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Speaker 1: this is a maybe this is just maybe this is

424
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Speaker 1: a hit for somebody, you know what I'm saying, and

425
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 1: not not that generic is bad. Like I do think

426
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,920
Speaker 1: that a lot of time. In the songwriting world, we

427
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,440
Speaker 1: ever think it a little bit. We think that every

428
00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,440
Speaker 1: song has to be this amazing, insane concept. But sometimes

429
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,640
Speaker 1: people just want to feel good, you know what I'm saying,

430
00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 1: And and sometimes those songs don't. They don't have to be,

431
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, only life changing. They just need to be

432
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,760
Speaker 1: a good melody that you can dance to. So John

433
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,040
Speaker 1: Mayer did this with me and we were talking about

434
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,040
Speaker 1: that exactly, and that guy is is brilliant, brilliant. I

435
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,920
Speaker 1: think he's just he's just a different, all around guy,

436
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,119
Speaker 1: Like all of him is different, and it's amazing and

437
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 1: awful and awesome. I love him. And so he was

438
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,880
Speaker 1: talking about just that. He goes, you know, as a creator,

439
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,880
Speaker 1: we're constantly going, how do I make my next thing

440
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 1: really amazing, like stretch myself and be the most artistic,

441
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,400
Speaker 1: and he goes, in reality, you know what, people love

442
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 1: Waiting on the world to change, like one of my

443
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 1: most down the middle songs that was just like, Okay,

444
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 1: here's this he goes and people sing it and love it,

445
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 1: like in the mass amount of people. Love songs meant

446
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,119
Speaker 1: for the mass amount of people, And I thought, wow,

447
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 1: that's a really simple but that's really right for sure,

448
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 1: And as I'm going, oh no, what I can really

449
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 1: stretch It be funny when people think, yeah, for sure,

450
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,919
Speaker 1: I mean love that those jokes that much, and you

451
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 1: and you think, like a lot of time you're in

452
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 1: the writing room, you're going, oh my gosh, I think

453
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,200
Speaker 1: that this is one of the best songs I've ever written.

454
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 1: And you it out on stage and you play it

455
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 1: and nobody cares because it's just not the right setting,

456
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like there's there's certain settings

457
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: for songs, like if you were like a real intense,

458
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 1: amazing concept of a country song and it's really slow

459
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 1: and it's it's like some songs, some songs are meant

460
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 1: for the bluebird and some songs are meant for twenty people.

461
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 1: That makes sense, Like some songs people want to freaking

462
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 1: party and sing absolutely, and sometimes they want to send

463
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 1: the coffee house, yeah, or the Bluebird Cafe And yeah,

464
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 1: what is your biggest we'll call it a twenty five

465
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 1: person song. Which song do you play that in your

466
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 1: set that people are like, all right, let's go dude. Yeah,

467
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: Me and me and my radio team talk about this

468
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 1: quite a bit because in the country world, just like

469
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: every other world, everybody focuses so hard on number One's right,

470
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: and when you really pick apart what a number one means,

471
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,120
Speaker 1: there's a few different kinds of number ones. There's number

472
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: ones that just got to number one, there's number ones

473
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: that are reactive, and then there's songs that don't go

474
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: number one that may be because they were just terrible

475
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: or because they might have been too progressive for the times.

476
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: People didn't get it. Yeah, So like if you come

477
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: to my concert, we put it. We put a single

478
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,479
Speaker 1: out on the second record called Vacation, But dad at

479
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: thirty three on the chart. That was so how did

480
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 1: he do that? So because I thought this would be

481
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: your song. Yeah, And we've actually talked about this a

482
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: little bit too, where I thought the song kind of

483
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 1: got jobbed, dude, because I felt like there were just

484
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: some people, like in our industry, there were just some

485
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: older white men who who are like that in not country,

486
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, and and and there you know, there's

487
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: there's there's certain people that like certain stuff and that don't.

488
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,479
Speaker 1: And that's fine because everybody's entitled their own opinion. But

489
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 1: you come to my concert. This feels like it was

490
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: set number one for six weeks. Yeah, I love the song.

491
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 1: You played it on New Year's Eve and texting you

492
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 1: going to that songs a jam like I can't believe.

493
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: I think you came in on the show. I knew.

494
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: I love the song too, Yeah, for sure. And that's

495
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: that's a rocket hunt the shows it is. It feels

496
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: like it was a smash for forever. And I think

497
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: you have to I think those are things you have

498
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 1: to keep in mind while you writting songs. It's like, yeah,

499
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: you want hits, because hits, especially for new artists, in

500
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 1: my opinion, hits, hits are what take you to that

501
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: level where you can you can afford a couple of misses,

502
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Um, but you get a

503
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: couple of after you get a couple of hits. And Nancy,

504
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to have hits to make it. I'm

505
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: not saying that at all, because there's been artists that

506
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: haven't had number one's ever on the radio that are gigantic. Um,

507
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: But I think it's it's kind of a disservice as

508
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 1: a songwriter to go, well, I'm not going to put

509
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: this out because I don't think this is number one.

510
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: Because even if it does at ten and it was reactive,

511
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: that to me, that's that's far more of a win

512
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: than having a number one that didn't do anything. We

513
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: just did a whole show on this about number two's

514
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: that never hit number one and songs that have just

515
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: never hit number one that were massive for artists save

516
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: a Horse Shode of Cowboy Died at Like Yeah, there

517
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: are a lot of those songs that are like the

518
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: artists quintessential song. These artists have had fifteen number one,

519
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: but their quintessential song is not the number one song.

520
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: Keith Urban's been that guy. He's had massive songs that

521
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: did not hit number one. What is your ultimate coffeehouse

522
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: song like that? I've written trying to think. Probably this

523
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: song on my last record called kiss Me Like a Stranger.

524
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: Never in a million years would it be a hit

525
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: on radio, but it was just one that I just

526
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: I just felt the vibe. Who'd you write that? With

527
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Reynolds and Dave Barnes. I'm close with Dave. I

528
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: wrote with Dave last week and he's so funny, hilarious.

529
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: We're talking to him now about his podcast and he's

530
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: Dave and I get along really well, and he's an

531
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,239
Speaker 1: awesome artist. I remember David when he was, you know,

532
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: doing the Matt Works. Dude. When when I first met

533
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: Dave Barnes, the first thing I said, because I've been

534
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: a huge fan since like college, I was like, dude,

535
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: you don't know me, but the first time I ever

536
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: made out with somebody in college was too U on

537
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: a night like this, That's what do you say? He

538
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: just laughed, He's he's a funny dude. Ah. Something to

539
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: do with my hands. Let's go back to that one.

540
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: What do you have to play your hand down? Your

541
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: head down in your hand. Why do you do that?

542
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: Because I think that song is the the uh is

543
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: the perfect expression for an artist evolving into a different space.

544
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: When I first started singing, when I first became an artist,

545
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to be Eric Church more than anything in

546
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: the world. I mean, j Joyce was my producer who

547
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: produces Eric Church, Like all listen to in the high

548
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: school was Eric Church. I mean still to this day,

549
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of components about my songwriting that really

550
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: I think kind of resembled Church's way of writing, just

551
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: very a lot of storytelling. Um. But when I like,

552
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: when I listened to this song, it doesn't even I

553
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: don't even I don't even know that guy. Let's go,

554
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: you shouldn't know that guy at this point, right, yeah,

555
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: we we haven't played that song in our live show

556
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: in like four years. Has anyone ever requested though? Like

557
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: you see them, you know, and that's how you know?

558
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: And you wrote that with Stapleton and Stapleton do you

559
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: remember that specific right? I do? Man, I mean, I

560
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: mean Stapleton used to write like two times a week

561
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: back when I was maybe like twenty years old, two

562
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 1: thousand ten, two thousand and eleven. We used to right

563
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: all the time. Man, I was digging through my drop

564
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: box the other day of long has written before two

565
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen. And there's so many Stapleton work tapes

566
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: and and songs that I still think could be could

567
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: be uh you know, viable to record on on a

568
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: record of mine today, Um means they want have written

569
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: once maybe in four years, but that's just because he

570
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: that dude is so busy. Now we're both so busy.

571
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: But he still love right Stapleton, Was he full beard?

