1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the second hour of the Clay 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. You know, Clay, Sometimes it's 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: funny because I have in my head a story that 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna end up talking about, and then 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: it changes rapidly because of events. And one of those 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: unfolded in the last twenty four hours where there was 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: a report out there, because you could say, an allegation 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: that a Hilton branded hotel was canceling the reservations of 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: anybody who works for Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, just like 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: everyday folks, government employees when they travel to places, they 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: don't have homes everywhere, they stay in hotels. And there 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: was this report out about a Hilton hotel that had 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: turned and not just refuse to take it as it 14 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: but canceled active reservations of a of some ICE contingent. 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: And it came from I believe officially or initially the 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: official DHS account saying this is that this happened. So 17 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: they go right to the people with this stuff. Now, 18 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this Trump administration doesn't hold back. It was 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: amazing to see how quickly, to Hilton's credit, Now I 20 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: think they understand what's at stake here. But Hilton Hotels, man, 21 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: they were at the comms, they were on it. They 22 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: right away publicly, this is absolutely not our policy. We 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: would never do such a thing. We are open as 24 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: a hotel for all who wish to stay. And you know, 25 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: they they went and they said we are looking into 26 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: this right away. And then they said the it's a franchisee. 27 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: People forget this that there's often you know, these big brands, 28 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: you have to play by certain rules. You're a franchise ees. 29 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: You independently operate it under the overall corporate umbrella, so 30 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: there's kind of limited there's not really direct oversight. There's 31 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: some oversight, but it was a franchise e hotel and Hilton. 32 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: Do you see. 33 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: The latest out of Clay was that Hilton Hotels came 34 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: out I think it was either last night or early 35 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: this morning to just say, you know. 36 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: What, this franchise e told us. 37 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: They fix it. They didn't fix it. They're no longer 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: a Hilton Hotel. This was in less than twenty four hours. 39 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: I just think that this is indicative of how much 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: the vibe, as the kids say, has changed now in 41 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: corporate America, where the second that anyone starts to get 42 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: a WHI that you think that half the country should 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: go stuff it and that they're you know, you don't 44 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: want their business is if they're going to vote for 45 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: Trump or whatever. Oh the days of half the country 46 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: sitting back quietly and letting that stuff lie are are 47 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: long since gone. 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: Well, I think this is the legacy of bud Light, 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: which is why I think the bud Light story is 50 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: going to. 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: Linger for years in years to come. 52 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 3: Look, Michael Jordan had it right buck Republicans by Sneakers too. 53 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: Back in the day, they tried to get Michael Jordan 54 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: to be super political and he said, no, I'm not 55 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,279 Speaker 3: going to do that, And he gave the quote Republicans 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: by sneakers too. That means that maybe he had democratic leanings, 57 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: but he wasn't going to get involved. And as a result, 58 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: you know what the legacy of Michael Jordan is, He's 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: the most popular athlete in the entire country. Still, he 60 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: sells more Jordans his sneakers than any current NBA player 61 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: does combined. The air Jordan brand is more valuable than 62 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: every current NBA player combined. Tiger Woods took the same approach. 63 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: Tiger Woods basically said, look, I want to be the 64 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: greatest golfer that has ever lived. Now, he didn't beat 65 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: Jack Nicholas in overall majors. I think he just turned fifty. 66 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Tiger Woods. You're listening. And Tiger made the 67 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: decision that he wanted to have the same level of appeal. 68 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: And I just it seems very basic to me. If 69 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: I ran a company that was desirous of of of 70 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: trying to appeal to everyone, which most companies are, why 71 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: would you alienate half the country. It never made any 72 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: sense to me. It always seemed like a really short 73 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: sighted plan. 74 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: I just thought it was so interesting because and I 75 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: pulled this up, it was from the official Homeland Security 76 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: account initially, and so Homeland Security account called this out, 77 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: like the comms for DHS said, we're getting reports about this, 78 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: and they called it no room at. 79 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: The end, all in caps and Hilton. 