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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only

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Speaker 1: West Hotkowits were coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. We have a big Packers

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Speaker 1: victory to talk about over the Chicago Bears, but we

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Speaker 1: need to start the show by saying one thing. The

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Speaker 1: Packers are in the playoffs. They are green Bay gets

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Speaker 1: the win over Chicago, the Los Angeles Rams lose at Dallas,

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Speaker 1: and the Packers, regardless of what happened to the final

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Speaker 1: two weeks, although there's more to play for, the Packers

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Speaker 1: are in the postseason for the first time since Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: first and foremost emphatically, the Rams were beaten by soundly.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, I went off on a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a tangent on Twitter on Sunday night. You may

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Speaker 1: or may not have seen it. You don't live your

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Speaker 1: life on social media as much as I do. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I do not. If there was ever a week in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and we'll get to this Packer game, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about all the ins and outs of it, and

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Speaker 1: everybody will be happy and good and we'll move on

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Speaker 1: with our week. But if there ever was a Sunday

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Speaker 1: that illustrates how it's important just to win games and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter what's happened in the past, it

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Speaker 1: was Week fifteen in the NFL, and I offer you

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Speaker 1: a number of different things into evidence for this one.

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Speaker 1: The Rams appeared to finally be getting their footing right.

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Speaker 1: They going to Dallas, who, for all intents and purposes,

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Speaker 1: has really been struggling trying to hold onto the NFC,

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Speaker 1: A scuffling, scuffling Dallas Cowboys team, and the Cowboys just

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Speaker 1: do their things, dominate points on the board. Zeke Elliott

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Speaker 1: can't be stopped, Dak Prescott looks great, and they win.

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Speaker 1: Game was never close. The Rams now are on the

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Speaker 1: outskirts of the playoff hunt here as they try to

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Speaker 1: keep things going, hoping for a Packers victory now on

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Speaker 1: Sunday or on next Monday night against uh the fIF Minnesotakes.

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Speaker 1: Then you get the San Francisco forty Niners, one of

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Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL. I think everybody can

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Speaker 1: agree with that, and they take on the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: at home at home. If there I put it on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: I got nothing. I cannot try to explain the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Falcons at all. I can't either, because if you took

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Speaker 1: away all the records and it just I just dropped

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Speaker 1: you on December two thousand nineteen, after teleporting you from

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Speaker 1: September one, and said here's the Falcons and the forty,

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Speaker 1: you would either think, A, maybe these were two bad

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Speaker 1: teams or B this was a potential, you know, big

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Speaker 1: ramification for the NFC. Yeah, and Atlanta just runs through,

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Speaker 1: not runs through, but finds a way to win against

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, pulls it out down the stretch. They the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons have five wins in and two of them

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Speaker 1: are over the New Orleans Saints and the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty Niners, both on the road. There is no explanation

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Speaker 1: for that except for this. It's the NFL. It's the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and let's bring us all back into lambeau Field. The

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Speaker 1: meeting between the Green Bay Packers and Chicago Bears historic

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Speaker 1: and the way I put it as the game ended

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, I said, and the Packers win. It was

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Speaker 1: a chaotic, strange fourth quarter after the Packers, who, by

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Speaker 1: been phenomenal coming out of halftime, the Packers outscore and

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Speaker 1: get two quick touchdowns that end up weighing heavily in

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Speaker 1: the favor of this game, and then the Bears get

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Speaker 1: going in the fourth quarter of the Packers hold them off.

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Speaker 1: Packers are eleven and three. They've clinched a playoff spot,

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Speaker 1: and now this week they can beat the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 1: when the NFC North. If they accomplish that, they can

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Speaker 1: now beat the Detroit Lions and be the number two

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Speaker 1: seed at worst. Right now, this is the NFL Mike.

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Speaker 1: You have to win the games that are in front

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Speaker 1: of you. Doesn't matter how they look, doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: exactly happens. You have to win. In the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Packers by hooker, by crook, the last three weeks have

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Speaker 1: been victorious, and they sit at eleven wins onto some

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Speaker 1: eleven and three, and very quickly, I'll just lay out

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Speaker 1: the scenarios as you just did as well, that there

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Speaker 1: NFC North in terms of controlling it themselves. They can

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Speaker 1: either beat the Minnesota Vikings next week, or they can

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Speaker 1: But as you also just said, if the Packers can

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Speaker 1: actually still in play, very much in play because of

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners lost yesterday. But getting back to the

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Speaker 1: game at hand, the Packers and the Bears, as you

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Speaker 1: the end the first half. That second quarter was frustrating.

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Speaker 1: The Packers had three consecutive drives to end the second

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Speaker 1: all those first half frustrations, you put them behind you.

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Speaker 1: You got two touchdowns, You're up to three. And all

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Speaker 1: the Packers really needed was one more score of any

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Speaker 1: kind in the fourth quarter, and they take all the

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Speaker 1: drama out of this one. Well, they didn't get that

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Speaker 1: one more score in the fourth quarter. The offense is struggling,

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Speaker 1: the Bears defensive front started to assert itself in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, the Bears offensively doing some things. They get

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, the multilateral, the fumble

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with us, we saw it on

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Speaker 1: in my postgame editorial. That was really really close, because

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Speaker 1: if Allen Robinson gets the lateral at the ten yard line,

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Speaker 1: first thing. The Bears ended up getting numbers on that.

