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Speaker 3: way back. Welcome to the twenty mil Huddle Podcast presented

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Speaker 3: by Microsoft, and I am very happy to welcome in

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Speaker 3: Dan Miller for our key matchup segment. Normally this is

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Speaker 3: where I say, you know week sixteen, Week seventeen, Week

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Speaker 3: eighteen of the twenty The Huddle Podcast. There are no

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Speaker 3: letters associating with this one, Dan. It is playoff time

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Speaker 3: in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: It is the.

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Speaker 3: Look, you've been a part of this for a long time,

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Speaker 3: a lot longer than I have. You've seen a little

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Speaker 3: bit more bad than you have good. Just how fun

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Speaker 3: has this ride been? One of my favorite things every

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Speaker 3: this has been a fun ride for you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to be here, and like you just alluded to, Man,

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to be anywhere this type of year. I mean,

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Speaker 5: three years and to watch them kind of finish the

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Speaker 5: I wont a playoff game. Teams win divisions all the time.

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Speaker 5: But I think more than anything, it's for me. It's

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Speaker 5: They have endured a lot, They've taken a lot of

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what that atmosphere is going

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Speaker 5: And certainly I think Alexandeloni has been very clear and

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Speaker 5: Yes, And I think Frank Ragnow gives you a lot

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Speaker 5: every week talented pass rushing defensive lineman. Yeah, Frank Ragnow

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Speaker 5: their turner in Aaron Donald seventeen sacks between them. That's

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Speaker 3: You know. Now those edge guys you know, can get

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Speaker 4: All that kind of stuff. Okay, you know what it is.

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Speaker 5: And I always say, you know, when when those guys

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 4: That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go to this one. I'm on Ross

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Speaker 3: But in my opinion, if he can't, this has I'm

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Speaker 3: You know a guy that that says, look it, it's

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Speaker 4: Handled the middle together.

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Speaker 3: If he doesn't have him, I just get this sense

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Speaker 4: If we're down a guy.

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Speaker 1: Just gets more intense.

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Speaker 5: And it's never like he's not intense, because he always is,

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Speaker 5: Think that people cast doubt upon him. It's almost like

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Speaker 5: But I think amn Ra understands, depending upon the situation

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. Forty eight targets on Lake this year,

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Speaker 1: And he'll be ready for this too.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, if you know you're going up against

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Speaker 3: All Right, we talked about Aaron Donald, Let's talk about

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Speaker 3: Detroit's defensive guy. You know, when you look at guys

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Speaker 4: But I think when you look at.

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Speaker 1: It's the other guys that have to step up.

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Speaker 5: means first down, second down, third down. That means against

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Speaker 5: the run, that means defending the pass, and that means

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Speaker 5: harassing Stafford. It's gonna take everything. But that's what this

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Speaker 5: time of year is all about. You don't go in

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Speaker 5: and win a game by playing half decent. You go

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Speaker 5: in win a game by playing well and out playing

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Speaker 5: the team across.

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Speaker 3: From and make them drive the football. Don't give up

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Speaker 3: the big chunk plays, the big ones. Look they come

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Speaker 3: in there, they have played drive, scoring drive thirteen to fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Will you tip your cap, Matthew, good job.

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Speaker 4: You did it.

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Speaker 3: Limit the big plays too, and I think that'll be

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Speaker 3: big upfront, getting the pressure on them, not letting things

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Speaker 3: develop in the secondary and let the big plays.

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Speaker 1: Come a huge problem lately.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about it next, because let's say our

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Speaker 3: last key matchup in this one is Cam Sutton Lions

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Speaker 3: quarter cornerback versus Pooka Nakua, who is having a heck

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Speaker 3: of a rookie season.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. How does that kid fall that far in the draft?

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Speaker 4: What was he? Sixth round?

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Speaker 2: Fifth?

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Speaker 4: Fifth?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fifth, fifth round? I mean it's and he is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Run after the catch, fly after the catch, fly after

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Speaker 3: the catch, and it's so interesting the way that they

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Speaker 3: will bring him in tight to the line and line

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Speaker 3: him up.

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Speaker 1: Right there, and then he's so shifty.

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Speaker 5: He has the entire field in front of him to

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Speaker 5: go left, right, middle, and you have to work with him,

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Speaker 5: and you know, one shake the shoulders, he's going one way,

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Speaker 5: you're going the other. And then Stafford knows how to

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Speaker 5: find him. It's just he's se something else to watch.

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Speaker 5: And look, we know Sean McVay is outstanding at dialing

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Speaker 5: up offense. We know how good he is, and he's

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Speaker 5: going to be ready for the Lions. He has seen

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Speaker 5: their weaknesses, so the Lions are going to have to

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Speaker 5: be ready to deal with that. And just watching their

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Speaker 5: offense closely and looking at a couple of games, their

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Speaker 5: formations really caught my eye. The way they move him

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Speaker 5: around and just the freedom they give him when he's

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Speaker 5: you know, everything's kind of condensed and in tight and

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Speaker 5: just how good he is at that point and how

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Speaker 5: he and Stafford are on the same page when he

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Speaker 5: makes a move. He's an amazing rookie. It's it's really

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Speaker 5: one of the best stories in the NFL this year

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Speaker 5: for a guy to come in and do what he's

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Speaker 5: done as a fifth round draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Fourth in receiving yards one thy four hundred and eighty six,

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Speaker 3: fourth in touchdowns with ten, sixth and twenty five, plus

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Speaker 3: receptions with fourteen. He's got a pretty good guy next

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Speaker 3: to him, Cooper Cup too. He's been doing it for

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Speaker 3: a long time too, And I think that's what makes

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Speaker 3: it a little bit hard.

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Speaker 4: You can't just focus in on.

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Speaker 3: Uh Kooka because it's not like a Justin Jefferson situation

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Speaker 3: where you know that's the guy and that's the guy

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Speaker 3: that that's probably gonna end up killing you.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 3: Cooper Cup has done it at a high level for

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Speaker 3: a long time too, and I think they play off

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Speaker 3: each other and their ability to play every single spot

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Speaker 3: X y Z. I think allows McVeigh to move them

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Speaker 3: around and find matchups. And I think it's going to

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Speaker 3: be really difficult for Cam Sutton, for Aaron Glen to to,

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Speaker 3: you know, not find yourselves in a one on one

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Speaker 3: match up here and there, and it's incumbent on them

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Speaker 3: to win those matches.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 5: And then you know it goes back to can you

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Speaker 5: make them hurry? Can you make Stafford have to cut

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Speaker 5: it loose before he wants to up front? And then

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Speaker 5: also that CB two position, you know, if it's kinda

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Speaker 5: vildor out there. Yeah, we know Matthew he's gonna look

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Speaker 5: for the weak link right right now, they've gone through

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Speaker 5: several CB twos.