572
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah back then? But I mean he obviously is

573
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: the coolest dude in town now, but even then, if

574
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: you were in the kind of the Nashville circuit, he

575
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: was just the coolest dude you've ever you've ever seen,

576
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: and like you always just wanted to be there in

577
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: the studio when he sang the vocal because it was

578
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: it was pretty life changing. You guys also did Crash

579
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: and Burn together? Is that the song you're talking about

580
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: when you got back in the room with him? Or

581
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: was that before that? No, so I didn't write Crashing Burnt.

582
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: I didn't know this was. This is also when I

583
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: met Jesse Fraser for the first time. Jesse's produced my

584
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: last two and a half albums. He did kind of

585
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: half Tangled Up and the rest of them, and uh

586
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: that this was how I found Jesse Frasier because he

587
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: did this track and he had this whole motime motown

588
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: vibe going and him and Stapleton at the time we're

589
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: writing a ton of songs like this, which is crazy.

590
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: I think if you were to, if if you were

591
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: to be a gigantic Stables and fan of Day and

592
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: you got to dive into my dropbox a little bit,

593
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: I'd play you a bunch of old stables and demos,

594
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: you would have no idea that was stables him a

595
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: lot of songs like this, they wrote, I think Jesse

596
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: maybe the guy that has more shoes than you, and

597
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: I agreed. I mean we like shoes. That dude is

598
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: on a new level. Yeah, he's just like when his

599
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: his Nike app blows up like six times a day,

600
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: like do you want to enter the raffle for this?

601
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: Or yeah he's on it again. I have a whole

602
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: closet downstairs full of shoes. Yeah. Same. But sometimes people

603
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: come in and you just, you know, you just take

604
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: the knee. Yeah, you've just been the knee to the

605
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: person who really absolutely Yeah, he's the original sneaker head

606
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: in my life for sure. What else do you Unstableton write? Anything?

607
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: That made it? Um? We wrote a song on my

608
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: second record called shake your south Side you already got it?

609
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: You got a teat up dude. We played this we

610
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: opened our show with this for like two straight years,

611
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: like on Aldine and FDL tour. And this song was

612
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: actually SYNCD in uh, one of the Chipmunks movies they did.

613
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: They did, Yeah, they did like a Chipmunk version of

614
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: this song. Yeah, so you know how they do the

615
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: chip Monk voices. If you heard I've never heard it

616
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: now I listened to how I built how he made it,

617
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: or one of those popish where the guy that invented

618
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: the Chipmunks, he did a whole podcast and his thing

619
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: was what they do is, let's say you were gonna

620
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: do the Pledge of Allegiance as a Chipmunk, because when

621
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: you do the Chipmunk, the chipmunks high voices have to

622
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: go at normal speed. They have to sound like I sound,

623
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: just a higher pitch. So if I were doing the

624
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 1: Pledge of Allegiance, I would do it like this right

625
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: all play, so you can speed it up, but it's

626
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: still be sped up to normal speed. And so they

627
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: did that and they showed how they do the Chipmunks.

628
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: It's kind of like in music videos, if you're gonna

629
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: shoot our super slow most scene, they'll speed your song

630
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: up like double and you've got to do the scene

631
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: singing your song at double speeds so that it looks

632
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: like it's slower speed. Yeah, I didn't know that. What

633
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: do you have over the MicroC Yeah, I claimed to

634
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: fame right there. Oh my god, it's so good. That's funny.

635
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Speaker 1: That's a cool thing though. Yeah, it was cool. That's

636
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: like the Chipmunks or we mentioned Family Food or Sesame Street. Yeah,

637
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: Sesame Street was awesome, Like that's like one of the

638
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: cool things that like that's a life thing. Absolutely, it

639
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: was crazy, man. It was. First of all, it's super

640
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: cool because I think my kids are definitely too young

641
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: to knowing what Sesame Street was. So when when we

642
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: got the offer, I spent like a week showing them

643
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of old Sesame Street reruns and like Bruno

644
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: Mars doing the show or whoever doing the show, and

645
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: and they got really excited about big Bird and like

646
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: all this stuff. And so when we got up there,

647
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: my kids went ballistic, like it was one of those days.

648
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: It was like no nap there in rare form and

649
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: they were so like when when kids, I think, meet

650
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: those muppets in real life, it's like they're staring at

651
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: the hand and they're also watching the guy do the voice,

652
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: but they don't even care that the guys doing the voice.

653
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: They truly think that whatever is on that hand is

654
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: a real is a real thing. Um. And I grew

655
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: up watching Sesame Street two, and so did my dad

656
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 1: and so did my mom, and so it was like

657
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: one of those things that's truly iconic, you know, in

658
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: in our generation and our parents generation. And so when

659
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: I got to do that, it was that in SNL

660
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: are probably the two coolest things I've gotten to do. Boy,

661
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: SNL that's cool too. Remember when they announced you and

662
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: we have some of the same team. Are our PR

663
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: team the same? Yeah? Shout out to Time. Yeah, and

664
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: I have Christie and Time you know Christie. But I

665
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: remember them going got SNL. I was so pulled for

666
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: you because that's such a like it's a life thing.

667
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: It is a life thing. I mean, it's like just iconic,

668
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: like like things that like performing on the Grammys is

669
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: one of those things too. You know, I've never gotten

670
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: to do that, but doing SNL and Sesame Street we're

671
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: two definitely huge things in my bucket list and but

672
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: also the most terrifying. Um, what is the SNL by black.

673
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: So you go up when well, so we've been trying

674
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: to get SNL for almost two years and then, uh,

675
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: it's all about their slot, it's all about their timing

676
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: and uh. And we got asked to do it on

677
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: a Friday, and we did it on the next Saturday.

678
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: So a week in a day, a weekend, a day

679
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: to go in the studio or rehearsal space, me and

680
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: the whole band. Um, we hired like a four piece

681
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: horn section and like a like a two piece choir,

682
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: and we we were rehearsing songs that we had never

683
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: even touched as a band. So we did look what

684
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: God gave her and don't threaten me with a good time,

685
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: and those two songs. At that point we're barely mixed,

686
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: much less mastered, and so we're basically learning unmixed, unmastered

687
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: songs to play live on on national television like tended

688
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, nine days from now. So so but when

689
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: you go on where the songs available, no, well, look

690
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: what God Gabriel was say, sorry, look what God Gaveral

691
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: was mixed and master were a threatened was very much

692
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: so in the bones of what it was going to be.

693
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: And so we kind of had to make it up

694
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: there on the flat like it was recorded, but it

695
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: was still getting mixed, and it would hadn't been mastered yet,

696
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: And so getting choreography down and getting the horn parts

697
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 1: right and all that stuff in three days is a

698
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: lot for for a band to learn. What So when

699
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: you played Don't Threaten Me? Was that it wasn't available

700
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: to stream? No, it came out like at midnight that night. Okay,

701
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: so yeah, it at least came out that night and

702
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: you just just have to rush to get it up. Was

703
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: it one of those where because in a performed we

704
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: also got to get ready. Yeah, weren't supposed to putting

705
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: anything out until the week passed that. It was just

706
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: supposed to be look what God gave her and then

707
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: wait three weeks until the next release. And so we're like, well,

708
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna do them. Why why would we play them

709
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: and people not be available to buy them? And so

710
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: that was a last minute decision on on the labels part.

711
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: So if the show was on a Saturday night, and

712
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: what's that week like like in New York, like when

713
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: do you go up when? Yea, so people who do

714
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: you get to meet? Yeah? So we got there on Wednesday,

715
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: or yeah, we got sorry, we got there on Thursday,

716
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: rehearsed all day Thursday, Like they literally gave us like

717
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: a four hour sound check. So you're playing the songs,

718
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: you're going to the mixing booth, making sure that all

719
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: the stuff mixed is mixed right for national television, rehearsing listening,

720
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: rehearsing listening, and then the downtime, to me, was the

721
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: hardest part because you're like, Okay, we just did it

722
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: like a hundred times. Now we gotta wait, you know,

723
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: forty hours to actually do it. And so you're in

724
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: there and you're watching John Mullaney rehearse his stuff. And

725
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: I was super terrified until I taught John Mullaney and

726
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: uh he was like, how are you feeling? I was

727
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: like really nervous, and he was like, dude, me too.

