WEBVTT - #491 Packers Unscripted: Playoff bound

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only

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<v Speaker 1>West Hotkowits were coming to you here from our studios

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<v Speaker 1>at lambeau Field and West. We have a big Packers

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<v Speaker 1>victory to talk about over the Chicago Bears, but we

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<v Speaker 1>need to start the show by saying one thing. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are in the playoffs. They are green Bay gets

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<v Speaker 1>the win over Chicago, the Los Angeles Rams lose at Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers, regardless of what happened to the final

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks, although there's more to play for, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>are in the postseason for the first time since Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost emphatically, the Rams were beaten by soundly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, I went off on a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a tangent on Twitter on Sunday night. You may

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<v Speaker 1>or may not have seen it. You don't live your

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<v Speaker 1>life on social media as much as I do. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not. If there was ever a week in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, and we'll get to this Packer game, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about all the ins and outs of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody will be happy and good and we'll move on

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<v Speaker 1>with our week. But if there ever was a Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>that illustrates how it's important just to win games and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really matter what's happened in the past, it

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<v Speaker 1>was Week fifteen in the NFL, and I offer you

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<v Speaker 1>a number of different things into evidence for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rams appeared to finally be getting their footing right.

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<v Speaker 1>They going to Dallas, who, for all intents and purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>has really been struggling trying to hold onto the NFC,

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<v Speaker 1>A scuffling, scuffling Dallas Cowboys team, and the Cowboys just

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<v Speaker 1>do their things, dominate points on the board. Zeke Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>can't be stopped, Dak Prescott looks great, and they win.

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<v Speaker 1>Game was never close. The Rams now are on the

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<v Speaker 1>outskirts of the playoff hunt here as they try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep things going, hoping for a Packers victory now on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday or on next Monday night against uh the fIF Minnesotakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you get the San Francisco forty Niners, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best teams in the NFL. I think everybody can

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that, and they take on the Atlanta Falcons

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<v Speaker 1>at home at home. If there I put it on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>I got nothing. I cannot try to explain the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Falcons at all. I can't either, because if you took

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<v Speaker 1>away all the records and it just I just dropped

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<v Speaker 1>you on December two thousand nineteen, after teleporting you from

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<v Speaker 1>September one, and said here's the Falcons and the forty,

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<v Speaker 1>you would either think, A, maybe these were two bad

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<v Speaker 1>teams or B this was a potential, you know, big

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<v Speaker 1>ramification for the NFC. Yeah, and Atlanta just runs through,

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<v Speaker 1>not runs through, but finds a way to win against

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, pulls it out down the stretch. They the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Falcons have five wins in and two of them

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<v Speaker 1>are over the New Orleans Saints and the San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>forty Niners, both on the road. There is no explanation

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<v Speaker 1>for that except for this. It's the NFL. It's the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's bring us all back into lambeau Field. The

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<v Speaker 1>meeting between the Green Bay Packers and Chicago Bears historic

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<v Speaker 1>and the way I put it as the game ended

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, I said, and the Packers win. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a chaotic, strange fourth quarter after the Packers, who, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, going up against Chicago Bears team that had

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<v Speaker 1>been phenomenal coming out of halftime, the Packers outscore and

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<v Speaker 1>get two quick touchdowns that end up weighing heavily in

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<v Speaker 1>the favor of this game, and then the Bears get

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<v Speaker 1>going in the fourth quarter of the Packers hold them off.

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are eleven and three. They've clinched a playoff spot,

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<v Speaker 1>and now this week they can beat the Minnesota Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>when the NFC North. If they accomplish that, they can

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<v Speaker 1>now beat the Detroit Lions and be the number two

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<v Speaker 1>seed at worst. Right now, this is the NFL Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to win the games that are in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you. Doesn't matter how they look, doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly happens. You have to win. In the Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>Packers by hooker, by crook, the last three weeks have

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<v Speaker 1>been victorious, and they sit at eleven wins onto some

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and three, and very quickly, I'll just lay out

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<v Speaker 1>the scenarios as you just did as well, that there

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<v Speaker 1>are one of two ways the Packers can win the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC North in terms of controlling it themselves. They can

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<v Speaker 1>either beat the Minnesota Vikings next week, or they can

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Detroit Lions in week seventeen. If the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>win either of those games, they are the NFC North champs.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you also just said, if the Packers can

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<v Speaker 1>win both of those games, they will be no worse