80 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: You know, there there was a time there was a 81 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: time when I think, at best what you could hope 82 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: for would have been the overall. 83 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: Now, Hilton is. 84 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 1: A true global brand, and you know it's been around 85 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: a long time and so people know it. There was 86 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: a time when I think the best you could have 87 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: hoped for would have been we have, you know, read 88 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: this report and we're going to look into it, and 89 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: they would sort of just hope that it goes away 90 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: and that's it. Maybe they would have even gone in 91 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: the other direction and said, you know, well, we believe 92 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: that like you know, in borders, or that borders shouldn't 93 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: exist and all people are people and known is illegal. 94 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: There was a time when some corporations in recent memory 95 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: would have done that. I think major corporations, I think 96 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: like Disney might have done that depending on the day. 97 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: But in this case, Hilton came out with right away, 98 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: like all that they could bring to the public conversation 99 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: about this to squelch this story and set it straight 100 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: and say we absolutely do not do this, would not 101 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: do this, and we will hold those who do it 102 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: under our banner accountable. That is, you know, we've started 103 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: to get a little used to this, guys. It's only 104 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: been a year. That is a massive, massive corporate sea change. 105 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: In add a behavior from a big brand like that, 106 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: when clearly this is because it's Trump's ice, Trump's policies, 107 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. Under the Biden administration, you know, 108 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: people even still thought they could get away with all 109 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: kinds of nonsense like this. 110 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: I think it's also reflective of an unfortunate reality, which 111 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: is most business leaders are cowards, and they go whatever 112 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 3: the direction. 113 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 2: Is that the wind is blowing. 114 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: And for a long time, the way that they would 115 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: lose their jobs was by not seeming left wing enough. 116 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 3: So if you remember in twenty twenty in the summer, 117 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: remember when every brand that you ever bought anything from 118 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: suddenly had to email you to let you know what 119 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 3: they thought about Black Lives Matter, And you were sitting 120 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: around and you were just like, Hey, I just want 121 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: to buy some kitty litter. I don't need to know 122 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: what my pet company, pet food company thinks about geopolitics. 123 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: And yet everybody felt compelled to send you those message. 124 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: A lot of those same CEOs knew it was BS 125 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: and then, but they were concerned about protecting their own jobs. Now, 126 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: because Trump won, they can go back and try to 127 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: address what they knew to be ridiculous for a long time. 128 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: And I think the math on it was is pretty clear, right. 129 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're Hilton or Hyatt, I always get 130 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: those two mixed up. 131 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: I don't know which. 132 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: I can't tell the difference probably not helping me for 133 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: us getting a big hotel chain sponsorship here. But you 134 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: should want everybody under the sun, Democrats, Republicans, independents, people 135 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: who don't vote. Everybody should be your target market. And 136 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: I give them credit. I think you're right. They looked 137 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: into this, they got back to it fast, and they said, 138 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: we're not going to allow this to occur. This guy 139 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: is no longer one of our franchisees. 140 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: The people who decided to send bud Light a message 141 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: to your point, message received by corporate America. Doesn't bud 142 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: Light now who they had with the MMA and they've 143 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: gone at. 144 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: Like some right wing film. 145 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: It still hasn't come back because maybe it's gonna take years. 146 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: No, No, but I just mean that they. 147 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: Spent god knows how much money on the UFC. They 148 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: have spent god knows how much money. I mean, you 149 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: can't watch in a college football or NFL game without 150 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: bud Light commercials everywhere. Look, the most toxic thing that 151 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: you can have if you are a brand that is 152 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: uh that is trying to appeal to men, is the 153 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: idea that you're cool with dudes pretending to be chicks. 154 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 3: Like and everybody just said, yeah, we're not going to 155 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: do this and stop drinking the beer almost overnight. 