand, two thousand dollars out of first class. 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:43.640 See yeah, no, I would never. 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:47.919 Yeah that's not for me. And also I you know, 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:49.920 I blow my hair out myself, so blowouts aren't even 0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:51.600 wouldn't be on my list. But I do think that 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:52.480 they're great. 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.320 The only thing we agree on is house cleaner and 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.080 that I'm really going out to. 0:23:57.080 --> 0:24:00.200 Eat and going out to eat. And I would say, 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:03.520 I would say I'm getting to a point where like 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:09.000 hotels like I can't I really can't stay like I've 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.840 just now on this trip, stayed it like a one 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:14.840 or two because it was like the only thing available, 0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:19.800 like really not good hotels, and it just makes my 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:23.440 allergies go crazy, Like I'm uncomfortable, I can't sleep. It's 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:24.760 just not worth it for me. It's like worth it 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:26.240 to me to spend a little bit more money. And 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.239 I'm not talking about like a five star, but like 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:31.200 something that's like you know, more established. 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.720 I agree, and I would say my tiffity is jewelry. 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.320 I love it is worth the money brings you to it, 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:38.399 sparks joy you know. 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:41.440 Yeah, let us know what's worth it to you, guys. Yeah, 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.720 let us know what you what's worth the money. 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:45.920 And also if you're if you're in the mood, let 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.080 us know something you've bought, like for half price of 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.520 what the original of, what the major name is, because 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:55.120 I love, I love a deal. Wait before we stop, 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.840 you saw this as r B and the arts always 0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:02.480 support the arts, Yes, it's always worth Someone was like 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:04.840 it was, oh, did you spend money to go to 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.320 that museum? But I go that I've never regretted a 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.200 dollar I've spent in the museum ever ever. 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.800 Yeah yeah yeah, or a play or some of the arts. 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:21.080 So cleaning the arts, blowouts, restaurants, restaurants, hotels, hotels, that's 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:21.520 my five. 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:27.000 Okay, Wait, did you see that Gena Davis is going 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:30.240 to play the serial killer Dorothea Puente in an HBO 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:32.800 series that you covered a few weeks ago. 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:34.720 Yeah yeah, yeah, Oh. 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:39.600 Because then, because I'm so excited about Geena Davis's like recurrent, 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:41.959 like coming back, I brought her up at the family 0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:44.640 because they're like, ugh, you know, everyone kills the elderly. 0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.320 I go, well, some elderly women are ahead of the game, 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:50.400 and I brought her up. My nephew's like, shut the 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:54.000 fuck up. I know, I know, it's it's upsetting. Go 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:55.919 Geena Davis. I haven't seen her in a while. 0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:01.320 Well, she was in that movie Blink Twice that I liked. 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.720 That was wild the Cravits directed with Channing Tatum, and 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:06.360 she had a part in that, and I was kind 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.359 of like, where's Gena Davis been? Like, I just didn't know. 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.280 I kind of heard she was like doing archery. But 0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.360 I've like always loved pretty much everything Geina Davis has done, 0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.600 so I'm really excited that she's kind of bash it's 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:22.200 a hero, yeah, and she's gonna be a serial killer 0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:26.680 who kills borders in her boarding house. Let's obviously we 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.439 have fun stuff going on over at the Patreon if 0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.480 you haven't given it a shot, get on over there, 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.760 and a lot of extra fun stuff going on, and 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.720 you can go to That's Messed Up Live if you 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.560 want to go to Lisa's road schedule. But oh my god, 0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:45.240 your little ad for Peetown is so cute. Oh good good, 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:46.560 she's gonna be in p Town. 0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.640 I haven't been posting clips, I haven't been doing anything. 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.280 I've just spit out at about and it's like I 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.760 don't know. The BADATA was like fuck the algorithm, but 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:56.240 I go, yeah, fuck the algorithm. 0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.159 What are we gonna do? Yeah? 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Yeah, season twenty, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:45.800 So two young dudes come running out of a religious building. 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.080 I can't really tell what it is at first, and 0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:49.919 one is like, let's go, let's go, and the other 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.040 one is like, they're going to find out, but they 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.880 run off into the night a random woman. We find 0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:57.800 out later on the they're on the Upper West Side, 0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:01.240 and this really tracks goes you, oh boys, I saw 0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.399 you come out of the synagogue. What were you doing? 0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:07.840 I'm calling the cops. I mean, she's perfect. She's she's 0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.320 got like a cart. She's a cart lady. She's one 0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.320 of those ladies that pushes their groceries in a cart, 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:13.159 their laundry, you know. 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:14.800 They get around New York with the carts. 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.120 And then they knock her ass over and her cart 0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.440 and they flee. So now we cut to Benson's cozy 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.600 little apartment where she is watching a news report about 0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:28.600 Rob Miller aka Bosh aka Titus Well of her. He 0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.480 is the if we haven't covered this episode yet, but 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.399 he's a famous lawyer who rapes Niki Stains, who's another 0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:39.200 lawyer from several sv episodes in the episode Blackout, and 0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.800 he's like this really powerful guy and very ominous. Richard 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:47.520 Kind is playing his lawyer and he's they're telling the 0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:51.160 press they want his charges dismissed, and Benson quietly goes 0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.720 son of a bitch to herself, and then Noah immediately 0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.080 starts whining for her attention, and he's like, are. 0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:56.760 You mad at me? 0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:58.960 And she goes, no, I'm mad, but I'm not mad 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:00.640 at you, Like I'm not, it's not the reason. But 0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:02.480 he's like, you're mad, right, and it's like, you know 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:03.960 what she does for a living, right, Like at this 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:05.880 point you're at least ten, you've got to know that 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.800 her days are not great. So she tells him, yeah, 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:10.760 I'm mad, but not at you. And then he's like, 0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.560 how do you spell believe? As in believe women ben 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.160 some superpower, and she's helping him spell it, sound it out, 0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.240 and she's sitting with him and she's helping him, but 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:21.479 her eyes are wandering back over to this news coverage, 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.560 which is long they are the camera's on him for 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:27.960 a long time on the news. And then at the synagogue, 0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.680 the lady that the kids decked is describing the boys 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.720 to the cops and she says, well, one was wearing 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.800 one of those red Maga hats. And the cops like 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.520 seem skeptical. They're like, so did you actually see them? 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.960 Do anything or and the lady's like they were running, 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:45.920 and I mean, I gotta give it to the like 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.480 the cops, Like the cops don't have anything to go on. 0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.880 But two teens booking it at night is never a 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.920 good sign. And she mentions that as they passed her, 0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:58.000 one of them called her a slur for Jewish people, 0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:02.520 and she mentions that temple was vandalized. Last week's swastikas 0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.360 were spray painted everywhere. So they start searching the dark 0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:09.560 synagogue and a female cop is basically calling in it 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.520 and as nothing. She's like false alarm or something like that. 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.880 When she starts finding articles of clothing and eventually, very 0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:20.360 quickly after a woman unconscious, lying on the floor, blood 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.000 on her head, and she's going, please stop, please stop. 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:27.440 The woman so she's conscious, but she's like barely making sense, 0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:29.400 you know, she's in and out of consciousness, I would say. 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.360 So when Carisi and Rowins get there, they're getting the 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.160 info it's a sexual assault, possibly a hate crime. Her 0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.680 hitjob was torn off. Karsi's confused why a Muslim woman 0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.240 would be raped in a synagogue, and it's like, how 0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.280 do you not know yet that any old wild thing 0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:44.320 can happen in New York City? 0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:45.760 Like, how long have you been on the squad? Now 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:46.600 it's season twenty. 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.760 The victim's name is Nala Nassar's and they're like the 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.840 city councilwoman and Rollin's and Carisi discussed how this council 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.600 woman has been on the news a lot lately for 0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.720 making anti Semitic comments, so why would she be in 0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.840 a And the victim gets rolled out on a stretcher. 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.120 They ask her what happened, and she goes, I was 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.920 set up by quote unquote those people. And like, I 0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:11.480 think literally never once been used in a good way 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.040 like those people. No one's ever said those people really 0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.960 came through for me when I was sick. Those people really, 0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.680 you know, like it's just not really a really a 0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.600 great way to ever refer to anyone. So outside a 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.280 hospital the next morning, Benson meets up with Daddy Dodds 0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:31.640 aka Eyebrows, and she's just like and he goes, she 0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.000 was set up by Jews, and the way he says 0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.440 it is really funny. I just it's just funny, like 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.880 and and it's like Benson hasn't even had coffee yet, 0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:41.640 and he's like, she was set up by Jews, like 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:46.239 there's not even proof, and the press is hounding them 0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.000 for answers, saying the victim is a note at anti Semite, 0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.480 and dodd says the NYPD does not control bigotry or 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.280 hate motivated violence of any kind, blah blah blah. Once 0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.880 they're inside, Dodds is like, oh, I haven't even had 0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:58.560 the chance to talk to you about Rob Miller. You 0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:00.760 heard he's out on bail, like kind of like trying 0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:02.600 to goss with her. Benson's like, yeah, I would have 0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:04.520 loved a heads up about that, and Dodds is like, 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:06.719 I found out on the news too, man, Like they 0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:07.600 don't tell me anything. 0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:11.320 So Rollin's and Careesi filled out those two. In Miss 0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.560 Nastar is being treated for a concussion. They're doing a 0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.800 rape kit. Still no leads on why she was in 0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.400 the temple, but her chief of staff, Aida galanis just 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:18.840 to ride. 0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:22.560 Maybe she'll have some answers. Dodds wants them to tell 0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.960 her to shut the fuck up and not talk to 0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.680 the press. Basically, so Realissi is now talking to Aida, 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.600 who's played by Elise Hudson. She was in Spike Lee's 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.200 She's got to have it, and she's basically jogging through. 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:36.480 The hospital while talking to them. 0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.760 It's quite a brisk walk and talk, and she's telling 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:42.880 them Nalla is passionate, she's criticizing Israel. She's not anti Semitic, 0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.960 So why was she at this temple? And AIDA's like, honestly, 0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.680 I don't know. She can actually be very private and 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:53.960 I respect her boundaries. She received any threats and they're like, yeah, 0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:56.719 I mean our office is basically a protest headquarters. Are 0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.120 you kidding? Like her phone is ringing off the hook 0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:02.000 with hate calls, so yeah, the answer is yes, and 0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.000 Rollins is like sure, sure, sure, Like but anything outside 0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:08.600 of like the standard hate stuff, like anything sexual, anything specific. 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.719 And Ada's like, yeah, no one said they were going 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.600 to rape her. And they're like, okay, well we need phone, 0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:18.160 email and social media records blah blah blah. And she goes, 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:22.080 hope you need the overtime, and like, in terms of 0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.280 all these threats, there's so many threats, so and she goes, 0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.520 I'm sick of what happened out there. But the upside 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:30.840 is that everyone is going to realize that she's the 0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:34.640 real victim here. So now we've seen Alla walking back 0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.720 into her hospital room to find several NYPD detectives plus 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:42.040 eyebrows waiting for her. And this actress is named Nazanine Contractor. 0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.760 She's been at regular on like twenty four COVID Affairs 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.520 Jennifer Hospital. She's like guest art on almost every single 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:51.080 show you've ever heard of. And they tell her they're 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:54.160 sorry for what happened to her. She tells them, listen, 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.400 my parents are from Syria. I know what girls have 0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:59.120 endured in war zones. I'm not gonna feel sorry for myself. 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.160 And Benson is like, Okay, that's all well and good, 0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.400 but you have been traumatized and we're here to help you. 0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.440 And she's like, well, then catch his ass. And she's 0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.840 telling them that she was alone in the sanctuary. She 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.800 was looking in at the Torres scrolls in the cabinet. 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.200 It felt like a place of reverence, a place of godliness, 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:16.920 and then she was hit on the back of the 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.560 head violently. She fell to the ground. She started to 0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.880 cry and says he pinned her down. He was rough, 0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.560 He tore off her job, pulled up her skirt and 0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:29.319 forced himself on her, and he didn't say anything. She 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.759 didn't see his face. She doesn't know when he left. 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.799 She must have passed out. So why did you say 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:35.520 you were set up? 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:35.640 Like? 0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:36.439 Why were you there? 0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:38.719 And she said, I was lured there by a man 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.920 pretending to want peace. I was lied to by a Zionist. 