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<v Speaker 1>than the two seed in the NFC and they will

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<v Speaker 1>get a first round by and then one seed is

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<v Speaker 1>actually still in play, very much in play because of

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<v Speaker 1>the forty Niners lost yesterday. But getting back to the

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<v Speaker 1>game at hand, the Packers and the Bears, as you

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<v Speaker 1>said it West, the Packers come out of the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room at halftime and they just came out swinging. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the end the first half. That second quarter was frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers had three consecutive drives to end the second

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<v Speaker 1>quarter that were in Chicago territory, and they came away

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<v Speaker 1>with no point on any of the three drives. They

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<v Speaker 1>go into the locker room only up seven to three,

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<v Speaker 1>when they had a chance, multiple chances to stretch out

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<v Speaker 1>the lead, to really start to assert themselves. They come

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<v Speaker 1>out of the locker room after halftime, bang five place

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three yards, banging five place sixty six yards, two touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's twenty one to three, and it's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>all those first half frustrations, you put them behind you.

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<v Speaker 1>You got two touchdowns, You're up to three. And all

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers really needed was one more score of any

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<v Speaker 1>kind in the fourth quarter, and they take all the

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<v Speaker 1>drama out of this one. Well, they didn't get that

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<v Speaker 1>one more score in the fourth quarter. The offense is struggling,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears defensive front started to assert itself in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter, the Bears offensively doing some things. They get

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<v Speaker 1>it to thirteen, and the game comes down to the

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it, the multilateral, the fumble

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<v Speaker 1>Rooski the the the last desperation played by the Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll be honest with us, we saw it on

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<v Speaker 1>the press box as it was unfolding, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit wider view than maybe what you see on television.

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<v Speaker 1>Saw it as it was unfolding. I wrote about it

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<v Speaker 1>in my postgame editorial. That was really really close, because

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<v Speaker 1>if Allen Robinson gets the lateral at the ten yard line,

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<v Speaker 1>if Horstead, the rookie tight end from Princeton, if he

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<v Speaker 1>laterals it to Robinson at the ten yard line instead

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<v Speaker 1>of taking a couple more steps, the Bears are in

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone and the game's coming down to a

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<v Speaker 1>two point conversion. But Channon Sullivan. Just as Horseted crosses

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<v Speaker 1>the ten yard line, Channon Sullivan and grabs and starts

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<v Speaker 1>to drag him down. His then attempted ladderal, which is

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<v Speaker 1>too late, ends up being forward. It's a forward fumble

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<v Speaker 1>at that point. Only he can recover it for the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears to to be able to benefit from the play.

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<v Speaker 1>Truman Williams recovers inside the five yard line for the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the gun mercifully sounds to end to end a

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<v Speaker 1>victory for the package. So a couple of things of

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<v Speaker 1>this one. If you're going to have a ladderal play,

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<v Speaker 1>there are two things you need to do in order

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<v Speaker 1>to be successful on it. You need numbers, is the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing. The Bears ended up getting numbers on that.

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<v Speaker 1>They had numbers where they needed them. Yeah, when they

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<v Speaker 1>got the ball to the middle of the field and

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<v Speaker 1>started moving to the right, they they had the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>As you say, the personnel was there to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get that ball into the end zone. The second thing, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is you need to have perfect execution, and the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>were not perfect. Uh, everything lined up and Tremon Williams

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<v Speaker 1>the first question he was asked, I think maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>the first interview of the post game locker room was

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<v Speaker 1>with Tremon and he said, yeah, we saw it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was close. That's just the reality of it. So but

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers did survive. They got through a Tremon was

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<v Speaker 1>the one to actually jump on that football at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that I take out of this game, though,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike h in addition to certainly they want to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to close teams out, you have to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that to make a deep, lengthy playoff run.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about this team though, and I said this

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<v Speaker 1>to our boss, my boss, Duke Bober after the game,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers are eleven and three, and everybody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how they've done that, and it's really not

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<v Speaker 1>that complicated. You can look at total defense, total offense.

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<v Speaker 1>You can look at those measurables, those archaic measurables, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not really going to tell you the whole story.

