WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 12/29: Grading the Defense, Route Running Issues and Dolphins Preview 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.640 This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:11.639 Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm Lazar, Well everybody nailed it, 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:17.960 joined us always buying our pick DAFA match. Here is 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.079 Evan Lazar and Alex Bark. I sent you that the 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.480 clip of Brady throwing that slam. Okay, that was the 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:29.000 He doesn't he doesn't like it when I bring up Brady. 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.760 Hello everybody, and welcome into a video edition. We're back 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.040 on video. Yeah, back on. I might need to move 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.199 or something. I don't know. All right, anyways, we got 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.519 the solo. This is great. This is back to our roots. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.800 And not only do we have video, but we got 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.120 you know, they change the camera angles. They can put 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.960 us in a two box. There we go, there's this box. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.920 This is look at that next level video. I'm excited. Uh, 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.400 like I said Evan Lazar alongside me, as always Alex 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.280 Barth and uh, we got a little bit of to 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.480 unpack your today. But as I normally do, I always 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.520 start with like a twenty minute soliloquy that I've been 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.240 thinking about for the last week since we were on 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.880 the air last Thursday or was a Wednesday, I don't 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:15.840 even remember. Anyways, and this one, this one has to 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:21.520 do I think more so with what I'm seeing on 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.120 social media, the callers that we're having call in as well. 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.759 But mostly I'm going to be personal about it and 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.120 say that it's it's really my social media that I'm 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.119 seeing this on, all right, and it's starting to drive 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.840 me up in an absolute wall. Okay, and I send 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.440 you Last night, I was trying to look for the 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.560 words to perfectly explain how I feel, and I think 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.080 I'm scrambling to pull up the tweet that I think 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.120 Robert May's from the Athletic who I love. He had 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.920 the perfect synopsis of what we're going through right now 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.279 in New England at the quarterback position with Mac Jones, 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.520 and that is that we now live in a black 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:03.840 and white quarterback situation where it's either you stink or 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.880 you're elite, and there's no there's no middle ground. And 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.440 I think what's more important about the no middle ground 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.079 is that there's no nuance to the conversation. It's all 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.480 just yes or no, did you complete the pass or not? 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.480 Did you produce or did you not produce? And there's 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:23.600 no conversation about the details about the nuance of how 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.480 we got here, and I think the biggest thing with 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:32.080 Mac Jones and I don't know if Mac Jones is 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.280 good or not. I don't know. I don't know if 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.400 he's the guy or the franchise quarterback or whatever you 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.200 know term you want to use. What I do know 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:47.680 is that if you've decided based off of this season 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.120 that Mac Jones is not the guy, you don't know football. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:57.720 You don't know football. You're moron. Sorry, you're dumb because 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.639 you can't decide that based off of this You just can't. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:07.680 You can't properly evaluate that position with the absolute dumpster 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.120 fire that they have put him in. And let me sorry, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:12.560 let me let me build on that real quick. I 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.200 don't want to cut off your momentum. But honestly, if 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.280 it was just this season, and I've heard people say this, 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.920 if it was just this season, maybe there's a little 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.560 bit of an argument, but what we're just throwing last 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:25.680 year out right, when he took them to the playoffs 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.400 as a rookie, and could he have played better shore? 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.840 But I don't think people realize how hard that is 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.800 to do. So I don't want to cut your your 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.760 your rants off, but one I wanted to say, there's 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.480 a lot of familiar names in the chat on YouTube, 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.320 which is awesome. And two, yeah, I just love that 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.920 tweet so much about either your elite or you suck. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.880 And I think the error that we grew up in 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.080 that has kind of ended at this point, right. And 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:49.640 when I say we grew up, I mean when we 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.040 were in like middle school. Right, you have Brady Manning, 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.200 Breeze Flacco written not Flacco but like Rivers. You're like 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:02.320 you at all, Big Ben. Yeah, Like, that's not normal. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.240 I think people just assume that you're gonna be able 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:09.160 to get an elite quarterback when in reality there's three 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.600 or four of those guys at most at one time 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:17.760 crowd the league, Right, is a league that era from 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.000 like two thousand and five to two thousand and fifteen 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.440 will never be replicated again in terms of the quarterback 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.560 talent around the league. It's not coming back. That's not 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.280 the norm. And Evan, this goes to a take I 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.359 have that we've talked about a lot on this show. Ye, 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.200 the time it will take you to find that elite 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.960 quarterback is simply not worth it. It's not unless you 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:42.840 are picking at the very top of the draft, and 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.599 there is a no dug ey there, Lawrence right as 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:50.400 opposed to him, there's there's fifty two other players on 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:54.960 the roster, finding fifty two other really good players, and 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.080 then a quarterback that just won't screw it up. But 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.760 that that quarterback, a quarterback who just won't screw it up, 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.200 which there are teams in the league that have pined 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.320 for that guy for decades, is now considered a bump yeah, 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.520 which is mind blowingly dumb, Like you said off the tip, 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.440 So I want to keep hammering home the point that 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:17.120 this is not a mac Jones is actually secretly elite 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.880 rant right, Like, this is not that this is I 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.159 don't know how everybody's ready, not everybody. I don't know 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.320 how so many people are ready to just pronounce his 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.000 career dead off of playing quarterback with Matt Patricia calling 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.680 your play. This isn't This isn't just oh, well, sophomore 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.839 slump he st No, this is an unprecedented situation. The 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.800 regression here is not this isn't just oh it's the 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.200 second year and defense has figured him out and they're 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.760 giving him new looks that that's not what this looks. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:51.479 That might have been down the stretch last year, right, right, right, exactly, Yeah, yeah, 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:56.239 So the most important thing I would say with football, 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.240 and really with a lot of team sports, but in 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:02.039 football in particular, you have to have good structure, right. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.360 You have to have a good foundation of what you're 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.640 doing offense or defense, it doesn't matter. So on offense, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:12.240 that means a stable offensive line, a plan, right, a 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.600 good system with a plan going in of what you're 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.800 going to execute, what you're gonna do, a certain rhythm 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.080 or timing to your passing game from quarterback and receivers, 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:23.960 which has been something that we're going to talk about 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.280 that's been a huge issue for the Patriots. And defensively, 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.000 it's the same thing. You could have eleven of the 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.920 best athletes out on defense, if they're all running around 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.280 with their chickens with their heads killed off, you're gonna 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.960 be a bad defense. You could have eleven above average 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.679 or just average NFL athletes, if they're all on a string, 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.400 you're gonna be a good defense. Right. It's structure. Okay, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.320 I go ask the Cleveland brown It's the ultimate team 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.760 game because the Cleveland Browns have great talent on the 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.440 defense side of the ball. Miles Garrett, Davian Clowney, Denzel Award, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:02.880 Jeremiah Assa, Jock Ja. Yeah. Yeah, they have talent on 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.440 that side of the ball. They're poorly coordinated. They run 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.000 around like crazy people, right, they don't know where they're going. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:13.200 They don't have structure. Okay, so that's the most important thing. Well, 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.360 hang on, let's let's uh. I'm trying to find the 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:17.960 exact quote. I can't remember what it is from the 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:22.640 Bill Belichick Nick Saban documentary on HBOG. Remember that where 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.400 Bill says something along the lines of good players can't 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.840 overcome bad coaching. Yeah, and he also said that sometimes 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.200 we overcomplicate things when you lost again because he can't tackle, right. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.920 That was that was the the punchline of that whole 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.400 rant from the two of them, right, was, sometimes we 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.640 get into scheme and matchups and this and that and 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.440 the other thing, and we you know what, guys, I 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.600 think we just didn't have a good day tackling. I 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.920 think that's what it comes down to. So this is, 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.200 by the way, that was the exact quote, good players 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.720 can't overcome bad coaching. I want to get into specific 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.240 examples because I don't want to just throw this out 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.920 there of it's not Max, not the problem and all 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.600 that kind of stuff. I want to give you specific examples, 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.560 and I'm not even going to give you example. So 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.640 we do on that. We don't just spew, you know, 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.640 take we back it