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Speaker 1: It's ville door.

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Speaker 5: We saw him matched up one on one with Jefferson,

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Speaker 5: which was unfortunate on that fourth down last week.

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Speaker 1: They ended up being a touchdown.

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Speaker 5: So you know, if if you have Sutton on ten,

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Speaker 5: or you have Sutton on Nikua, then vildor something and

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Speaker 5: that might be where Matthew looks because we know how

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Speaker 5: he plays and we know what he does back there.

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Speaker 5: So it's going to be incumbent upon them, and this

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Speaker 5: is where you need your safeties to help out. This

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Speaker 5: is where I think Aaron Glenn's going to get creative.

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Speaker 5: He's kind of told us in his press conference this week,

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Speaker 5: you just have to wait and see how we handle

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Speaker 5: those three safeties. And I have a feeling we might

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Speaker 5: see them on the field together and see what they

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Speaker 5: do to kind of try to slow this passing game down.

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Speaker 5: And there are also guys that will come up and

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Speaker 5: support the run, so I think he'd be comfortable there.

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Speaker 5: So there's a chess match here, and I think that

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Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn, I think he knows he has to cover

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Speaker 5: some things up a little bit in that secondary. So

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to be interesting to see how

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Speaker 5: he plays that.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be so fun.

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Speaker 1: This is where you want to be.

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Speaker 5: And if we keep going from here, Tim, we would

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Speaker 5: sit down next week and talk about all the challenges

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Speaker 5: that the next team that they play will present. But

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Speaker 5: that's what this year is. This time of year's about.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing easy. There's nothing that nobody you would look

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Speaker 5: at and say, Okay, that would be something. I was

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Speaker 5: watching the game between the Rams and the forty nine

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Speaker 5: ers last week and I was thinking, Okay, if they lose,

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Speaker 5: then the Packers are coming in. Packers are playing great

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Speaker 5: football right now. They came in here and you know,

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Speaker 5: knocked us down on our home field on Thanksgiving Day,

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Speaker 5: so that wasn't gonna be easy. We'd be sitting here

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Speaker 5: talking about their defense. And Jordan love playing good football.

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Speaker 5: So look, all the things we're talking about is not

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Speaker 5: doom and gloom. It's about the challenge and how you

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Speaker 5: answer that challenge this time of year.

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Speaker 3: Well, he is the voice of the Lions, he is

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Speaker 3: the sports striker at Fox two. Does a great job

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Speaker 3: with everything.

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Speaker 4: I enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: You do too, and this was fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is I'm glad you could do

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Speaker 3: it because you are always a popular one on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear your calls. Hopefully it's a

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Speaker 3: winning call late on something great that happens. And we're

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Speaker 3: on to the next one. But thank you much so

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Speaker 3: much for joining me. I appreciate it. We'll be back

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Speaker 3: with Jordan rud Riek and a couple of players. Welcome

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Speaker 3: back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft,

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Speaker 3: and I'm very happy to welcome in Jordan Redriek. She

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Speaker 3: does a great job for The Athletic, covering everything Los

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Speaker 3: Angeles Rams. She also is host of the eleven Personnel

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Speaker 3: podcast and has a great feature up on The Athletic

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Speaker 3: right now on Matthew Stafford Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Welcome in. Thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 6: I am so excited for this weekend. I'm sure you

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Speaker 6: are too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little different around here. First playoff game

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Speaker 3: obviously in thirty years, and you better prepare yourself for

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Speaker 3: a crazy environment. I know Sean McVeigh and everybody talked

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Speaker 3: about that environment at the Superdome in twenty eighteen for

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Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game. The people in Detroit are going

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Speaker 3: to rival that they are hungry for this and it

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Speaker 3: should be a crazy atmosphere.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it really will be, I will say, and not

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Speaker 6: too belittle what the Rams are trying to rebuild out

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Speaker 6: in Los Angeles after moving back. But they have been

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Speaker 6: used to SOFI being a destination stadium. They have been

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Speaker 6: used to playing on their silent compt especially in the

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Speaker 6: earlier parts of the year. It was cool at the

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Speaker 6: end of the year seeing this upswell of support and

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Speaker 6: so that they were off their silent count through the

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Speaker 6: last part of the year and then so now are

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Speaker 6: back to Okay, we're in a hostile road environment. We

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Speaker 6: are going to be on our silent count, and so

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Speaker 6: that's quite the topic of conversation this week out in

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Speaker 6: Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: Well, there are a few topics of conversation. Obviously, there's

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Speaker 3: a couple of storylines. And obviously number one is you know,

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Speaker 3: Lion's long snapper Jake McQuaid, you know, revenge game for

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Speaker 3: the Valet Rams, right, I mean, that's that's the number

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Speaker 3: one there. No, let's obviously Matthew Stafford and Jared Golf.

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Speaker 3: You know, two guys traded for each other couple years ago,

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Speaker 3: and I was after this matchup was set, Jordan and

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Speaker 3: I I went back and looked at the trade and

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Speaker 3: it's not often when you see a trade really work

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Speaker 3: out for both clubs.

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Speaker 4: I mean you look at obviously.

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Speaker 3: With the Rams, you know, and and you know being

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Speaker 3: able to win the Super Bowl and and Matthew's first

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Speaker 3: year there, but then Detroit being able to get a

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Speaker 3: little bit younger at quarterback, and Jared Golf has played

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Speaker 3: at a pro Bowl level the last two years, obviously

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Speaker 3: has them at this point where they haven't been in

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Speaker 3: thirty years and really is a culture fit here. It's

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Speaker 3: really been the best of both worlds for both teams.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I love the idea that we're also amidst all

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Speaker 6: of this, we're also covering the fallout or the evolution

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Speaker 6: of one of the few win win trades in NFL history, frankly,

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Speaker 6: and it really to me, it's all about pace. Matthew

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Speaker 6: Stafford and where he was in his career and the

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Speaker 6: elite level at which he could read defenses, the way

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Speaker 6: that he could process the game, the way that he

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Speaker 6: could make any throw at any time, matched Sean mcvay's

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Speaker 6: pace to get back to the Super Bowl by any

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Speaker 6: means necessary, no.

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Speaker 7: Matter the cost, personally or professionally.

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Speaker 6: And Jared Goff his pace no longer lined up with

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Speaker 6: Sean mcvaye, but it did line up with a team

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Speaker 6: that was developing, going through some adverse getting built from

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Speaker 6: the ground up, a core of players that all could

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Speaker 6: grow and be in a community together as they built something.

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Speaker 7: And so it was interesting.