728
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: And so like talking to you know, a comedian that

729
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: like that, this does that professionally for him to you

730
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: could feel his nerves as well, because I mean SNL like,

731
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: you're I feel like your judge pretty hard as a

732
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: comedian on that show, Like if it's not funny and

733
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: your opening monologue isn't great, then that's something that people

734
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: talk about um, but just watching him get to do

735
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: that and then getting I got to meet like Ben Stiller,

736
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: I got to meet Paul Rudd. Uh, you know, the

737
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 1: whole cast, and just walking in there, man, I just

738
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: could feel the whole Will Ferrell you know more Cowbell

739
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: skit like it. It's crazy how how much history you

740
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: could feel just walking in that building. And so, uh,

741
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: Friday was the off day. And as much as you

742
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: want to do your routine, just get up, workout, going

743
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: a nice lunch. Just it's all that's on your head.

744
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: Is like tomorrow night. It's the real deal. Because even

745
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: doing Fallon and Kimmel and all that, even though it

746
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: is live, it's not live. You're filming it like four

747
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon. And even though it is live

748
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: in front of an audience, on an audience, like if

749
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: you mess up a word or two, most of those

750
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: shows will let you go do it again, even though

751
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: you don't want to do it again. You can s

752
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: n L you mess up, You're done. Your your mess

753
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: up is forever on national television and on YouTube and

754
00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: part of the Yeah for sure, yeah exactly. So what's

755
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: the day of the show, Like, do you wake up

756
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: like Oh is that almost like graduation or prom or

757
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, this is gonna you wake up. You

758
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: don't get enough sleep firstday of school. Oh yeah, dude.

759
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: Like I remember going to bed that night. I was like,

760
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna get a bit at ten, get

761
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: up at seven. You know, dude, I did like to

762
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: two vocal warm ups that day. My vocal coach lives

763
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: in New York. I've never met. We always skyped our

764
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: lessons and finally got to meet her. And I got

765
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: in bed at ten and walked back up and couldn't

766
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: go to bed to like two o'clock, two o'clock in

767
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: the morning, and then still popped up at seven. With

768
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: these nerves, you're doing these vocal lessons. You're going to oho, crap,

769
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: do you hear that? Scratch them out throat and your

770
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: vocal coach like, no, it sounds fine. And so you're

771
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: just judging every bit of part of your day. And

772
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: then finally you get there and you do a whole

773
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: run through, like you run the entire show, like dress

774
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: rehearsal at like nine o'clock. Then you have to sit

775
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: in your dressing room to a midnight and so you're

776
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: just sitting there going, dear Lord, have mercy. You're watching

777
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: all these people, You're watching all these you know, these

778
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: skits go by, and you're like, what was that one's

779
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna make it? Is that one gonna make it? And

780
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: then the show comes on. Half the skits you thought

781
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna make it don't make it. Then you're like,

782
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: all right, well, I got twenty minutes before I go singing,

783
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: and then they can pop on your end and like, hey,

784
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: you have three minutes, and so you don't even have

785
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: chance to be nervous. Then you got there and you

786
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: do it. You got one song done, they do more,

787
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: they do more comedic skits, and then you do your

788
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: other song and then when it was over, dude, it

789
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: was one of the most biggest. It was like the

790
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: biggest weight off your shoulders you could ever imagine, um,

791
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: like in a good way, especially because you did well. Yeah,

792
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: and you did well, and but you do it a

793
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: first time because that they do that show twice. The

794
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: SNL they do one where you talking about the skit

795
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: cutting and I'm assuming you performed during that show too,

796
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: or ya, okay, you do so you performed four times

797
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: in one night. Pretty you do you do one to

798
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: the show that doesn't get seen except they bring in

799
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: a first audience who watches it exactly, and then they go, Okay,

800
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: now we're gonna go do the real show, and they've

801
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: cut a bunch of skits and you still got to

802
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: do your two songs. Yeah, exactly. But does it make

803
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: it a a little easier that you did it the first

804
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: time and you kind of got out on stage and

805
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: experience it, or is it still like, well, this one's live. Correct, Well,

806
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: it is easier, But at the same time, you're you're like, Okay,

807
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: those two performances that we just did, we're flawless. The

808
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: band was flawless, the horn parts for great. Now you're going,

809
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: can we do it again with the same intensity and

810
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: the same perfection. And I think that's where the nerves

811
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: come in. But at the same time, dude, like anytime

812
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: I've done live television, I don't remember what I don't

813
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: remember what happened, and I barely I rarely ever go

814
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: watch back my lap performances because I hate I always

815
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: just critique the crap out of myself. Um So I

816
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: still haven't even seen what we did on this and

817
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: you don't watch it I'm okay with that. But I

818
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: don't watch back what I do either, because I just go, oh,

819
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: could have done that? Instead of going, oh, that was good,

820
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: I go It's like social media comments. Instead of going, hey,

821
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: thank you for that nice comment, I just find the

822
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: ones that ripped me totally. Yeah, I can't same, dude,

823
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: we share that in common. I was blocking people today.

824
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: I got. My thing is I'm trying to eliminate negative

825
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: influences around me. I can only produce when I'm in

826
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: an environment to produce, and if I expect the best

827
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: from me, which I do, why would I not put

828
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: the best possible situation around me? Totally? And that's removing

829
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: negative influences. That's putting people that are great around me

830
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: around me. Yeah. And part of that is like a

831
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: stupid social media people are screaming at me, calling me names.

832
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: You didn't pay to be there. It's true. Block yeah,

833
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: you ever block people? Yes? Yeah? Well. The the craziest

834
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: part is that when when people continually comment to you

835
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: and they follow you, it's like, why do you follow me?

836
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: Like I could get it if you kind of came

837
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: across it on your search page and then you wanted

838
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: to throw some hate my way. But it's just like

839
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: you follow me and all you do is ripped me

840
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: to shreds, Like what is the point you ever hit

841
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: one O with a DM? Like, hey, just you're okay.

842
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: I'm getting better at that, I would say. Two years ago,

843
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: Thomas responded to eight of things that that I that

844
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: I didn't like. Um, but, um, dude, I have you

845
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: ever met Bob Golf before? No? You know who Bob

846
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: Golf is? Tell me he's he's a book writer. He

847
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: writes motivational books, but also U sort of Christian based,

848
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: And um, I met him at a show in Hawaii

849
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: and he was randomly in Hawaii for a day doing

850
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: a conference, and me and Lauren had lunch with him,

851
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: and we we just got into this conversation about this

852
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: whole social media age and how do you deal with

853
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: people that constantly just critique your Instagram page and just

854
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: nothing but thumbs down to your music and anything that

855
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: you say, like you can set the skies blue when

856
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: they'd say it was green, Like how do you how

857
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: do you deal with those kind of people? And and uh,

858
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: as as strange as this sounds, it really made a

859
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: lot of sense. And he said that for the last

860
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: ten years of his life. Every pair of pants he gets,

861
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: he cuts the left pocket out of his pants, and

862
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: I was like, that's the weirdest thing I've ever heard.

863
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: And he does that as a metaphor, so like when

864
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of hate throwing his way, he

865
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: calls those like left pocket things that when he puts

866
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: them in their pocket, they just fall away. And um.