156 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: Well, you can unpack this really quickly, right. Why do 157 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: the Democrats have such a problem with masculinity? This was 158 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: the big question going into the last election because the 159 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: polling the day it all showed that that is, that 160 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: is an issue for them. If you have a guy, 161 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't care who it is. You can 162 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: have a you know, a jacked three tour super soldier. 163 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: You know, you know, you're like whatever, the ultimated masculinity 164 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: is in your mind. If you sit there and you 165 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: have him, say, in earnestness, not ironically or kidding, I'm 166 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: a male feminist and I believe that men don't have 167 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: that advantage over women in sports. You instantly think that 168 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: this guy is a woos Instantly, Yes. 169 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: There's no way around this. It doesn't matter who you are, 170 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: doesn't You can. 171 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: Have the top you know, NBA or NFL athlete in 172 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: the world, sit down, look you in the face and 173 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: say that, and you're like, oh, so you're just a coward. 174 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: So you actually don't have balls. To borrow from a 175 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: great book, you don't have balls. 176 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: I mean it is and I think it's why it 177 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: had such cultural resonance in twenty twenty four because most 178 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: people it's very complicated what the tax code should be. 179 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: We were talking about off air, it looks like Trump 180 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: was right about tariffs. There now is a huge study 181 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: I'm reading in the Wall Street Journal this morning as 182 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 3: I'm getting ready, saying, actually went back and looked at 183 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 3: one hundred plus years of data, and there is no 184 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 3: evidence of a substantial degree that inflation follows tariffs, despite 185 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: the fact that every economist in the country told you, 186 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: oh my god, if Trump does these tariffs. 187 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: Then the inflation is going to go through the roofs. 188 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: And they were wrong. 189 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: And a lot of economists they're looking around saying, now like, 190 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: how do we all get this so wrong? And by 191 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: the way, a lot of the same economists said we 192 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: could print as much money as possible. Remember bucket wasn't 193 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: very long ago twenty twenty one when they suddenly said, hey, 194 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: modern monetary theory is this new thing, and there's no 195 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: cost associated with just printing way more money. And we 196 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: you and I em are coming on saying, you know, 197 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: I think there's actually pretty good history that when you 198 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: print too much of your currency that the value collapses, 199 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: and there's this idea out there that Biden bought into 200 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: that you could basically print as much money and there 201 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: were going to be no consequences when it came to inflation, 202 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: and then boom. Within a year were at nine percent, 203 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: and we're still trying to deal with the fact of that. 204 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 2: Incompetence. 205 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: This is where and sense is seemingly less common than 206 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: we would want it to be. If you can print 207 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: any money and it doesn't matter, and you'll just deal 208 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: with it, and you'll buy whatever you want and get 209 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: whatever you want with it, we should just set up 210 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: for every American, yes, a bank account, put a million 211 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: dollars in it. 212 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: Yes. 213 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: If that's a problem, why is it a problem? Well, 214 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: once you establish why that's clearly a problem, you understand 215 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: why soon to be forty trillion dollars in debt and 216 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: spending trillions more than we take in every year is 217 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: also a problem. Right, So it's very straightforward stuff. On 218 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: the tariff's issue, I will apply the same common sense. 219 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: This is what we kept saying on the show Clay. Okay, 220 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: somehow every other country in the world, every other Canada, 221 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: the UK, all the other countries in the world, including 222 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: ones that are closest to us culturally, legally, et cetera. 223 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 2: Have tariffs in place. 224 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: Why is it that they're so dumb that they just 225 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: want to do something that doesn't benefit them and raises 226 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: prices for them for no apparent reason. 227 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: Now you can say, oh, no, buck, we recognize it. 228 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 4: No. 229 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: No, The people who are anti tariffs suggested that there 230 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: was really no upside to it either, that it was 231 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: just a bad idea. 232 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: It was just downside. 233 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: You don't even really protect effectively because of the global marketplace, 234 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: your your domestic industry. But Clay, I go back to 235 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: the common sense man, the normy, if you will, the 236 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: same Norman that's asking, are democrats just wrong about everything? 