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Speaker 6: It kind of was like he went, even though we

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Speaker 6: didn't realize it at the time, he went to the

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Speaker 6: place that he most needed to be and was the

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Speaker 6: best fit possible for him and that place he was

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Speaker 6: in in his career to develop into all of the

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Speaker 6: qualities he's always had tough mindedness and leadership and all

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Speaker 6: of those things, but really to hone them and develop

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Speaker 6: them in a new place, in a place where a

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Speaker 6: core of young teammates and some older veterans were growing

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Speaker 6: up with him and around him into that leadership role

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 7: And so now you're seeing this.

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Speaker 6: Juggernaut that the Lions are with Jared Goff as one

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Speaker 6: of their core leaders on their team. Meanwhile, Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 6: comes to Los Angeles and is immediately the star quarterback

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Speaker 6: that the city is craving for. The Los Angeles Rams

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Speaker 6: and can make any throw, has the dark chaos ar

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Speaker 6: mangles that we all know and have seen it and

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Speaker 6: come to appreciate, and really meets that moment within Sean

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Speaker 6: mcvay's system, and with that collaboration of the things that

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Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford sees and understands about the game, combined with

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Speaker 6: what Sean McVay sees and understands about the game, reinventing

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Speaker 6: this offense over and over again so that it's first

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Speaker 6: in the league and in so many qualities and in

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Speaker 6: so many areas because of the way that they collaborate,

659
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 6: the way that they think together, the way that they

660
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 6: can build and design things, And it's been so fascinating

661
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 6: to watch and really fun for both teams.

662
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Speaker 3: You know, I was around Matthew obviously for twelve years

663
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: here in Detroit, and you know, it's pretty much is

664
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Speaker 3: even keeled as a guy can get at that position.

665
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Speaker 3: I'm just curious, you know, you know you've been around

666
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: him now for a while and probably talk to him

667
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: here this week. Just what do you what do you

668
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: guess are the emotions with him? You know, coming back

669
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Speaker 3: here a place that he started his career, obviously had

670
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of success and holds a

671
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: lot of the passing records, it's kind of a weird dynamic.

672
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: You know, they obviously played in twenty twenty one, but

673
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: that was in Los Angeles. Coming back home is a

674
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: little bit different. What do you expect the feelings for

675
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: Matthew to be.

676
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, he's going to say all the all

677
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 6: the right things up at the lectern right like he

678
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 6: always has.

679
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 7: But if you are a human being and you have

680
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 7: a pulse in.

681
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 6: Your body, you will feel something going back, going back

682
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 6: to this, and I think, really, what really comes through

683
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 6: and has always come through from the second he got

684
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 6: to La and even so now that they are competitors

685
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 6: here in this high stakes, you know, only one survives game,

686
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 6: and that is that he loves Detroit. He has always

687
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 6: loved Detroit. It's the place where outside of when you're

688
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 6: growing up in childhood, you do your second growing up,

689
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 6: but place that shapes.

690
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Speaker 7: You as an adult.

691
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 6: That is so clear coming from him, you know, it

692
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 6: is so I think powerful for him as a person.

693
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 6: Putting aside and compartmentalizing a way, the fact that they

694
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 6: need to win this game, that they are going to

695
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 6: be trying, each team is going to be trying to

696
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 6: destroy the other team, putting aside that, I think for

697
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 6: a city itself, what really comes through and has always

698
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 6: come through from him is that he is so happy

699
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 6: for the city itself to be experiencing this. I think that,

700
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 6: you know, as a human, and I'm putting I don't

701
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 6: want to put words in his mouth.

702
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 7: This is me saying this.

703
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 6: As a human, you'd be like, man, I wonder what

704
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 6: that would have felt like if I did that. But

705
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 6: at the same time, you know, life doesn't work that way.

706
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 6: It's not linear, and I think that's one of the

707
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 6: most impressive things about Matthew Stafford. We've seen it on

708
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 6: the field for years and years, and we see it

709
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 6: now in the way that this trajectory of his story

710
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 6: is happening. Life is not linear game. Football games are

711
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 6: not linear. Football is a crazy, brutal, chaotic, awesome mess.

712
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 6: And Matthew Stafford is able to expertly navigate that. And

713
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Speaker 6: I have no doubt that he will be able to

714
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Speaker 6: do that with maybe some emotion as he walks out

715
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Speaker 6: onto the fields on.

716
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Speaker 4: Sunday, I'm sure there will be.

717
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously a big storyline in Detroit here is some

718
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: injury stuff with obviously you know Sam Laporta, their their dynamic,

719
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: record setting rookie tight end, Khalif Raymond, their punt returner.

720
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 3: But last with some injuries too, you know Jordan Fuller.

721
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: That's maybe a little bit bigger of a deal than

722
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: probably some people in Detroit here realized. I mean, there's

723
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: a safety you started seventeen games for you guys, I

724
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: think lead you in turnovers, second in tackles. Just what's

725
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: the injury status there? In Los Angeles? Are they going

726
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: to be coming here to Detroit healthy or is it

727
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: yet to be.

728
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 7: Determined relatively healthy.

729
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 6: But that Jordan Fuller injury, the ankle, it could be

730
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 6: potentially really significant.

731
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 7: By the way, Brad Holmes was the one.

732
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 6: Who found Jordan Fuller in the sixth round and he

733
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 6: became a starter as a rookie and then continued that trajectory.

734
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 7: So shout out to Brad Holmes.

735
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: He's done that a couple of times here too.

736
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 7: Yes, he's done quite well.

737
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 6: But Jordan is like this calm Field Marshall presence, and

738
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 6: this is a really other than Akello Witherspoon, Like this

739
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 6: is a pretty young defense. All around, You've got Aaron Donald,

740
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 6: Ernest Jones, but in that back half, Jordan Fuller has

741
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 6: really been kind of the analytical calm and like physical

742
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 6: forced settling everything down when things get chaotic, and communication,

743
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 6: especially between himself and Ernest Jones, who wears the green

744
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 6: dot for the Rams defense. And so this could be

745
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 6: potentially significant on a personal level.

746
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 7: You feel for Jordan.

747
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 6: He missed the Super Bowl run because of an ankle injury.

748
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 6: He came into Sunday's game with the ankle bothering him

749
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 6: and so now you hate to see a reinjury and

750
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 6: then so obviously his status will wait and see over

751
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 6: the next couple of days. But that is quietly a

752
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 6: very significant loss for the Rams and their defensive backfield.

753
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 7: If he can't go, you know, let's.

754
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: Stay on that side of the ball. Obviously, Aaron Donald

755
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: is a Hall of Fame player, has been kind of

756
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: that key guy for years and years and years. But

757
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: you look at some of the other guys that they

758
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: have now, some young guys, Kobe Turner. I think you

759
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: have six guys with at least six sacks.

760
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: On the year.