867
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: Another thing that he does is he'll get on an

868
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: Instagram page with somebody that that has slandered him or whatever,

869
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: like on Instagram, and know he'll go find something on

870
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: their Instagram page in some way that that person has

871
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: been in pain, so whether they've lost relative or whether

872
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: they broke their leg or whatever, and instead of like

873
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: commenting back, he just prays for him and then calls

874
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: it today. And that's something that I've been really trying

875
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: hard to do because you never know, you never know

876
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: where the pain is coming from, and you never know

877
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: why that person is is so miserable in the first place,

878
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: And and who am I to judge? It's easier for

879
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: me to judge rather than like wonder why why they're

880
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: in that situation in the first place, where they're on Instagram,

881
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm just like throwing hate people's way. I also find

882
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: because of that, like I'm more conscious of trying to

883
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: be outwardly kinder yea, and not even towards them, but

884
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: just in general, like because at times that environment can

885
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: be toxic. So I will try to create in other

886
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: people's space, uh, less less toxicity. If it's riding a

887
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: nice comment, if it's sending a tech say that that

888
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: was great. So what I try to make it do

889
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: to me is push me the other way, just like earlier,

890
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: when someone's like that's not that funny, I'm like, all right,

891
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: I got you. When someone's like, hey, your head looks humongous,

892
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: or you don't you don't not talented enough to be

893
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: on you're not famous? Why are you on family celebrity

894
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: family feud, It's like all right, Like I I see

895
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: your your negativity here, but I'm gonna take that like

896
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: it stings a little bit, and I'm gonna use that

897
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: as PIB. I'm gonna make sure good do something positive,

898
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: but not towards them like that's awes. I'll let it

899
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: push and I don't do it to be awesome. But

900
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: that's that's been my mechanism. Yeah, But if it if

901
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: it makes your head more positive and more level, and

902
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: that's more an affecting people in positive way around you

903
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: than than you know, good for that person that didn't

904
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: like your comment or your your joke. It's it's kind

905
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: of wild too, Like your kids are going to grow

906
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: up in an environment of knowing terrifies me. Like all

907
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: the country stars l a New York, like they're gonna

908
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: have I can I say different? But I mean you

909
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: grew up knowing some of these guys, Like yeah, when

910
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: you grew up in Nashville, Like did you know McGraw?

911
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: I did from an early age. Yeah, I mean not

912
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: so not so much McGraw. I mean I met McGraw

913
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: when I was nine. I met met Garth when I

914
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: was like eight or nine years old. Um, we spent

915
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: like a couple of halloweens over Reba's house. Um, mostly

916
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: people that dad toured with. I knew pretty well. Blake

917
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: Shelton when he when he is back in his younger

918
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: in his younger days, not saying that you're old, Blake,

919
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: just you're younger then. Um he's a big fan. Help

920
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: for sure here this yeah for sure? Um, but uh yeah, man,

921
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: I definitely grew up in that environment, but it was

922
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: so different social me. He didn't exist then, you know

923
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like if if there was an artist

924
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: that did something that was worth talking about, it was

925
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: in the newspaper. Just so different now, like if something

926
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: happens this immediately for anyone in the world to see.

927
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: Do you and Lauren have the talks about the kids

928
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: on Instagram and the kids on Twitter? And like we

929
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: talked about it daily man, And we get asked that

930
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: question quite a bit, like what is the balance? And

931
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: I think we're still trying to figure it out. But

932
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: I think through it all, me and Lauren is still

933
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: trying to be super real to to how we like

934
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: to live life. And ever since we got married, I

935
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: was we were both twenty two and we got married,

936
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: and my fans have known that I was married. Since

937
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: I was married. There was no ever trying to be like, hey,

938
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm still the the single dude. You know what I'm saying,

939
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: because I think uh in in in a lot of formats,

940
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you want to be accessible and you

941
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: want to be the single guy because they think that

942
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: it drives more fans your way. But that's never something

943
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: that I really believed in, and so Lauren has been

944
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: such a huge part of my social media platform that like,

945
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: when our kids got here, it was like, yeah, there's

946
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: a lot of things that are too personal that we're

947
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: definitely gonna say for our own family group text and

948
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: our private Instagram pages and stuff. But like, I mean,

949
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, we're a family with two kids, and and

950
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna project that, you know what I'm saying,

951
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: And and so there's a lot of people that are like, well,

952
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: maybe that's not protective of your kids, and it's just like, well,

953
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: they're part of our lives. And we've always been super

954
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: transparent and we've always kind of told whatever's on our

955
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: sleeve is going to be kind of on Instagram, and

956
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: we're pretty real about the stuff that we deal with

957
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: and the stuff that we struggle with, and and uh,

958
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: I just think it's I just think more so than anything,

959
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: it's more of a, like you said, a positive influence

960
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: to other families that have kids and just realize that

961
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: every day is not rainbows and butterflies. And also nobody's wrong, right,

962
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a thing to understand. Two

963
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: is that because somebody disagrees that you put your kids

964
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: on Instagram and because maybe they don't, they're not right

965
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: or wrong, exact right or wrong. There are much like music,

966
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: there are just different ways to do and it doesn't

967
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: make you right or wrong. You can be different and

968
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: you don't have to hate somebody that's different exactly. But

969
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: we're in that climate where it's like a climate, political climate,

970
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: it's all all the time. It's just so frustrating to me.

971
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: Probably one of the biggest frustrating factors in my life

972
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: of the last five years have been Instagram or Twitter

973
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: or whatever. And it's funny because Instagram is a big

974
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: part of your successful career too, yet it's still one

975
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: of the most frustrating parts of it as well. It's

976
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: such a blessing and a curse, you know, um, because

977
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: all you want to do is use your Instagram for

978
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: a for a platform and and use it to just

979
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: promote positivity and love and peace and all these things.

980
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: But it's just like, it doesn't matter what you are

981
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: I post, there's going to be something ridiculous on there.

982
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: I posted a picture yesterday or a video yesterday just

983
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: of saying, like what my new single was going to be?

984
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: The first comment was shave your beard? You know what

985
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm like, first of all, what do you

986
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: what are you doing in your life? You have time

987
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: to just say that to me, you know what I'm saying,

988
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: like or like hey been the bill of your hat?

989
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 1: But okay, let me play Devil's advocate because I agree,

990
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: what a dump thing, But you don't remember that like that.

991
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm giving that person they got noticed.

992
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write on your next Instagram, I'm gonna write

993
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: been the billy had right? And I remember that on

994
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: that Um, it was frustrating for me. And I don't

995
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: know and I'm not speaking for you, but I know

996
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: watching you and I'm a big fan of how you

997
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: do your music. Thanks you. You're you're pretty unapologetic about

998
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: this is my style, like this is me and okay,

999
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: you can you can get on or you can get

1000
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: off the ride. But I'm just gonna do what I do. UM,

1001
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: And I know that for me to watch at times

1002
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: some of all they call it the old guard or

1003
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: to go that's that guy is not country. That frustrates me.

1004
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: For you, I don't know how you feel about that,

1005
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: but that that for me, I'm like, God, if you

1006
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: guys even just knew like that, dude is a country

1007
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: as can be, right, Yeah, man, yeah, I mean that that.

1008
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: That's been my life as a country artist, not necessarily

1009
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: in the beginning, but I'll say on my second record,

1010
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: when I started to like lean way more uh just

1011
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: progressive as far as production goes, and I started to

1012
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: take my singing a whole lot more seriously and doing

1013
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: vocal lessons and all this stuff, trying to just make

1014
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: my records sound like something that wasn't happening in our genre. Dude,

1015
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: I have gotten more comments of you are not country

1016
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: or you are ruining the face of our genre. Might

1017
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: as well quit now, Like I mean, if I could

1018
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: mean there's I mean, I'm sure that you've had some

1019
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: of those similar comments, but it's just like it in

1020
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: the beginning of the of those days, it was just like,

1021
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe they're right, you know what I mean, like,

1022
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: and I think that's the poor four in my angiogram

1023
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: going there, right, I'm I suck, I'm defeated. I'm it's

1024
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: better for me to quit for the whole world than

1025
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: than than you're gonna take one for the world. The team.

1026
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take one for the world. Yeah, but really

1027
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm taking one for like sixty people. You know what

1028
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. A small vocal, very small vocal minority. And

1029
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: the more I thought about it, I was like, you're

1030
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: not country. You're not country? Okay? Why why am I

1031
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: not country? Well, you don't work cowboy boots on stage. Okay,

1032
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: let me let me mentally go through that. The reason

1033
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't work cowboy boots on stage because I jump

1034
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: up and down like a crazy person. And on the

1035
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: Aldine tour in two thousand thirteen, his thrust was this

1036
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: metal grading material and I was wearing sniptoade cowboy boots

1037
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: and got stuck in them every night. That's the reason

1038
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: I don't work cowboy boots on stage. Does that make

1039
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: me not country? I think, no, you're not country because

1040
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: your music doesn't fiddle in it. I would say ninety

1041
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: eight percent of songs on country radio don't have a

1042
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: fiddle in it. There's another one, you know what I'm saying.