237 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: Narrator voice, Yes they are. Why is everyone else doing 238 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: this if it's so stupid? Every other country in the world, 239 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: some like China doing it very aggressively and getting very 240 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: rich while they do so. Yes, No, I mean, look 241 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: this is now here's the downside. I do think the 242 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: Supreme Court might say the president doesn't have authority to 243 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: implement all of the tariffs that he has upled. Oh so, 244 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: like we can sit here and say Trump was right 245 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: about the tariff front again and he's bringing in. I 246 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: think he's on pace now to bring in six hundred 247 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: billion dollars in tariff revenue in twenty twenty six, if 248 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: the tariffs were allowed to continue, and he was going 249 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: to put that money towards helping to pay down the debt. 250 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, four point three percent growth at 251 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: the end of the third quarter as we're headed into 252 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five. Sorry, 253 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: there is the possibility out there that if growth is 254 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: around five percent that I don't know I've heard anybody 255 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: else say this, that the budget could start with in 256 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: conjunction with the tariffs, that the budget could start to 257 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: come close to being balanced in twenty twenty six and 258 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. Now, that's a very positive that's if 259 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: the economy continues to expand, if continues to grow, and 260 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court says the tariffs are allowed to be upheld. 261 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that they are, and so that could 262 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: turn into a huge mess because how do you give 263 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: back all the money that was taken in through the tariffs. 264 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's one of the challenges the 265 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court is grappling with as they try to break 266 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: down that going forward. In the meantime, Tap to pay 267 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: popular way to pay with a credit card. It's store 268 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: cyber scammers out there. 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Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. 292 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us on this 293 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: Tuesday edition of the program. 294 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: Let's get to a couple of your calls quickly. 295 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: I mentioned that we would do that Gene in Denver, 296 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: what you have for us, wondering. 297 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: How come the Monroe doctrine doesn't apply to Greenland, with 298 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 5: Denmark being in Europe, and same thing with China and 299 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 5: Russia and Venezuela. 300 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: I think you're right. 301 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I think if you're going thank you for 302 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: the call, if you're going to argue that the Donro 303 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: doctrine is a modification or extension of the Monroe doctrine 304 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: for those of you out there who I think was 305 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: eighteen twenty two James Monroe officially put out the Monroe doctrine, 306 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: then I think you could certainly argue that it is 307 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: included in Greenland. And I was reading back there's a 308 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: big story about how China now has got the nuclear 309 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: submarine technology to be traversing underneath the Arctic ice in 310 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: the North Pole. And I think Trump is actually quite 311 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: correct in that as more and more they're able to 312 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: send different ships through the Arctic Circle, Greenland's going to 313 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: become more and more valuable, you know, if. 314 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: You're talking about geography as deterministic here in some way, 315 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: though Canada is like twenty two hundred miles from Greenland 316 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: and Denmark is like twenty two hundred miles. 317 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: It's kind of equidistant, right, I mean, that's where they 318 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: stop off a lot of times to refuel on when 319 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: they had to make those trips. 320 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: Greenland's off off on its own, and so it's a 321 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: little it feels a little more up for grabs geographically. 322 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: And I think you brought up, you know, China Taiwan, 323 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: and you know, and that circumstance. China obviously thinks that 324 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: it does own Taiwan just because and the Taiwanese have 325 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: been living under a different regime actually for quite a 326 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: long time and have a very different view of it. 327 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: But this is where you start to get into is 328 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: international law real or is international law just what the 329 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: consensus pushed by the countries that can do so is 330 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: called meaning that if you have the power to do what, 331 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: you do it and you call it international law because 332 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: you can. 