761
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: Just what kind of impact have those other guys had,

762
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: and especially Kobe when you look at his nine sacks

763
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: and the seventeen between those two guys on the interior,

764
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 3: that's a lot of production from the interior of your

765
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: defensive line. You talk to any quarterback, they'll tell you

766
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: the worst rush they can possibly get is that rush

767
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: right up the center in their face. Just adding a

768
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: guy like that and him having some other guys that

769
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: have contributed, how much has that made this you know,

770
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: a better front seven for the Rams, well better.

771
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 6: Than people expected coming into the year. Absolutely, because I

772
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 6: think this team was written off as dead on arrival

773
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 6: before it arrived, right, So it was you know, Kobe

774
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 6: Turner is the rookie sack leader right now, he's the

775
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 6: defensive Rookie of the Year candidate. Byron Young, his teammate

776
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 6: on the edge, is also a rookie who is also

777
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 6: second in rookie sack production. So the RAMS are starting,

778
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 6: this is starting to come together a little bit. Where

779
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: they still have some concern is that complimentary rush. It's

780
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 6: the initial push is quite very much there between Aaron

781
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 6: Donald and Kobe Turner, and then Bobby Brown contributing at

782
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 6: nose tackle when he can. Jodah Williams a quiet contributor

783
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 6: as well. But the containment in the perimeter, the second

784
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 6: part of the rush, the transition rush that Aaron Donald

785
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 6: likes to call it. That's been an area of concern

786
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 6: in all week where some of the concerns we just

787
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 6: talked about in the secondary come up as well, because

788
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 6: you're having to cover for a long time if your

789
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 6: transition rush is taking a minute to get there. So

790
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 6: this is where the Rams have worked really hard between

791
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 6: Eric Henderson, the d line coach and Joe Conniglio, the

792
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 6: first year outside linebacker's coach, to shore this up to

793
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 6: make sure that it's a one to two punch, not

794
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 6: just in an initial punch and hopefully a sack and

795
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 6: a takedown from that interior. Kobe Turner has really impressed me,

796
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 6: not just because of what he's been able to do

797
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 6: production wise, but the way that he can run games

798
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 6: with Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald loves to run games. He's

799
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 6: like the guy who's helping to plan their rush and

800
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 6: their pass rush plan every single week. But Kobe Turner

801
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 6: has taken on that challenge and that classroom challenge with

802
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 6: Aaron Donald and really become a guy who is like

803
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 6: his go to communicator with in terms of setting up

804
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 6: the rush the way that it needs to go. And

805
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 6: he's still learning, he's a rookie, but he's doing it

806
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 6: with such a tenacity and a surprise amount of speed

807
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 6: for his size that I think makes him really effective

808
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 6: alongside Aaron Donald.

809
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 3: And again i'm talking with Jordan Rudriechs does great job

810
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: covering the rams for the Athletic and also hosts the

811
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 3: eleven Personnel podcast. That's going to be a great matchup

812
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: up front because Detroit Scott, you know, probably one of

813
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: the top three offensive lines they've they've been terrific keeping

814
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: Jared Goff clean all year long, and so you know,

815
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: obviously you look at the production on the other side,

816
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: I think that's going to be really a key matchup

817
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: in this one.

818
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 4: Also key for Detroit.

819
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 3: Is going to be in defensive cord to Eric Glenn

820
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: is going to be trying to figure out a formula

821
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: to slow down Pooka Nakua and Cooper Cup Jordan. What

822
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: makes those two so lethal together as a duo.

823
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Jared Goff will know it all too well

824
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 6: because when he's watching from the opposite sideline when the

825
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 6: Rams offense is on the field, because it's Robert Woods

826
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 6: and Cooper Cup and it's vintage throwback.

827
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 7: Concepts that they would run Robert Woods.

828
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 6: In and now it's Pooka Nakua again wearing number seven.

829
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 6: So it freaks us all out, you know, to see

830
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 6: number seventeen running around, you know, getting involved in the

831
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 6: run game willingly and so effectively that Pooka has been

832
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 6: that Cooper's always done throughout his entire career. Is it

833
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 6: is a deadly attack between the two because you've really

834
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 6: got two number one receivers out there, and Matthew Stafford

835
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 6: has a comfort and a rapport with both of them.

836
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 6: We've already known, we've seen what he can do with

837
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 6: Cooper Cup, but he's doing it as well with Puka

838
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 6: Nakua as well, So he's got the two ones out there.

839
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 6: The thing that's so deadly about the attack is they're

840
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 6: so interchangeable. They're running everything out of pre snap eleven

841
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 6: personnel looks hence the name of the podcast, but everything

842
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 6: is everything looks different post snap. They can run thirteen,

843
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 6: they can run twelve because their receivers are acting as

844
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 6: miniature tight ends as well on the blocking surface. Any

845
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 6: run concept can also come out of eleven personnel pre

846
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 6: snap looks, and that's part of what makes them effective.

847
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 6: We joke about it. We call it what they what

848
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 6: they runs. Their base is eleven and a half personnel

849
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 6: because it's kind of in between eleven and twelve because

850
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 6: of what these two receivers can do. And what I

851
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 6: think people really expected from Puka when he first came

852
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 6: out was you know, Okay, he's going to be the

853
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 6: yards after catch guy, which he is, and he's going

854
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 6: to be some of the he's going to be the

855
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 6: dig guy, right that Robert Woods always was, but he's

856
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 6: also got the verticality. They're also running him on sweeps

857
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 6: as well, so he poses a threat in every phase

858
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 6: of the route tree as well as in the run

859
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 6: game in a variety of ways that are just limited

860
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 6: to how he can block and what he activates in

861
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 6: the surface.

862
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot similar to aman Ross Saint Brown here,

863
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: and you look at their numbers and the way they play,

864
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: how they can play all over really used in the.

865
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: Same way too.

866
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: But Kyram Williams has been huge for that team too,

867
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: and that ability to run the football off of that,

868
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: you know all the different personnel groupings and all, you

869
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: know everything that they do, the eye candy and you

870
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: know the pre snap stuff. But to have a running

871
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: back that can then be productive too, it's really.

872
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: A triple threat. We see it in Detroit.

873
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: When I look at these two offenses, I just it's

874
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: almost like I'm watching the same time productive of wide

875
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: receivers and quarterbacks that are playing really well. It's the

876
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: same team.

877
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

878
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 6: It's so funny that when I watched some of the

879
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 6: Rams run game opening the year, I was like, that's

880
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 6: a little Ben Johnson's in there. I think, you know,

881
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 6: some of the some of the duo stuff. They the

882
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 6: Rams have switched from a inside and mid excuse me,

883
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 6: a wide and mid zone team to like a lot

884
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 6: of inside zone. They still run that mid and wide

885
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 6: zone that Sean McVay sort of buttered his bread with

886
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 6: when he first came into the league in seventeen, but

887
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 6: now they're a gap team. They're they're running duo is

888
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 6: their run of choice, right, and that's so meets the

889
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 6: league where it's at, which the Lions did last year

890
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 6: and know very well meets the league in the moment

891
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 6: that it's in and the best I think DOO is

892
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 6: the best run you can you can run. Our guide

893
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 6: Nate Tyson for The Athletic was the first to kind

894
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 6: of tagline that, and I agree with them it is.