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.799 So now they're in the Holocaust exhibit room at the 0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:49.040 synagogue where Ezra Zuckerman is telling them that some members 0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:53.080 of the congregation took issue with Misnassar, and he invited 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.400 her to come walk through this Holocaust exhibit so that 0:34:56.440 --> 0:35:00.840 if she could see the images and what represents like 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:02.759 she could see how hurtful her words were to the 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.359 Jewish community. And he's like, we were supposed to meet 0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.520 in front of the office at eight o'clock, but she 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.520 never showed up. He waited until eight twenty eight, twenty five, 0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.440 called her office a bunch of times, no answer, so 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:15.520 he went home. He's got things to do. And this 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.200 guy is actually an actor named Bob Ari and he 0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:22.520 was in the episode Cage aka the l Fanning episode 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.839 where and the final episode of Back where we finally 0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.920 get rid of her, and he played a trial a 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:32.479 child trafficker named Ignacious Petty, which is a wild name 0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.600 and is but now I see that face. 0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.400 Oh my god, Yes he looks fo okay. 0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.239 And he's also in the season twenty four episode called 0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.719 dead Ball, but I don't quite remember what that one 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.719 is off the top of my head. Zuckerman confirms the 0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.360 vandalism that the other woman told him about from weeks earlier, 0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:53.239 and Finn's like, well, was there anyone around that could 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.640 have seen anything? A maintenance crew, anything, And he's like yeah, 0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.480 he goes, well, the facility manager unlocked the room, and 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.800 there was also a youth group meeting that night. Uh oh, 0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:06.080 he goes, I saw two boys in the bathroom, and 0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:10.040 he's okay to totally give their asses up to the cops. 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.760 He said, he feels terrible for what happened to miss Nastar, 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.360 but she's also been saying horrid stuff about his community, 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.680 reinforcing stereotypes and tropes, and that's how things got started 0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:23.319 in Germany. The guy says, So, Finn and Cries are 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.080 buzzing a doorbell and also arguing. Finn is like, why 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:29.520 can't she say whatever she wants? And Carisy goes, sure, 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.320 that's first Amendment, but like, what if she was saying 0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.960 horrible shit about African Americans, and Finn goes, I don't 0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.040 bother listening to ignorant dumbasses. 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.080 So he's like, I guess. He's like, it wouldn't really 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:40.360 bother me. 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.400 I don't listen to stupid people, and Cariese's like, well 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:44.040 that's you, Finn. 0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:45.160 The world doesn't work like that. 0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.759 Words have consequences, and wow, Carisi has the audacity to 0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.640 be explaining to Finn Tutuola how the world does and 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:55.000 does not work is kind of wild. But Finn's like, 0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.400 so it's free speech until you piss somebody off, and 0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:03.520 then it's hate speech. Her conversation gets interrupted. Finally someone 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.279 answers this goddamn door. It's been a long time that 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.799 they've been having this conversation, and very accusatory. The guy goes, 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.000 can I help you? It's like do you want to 0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.560 see if they're like, I don't know from the power department, 0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:16.040 like chill out. And so they tell them that they're 0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.080 looking for Ari Kaplan and he goes, that's my son, 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:19.520 and they're like, can you go get him for us? 0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.800 Now Ari comes to the front door wearing a backwards 0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.719 red baseball cap. They ask if he was at the synagogue. 0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:27.680 The night before, and he goes, yeah, but we didn't 0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:30.759 touch her. I swear to God, and that's all they 0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.279 need to hear. You need to come with us right now, 0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:37.440 let's go. So they drag this kid. The two boys 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:41.960 are named Ari Kaplan and Michael Schwartz, caught on security cameras. 0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.399 They were there for a meeting about their birthright trip 0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:49.279 to Israel, which loll just making sure all the rules 0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.279 and rags of the birthright trip are being laid out 0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.239 in advance. And then it turns out that the red 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:56.760 cap is not a Maga hat, it's a high school logo. 0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.320 And the lady that they shoved esther said she actually 0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.880 might have misunderstood the word mike, which one of the 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:08.840 boys is named Michael for the Jewish slur that she heard. So, okay, 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:12.400 some of these, you know, eyewitness account things are a 0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.040 little bit melting away now. So the boys say that 0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.520 they walked into the temple they saw her lying unconscious 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.799 on the floor when they walked in, they freaked out, 0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:23.960 thought they'd get blamed. Cariese is questioning this kid in 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.040 cement room bars and he's like, why would you Why 0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.080 would people blame you? And he goes because she's an 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:32.680 anti Semite, and the dad's like, listen, I don't love 0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.319 this woman, but my son did not rape her. 0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:36.880 He's a good boy. And then how many times have 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:37.319 we heard that? 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.600 And they're like, yeah, he's a good boy who left 0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.880 a victim of a crime bleeding on the temple floor. 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.200 Crisey's like, I don't know if God would have sided 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.680 with him on this one, and then Ari's ratcheting up 0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:49.359 his squeaky teen voice, being like. 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.440 What was she even doing there? It's like she was 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:52.480 deliberately trying. 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.200 To provoke us, and Caresee's like, well did it work? 0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.160 You seem angry. Her head was smashed, her hit job 0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.719 was torn off, and he says he says, you know, 0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.719 I didn't do that. And this actor's name is Ted Sutherland. 0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.960 He's also in Catfishing Teacher. There's like a lot of 0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:11.040 repeat people in this episode. Cariese says, Okay, well maybe 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:12.960 it was your buddy Michael, and if it was, you 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.200 better roll on him before he rolls on you. So 0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:17.920 now Finn is with whiney teen number two Michael Schwartz 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:21.640 with his mother giving him the same run around like 0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:23.600 why didn't you help her? Why didn't you do anything? 0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.800 And the mother shows her true colors pretty quickly, referring 0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.440 to the victim as that Muslim woman and saying that 0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:32.319 her head scarf means she believes in Sharia law. And 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:34.480 Finn goes, so she's a terrorist, and then the mom 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:35.359 lawyer's up for her. 0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.520 Oh my god, Emmy Blotnik has the best joke right now, 0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:40.920 because you know, people that hate mom Donnie, it's always 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.160 like Sharia lah, you know, yah, yeah, and she goes, yeah, 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.839 you know, New York filled with millions of people, all 0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.399 differing on so many topics, but what brings us all 0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.920 together is Sharia law. Yeah, like this idea that like 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.360 that's what we would all be voting for or whatever, 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.000 that he's going to get the NYPD to enforce Sharia 0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:01.800 law in New York City. But that's what got everyone 0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.600 everyone of I mean, it is crazy that this episode 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:09.239 because it's not ahead of its time, because stuff was 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:10.600 happening in the Middle East for. 0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:11.360 Decades, you know. 0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:16.920 Yeah, but it is wild that it's this a few years. 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:21.959 Before more of this started boiling over and yeah, so. 0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.920 In but it's also it's like, you don't know anyone 0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:28.960 with a head scarf. That's like chilling fun like I 0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.960 don't know, yeah, like you yeah, you don't know any 0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:35.120 Jews or like not into it. 0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:39.200 Yeah. Also yeah, no, I was gonna, but they don't. 0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.319 There are other religions that were whole head scarves too, right, 0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:44.719 there are other religions that wear head coverings. I mean, 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.200 of all people Jews, it's like you guys wear Yamaica's 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.960 we guys. I'm a Jew, but like we wear Yamaica's 0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:54.440 men and well people cover their heads. 0:40:55.000 --> 0:41:03.920 Well it's yeah, it's just racist. Yeah, but you know 0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:05.959 they're showing the two side. 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:07.719 The one dad is like, I don't agree with her, 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.560 but we didn't do this, and the other mom is 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:14.080 like she practiced is sharia law famously storming New York 0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.760 City taking it over right now. So in Liz's office, 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:19.080 the gang is brainstorming. 0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:21.200 So we've got motive an opportunity. 0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.319 They hate this woman all over social media, but none 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:24.680 of their posts advocate violence. 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.000 They're also straight A students. 0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:29.040 They have no records and there's no other evidence, and like, 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:32.160 I'm sorry if two teens were gonna commit a rape 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.240 on the fly in a temple. They're leaving DNA, but 0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.120 we keep saying this like they're not leaving an impeccable 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.319 crime scene behind. Okay, there's no other evidence, there's no 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:45.760 DNA on the rape kit. Benson asks Finn his thoughts 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:49.359 and he says, I see racism all around, and Benson says, well, 0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.120 why don't we release the boys and we'll see if 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.279 Nala can make an id Releasi is now walking and 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.960 talking with the redhead chief of staff Aida again and 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:01.480 she's like, this was a hate we know who is responsible. 0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.520 Is NYPD afraid of being labeled anti Semitic and they 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.239 tell her they want to find out who did this, 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.239 and at the same time as Naula as walking out 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.120 with an elderly constituent promising to protect her from eviction, 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.239 so they want to show her some photos and her 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.200 chief of staff is like, she didn't see the guy, 0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.319 and she's like, no, let the cops do their work, 0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.360 and then she says no, no, she's right, like I 0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.439 didn't see shit, and then she swipes through a bunch 0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:28.239 of the dudes the on the iPad and she doesn't 0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.880 recognize any of them, but then she stops at Ari's picture. 0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:32.800 She goes, I don't know him from that night, but 0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.920 I know him from earlier that day, and she also 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:39.080 id's Michael and says he was there too. He grabbed 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.560 my job and spit in my face. There Islamophobes, it's 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:44.960 in their blood. One of these boys had. 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.800 To have done it. So she's like saying racist things 0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:48.240 as well. 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.799 You know, Liz, it's like a fucking nightmare, and it's like, 0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:54.960 it's a fucking nightmare ignorant, but it's not. 0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:58.799 It's worse than ignorance, yeah, heye. 0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:02.319 And I don't think it's ways comes from ignorance or 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:03.560 does it inherently? 0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:04.160 I don't know. 0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:05.600 No. 0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.960 I think sometimes it's just generational. 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:14.200 Centuries after centuries, people are taught, you know, to that 0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:16.800 that's like there the beliefs of their family and everyone 0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:18.320 around them, and it's like this is what we believe, 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:22.359 you know. But Liv is like, okay, So these boys 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.040 were protesting outside her office earlier that day and they 0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:28.400 didn't mention it, and obviously they said they they thought. 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:29.960 It would make them look guilty, which it does. 0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:32.440 And also they said that she started it, and they're like, well, 0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.759 did anyone else witness this? DoD breezes in goes head 0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.680 over to metro buzz okay the website, and they have 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:42.880 footage of the entire argument, like a very clear high 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:46.560 death right up close footage. The boys are in her face, 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.520 calling her an anti semi and she goes, ew, stop 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:51.680 spitting in my face like an animal. But she means 0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.120 like while he's talking, like he didn't spit in her face. 0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.719 He's spitting while he's talking because he's mad. And then 0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:58.880 he puts a hand on her for like maybe a 0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.200 split second to get her attention and says, don't call 0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.279 me an animal, and she goes, are you trying to 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:04.440 rip off my hijab? 0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:06.120 Which riles up the crowd. 0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.080 It's an act of aggression, like and it clearly on 0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:10.880 the video is like not what he's trying to do. 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.319 But he is screaming in her face, which is not good. 0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.759 And it's all over the news that that footage, they say, 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.800 and the claim that the NYPD arrested two Jewish teens 0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.040 even though they didn't arrest the teens. They let the 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.719 teens go, so they like someone must have leaked it. 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.479 Dodds is stressed about the optics. He's like, it would 0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:29.319 have been easier if it had just been too alt 0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:33.400 right thugs. And now at Metro Buzz, Finn and Careesi 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.239 are talking to some dork and they want to know 0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.920 who told him they arrested the two Jewish teens when 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:40.440 they did it, and he's like, I can't give up 0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:42.640 my sources, and I like hate this guy. He starts 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:45.920 eating a banana mid conversation that makes me want to 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:49.120 throw up, Like stop like eating a mushy fruit in 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:52.720 the middle of a conversation. It's not his problem, NYPD 0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:55.279 wants to control the narrative, he says, and Caresee's like, 0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:56.480 aren't you a journalist? 0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:57.840 Like are you supposed to care about the truth? 0:44:57.880 --> 0:44:59.839 And he goes, yeah, it turns out there's a lot 0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:02.480 of different truths out there, and you know, this is 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:07.160 the height of alternative facts and like fake news and 0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.479 shit like that, because this is like two years into 0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:13.320 Trump And he says, are there any more questions? 0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:13.960 I got work to do? 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.440 Is he keeps mowing on his banana and they go 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.560 had your film crew just happen to be front and 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.520 center for all of this? And he's like, I guess 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:23.239 I just got lucky. I've been covering the councilwoman. I 0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:26.120 knew things would get ugly. Eventually, Carisi and Finn are 0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:27.640 gross out by this guy. I am too. 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:29.480 He keeps up with his banana and then they leave. 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.560 So Stone and Benson are now, as per usual, boozing 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.040 at a bar together and he says that video does 0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:37.279 not look good for the boys. And they're watching the 0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:40.160 news and Nala is there also giving an interview about 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:40.920 these boys. 0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:42.800 Who targeted her at her office with the protest. 