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Venezuela commis not going 362 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: well for them, Mom Donnie. The New York COMMI mayor 363 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: of New York City now not a good thing. Not 364 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: a good thing, very concerning. I've got family in New York. Still, 365 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: I would like New York to be great. Unlike Clay, 366 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: I do. I do not relish the prospect of Manhattan 367 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: Island just sinking into the socialist abyss as some kind 368 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: of a lesson or a cautionary tale for the rest 369 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: of America. Clay, all right, you know what will happen 370 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: to Tim Wallas's Broadway. If Manhattan sinks into the Abyss, 371 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: it will be very, very sad in so many different ways. 372 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: So we've got all this stuff to dive into, and 373 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: we will shortly hear. But let's do some of your 374 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: some of your talkbacks, which are are dare I say fabulous? 375 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: Let's start. We didn't do aa yet, did we? We 376 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: haven't hit any, haven't talked about it anything. 377 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: All right? 378 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 6: AA hit it, hey Clay, but quick Ruslan on Maduro. 379 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 6: This is just a general legal question. 380 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: What gives us the right. 381 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 6: To convict someone of another sovereign country and go take them? 382 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 6: That would stop another sovereign country from making a law 383 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 6: convicting say Trump, and coming and taking him. Thanks for 384 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 6: your feedback. 385 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: The answer is we're America and they're not. 386 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: As in, we have extra territoriality for US federal law, 387 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: which means that as far as we're concerned, if you violate. Now, 388 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: there are a lot of places where US jurisdiction. You know, 389 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: we don't think that we have federal law jurisdiction in 390 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: downtown Moscow for whatever is going on. But an American 391 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: citizen who does something in Russia, we will hold them 392 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: to account. 393 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 7: Right. 394 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: We have a system whereby if you violate our laws 395 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: against the United States or its people, we claim the 396 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: right to bring justice to you. So that that's a 397 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: long way of saying Maduro was selling drugs in the 398 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: United States. Doesn't matter allegedly. I don't think Mduro is 399 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: going to assume me for saying that. But anyway, allegedly, uh. 400 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: And the truth is we don't care that he was, 401 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: even if he was the lawful president of another country. 402 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: Play we might just say, you know what, sorry, you're 403 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: selling drugs into our country. There's there's no exception, exception 404 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: or exemption to US law because you're important in some 405 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: other country. 406 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 407 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 3: Look, I mean, in many ways is real politic and power. 408 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: You know that there could be uh. And there has 409 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 3: been suggestions, oh, we should charge Trump with war crimes, right, 410 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 3: I mean, there's been that suggestion out there. The reality 411 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 3: is they're not going to be able to come and 412 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: get Trump, and they're not going to be able to 413 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: come get any American president and take him to their country. 414 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: Now, I will say. 415 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 3: Mam Donnie said that if net Yahoo came to the 416 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: United States, that that he would arrest. 417 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: Him for war crimes. 418 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that he has as neither the jurisdiction 419 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: nor the cojones to pull off such a maneuver, but 420 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: he did say. 421 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 3: That, yes, yeah, Now I don't know that Mom Donnie 422 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: hasn't answered those questions, and there are all sorts of 423 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 3: different complexities associated with that. But I mean, I think 424 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: the easy answer is we indicted Maduro for violating the 425 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: United States law, and if you violate the unit United 426 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 3: States law, our perspective is we have the right to 427 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 3: hold you accountable and he'll get his jury trial theoretically 428 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 3: in this at some point this year. BB Podcast listener 429 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: PJ from Florida. 430 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: Are a big fan. Listen to you guys every day, Clay. 431 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 5: I just wanted to say that the Easter egg you 432 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 5: snuck in from Office Space when talking about the Governor 433 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 5: of Idaho was noticed and appreciated. 434 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 3: Such a great movie the Michael Catalog. Yeah, that's right, 435 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 3: of course, that's right. Also, we got a lot of 436 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: Office Space fans. Let's see CC by the way, cleaning 437 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: up a couple of things. 438 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: We are big fans of. Let's make sure that I 439 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: get this right. 440 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: We are big fans of Brad Little, current governor of 441 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: Idaho no one, no one bigger. 442 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: Fans than us. 443 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: Let's let's make sure you get it right, because you've 444 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: been thinking about Brad a lot lately. 