895
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 6: Karen Williams is also a perfect match for it because

896
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 6: he understands how to set up linebackers. He understands where

897
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 6: the blocks are coming from, and he understands the space

898
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 6: that they will open. He understands the second the second

899
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 6: action within that space as well. And when you talk

900
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 6: to him, I mean Kyen. The Rams are quite literally

901
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 6: a different team when Kyen Williams is on the field

902
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 6: versus when he's not on the field. He and Matthew

903
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 6: Stafford and Pukinakua and Cooper Cup are like the quadrangle,

904
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 6: right that makes this team go and it is. It

905
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 6: is so interesting because when Kiren's on the team on

906
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 6: the field, and he missed four games to injury this year,

907
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 6: but when he's on the field, you can really feel

908
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 6: the depth the physicality. The Rams I think used to have.

909
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 6: This they veered towards a finesse reputation I think through

910
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one because of what they were the amazing

911
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 6: stuff they were able to do in the drop back

912
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 6: passing game right. And I say finesse not as a

913
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 6: bad thing. It's just they were such a pass heavy

914
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 6: attack in their run game deterior a little bit. Well,

915
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 6: now it's back and it's got some teeth to it,

916
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 6: and it's got the physicality that has long been absent

917
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 6: from this team that everybody feels from a bulked up

918
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 6: offensive line that the Rams did a great job addressing

919
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 6: this year to how they can run their play actions

920
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 6: off of it and a healthier blend of play action

921
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 6: pass game alongside the dropback stuff that Matthew Stafford can execute,

922
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 6: you know, with such a killer mentality, and that's what

923
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 6: makes this team fascinating. It's not just one thing or another,

924
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 6: it's everything together meshing at once, which again nobody expected

925
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 6: from this group coming into the season.

926
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's meshed over the last two months. I

927
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: mean you look at the way that they finished seven

928
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: and one with their only loss in overtime at Baltimore.

929
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 3: They're playing really good football right now. Last one for you, Jordan,

930
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: from LA's perspective, maybe what's one or two really key

931
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: matchups for you?

932
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: In this one?

933
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: You know that the Rams have to win if they're

934
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: going to come out of Detroit with a victory.

935
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 6: Well, I know they've had their eye on the Sam

936
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 6: Laporta situation because they've struggled to cover tight ends all year.

937
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 6: Even in really impressive production games from their defense, they

938
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 6: have struggled to cover that particular element.

939
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 7: And then if I'm on Ross, Saint.

940
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 6: Brown is also in that versatile you know plan that

941
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 6: he usually is in. That's going to be something to

942
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 6: watch as well. And I watch this offensive line, in

943
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 6: this defensive line, I mean, this is a really young,

944
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 6: really inexperienced defensive line, but they are so well coached.

945
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 6: They are really smartly schemed, and they have Aaron Donald,

946
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 6: which that's not terrible, right, but this Lion's offensive line.

947
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 6: I cannot be more impressed with how they have built

948
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 6: this team and this roster. And you know, I covered

949
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 6: Brad Holmes and a lot of those guys, Ray Agnew

950
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 6: and a lot of those guys who are over there now.

951
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 6: And you always believe, you always knew if they get

952
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 6: a chance, they're going to build this thing the right way,

953
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 6: and they did, and you can't be more impressed with

954
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 6: the product that has come from that. And so I watch,

955
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 6: I mean, this is going to be a clash of

956
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 6: really really smartly schemed, really physical, really energetic and up

957
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 6: and coming even in some ways on the Rams side

958
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 6: players just within that little box, right just within the box,

959
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 6: you're going to watch like this epic clash, this epic matchup.

960
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 6: You're going to watch people problem solving each other and

961
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 6: growing in real time.

962
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 7: And I think that's going to be the most fun thing.

963
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: Oh that's where playoff games are usually one and loss

964
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: in that box and up front and that's a great matchup. Jordan,

965
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining me, great insight, great stuff. Again,

966
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: you can get all her stuff on the Athletic and

967
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: you can listen to her eleven Personnel podcast. Jordan, Safe travels.

968
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: It's going to be a crazy environment. Get to the

969
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: stadium early, soak it all in because it's something we

970
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: haven't seen in a while, and it will be fun.

971
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 6: I'm so excited. Thank you for having me. I'm so

972
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 6: happy for Detroit fans as well. This is going to

973
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 6: be so much fun just to experience. Thank you for

974
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 6: having me on. And then I'll see you this weekend.

975
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: All right, Safe travels. Jordan, Welcome back to the twenty

976
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: in the Huddle podcast, and now I welcome in Taylor Decker,

977
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 3: a long time left tackle for joit Lines, one of

978
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: the most veteran players on this roster. And Taylor, you

979
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: were drafted in twenty sixteen and you.

980
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 4: Went to the playoffs as a rookie.

981
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: At that point, did you think, well, this NFL thing

982
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 3: is kind of easy. I'm going to be in the

983
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: playoffs all the time now. I mean your first year

984
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: you get exposed to it, and then there's obviously been

985
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: the drought.

986
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 8: I would never say that the NFL thing is easy,

987
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 8: but yeah, I mean we had success in my rookie year.

988
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 8: And it was almost like, you know, this should be

989
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 8: the floor for the expectation, you know, moving forward, because

990
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 8: that was my only experience. I didn't know any better.

991
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 8: And now, like looking back on that, I have an

992
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 8: appreciation for what it takes to be able to get

993
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 8: an opportunity to play in the playoffs.

994
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: And just have you let yourself envision it all what

995
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: that is going to be like running out of the

996
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: tunnel Sunday night, all eyes of the NFL on you,

997
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: it's at home. It was a little different in twenty

998
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 3: sixteen when you're going on the road and just what

999
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: this city has been so starved and you guys could

1000
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: set some decibel records in there. I mean, it's it's

1001
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: going to be pretty ridiculous. Have you let yourself think

1002
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: about it at all or has it just been business

1003
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: as usual or tried to be that way?

1004
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, a little bit for sure, because like this is

1005
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 8: what we've been working for, Like up until this point.

1006
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 8: Of course, we have goals.

1007
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: You know that are.