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.000 She went to the synagogue in good faith and she 0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:49.000 was sexually assaulted there, and Stone says, she's pouring gas 0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.439 on the fire, and Cariese's like, maybe more than that. 0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:55.720 We found an outgoing call from Nala's office to metro 0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.280 Buzz at three point thirty that day, and the confrontation 0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.400 happened at four point fifteen. So did she orchestrate this 0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:04.520 whole thing? Is it a hoax? And Stone goes, maybe 0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:06.560 it's not the only hoax. So now, of course Stone's 0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:08.320 the first one to be like, she made up the rape, 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.960 and Benson and Stone confront Nala at her office, suggests 0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.520 that she orchestrated the whole thing, which she denies, and 0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.400 they're like, basically, She's like, well, they were protesting outside 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.160 of my office, and they're like, sure, but once you 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:21.719 knew they were there, you exploited this situation, like you 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:24.440 turned up the heat, you did all, you know. And 0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:29.200 she's like, everybody's so worried about the Jews, and Benson's like, no, 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:31.560 we're just trying to figure this out. Why would you 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:33.040 call metro buzz And she goes it could have been 0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:35.880 someone else in my office, and Stone counters, yeah, but 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:37.920 anybody in your office who made that call would have 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.319 a vested interest in your success. And then she gets 0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.600 mad and she's like, are you suggesting I'm lying about 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:47.040 my assault? And Benson's like, absolutely not, and Stone's like, yeah, 0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:50.920 pretty much I am. And she's like and Stone is like, 0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.040 you couldn't describe your attacker. Your rape kit was inconclusive. 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:57.400 I mean, he's being an asshole. Nala is outraged and says, 0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:59.400 I wonder if my headscarf has something to do with 0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:02.239 you doubting me, And Benson has to like diffuse this 0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:07.719 situation because, you know, although this episode is episode four 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:11.040 of season twenty, so Stone is still getting his SVU legs, 0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.520 I would say, right, he's still kind of being addict 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:17.080 to victims, probably here and there, so so she goes, 0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:19.720 can you just give our text access to your phone records? 0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:22.440 And she's like, no fucking way, Jose, I thought the 0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:24.919 days of police calling victims liars were over. 0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:26.360 I guess not so. 0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:30.160 Outside the press is swarming once again, asking why aren't 0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:32.839 those Jewish kids in custody and like, yeah, I don't 0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.400 know if the press would be like framing it like that. 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:39.759 But Stone is stonewalling, and Benson thinks Nala could be 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.520 hiding something on her cell phone, and Stone's like, I'll 0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.840 get a subpoena. But Benson is worried that this is 0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:47.160 going to further the narrative that the victim is being persecuted. 0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:49.320 He goes, grab what phone records you can from the 0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:52.160 service provider. I'll go after metro Buzz. So we cut 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.719 to the precinct where they have the whole tape from 0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:56.759 metro Buzz. Okay, so what we had seen on the 0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:58.759 news was like an edited tape and this is like 0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:02.279 the raw footage. So the judge agreed with Stone and 0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:04.680 said that it was a stage publicity stunt, not a 0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:08.279 protected act of journalism. And in the video, Nala goes 0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:11.319 straight into the mob instead of walking away like she 0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:13.279 comes out of her office, she sees there's a mob 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:15.480 of protesters and she walks straight into it instead of 0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:17.799 being like, Bye, I'm getting in a carb going home, 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:20.560 and she demands to know why are you harassing me? 0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:23.360 And they're like because you talk shit about Jewish people? 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.080 And she's like, you condone genocide. And they're fighting back 0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:28.359 and forth and they go, you're the one that wants 0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:30.400 to push us into the sea. Who's paying you to 0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:33.040 come down here? Ziona is from Apac, Like you're not 0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.719 real Americans. Like there's all this back and forth going on, 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.080 and the kid goes cause I don't know if it's 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:39.520 Ari or Michael. Honestly I lost her. 0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:43.799 All the mislicals are like building hotels and just like, 0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.400 I don't know, excited by all of this? 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:51.080 Yeah, so annoying, Yeah, like building concentration camps? 0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:55.000 You mean? But no, like did you see the Gwyneth 0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:56.960 Paltrow ad No? 0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:01.640 Oh, she is like jaw gig through Israel, looking at 0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.759 saying like look at all these luxury homes and hotels, 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.640 how lovely? And it's like you, no, that was someone's 0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:10.239 home and they've all just been bombed to fucking pieces 0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:15.080 and she's jogging through. It's trying to sell luxury real estate, 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:20.719 like where just even fucking murdered, Like Jenne's like a 0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:21.920 whole population of. 0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:23.520 People just fucking exploded. 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:25.839 And I mean I had friends telling me that when 0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:28.480 you know, like a few years ago, like they're like, 0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:30.920 the Kushners are gonna buy up all this land and 0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:33.040 they're gonna make resorts like that Ai. 0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:37.360 The post land in Armenia, and the Armenians are furious. 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:39.399 It's and that's the thing. 0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.560 I've saw a thing where it's like these billionaire capitalists, 0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:47.200 these like colonizers there that's never enough, never enough for 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.880 these fucking people. But Gwyneth Pultrow, it's just like that 0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:51.880 clip coming out like I'm an independent, I don't really 0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.080 think about stuff. I feel nothing, and then an ad 0:49:54.120 --> 0:50:00.239 coming out like I sell real estate. It's right, but 0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:02.520 I don't think any I don't think anything matters because 0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:04.160 money unifies people more than anything. 0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:07.200 Yeah, so fucked up. You got to see the squind 0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.239 of that. I'm gonna look it up as soon as 0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:12.600 we're done here, are you kidding? That's crazy? But the 0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:14.480 one of the teens, I can't tell these two teen 0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:18.279 boys apart really. One of them goes, I am I 0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.120 am America, I'm a Jewish American or whatever, and she goes, 0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.319 so it's all about the Benjamins, then, isn't it. So 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:28.080 she's using like inflammatory like, you know, they're both like 0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:31.480 I think they're all in this episode using inflammatory language 0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:35.600 about each other, and she's taunting him. 0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:36.799 Careesy points it out. 0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.400 He's like, look like she's saying all this stuff to like, 0:50:39.440 --> 0:50:41.680 but the Benjamin's part gets caught out of the thing, 0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:44.879 you know, and then then we see that don't spit 0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:46.920 in my face and the rip to jab attempt, and 0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:51.000 they're just not like, that part's not included, and so 0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.560 obviously metro Buzz only posted the second half of the 0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:57.279 confrontation and they don't buy that. They don't buy that 0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:00.319 these teens would have retaliated against that by sexually assault her, 0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:02.719 like that's it. But they're like, maybe she staged it, 0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.239 and Stone's like, if so, she'll be the one in handcuffs. 0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:09.319 So meanwhile, in the b plot, Benson tells Dodds how 0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:12.600 Rob Miller's lawyer served her with a subpoena last night 0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:14.680 at home when she was home with Noah, and he 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:16.880 also had a state trooper pull her over with Noah 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:20.120 in the car. Nikki stains is terrified and won't testify, 0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:22.560 and you know, she's like, he raped her and he's 0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:25.040 gonna get away with it, and Donn's is like. 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:26.200 Why don't you let me worry about that. 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.319 The Mayor's office needs to know we're making progress with 0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.400 the Nasar case, and so she says, we're working on it, 0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:34.160 and he goes, we'll work faster. It's like, I don't 0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:36.920 know when work faster has ever like yielded better results. 0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:43.320 But he also asks Benson about some memo and then goes, 0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.520 you'd let me know if you had issues with that, right, 0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:47.000 and she goes, yeah, I would have let you know. 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:48.600 I don't really know if they ever come back to 0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:50.520 the memo, and I don't know what it is, but 0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:54.720 maybe somebody else does. Robins pops in with some info 0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:59.200 over Eizen finally turned over all of Nala's call logs. 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:03.240 Nothing from the day of the assault or the night before, 0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:05.160 but there are a lot of calls to a nine 0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:07.600 one seven number, and who is this person? Could that 0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:11.840 be her accomplice? So Finn and Cares are on the scene. 0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.520 The phone is registered to Tracy Larson and they're at 0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:17.640 the address and it's meow mixed two point zero is 0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:21.239 what it's called. And Finn asks Cariesy, you know what 0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:24.040 this is? And Creasy goes a petsto and it's a 0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:27.239 lesbian bar and Tracy is the owner. She's not there. 0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:29.799 Carisey and Finn are goofing around, going, oh, she's not here. 0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:30.480 You don't know where she is. 0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:32.440 I guess we'll just sup, we'll just chill, we'll just 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:35.160 post up here, and uh wait until she gets here, 0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:38.479 because like nothing chills the mood. Then two straight male 0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:42.960 detectives at a lesbian bar and uh, Caresy ghosts, can 0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:44.520 I get a club sodo with a lot of limes. 0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:46.520 I love limes, like the way he says it is 0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:50.720 really funny to me. And that's when they clock done. Done. 0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:55.600 Nala herself at the bar, ordering a dirty martini from 0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:57.200 the bartender who she knows by name. 0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:58.759 No Hi, job on. 0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:02.320 They make I contact with her and she knows the 0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:05.239 jig is up outside She's begging them, please do not 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:07.480 out me. My professional life will be over, and they're like, 0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:10.680 so is the hijob Muslim thing like just for show, 0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:14.120 and she goes the way they were, this is weird. 0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:15.600 She goes, it didn't start out that way. 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.360 Like they make it seem like she became Muslim for 0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:19.279 the show, like for the show of being a city 0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:22.279 council person, and that's like not true. She was a 0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:26.240 devout Muslim and then when she met Tracy everything changed. 0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.040 They've been together for about a year, so dundun, she's 0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:31.839 a lesbian and she trusts the ladies at this bar. 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:34.960 She asks them to do the same, and she's. 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:37.479 Like, I'm really territfied of my parents finding out as well, 0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:40.120 and Finn goes, listen, your sexual orientation is none of 0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:42.640 our business unless it affects your case, and she goes, 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:44.520 it doesn't. And the whole time she's talking to them, 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:46.399 she's like tying her hit job back on because she's 0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:49.399 like out on the street and I think that now 0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:50.960 Mix two point zero is the only place where she's 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.600 allowed to be herself. So at the precinct, Benson's like, 0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:58.640 but at the same time, it's like, Lady, any random 0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:01.399 lesbians can go into that bar, like anyone can say 0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:02.920 they saw a city council person. You do know, think 0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.760 there's not gossipy lesbians like, it's not like everyone's a regular. 0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:09.959 It's very ballsy, a member's only club. Maybe I would buy, 0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:14.120 but like just a bar. But also I don't know 0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:15.000 council people. 0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:18.239 Yeah, like if some councilman was with or without a 0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:21.839 job or her glasses, like the only reason I know, mom, Donnie, Like. 0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:23.360 I don't know, I don't know anything. 0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:26.360 I know what my local council person looks like, and 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.680 I know maybe what like three LA council people look 0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:30.400 like in La. But you're right if they were if 0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:33.359 I was in a different neighborhood and naked, and I'd 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:34.160 have no idea. 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:34.440 Who they were. 0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.919 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd be like, look at this weird guy. 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:43.600 Oh he's actually the rep from Council twelve, so District twelve. 0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:48.760 I meant, okay, So at the precinct, Benson's like, okay, 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.960 well why can't she be gay and Muslim? And Rollin's like, yeah, 0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:54.560 that's fine, just don't run for office and lie about 0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:57.560 who you are, and Coreasey points out that growing up 0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:00.160 gay in a devout family has to be rough, and 0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:02.960 Finn's like, yeah, and if we were in Iraq, they'd 0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:05.800 throw her off a roof, which is a talking point 0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:08.880 that gets you know, parroted a lot, but Benson wants 0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:12.200 them to chase this angle, talk to her family, et cetera. 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:15.240 That's the thing with always that where it's just like, yeah, 0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:17.320 but you don't care about gay people in our country, 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:21.319 Like yeah, and also how does that like because their 0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:24.040 government hates gays, so then we should explode that, like 0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.440 I don't know if being a dead gay it proves anything, 0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:30.200 Like it's just none of that ever matters. Or like 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:31.640 when they talk about the Middle East and are like 0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:33.200 what about the women, I'm like, I don't know, a 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:35.120 lot of women here aren't treated well, Like what are 0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:37.719 you talking about? You don't actually care? I hate when 0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:41.160 people use like what is it bad faith arguments? Yeah, 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:43.680 obviously you would like that, but it's like you don't 0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:47.040 care about yay men or gay people or poor people, 0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:50.320 So stop fucking pretending when it like gives you motivation 0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:51.440 to Bamba country. 0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:53.400 Yep, exactly. 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:58.080 So now they're sitting and talking to Nala's dad and mom. Okay, 0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:02.520 they immigrated from Syria for years ago. Nala was born 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:04.680 there in the States, they're very proud of her. She 0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:08.440 majored in foreign relations at Dartmouth worked in DC and 0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:10.640 they're like, thankfully, she also stayed in the faith the 0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:12.800 entire time. And they're like, well, did she have a 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:14.880 rebel from the religion? And they're like a little bit like, 0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:16.720 she went to high school in Brooklyn and she wanted 0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:19.440 to fit in, but she started wearing the hit job 0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:23.160 when she met Masud, her ex husband, which the parents 0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:26.120 are pretty chill about her having an ex husband. They've 0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:29.120 been divorced two years. The mom says it was very amicable. 0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.160 He wanted a large family and she wasn't ready. She 0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:33.480 wanted to focus on her career, and so they go 0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:37.480 to speak to Masud. He is a florist, and he 0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:38.960 was like, yeah, I was going to reach out to 0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:40.560 her when I heard what happened, but I didn't think 0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:43.839 she want to hear from me. And the kid thing 0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:47.880 is basically what they told her parents and his parents, 0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:49.440 but they basically grew apart. 