445 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: Yes, I have. I've been. 446 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: I've been thinking we need to talk about what the 447 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 3: job Brad's doing in Idahou there was the background of 448 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 3: the governor of Idaho. No one loves him more than us. 449 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 3: Podcast listener Paul from Wisconsin. 450 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 7: Hey, Clay, this is Paul from Wisconsin calling in. You 451 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 7: really had my hopes up there when you said a 452 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 7: couple of times that we had arrested Machado, and as 453 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 7: a Brewers fan, I really thought maybe we got Manny 454 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 7: Machatta finally, but apparently it. 455 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: Was Maduro we got. 456 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 7: It wasn't but see, I just thought up there for 457 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 7: a second. 458 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: I thought he was just doing his Spanish pronunciation there, 459 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to correct him. 460 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: I did. 461 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: I got Manny Machado Maduro mixed up, so apologies. Manny 462 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: Machado has not been arrested. He is still a really 463 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: talented baseball player. We did get Maduro though. That's very funny. 464 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: Chris and Tampa w FLA, Hey. 465 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 8: Guys, can y'all help me understand this a little bit better. 466 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 8: You're talking about Greenland, people choosing what country to be 467 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 8: part of, and then you get the Trump administration talking 468 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 8: about taking Greenland. Are you talking about Cuba and then 469 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 8: you're talking about Venezuela. What's the difference between China and 470 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 8: Taiwan and Putin and Ukraine and it's all land grab. 471 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: There's some truth to it. Look there. The entire history 472 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: of the world. 473 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: Is people deciding that they want to expand the sphere 474 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: of influence of their own country and take in other parts. 475 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: What's the great quote from Pompy Magnus, Do not quote 476 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: laws to men with swords. They'll never forget that one, everybody. 477 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: They might have tried to quote some laws to the 478 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: Delta forest before they got whacked in the Cuban security 479 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: team around Maduro. 480 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: Not to be confused with Mahado. 481 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: Now, that is very It's one of the funniest talkbacks 482 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: we've had in a while. Some of the others out 483 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 3: there who are baseball fans, Yeah, my bad on that. 484 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: Let me also, if I were going to distinguish here, 485 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: what I would say is now Russia would likely make 486 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: the same argument. The motivations of the United States as 487 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: it pertains the Venezuela the motivations of the United States, 488 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: as it pertains potentially to Cuba. To other countries, I 489 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 3: would argue that we are providing the average citizen of 490 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 3: those countries a better standard quality of living than they 491 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: would otherwise have and more freedom, and so the average 492 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 3: citizen of Venezuela or Cuba would end up in a 493 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 3: better position than they were before. We are also not 494 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 3: actually engaging in war and killing tens of thousands of 495 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: people as Russia has done with Ukraine. Now Russia would 496 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: say Vladimir Putin, Hey, I'm going to make life better 497 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: for everybody in Ukraine. And this is historically Russian land 498 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 3: that we are reclaiming. So look, I think the biggest 499 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 3: difference is there's not tens of thousands of people dead, 500 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: and the average quality of life in theory of Venezuela 501 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: is much different. And I would say the average Venezuelan 502 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: supports Maduro being taken out of power, as opposed to 503 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: the average Ukrainian who does not support the invasion of Ukraine. 504 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: So if there would be two justinbacks on the Peace 505 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: of Westphalia sixteen forty eight to start flying in here 506 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: and the origin of the modern nation state system, what's 507 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: considered the origin of it as we know it. I 508 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: would say that the lines on the map that represent 509 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: national boundaries, that is actually just the extent to which 510 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: an entity can enforce. 511 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: With force its political will and sovereignty. That's it. 512 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: The lines on the map are drawn by agreement based 513 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: upon power. That's actually the truth. So, yeah, is it arbitrary, Sure, 514 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: it's arbitrary, but that's. 515 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: The world that we live in. It's the best that 516 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: we've got. 517 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 3: This is one of the nerdiest talkbacks we've ever gotten. 518 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: Buck and I don't even I'm gonna be honest, I 519 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: don't know if he's correct, but it's so specific I'm 520 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: going to say that he is correct. TB from Cincinnati, 521 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: listening on fifty five KRC says about Greenland listen. 522 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 4: Ff citizens of Greenland are full citizens of Denmark and 523 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: the EU. This is a result of the Treaty of 524 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 4: Keel in eighteen fourteen. And then to comment about NATO 525 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 4: just complete nonsense. 