1008
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 8: Bigger than you know, the first game of the playoffs

1009
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 8: and things that we want to keep doing after that,

1010
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 8: but you know, this is the opportunity that we've been

1011
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 8: working for in the postseason to be able to have

1012
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 8: a home playoff game. Just feel really fortunate for it

1013
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 8: and fortunate for the staff members, coaches, teammates who have

1014
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 8: all made it possible because it's been a long time

1015
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 8: and you know, and I know, like you said that,

1016
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 8: the city's almost starving for it, and I feel like

1017
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 8: we even got a taste of it last week with

1018
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 8: the atmosphere at the game, and the atmosphere has been

1019
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 8: incredible every single week in a home field advent and

1020
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 8: that's a real thing. Yeah, So I'm excited. I know

1021
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 8: they're going to tailgate early, and I know when I

1022
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 8: saw that we were playing the Rams, I'm like, it's

1023
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 8: going to be the night game.

1024
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: You know.

1025
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: I has to Lee McNeil this too, because he deals

1026
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: with the loud of the crowd noise obviously you know

1027
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 3: on the field, but when you guys are on the road,

1028
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: you've had to deal with it too. Just how much

1029
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: of a disadvantage is that when when it's crazy loud

1030
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: in there and you're on the silent count, does that

1031
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 3: defense have that extra advantage of maybe a.

1032
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 4: Step or two or a half step.

1033
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 3: Just how real of an advantage is that for the

1034
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 3: defense and how much are the rams going to have

1035
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: to work through, you know, some of those difficulties being

1036
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 3: on the road in that kind of environment.

1037
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 8: I mean, it's huge and it can't be understated because

1038
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 8: there's so much communication, especially when we're on the road. Offensively,

1039
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 8: we like to do a lot of different things, motion shifts,

1040
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 8: things like that. Yeah, and there's a lot of communication

1041
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 8: that has to take place. So if it can't be verbally,

1042
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 8: it's got to be nonverbally. And sometimes you only have

1043
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 8: verbal communication for certain things, so trying to get all

1044
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 8: on the right page is tough. And then on top

1045
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 8: of that, just having to go off the center head

1046
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 8: bob for a cadence. As an offensive lineman, I think

1047
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 8: your biggest weapon is knowing the snap count and you

1048
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 8: have that advantage to be able to get off the

1049
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 8: snap before the defender. You don't have as much of

1050
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 8: that when you're playing on the road because they can

1051
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 8: get a beat on the center's head bob and things

1052
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 8: like that. So we need the fans to do their part.

1053
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: It sounds like they will and everybody is excited for it.

1054
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: You guys have been the strength of this football team

1055
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: all season long. How much do you take this game personal.

1056
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: How much is that mindset of we've got to handle

1057
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: our business. We have to be the strength that we've

1058
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 3: been all year long if.

1059
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 4: We're going to win this football game.

1060
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think we know that we have

1061
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 8: to play well, and that's kind of been the story

1062
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 8: a year. But we know there's gonna be another level

1063
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 8: of intensity going into the playoffs. And you see it

1064
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 8: all the time, their statistics on team that can, teams

1065
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 8: that can run the ball and stop the run, and

1066
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 8: how productive they are in the postseason. So we know

1067
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 8: we're gonna have to be able to do that because

1068
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 8: that's going to open up our play action pass, that's

1069
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 8: gonna make our third downs more manageable, and that's going

1070
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 8: to keep our defense fresh and keep the ball out

1071
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 8: of their offensive hands.

1072
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, Ben talked on Thursday about this being

1073
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 3: made potentially the best defensive tackle duo and Kobe Turner

1074
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: and Aaron Donald.

1075
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 4: What do you see from the guys on the edge?

1076
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: What do you and Penne have to deal with.

1077
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: I think they've got, you know, four guys with at

1078
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: least six or six acts on the season, So those

1079
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 3: edge guys, you know, can can get to the quarterback

1080
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 3: to what jumps out about those guys just didn't talk

1081
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: about the matchup a little bit that that you'll face

1082
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: Sunday night.

1083
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean they definitely they have length on the edge,

1084
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 8: and that's that's one thing where if you're at tackle,

1085
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 8: you need to be able to get your hands on

1086
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 8: the guy. But if if they're playing with length, that

1087
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 8: can be a more difficult thing to do. And they're

1088
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 8: definitely a lot younger group than they were a couple

1089
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 8: of years ago. But I even talk about that with

1090
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 8: us like that can almost be a good thing sometimes

1091
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 8: because you just got young guys just flying around out

1092
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 8: there playing hard, and it's almost like, you know, they

1093
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 8: don't know any better.

1094
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go go crazy.

1095
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, So, especially when you have to know where ninety

1096
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 8: nine is at all times and and try to get

1097
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 8: helped him when you can. That's gonna put the tackles

1098
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 8: on an island more so me and pay know. That's

1099
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 8: that's probably going to be the game, Like you're gonna

1100
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 8: be one on one And that's why we're here.

1101
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 3: Though, exactly, that's why you guys are here. You love

1102
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 3: that kind of thing, right, You love that kind of

1103
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: master You go in a game, knowing that it's us

1104
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: against them, that it's one on one, and you a

1105
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 3: penny have been so good in those situations all year long.

1106
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: Just how much do you do you like what you

1107
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 3: see out.

1108
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 4: Of that out of that young guy.

1109
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 3: I know you've been a mentor to him since he's

1110
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: been here, just the way he's been able to play

1111
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: and to turn you two into one of the best

1112
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 3: tackle duels in football. How much did do you appreciate

1113
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 3: how he's kind of just put his head down and

1114
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: gone to work and become the player that he's become.

1115
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: No, I mean he's incredible.

1116
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 8: I mean I think everybody knows it, Like just watching

1117
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 8: the guy play like he can do some incredible things.

1118
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 8: And on top of that, just the way he carries

1119
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 8: himself with the success that he's having. Man, he's he's

1120
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 8: a humble guy, and it's it's really cool to see

1121
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 8: because it's like that that is like exactly how you

1122
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 8: would want him to carry himself and go about his

1123
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 8: business and be professional. I mean, he's a weapon for us,

1124
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 8: and and it's it's fun getting to watch him play,

1125
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 8: and it's fun getting to be a team a teammate

1126
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 8: of his along with all the other guys, like it's

1127
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 8: it's fun to watch your friends go to work and

1128
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 8: succeed and do well.

1129
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, how fun has it been

1130
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: just to have the five guys now healthy for an

1131
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: extended period of time and and now go into the

1132
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: playoffs with your best five, with your guys playing the

1133
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: way you guys have been playing. It's got to be

1134
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: a great feeling knowing that you got your guys at

1135
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: crunch time, win or go home, the best are on

1136
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 3: the field. And how much have you enjoyed, you know,

1137
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: kind of building to this point with those guys.

1138
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think you kind of hit it.