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<v Speaker 1>You can look at passer ratings, you can look at

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<v Speaker 1>offensive efficiency, all those things. The one thing that stands

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<v Speaker 1>out to me, though, is not something you can measure,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that in all three phases, at different intervals

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<v Speaker 1>of the season and occasionally in the same game, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers have been exceptional. They've had moments where they've been

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<v Speaker 1>exceptional on defense, they've been exceptional on special teams, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have been exceptional on offense. Teams that aren't good

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<v Speaker 1>in this league never really achieved that at all, at

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<v Speaker 1>least without any type of normal consistency. The Packers have that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just been a matter of tying it all together

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. In this game, I thought they

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<v Speaker 1>got off to a great start offensively. I thought defensively

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<v Speaker 1>they held them on three straight drives. They really were

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<v Speaker 1>making life difficult on Mitchell Trubisky, and they were not

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<v Speaker 1>allowing the Bears to get the running game going. The

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<v Speaker 1>second half, the Bears mounted a rally, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>only after the Packers were up by eighteen points. For

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<v Speaker 1>glamour points in terms of like beauty of a performance, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to score very high in that one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, it doesn't change

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<v Speaker 1>the outcome, and the outcome is the Packers are eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and three. Yeah. This is this is the way I

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<v Speaker 1>look at it West, because there's there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different narratives out there right now with regards to

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<v Speaker 1>this Packers team being eleven and three and where they

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<v Speaker 1>are and fighting for a division title in a first

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<v Speaker 1>round by there are There are a few different ways

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<v Speaker 1>you can look at this. You can say, Okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are the Packers are finding different ways to win.

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<v Speaker 1>They're scratching and claw and they're pulling out these close games.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is one of those things that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable into January. It's going to catch up with them

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<v Speaker 1>at some point that when you start playing the best teams,

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<v Speaker 1>the other playoff teams, that it's uh, that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>way to make a living in the playoffs. Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one way to look at it. Another way to

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<v Speaker 1>look at it is to say, okay, the Packers whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, that they have the chemistry, the belief, everything

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<v Speaker 1>they've got going on this way to to scratch and

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<v Speaker 1>claw and find a different way and have a different

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<v Speaker 1>hero every week. And and yeah, there are fits and

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<v Speaker 1>starts and things don't always look that great. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you keep finding ways to win it it builds on itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's contagious and and it is something that can continue

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<v Speaker 1>and you write it as long as you can. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's another way to look at it. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>way I prefer to look at things. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>look at it in either one of those ways. My thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you know, my mantra all season has been

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<v Speaker 1>optimism without expectations. With this first with the first year

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<v Speaker 1>head coach, and it says optimism without expectations, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to that. I appreciate. But the way the

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<v Speaker 1>way I look at I've said it on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it an insider inbox. This Packers team is

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<v Speaker 1>capable of playing at another level. They just haven't gotten there.

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<v Speaker 1>They've shown it in spurts, but they haven't put it

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<v Speaker 1>together for an entire game. They haven't put it together

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<v Speaker 1>for a stretch of of a few games. It's still

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<v Speaker 1>out there for them, and if they can find it,

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<v Speaker 1>neither of the first two options, the first two narratives

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<v Speaker 1>are going to matter because because it's going to put

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<v Speaker 1>them somewhere else. Now, those who would say, well, how

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<v Speaker 1>how can you believe that they can do that? Because

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<v Speaker 1>they've had so many chances and they haven't gotten there.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be skeptical. Five, You have every right

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<v Speaker 1>to be skeptical that they're not going to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that they're they're fourteen games in here, and

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<v Speaker 1>there hasn't been the evidence to convince anyone that they

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<v Speaker 1>can find it because they've had so many opportunities. So

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<v Speaker 1>the skeptics, I understand that. But I look at yesterday's

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<v Speaker 1>game West the Packers had. The Packers were playing a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty decent football team that had won three in a

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<v Speaker 1>row and four their last five, and the Bears were

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<v Speaker 1>playing for their season, and the Packers had raortunities in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half to dominate that game, and they had

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities in the second half to close it out and

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<v Speaker 1>put it away. Now, they didn't do either one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things, but they were in position to do both

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<v Speaker 1>of those, and it's just it's one more step. And

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds silly, and I get, like I say, I

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<v Speaker 1>get the skeptics, but they're not that far away. They too,

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, they really are. Now are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to get there? I don't know however far. If they

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<v Speaker 1>can get there, that's going to determine what January is

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<v Speaker 1>going to mean here with whatever playoff run has made.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the way, that's the way I see it,

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's still out there for them. Their best

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<v Speaker 1>football is still out there. If they can find it.