526 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: I don't remember the NATO part, but I don't know 527 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 3: anything about the Treaty of Keel. I doubt very many 528 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: people are experts on the Treaty of Keel out here, 529 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: I have read quite a lot about Greenland, and my 530 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: understanding is that the people of Greenland have the ability 531 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 3: to have a referendum where they could be allowed to 532 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 3: vote as to whether they would like to be citizens 533 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: of Denmark or citizens of the United States. That that 534 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: is in their constitutional right. Remember, there are only thirty 535 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: thousand or so people who live in Greenland, So there 536 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: has been some talk that the United States could just 537 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: give all of those individual citizens of Greenland a certain 538 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: amount of money and say, hey, we want you to 539 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: now be a part of the United States protectorate. 540 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: When you include in this that the mineral rights alone 541 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: and fishing rights, things like that that would seed to 542 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: the United States if Greenland were to become US sovereign territory. 543 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: The price that we would pay those thirty thousand green 544 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: lenders would be a pittance. Yeah, would be great for them, 545 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: but a pittance for us in terms of the long 546 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: term implications of this. And Denmark has no prayer, no 547 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: no will, no budget, no ability to develop those resources 548 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: in the way that would be most beneficial to the 549 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: whole world. Actually, because you're talking about a lot of 550 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: like I said, mineral rights, there's oil and things like that, 551 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: you do offshore drilling all this, so yeah, there's a 552 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: lot a lot. 553 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: Going on there. What doctor Joe emailed us, he's a VIP. 554 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: He says, what about this, pay each of the thirty 555 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 3: thousand inhabitants of Greenland one hundred grand plus pay Denmark, 556 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: say ten billion or so, total cost about thirteen billion. 557 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure the total nationwide cost of the Somali scam 558 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: would probably cover that, and it would be it would 559 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: be malpractice for Denmark if we made a real offer, 560 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: you know, not just like Trump having some fun on 561 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: TV and about this stuff and musing aloud. And I'm 562 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: not sure that Trump isn't gonna make a real offer, 563 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: by the way, I'm not convinced that that's not on 564 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: the table at some point. But if they made a 565 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: real offer to Denmark, for the people of Denmark to 566 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: sell this territory, uh, why if you're the leadership of Denmark, like, 567 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: why do you care? I think it's great, it's a 568 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: great question because they think that the value based on 569 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: Arctic lane shipping opening, I think is incredibly valuable to Denmark. 570 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: By the way, doctor Joe says, this too. I don't 571 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: know if he's right or not. 572 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: Buck. This is addressed to you. Remember Greenland was green 573 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: when the Vikings lived there. The earth used to. 574 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 3: Be warmer Medieval Warming period, much more fertile and habitable. 575 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: We need the globe to warm, just saying so. 576 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: I am not. 577 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: And we got to now look up not only that treaty, 578 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: but also what was the weather like in twelve hundred 579 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: in Greenland? 580 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: All right, Greenland? 581 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: According to Grock, Viking explorer Eric the Red call that 582 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: Greenland around nine eighty two a d. As a clever 583 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: marketing tactic to attract settlers. 584 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: I thought you were right. I thought you were right, 585 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: and doctor Joe was wrong. I'm just reading. 586 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: Highlighting these surprisingly green, habitable coastal areas which did exist 587 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: during the Medieval warm period, but most of the island 588 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: was still covered in ice. The whole idea was that 589 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: it suggested you would arrive on these green coasts and 590 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: think that you would you know that you had like 591 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: a big version of Ireland. 592 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: You had landed in Ireland. 593 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: By the way, the Vikings founded the city of Dublin. 594 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: For those who didn't know, the Vikings actually founded the 595 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: Great City of York in northern England. The Vikings had 596 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: a whole lot bigger hand in European history than a 597 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: lot of people realized. Side note, but yeah, so Greenland, 598 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: it was marketing, it was green herb, but it still 599 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: wasn't that green my friends, Because you'll notice I think 600 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: there was no settlement like way deep in the middle 601 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: of Greenland. 