1139
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 8: We've we've been building to this point, and we've wanted

1140
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 8: this opportunity and we've had to put the work in

1141
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 8: to get to this point. But just to like I said,

1142
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 8: to see your friends and the guys that you care

1143
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 8: about getting to go out there with you and go

1144
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 8: to battle with you like that bond is special, and

1145
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 8: just to get to see them succeed, it's exciting. It's

1146
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 8: exciting to get to go out there and play. And

1147
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 8: you know, one of the biggest games in recent history

1148
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 8: of the franchise, probably the biggest game of my career

1149
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 8: so far. To get to go out there to do

1150
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 8: it with that special groups, It's just gonna be fun.

1151
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 8: And I'm just excited for them. I'm excited for them

1152
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 8: to have the opportunity and I'm excited to get to

1153
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 8: be a part of it out there with them.

1154
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 3: Special That's fitting because you guys have been a special

1155
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: unit all year. It's going to be a special night

1156
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: on Sunday night. I know you're looking forward to it.

1157
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. I think all of Detroit

1158
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 3: is looking forward to it. It's a great time Division

1159
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 3: champs home playoff game. It's gonna be a crazy atmosphere.

1160
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: Good luck to you bringing home. So we're sitting here

1161
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 3: next week talking about hopefully another one, but at least

1162
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: the division round.

1163
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: That's right, appreciate it all right.

1164
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast, and

1165
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: I am very happy to welcome in Ali McNeil, defensive

1166
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: tackle for the Detroit Lions.

1167
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: Third year Alien.

1168
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: Thank you for joining me first off, and good to see.

1169
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 4: You back on the field.

1170
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: How important was that for you to get some playing time,

1171
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: to get some reps.

1172
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 4: You'd miss the four games prior.

1173
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: With a knee injury, but just to get back on

1174
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: the field and work through some things, test out the kneebrace.

1175
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 3: How important was that heading into the playoffs.

1176
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1177
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, first of all, thanks for having me back. But

1178
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 9: that was that was that was huge. I wouldn't I

1179
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 9: didn't want to put it as it like I'm just

1180
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 9: trying to get some reps in like type of game,

1181
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 9: like was you know, I was playing that game.

1182
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: I didn't want to just be like, ah, I'm.

1183
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 9: Getting to this number of snaps or whatever and I'm done,

1184
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 9: Like I was active plan. I was ready to go

1185
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 9: to the whole time. But that was really good. It

1186
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 9: was huge for me, like confidence wise, that's all. It is,

1187
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 9: just like confidence booters because I know, I know I'm

1188
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 9: good or whatever. It's just I haven't been able to

1189
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 9: do it, you know, playing a game and to be

1190
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 9: able to play in that game. And I moved the

1191
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 9: way I moved and I felt really good, So it

1192
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 9: was huge. It was huge. I know I felt good

1193
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 9: before that, but obviously I hadn't played a game since then,

1194
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 9: and it was it was huge.

1195
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 2: It was good.

1196
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: You never missed a game with injury, so playing with

1197
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: the brace no limitations there.

1198
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 4: I know, it was a custom made deal for you.

1199
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 4: It felt good nothing, Oh yeah, no, No, I.

1200
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 9: Just felt like I'm ready to live. Honestly, From time

1201
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 9: to time I have to like restrap it back up

1202
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 9: or whatever, ready to get loose. But other than that, no,

1203
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 9: no limitations at all.

1204
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: Have you let yourself think about what that atmosphere is

1205
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 3: going to be like? I mean, you're around town, you know,

1206
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: you get the feeling from the fans and how hungry

1207
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 3: they've been, how much they've showed up on the road

1208
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: for you guys. I mean I can't what was like

1209
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: an Arrowhead and some of these other places, and I

1210
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: just I can't even Matine. I had Dan Miller on,

1211
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: you know, earlier and we talked about it, and there's

1212
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 3: an anticipation about what that environment is going to be like.

1213
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: And that's got to be the same for you as

1214
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 3: a player.

1215
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 9: Right, what about this at the New Standards, We're about

1216
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 9: to have the news that everybody's forfills the lat of

1217
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 9: stadium and everybody's about to say that now like that

1218
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 9: what's about to happen, and that's what we want to

1219
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 9: continue to happen. But as far as thinking about like

1220
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 9: how it is we going to be. I mean, I'd

1221
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 9: be lying to you if I say that hasn't been

1222
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 9: my only thought this whole week. I've been thinking about

1223
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 9: this game this entire time. So yeah, when I that's

1224
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 9: all I've been thinking about. And I know it's some belectric.

1225
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 9: I know this going be crazy, you know, getting to

1226
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 9: the NFL and play first NFL game as for sure

1227
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 9: the dream, you know, But this right here, like playoffs

1228
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 9: like this, this is what I dreamed about, Like this

1229
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 9: is what these other moments that I dreamed about. And yeah, yeah, yeah,

1230
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 9: it's gonna be crazy. And that's the only thing I

1231
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 9: can think of. I try to get my mind off it,

1232
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 9: but there's just no other way.

1233
00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 6: It.

1234
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 3: Is it worse playing a night game sometimes so that

1235
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: you've got to you've got it all day suner or

1236
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: do you like that fact or me?

1237
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: Personally?

1238
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 9: I like it because it gives me all day to

1239
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 9: rest up and get right and get the right fuel

1240
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 9: and food, and I can watch a little TV and

1241
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 9: I can just relax and get right before the game.

1242
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: I like the like night games a lot.

1243
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 9: I feel like every time we play in that game,

1244
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 9: we come out firing too, So I like it a lot.

1245
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 9: But as far as the waiting game, that part does suck.

1246
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 9: You gotta wait all day, but it does give you

1247
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 9: a chance to get right before the game starts, to

1248
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 9: get your fueling, you and everything good.

1249
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: Rest. So I like it and I don't like it.

1250
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the opponent a little bit. You're not

1251
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 3: a bad offensive line unit. We look at the overall

1252
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 3: totals in terms of you know, had a thousand yard

1253
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: running back, you know, top six in the league in

1254
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 3: sacks allowed. What maybe jumps out to you about the unit?

1255
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 3: The interior guys there, and what are the challenges.

1256
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 9: They do have one younger guy in there. But we

1257
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 9: were speaking earlier and the interior line or the line

1258
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 9: is as a whole, it's not a bad line at all.

1259
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: It's very solid line that we're going against.

1260
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 9: But there are opportunities there for us to be able

1261
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 9: to capitalize. But I do think this is a very

1262
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 9: solid group. They're in the playoffs for one. It's a

1263
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 9: very solid group, and they play together. They communicate, and

1264
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 9: their center is the big deal for that. He communicates everything,

1265
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 9: he does everything. He's actually very very very smart. He's

1266
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 9: a super smart center. So there's a very solid group

1267
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 9: we're going againt, So we're gonna have our work cut

1268
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 9: out for us, but they're definitely gonna be opportunity used

1269
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 9: to capitalize.