0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:52.840 They weren't quote unquote on the same page romantically, he says. 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:56.400 So she still loves her gay and that's why he's 0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:58.920 a florist. What's going on here? No, I think he 0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:01.240 is straight, but that's funny. 0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:01.919 I think. 0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:03.680 Yeah, he just was like she didn't want to have 0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:06.400 sex with me because she doesn't like men. So he 0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:08.040 still loves her, but he thought it was best to 0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.200 let her move. On the night of the attack, he 0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:12.640 was at the flower shop all day until eight o'clock 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:16.240 when he walked home and Caresee says okay, thanks. But 0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:19.680 when they walk out, he's suspicious as hell. He tells Rollins, 0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:21.560 there's no way he was at that flower shop till 0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:23.720 eight and Caresy They're like, how do you know? And 0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:26.080 Creasey goes, because I saw his ass on the metro 0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:28.880 Buzz video watching the whole thing go down. When I 0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:30.840 tell you that, They go back to the precinct and 0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:34.560 they check the tape and Masude is so far in 0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:35.560 the fucking background. 0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:36.880 It's like a where's Waldo? 0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:39.840 There is no way in hell Careese would have clocked 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:42.680 this dude and memorized his face. It could be one 0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:44.320 thing if he looked at the photo later and goes, 0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:45.640 wait a minute, is that the guy we talked to 0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:47.320 at the flower shop? But to see him at the 0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:51.800 flower shop and recognize him being a centimeter big in 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:54.640 this video is crazy to me. Maybe he's watched it 0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.720 a thousand times. Who knows, but Taru trace this guy's 0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:59.640 cell phone to the flower shop all night, so he 0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:03.200 must been smart enough to leave it behind. At Nana's office, 0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:05.400 she says, I haven't seen Masuit in two years since 0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:08.760 we split, and he hasn't reached out. But then redheaded 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:10.800 chief of staff, And again, is this wrong of me 0:58:10.840 --> 0:58:12.280 to keep referring to her as a redhead? She has 0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:15.400 very beautiful red hair. I don't ever say the brunette 0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:17.840 chief of staff. Really, I just do it with a 0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:21.120 redhead because her hair is very like pretty and red 0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:23.600 and it's kind of like a striking thing about her. 0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:29.800 But I hope that's not, you know, being weird. She says, well, 0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:32.360 that's actually not true. He's been here three times in 0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:34.040 the last few months and I made him leave. And 0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:36.880 Nala's like, bitch, why didn't you tell me that? And 0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:39.120 She's like, well, he stopped coming when I told him 0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:41.040 that I was going to call the cops. But I 0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:43.000 am pretty sure I saw him waiting outside one day 0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:46.680 last week, so obviously your plan didn't work. And Nana's like, okay, 0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:49.640 he was stalking me. And Benson says that an older 0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:51.720 woman in the area that night said that she saw 0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:54.280 Masud hanging around the synagogue. Now is this the same 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:57.000 woman Esther? And is she just hanging around the cinemagogue 0:58:57.440 --> 0:59:01.400 literally reporting anyone she sees walking too quickly or just 0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:04.840 hanging around. A good question that we don't get the 0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:07.280 answer to it. I'm just finding it. 0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:10.200 Is such a good jew name, like they are like 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:13.080 in terms of like the name Stereo, like the names 0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:14.160 that they are reinstormed. 0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:16.800 I think has to be really nailed it. My grandma's 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:18.400 name Esther yep. 0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:23.120 So uh is there anywhere else he could have followed you? 0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:25.880 And Nalah is clueless, and they ask Aita to leave 0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:32.360 the room, okay, And like Bensing goes, could he have 0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:35.439 followed you to Morgan's Bar? And I don't know why 0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:39.080 she calls it Morgan's bar because Tracy's name is Tracy Larson. 0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:41.320 The bar has called me how mixed two point zero? 0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:44.040 I don't know why. I think that seems like I 0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:46.800 caught something. I caught a mistake and I love to 0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:51.560 do that. And Nala goes, I don't know, But then 0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:53.520 she says, but now that I think about it, about 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:55.760 a month ago, Tracy told me that a man walked 0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:59.080 into the bar looked around, realizes it was a gay bar, 0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:02.360 and then spat on the floor and left. And there's 1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:05.040 no cameras in the bar, but there is dot cameras 1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:09.080 at the intersection by the bar. So Releisi walk into 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:12.400 the flower shop together as Masud is selling a bouquet 1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:14.480 to someone, and when he sees them, he puts the 1:00:14.480 --> 1:00:17.480 scissors like into ante. He's like holding, you know, pruning 1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:20.240 shears for flowers. But when he sees these two cops, 1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:22.560 he like snatches it up in his hand like an 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:25.080 attack position. Christy goes, whatever you think, and that's a 1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:28.640 bad idea, and he hangs up the scissors. He puts 1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:31.120 his hands up. They cuff him and arrest him for rape, 1:00:31.240 --> 1:00:33.280 and he goes, I'm not surprised Nana is accusing me. 1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:36.960 She hates men, don't we all. We're not all just 1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:41.520 like fucking, you know, accusing random people. Robin says, I'm 1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:43.360 not sure about that, but she definitely hates you. 1:00:43.480 --> 1:00:43.720 Dog. 1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:47.520 So outside of court, there's another huge protest going on, 1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:50.080 and Nalla's sitting in a car with Benson and she's 1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:52.400 like everyone in New York either despises me or thinks 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:55.960 I'm a liar. She's like, stressed out. Her family's going 1:00:56.000 --> 1:00:57.560 to be in court. She could lose her family, she 1:00:57.560 --> 1:00:59.440 could lose her job. She's like, I don't know if 1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:01.640 this is all worth and Benson gives her a classic 1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:04.960 Benson pep talk. You deserve justice, it doesn't matter your mistakes. 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:07.360 She says, people have lost faith in me. Benson says, 1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:09.400 it's because they don't know you. This is your chance 1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:10.760 to tell them the truth. You can do this and 1:01:10.800 --> 1:01:13.439 I'll be right behind you. They walk into court as 1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:17.560 two sides of protesters both scream you know. Nala is 1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:20.480 on the stand now explaining what happened to her. She said, 1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:23.000 she initially told the police she didn't see who raped her, 1:01:23.160 --> 1:01:26.040 but now she knows it was her ex Masud Parage, 1:01:26.480 --> 1:01:29.080 and the police told me that they went that he 1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:30.840 had found out I was a lesbian. I know he 1:01:30.880 --> 1:01:34.320 assaulted me because he felt I had violated his honor. 1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:37.680 At first, she didn't recognize him as her rapist because 1:01:37.680 --> 1:01:40.760 they hadn't been intimate in years. But how did she 1:01:40.840 --> 1:01:43.600 know it was him? Then she said, the rapist grabbed 1:01:43.640 --> 1:01:46.000 my hair with his right hand and pulled it really, 1:01:46.040 --> 1:01:48.280 really hard as he was assaulting me, and that was 1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:50.400 the same thing Masud used to do when we had sex. 1:01:50.720 --> 1:01:52.439 So now she's like, I now know it was him, 1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:55.920 And now it's the defense's turn. How shitty for that 1:01:55.960 --> 1:02:00.760 to be your signature sex move? Is pain hair pulling? 1:02:00.960 --> 1:02:04.360 Like some people like hair pulling, but not painful. Every 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:06.400 single time he just pulls my hair and I hate it. 1:02:06.480 --> 1:02:09.280 You know that's not going to be a recipe for success. 1:02:10.240 --> 1:02:12.280 So now it's the defense's turn. And who is the 1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:16.120 attorney but Naomi Ziggler, who is the woman who defended 1:02:16.120 --> 1:02:20.040 one of the attackers in American Dream and Sanctuary, which 1:02:20.120 --> 1:02:23.120 is another episode with Muslim victims that we just did 1:02:23.160 --> 1:02:28.240 a few weeks ago. Same lawyer is back and she asks, Nala, 1:02:29.000 --> 1:02:31.400 did you tell the police about the hair grabbing? And 1:02:31.480 --> 1:02:33.920 she's like, no, I didn't, And she said, well, so 1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:37.200 you didn't remember it until after they told you my 1:02:37.240 --> 1:02:39.840 client was a suspect, And honestly, like, this is the 1:02:39.920 --> 1:02:42.320 kind of thing Barbara would have said, no fucking way, 1:02:42.360 --> 1:02:44.400 find me some more evidence, Like there's no way I 1:02:44.440 --> 1:02:47.080 can put her on the stand with her saying I 1:02:47.160 --> 1:02:49.640 never saw my attacker, but now I know it's my 1:02:49.720 --> 1:02:52.400 attacker because you arrested him and he did this hair 1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:54.040 pulling thing, you know what I mean. 1:02:54.120 --> 1:02:56.080 It's like it has to be her. 1:02:56.760 --> 1:02:59.960 Her testimony has to be unbiased, and it's completely biased 1:03:00.080 --> 1:03:04.000 by I think the police and all this stuff. So 1:03:05.560 --> 1:03:07.480 I would think Barbara would not have even put her 1:03:07.480 --> 1:03:09.280 on the stand with this or gone forward with this 1:03:09.360 --> 1:03:11.840 case unless they found more evidence. But you know, Stone 1:03:11.840 --> 1:03:16.000 does his own thing. So the lawyer is interrupted, so. 1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:18.400 Not like thinking like, oh, yes, this reminds me of 1:03:18.480 --> 1:03:21.560 my husband, like right, being like raped on the floor. 1:03:21.320 --> 1:03:21.919 You know what I mean. 1:03:22.160 --> 1:03:26.080 Like sure, so they put it all together, but it's 1:03:26.200 --> 1:03:28.200 not enough evidence I think for them to like put 1:03:28.240 --> 1:03:30.000 her on the stand. 1:03:30.200 --> 1:03:32.000 You know, I just feel like they wouldn't have. 1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:34.000 But I know it's a TV show. So the lawyer 1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:36.640 is interrupting Naala and going, but at first you thought 1:03:36.640 --> 1:03:38.440 your rapist was a boy in a maga hat, right, 1:03:39.000 --> 1:03:40.840 She goes, well, my aide said there was a witness, 1:03:40.880 --> 1:03:42.520 And she's like, and then you told them it was it. 1:03:42.480 --> 1:03:44.000 Was these two Jewish boys. 1:03:44.120 --> 1:03:48.520 She's like, yes, but I recanted that, and she goes, yeah, 1:03:48.520 --> 1:03:50.240 the two Jewish boys that you had baited into a 1:03:50.240 --> 1:03:52.720 confrontation earlier that day, and she says I should not 1:03:52.800 --> 1:03:55.440 have done that, And then the lawyer says the confrontation 1:03:55.600 --> 1:03:57.520 was a hoax. Isn't it true the police also thought 1:03:57.560 --> 1:03:59.560 the rape was a hoax, and you lied to police 1:03:59.600 --> 1:04:02.000 several times, and you lied about being gay. Isn't this 1:04:02.160 --> 1:04:05.240 all a hopes to gain sympathy and raise your political profile. 1:04:06.000 --> 1:04:10.480 Stone objects. Judge Karen Blake sustains, we all know that's 1:04:10.520 --> 1:04:14.080 Aby Brabson, sv regular judge and the wife of the 1:04:14.160 --> 1:04:18.440 late Great Andre Brower, and Nala says she thought. Nala 1:04:18.880 --> 1:04:20.680 pipes in and goes, I thought I had to hide 1:04:20.680 --> 1:04:23.200 that part of my life. I was afraid and Ziggler 1:04:23.200 --> 1:04:25.720 cuts her off with this bitchy nothing further, but Nala 1:04:25.840 --> 1:04:28.400 keeps going. She goes, I'm risking it all to be here, 1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:31.920 my career, my family, everything, But I'm not afraid anymore. 1:04:32.240 --> 1:04:36.080 So you know the jury that could resonate with the jury. 1:04:36.080 --> 1:04:39.320 Her parents are in the gallery, like you know, and 1:04:39.400 --> 1:04:42.760 Masad is on the stand now saying I wasn't stalking her. 1:04:42.800 --> 1:04:44.959 I was worried about her. I was just checking on her. 1:04:45.320 --> 1:04:47.160 And then they're like, but you were at the synagogue 1:04:47.160 --> 1:04:49.120 that night, and he goes, I wasn't white people in 1:04:49.160 --> 1:04:51.440 that neighborhood think all buzzled people look alike. I'm used 1:04:51.480 --> 1:04:53.520 to it by now. And then he's like, I wish 1:04:53.520 --> 1:04:55.800 I had followed her. I could have saved her. And 1:04:55.880 --> 1:04:59.560 he says he knew. He did know she was a lesbian, 1:04:59.600 --> 1:05:01.480 which was ful at first, but he loves her and 1:05:01.480 --> 1:05:03.880 he would never hurt her. And Stone's like, oh, so 1:05:03.960 --> 1:05:05.960 you love her, you were protecting her. Did you ask 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:08.800 her if she needed protection? He's like no, and she's 1:05:08.840 --> 1:05:11.560 like and Stone's like, so she had no choice. So 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:13.760 that sounds like a lot more like stalking than love. 1:05:14.280 --> 1:05:16.400 And then what about when you spit on the ground 1:05:16.560 --> 1:05:20.160 of your ex wife's lover's bar? Was that concern as well? 1:05:20.480 --> 1:05:23.120 And he's like, no, that was wrong. And then they're like, well, 1:05:23.120 --> 1:05:25.360 were you angry jealous? And he goes, you don't understand 1:05:25.800 --> 1:05:29.200 she's my wife, and he goes your ex wife and 1:05:29.240 --> 1:05:31.480 the music ramps up, so you know Stone's going in 1:05:31.520 --> 1:05:34.320 for the kill. He's like, you brought to Sharia law, right, 1:05:34.560 --> 1:05:38.600 and he's like yes, and he says, well, Sharia law 1:05:38.680 --> 1:05:42.080 doesn't recognize divorce under the American legal system. That must 1:05:42.120 --> 1:05:44.959 have been hard for you to accept as a conservative Muslim. 1:05:45.360 --> 1:05:48.240 He's like, doesn't really say anything, and she's like, you're 1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:50.360 not like Nala, who takes off her hit job whenever 1:05:50.400 --> 1:05:52.360 she feels like it and sleeps with random women. 1:05:52.600 --> 1:05:54.240 Okay, rude, she has a steady girlfriend. 1:05:55.360 --> 1:05:57.400 Oh sorry. This is when he says, you follow Sharia law. 1:05:57.440 --> 1:05:59.600 He says yes, and he's like, and doesn't Triola say 1:05:59.600 --> 1:06:02.840 that homsrual as a moral and he quotes Trila quote, 1:06:02.880 --> 1:06:04.880 if any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take 1:06:04.920 --> 1:06:07.840 the evidence of for reliable witnesses from amongst them, and 1:06:07.920 --> 1:06:10.920 if they testify, confine them to houses until and then 1:06:10.960 --> 1:06:14.200 Stone goes until what until what? Like pushing him and 1:06:14.240 --> 1:06:18.720 he's demanding an answer from Mussad, who is looking sweatier 1:06:18.760 --> 1:06:21.880 by the second at his lawyer objects, and Stone keeps pushing, 1:06:21.920 --> 1:06:24.160 and he finally goes until death do claim them? 1:06:24.400 --> 1:06:26.160 And then I should have killed her, he said. 1:06:26.360 --> 1:06:29.760 But uh, Stone goes, so yeah, instead of just assaulting 1:06:29.760 --> 1:06:32.240 and raping her, why didn't you kill her? And he 1:06:32.280 --> 1:06:34.720 says because she is my wife, and everyone is like 1:06:34.880 --> 1:06:38.320 just staring in silence, like Stone grins and goes nothing further, 1:06:39.080 --> 1:06:43.120 and at closing arguments Ziggler is doing. They're actually I 1:06:43.120 --> 1:06:46.000 would say that they don't really give all the defense 1:06:46.040 --> 1:06:49.240 attorneys a chance to have a nice closing argument, Like 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:51.880 they'll give Barba the opportunity, you know, the prosecutors, but 1:06:52.400 --> 1:06:54.560 not all of the defense attorneys get that. And they 1:06:54.560 --> 1:06:59.320 give Ziggler this big, you know, monologue where she's like, 1:06:59.760 --> 1:07:02.680 you know, if you wear a red baseball cap, civilized 1:07:02.680 --> 1:07:05.640 society thinks you're a racist, a bigot of the worst order. 1:07:05.960 --> 1:07:08.240 It's so different you are. 1:07:08.200 --> 1:07:11.400 At this point. Yeah, at this point, like, nobody's wearing 1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:14.520 a red baseball hat if they're fully anti MAGA because 1:07:14.520 --> 1:07:17.160 they know they'll be mistaken for Maga. Even the ones 1:07:17.520 --> 1:07:20.880 that are like make Kanye normal again or whatever, the 1:07:20.920 --> 1:07:24.400 ones that are like parodies, stop wearing those. Like nobody 1:07:24.440 --> 1:07:26.480 should be wearing those either, because those are so far 1:07:26.520 --> 1:07:28.240 away making people think that you're MAGA. 1:07:28.360 --> 1:07:30.439 Yeah, and I'll get into it when we get into 1:07:30.480 --> 1:07:32.720 the crime. But it's this thing of like you can't 1:07:32.840 --> 1:07:35.560 judge me for my beliefs. It's like, I absolutely can. 1:07:35.800 --> 1:07:38.360 What are you talking about. Yeah, if you are, if 1:07:38.400 --> 1:07:41.960 you are supporting someone that is a fucking felon that 1:07:42.080 --> 1:07:45.880 steals from charities that has fake colleges, that has been 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:48.840 found like guilty in civil court of rape. 1:07:48.600 --> 1:07:50.560 Like I don't what do you talk to you? Then? 1:07:50.680 --> 1:07:53.919 Are yes, I can judge you like this idea of 1:07:54.360 --> 1:07:57.160 actually not to bring up Savrus's podcast again, I'm like 1:07:57.360 --> 1:08:00.440 the number one the number one advertising, but Ian was 1:08:00.440 --> 1:08:02.000 on it. They were talking about just like right wing 1:08:02.040 --> 1:08:03.840 comics and like the man those types of you know, 1:08:03.880 --> 1:08:07.080 the Austin scene and he goes, what is freedom of speech? 1:08:07.160 --> 1:08:10.760 Like I don't want you arrested? I just think you suck. Yeah, 1:08:10.800 --> 1:08:13.640 I can't think you suck and you bombed like that. 1:08:13.720 --> 1:08:17.240 You can't be free of judgment, Like. 1:08:17.560 --> 1:08:19.040 That's what freedom of speech is. 1:08:19.080 --> 1:08:22.280 Freedom of speech is free of like legal persecution, not 1:08:22.400 --> 1:08:26.120 that you can that's you can't just say whatever you 1:08:26.160 --> 1:08:27.920 want and go, I'm gonna keep my job at a 1:08:27.960 --> 1:08:31.120 nonprofit like you know, you can't, like they're gonna fire you. 1:08:31.360 --> 1:08:31.519 Yah. 1:08:31.600 --> 1:08:33.599 In terms of comedy, it's like say whatever you want, 1:08:33.640 --> 1:08:35.920 but I'm allowed to say you suck, You're not fine, 1:08:36.000 --> 1:08:37.760 and I don't think you should have a career, Like. 1:08:37.840 --> 1:08:40.240 Well, that's what do you always say about the whole 1:08:40.280 --> 1:08:42.840 You can't say anything anymore? Crowd, but I just don't 1:08:42.840 --> 1:08:47.599 say anything going. I mean, I don't want you arrested, right, 1:08:47.880 --> 1:08:49.479 you don't get jail time, but you don't get my 1:08:49.520 --> 1:08:50.240 money anymore. 1:08:50.400 --> 1:08:52.120 You know, you don't get like my attention. 1:08:52.800 --> 1:08:56.400 Okay, So anyway back to this monologue, She's like, if 1:08:56.400 --> 1:08:58.559 you wear a red baseball hab, civilized society thinks you're 1:08:58.600 --> 1:09:00.920 a racist, a biggot of the worst. If a teen 1:09:01.000 --> 1:09:03.840 runs out of a synagogue, we assume they're reliving the 1:09:03.920 --> 1:09:06.280 bliss of crystal knocked. I mean, that's like a wild 1:09:06.400 --> 1:09:10.519 phrase to put into a monologue. If a Muslim woman 1:09:10.720 --> 1:09:12.720 is attacked, we have to believe the attacker is in 1:09:12.720 --> 1:09:15.559 an islamophobe. But in this case, the teen was running 1:09:15.640 --> 1:09:18.519 because he was scared. The brutal attacker was not Jewish. 1:09:18.720 --> 1:09:21.080 How do you know that? If you think your client 1:09:21.240 --> 1:09:23.320 isn't guilty, then you don't know who the attacker is. 1:09:23.439 --> 1:09:24.880 But all he could be a Jew. 1:09:25.120 --> 1:09:28.040 Those boys should have called the authorities like yeah, fine, 1:09:28.080 --> 1:09:31.080 you didn't do it, but you saw a bloody attacked 1:09:31.120 --> 1:09:34.320 woman on the floor of a synagogue and ran away 1:09:34.360 --> 1:09:39.679 and said nothing, right, right, that's not great behavior totally. 