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<v Speaker 1>The narrative about this team, the way people are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at this team is going to change, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that people don't recognize is, Okay, if you

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<v Speaker 1>do get finally one of those really attractive wins, one

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<v Speaker 1>of those dominating performances, that's really the only thing left

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<v Speaker 1>out there right now. For Green Bay, They've won every

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<v Speaker 1>other way imaginable, exactly exactly they have they have found

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<v Speaker 1>they have found so many ways to win yesterday being

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<v Speaker 1>and as I've said a lot of times, they've won

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of games this year by being the better

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<v Speaker 1>team in the fourth quarter. They were not the better

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<v Speaker 1>team in the fourth quarter. Yesterday, they were the better

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<v Speaker 1>team by a long shot in the third quarter against

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<v Speaker 1>a team that had dominated third quarters all season long.

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<v Speaker 1>All you have to do is look at the statistics

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<v Speaker 1>to see what the Bears have done. The Packers were

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<v Speaker 1>the team that came out swinging in the third quarter

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<v Speaker 1>and gaining control. Fortunately then was enough. So again it

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<v Speaker 1>was just another way to win a game. So I

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<v Speaker 1>want to highlight a couple of performances on both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of all but before I do this for anybody out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll look into both of the cameras because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure which one Marvin is on right now. For

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that's like beating this drum about the identity, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give you an identity thing right here, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can you can put your own hat on the identity.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what it is. Look at turnover differential right

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<v Speaker 1>now in the NFL, not just Green Bay because they're

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<v Speaker 1>number two in the league right now against New England.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read you off, Mike, the top ten teams

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<v Speaker 1>and turnover differential, and I want you to tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what is the I'm in thread between all these teams.

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<v Speaker 1>You're ready, okay, buckled down? New England, Green Bay, Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans, Minnesota, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Tennessee, and Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh and Tennessee are kind of outliers right now. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else is either already clinched a playoff spot or on

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<v Speaker 1>the precipice of getting a playoff spot. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk identity. The identity of this year's team. The first thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I literally think it was the first thing that Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Petton said this season was they wanted to take the

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<v Speaker 1>ball away more this year. They have fifteen interceptions they

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<v Speaker 1>had seven last year. They've turned the ball, They've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to turn over the football more, whether it was forced,

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<v Speaker 1>almost anything like that. Their takeaway numbers are up. In

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<v Speaker 1>their giveaways our second fewest in the league right now

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<v Speaker 1>to New Orleans eight to nine. That's the identity. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why the Packs have been able to win

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<v Speaker 1>these games. And they wont turnover differential three to zero

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<v Speaker 1>again yesterday. If you don't give away the football and

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<v Speaker 1>you take it away and now you've got a punt

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<v Speaker 1>returner that can help you with field position, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to start winning some ballgames. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I say, there's there are The Packers have

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<v Speaker 1>been in position to play that next level, to take

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<v Speaker 1>their game to the next level. They haven't gotten there yet,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have to find it somehow. It's on Matt Lafleur,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on the coaches, it's on Aaron Rodgers to find

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<v Speaker 1>that somehow, and that is what is going to determine

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<v Speaker 1>whether in January, when they are playing against other playoff teams,

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<v Speaker 1>Some stars of the game to point out here from

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday's victory over the Bears. Offensively, Aaron Jones two rushing touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>He now had fourteen rushing touchdowns on the year and

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen total touchdowns. He's closing in two regular season games

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<v Speaker 1>to go. He's closing in on a mon Greens single

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<v Speaker 1>season touchdown record for the Green Bay Packers, which is twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have Davante Adams, who put up a

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<v Speaker 1>yard performance including a twenty nine yard touchdown catch on

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<v Speaker 1>a fourth down. It's actually a fourth down audible. Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers checked um, saw that Adams was one on one

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<v Speaker 1>in the slot against buster scrind screen scrind screw um.