1043
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: And so you just have to like do this self

1044
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: check and I think through therapy and you know, through

1045
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: talking with my wife and talking to people I trust

1046
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: about it's just like dude, at the end of the day,

1047
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: his country music not about being yourself, and his country

1048
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: music not about telling the truth in a story. Do

1049
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: I do both those things? Yes? Do I dress a

1050
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: little different? Yes? Are some of my songs more progressive

1051
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: than some things on country radio. Yes, I'm allowed to

1052
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: explore my outlets, you know what I'm saying. Like you

1053
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: look back at any and we I think we've had

1054
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: this conversation before. But when Merle Haggard and Willie Nelson,

1055
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: all these dudes came out, they were called outlaws for

1056
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: a reason. An outlaw is not just a term that

1057
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: you used to describe country music today. It is every

1058
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: twenty years we look back at the artist twenty years

1059
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: ago and say that was real country music. You know

1060
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We say Sna Twin is real country music.

1061
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: But at the time she was a pop singer. They

1062
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: told her on Instagram. Was like, I was talking to

1063
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: Garth and he said to say, you know, that's my

1064
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: favorite one to share with people who go that's guard

1065
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: real country. Garth was like, Dude, country music did not

1066
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: embrace me. He was like they were antiing up Brooks.

1067
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: I came to town and they were like, you're not country.

1068
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: Get out of here, like what are you? And you

1069
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: can go through and you can go back. And you

1070
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: mentioned some of those guys, but everyone that has changed

1071
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: the music for the better because they're the ones who

1072
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: we remember as being successful, has been not country exactly.

1073
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: And in any genre people hated, and people hated because

1074
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: they weren't the Beatles in any art, and any not

1075
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: even just music, in any art whatsoever. You can look

1076
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: at comedy or visual art, just whatever. People that break

1077
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: the mold and are not get the finger like you're

1078
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: not this are the ones that create the new this.

1079
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: And so that's always what's frustrated me for you and

1080
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: partially too, I think selfishly. When I came to town,

1081
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: it was hey, you're not country, and I'm going m

1082
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: I grew up a mountain pine arch like, live in

1083
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: a trailer, Like what what animal do you want me

1084
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: to clean? Because I can? Can you give them? And

1085
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: I started to think, what makes me not have an accent?

1086
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: What makes me not country? It was it because I

1087
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: was doing a popping hip hop for a while, because

1088
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: that was where I got my first job. I said,

1089
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: because I come on and I just tell my truth.

1090
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: All the time, very authentic about my message and CBS

1091
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: at the story like he doesn't work cowboy boots or

1092
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: cowboy hat. He's the he's the renegade. Like isn't country

1093
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: just telling the truth. You don't have to be from

1094
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: the South. I am you are, So we kind of

1095
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: get that little nickel that we can spend. But there's more,

1096
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: say more country folks in New York, upstate New York,

1097
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: and it was country is crap or like right outside

1098
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: of DC, like northern Virginia. So like, I I feel

1099
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: your pain. And sometimes when I see people write stuff,

1100
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, First of all, who care?

1101
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: But second of all, I go I know, as a creator,

1102
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: after a while, it starts to go, oh, it just

1103
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: gets to be a weight that you almost don't like

1104
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: to acknowledge because you're giving them power. But it's real.

1105
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: But it also makes me better too. Yeah. Absolutely, it's

1106
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: honestly that that's the one area in my life that's

1107
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: that's taking a lot of growing. But like you said,

1108
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: like when I do get those comments, it fuels my fire.

1109
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: It used to suck my life away and now now

1110
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: it fuels my fire. Your dad's country, he was here

1111
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: my dad is country. Your dad is. No one's gonna

1112
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: see your dad and go that game country. Yeah. Oh

1113
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's my fa. That's my favorite comment

1114
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: I've ever gotten. Your daddy must be so ashamed. Oh

1115
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: people say that for about a year there. That was

1116
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: that was that was the special comment. Your daddy is

1117
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: ashamed of you? And I was like, I don't think

1118
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he is. Well, what it like? What

1119
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: a rotten thing, That's what I'm saying, Like that one

1120
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: that that's a rotten thing to write, even for trolls exactly,

1121
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: Like I lost a little faith in all trolls that

1122
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: they actually write that already and have a good opinion

1123
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: of the what So, what is it? What's the relationship

1124
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: with you and your dad? Now? It's amazing, dude, Me

1125
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: and me and dad have gone through a bunch of

1126
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: seasons in our life, uh, from high school playing football

1127
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: into you know, signing a record deal and kind of

1128
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: starting the career to kind of getting into my career

1129
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: and kind of finding my own voice, my own sound,

1130
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: and then so now going through a lot of different

1131
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: phases in life and all all good. Um, you know,

1132
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: I think every every father and son has their definitely

1133
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: ups some downs, But I would say that me and

1134
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: my dad today, at twenty nine and almost fifty, are

1135
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: in the best place I've ever been in, uh, in

1136
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: our father son relationship, because like, he's so young and

1137
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: he had me when he was nineteen. My mom had

1138
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: me when she was nineteen. UM, and so to have

1139
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: a young parent that is I think, because I feel

1140
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of a young parent, and I feel

1141
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: like when I'm fifty, I'm gonna be a lot different

1142
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: to my kids then than I am now, because I

1143
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: think parents just go through continuous learning phases. Um. But

1144
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: my dad is obviously my dad, but he's also like

1145
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: one of my best friends in the world, you know.

1146
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: So he's on tour with us this year, UM, brings

1147
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: his wife out on road. UM. And when my kids

1148
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: come out, they just they flocked my dad, like they're

1149
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: obsessed my dad. They call him Popeye, and uh, I

1150
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: think for the longest time, I was like, what does

1151
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: my dad gonna be like as a grandfather, And he's

1152
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: like the best grandfather in the world. And we'll get

1153
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: right during the day, we get to play shows at night,

1154
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: and uh, I just feel like he's just become kind

1155
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: of a person that doesn't have so. I mean, he

1156
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: obviously he is very focused and very driven and wants

1157
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: to be an amazing songwriter. But I think a lot

1158
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: of the pressure of going, how do I keep keep

1159
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: keep doing this is kind of left him as as

1160
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: he's turned forty eight to fifty. I just felt like

1161
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: he's got a lot less pressure on his shoulders. And

1162
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of made our relationship a lot

1163
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: better and he's given me a lot more um you know,

1164
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: older man wisdom. I think, did he encourage you early,

1165
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: early on to start music? Not really, man, My dad

1166
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: never pressured me to do a lot, but his his

1167
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: big things don't quit anything, you know what I mean.

1168
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: Like we we battled that for a while, like in

1169
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: high school, like going to football camp. No one likes

1170
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: football camp. I don't care if you're the best football

1171
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: player in the world, you hate football camp. And like

1172
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I just I just want to quit

1173
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: and play baseball. I want to quit and go do

1174
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: this or that. And to be like, well, you signed up,

1175
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: you're not quitting, and uh. And so when it came

1176
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: to music, he was just he was very weird about

1177
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: it because I think he did it, you know, for

1178
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: ten or twelve years, and he knows the highs and

1179
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: he knows the lows, and he knows what failure feels

1180
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: like him was success feels like I think any dad

1181
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: would want to kind of give their their kid whatever

1182
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: they can expect and then be like, hey, now you

1183
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: can make the decision, but I want you to know

1184
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: that it's not going an easy road. And so him

1185
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: and my mom both were like, are you sure that

1186
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 1: you want to get into music? And when I turned

1187
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: about nineteen years old, it was really the only thing

1188
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: in life that I wanted to do. All I want

1189
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: to do is write songs. All I want to do

1190
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: is play shows. Anything about creating anything. That's what I

1191
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: wanted to do. So do you look back now and

1192
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: see that you're your father's son. Yes, maybe you didn't

1193
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: see it then, but now you look back and go,

1194
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm I didn't. Yeah, I didn't see it a lot

1195
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: of then, but now I'm looking at the way that

1196
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: I parent the way that he parented, and and and uh,

1197
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: we are we are a lot alike in a lot

1198
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: of ways, and we are still very different a lot

1199
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: of ways, but more so alike. What would your first

1200
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: cut ever, um, a song called I Ain't Ready to

1201
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: Quit by Jayson meldeen two. You were still in school

1202
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: at the time. I was at Lipscombe University down the street. Yeah,

1203
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: and you get a cut. What's that like? I thought

1204
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: that I was a jillionaire and I probably made a

1205
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: hundred bucks that cut. But I remember when that when

1206
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: that came out, dude, it was like all my buddies

1207
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: in college. Remember we went to Walmart that night and

1208
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: we all bought two copies of the record, and uh

1209
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: we we parked my truck in the front yard of

1210
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: this little house next Lipscombe and we just we had

1211
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: a party to one song. We literally just played this

1212
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: song on repeat for like six hours. It was just

1213
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just the coolest thing that had

1214
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: ever happened to me in my entire life. He signed

1215
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: a record deal like a year later. A year later. Yeah,

1216
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: did you do the let me talk to some record labels?