1:09:40.320 --> 1:09:44.080 So whatever she says, if you are Russian. So basically, 1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:47.160 her whole closing argument is assumptions. It don't make assumptions 1:09:47.200 --> 1:09:50.160 about people. If you're rushing to assume that, which is 1:09:50.160 --> 1:09:51.479 you know, obviously the name of the episode. 1:09:51.520 --> 1:09:53.639 If you're rushing, you're gonna say that she said something 1:09:53.680 --> 1:09:54.320 about Russians. 1:09:54.360 --> 1:09:56.480 I'm like, wow, Russians made the monologue. 1:09:58.560 --> 1:10:00.760 She goes, if you're rushing to assume that she was 1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:02.880 attacked by her former husband because it was mandated by 1:10:02.920 --> 1:10:06.559 some medieval Koranic code, then shame on you. And then 1:10:06.640 --> 1:10:08.960 Stone gets up and says, yeah, so what she just 1:10:09.000 --> 1:10:12.080 brought up aren't assumptions, their hate filled stereotypes. We know 1:10:12.200 --> 1:10:14.360 this woman as a lesbian, We know her ex husband 1:10:14.439 --> 1:10:17.200 knew that. We know his religion tells him homosexuality is 1:10:17.200 --> 1:10:20.280 punishable by death. We know he was there, even though 1:10:20.320 --> 1:10:23.080 he denies that, and we know she's she has id'ed 1:10:23.120 --> 1:10:23.799 him as her rapist. 1:10:23.920 --> 1:10:26.080 Those are the facts that we know. What do we like? 1:10:26.200 --> 1:10:28.280 What do we do now with those facts? We look 1:10:28.280 --> 1:10:31.719 at the facts and we assumed he raped her. That's okay, 1:10:32.000 --> 1:10:34.400 that's how our system works. That's the way our system works. 1:10:34.960 --> 1:10:36.200 I mean, I thought it was supposed to be like 1:10:36.240 --> 1:10:39.599 beyond a reasonable doubt, like but yeah, now we're at 1:10:39.640 --> 1:10:41.759 deliberation and he's found guilty. 1:10:41.960 --> 1:10:42.679 Sorry, Ziegler. 1:10:43.160 --> 1:10:45.840 Benson is slow nodding to Nala, who looks back at 1:10:45.840 --> 1:10:47.640 her parents and they look like they don't know what 1:10:47.760 --> 1:10:51.920 to say. But outside the courtroom, Nala thanks Benson and Stone. 1:10:52.000 --> 1:10:54.120 She's wondering if she has the strength to come back 1:10:54.120 --> 1:10:56.120 from all this, and then her parents come out and 1:10:56.200 --> 1:10:57.080 she excuses herself. 1:10:57.200 --> 1:10:58.120 She approaches her. 1:10:58.120 --> 1:11:00.639 Parents and her mom says, I love you in Arabic. 1:11:01.080 --> 1:11:03.360 We're still proud of you, she says, and you are wrong. 1:11:03.520 --> 1:11:05.639 You haven't lost your family's love. And they all hug 1:11:05.720 --> 1:11:07.280 because that could have gone a couple of different ways, 1:11:07.360 --> 1:11:12.000 like there are there have been people who have said bye, 1:11:12.640 --> 1:11:14.200 like you know, we're not gonna. 1:11:14.120 --> 1:11:16.599 We've had some honor at killing episodes. 1:11:16.120 --> 1:11:19.240 Yes, yeah, or like even the night episode where they're 1:11:19.280 --> 1:11:22.760 Bosnian Muslims and he's like basically ready to beat the 1:11:22.840 --> 1:11:24.560 fuck up out of anyone who even talks about his 1:11:24.600 --> 1:11:27.519 sister getting attack, but so they all hug. It's a 1:11:27.600 --> 1:11:30.080 tender family moment, and then it is quickly interrupted when 1:11:30.479 --> 1:11:34.439 ding the elevator opens and some psychotic man comes out 1:11:34.479 --> 1:11:37.280 and starts throwing shit at Nala's, calling her a disgrace, 1:11:37.920 --> 1:11:41.120 and you know, he's obviously a practicer of Sharia law, 1:11:41.160 --> 1:11:43.880 it seems, because he's willing to throw rocks at a 1:11:43.920 --> 1:11:46.960 woman he doesn't know personally, and they pull him away, 1:11:47.400 --> 1:11:49.880 but her head is bleeding a little bit, so he 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:53.080 got her. And then that's kind of the wrap up 1:11:53.120 --> 1:11:57.920 of this story. But the posts script of the episode 1:11:58.200 --> 1:12:02.080 is at an Italian restaurant, Benson's eating with Noah and 1:12:02.680 --> 1:12:05.960 she's roasting his basic bitch ass for always ordering spaghetti. 1:12:05.720 --> 1:12:07.960 And he's like, but should I get something different? She's like, 1:12:08.000 --> 1:12:09.000 it's fine, you like what you like. 1:12:09.320 --> 1:12:11.759 Then the music is kind of spooky and Noah clock's 1:12:11.880 --> 1:12:14.960 Rob Miller standing in the doorway of the restaurant. This 1:12:15.160 --> 1:12:17.960 is bosh, this is powerful lawyer. Why is he in 1:12:18.040 --> 1:12:20.599 this little restaurant that she's eating at with her son? 1:12:21.160 --> 1:12:23.920 And he's like, Mom, there's a man, Why why is 1:12:24.000 --> 1:12:25.879 he there? And why is he not on our podcast? 1:12:26.840 --> 1:12:30.040 I'm sending Titus what the fuck? I'm sending him an 1:12:30.040 --> 1:12:33.320 email today. So because the girl that the girl that 1:12:33.360 --> 1:12:35.240 connected me to him said he's really hard to organize 1:12:35.240 --> 1:12:37.280 over email, send him another email, and I'll nudge him again. 1:12:37.360 --> 1:12:39.760 So I'm going to email him personally and see if 1:12:39.760 --> 1:12:43.040 anything happens, we'll see. So she looks around, but by 1:12:43.080 --> 1:12:44.800 then someone's moved out of the way, so she doesn't 1:12:44.840 --> 1:12:47.000 know who it is. And then in the next split second, 1:12:47.240 --> 1:12:49.960 he's approaching the table and he's like, Lieutenant Benson, nice 1:12:49.960 --> 1:12:51.800 to see you, and she's like, what are you doing here? 1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:53.360 Like she looks upset, and he. 1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:55.800 Goes, probably like, how are you affording this restaurant in 1:12:55.880 --> 1:12:57.200 your civil servants salary? 1:12:57.520 --> 1:12:58.040 Confusing? 1:12:58.479 --> 1:13:02.360 Yeah, and he goes, this must be your son, Noah. 1:13:02.520 --> 1:13:04.559 Why do you know her son's name? You freaking creep? 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:07.160 And Noah is like, are you a friend of my mom's? 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:09.080 And he goes, I am a good friend. 1:13:09.200 --> 1:13:11.920 It's like this is very menacing, right, and he goes, 1:13:12.000 --> 1:13:14.040 I'm Rob, nice to meet you and shakes his hand 1:13:14.400 --> 1:13:18.360 and Benson looks so uncomfortable. And that's dick Wolf baby, 1:13:18.520 --> 1:13:21.759 And you know, we haven't done these episodes yet Blackout, 1:13:21.840 --> 1:13:24.160 and then there's another episode that ends with him. There's 1:13:24.240 --> 1:13:26.680 two episodes that he's featured in and we're gonna do them. 1:13:26.840 --> 1:13:29.920 And he's he's scary. He's like one of these scary, 1:13:30.040 --> 1:13:34.720 powerful guys, you know, Like so that's that's that on 1:13:34.840 --> 1:13:40.639 that episode. Yeah, well butmmer yeah all right, as I'm 1:13:40.680 --> 1:13:42.559 sure the crime is about to be as well. 1:13:50.000 --> 1:13:52.479 Okay, So this is. 1:13:52.560 --> 1:13:55.320 Based on like three different things, one of which I 1:13:55.400 --> 1:13:58.120 feel like everyone knows and is waiting. In this image 1:13:58.840 --> 1:14:02.080 from It's a Conferent at the Lincoln Memorial from January 1:14:02.160 --> 1:14:05.720 twenty nineteen, it's like the Native American man and then 1:14:05.800 --> 1:14:08.400 the white young boy with the red hat on. 1:14:08.920 --> 1:14:12.120 So I see this boy's face in my head right now, 1:14:12.240 --> 1:14:13.759 and I want to crush his face. 1:14:14.080 --> 1:14:16.800 I know, because perception is so funny because just so 1:14:16.840 --> 1:14:20.120 many people it's like, oh, because he keeps me like 1:14:20.200 --> 1:14:22.160 the whole time, and so much of his stuff is 1:14:22.240 --> 1:14:25.479 like I was smiling, so people knew that I wasn't 1:14:25.600 --> 1:14:28.080 gonna give in and be angry, and I was smiling 1:14:28.160 --> 1:14:31.759 to feel welcoming. And it's like, no, you look evil, 1:14:32.240 --> 1:14:36.000 Like yeah, you are evil, smug as you are smug. 1:14:36.080 --> 1:14:38.120 And this idea of like what looks like a good 1:14:38.240 --> 1:14:41.639 guy to certain communities or people is like the face 1:14:41.760 --> 1:14:44.800 of true like evil, discomfort and unsafety. You know what 1:14:44.880 --> 1:14:47.800 I mean, and him just acting like we're actually just 1:14:47.920 --> 1:14:50.320 good boys, and I was smiling. 1:14:50.760 --> 1:14:54.400 And it's like, no, your eyes are not, like what 1:14:54.520 --> 1:14:56.439 are you? You think we're fucking stupid. 1:14:56.800 --> 1:14:59.320 Like it's like when someone doesn't want to raise their voice, 1:14:59.360 --> 1:15:03.160 so they think that doing something like better, but it's 1:15:03.240 --> 1:15:06.240 it's I called it like the I'm not touching your face. 1:15:09.840 --> 1:15:13.360 It's like okay, but like you are being annoying, you 1:15:13.439 --> 1:15:13.800 know what I mean? 1:15:15.160 --> 1:15:17.920 So yeah, I wrote smug evil and knowing he's gonna 1:15:17.920 --> 1:15:20.759 get away with it, and just like being a young Trumper, 1:15:20.840 --> 1:15:22.960 it's like so sad and weird being and. 1:15:23.200 --> 1:15:27.240 Like teens, like they're on a school trip right, like yeah. 1:15:27.360 --> 1:15:31.479 So this was also the Indigenous People's March, so it's 1:15:31.560 --> 1:15:34.439 also this thing of like, oh, we were just there, 1:15:34.439 --> 1:15:36.600 and it's like you showing up to an event for 1:15:36.760 --> 1:15:39.160 brown people in the red hat is an act of 1:15:39.280 --> 1:15:40.880 something and you're pretending it's not. 1:15:41.000 --> 1:15:42.840 It's like why are you there? Why were they there? 1:15:42.920 --> 1:15:43.880 These were students there. 1:15:43.920 --> 1:15:46.080 They were there for the anti choice march, like that 1:15:46.200 --> 1:15:49.200 was happening later that week, so they were here to 1:15:49.360 --> 1:15:51.680 do this like what they call pro life, but like 1:15:51.760 --> 1:15:54.880 this anti abortion thing and they decided to go crash 1:15:55.000 --> 1:15:58.840 the Indigenous people's march, which is wild and this man 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:01.920 is like an elder with the Ome tribe, and he 1:16:02.080 --> 1:16:05.240 said that all he saw was unbridled hate with these people. 1:16:06.120 --> 1:16:07.880 And if you look at the photos, even the people 1:16:07.920 --> 1:16:10.760 behind the red hat, it's like they're gross people. So 1:16:11.439 --> 1:16:14.080 the boy's name is Nick Sandman, and he's a student 1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:18.000 at the Covington Catholic School from Kentucky. And this is 1:16:18.040 --> 1:16:20.280 the quote CNN quoted him going, I did smile at 1:16:20.320 --> 1:16:22.360 one point because I wanted him to know that I 1:16:22.479 --> 1:16:25.040 was not going to become angry. And it's like, okay, 1:16:26.360 --> 1:16:29.400 he goes, I'm a faithful Christian and practicing Catholic, and 1:16:29.479 --> 1:16:31.360 I always try to live up to the ideals. My 1:16:31.439 --> 1:16:34.560 faith teaches me to remain respectful to others and to 1:16:34.680 --> 1:16:37.280 take no action that would lead to conflict or violence. 1:16:37.360 --> 1:16:41.080 And it's like they can't possibly be believing what they're saying, 1:16:41.720 --> 1:16:45.479 Like the crusades, the witch burnings, what are you talking about? Yeah, 1:16:46.120 --> 1:16:50.400 like your religion is based on fucking murdering I know 1:16:51.200 --> 1:16:54.479 anyone that's not, Like you vote for the party that's 1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:58.600 pro death penalty. It's like I just like don't understand, 1:16:59.400 --> 1:17:00.479 like so weird. 1:17:00.600 --> 1:17:00.880 Okay. 1:17:01.400 --> 1:17:03.760 So, and he's like, I just want to caution people 1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:07.040 about rushing to judgment. But like the hat, you show 1:17:07.080 --> 1:17:09.439 what you stand for. I don't see a white guy 1:17:09.680 --> 1:17:12.800 and go that's an evil man. Right, Well I do, 1:17:12.960 --> 1:17:16.960 of course, but I'm just saying, but like you putting 1:17:17.040 --> 1:17:20.320 the hat on, it's like, yeah, it means something, and 1:17:20.400 --> 1:17:23.160 we could take meaning away, but it is what it is. 1:17:23.280 --> 1:17:23.880 So yeah. 1:17:24.560 --> 1:17:27.400 Kaya Titiano is a student from the University of the 1:17:27.439 --> 1:17:30.280 District of Columbia and she was there and she's quoted 1:17:30.360 --> 1:17:32.960 in CNN saying I did not feel safe in that circle. 1:17:33.560 --> 1:17:35.920 And she said that she heard teens chanting build the 1:17:36.000 --> 1:17:39.479 Wall and Trump twenty twenty and like build the wall 1:17:39.560 --> 1:17:40.600 to Native Americans. 1:17:41.200 --> 1:17:42.400 Okay, yeah. 1:17:43.080 --> 1:17:46.040 So Nathan Phillips, it was playing the drums. He's like 1:17:46.160 --> 1:17:49.200 the elder of like from Omaha of the Oma tribe. 1:17:49.240 --> 1:17:51.760 So Nathan Phillips is playing drums and he said he 1:17:51.920 --> 1:17:55.920 was doing like this heel like this prayer for peace 1:17:56.200 --> 1:18:00.599 on the drum because basically, and the boy wouldn't get 1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:02.000 out of the way, Like the boy wouldn't leave or 1:18:02.000 --> 1:18:03.599 get out of the way or make room for him, 1:18:03.880 --> 1:18:06.880 but he did it. Because what ended up it's kind 1:18:06.920 --> 1:18:08.760 of like this where there was like a short clip 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:11.560 that came out and then everyone made their pieces and 1:18:11.920 --> 1:18:15.679 journalists stuff and whatever, and then a longer video came out. 1:18:15.840 --> 1:18:18.919 Yeah, like in this episode, right, yeah, and we're contact. 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:24.600 So basically, there was a group of black Hebrew Israelites 1:18:25.280 --> 1:18:28.479 and the Trump Catholics and they were arguing with each other. 1:18:29.800 --> 1:18:33.560 So there was like commotion with them, and then he 1:18:33.840 --> 1:18:36.800 came over with this peace drum. Okay, and I hope 1:18:36.800 --> 1:18:39.479 I'm not using offensive language, but like that is what happened. 1:18:40.080 --> 1:18:40.639 So then. 1:18:42.000 --> 1:18:46.240 They called the students incent babies and school shooters. That's funny, 1:18:47.439 --> 1:18:50.880 that's those are funny insults to me, Like I don't know, 1:18:51.840 --> 1:18:54.240 and they they used the UN word, so I don't know, 1:18:54.720 --> 1:18:58.160 like yeah, and then the student was saying they just 1:18:58.200 --> 1:19:00.759 surrounded him and they were mocking him, in mocking the chant. 1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:03.920 And then of course Phillips, you know, served in the 1:19:04.000 --> 1:19:07.320 US Marine Corps and it's like so like to say, 1:19:07.400 --> 1:19:09.120 build the wall and get out of our country is 1:19:09.160 --> 1:19:12.800 like so crazy. The Catholic anti abortion guy ended up 1:19:12.920 --> 1:19:15.400 suing the Washington Post, if you remember, for two hundred 1:19:15.400 --> 1:19:19.200 and fifty million dollars, and the parents, being super Catholic, 1:19:19.400 --> 1:19:22.439 asked the Kentucky Federal District Court to help them quote 1:19:22.720 --> 1:19:25.519 teach the Post a lesson. It will never forget. These 1:19:25.560 --> 1:19:30.559 are really litigious people. The judge at first dismissed the lawsuit. However, 1:19:31.080 --> 1:19:34.200 so many settlements, Oh my god. So the Washington Post 1:19:34.240 --> 1:19:36.240 settled out of court with the parents for an undisclosed 1:19:36.320 --> 1:19:39.080 him out, and then another like the judge reinstated three 1:19:39.160 --> 1:19:41.400 out of the thirty three statements were allowed back in 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:45.559 for the case. And then CNN also settled with the family, 1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:47.439 so they sued them too, and they filed a suit 1:19:47.479 --> 1:19:49.920 for two hundred and seventy five million dollars against CNN, 1:19:50.680 --> 1:19:53.400 and again no details of like how much money, what 1:19:53.560 --> 1:19:54.880 a villain, what a villain? 1:19:54.920 --> 1:19:55.639 Origin story? 1:19:55.760 --> 1:19:58.680 And then the boy keeps saying he was not disrespectful, 1:19:58.720 --> 1:20:00.960 but again, wearing a hat that to an event for 1:20:01.040 --> 1:20:04.800 brown people is disrespectful. But what the video proved too 1:20:05.040 --> 1:20:08.280 is like the boys didn't approach Phillips. Philip approached them, 1:20:08.320 --> 1:20:10.400 but they wouldn't get out of the way. And it's 1:20:10.439 --> 1:20:13.519 like journalists should there is there should just be a 1:20:13.600 --> 1:20:17.200 high standard for journalism, you know, and we talked about 1:20:17.240 --> 1:20:20.000 this recently in another case. But he also is a miner, 1:20:20.160 --> 1:20:24.479 so like he's sixteen posting things that might not be real. 1:20:24.800 --> 1:20:26.840 I mean, I don't know, but they also suit NBC 1:20:27.000 --> 1:20:30.599 News And then twelve other individuals for defamatory statements, including 1:20:30.720 --> 1:20:34.400 Elizabeth Warren, other senators, celebrities, anybody that had an audience 1:20:35.160 --> 1:20:38.320 that lied, and libel miners they've never met. And it's like, 1:20:38.600 --> 1:20:40.519 I wonder if these parents have the same care for 1:20:40.640 --> 1:20:42.960 like the teenagers who are murdered by police all the time, 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:46.080 as being children and for their innocence and safety, and 1:20:46.240 --> 1:20:49.880 like how they the way the media picks photographs of 1:20:49.960 --> 1:20:53.240 these children to portray them a certain way, Like I 1:20:53.320 --> 1:20:56.720 wonder if they have that much love and empathy for 1:20:56.880 --> 1:21:02.719 those children. But like oh oh, his or son libeling miners. Yeah, 1:21:03.880 --> 1:21:07.200 And so then eight more Catholic school students started suing 1:21:07.280 --> 1:21:09.760 as well. The New York Times got sued, Sean King 1:21:09.880 --> 1:21:13.360 got sued. Everyone's being sued. But yeah, so like before 1:21:13.439 --> 1:21:17.120 more context came out, people started making opinions. But it's like, yes, 1:21:17.200 --> 1:21:20.400 because your hat means something, so like you wanting there 1:21:20.479 --> 1:21:22.840 needs to be good faith and just young boy. It's 1:21:23.000 --> 1:21:26.040 just like it's not but I can't imagine how much 1:21:26.120 --> 1:21:29.759 money they made. The President tweeted in support of these people, 1:21:30.439 --> 1:21:34.320 and they compare judging people that are Trumpers to be 1:21:34.520 --> 1:21:37.120 like McCarthyism, and it's like they don't have caught. 1:21:37.200 --> 1:21:39.280 They are so stupid. 1:21:40.080 --> 1:21:42.360 Also, that kid will probably run for office. Mat Oh, 1:21:42.400 --> 1:21:44.880 it's where oh, don't worry, don't worry. So well, he's 1:21:44.920 --> 1:21:46.880 not old enough yet, but yeah, hold on. So then 1:21:48.160 --> 1:21:50.000 and then they're like the Post was trying to further 1:21:50.120 --> 1:21:52.200 their political agenda. It's like it's not even a real 1:21:52.240 --> 1:21:55.639 paper anymore. Yeah, it's like, no, what are you talking about. 1:21:55.680 --> 1:21:58.920 It's a bought paper by the upper class, like and so. 1:21:59.800 --> 1:22:01.680 And of course that year he was a speaker at 1:22:01.680 --> 1:22:05.360 the RNC. Other speakers included Mark and Patricia McCloskey. They're 1:22:05.360 --> 1:22:07.680 the Saint Louis couple who stood outside their homes with 1:22:07.720 --> 1:22:10.200 guns during the Black Lives Matter march. So it was 1:22:10.280 --> 1:22:13.280 like a virtual RNC. And then there was an article 1:22:13.320 --> 1:22:15.639 behind a paywall for Cincinnati dot Com. I didn't pay 1:22:15.680 --> 1:22:18.240 for it, but it said that in quotes that like 1:22:18.360 --> 1:22:21.200 Charlie Kirk was a lifeline to him, and he loved 1:22:21.400 --> 1:22:25.519 Charlie Kirk and he recently, according to w LWT five 1:22:25.720 --> 1:22:30.080 NBC Kentucky slash Cincinnati affiliate, they're like very close. March 1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:32.439 twenty twenty six, he took the stage during a Trump 1:22:32.439 --> 1:22:33.960 event in hebron, Kentucky. 1:22:34.360 --> 1:22:38.320 So he is speaking at Trump ra celebrity local Kentucky celebrity. 1:22:38.720 --> 1:22:43.840 This fucking punch probably made millions of dollars. And I 1:22:43.880 --> 1:22:46.400 guess I'll say allegedly to everything, I don't know whatever. 1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:49.320 Yeah, But then it's also like opinions or not, And 1:22:49.360 --> 1:22:51.720 it's like if I think you're a racist loser, like 1:22:51.880 --> 1:22:52.360 how is that? 1:22:53.160 --> 1:22:54.960 Like why can't that opinion be real? 1:22:57.080 --> 1:22:57.280 Yeah? 1:22:57.360 --> 1:22:59.720 But I guess so, Like what the basis of a 1:22:59.760 --> 1:23:01.840 lot of the suit was was like, well, you said 1:23:01.880 --> 1:23:04.439 he approached them, but he approached them, And it's like, 1:23:04.720 --> 1:23:08.000 you're your parents are a loser, You're a loser. Whoever 1:23:08.040 --> 1:23:10.559 you impregnate, it's a loser. Like you're all fucking losers, 1:23:11.200 --> 1:23:13.360 Like I just I don't know pay taxes. 1:23:13.560 --> 1:23:14.160 And that's the thing. 1:23:14.240 --> 1:23:14.479 I think. 1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:17.040 Honestly, the kid had not had that smirk on his face, 1:23:17.080 --> 1:23:18.880 that would this would be a story. We would never 1:23:18.920 --> 1:23:19.240 have heard. 1:23:19.600 --> 1:23:21.840 Yeah, it's like we know who this is. Like that's 1:23:21.880 --> 1:23:22.559 why this idea. 1:23:22.800 --> 1:23:25.280 Like when I've hated and argued with all these guys 1:23:25.360 --> 1:23:27.519 for decades in comedy and people are like, what do 1:23:27.560 --> 1:23:30.280 you mean he's such a nice guy, It's like, well, 1:23:30.439 --> 1:23:35.080 you're an idiot, Like like there's face, Like there's that. 1:23:35.960 --> 1:23:36.360 I don't know. 1:23:36.600 --> 1:23:38.679 Maybe I've looked that smug in a photo. Who knows, 1:23:38.760 --> 1:23:40.640 But it's like I know exactly who that kid is 1:23:41.360 --> 1:23:44.240 and the lawsuits prove it. And now he's speaking at 1:23:44.240 --> 1:23:49.519 Trump rallies, So like, yeah, like I don't I just 1:23:49.640 --> 1:23:51.600 don't know why you're not allowed to be judged for 1:23:51.680 --> 1:23:53.400 the obvious beliefs and actions you have. 1:23:53.800 --> 1:23:55.080 Yeah. Yeah. 1:23:55.320 --> 1:23:59.800 So the next case is Shama Alawadi and Shama was 1:24:00.000 --> 1:24:01.840 threaty two at the time, and she was beaten to 1:24:01.920 --> 1:24:06.519 death in her home in al kajonekajoone, it's Alcoholne near 1:24:06.640 --> 1:24:11.280 San Diego after moving there from Michigan. Michigan has some 1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:14.720 of America's largest Iraqi communities, and so like, you know, 1:24:14.800 --> 1:24:17.800 moving to San Diego is obviously kind of different. And 1:24:18.080 --> 1:24:20.519 at first this case was treated like a hate crime, 1:24:20.600 --> 1:24:23.479 but it was her husband who murdered her. She was 1:24:23.479 --> 1:24:26.920 an Iraqi woman and her and her husband, Cassim Alhamidi, 1:24:27.200 --> 1:24:30.559 who is forty eight and then charged with first degree murder. 1:24:31.160 --> 1:24:33.639 The two moved to the US from Saudi Arabia nineteen 1:24:33.720 --> 1:24:36.960 ninety five after fleeing Iraq during the First Gulf War. 1:24:37.640 --> 1:24:42.000 It's just crazy to flee a war zone and then 1:24:42.040 --> 1:24:43.000 come here and get murdered. 1:24:43.760 --> 1:24:45.840 Yeah, but that also like that the Bush family, Like 1:24:45.920 --> 1:24:50.439 these motherfuckers have just been like demolishing and destabilizing the 1:24:50.520 --> 1:24:55.439 Middle East for decades. Our brand is Crisis, that movie 1:24:55.520 --> 1:25:01.040 that I love. Yeah, Rosebud's grandfather. It's like crazy that 1:25:01.160 --> 1:25:03.320 like a couple of these guys, Like it's like the 1:25:03.520 --> 1:25:08.360 same guys. It's like the same guys. Yeah, because James 1:25:08.439 --> 1:25:11.719 Baker's been there the whole time. Like it's so crazy. 