602 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 3: There's a reason for that. Do you think the King's 603 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 3: discovered America before Columbus? 604 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't There isn't there evidence there they landed in, 605 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: or that there's belief that they landed in like what 606 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: would be Newfoundland or. 607 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: Something like that. 608 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are suggestions that there were there 609 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: were people living there in like the eleven hundred z. 610 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: In fact, I think we should just do a whole 611 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: podcast about how Aliens discovered America alongside the Vikings and 612 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: tell everybody we have secret proof for it that will 613 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: emerge in six months, and rack up really big numbers 614 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: based on our secret special knowledge and then just be like, 615 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: oh man, we were way off, Samsonite, I was way off. 616 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: You know. That's That's where I think we're heading on 617 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: that one. See if anyone catches that movie reference. By 618 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: the way, glad did you get that one? I did? 619 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: Guys like the Easter eggs, Samsonite, I was way off, 620 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: don't google it. 621 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: One of you is going to get that's a little obscure. 622 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: Swans Swanson's Swans Samsonite. 623 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: I was way off. One of you going to get it. 624 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: One of you is going to get it. And a 625 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: lot of you are like, buck, what are you talking about? 626 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: You're talking a few million people. Stop spewing nonsense. 627 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: Uhait. 628 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: What was I gonna say about selling territory Clay? If 629 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: if we offered Denmark, just theoretically we said Denmark, we'll 630 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: give you a trillion dollars for Greenland. They're insane not 631 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: to take. 632 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: That off correct. Think of what that would do for 633 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: the Danish people. 634 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: Right If if China came along and said, hey, we 635 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: are just going to buy New Jersey. We're just gonna 636 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: take New Jersey. We'll give you a great price as 637 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: a New Yorker, I don't know. I think New Jersey 638 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: would do okay, a lot of dumplings, a lot of 639 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, you'd be. 640 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: Okay, New Jersey. We'd sell you, we'd still visit sometimes, 641 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: you'd be all right. What state would you want to sell. Oh, 642 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: that's a great question. 643 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: I just like, if we had to sell a state, 644 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 3: or like if we were bartering, like trading, we get 645 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 3: you know, Cuba and Venezuela and Greenland, but we have 646 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: to give up New Mexico. I think that's probably a 647 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 3: trade i'd make. Sorry, New Mexico. 648 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm like, do we have any stations in New 649 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: Mexico that I need to just say it? 650 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know that the world of. 651 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: The United States would be different if we didn't have 652 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 3: New Mexico. Like if we gave Mexico back in New 653 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 3: Mexico might make some sense. And we got you know, 654 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 3: we got Venezuela, and we got Greenland and we got Cuba. 655 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: I think that would be a good, good trade. Now 656 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 3: breaking bad, fabulous show filmed in Albuquerque. 657 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: That would be tough. I have to jump in. 658 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: We can continue this, but we're about to run into 659 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 1: our herd break here, So I'm gonna stop Clay from 660 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: insulting more states. Notice that I just playfully insulted New Jersey. 661 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: Clay meanwhile, wants Manhattan to sink into the Abyss and 662 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: wants to give away New Mexico to the Chinese Okay, 663 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: traded traded. A lot of people make New Year's resolutions, 664 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: my friends, to get healthier. 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Use my name Buck for a huge discount 686 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: on any description. 687 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: News you can count on, and some laughs too. Clay 688 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 2: Travis and Buck Sexton. 689 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 3: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 690 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 3: get your podcasts. 691 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got 692 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: a super quick turn. I'm sorry you were supposed to 693 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: do that, Clay, but it's so quick. 694 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: Who cares. 695 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to shield you a little bit right 696 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: now from all the rage of New Mexico. They are 697 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: rising up against you like a like the Navajo uprisings 698 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: of old. They are very upset in New Mexico about 699 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: your commentary. 700 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 3: I mean, look, somebody has to be fiftieth. I just 701 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 3: think if we had to give up one state, if 702 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: we had to trade for better territory, I think Now 703 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: Mexico is the easy choice. When we come back. My 704 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 3: governor campaign for New Mexico is off to a slow start. 705 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 2: We'll discuss