1217
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: Did you do the showcases for people? Was it a

1218
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: they all offering you deals? Like what what was the

1219
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: Thomas Rhett record label? Uh? Kind of pursuit like they did. Man,

1220
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: We I think I played for I played for six

1221
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: or seven record labels, and uh, the only song that

1222
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: I had that I thought was even remotely good was

1223
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: a song called if I Could Have a Biggle with

1224
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: Jesus that was on my first record, and um, every

1225
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: every label that I played for a day later had

1226
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: offered me a record deal, and I couldn't believe it

1227
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: because all all, I all, I thought I wanted to

1228
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: be as a songwriter. I just wanted to follow on

1229
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 1: Dad's footsteps, like I didn't. I don't think I wanted

1230
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: to go on the road. I wanted to play shows,

1231
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: but I didn't think I wanted to do the whole

1232
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: do the thing, going radio tour, sign a record, to

1233
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: do all that stuff. But as I got it, got

1234
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: into it, started to get some cuts. It gave me

1235
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: the bug because I when I wrote the songs instead

1236
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: of other people singing him, I really want. I really

1237
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: wondered what it would be like if I recorded him

1238
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: and put him on the radio. And uh, and so

1239
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: once I signed a record of a Big Machine. I

1240
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: think it was two thousand and eleven. Um, it's just

1241
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: kind of been a roller coaster since then, but it

1242
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: was it was definitely the right thing for sure, Like

1243
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: what in your mind, wait, when you wake up in

1244
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: the morning, you go all right, micro and macro there's

1245
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: a big difference. And I believe we have to have

1246
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: micro goals like what am I gonna do today? What

1247
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this hour. I'm a big believer in

1248
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: and writing things down and declaring even to yourself what

1249
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: you want, because then if you don't get it or

1250
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: you do get it, there's a winter loss there. I'm

1251
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: big on I mean marks um. And then the macro goals,

1252
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: which are this is what I'd like to be in

1253
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: five ten years, this is what I like to be

1254
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: for my career. So micro goals first, like what are

1255
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: your what are your your goals this week, this month?

1256
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 1: Like as a as a today's human being right now,

1257
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: micro goals are too really be more of a a

1258
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 1: content human being that may fit into micro and macro.

1259
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: But I want to be more content, I want to

1260
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: be more patient. I believe it has to be micro

1261
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: before it's macro. So when I say that, it's also

1262
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: an elevator, like you can't just go big. If you

1263
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: don't do the small things right, you definitely not do

1264
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: the big things. Yeah, I think the two biggest I

1265
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: think my two biggest hindrances in life are are my

1266
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: Sometimes I love where I am for like two days,

1267
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: but there always has to be something els so makes sense.

1268
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: Are you someone who's never satisfied? I'm satisfied for a time,

1269
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: and and not necessarily in my family, actually not at all.

1270
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: In my family. I love. I love sitting with my kids,

1271
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: I love hanging out with my wife. I love doing

1272
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: vacations with my kids. But especially in my career, Like

1273
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: me and my manager had a long talk about this

1274
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: other day because on the road lately, like I just

1275
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: put a record out a month ago, and I've had

1276
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: nothing but songwriters out with me every single weekend and

1277
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: we and we write like ten songs on a weekend.

1278
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: And so the benefit of that is that you wrote

1279
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: ten songs. The downside is that when you get to

1280
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: your Saturday show, you're praying all day that your voice

1281
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: works because you've done nothing but sing demos um. And

1282
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: there's a part of me that's like, why am I

1283
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: writing songs right now? I literally just put a record out.

1284
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: But it's the fact that the record came out, and

1285
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: even though it's it's only a month old, in my brain,

1286
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: it's been out for a year and so I'm like, Okay,

1287
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm falling behind. And so I don't know if it's

1288
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: more of a content thing or if it's more of like,

1289
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: how do I always have to keep growing? And there

1290
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: always has to be a new song, There always has

1291
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: to be a new tour, There always has to be

1292
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: a new this. I think the search for I wish

1293
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: I was I wish the search for new would not stop.

1294
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: But we're just kind of taper a little bit. Do

1295
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: you talk to your therapist about this? Yeah? And I

1296
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: don't know if that comes from when we talk about

1297
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: Instagram four times. But I don't know if it comes

1298
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: from that that mindset. That's just what my brain is wired. Um.

1299
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: But even as a kid, dude, like it was all

1300
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: it was always what what else is there? What what's next? Um?

1301
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: But it's always in more careers driven goals than it

1302
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: is in family. Don make any sense? Yeah? And it does.

1303
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: And also that I can feel that you've been working

1304
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: on this because you have acknowledgement of your being. Yes,

1305
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: And the first way to fix a problem, and not

1306
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: even to fix a problem, but to address the problem

1307
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: is no you have We'll call it a problem to you, right,

1308
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: now it's a problem. But what I found with my issues,

1309
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: my problems, is they're also what makes me. The same

1310
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: way we talked about Instagram, Like your problem is that

1311
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: you got to keep doing what's been what's been making

1312
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: you so successful, Like you feel like you gotta keep going.

1313
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: You've also I've been doing it forever, so it's hard

1314
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: to change. And so but I can hear that you

1315
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: are are repaired. I use the words problem to repair

1316
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: because it's the person one we gravitate to. You're trying

1317
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: to repair yourself in your mind, and by doing that,

1318
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: you've got to acknowledge where the part is broken in

1319
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: the car totally. Yeah, and so your growth is just

1320
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: kind of acknowledging this and you're never gonna fix it. No,

1321
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: it's not to be fixed though, right, Like it really

1322
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: isn't to be fixed. It's just to be acknowledged and

1323
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: monitored and get out of control. Yeah, for sure. Because

1324
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: it definitely bleeds into my family life a little bit.

1325
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of times that we're standing in

1326
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: the kitchen just me and like my entire family came over.

1327
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 1: My wife will look at me and should go where

1328
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: are you right now? And I'm in a song like

1329
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm literally writing another verse and and those are parts

1330
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: of me that I wish I could change because one

1331
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: day my kids aren't gonna be little, and and I

1332
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: don't want to look back in twenty years ago I

1333
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: was writing songs when my kids are growing up in

1334
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: a metaphorical kind of language, you know. Um, And I

1335
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: just wish, you know, Like, I love the fact that

1336
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: I always I'm always striving for something new and something

1337
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: better and something different, because I think if you stop evolving,

1338
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: then you stop growing. Um. But you know, at least

1339
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: for the sake of my wife and for my kids,

1340
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: I do wish that when I came home my brain

1341
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: could remotely be turned off of work a little bit

1342
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: more than it is, you know what I'm saying. And

1343
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: I think you can fix it, but you never want

1344
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: to fix it. It's just not who you are. And

1345
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: I think I can tell you know that too. Yeah,

1346
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: I definitely know it. Yeah, Like right now you're writing

1347
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: a song instead of doing this podcast, Like I'm like,

1348
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: where are you? Where are you right now? He's like,

1349
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm writing, I'm writing a song. Um, what what do

1350
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: you you talk about? Lauren and the kids? Like, what

1351
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: do you feel like the biggest because you write all

1352
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: these songs and it's a lot of stories about your

1353
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: life and situations. What do you feel like the biggest

1354
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: misconception is about you? Guys? Well, I feel like I

1355
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: tried to fix that misconception on this record a little bit.

1356
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: Um I think me and you mean you talked about it.

1357
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: Me and Amy for sure have but like like on

1358
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: a song called Dreaming, never had um or notice, like

1359
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: those two songs are really way more in depth into

1360
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: me and Lauren's relationship than I think people are aware of.