1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:17.240 So the Alcohol and Police chief Jim Redman said, after 1:25:17.360 --> 1:25:19.760 months of hard work, we determined that this homicide was 1:25:19.760 --> 1:25:22.720 a result was a result of domestic violence, and that's 1:25:22.720 --> 1:25:25.519 according to the NBC News, she was found bloody and 1:25:25.600 --> 1:25:28.559 unconscious with multiple skull fractures in the family home March 1:25:28.640 --> 1:25:31.560 twenty first, twenty twelve, at least six blows to the 1:25:31.640 --> 1:25:33.760 head with a weapon that they found to be like 1:25:33.840 --> 1:25:36.679 similar to a tire iron. She died in the hospital 1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:40.080 three days later. One of their kids' seventeen year old 1:25:40.160 --> 1:25:43.040 daughter was in her bedroom when the attack took place, 1:25:43.080 --> 1:25:44.880 and she found her mother and she's the one who 1:25:44.920 --> 1:25:48.160 called nine one one. It's she and she was a 1:25:48.240 --> 1:25:50.720 mother of five children. It was a big family. There 1:25:50.840 --> 1:25:52.920 was a note found next to the body telling the 1:25:53.000 --> 1:25:55.160 family to go back to where they came from, and 1:25:55.400 --> 1:25:59.360 of course like calling them a terrorist. Fatima al Hamidi, 1:25:59.600 --> 1:26:02.160 the daughter, told CNN that an earlier note was left 1:26:02.200 --> 1:26:06.080 with the house this is our country, not your zoo terrorists. 1:26:06.800 --> 1:26:08.439 But the note was dismissed by the mom as like 1:26:08.479 --> 1:26:10.360 a prank and it was not reported, so there's no 1:26:10.439 --> 1:26:13.439 evidence of it. But a note had been found before, 1:26:13.600 --> 1:26:15.559 and then this note was found next to her body, 1:26:16.160 --> 1:26:19.320 but it emerged later through investigation that she was planning 1:26:19.320 --> 1:26:21.560 to divorce her husband and move with her children to 1:26:21.680 --> 1:26:26.280 be with relatives in Texas. So the husband, after she passed, 1:26:26.320 --> 1:26:28.760 went to Iraq and like did a burial and then 1:26:28.840 --> 1:26:31.439 came back two weeks later, and investigators did not have 1:26:31.479 --> 1:26:33.960 any reason to keep him in the country at the time, 1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:35.800 and only when he came back was he seen as 1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:40.200 a person of interest and with and then through those warrants, 1:26:40.600 --> 1:26:43.040 is then how they found the divorce papers in his car. 1:26:43.600 --> 1:26:45.760 So he had the divorce papers but did not fill 1:26:45.840 --> 1:26:49.320 them out. And they also could not determine his whereabouts 1:26:49.360 --> 1:26:52.439 at the time of her death. And then also I 1:26:52.560 --> 1:26:56.519 learned a new word repatriate, repatriot. So the Iraqi government 1:26:56.640 --> 1:26:59.320 like they did the rapid way to like bring her 1:26:59.360 --> 1:27:01.560 back for the bear and like helped finance it and 1:27:01.680 --> 1:27:04.519 stuff like that, if anyone's wondering. But so he was 1:27:04.600 --> 1:27:07.439 arrested and then November ninth, twenty twelve, so about eight 1:27:07.520 --> 1:27:11.479 months after and then during deliberations in court, the jurors 1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:13.920 were reminded of the defendant's timeline and the day of 1:27:13.960 --> 1:27:16.639 the beating. And I'll be honest, I should have maybe 1:27:16.960 --> 1:27:19.519 tried to find the court transcripts, but there's not much 1:27:19.640 --> 1:27:23.479 evidence really, so I wonder what's missing. But like, so 1:27:23.640 --> 1:27:25.760 Seima called her husband at eight o four am and 1:27:25.840 --> 1:27:28.760 then videos show a Burgundy Nissan quest going and leaving 1:27:28.800 --> 1:27:31.479 the home that morning eight fifteen am. The van was 1:27:31.520 --> 1:27:34.720 seen traveling southbound as Alhamidi returns to the house from 1:27:34.760 --> 1:27:37.680 taking the kids to school. At nine forty nine, a 1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:40.599 vehicle matching the description stopped at the curb just north 1:27:40.640 --> 1:27:44.040 of the intersection of Emerald and Skyview, and then thirty 1:27:44.080 --> 1:27:46.600 seconds later a pedestrian can be seen moving from the 1:27:46.720 --> 1:27:49.200 vehicle towards the house and their address was five six 1:27:49.280 --> 1:27:52.160 four sky View. Then at ten ten am, cell phone 1:27:52.200 --> 1:27:55.760 records show someone calls Alhamdie's cell phone, but it goes unanswered, 1:27:56.400 --> 1:27:59.200 and then he's still in his home tower area according 1:27:59.240 --> 1:28:01.840 to the cell tower at ten ten am and then 1:28:01.880 --> 1:28:04.160 eleven eighteen am is when he got this call from 1:28:04.200 --> 1:28:07.439 his daughter after she called nine to one one. There was, however, 1:28:07.560 --> 1:28:10.200 no forensic evidence linking their client to the crime scene, 1:28:10.240 --> 1:28:13.080 said the defense. He pled not guilty, of course, but 1:28:13.120 --> 1:28:15.880 he was found guilty of murder April seventeenth, twenty fourteen. 1:28:16.360 --> 1:28:18.960 His eldest son is the only person in the family 1:28:19.000 --> 1:28:21.479 that believes he did not do it. The son, after 1:28:21.560 --> 1:28:23.920 the verdict was red shouted in court, this is bullshit, 1:28:24.040 --> 1:28:26.640 This is fucking bullshit. My dad is innocent. He was 1:28:26.760 --> 1:28:31.519 tried unfairly. Her sister, Marion to San Diego NBC Channel seven, 1:28:31.640 --> 1:28:34.160 said that she can't help, but remember a strange conversation 1:28:34.400 --> 1:28:36.679 she had with her sister just days before the slaying, 1:28:37.439 --> 1:28:39.479 and her sister told her and quote, she did tell 1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:41.240 me that if the police call you and tell you 1:28:41.360 --> 1:28:43.680 your sister has died, Mirian, I want you to know 1:28:43.800 --> 1:28:44.840 it was him that killed me. 1:28:45.920 --> 1:28:46.160 Wow. 1:28:46.479 --> 1:28:49.599 He was sentenced on May fifteenth to twenty six years 1:28:49.680 --> 1:28:53.000 to life in prison with time served for the time 1:28:53.040 --> 1:28:55.400 he was already in prison, and he can file for 1:28:55.560 --> 1:28:58.439 like a parole at twenty six years time serve. 1:28:59.400 --> 1:28:59.679 Damn. 1:29:01.040 --> 1:29:02.080 I mean it just like. 1:29:03.560 --> 1:29:08.519 If there's no other evidence, that's you're like, you know, 1:29:08.760 --> 1:29:10.920 if there's no if there's no evidence that it could 1:29:10.960 --> 1:29:13.880 have been a delivery driver or whatever, like someone else 1:29:13.960 --> 1:29:15.280 on camera or someone else. 1:29:15.560 --> 1:29:17.800 But the note, like the fact that the note was left, 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:20.679 and like the family knew about the previous note, maybe 1:29:20.760 --> 1:29:21.400 that was used. 1:29:21.520 --> 1:29:23.560 Like I am really curious about the trick he do 1:29:23.680 --> 1:29:24.240 the note though. 1:29:25.000 --> 1:29:26.599 They think he wrote the note to make it look 1:29:26.680 --> 1:29:29.599 like a terrorist, like a like assume not a take attack. 1:29:29.960 --> 1:29:30.519 And hate crime. 1:29:30.640 --> 1:29:34.160 Yeah, because initially, like when this happened, every article is 1:29:34.200 --> 1:29:35.240 hate crime, possible hate crime. 1:29:35.240 --> 1:29:38.160 Pubsoutle hate crime, possible hate crime, all of them. 1:29:38.200 --> 1:29:40.719 And then like a lot of articles and think pieces 1:29:40.800 --> 1:29:44.400 about hate crimes and anti Muslim rhetoric and all that. 1:29:44.680 --> 1:29:47.360 I found one piece that was talking about just race 1:29:47.439 --> 1:29:50.120 and crime that included Trayvon Martin within it. So like, 1:29:50.439 --> 1:29:52.240 I don't know, do you know if there's a case 1:29:52.320 --> 1:29:55.120 right now came with Carmelo Anthony and Texas and he 1:29:55.200 --> 1:29:57.679 got like thirty five years, but it was two teens fighting, 1:29:59.080 --> 1:30:01.839 And I need a res more about that case because 1:30:02.560 --> 1:30:06.200 this black team got thirty five years. And I did 1:30:06.680 --> 1:30:09.080 see black people posts like we need to sit on juries, 1:30:09.160 --> 1:30:12.000 so like juris can be fair. But also this kid 1:30:12.160 --> 1:30:14.599 is dead, so like I want to investigate what happened 1:30:14.640 --> 1:30:17.040 and like what was going on with that case. But 1:30:17.439 --> 1:30:20.040 the kid's name is Carmelo Anthony but not related to 1:30:20.880 --> 1:30:22.360 not the basketball players with a basketball? 1:30:23.200 --> 1:30:23.760 Oh got it? 1:30:24.000 --> 1:30:26.760 Yeah yeah, sorry, thirty five years in prison he got 1:30:27.160 --> 1:30:29.320 just because he's seventeen, but they charged him. 1:30:29.439 --> 1:30:29.639 Yeah. 1:30:29.720 --> 1:30:32.360 Yeah. So I haven't read any of the pieces. 1:30:32.439 --> 1:30:35.280 I just saw some black people I follow talking about 1:30:35.320 --> 1:30:38.680 the case and then a kid is dead but it 1:30:38.760 --> 1:30:40.680 was a fight, So I just haven't looked at it. 1:30:40.840 --> 1:30:45.240 But without it's everything is so layered. But yeah, I 1:30:45.400 --> 1:30:48.080 do wonder about everything? Yeah, do I think this man 1:30:48.200 --> 1:30:51.960 killed his wife? Absolutely? Do I think that depending on 1:30:52.040 --> 1:30:55.680 the jury or who's involved or biases what happened. Absolutely. 1:30:56.080 --> 1:30:58.040 And then I haven't looked at the young teen case, 1:30:58.160 --> 1:31:00.640 but thirty five years for seventeen year old seems like 1:31:00.680 --> 1:31:02.679 a lot for an at Was it like a fight, 1:31:02.840 --> 1:31:03.559 a fight gone wrong? 1:31:03.720 --> 1:31:03.840 Right? 1:31:04.120 --> 1:31:04.360 Well? 1:31:05.040 --> 1:31:09.120 Yeah, I mean it's it's a stabbing at a track meet, 1:31:09.280 --> 1:31:12.479 a high school track meet, which is wild. But the 1:31:12.880 --> 1:31:16.120 one kid said I did it as self defense because 1:31:16.880 --> 1:31:21.400 I was under like I was sitting on the bleachers 1:31:21.479 --> 1:31:24.479 and they confronted me and told me to leave, so 1:31:24.920 --> 1:31:26.160 he thought they were. 1:31:27.840 --> 1:31:28.760 Gonna hurt her. 1:31:28.800 --> 1:31:30.679 And then I read one quote from the dad and corporing, 1:31:30.720 --> 1:31:32.439 like you think thirty five years is a lot? Like 1:31:32.479 --> 1:31:35.280 I don't have my son anymore, so it's like, yeah, 1:31:35.320 --> 1:31:37.559 I don't think you know, there is a dead child, 1:31:37.720 --> 1:31:39.760 so of course something needs to happen, but thirty five 1:31:39.920 --> 1:31:40.439 years is. 1:31:42.600 --> 1:31:42.960 A lot. 1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:46.160 But then but then I think about people like Ed Kemper, 1:31:46.200 --> 1:31:47.679 and I'm like, you should have kept him in there forever. 1:31:48.040 --> 1:31:50.400 So it's like and that he got out young, so 1:31:50.600 --> 1:31:53.559 everything is just so And that's where I think race 1:31:53.680 --> 1:31:57.040 comes to play in it, where like Ed Kemper got 1:31:57.160 --> 1:31:58.320 to go in and out of prison. 1:31:59.200 --> 1:32:01.320 I know it's also so where age comes to play, 1:32:01.360 --> 1:32:03.559 because like I do know, seventeen year olds can convey 1:32:03.600 --> 1:32:05.519 horrible crimes, But like, what is it? Are you a 1:32:05.640 --> 1:32:07.960 kid at seventeen or are you not? If you can't 1:32:08.000 --> 1:32:10.880 serve in you can't serve in the military, you can't 1:32:10.880 --> 1:32:13.120 do all these You have no right to vote or 1:32:13.160 --> 1:32:14.560 do anything on your own, but you can go to 1:32:14.680 --> 1:32:17.880 jail with adults. I think this thing has also been 1:32:17.920 --> 1:32:25.080 getting pressed because some January sixer led a protest saying 1:32:25.200 --> 1:32:29.840 protect white America about this murder or whatever, this death 1:32:29.920 --> 1:32:33.479 of this kid, and even the kid, the dead kid's 1:32:33.680 --> 1:32:34.640 dad denounced it. 1:32:34.840 --> 1:32:36.639 But still like it's going to get into the news 1:32:36.720 --> 1:32:39.720 that people are, you know, and it's more than it is. 1:32:39.800 --> 1:32:41.120 And at the end of the day, there's like a 1:32:41.200 --> 1:32:43.120 dead child and a child that's going to be in 1:32:43.200 --> 1:32:44.320 prison now for thirty five. 1:32:44.520 --> 1:32:47.840 Yeah, he can appeal and another judge in jury will 1:32:47.880 --> 1:32:51.280 be a little bit more like it doesn't it doesn't 1:32:51.280 --> 1:32:53.080 sound like they prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it 1:32:53.160 --> 1:32:56.960 wasn't self defense. He can still go to jail for 1:32:57.080 --> 1:33:03.479 some time for a manslaughter. Yeah thing, I think, but tough. 1:33:03.600 --> 1:33:04.599 There is another case. 1:33:05.400 --> 1:33:10.439 So the next one is Yasmin Sawed and she was 1:33:10.479 --> 1:33:14.439 a college student eighteen at the time, and she alleged 1:33:14.479 --> 1:33:17.639 that three drunken men had hurled anti Muslim insults at 1:33:17.680 --> 1:33:21.000 her in a New York subway. She was from new 1:33:21.520 --> 1:33:23.640 That can't be New Hype Park. I'm sure it's New 1:33:23.720 --> 1:33:28.479 Hype Park, New Hope Park. I don't know, but but 1:33:28.640 --> 1:33:31.960 I'm I feel like Googles, Google's changing these words. 1:33:32.240 --> 1:33:35.439 Yeah, you're not doing that. I didn't write New Hype Park. 1:33:35.720 --> 1:33:39.800 Yeah. So she was writing the sixth from twenty third 1:33:39.880 --> 1:33:43.000 in Park on December one, twenty sixteen, after leaving a 1:33:43.040 --> 1:33:46.400 school event at Baruch College, and not only did she 1:33:46.520 --> 1:33:48.280 say that they insulted her, but they told her to 1:33:48.360 --> 1:33:50.920 take off her job and pulled like on the strap 1:33:51.000 --> 1:33:53.960 of her bag. She said she heard the harassers mentioned 1:33:54.000 --> 1:33:57.599 the president at the time, but then she was arrested 1:33:57.680 --> 1:34:01.000 for making a false report to the NYPD. She later 1:34:01.120 --> 1:34:03.080 admitted she made up the story to get out of 1:34:03.120 --> 1:34:07.240 a family problem. NBC New York four reported that sources 1:34:07.280 --> 1:34:09.240 said that she had been drinking with friends and made 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:13.400 up the incident to distract her strict father. The NYPD 1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:16.160 Hate Crimes Task Force had been investigating the case, but 1:34:16.280 --> 1:34:19.479 one week after the lleged incident, she was reported missing 1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:21.759 and was found three days later with a bag of clothing. 1:34:22.479 --> 1:34:24.920 And the charges are filing a fake police report and 1:34:24.960 --> 1:34:29.519 obstructing governmental administration like CNN tried to contact her legal 1:34:29.560 --> 1:34:32.920 aid lawyer, Benjamin West, but they couldn't contact him. And 1:34:33.040 --> 1:34:36.360 also the court documents in the case were sealed because 1:34:37.240 --> 1:34:41.519 she qualified for mandatory youthful offender status, So I'm not 1:34:41.640 --> 1:34:45.439 sure what that is. But Albert Kahn, the director of 1:34:45.520 --> 1:34:49.560 Strategic Litigation at CIAR Care New York, which is the 1:34:49.640 --> 1:34:54.040 Council on American Islamic Relations, they stressed, like the false 1:34:54.120 --> 1:34:56.759 reports and quotes, they do not detract from the numerous 1:34:56.840 --> 1:35:00.160 reports coming from the Muslim community. This one is an 1:35:00.160 --> 1:35:03.120 ancient stand as a barrier to the numerous New Yorkers 1:35:03.160 --> 1:35:05.679 who need to come forward when something like this happens. 1:35:06.280 --> 1:35:09.720 And that's CNN and that is true and real and 1:35:10.160 --> 1:35:14.760 not a real source. But meforum dot org slash Islamist 1:35:14.840 --> 1:35:18.320 Watch said must that she had to go through six 1:35:18.400 --> 1:35:21.040 months of counseling and complete three days of community service. 1:35:21.760 --> 1:35:23.760 They were miss demeanors, so she didn't go to jail. 1:35:24.640 --> 1:35:26.720 And I'm sure her dad fucking sucks. At the end 1:35:26.800 --> 1:35:28.680 of the day she was like, you know, drunk and 1:35:28.760 --> 1:35:30.439 having a good time and was like, fuck, my dad's 1:35:30.479 --> 1:35:31.040 gonna be mad at me. 1:35:31.120 --> 1:35:33.160 It's just like, you know what I mean, like layers 1:35:33.200 --> 1:35:37.960 to it. It's it sucks. It sucks, but I don't know. 1:35:38.160 --> 1:35:41.160 And in this case, it's not like it's not like 1:35:42.040 --> 1:35:45.000 anybody got arrested, right, Like, they didn't arrest a bunch 1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:50.120 of innocent harassers right as the guys. So it's like, yeah, 1:35:50.160 --> 1:35:53.120 you shouldn't obviously do false reports, but no, yeah, no. 1:35:53.280 --> 1:35:56.320 False reports were anti false report here, but I'm pro 1:35:56.479 --> 1:35:57.840 wasting police time. 1:36:00.000 --> 1:36:03.599 All right, let's get going because we have a great 1:36:03.720 --> 1:36:13.880 guest today. Our guest today is an actor you may 1:36:13.960 --> 1:36:16.839 know for her roles on TV shows like The Border, Ransom, 1:36:16.880 --> 1:36:20.439 and twenty four. She also currently plays district Attorney Justine 1:36:20.439 --> 1:36:23.519 Turner on General Hospital, but you know her today as 1:36:23.680 --> 1:36:29.480 counselwoman Nala Nassar. Please enjoy our wonderful conversation with nosnine contractor. 1:36:30.120 --> 1:36:32.040 Well, your kitchens is incredible. 1:36:32.479 --> 1:36:35.599 I'm at my dinner's table. That's my kitchen. Yeah, messy, 1:36:35.760 --> 1:36:40.519 overdone kitchen. It's like one big room this thing. 1:36:40.800 --> 1:36:43.040 So I know your kitchen was giving me la. But 1:36:43.160 --> 1:36:45.280 I was like, I know that you sort of you 1:36:45.760 --> 1:36:47.000 grew up in Canada, right. 1:36:48.000 --> 1:36:49.920 I grew up all over the place, but I definitely 1:36:49.960 --> 1:36:52.559 did the majority of my schooling in Canada, in Toronto. 1:36:52.920 --> 1:36:54.599 And then you've done a bunch of like Canadian TV 1:36:54.720 --> 1:36:56.880 shows and stuff right now, John, But I started my 1:36:56.960 --> 1:36:58.680 career there, Okay, Lettervy. 1:37:00.680 --> 1:37:02.720 I mean I think I truly became Canadian when I 1:37:02.760 --> 1:37:06.120 did that show. And I got street Crow when I 1:37:06.200 --> 1:37:06.719 did that show. 1:37:07.400 --> 1:37:10.519 Yeah, I mean I was not familiar with it until 1:37:10.560 --> 1:37:12.960 he did Rivalry and then obviously have become obsessed with 1:37:13.240 --> 1:37:15.920 Jacob Teary, who directed all. 1:37:15.840 --> 1:37:18.919 The episodes of Letter Can YEAHV mine every single episode? 1:37:19.080 --> 1:37:21.320 Yeah yeah, and like now look at him. 1:37:21.360 --> 1:37:22.040 How amazing. 1:37:22.400 --> 1:37:22.640 I know. 1:37:22.720 --> 1:37:25.360 I can't wait they start filming season two in August. 1:37:25.520 --> 1:37:27.760 I just don't want any paparazzi rooting anything for me. 1:37:28.600 --> 1:37:30.879 I'm like annoyed that people will. 1:37:30.960 --> 1:37:33.759 Know the girl Nadine made the friend. 1:37:34.200 --> 1:37:36.800 Yes, you was a writer on a show that I 1:37:36.960 --> 1:37:39.040 was on and then has come since and like stayed 1:37:39.040 --> 1:37:42.120 at my place a few times with my family, and 1:37:43.560 --> 1:37:45.920 she was here in LA when her episode air and 1:37:46.000 --> 1:37:48.680 she kind of went like viral and exploded and she 1:37:48.840 --> 1:37:50.920 was like, it has me. And I was away at 1:37:50.960 --> 1:37:52.960 the time and I came back and she's like, I 1:37:53.120 --> 1:37:55.800 think I understand that I've had a viral moment and 1:37:55.840 --> 1:37:57.280 I'm like, really, what does that mean. She's like, I 1:37:57.400 --> 1:38:00.639 mean literally, this episode aired and like all of a sudden, 1:38:00.920 --> 1:38:04.439 there's all of this interaction online for me, and it's 1:38:04.520 --> 1:38:08.000 like one show has changed the trajectory of so many 1:38:08.120 --> 1:38:11.600 people's careers who all had great careers to begin with, 1:38:11.840 --> 1:38:14.000 you know, like totally deserved. 1:38:14.400 --> 1:38:16.160 But yeah, that's kind of Canada. 1:38:16.280 --> 1:38:19.200 You all know each other because I went to follow 1:38:19.320 --> 1:38:21.040 Nadine and she was already following me, and then she 1:38:21.200 --> 1:38:23.479 knows Kathleen Monroe's. 1:38:22.920 --> 1:38:23.479 Been on our pot. 1:38:23.760 --> 1:38:28.720 Yeah, all of you Toronto very Yeah, it seems like 1:38:28.760 --> 1:38:30.120 you all know each other and support each other. 1:38:30.280 --> 1:38:31.719 It's small other it's small. 1:38:31.960 --> 1:38:33.519 I mean, like I feel like, especially if you're from 1:38:33.520 --> 1:38:35.320 the east Side, like I don't know as many people 1:38:35.360 --> 1:38:37.840 in Vancouver because it's like such a big country as well, 1:38:38.160 --> 1:38:40.360 and I've worked there only a couple of times. But 1:38:40.520 --> 1:38:44.400 if you're from Toronto or Montreal, you we all know 1:38:44.479 --> 1:38:45.519 each we've all worked together. 1:38:46.000 --> 1:38:48.160 And then what was the moment where you're like, I 1:38:48.240 --> 1:38:49.000 got to get out of here. 1:38:50.439 --> 1:38:51.960 There was no moment that I got to get out 1:38:51.960 --> 1:38:54.479 of here. I mean, honestly, the truth is the truth. 1:38:54.600 --> 1:38:57.479 The unfortunate thing is that, you know, the way the 1:38:57.720 --> 1:39:02.240 Union is set up in Canada, it's like, really Canada 1:39:02.400 --> 1:39:05.599 is really if you want to make a living, it's 1:39:05.680 --> 1:39:08.680 like really a producer's landscape. Like in Canada, there are 1:39:08.760 --> 1:39:12.400 no royalties, there are no residuals. I think that, you know, financially, 1:39:12.479 --> 1:39:15.680 there is a ceiling there if you're an actor. And 1:39:17.040 --> 1:39:18.760 I don't know how that's going to change, Like they'd 1:39:18.800 --> 1:39:20.439 have to change the union. I don't think they're going 1:39:20.479 --> 1:39:23.240 to do that. And I my husband, who was then 1:39:23.320 --> 1:39:27.160 my boyfriend, was already down here and I had already 1:39:27.360 --> 1:39:29.439 you know, I was young, but I had already like 1:39:29.560 --> 1:39:31.640 done a few guest stars on a TV show I 1:39:31.880 --> 1:39:36.439 had starred in. We have a Shakespeare rep company there 1:39:36.600 --> 1:39:40.040 called Stratford, and it's like the biggest Shakespeare rep company 1:39:40.080 --> 1:39:44.120 outside of London, England where you do like eight shows 1:39:44.120 --> 1:39:46.160 a week, and I spent two and a half years 1:39:46.160 --> 1:39:48.000 in that company, playing roles. 1:39:48.160 --> 1:39:50.519 On IMDb it said that you got casts from an 1:39:50.560 --> 1:39:52.360 open call. For that is that good? 1:39:52.560 --> 1:39:55.719 Because right now there's some viral videos going about around 1:39:55.760 --> 1:39:58.200 because they're doing like they just did a Spring Awakening 1:39:58.240 --> 1:40:01.000 open call. And so this act that was in the 1:40:01.400 --> 1:40:05.840 eight or whenever the original Spring Awakening, she got cast 1:40:05.880 --> 1:40:07.960 from an open call. So there's like a trend right 1:40:07.960 --> 1:40:09.559 now where all these actors are talking about how they 1:40:09.600 --> 1:40:11.840 were cast from open calls and that's a real thing, 1:40:11.920 --> 1:40:12.599 and it happens. 1:40:12.720 --> 1:40:15.360 And then I went, I went in between my lunch 1:40:15.400 --> 1:40:18.560 shift and dinner shift that I was working God, and 1:40:18.720 --> 1:40:21.240 the director was from England and he came to Toronto 1:40:21.320 --> 1:40:24.680 to hold open call auditions. I didn't even this is 1:40:24.760 --> 1:40:26.560 just a sidebar, but I didn't even have like you 1:40:26.600 --> 1:40:28.759 were supposed to prepare like a comedic and a dramatic, 1:40:29.080 --> 1:40:33.080 and I couldn't even memorize my comedic. And I called 1:40:33.160 --> 1:40:34.600 my agent and I'm like, I'm just not gonna go. 1:40:34.600 --> 1:40:36.559 I'm gonna go and make a fool myself, Like I'm 1:40:36.600 --> 1:40:38.920 working so much right now, it was like during tiff 1:40:39.080 --> 1:40:40.960 to the Toronto International Film Festival. So I was like 1:40:41.000 --> 1:40:44.439 working my butt off as a waitress and I'm like, 1:40:44.760 --> 1:40:46.920 I'm not going to go. I can't memorize the second one, 1:40:46.960 --> 1:40:49.519 and she was like, just go, who cares. It's an 1:40:49.560 --> 1:40:54.000 open call, right, So I go and I go in, 1:40:54.120 --> 1:40:56.080 and you know, it's like I look back on it 1:40:56.680 --> 1:40:59.560 then it is so amazing. One of them main like, 1:40:59.600 --> 1:41:01.360 I don't I'm so happy I am the age I am. 1:41:01.439 --> 1:41:04.040 But one of the amazing things about being young is 1:41:04.160 --> 1:41:08.840 like that brazen confidence that at least I had, and 1:41:09.040 --> 1:41:11.639 I guess like also the naivity of not really knowing 1:41:11.840 --> 1:41:13.760 like who I was speaking to or this and that. 1:41:13.880 --> 1:41:16.519 So I come in like completely confident of being like, Hi, 1:41:16.720 --> 1:41:18.120 how are you. I'm Nazanine. 