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Speaker 1: As you say, the personnel was there to be able

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Speaker 1: with Tremon and he said, yeah, we saw it. It

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Speaker 1: the Packers did survive. They got through a Tremon was

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Speaker 1: The thing that I take out of this game, though,

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Speaker 1: The thing about this team though, and I said this

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Speaker 1: the Packers are eleven and three, and everybody wants to

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Speaker 1: figure out how they've done that, and it's really not

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Speaker 1: that complicated. You can look at total defense, total offense.

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Speaker 1: You can look at those measurables, those archaic measurables, and

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Speaker 1: You can look at passer ratings, you can look at

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Speaker 1: offensive efficiency, all those things. The one thing that stands

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Speaker 1: and that's that in all three phases, at different intervals

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Speaker 1: of the season and occasionally in the same game, the

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Speaker 1: Packers have been exceptional. They've had moments where they've been

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Speaker 1: exceptional on defense, they've been exceptional on special teams, and

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Speaker 1: It's just been a matter of tying it all together

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Speaker 1: only after the Packers were up by eighteen points. For

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Speaker 1: They're scratching and claw and they're pulling out these close games.

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Speaker 1: But this is one of those things that it's not

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Speaker 1: at some point that when you start playing the best teams,

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Speaker 1: the other playoff teams, that it's uh, that's not a

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Speaker 1: that's one way to look at it. Another way to

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Speaker 1: it is, that they have the chemistry, the belief, everything

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Speaker 1: It's contagious and and it is something that can continue

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Speaker 1: and you write it as long as you can. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's another way to look at it. This is the

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Speaker 1: way I prefer to look at things. I don't really

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Speaker 1: look at it in either one of those ways. My thing,

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Speaker 1: and as you know, my mantra all season has been

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Speaker 1: look forward to that. I appreciate. But the way the

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Speaker 1: I've said it an insider inbox. This Packers team is

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Speaker 1: capable of playing at another level. They just haven't gotten there.

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Speaker 1: well I want to I I do. We do need

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Speaker 1: They couldn't get that extra score like I was talking about,

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Speaker 1: The Packers defense had to stop the Chicago Bears three

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Speaker 1: times in the fourth quarter with the one score lead,

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Speaker 1: with the eight point lead, you had Dean Lowry make

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Speaker 1: the incredible interception kind of off of a like a

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Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been a heck of a

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Speaker 1: the interception. The Packers unfortunately don't get a score out

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Speaker 1: of that. They punt the Bears back to the five

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Speaker 1: then the Packers get the stop there. A turnover on

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Speaker 1: the stop, so they stop him there and then they

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Speaker 1: very end. So Packers defense did give up ten points

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, but because the offense wasn't able

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Speaker 1: to wasn't able to finish this one off the defense

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Speaker 1: needed to get three stops there down the stretch and uh,

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Speaker 1: nothing else, Uh, certainly I know there's yardage there that

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Speaker 1: the defense would love to add back. Mitchell Robinski was

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Speaker 1: able to get into a rhythm Alan Robinson and also

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Speaker 1: um Anthony Miller both over hundred yards receiving. But the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing, Mike, that was the key I thought to

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Speaker 1: that is they didn't break for an explosive sixty seventy

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Speaker 1: the clock out to be able to put themselves in

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Speaker 1: a position to ice that game. Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's worth saying too quickly before we go eight quarters

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Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears. Packers defense allowed touchdown Chicago and

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Speaker 1: it was in the eighth quarter of those eight quarters.

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Speaker 1: So it's really good defensive effort that uh, that has

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Speaker 1: set up the Packers nicely to have a shot to

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Speaker 1: win the division here because they beat the defending division

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Speaker 1: champs twice with some really good defense. Absolutely, yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be in for a stiff test this week.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with Delvin Cook he left with

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Speaker 1: the shoulder injury. But certainly Kirk Cousins as of late

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Speaker 1: has been playing better weapons there that they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to account for. But defensively, if they were looking to

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Speaker 1: get a little bit of swagger back, the last three

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Speaker 1: games have not allowed more than fifteen points in any

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Speaker 1: of those contests. We can talk about yards, you can

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Speaker 1: talk about all these different scenarios, but it ultimately comes

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Speaker 1: down to the points on the scoreboard, and the last

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Speaker 1: three games the Packers have their defense has given them

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Speaker 1: a chance to win these games. Yeah. Well, we'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about this upcoming matchup with the Vikings as the

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Speaker 1: week goes along. We'll also take a little bit bigger

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Speaker 1: look at the NFC playoff picture after the Saints play

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football, so we'll get to that on

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Speaker 1: tomorrow show as well, but for now we will call

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Speaker 1: it a wrap up this edition of Packers on Script

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Speaker 1: and be sure to follow all of our coverage of

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Speaker 1: us on iTunes and other podcast services, and check out

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Speaker 1: the Packers YouTube channel for all sorts of great video

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Speaker 1: content for WES, I'm Mike. Thanks for tuning in everybody.

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