1361
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: Like I think sometimes people look at our marriage and

1362
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: they go to nothing is wrong with them, just just

1363
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: based off our Instagram because we're we do this and

1364
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: we're traveling there and we're taking these we're taking these

1365
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: pictures on a beach and and it's like, well, their

1366
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: life is so perfect, and it's just like I think

1367
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: the misconception is that mine and Lauren's life with our kids,

1368
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: rainbows and butterflies, it is just as crazy and messed

1369
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: up and chaotic as everybody else. And I think that

1370
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: that that would be a misconception for sure. Tell me

1371
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: about a hundred forty seven billion orphans, so a hundred

1372
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: forty seven million orphans changed to Love One. Uh. My

1373
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: wife and the kind of the creators of the company

1374
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: kind of rebranded it and called it Loved One. And UM,

1375
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: I think after Lauren had gone to you gone to

1376
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: several times, she knew she wanted to be a part

1377
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: of it. So she was added to the board of

1378
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: one four seven and then as she got involved, they

1379
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: changed the name to Love One. UM. And love one

1380
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: means like if if everyone loved one person, which like

1381
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: if everyone could care for one person, then there might

1382
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: not be as as big as an orphan issue. UM.

1383
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, they provide water, health food, UM.

1384
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: Mainly their focuses in Massindy Uganda, which is where WILLI

1385
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: grace from? And they take you know, random teams of

1386
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, twenty and thirty like three or four times

1387
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: a year over there too to help work and kind

1388
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: of help fix and and kind of brainstorm about, you know,

1389
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of the future of what we can do in

1390
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: in Massindy. I love it that you found something you're

1391
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: passionate about and you work towards helping it, both of

1392
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: you and Lauren. UM. A struggle that I had because

1393
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm so close to Amy, and and I went over

1394
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: to Haiti and was at the orphanage and people would go,

1395
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: why are you not helping people down the street? And

1396
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: how would go and and for a while, I like

1397
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: my heart hurt for Amy having to deal with this.

1398
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: We got that a lot too, and I can only imagine.

1399
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: But I would say, and I would get on and

1400
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't say it anymore because it's like it's a

1401
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: it's a vote, it's a vocal minority, and there's a

1402
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: realization and me that goes my people don't feel this way.

1403
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: But I would say, you know, why should we limit

1404
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: our giving two proximity? Meaning? If I find something I'm

1405
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: passionate about and I want to give to it, who

1406
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: are you to judge me on what I'm doing? And

1407
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: then who am I to care that you're judging me?

1408
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: And then it goes comes back to me. It's always

1409
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: a me thing. It's like, should we base giving on

1410
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: how close someone is to us? And if so, why

1411
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: aren't you helping someone four houses down the nine houses down?

1412
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: For sure? Are they more important because there are a

1413
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: block away than someone who's a mile away, Because according

1414
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: to your logic, we can only help people that we

1415
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: can touch and then we need to work our way out.

1416
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: But I just know from being with Amy and she's

1417
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: got it worse than even I did. When we were

1418
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: we basically rebuilt that orphanage. I'm sure that was something

1419
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: that you guys struggled with a bit. We definitely do. Man,

1420
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: we still struggle with it. Um, you know, I mean

1421
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: you can't. You're never going to escape those comments, especially

1422
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: when it comes to something like adopts. You're never gonna escape. Um,

1423
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: some of those comments of going, well, that's not your kid,

1424
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And and that is the

1425
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: most hurt for comment on the planet because you because

1426
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: you realize, yes, I'm I'm not well a grace biological father, um,

1427
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: but you know, due to certain circumstances, I am you

1428
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I'm I'm I'm her, I'm

1429
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: her dad, and Lauren as her mom, and and uh,

1430
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, I think that the Lord places different things

1431
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: on different people's harts at different times. And so like

1432
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: you said, for you to be like, well, while you know,

1433
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: there's kids that need helping here, and I'm like, I

1434
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: realize that you know what I'm saying, and I think

1435
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: it's still my part to help in Nashville just as much,

1436
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: just as much of it is as it in Uganda.

1437
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: But um, for some reason, the Lord put put Masindy

1438
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: on our hearts and and and that's where we've been

1439
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: for the last three or four years. And and I

1440
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: will be there as long as it stays on our heart.

1441
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: And also, human beings are human beings. If you can

1442
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: help a human being, can go help a human being.

1443
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: Right Why we Why why would let a proximity be

1444
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: a factor in why we do or don't help? For sure,

1445
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: it drives me crazy. Yeah, it drives me crazy too, man.

1446
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: And and even outside of like I'll do things for animals.

1447
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: We why don't you help people? Well, I do help people,

1448
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: douche bat, don't get me started. But yes, it's it's

1449
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: almost like, regardless of what you do, according to the

1450
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 1: the outside of the bubble, you can't do enough. Yeah,

1451
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: for sure, you really can't. Man, Look at this, Look

1452
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: at this. I'm getting all fired up up here for you.

1453
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Um, you got you got two kids,

1454
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: that's a lot you got. Like you're dad, You're on

1455
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: the road, you're being kid dad, You're being the star.

1456
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: Hey can you can you pause? Can we pause this

1457
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: or no? Well, yeah, we can do whatever we want.

1458
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: I was going to tell you mean Tom talked about this.

1459
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: So we're pregnant again and it's we're releasing it tomorrow.

1460
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: Is there any way that you would say that very more? Actually,

1461
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: we don't need to posit. We'll just not put it

1462
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: up to tomorrow. So let's let it keep running. Okay, yeah,

1463
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: there you go. So you just heard how he told me.

1464
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't even want to remove that. Let's leave that in.

1465
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: So you're having another baby? Yes? Wait, are you having

1466
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: a baby? You adopting? We're having a baby. Wow, look

1467
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: at that. It's pretty wild man potent you are. And

1468
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: it's a girl. Three girls, three girls. Yeah, just when

1469
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Speaker 1: I thought life could not get any crazier, we're having

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01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: we're having another girl. And when do you when is

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01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 1: the baby gonna be here? Do you know? February three?

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01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: And you know it's a girl. Yeah, we did. We

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01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: did the blood test thing. You know where you can

1474
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: do the genetic test. I don't know. Oh yeah, you know,

1475
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: so you can do a blood I think it's ten weeks.

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01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: We can do a blood test and you can find

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01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: out the gender and you can find out, you know,

1478
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: kind of all this stuff about your baby. And so, yeah,

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01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: we're having a girl. We found out yesterday. Our whole

1480
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: our whole family Comember when we shot off these cannons

1481
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: that blow either blue or blue or pink colors. And

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01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: my whole family was convinced it was a boy. Like

1483
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: I already had boy names picked out, and we shot

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01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: these cannons off and it was pink. And I was like,

1485
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: dear lord, three weddings, three weddings, that's true. As a dad,

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01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to marry off three daughters, three daughters,

1487
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: and we're not and we're not even done. I mean,

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01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Lauren wants to have five kids. So who knows.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations man, than you crazy, it's crazy, I know, Thank

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01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: you very much. Look at you. Yeah, you're like fifteen,

1491
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: you got three heads. I'm a little were like seventy.

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01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm thirty, bro, I'm got to be thirty three girls? Yeah?

1493
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: Now will you are you shooting toward five? Are you

1494
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: gonna shoot towards until you get a boy? Like? What's

1495
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: right now? What's in your mind? Are you just shooting

1496
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: toward Let's just get this one and make sure everything

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01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: comes out all right, Well, yeah, we're we're definitely focused

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: on this one for sure. Um and uh I do.

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01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: Me and Lauren both would love we would love to

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01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: adopt again, um, whenever the time was right. And uh yeah,

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01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean Laurens numbers five. I think when we get

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01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: to five, my wife will probably be like, we can

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01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: do six. That's just the kind of person my wife

1504
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: is and my brand. I'm going, we're art. How how

1505
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: are we gonna do this? Like we're gonna have to

1506
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: have nine tour buses for our girls on the road. Um,

1507
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: So my head goes to more of the the math

1508
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: of the whole situation. But I you know, having having girls, man,

1509
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: I think before we had kids, I always thought that

1510
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: I was meant to be the kind of the dad

1511
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: that had boys. Um. But now that I've had girls,

1512
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: my heart has softened so much and I have never

1513
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: I've never looked at anybody like I look at my girls.