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<v Speaker 1>The announcer said screen yesterday, I've I've heard it both ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I've yeah, absolutely, um, but a check and rather than

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<v Speaker 1>just throw the pass for the first down on fourth down,

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers goes for the home run. One on one, Adams

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<v Speaker 1>wins his route, makes the catch touchdown, so he gets

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred yard game and gets in the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, the Packers two most dynamic offensive perimeter are

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<v Speaker 1>players were the guys who got the job done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and those first two drives you're talking about. After the

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<v Speaker 1>second in the start of the second half, eight of

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<v Speaker 1>the ten targets were in their direction, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>through the run or the past. But between them and

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote about this for our game notes was Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Kumro with the forty nine yard catch, which coincidentally enough

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<v Speaker 1>that tied his career high. He also had the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine yard or last year against the Jet a touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>something about forty nine yards. That just agree with him

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<v Speaker 1>and Jake, But you know, one of those main things again,

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<v Speaker 1>they've just had a lot of different guys stepping up

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the course of the year. It happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>Kumro's moment there. But when you look at Davante Adams,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was exceptional in this game. He did

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<v Speaker 1>have I know one or two passes he wishes he

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<v Speaker 1>could have back, but for him to get him going

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty four yard or early on and then the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine yard touchdown was a big boost for this offense.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Aaron Jones, man, for a guy that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of labeled as a scap back, what he can

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<v Speaker 1>do in the red area now and in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>I called him a bull in a China shop on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just he is not easy to take

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<v Speaker 1>down for a guy that is only five nine, just

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<v Speaker 1>a hair over two pounds, I mean, he can make

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<v Speaker 1>that work for him. I mean, how many times this

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<v Speaker 1>year when the Packers have been I think yesterday it

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<v Speaker 1>was a twenty one yard touched on on, so they

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<v Speaker 1>were technically just outside the red zone. But how many

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<v Speaker 1>times this year when the Packers have been, say, in

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<v Speaker 1>between the ten and the twenty yard line in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone, have they handed it off to Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>and he makes he makes somebody miss and then boom,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the ends. I mean, the number of I'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to look it up, but the number of say,

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown runs of his that are like, you know, nine

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<v Speaker 1>yards plus where he's he's not just plowing in from

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<v Speaker 1>the one or two yard line every time he's He's

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<v Speaker 1>had a bunch of those this year, and he just

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<v Speaker 1>looks really impressive doing it. Yeah, and I'd be remiss

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<v Speaker 1>if I didn't also do a shot off for the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. I didn't get a chance to put this

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<v Speaker 1>in the game notes. It kind of bothers me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. I mean, Brian Blaga again doing a salad

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<v Speaker 1>job against Khalil Mack. Yeah, outstanding. I mean Elton Jenkins.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's some film nuts that are already putting

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<v Speaker 1>out some stuff on him and how he was able

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<v Speaker 1>to move the line of scrimmage, especially in some of

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<v Speaker 1>those red zone scenarios. Overall, I thought they did a

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<v Speaker 1>really nice job to give Rogers a play a pocket. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly there was yards. Matt Lafleur said it again, there's

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<v Speaker 1>things that were still left out there, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing the offensive line really peak at the right time.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to talk, though, Mike about Kenny Clark, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm used him as my locker room report. Kenny Clark

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<v Speaker 1>another two sacks, tying his career single game career high.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a guy that you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>trusting the process here. I mean, it was a rough

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<v Speaker 1>ten week stretch there. He was playing good football, but

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<v Speaker 1>he just didn't. He wasn't getting home. The Smiths were

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<v Speaker 1>really you know, knocking down that time clock to get

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<v Speaker 1>after the quarterback. Yeah, the personal stats weren't there for Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're starting to see those personal stats start

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<v Speaker 1>to pile. And in a blink of the eye, he

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<v Speaker 1>has five sacks on the season, eight of his fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>and a half career sacks coming in the month of December.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's just that's just amazing to me. He's

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<v Speaker 1>now and now it's more than half of his career

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<v Speaker 1>sacks are in one month or in the month, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think of December as a big month for sacks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, the conditions get tough, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're running the football more. And there's Kenny Clark making

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<v Speaker 1>an impact. Dean Lawry gets an interception. Packers weren't able

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything with it offensively, but that was a

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<v Speaker 1>critical play at a critical moment at the time. Ate

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<v Speaker 1>at least a little bit of clock and stop some

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<v Speaker 1>of the momentum for Chicago and Mike. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>turn into a weekly segment on these Monday shows. But

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Irvin again forty five yard kickoff return, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>longest in four calendar years. Uh, this young man just

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<v Speaker 1>comes in as a waiver claim. And after all the

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<v Speaker 1>issues and all the narrative and question marks about the

0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Packers return units, this guy comes in and he's been

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<v Speaker 1>a stud. And I actually asked Aaron Jones about this

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<v Speaker 1>because Jones is very effusive about his praise of of