1270
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,959
Speaker 3: You know, we were chatting about this too, We're talking

1271
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 3: about Ford Field and talking about.

1272
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 4: The noise in the environment.

1273
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: Just how much of an advantage is that for you,

1274
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 3: you guys on defense and especially you guys up front,

1275
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: when teams are on a silent counting, maybe things are

1276
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 3: maybe just happening to touch flowers, there's some miscommunication.

1277
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 4: Is that a real thing? Is that advantage palpable in

1278
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 4: the NFL?

1279
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 9: Yes, If they can't hear what's going on, they can't

1280
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 9: hit their own calls, they can't run the play, and

1281
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 9: you know, they have a lot of things that they

1282
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 9: like to do within their plays. They might go under

1283
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 9: center and then come back and get in the gun,

1284
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 9: they'll switch up everything. If they can't hear that and

1285
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 9: hear what's going on, they're not getting as shingles from

1286
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 9: each other and messes.

1287
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: Up a lot of stuff.

1288
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 9: And like I think Alex actually said it the other day,

1289
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 9: when the crowd to get loud when they're in the Yeah, yeah,

1290
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 9: that's what we're pulling.

1291
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: That up today.

1292
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 9: We need a multi period, but when they're in the huddle,

1293
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 9: for sure, they can't hear to call it a play,

1294
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 9: you know. But that's a huge advantage because sometimes you

1295
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 9: get stuff like fall star stuff. Maybe they thought they

1296
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 9: were going to get it on this second for a

1297
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 9: snap and they did and he jumps fast or whatever,

1298
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 9: stuff like that, you know, and it adds up.

1299
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: It adds up throughout the game. It gets annoying and

1300
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: it gets frustrating. So yeah, yeah, it's a huge advantage.

1301
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson has been so terrific on the edge this year,

1302
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 3: one hundred and one total pressures. I think it's, you know,

1303
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: second only to Micah Parsons in terms of totals for

1304
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: the league.

1305
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 4: How much of advantage is it for you as an.

1306
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: Interior guy to have a guy like that that is

1307
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 3: so productive on the edge, that gets so much pressure.

1308
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 3: How do you guys into each other?

1309
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: So I even have to.

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00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 9: Explain it takes the triples, the doubles, the quadruple teams

1311
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 9: that and I get the one on one back on

1312
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 9: the other side of ever. But the only thing is

1313
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 9: when I'm rushing with Hudge, we'll get the slideer whatever.

1314
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 9: But having someone like hutch On at that end, being

1315
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 9: able to wrest like that and still being able to

1316
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 9: capitalize the way he does, it does allow everybody else

1317
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 9: to eat up as well, because you know, he takes

1318
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 9: the attention and you know rightfully, Joe, because I don't

1319
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 9: have to explain everybody's been watching what's going on. But

1320
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 9: having a guy like that, it does allow for a

1321
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 9: lot of different opportunities to open up, specifically one on

1322
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 9: ones and stuff like that.

1323
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: But it's huge, that's huge.

1324
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 3: How proud are you of the season that you've had

1325
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: to And I know this isn't a time of reflection,

1326
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 3: there's still work to be done, but you had a

1327
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 3: career high in sacks despite missing four games, you know,

1328
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: a career high in a quarterback, pressure's career high and

1329
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 3: tackle for losses.

1330
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 4: We had you on on the.

1331
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: Podcast in the offseason when you lost some of the

1332
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: weight and did what you did and you said, I

1333
00:57:59,160 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: want to play behind this.

1334
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 4: It was the fact that you were able to do

1335
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 4: that with still.

1336
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 3: More to come, obviously, But how happy are you with

1337
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: that transition you made it and that jump that you

1338
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: made this year?

1339
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 9: You know, I'm not satisfied with, you know, with everything,

1340
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 9: just yet or whatever. But I'm very happy that I'm

1341
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 9: ever able to you know, contribute and help make more

1342
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 9: plays for the team to you know, help win games

1343
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 9: stuff like that. I just didn't want to keep sitting

1344
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 9: back and just because I feel like there was a

1345
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 9: lot more that I could do just to help the team,

1346
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 9: just to help the team, and I'd be able to

1347
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 9: do a lot of more stuff like that. I'm creating

1348
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 9: more opportunities to be in different packages and stuff like

1349
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 9: that to you know, be able to help the team,

1350
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 9: help the defense get off the field, stuff like that.

1351
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 9: But I'm really happy that I've been able to do

1352
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 9: some of the things I've been doing because it is

1353
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 9: helping us as a unit, as a defense and as

1354
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 9: a team, and then just for me personally, you know,

1355
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 9: I feel like I'm playing football again.

1356
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm back to being what I

1357
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: used to do.

1358
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 3: So Aaron Glenn talked Thursday about tackling. Tackling that's been

1359
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: a big emphasis this week. Important is that with this

1360
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: running back, with some of these receivers and just some

1361
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: of the weapons that they have, you guys got to

1362
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 3: be really sound in that regard, don't you.

1363
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, just like any other game tackling hues,

1364
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 9: but specifically this one. Talking specifical about this one. They

1365
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 9: do have receivers that break a lot of tackles. You know,

1366
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 9: they're running back, like we said, had a thousand over

1367
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 9: a thousand yards. You know, you don't just get that

1368
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 9: by just running straight free. He's definitely breaking a lot

1369
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 9: of tackles. Seventeen breaks a lot of tackles a lot too.

1370
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 9: So you got to get population to the ball, just

1371
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 9: like you know you preach every week, but it's got

1372
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 9: to be a point of emphasis for sure. This week

1373
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 9: one number one is the playoffs, and they break a

1374
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 9: lot of tackles. That's how they make a lot of

1375
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 9: their Hey, So yeah, we just got to get population

1376
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 9: to the ball.

1377
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: How much do you guys go into this game thinking

1378
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: this game is won or lost by us up front?

1379
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: A lot? A lot? Every game is one lost in

1380
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: the trenches.

1381
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 9: You know, if we're getting blown off the ball, getting

1382
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 9: beat up, we're not helping anything.

1383
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: You know.

1384
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 9: If we're off getting blown off the ball, linebackers can't

1385
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 9: do what they need to do. Then that makes it

1386
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 9: harder on the DV. So it starts everything starts to

1387
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 9: So yeah, this game is lost, won or lost in

1388
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 9: this in the Chunteres.

1389
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 3: Well, it should be a fun one, yeah, obviously, tons

1390
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 3: of storylines, tons of matchups. Forefield is going to be

1391
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 3: rocking playoff football with a division championship.

1392
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 4: It sounds pretty great, doesn't it.

1393
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: It does. Don't get no better than that.

1394
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me, man, I appreciate Good luck Sunday night.

1395
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: I appreciate that