1514
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: Like it is and nuts the the emotion that you

1515
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: feel when you're girl, when you put him down to

1516
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: bed and you say, all right, love you baby girl

1517
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: and they're like I love you, daddy, like it is

1518
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: just it is. It breaks your heart every single time.

1519
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: So in that aspect, I'm I'm beyond excited to have

1520
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: a girl, but I do look forward to hopefully having

1521
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: a boy one day. You have three kids, man, even

1522
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: know what to say? Right now? That's awesome. Well, um,

1523
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: we got just a couple of minutes left here, let's

1524
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 1: roll over. I I'd like to talk about a couple

1525
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: of things. One. Um. These are these will be kind

1526
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: of quickids. Just give me your thoughts on this. I

1527
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: feel like, and I've told this to you off of

1528
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: Mike and off camera to like, and you've one male

1529
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: Vocalist of the Year at the a c M S. Yeah, Like,

1530
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: I think you're your next one up for that Entertainer

1531
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: of the Year. And and the way this goes is

1532
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: you have to get in it before you can win it.

1533
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: You gotta be invited to the part. You don't win

1534
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: the party the first time you ever party. And I

1535
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: feel like you're now at that level. It's just the gatekeepers,

1536
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: whatever that means, because it changes all the time. They

1537
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: gotta say, all right, guy, that's kind of pushing the limits.

1538
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: You're pushing them. They just got it's wild. But it's

1539
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: your turn, Like, it's it's absolutely your turn. I appreciate that. Man.

1540
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: How do you feel when I say that? It's uh, well,

1541
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: first of all, I never to mean your thought anyone

1542
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: would ever say that about me. Um. But if I

1543
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: think back five years ago, that's everything that I was

1544
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: ever working towards. Anyways, the Entertainer of the Year is

1545
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: kind of the cherry on top of the awards at

1546
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: any awards show. UM. And I'll never forget the first

1547
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: time Luke Brian wanted UM. I'll never watched Jason Aldean

1548
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: went it for. I'll never forget watching Jason went it

1549
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: for the first time. And I think when I was

1550
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: touring of those people, I always knew. I was like, dude,

1551
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: these dudes, this is insane what they're doing, the people

1552
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: they're putting in these venues, the production that they have,

1553
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 1: the amount of hits that they have, and I feel

1554
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: like we're definitely not in that lane yet of having

1555
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 1: I think Aldana has like, what number one songs? Yeah,

1556
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: but you have thirteen number one songs, so you are.

1557
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: We're close. We're getting there, man, and we we work.

1558
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,959
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the James Brown documentary how hard

1559
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: he made his band work. I'm not like that hard

1560
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: on my band, but we work really hard. He would

1561
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: fire them in the show. Yeah, And I mean we

1562
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,479
Speaker 1: bring on choreographers, not even to teach us how to dance,

1563
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: but just how to teach our band where to be,

1564
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: when to be, how to move. Um, I mean our

1565
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: our our trumpet player named Sharifa is our hype man,

1566
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: and like literally like he's the person that introduces all

1567
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: the band members. I've never seen anybody in country music

1568
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: do that. And so it's like, how how every year

1569
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: do you how do you spend your month of rehearsal

1570
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: time making sure that the record that your show sounds

1571
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: exactly like the record with just a right just the

1572
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: right touch of live element. How do you make it

1573
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: to where even your ballads feel like up tempos? And

1574
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: how do you make the person in section three one

1575
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: go always playing a new song. Now it's time to

1576
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: go get a beer. And I feel like those are

1577
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: things when you can think about them, you really can

1578
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: work up a show, just like in in your in

1579
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: your stand up and in your bit you're just like,

1580
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: how do I make this the most intriguing, intriguing thing

1581
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: someone has ever watched? And we really have worked hard

1582
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 1: for that. Man, So even to be. Just like you said,

1583
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: invited to the party at some point in the future

1584
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: would be a huge win for us. But but we

1585
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: look forward to that. It should be now based on

1586
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: numbers that should have already been. But again, because you're

1587
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: so progressive, you have you know, one and seven, who's like, right,

1588
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: as long as you make that one and ten on

1589
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: one and eleven, you're in. Yeah, for sure. So like

1590
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: to me, you're there And I've told you I'm not

1591
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: even saying that because on this together, I just want

1592
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: to say that publicly with you in front of me.

1593
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: Thank you. Let me say before we leave on August four,

1594
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: we're hosting the c m A Fest together. That's right, um,

1595
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: as Bobby taught me everything that I know on that

1596
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: By the way, no I did it. I did anything

1597
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: you did. Ask you a million questions, but you're already good.

1598
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: It didn't matter. But you you helped me be great.

1599
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: So I appreciate it. August four, oh, people check it out.

1600
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: Not only does tr host it, he also like a

1601
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: boss gets up in plays. It's as you do it all.

1602
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: Thanks man, you do too. Man. Really, you've really I

1603
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 1: just want to say this because I feel like I

1604
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: don't know you have. You affirm a lot of people,

1605
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: and you don't get I don't know, you might get

1606
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: a lot of affirmation, but I just want to give

1607
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: you an encouraging word. You have inspired me to to

1608
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 1: do a lot of things I probably never would have

1609
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: done in the first place. Your openness. I haven't read

1610
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: the full book, but i've read up like chapter six,

1611
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of inspiring stuff in there. And

1612
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: I just love your story. I love the way you

1613
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: live life. I love that you're just unashamed, unashamedly, unabashedly

1614
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: you whatever word that is. And it's really inspiring to

1615
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people. It really is. So don't don't

1616
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: change you because you're you're You're pretty awesome. Well, thank you,

1617
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: welcome and I'm not comfortable with that. It's okay, just

1618
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: take it. I don't do well with um. Listen, we've

1619
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: done an hour and ten minutes. This has been a

1620
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: Jeff fun I had a blast. I could do this forever, man,

1621
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: this is so fun. You've went from high held flip

1622
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: flops to Thomas Rhett. Can I tell you something, the

1623
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: very first time I said, the very first time I

1624
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: saw your tattoo, I thought I said, h h ff

1625
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: from your old bands high held flip flops. I'm a

1626
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: massive fan, you know. I just when I saw it,

1627
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 1: I was like, holy crap, what does it say again?

1628
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: So my grandmother who adopted me for a while when

1629
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: my mom left, her name was Hazel Hurt and so,

1630
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: and she passed away at my mom when she died. Um,

1631
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: her name is Pam Hurt and so it's their initials

1632
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 1: on my arm, and have arkans on the back. And

1633
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: I have little letters mirror ball and back. When I

1634
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: one that because Sharin and I got that. Um, I

1635
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: gotta get a microphone, I promised the listeners because when

1636
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: I got put in the Radio Hall of Fame that

1637
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: I would get a microphone tattooed arm. I haven't done

1638
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: that yet. And then of course I have a big

1639
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: penis on my back. No you don't. It goes all

1640
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: the way from my belt all the way at to

1641
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: back of my neck. No it doesn't. You haven't seen

1642
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: the penis on back. This is real. You haven't seen

1643
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: the big I don't have a penis on my I

1644
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: was about to freak out. All right, listen, we've said

1645
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: it all. I feel like I appreciate your openness and

1646
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: your candor and congratulations on another baby. I appreciate that

1647
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: kind of get me one of those. I gotta get

1648
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: a girlfriend first, But I guess you don't have to

1649
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: have a girlfriend have a baby. There are a few

1650
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: ways you can do that. Um and uh yeah, it's

1651
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: it's it's been a good talk here. Thomas red At

1652
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: Thomas red Aikin's on Instagram. Be nice. He's not gonna

1653
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: shave his beard or fix the bill of his hat.

1654
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: I think we've learned that. Check him out on Cmafest

1655
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: August fourth, hosting and performing, and he's on the Very

1656
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: Hot Summer Tour, um, the VHS tour. I got a

1657
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: couple of buddies out there with on tour too. Russell's

1658
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: that there, huh Russell, Dustin and dust Yeah, and your dad. Um,

1659
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: we're good to see you, Bud. Thanks so much and

1660
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: a pleasure. Episode one nine with Thomas red Mm hmm