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<v Speaker 1>Irvin the week before, and I kind of asked him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously he shares a position room with him,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was like, how do you know him? Like? What? What?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you feel that he's been following him going

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<v Speaker 1>back to San Jose State because when he was at UTEP,

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<v Speaker 1>those two are not youtup. I'm sorry, Uh Texas he yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas hel Passo. I should just said Texas Western. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's just whatever. No, But when he was he

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<v Speaker 1>was in college, both of those guys were among the

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<v Speaker 1>league leaders in rushing one year and he was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like comparing himself to this Tyler Irvin guy that

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<v Speaker 1>he had no idea who he was. And then ever

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<v Speaker 1>since then, he's kind of tracked his career. He comes

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<v Speaker 1>in now and has been making a big impact here

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<v Speaker 1>on these returning and it's the past two weeks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well I want to I I do. We do need

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<v Speaker 1>to say certainly defensively, because the Packers offense started to

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<v Speaker 1>struggle in the fourth quarter after a very dominant third quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>They couldn't get that extra score like I was talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>to give them that little bit of distance they needed.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers defense had to stop the Chicago Bears three

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<v Speaker 1>times in the fourth quarter with the one score lead,

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<v Speaker 1>with the eight point lead, you had Dean Lowry make

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<v Speaker 1>the incredible interception kind of off of a like a

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<v Speaker 1>zone drop, the type of thing almost and then not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it would have been a heck of a

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<v Speaker 1>play just if he had batted the past down. But

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.399
<v Speaker 1>he gets the gets the myths up there and then

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<v Speaker 1>is able to to make the catch off the deflection

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<v Speaker 1>and juggling it on the way down, and he gets

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<v Speaker 1>the interception. The Packers unfortunately don't get a score out

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<v Speaker 1>of that. They punt the Bears back to the five

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<v Speaker 1>yard line. The Bears drive out to midfeet yield, but

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<v Speaker 1>then the Packers get the stop there. A turnover on

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<v Speaker 1>downs ends up in a fourth and ten. They get

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<v Speaker 1>the stop, so they stop him there and then they

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<v Speaker 1>end up getting the third stop of the late fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter with the um the multilateral play there at the

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<v Speaker 1>very end. So Packers defense did give up ten points

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter, but because the offense wasn't able

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<v Speaker 1>to wasn't able to finish this one off the defense

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<v Speaker 1>needed to get three stops there down the stretch and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and the unit was able to come through and if

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else, Uh, certainly I know there's yardage there that

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<v Speaker 1>the defense would love to add back. Mitchell Robinski was

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<v Speaker 1>able to get into a rhythm Alan Robinson and also

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<v Speaker 1>um Anthony Miller both over hundred yards receiving. But the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing, Mike, that was the key I thought to

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<v Speaker 1>that is they didn't break for an explosive sixty seventy

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<v Speaker 1>yard touchdown. They have at least made the Bears milk

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<v Speaker 1>the clock out to be able to put themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>a position to ice that game. Yeah, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth saying too quickly before we go eight quarters

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<v Speaker 1>against the Chicago Bears. Packers defense allowed touchdown Chicago and

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the eighth quarter of those eight quarters.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really good defensive effort that uh, that has

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<v Speaker 1>set up the Packers nicely to have a shot to

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<v Speaker 1>win the division here because they beat the defending division

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<v Speaker 1>champs twice with some really good defense. Absolutely, yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be in for a stiff test this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens with Delvin Cook he left with

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<v Speaker 1>the shoulder injury. But certainly Kirk Cousins as of late

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<v Speaker 1>has been playing better weapons there that they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to account for. But defensively, if they were looking to

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit of swagger back, the last three

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<v Speaker 1>games have not allowed more than fifteen points in any

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<v Speaker 1>of those contests. We can talk about yards, you can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about all these different scenarios, but it ultimately comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to the points on the scoreboard, and the last

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<v Speaker 1>three games the Packers have their defense has given them

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to win these games. Yeah. Well, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this upcoming matchup with the Vikings as the

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<v Speaker 1>week goes along. We'll also take a little bit bigger

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<v Speaker 1>look at the NFC playoff picture after the Saints play

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday Night Football, so we'll get to that on

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow show as well, but for now we will call

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<v Speaker 1>it a wrap up this edition of Packers on Script

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<v Speaker 1>content for WES, I'm Mike. Thanks for tuning in everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next time. H