1:41:19.280 --> 1:41:22.560 So I only have one piece prepared because I'm a 1:41:22.600 --> 1:41:24.320 student and I'm working a double and this and that, 1:41:24.560 --> 1:41:26.760 so would you like to see it? And then they're 1:41:26.840 --> 1:41:29.599 like okay, great, So I do it and then they're like, oh, 1:41:29.640 --> 1:41:31.080 we're having callbacks later, Shay. 1:41:31.080 --> 1:41:32.519 I'm like, oh no, I can't. I have to go 1:41:32.640 --> 1:41:36.519 back to the restaurant and what I can't I've come 1:41:36.600 --> 1:41:37.160 on my lunch. 1:41:37.439 --> 1:41:39.560 I have to get back to work tonight, and so 1:41:39.720 --> 1:41:43.040 that director ended up delaying his flight the next day 1:41:43.280 --> 1:41:45.559 back to England to see me the next morning before 1:41:45.600 --> 1:41:48.080 I had to go to work again. But it was 1:41:48.160 --> 1:41:50.640 like that kind of like sexy indifference, I guess, but 1:41:50.720 --> 1:41:53.640 I wasn't trying to project it. I was just like no, 1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:56.120 like I didn't think. And I was like, also, this 1:41:56.240 --> 1:41:58.400 is an audition, Like this is my job, you know, 1:41:58.560 --> 1:42:01.280 like I have to pay for school. I can't like 1:42:01.400 --> 1:42:04.719 they're not good, they don't care. So he worked around 1:42:04.760 --> 1:42:07.760 my waitressing schedule and then I had a callback and 1:42:07.840 --> 1:42:10.040 it was like an hour and a half long and 1:42:10.160 --> 1:42:12.720 it was really intense, and he basically made me do 1:42:12.800 --> 1:42:14.280 all these different things to see what I can do. 1:42:14.360 --> 1:42:15.600 And then at the end of the callback, he's like, 1:42:15.600 --> 1:42:17.439 I want to offer you the lead role in my play. 1:42:17.720 --> 1:42:20.160 And no one's going to believe me that you can 1:42:20.240 --> 1:42:23.800 do it because you've never done professional theater in your life, 1:42:23.920 --> 1:42:24.839 let alone Shakespeare. 1:42:24.920 --> 1:42:25.760 But I think you can do it. 1:42:26.400 --> 1:42:28.840 And it ended up being voted like the best play 1:42:28.880 --> 1:42:33.160 of the year, critically acclaimed, like yeah, it was just changed, 1:42:33.160 --> 1:42:35.160 it changed my lips. I did that what play was 1:42:35.240 --> 1:42:37.920 it it was called so it's actually a lesser known 1:42:38.400 --> 1:42:41.120 Shakespearean play. It's considered one of the problem plays. It's 1:42:41.160 --> 1:42:44.439 called Pericles. We called it the Adventure of Pericles. It's 1:42:44.479 --> 1:42:46.680 only been mounted at Stratford. I think this was its 1:42:47.360 --> 1:42:49.639 second when I did it in the fifty first season. 1:42:49.760 --> 1:42:52.840 It was its second time only ever because it is 1:42:52.920 --> 1:42:56.160 a very difficult play in terms of its plot and 1:42:56.280 --> 1:42:58.000 it kind of takes place all over the world, and 1:42:58.080 --> 1:43:00.240 you know, you have to have a very broad vision. 1:43:00.040 --> 1:43:02.040 And on how to bring it to a stage for 1:43:02.479 --> 1:43:04.759 a contemporary audience. But it was amazing. 1:43:05.479 --> 1:43:07.920 And I met my boyfriend who's now my husband, and 1:43:08.000 --> 1:43:10.200 he was had a series in Canada and a series 1:43:10.240 --> 1:43:12.160 in la and he was like, you should totally come 1:43:12.200 --> 1:43:14.360 down to Los Angeles. He's like, you are, like, you 1:43:14.439 --> 1:43:17.080 are so hot right now, there's no reason. He's like, 1:43:17.200 --> 1:43:20.519 get your papers. And I got my papers really easily 1:43:20.880 --> 1:43:23.200 on my work visa, and he was like, come down. 1:43:24.000 --> 1:43:26.519 And I was really lucky because you know, he was like, 1:43:26.600 --> 1:43:28.639 you can stay with me, and you know he has 1:43:28.800 --> 1:43:31.519 he had friends, and I had like a I had 1:43:31.600 --> 1:43:35.840 a whole system set up thanks to him, obviously, so 1:43:35.920 --> 1:43:37.240 I'm not saying, like I just came down. 1:43:37.560 --> 1:43:38.479 I was on a whim. 1:43:38.520 --> 1:43:40.120 I mean, it wasn't sure if the relationship was going 1:43:40.200 --> 1:43:43.840 to work out, but it was, you know, he sort 1:43:43.880 --> 1:43:45.559 of was like, you should be doing this here. 1:43:45.720 --> 1:43:48.000 There's no reason why you can't do it here. And 1:43:48.760 --> 1:43:51.400 then it's just then I booked twenty four. That was 1:43:51.439 --> 1:43:52.760 my first job here, and. 1:43:52.800 --> 1:43:54.439 It was supposed to be two episodes and ended up 1:43:54.439 --> 1:43:55.600 being twenty one episodes. 1:43:55.880 --> 1:43:59.120 Helly, and that was a hot show and that was such. 1:43:59.320 --> 1:44:01.679 That was one of those like Law and Order, where 1:44:01.760 --> 1:44:03.960 like you're such a fan of the show and then 1:44:04.000 --> 1:44:06.840 you get on the show and you're like every day 1:44:06.840 --> 1:44:12.120 you just have to conceal your own fangirlness, like truly, 1:44:12.400 --> 1:44:12.760 like I. 1:44:13.240 --> 1:44:16.439 And I came late to twenty four, and my husband 1:44:16.560 --> 1:44:17.360 was on twenty four too. 1:44:18.000 --> 1:44:20.559 He was more so Brian. He was Chloe's ex husband 1:44:20.560 --> 1:44:22.240 on the show. He's like the computer genius, but we 1:44:22.320 --> 1:44:23.160 weren't in the same season. 1:44:23.520 --> 1:44:25.120 We're friends with Mary Lynn. 1:44:26.040 --> 1:44:28.560 Oh my god, she's so her of course, because you 1:44:28.560 --> 1:44:33.360 guys are comedians. Yeah, she cracky, me so funny and like, 1:44:33.520 --> 1:44:36.000 I don't know why I went on our Instagram the 1:44:36.040 --> 1:44:39.320 other day and I saw the latest stuff she's been doing, 1:44:39.360 --> 1:44:41.840 and I'm like, she's wild. 1:44:42.200 --> 1:44:46.920 So let's talk about this SVU episode this Obviously we've 1:44:47.000 --> 1:44:49.160 talked a lot about how you've done so much, so 1:44:49.240 --> 1:44:52.640 many different things, and but this probably came when you 1:44:52.720 --> 1:44:55.400 were pretty well established in your career, right this cause is. 1:44:55.400 --> 1:44:57.439 Twenty one, yeah, twenty nineteen. 1:44:57.600 --> 1:44:57.760 Yeah. 1:44:58.400 --> 1:45:01.600 So I just finished three seasons of this CBS procedural 1:45:01.680 --> 1:45:05.560 called Ransom, and I had just come back from Budapest 1:45:05.640 --> 1:45:07.559 where we shot seasons two and three, and I had 1:45:07.600 --> 1:45:11.200 had my second child on that show. And I really 1:45:11.320 --> 1:45:14.240 have to say, as amazing as that show was, being 1:45:14.360 --> 1:45:16.680 a new mother and my son was also living with 1:45:16.760 --> 1:45:20.320 me in Budapest, going to the British International School, and 1:45:20.479 --> 1:45:22.080 my mom was with me, and I had a nanny 1:45:22.120 --> 1:45:23.920 and my husband was going back and forth, and even 1:45:24.000 --> 1:45:27.560 with all of that amazing support, working eighteen hours a 1:45:27.640 --> 1:45:31.000 day and having a newborn was exhausting. And like all 1:45:31.080 --> 1:45:33.240 of my co stars were going out and having a 1:45:33.280 --> 1:45:35.280 great time, and on the weekends, I would be at 1:45:35.360 --> 1:45:38.400 like some trampoline park with my son and you know, 1:45:38.800 --> 1:45:40.840 pumping and trying to be down with my baby and 1:45:40.920 --> 1:45:43.280 see my mother and it was like and I'm like, wow, 1:45:43.479 --> 1:45:44.519 I really need. 1:45:46.160 --> 1:45:48.720 To do something by myself, I know. 1:45:48.880 --> 1:45:53.479 And this offer came for Sbu and it came literally 1:45:53.720 --> 1:45:56.120 a month after I got back, and normally I'd try 1:45:56.160 --> 1:45:57.680 to take like a couple of months off because it 1:45:57.760 --> 1:46:00.479 had been like three years of this work. I am 1:46:00.840 --> 1:46:03.960 such a huge fan. That's like my favorite SPU out 1:46:04.000 --> 1:46:06.080 of all the loan and orders. I've been literally watching 1:46:06.160 --> 1:46:08.280 it since the moment it came on. It made me 1:46:08.400 --> 1:46:10.960 want to get I still would take a regular job 1:46:11.280 --> 1:46:14.479 on a Dick Wolf procedural to Net Like now, if 1:46:14.479 --> 1:46:16.639 you offered it to me, I think it's just the best. 1:46:16.960 --> 1:46:18.760 I actually like one of those actors who like that 1:46:18.880 --> 1:46:22.400 kind of work. And it came up and I'm like, 1:46:24.120 --> 1:46:28.080 twelve days in New York City, Yes, sign me up 1:46:28.840 --> 1:46:33.839 on a show that I adore in its twentieth season. 1:46:34.360 --> 1:46:37.519 Like it was like a gift from the gods, it 1:46:37.640 --> 1:46:40.280 was like, and they pay so well, you know, it 1:46:40.400 --> 1:46:42.120 was such a lovely, handsome offer. 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:46.040 So I was like, oh, so happy. 1:46:46.280 --> 1:46:48.720 But it's like such a big role. I mean, it's 1:46:48.800 --> 1:46:51.040 like there's a lot of people that like get offered 1:46:51.080 --> 1:46:52.679 the big sort of guest star role and they don't 1:46:52.680 --> 1:46:55.280 really pop up until like later in the episode, but 1:46:55.479 --> 1:46:56.880 like you're throughout, like. 1:46:56.960 --> 1:46:59.960 This is a really really big part, and it goes 1:47:00.120 --> 1:47:02.760 back and forth. It really keeps the audience getting the 1:47:02.840 --> 1:47:03.240 whole time. 1:47:03.439 --> 1:47:07.000 Yeah, I hadn't seen that episode since it aired, and 1:47:07.080 --> 1:47:09.040 even when it aired, I remember I was really sick 1:47:09.040 --> 1:47:10.320 and I was like, oh, I think I'm on TV 1:47:10.400 --> 1:47:12.320 and I barely watched it. I saw whatever it was 1:47:12.360 --> 1:47:14.800 an ADR, So I just rewatched it this morning in 1:47:14.880 --> 1:47:17.400 anticipation of talking to you lovely ladies. 1:47:17.640 --> 1:47:20.360 And you're right, I mean so much. I was like, wow, 1:47:20.360 --> 1:47:21.519 I'm not like this quite a lot. 1:47:21.720 --> 1:47:23.720 I was like, you got to be the body on 1:47:23.800 --> 1:47:26.479 the ground, you're wheeled out in a stretcher, you're in 1:47:26.520 --> 1:47:29.160 the hospital, the court room, the lesbian bar, you're doing 1:47:29.240 --> 1:47:31.280 a pre taped confrontation with the teens. 1:47:31.360 --> 1:47:34.360 I mean my I'm doing yeah totally, I'm in the office, 1:47:34.479 --> 1:47:36.360 like you see so many It's such Actually, it was 1:47:36.400 --> 1:47:40.760 such a really well fleshed out character for a forty 1:47:40.800 --> 1:47:43.280 two minute show that has a lot of characters. Yeah, 1:47:43.960 --> 1:47:46.519 and also on my episode, like Titus Wheeliver was in it, 1:47:46.880 --> 1:47:49.519 Peter Gallagher, Richard Kine, like I'm in the trailer with 1:47:49.560 --> 1:47:53.040 Titus and Richard Kine. I'm just like, hey, guys cool, 1:47:53.439 --> 1:47:58.280 I'm min cool, but oh my god, I'm a bosh. Yeah, 1:47:58.760 --> 1:48:01.080 Richard Kine, I love him, Like it was just it 1:48:01.160 --> 1:48:04.040 was such an all star episode. And I love Peter Gallagher. 1:48:04.120 --> 1:48:06.320 We worked together on COVID Affairs. It was so great 1:48:06.320 --> 1:48:06.719 to see. 1:48:06.640 --> 1:48:09.320 Him again and have scenes with him. Philip Winchester and 1:48:09.400 --> 1:48:10.960 I did Chicago p D together. 1:48:11.320 --> 1:48:14.120 We've had him Philip, he's great. Oh he's the best. 1:48:14.360 --> 1:48:17.040 And Philip did a pilot with Carlo Okay season the 1:48:17.040 --> 1:48:21.120 studio watching the World Cup, but uh so he so 1:48:21.280 --> 1:48:23.360 he knew Carlo first and then he met me and 1:48:23.479 --> 1:48:25.479 he was like so so it was so nice that 1:48:25.560 --> 1:48:27.479 we got to work together again too, Like it was 1:48:27.520 --> 1:48:31.080 such a such a perfect you know, He's like, yeah, 1:48:31.120 --> 1:48:32.800 you're right, guest stars, you'd never know what it's going 1:48:32.880 --> 1:48:34.120 to be, you never know how it's gonna end up 1:48:34.120 --> 1:48:35.800 in the edit. You know all of those things, but 1:48:35.920 --> 1:48:40.040 this was such a perfect, lovely role. But you know, 1:48:40.160 --> 1:48:44.599 it was just this amazing, amazing It was such a gift. 1:48:44.760 --> 1:48:47.840 And also I remember I had like I wouldn't work 1:48:47.920 --> 1:48:49.519 full days or I would have like days off. 1:48:49.560 --> 1:48:52.200 So I saw like four plays and then my husband 1:48:52.280 --> 1:48:53.479 came down for one weekend. 1:48:53.760 --> 1:48:55.479 He came down for his birthday weekend, and we saw 1:48:55.560 --> 1:48:57.960 Glinda Jackson du king Lear and we had like like 1:48:58.120 --> 1:49:00.720 thirty six hours in New York together, like just the 1:49:00.800 --> 1:49:03.280 two of us, like as like new parents. Like it 1:49:03.400 --> 1:49:06.040 was like it might have been like three thy six 1:49:06.160 --> 1:49:08.720 hundred hours. Like it was so amazing, you know, like 1:49:08.880 --> 1:49:11.640 it was just such a I was going to like 1:49:11.720 --> 1:49:16.040 hot yoga and like running into like Brooklyn on the bridge, 1:49:16.160 --> 1:49:16.840 and I mean I just. 1:49:16.880 --> 1:49:20.360 Remember being like, wow, this is so restorative. Even though 1:49:20.360 --> 1:49:24.120 it was hard work. It was so nourishing. 1:49:25.160 --> 1:49:27.800 You're right, because it is an intense schedule. But then 1:49:27.880 --> 1:49:30.000 to have these like few days off too, because there 1:49:30.160 --> 1:49:32.959 was this other like other storylines kind of have another. 1:49:32.880 --> 1:49:35.640 Also like as a mother, you know, like you you 1:49:35.720 --> 1:49:37.920 have time off and then it's just you. I mean, 1:49:38.000 --> 1:49:40.600 you can really juice your time. I'd like go and 1:49:40.840 --> 1:49:42.920 go get rush tickets, go see a show, go to dinner, 1:49:43.040 --> 1:49:45.320 do this. I'd all like my restaurants planned out. I 1:49:45.479 --> 1:49:48.160 ate such good food, you know, like I was really 1:49:48.400 --> 1:49:50.439 maximizing my time. 1:49:51.000 --> 1:49:55.160 So watching the episode, what like comes to mind that 1:49:55.280 --> 1:49:58.439 you were like, oh, like any stories or memories outside 1:49:58.479 --> 1:50:00.040 memories come flooding. 1:49:59.720 --> 1:50:03.200 Back, I remember. So yeah, it was great. 1:50:03.280 --> 1:50:05.720 So with Philip So he was really good friends with 1:50:05.880 --> 1:50:08.320 this actor named Sully who was on I think the 1:50:08.360 --> 1:50:10.599 show was on called blind Spot. 1:50:11.120 --> 1:50:13.439 Yeah that it was an NBC show. So the male 1:50:13.560 --> 1:50:14.280 lead of that and. 1:50:14.360 --> 1:50:17.439 Philip had done a show together in South Africa weirdly 1:50:17.560 --> 1:50:19.479 with the same showrunner that I did the show in 1:50:19.520 --> 1:50:21.920 Budapest with Wow, So we all knew Frank Spot. 1:50:22.040 --> 1:50:23.559 It's who was like the show runner of the Xpos. 1:50:23.760 --> 1:50:24.599 We all knew Frank. 1:50:24.920 --> 1:50:28.280 So so when Carlo came for the weekend, Philip was like, 1:50:28.320 --> 1:50:29.439 oh my god, Carlo's here, Like. 1:50:29.439 --> 1:50:30.240 We have to all hang out. 1:50:30.320 --> 1:50:33.200 So we ended up going out with him, and Philip's 1:50:33.240 --> 1:50:35.759 family wasn't there, but we ended up going with Philip, Sully, 1:50:35.840 --> 1:50:38.560 Carlo and I and we were on the patio of 1:50:38.640 --> 1:50:41.360 restoration hardware like that one in Chelsea I think it is, 1:50:41.520 --> 1:50:44.720 or in Soho, I can't remember, and we just had 1:50:44.760 --> 1:50:45.639 the best time. 1:50:45.720 --> 1:50:47.040 And they were filmed so weird. 1:50:47.080 --> 1:50:49.840 They were like filming some kind of like I guess 1:50:49.920 --> 1:50:52.240 commercial for the patio, but they kept having a camera 1:50:52.320 --> 1:50:54.400 and the camera was like kept coming to us and 1:50:54.520 --> 1:50:55.040 our table. 1:50:55.280 --> 1:50:58.080 All the professional actors. I'm sure they were like, let's see. 1:50:57.920 --> 1:51:00.600 If you can get and so exactly, and so like 1:51:00.720 --> 1:51:02.080 we kind of were like why are you pointing the 1:51:02.120 --> 1:51:04.120 camera atus and the end up like comping our entire 1:51:04.800 --> 1:51:07.599 day there and we were there for like six hours, 1:51:07.680 --> 1:51:10.479 like the bill would have been astronomical. So that was 1:51:10.640 --> 1:51:12.599 that was fun, and then we went into his place 1:51:12.680 --> 1:51:14.160 afterwards after we saw King Leir. 1:51:14.600 --> 1:51:16.840 You know, we talked to so many different actors that 1:51:16.960 --> 1:51:19.320 different and they did SVW at like different points in 1:51:19.400 --> 1:51:22.200 their career. But I wonder if it's because you've had 1:51:22.200 --> 1:51:24.040 all this experience that you were able to do this 1:51:24.160 --> 1:51:27.040 big part but then also enjoy your life here, because 1:51:27.120 --> 1:51:29.080 like some people go there right away and they're so 1:51:29.320 --> 1:51:32.400 stressed or like it just feels awesome them that you 1:51:32.439 --> 1:51:35.960 were able to have fun while also doing such. 1:51:35.800 --> 1:51:37.120 A good, very heavy. 1:51:37.680 --> 1:51:41.280 Yeah, it's so so controversial, Like. 1:51:41.280 --> 1:51:42.760 I knew it was controversial at the time, but now 1:51:42.840 --> 1:51:43.920 it was controversial was. 1:51:43.920 --> 1:51:46.320 Twenty nineteen, and like it's only become more. But the 1:51:46.360 --> 1:51:48.120 show is always ahead of its time and that kind 1:51:48.160 --> 1:51:50.439 of stuff. Like the show is always like pointing out 1:51:50.479 --> 1:51:54.160 stuff that's like like they did episodes about Jeffrey Epstein, 1:51:54.280 --> 1:51:56.960 like before that was even a commonplace like rumor that 1:51:57.120 --> 1:52:00.320 was like everybody's you know, but yes, I was like 1:52:00.520 --> 1:52:02.160 what Lisa is saying is like most of the people 1:52:02.200 --> 1:52:04.200 we talked to her like, well, I got the gig 1:52:04.439 --> 1:52:06.720 like the day before and I like flew to New 1:52:06.800 --> 1:52:09.160 York and I was like memorizing, memorizing, So it's like 1:52:09.800 --> 1:52:12.920 you able to memorize this massive part. 1:52:12.920 --> 1:52:15.080 And then still go catch the Yeah, that's easy. I 1:52:15.200 --> 1:52:16.240 do a soap oper Yeah. 1:52:16.280 --> 1:52:20.120 Yeah, it's like the easiest thing in the world is memorizing. 1:52:20.200 --> 1:52:21.880 Making it good is something everybody that. 1:52:21.920 --> 1:52:24.639 We talked to it does the soaps is like they're like, yeah, 1:52:24.640 --> 1:52:26.479 have a walk in talks and all that stuff. Like 1:52:26.600 --> 1:52:29.160 it's yet that it's like, what was that thing on Hacks? 1:52:29.200 --> 1:52:31.519 When did you see that episode where like his mom 1:52:31.640 --> 1:52:32.800 is on the soap and he's like, I need you 1:52:32.840 --> 1:52:34.519 to play blah blah blutch more. She's like, honey, I'm 1:52:34.520 --> 1:52:35.720 on a soap. I did blah blah blah. 1:52:35.800 --> 1:52:38.200 Yeah. Yeah. When she's in the Fatty eyar Buckle movie, 1:52:38.680 --> 1:52:42.200 ye movie, that's it. It's such a great it's so true. 1:52:42.240 --> 1:52:42.400 Though. 1:52:43.600 --> 1:52:45.599 No, while I got some advanced notice and I got 1:52:45.640 --> 1:52:48.200 the script and yeah, I and my husband asked me. 1:52:48.479 --> 1:52:50.400 I was watching it this morning while I was working 1:52:50.400 --> 1:52:52.720 out when the elliptical, and you know, my husband kind 1:52:52.760 --> 1:52:54.439 of like saw the iPad and he was like, what 1:52:54.520 --> 1:52:56.240 are you doing. I'm like, well, I'm rewatching my episodes 1:52:56.280 --> 1:52:58.479 when we did this podcast today. And I was like, 1:52:58.560 --> 1:53:00.920 you know, this is like a very controversial character. And 1:53:01.000 --> 1:53:03.559 he's like, would you play that same role today? 1:53:04.080 --> 1:53:04.240 Oh? 1:53:04.760 --> 1:53:09.120 Great question, thank you, thank you, Carlo so and I 1:53:09.360 --> 1:53:11.200 and I thought about it, and I was like, you 1:53:11.320 --> 1:53:17.160 know what, I would because you know, at the very least, 1:53:17.920 --> 1:53:21.960 art should be entertaining, right, and at the very most 1:53:22.200 --> 1:53:26.680 it should be thought provoking. And I think that one 1:53:26.720 --> 1:53:29.560 of the wonderful things about being an actor is you 1:53:29.760 --> 1:53:36.960 can play people that are this is particularly a very topical, 1:53:37.280 --> 1:53:39.680 you know subject, but you know, you play people that 1:53:39.920 --> 1:53:43.360 show different points of view and a different side and 1:53:43.479 --> 1:53:48.880 a different perspective, and and it should encourage discussion and 1:53:49.040 --> 1:53:54.840 incite thought like that's that's that's good writing in my opinion, right, 1:53:56.360 --> 1:53:59.080 And of course, you know, uh, and I never received 1:53:59.240 --> 1:54:03.200 any weird backlash or anything like that when I played 1:54:03.200 --> 1:54:05.559 the role at all or when it came out, I mean, 1:54:05.640 --> 1:54:06.320 not that I'm aware of. 1:54:06.840 --> 1:54:08.920 But now I go online in There's Lifes. 1:54:11.280 --> 1:54:14.360 But but but and I knew what I was doing 1:54:14.400 --> 1:54:17.920 at the time was totally controversial, right, But I also 1:54:18.000 --> 1:54:20.280 was so excited, like this is such a three dimensional character. 1:54:20.360 --> 1:54:23.560 We have, like a woman who found faith later in 1:54:23.640 --> 1:54:29.120 her life, who serves her city and country, who has 1:54:29.200 --> 1:54:33.480 a secret that you know, about her sexuality that completely 1:54:33.720 --> 1:54:36.520 goes against everything she's ever been raised and her faith, 1:54:37.120 --> 1:54:40.000 you know, who was in a very contentious position professionally, 1:54:40.320 --> 1:54:42.400 Like I found it to be such a rich role. 1:54:42.480 --> 1:54:45.280 I didn't even look at the optics of it. I 1:54:45.400 --> 1:54:49.920 looked at this like very multidimensional, layered woman. 1:54:50.480 --> 1:54:52.000 Yeah, and she's. 1:54:51.840 --> 1:54:54.840 Also she's also sort of playing with that thing that 1:54:55.080 --> 1:54:59.640 we were just I think like the fact that she 1:54:59.880 --> 1:55:02.840 was a little bit baiting the media and stuff, you know, 1:55:03.000 --> 1:55:05.120 Like she was like, this is how this works, this 1:55:05.280 --> 1:55:06.240 is how this game works. 1:55:06.320 --> 1:55:08.320 Like being in politics. He's putting on a little bit 1:55:08.360 --> 1:55:08.720 of a show. 1:55:08.760 --> 1:55:10.520 Politicians do now, are you kidding me? 1:55:10.760 --> 1:55:11.560 They all do it. 1:55:12.160 --> 1:55:12.760 They all do it. 1:55:12.800 --> 1:55:15.200 It's like an actressaying, oh, I've never googled myself. 1:55:15.000 --> 1:55:17.880 Like right, and Asians have always done that, but it's 1:55:17.960 --> 1:55:21.720 like this is so specifically in like the TMZ world 1:55:21.800 --> 1:55:24.360 of like confrontations and how are we editing things and 1:55:24.440 --> 1:55:25.960 how are we making things still. 1:55:25.920 --> 1:55:26.680 On social media? 1:55:26.680 --> 1:55:27.000 Amazing. 1:55:27.080 --> 1:55:30.800 It's it's six years old and it's still so relevant, 1:55:30.840 --> 1:55:33.560 and that is like, that is that is the genius 1:55:33.600 --> 1:55:35.760 of Dick Wolf and the people that he employs. And 1:55:35.800 --> 1:55:37.400 you know, I've done a couple of his shows, and 1:55:37.520 --> 1:55:40.640 same with the fashion, Like he's very particular about men's 1:55:40.680 --> 1:55:43.240 suits and the way women dress because he's like, I 1:55:43.400 --> 1:55:46.040 want people to look at this and never think, oh, 1:55:46.120 --> 1:55:48.839 this was twenty nineteen. I wanted to always feel timeless 1:55:48.880 --> 1:55:51.560 and fluid in the way it looks because what I'm 1:55:51.600 --> 1:55:55.120 writing transcends time. It's always going to be top called. 1:55:55.240 --> 1:55:56.880 And he'd explained that to us, you know. 1:55:57.200 --> 1:55:59.280 Yeah, like we can really only time the up, but 1:55:59.360 --> 1:56:01.760 we can really He placed the episodes in time based 1:56:01.760 --> 1:56:04.840 on Olivia's hair, like she has different haircuts, but like 1:56:05.320 --> 1:56:10.240 total kind of the same wardrobe almost the one has hayone. 1:56:09.840 --> 1:56:10.440 Has the same. 1:56:10.760 --> 1:56:10.960 Yeah. 1:56:11.280 --> 1:56:14.040 And when I did Chicago p D, they were like 1:56:14.160 --> 1:56:16.360 talking about like the look of my character. And they're 1:56:16.440 --> 1:56:19.360 like they went through all these different mastinations, like they 1:56:19.400 --> 1:56:21.320 were so so hair and this and that, and like 1:56:21.360 --> 1:56:23.640 I get whatever, it's a TV show and like network 1:56:23.720 --> 1:56:26.040 exactly is. But like they were like, no, Dick likes 1:56:26.080 --> 1:56:29.320 it up. Yeah, wear your hair up now, that's that's 1:56:29.400 --> 1:56:31.040 that's your thing, and like and I was like, oh, 1:56:31.120 --> 1:56:32.480 this is good, and they were like the hair people 1:56:32.520 --> 1:56:33.640 like this is going to be your look now for 1:56:33.760 --> 1:56:34.560 eighty percent of it. 1:56:34.880 --> 1:56:37.880 You know, we talk about the wardrobe so much and 1:56:38.040 --> 1:56:41.480 like their outerwear, you do. Yeah, I were really obsessed 1:56:41.720 --> 1:56:45.400 because of all the choices, but I never clocked the timelessness. 1:56:46.360 --> 1:56:49.600 No, No, that's the particularly with the men's suits. He's 1:56:49.800 --> 1:56:51.760 very particular, Like Philip put to me about that all 1:56:51.800 --> 1:56:53.920 the time. How like where they break, where the pant 1:56:54.000 --> 1:56:56.080 like breaks against the shoe and like all this kind 1:56:56.080 --> 1:56:58.320 of stuff, Like he doesn't want anything trendy. 1:56:58.520 --> 1:57:01.680 He doesn't want anything like cops are really not going 1:57:01.760 --> 1:57:04.640 to be on trend. I feel not to not to yeah, 1:57:04.960 --> 1:57:09.000 you know, like detectives and lawyers. I mean later when 1:57:09.200 --> 1:57:11.640 Rooula Sparza is on the show, I would say he 1:57:11.760 --> 1:57:14.920 kind of like spruces it up a little bit, but like, yeah, it's. 1:57:14.880 --> 1:57:16.560 Never that was more his character. 1:57:16.680 --> 1:57:16.840 Yeah. 1:57:17.000 --> 1:57:19.480 Yeah, yeah, that's such a good that's such a good 1:57:19.800 --> 1:57:21.280 insight that I Yeah, I totally never. 1:57:21.200 --> 1:57:23.080 Thought of that, but that's why he does it. So 1:57:23.320 --> 1:57:25.080 they can play forever and no one's ever going to 1:57:25.120 --> 1:57:25.400 feel it. 1:57:25.560 --> 1:57:27.520 Yeah, that's really cool that he was on set for 1:57:27.600 --> 1:57:28.600 so long in Chicago. 1:57:28.920 --> 1:57:30.080 He was on set for Chicago. 1:57:30.240 --> 1:57:37.720 Yeah, but but SVU, it was the showrunners last season 1:57:37.880 --> 1:57:40.520 that I was doing. Then a new showrunner came came. 1:57:40.400 --> 1:57:43.160 In, so you probably got Warren light maybe No, it 1:57:43.280 --> 1:57:45.680 was pre war pre Warren coming back because look at 1:57:45.680 --> 1:57:46.440 the time, the. 1:57:46.440 --> 1:57:50.840 Showrunner from Chicago Justice. Yeah, it's it was the showrunner 1:57:50.880 --> 1:57:53.520 from Chicago Justice. Justice got canceled and he came to 1:57:53.680 --> 1:57:56.760 SVU for like a year, and then Warren came back, 1:57:57.440 --> 1:58:00.080 so he was he was around. But other than the 1:58:00.160 --> 1:58:02.760 director had directed a whole bunch of SVUS. But you 1:58:02.840 --> 1:58:04.280 know what, it was amazing because like a lot of 1:58:04.320 --> 1:58:08.200 people defer to Marishka, she's definitely the boss of that 1:58:08.280 --> 1:58:11.840 show and rightfully so she was not wrong. Yeah, like 1:58:11.960 --> 1:58:14.200 you know, but she did it in a really respectful way. 1:58:14.240 --> 1:58:16.240 She wouldn't like overstep. She'd go and tell the director 1:58:16.360 --> 1:58:18.160 something and then the director would kind of repeat it, 1:58:18.320 --> 1:58:21.640 like she'd go through the proper channels. But she has 1:58:22.320 --> 1:58:26.880 given her life to that show and she is amazing 1:58:27.000 --> 1:58:27.200 on it. 1:58:27.720 --> 1:58:30.680 And one of the like important themes throughout sview that 1:58:30.800 --> 1:58:35.880 I not that I like, but there are no perfect victims. No, 1:58:36.360 --> 1:58:39.600 that is something I thought was important in this episode 1:58:39.640 --> 1:58:42.840 as well, like your character was victimized no matter what 1:58:43.000 --> 1:58:44.680 else is going on, and she was hiding things. 1:58:44.920 --> 1:58:47.680 She was hiding things about herself, and it's like, where 1:58:47.800 --> 1:58:50.120 is the line, like if you are hiding things about yourself, 1:58:50.240 --> 1:58:51.879 should you not be believed about everything? 1:58:52.120 --> 1:58:52.320 Yeah? 1:58:52.840 --> 1:58:56.440 Right, Like that's the thing, right, you know? Oh yes, 1:58:56.600 --> 1:58:59.120 I called the media. I my character called the media. 1:58:59.360 --> 1:59:03.040 Instigated that boy and that protest went head on for 1:59:03.280 --> 1:59:05.440 clickbait to further my agenda. 1:59:05.520 --> 1:59:08.680 Does that mean I an engineered everything else? 1:59:09.760 --> 1:59:12.560 And it's great, it's great to plant that doubt in 1:59:13.360 --> 1:59:17.560 the story, right because the truth is, that's very realistic, 1:59:17.640 --> 1:59:19.640 that's very believable, that would happen today. 1:59:19.920 --> 1:59:22.600 And I really liked also that, like at the end, 1:59:22.760 --> 1:59:24.760 your parents were like, we love you about it because 1:59:24.760 --> 1:59:28.640 we've seen other storylines on su where like people from 1:59:28.720 --> 1:59:31.880 religious backgrounds, even if they're the victim, their parents are like, 1:59:32.040 --> 1:59:34.080 you're a disgrace, goodbye, You're out of our lives. And 1:59:34.120 --> 1:59:37.320 I love that, Like your parents were so supportive of you, 1:59:37.440 --> 1:59:39.600 even though even at the end someone comes and throws 1:59:39.640 --> 1:59:41.240 a freaking rock at you. How was shooting that? 1:59:41.680 --> 1:59:43.480 How did you guys? Chrarera Carlo was like. 1:59:43.760 --> 1:59:44.920 Didn't someone throw a brick at you? 1:59:45.000 --> 1:59:45.600 With you? Like? 1:59:46.600 --> 1:59:47.400 And I was like, why are you? 1:59:48.400 --> 1:59:50.160 I couldn't tell what it was, but it looked like 1:59:50.320 --> 1:59:50.680 it hurt. 1:59:50.800 --> 1:59:55.120 It's a brick, a brick, but it wasn't really, But yeah, 1:59:55.120 --> 1:59:56.080 but I think it was, like, yeah, it was. 1:59:56.120 --> 1:59:59.200 Like an episode you're supposed to like you're supposed to 1:59:59.280 --> 2:00:02.440 like stone the right like in the Quran. 2:00:02.560 --> 2:00:05.320 SOA, yeah, that was uh. 2:00:06.280 --> 2:00:07.840 I mean I thought that that was. 2:00:10.600 --> 2:00:13.400 You know, I like the fact that they showed the 2:00:13.480 --> 2:00:15.680 parents and then that at least there was some balance 2:00:15.800 --> 2:00:16.000 to it. 2:00:16.200 --> 2:00:20.080 But the truth is, you know, I've played I'm not Muslim. 2:00:20.120 --> 2:00:22.280 I've played many Muslims on TV, and anytime I do 2:00:22.440 --> 2:00:24.680 play one, I always try to make a conscientious effort 2:00:24.720 --> 2:00:30.000 of like dealienating this religion and culture to the Western media, 2:00:30.040 --> 2:00:32.440 which is really based on like faith and love and 2:00:32.520 --> 2:00:36.840 devotion and not all of those patriarchal misogynistic things that 2:00:36.920 --> 2:00:39.560 were really imposed by men, not in the religion at all. 2:00:40.080 --> 2:00:42.520 Right, it's like society has done that. 2:00:42.680 --> 2:00:45.800 It's not in the in the Quran like that, even 2:00:45.840 --> 2:00:49.600 though Sharia law was not you know, it's been interpreted 2:00:49.640 --> 2:00:52.080 by a man to be that way. So I always 2:00:52.120 --> 2:00:54.200 try to, you know, kind of break the mold or 2:00:54.280 --> 2:00:56.720 like break that kind of stereotype. When I played these women, 2:00:56.800 --> 2:00:58.840 I thought Nola was such a great example of that 2:00:59.560 --> 2:01:01.560 to a degree. Right, of course, she had to hide 2:01:01.560 --> 2:01:05.760 who she was, but that's true of people many different 2:01:05.800 --> 2:01:09.040 situations and religions, right. But the thing at the end, 2:01:09.120 --> 2:01:11.600 it was for me personally a little bit or sit 2:01:11.680 --> 2:01:13.120 I'm like, oh, we have to show that kind of 2:01:13.280 --> 2:01:17.480 like animalistic side. But it was what propelled her husband, 2:01:17.560 --> 2:01:19.600 her ex husband, to raper, so I guess it was 2:01:19.720 --> 2:01:24.120 valid in the story, right, right. But yeah, I love 2:01:24.200 --> 2:01:27.160 any kind of action in TV shows though, so like, yeah, 2:01:27.280 --> 2:01:29.040 throw a rock at me, hit me with a car, 2:01:29.760 --> 2:01:33.960 let me hit someone. I'm fine with the mike artistically, 2:01:33.960 --> 2:01:35.000 I'm fine with it that way. 2:01:35.120 --> 2:01:39.040 Yeah, do you have any interest in like directing, writing 2:01:39.080 --> 2:01:42.200 and doing anything like that or not at all. I'm 2:01:42.240 --> 2:01:44.880 someone that would never want to direct ever. But you 2:01:45.040 --> 2:01:47.600 mentioned like Murska directing so thought. 2:01:47.440 --> 2:01:49.080 Out of Yeah, I mean I think that if you're 2:01:49.120 --> 2:01:50.760 on a show for that long, you should definitely be 2:01:52.240 --> 2:01:56.440 producing and directing for sure. For me, I actually just 2:01:56.640 --> 2:02:01.320 started my professional career as a writer a couple of 2:02:01.400 --> 2:02:03.400 years ago. I just sold a script to Hallmark. Oh 2:02:03.440 --> 2:02:07.200 my god, it was really big. Yeah, and now I'm 2:02:07.280 --> 2:02:14.920 in development with possibly another two ideas with them, and yeah, 2:02:15.040 --> 2:02:19.480 maybe three that that's been a really I mean, I'm 2:02:19.520 --> 2:02:22.400 a big rom com fan, like I love I'm not 2:02:22.560 --> 2:02:24.920 like a cinophile, right, I love everything, but I've always 2:02:24.920 --> 2:02:27.040 loved the wrong com and I've always loved the nineties 2:02:27.120 --> 2:02:29.040 rom com and I feel like no one really makes 2:02:29.080 --> 2:02:31.520 them anymore. And now we see them on m Ow's 2:02:31.560 --> 2:02:33.720 like that's what they've become. They don't really like they're 2:02:33.760 --> 2:02:36.400 not really those classic rom coms. Like, yes, we get 2:02:36.480 --> 2:02:38.760 some realm comms now, but they're way more comedic, or 2:02:38.800 --> 2:02:41.160 they're raunchy or this or that, which I love too, 2:02:41.880 --> 2:02:45.880 but those like days of Julia Roberts, Meg Ryan, you know, 2:02:46.040 --> 2:02:48.960 I just They really were a big part of my 2:02:50.200 --> 2:02:53.160 upbringing and really made me fall in love with acting 2:02:53.320 --> 2:02:56.280 and like I just always want to be that girl, 2:02:57.000 --> 2:02:59.520 and you know, I do them in the mows that 2:02:59.560 --> 2:03:02.440 I do. And then I was like, my manager was like, 2:03:02.680 --> 2:03:04.160 well you should just you know. It was of all 2:03:04.160 --> 2:03:05.880 these great ideas, you should just write one. I'm like, 2:03:05.920 --> 2:03:07.600 I can't just write one. What are you talking about 2:03:07.600 --> 2:03:08.240 to write one? 2:03:08.600 --> 2:03:09.120 Like what is this? 2:03:09.640 --> 2:03:11.280 And so it was like, well, just you know, so 2:03:11.400 --> 2:03:13.880 I kind of like came up with a few ideas 2:03:13.960 --> 2:03:16.080 and then we landed on one that really clicked with 2:03:16.640 --> 2:03:18.960 the executive the last Hallmark I did, and she green 2:03:19.000 --> 2:03:21.640 lit it and I wrote it and hopefully they'll make it. 2:03:22.520 --> 2:03:27.320 It's a Bollywood dance rom com because they've never done 2:03:27.360 --> 2:03:31.680 anything like that. Yeah. Yeah, it's like Honey meets like 2:03:31.760 --> 2:03:33.400 shall we Dance? Oh my kind of thing. 2:03:34.120 --> 2:03:36.160 I have a shall We Dance magnet. It's like a 2:03:36.240 --> 2:03:37.840 big deal in my family. 2:03:39.480 --> 2:03:41.600 Because so me, my mom and sister got to go 2:03:41.680 --> 2:03:43.680 to the Oprah Show and it was the shall We Dance? 2:03:43.720 --> 2:03:46.240 Episode and so it was like a big deal in 2:03:46.320 --> 2:03:48.800 our family and our One of our listeners made me 2:03:49.080 --> 2:03:51.840 a little VHS magnet of Shall We Dance? 2:03:52.160 --> 2:03:52.880 Shall We Dance? 2:03:53.080 --> 2:03:53.240 Yeah? 2:03:53.440 --> 2:03:55.400 Well I love that movie, and like I loved all 2:03:55.440 --> 2:03:57.520 those dance movies and I danced for ten years, so 2:03:57.960 --> 2:04:00.560 you know, I've always like that was such a big 2:04:00.600 --> 2:04:02.280 part of my life. And I was like, oh, well, 2:04:02.360 --> 2:04:04.440 let me do what what kind of unique spin can 2:04:04.480 --> 2:04:06.320 I give to it that they haven't seen yet? 2:04:06.560 --> 2:04:09.879 So I need to see a Bollywood rom common hallmark. 2:04:10.440 --> 2:04:12.560 This needs to happen so fun. 2:04:12.800 --> 2:04:13.920 Well, we'll definitely let you go. 2:04:14.120 --> 2:04:17.440 But your passion, yea so fun job in life is 2:04:17.640 --> 2:04:25.680 really it's been really a fun interview. She was delightful. 2:04:25.800 --> 2:04:29.920 I loved talking to her. What obsessed obsessed? I also 2:04:30.160 --> 2:04:34.200 just love people who can like obvious passion for their job. 2:04:34.240 --> 2:04:36.080 I mean, you have to be like a working actually 2:04:36.080 --> 2:04:39.640 it's like hard, but just has fun and likes everyone 2:04:39.760 --> 2:04:44.560 and connections and it's interested and got the elliptical or husband. 2:04:44.640 --> 2:04:47.080 She's making shrimp curry. I'm like, what the fuck? 2:04:47.960 --> 2:04:52.760 I can't I can't imagine, yes so much and just 2:04:52.920 --> 2:04:56.160 inspiring open calls like Shakespeare. 2:04:56.200 --> 2:04:59.480 I don't know, I'm obsessed with her. Yeah, she's still 2:04:59.640 --> 2:05:00.400 like she she said a lot. 2:05:00.440 --> 2:05:01.240 She has a lot of credits. 2:05:01.280 --> 2:05:02.600 Her husband has a lot of credits. 2:05:02.720 --> 2:05:05.960 They work in and they're doing there. If you're a 2:05:06.080 --> 2:05:10.080 gh person, if you're watching General Hospital, get on over there. 2:05:10.240 --> 2:05:13.560 What's the town that Pine Valleys where all my children is? 2:05:13.600 --> 2:05:17.000 What's the town the General Hospitals? And I totally forgot anyway, 2:05:17.400 --> 2:05:19.320 well yeah that and oh my god. 2:05:19.200 --> 2:05:21.760 So Catherine Blamford, there's like a clip of her on 2:05:21.960 --> 2:05:25.160 some podcasts but talking about what she did in the 2:05:25.280 --> 2:05:28.200 summer as like a kid, and so they would watch 2:05:28.400 --> 2:05:31.160 some show I don't know. Then they would watch Blues 2:05:31.240 --> 2:05:34.200 Clues and then they would watch Maury and I just thought, 2:05:34.280 --> 2:05:37.240 it's so funny being a child, cause like that is 2:05:37.640 --> 2:05:40.440 I watched more Arthur, but like to go from Blues 2:05:40.480 --> 2:05:43.120 Clues to Maury to Prices of Right, Price is Right? 2:05:43.520 --> 2:05:45.720 And then she said they would have Spaghettio's for breakfast, 2:05:45.920 --> 2:05:48.800 and just I saw another clip. I don't know, I 2:05:48.880 --> 2:05:51.400 have to like look more into the social scientist. But like, 2:05:51.680 --> 2:05:53.880 and I've been doing this on stage, so I was 2:05:54.000 --> 2:05:56.560 correct this whole time. But like millennials are the last 2:05:56.640 --> 2:05:59.880 generation with a touchstone to the old world and untell it. 2:06:00.120 --> 2:06:03.240 It's like since then everyone's gotten you know, unfortunately less 2:06:03.280 --> 2:06:07.600 smart yeah unless like less education, computers, technology, all of it. 2:06:08.080 --> 2:06:10.760 And it is like we just had such a special 2:06:11.080 --> 2:06:14.040 moment in time and I just feel really grateful. Yeah, 2:06:14.720 --> 2:06:17.800 that are we knew how to be bored. We were 2:06:17.880 --> 2:06:21.520 watched these different shows. We would run around outside and 2:06:21.960 --> 2:06:25.200 we weren't over scheduled, but we could do activities like 2:06:26.080 --> 2:06:29.640 I don't know, I just feel luckier and luckier every day. 2:06:29.960 --> 2:06:31.680 I mean I'm like, just yeah, like I didn't get 2:06:31.680 --> 2:06:33.080 a cell phone until I was twenty. I love that 2:06:33.200 --> 2:06:35.080 I didn't have social media, like none of that. I 2:06:35.200 --> 2:06:37.760 love that for until I was way more than. 2:06:37.760 --> 2:06:40.200 That because I'll talk to people at audio. They got 2:06:40.240 --> 2:06:42.600 a phone in fourth grade, you know what I mean. 2:06:45.280 --> 2:06:46.600 It's Port Charles by the way. 2:06:46.720 --> 2:06:49.280 Port Charles is the town from General Hospital, So if 2:06:49.280 --> 2:06:51.080 you want to go to Port Charles and check in 2:06:51.120 --> 2:06:52.280 on nasnine contractor. 2:06:52.400 --> 2:06:53.360 I also loved what. 2:06:53.400 --> 2:06:56.160 She said about her character and the complexities of it 2:06:56.240 --> 2:06:59.760 and how she played it and just it's really cool. 2:06:59.800 --> 2:07:00.640 I mean, the one thing. 2:07:00.840 --> 2:07:02.640 We just liked her so much, so we kept talking 2:07:02.640 --> 2:07:05.000 about her. But I wonder what her favorite SVU episodes 2:07:05.040 --> 2:07:07.680 are and stuff. So she was a fan of the show. 2:07:08.440 --> 2:07:10.240 Yeah, that's right. We did get to ask her. 2:07:11.040 --> 2:07:11.080 No. 2:07:11.280 --> 2:07:15.280 She was just so interesting. It had such like great answers. 2:07:15.360 --> 2:07:16.480 I was kind of enthralled. 2:07:16.640 --> 2:07:21.560 So it is all but this little kid, you know, 2:07:21.680 --> 2:07:24.120 he's gonna cause so many problems in the real world. 2:07:24.520 --> 2:07:27.560 His family's suing everything, winning all this money. You know, 2:07:27.760 --> 2:07:30.480 he's gonna be a right wing freak forever, and like 2:07:31.040 --> 2:07:32.680 it just fucking sucks. 2:07:32.880 --> 2:07:35.000 He'll run for office. This is what's gonna happen now. 2:07:35.080 --> 2:07:36.640 Is like if you're like a little shitty teen that 2:07:36.680 --> 2:07:39.440 gets involved in a viral moment, like Kyle Rittenhouse will 2:07:39.440 --> 2:07:40.360 probably run for office. 2:07:40.920 --> 2:07:47.920 This kid will run for office. Sucks, It really does suck. 2:07:48.000 --> 2:07:50.640 But also the media and how it can't be trusted 2:07:50.720 --> 2:07:53.040 even like we know this through all the research we do. 2:07:53.160 --> 2:07:55.400 It's like I could tell his sources real or not, 2:07:55.680 --> 2:07:59.400 how it's like, or like what the point of a 2:07:59.520 --> 2:08:02.080 sources because like for something we did, I was reading 2:08:02.120 --> 2:08:05.360 and it was A and E which and the way 2:08:05.600 --> 2:08:08.240 it's not it's not written as the news, and it 2:08:08.680 --> 2:08:11.200 is strange and all of it's strange and everything is 2:08:11.240 --> 2:08:14.280 twisted and you can't really believe anything anymore. You have 2:08:14.400 --> 2:08:16.800 to double check, which I hardly ever do unless it's 2:08:16.840 --> 2:08:19.760 for our job, and I don't know. It's just like 2:08:20.040 --> 2:08:22.320 this was complex and that they're talking about Israel like 2:08:22.480 --> 2:08:25.520 Palace side and that's whatever Ite says. It's like it's 2:08:25.600 --> 2:08:28.640 not a new issue. It has been around. Veet mentioned 2:08:28.680 --> 2:08:31.160 it back in the day, Like any time I hear 2:08:31.280 --> 2:08:35.880 it now in the past, it's like, fuck, like this 2:08:36.040 --> 2:08:39.200 has been such a background of our lives or forefront, 2:08:39.280 --> 2:08:42.680 depending on who you are and how connected you are. 2:08:42.800 --> 2:08:46.640 But like, yeah, and just the timelessness of the wardrobe 2:08:47.560 --> 2:08:50.960 is was such an important thing for me to hear 2:08:51.560 --> 2:08:54.000 because we always talk about the timelessness of the episodes 2:08:54.040 --> 2:08:56.200 and the issues, how they're ahead of time, but also 2:08:56.400 --> 2:09:00.280 like can be relevant today and how that's seen through 2:09:00.360 --> 2:09:01.440 the fucking clothes. 2:09:01.800 --> 2:09:05.600 I mean, I'm just like obsessed, I think. 2:09:05.680 --> 2:09:08.040 I mean, like we could still be amazed by this 2:09:08.160 --> 2:09:10.640 thing that we talk about NonStop all the time, and 2:09:10.880 --> 2:09:12.680 and you know what, Like I was kind of there's 2:09:12.680 --> 2:09:14.240 always a dread in me before I have to start 2:09:14.280 --> 2:09:17.800 doing research, and like then the moment I start. 2:09:17.880 --> 2:09:19.760 I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm obsessed, you know what I mean. 2:09:21.080 --> 2:09:22.920 Because I was in bed this morning, like starting to 2:09:22.960 --> 2:09:24.920 research stuff that I was like, wait, this is so 2:09:25.120 --> 2:09:27.280 fucking and then I ran downstairs and sat at the 2:09:27.320 --> 2:09:30.160 coffee shop just energized as fuck. It's just like getting 2:09:30.280 --> 2:09:33.360 started on work is always kind of hard, but it 2:09:33.640 --> 2:09:38.120 is cool to just be invigorated always by the episodes, 2:09:38.640 --> 2:09:41.680 what they talk about and how it's gotten worse. 2:09:41.760 --> 2:09:46.480 We didn't we didn't know that he would get another term. Yeah, yep. 2:09:46.880 --> 2:09:49.240 We thought we were just making TV about a moment 2:09:49.280 --> 2:09:51.920 in time, but then it repeated itself, and just seeing the. 2:09:51.960 --> 2:09:55.080 Red hat in the episode, it fucking fox me up. 2:09:55.320 --> 2:09:58.560 It fucks me up. Yeah, it's like, we'll be out 2:09:58.560 --> 2:10:00.120 of it soon. We'll be out of it soon. We 2:10:00.240 --> 2:10:02.800 have to just keep thinking that time does go by quickly. 2:10:04.400 --> 2:10:08.400 But let's get into our what would Sister Peg do 2:10:08.880 --> 2:10:12.920 this week's you know, our weekly segment where we direct 2:10:12.960 --> 2:10:18.560 you to an organization, a documentary, an article, something sorry 2:10:18.840 --> 2:10:21.360 and article one time I said a article and somebody 2:10:21.440 --> 2:10:24.520 got mad and article anything to give you more info 2:10:24.560 --> 2:10:26.480 about what we talked about in today's episode. And this 2:10:26.560 --> 2:10:29.280 week we wanted to point you to the organization Combatants 2:10:29.360 --> 2:10:34.600 for Peace. It is an egalitarian, binational, grassroots movement committed 2:10:34.640 --> 2:10:37.720 to nonviolent action against the Israeli occupation and all forms 2:10:37.760 --> 2:10:41.200 of violence in Israel and the Palestinian territories. It is 2:10:41.280 --> 2:10:43.840 the only peace group worldwide that was founded and run 2:10:43.880 --> 2:10:46.919 by ex combatants on both sides of an active conflict. 2:10:47.360 --> 2:10:51.240 They just celebrated twenty years since they were founded, so 2:10:51.760 --> 2:10:54.000 this is an organization that's been working for a long time. 2:10:54.280 --> 2:10:56.480 They have a lot of information on their page, ways 2:10:56.600 --> 2:10:59.920 to just learn more, ways to get involved, to don't 2:11:00.320 --> 2:11:03.360 so you can head over to cf piece dot org. 2:11:03.480 --> 2:11:08.720 That's for combatants for piece dot org. It's cfpiece dot 2:11:08.880 --> 2:11:10.880 org and that will be linked in our show notes 2:11:11.040 --> 2:11:13.320 and a story as always goes up to day this 2:11:13.400 --> 2:11:16.280 episode comes out, and then those stories get saved on 2:11:16.400 --> 2:11:18.720 our Instagram page, which is that's messed Up pod in 2:11:18.800 --> 2:11:20.440 our WWSPD highlights. 2:11:20.760 --> 2:11:23.960 Amazing. Thank you for that. And next week we'll be 2:11:24.000 --> 2:11:25.720 doing Swimming with the Sharks. 2:11:25.840 --> 2:11:29.160 Wonder who show ran that one from season twenty one, 2:11:29.400 --> 2:11:30.640 episode fifteen. 2:11:31.600 --> 2:11:36.360 So Love's back, baby Warren Light, see you guys next week. 2:11:36.440 --> 2:11:36.800 Bye bye. 2:11:45.360 --> 2:11:48.200 That's messed Up as an exactly right production. If you 2:11:48.280 --> 2:11:50.880 have compliments you'd like to give us, or episodes you'd 2:11:50.920 --> 2:11:52.760 like us to cover. 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