up is I don't even want 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.720 to give examples. I'm going to get to the to 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.040 the low lights examples. I actually want to give you 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:18.800 examples of highlights first and why these plays were made 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.000 to be so difficult on the quarterback even though it 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.160 was actually a good play. So the first one I 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.440 want to bring up is the seem splitter to Kendrick 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.440 Bourne where he throws the ball into the Tampa two 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.719 defense and it looks like he throws the ball in 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.600 a triple coverage and he asked to thread the needle 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.320 between three guys because he had to. The reason why 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.200 is that on that play they're running dagger right. Dagger 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.160 is just that middle read route by Kendrick Bourne and 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.199 then a dig route filling in underneath it. If you 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.600 go and watch it on film, they get exactly what 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.240 they want. They get Kendrick Bourne to clear out the 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.520 Tampa two the middle of the defense, and there is 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.199 a parting of the red seas between the numbers right, 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.960 like literally the numbers are wide open in the middle 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.199 of the field. The problem is is that Tai Kwon 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.000 Thornton takes his sweet time running the dig route on 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:13.920 the dagger route just lattidati dottid running up the field right, 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.640 and he doesn't actually become an option on the play. 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.280 So mac Jones is reading the play and there's only 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.080 one other route backside, which is kind of not even 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.960 a part of it, right, and he's waiting to read 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.120 out the play and he's like, the only way that 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.800 I'm going to complete this pass right now is if 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.960 I drop a dime to Kendrick Bourne on the head 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.560 of the Tampa two defender and in between the like 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:40.440 I have to throw this ball on a seed into 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:42.760 triple coverage, Like that's the only completion on the field 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.080 right now. And that's what he did. But that was 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.360 made more difficult because Taikwon Thornton didn't run the route hard. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.480 But let me let me just first of all, let 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.080 me just add some context to that too, and what 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.080 happened there, I hear. There's two big complaints I hear 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.320 about mac Jones a lot. Yes, he constantly throws in 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.360 a triple coverage double a trip coverage, and he doesn't 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:06.360 throw guys open. Yeah, well you can't not do both 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.800 of those things. If a guy's already open, you can't 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.360 throw him open. That doesn't make sense. And if you 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.920 want the quarterback to throw guys open, well then he 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.760 has to throw it covered receivers. That was a great 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:21.040 example that the player talking about Kendrick porn of Heat 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.480 threw Kendrick Borne, and Kendrick makes a great play to 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.160 go up and get that ball too. Like that is. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.960 They made that play last year right against the Browns 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.200 for a touchdown, and I wouldn't shut up for the 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.000 rest of the year. You remember this about how that 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.160 was such a high level play and that play was 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.160 the reason I have long term faith and all of 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.040 it right, high level play from both of them. But 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:41.920 also it wasn't a fluke because they did it last 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.199 year and they did it again. So I just I 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.760 thought that play itself. I know you're going in a 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.280 different direction, but I just want to throw that in 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.959 as a great example of why mac Jones isn't worth 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.400 quitting one because and then you said, well, why doesn't 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.160 he make that play more often he isn't had a 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.880 ton of opportunities for reasons outside of his own control. 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:02.600 I mean, look, Kendrick Boorne hasn't been on the field. 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.520 It just is night. So it's a very low percentage throw. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.520 But the reason why he has to even attempt it 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.240 in the first place is because the high percentage throw 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:15.200 never comes to fruition, right, Right, So then on the 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.360 sideline catch to Kendrick Bourne where Born taps his toes 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.280 in and they the one that was reviewed and reversed 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.599 as a as a catch right on the side of 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.760 It's four verts. Okay, it's literally four verticals. It's the 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.760 simplest concept in the in the league. Four verticals. And 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.920 I don't want to pick on Scottie Washington too much 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.520 because Scottie Washington probably shouldn't even been in the game, right. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:38.719 It's a practice squad elevation. He's only but he is 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.480 indecisive on his route coming up the seam, so he 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:46.440 doesn't actually threaten the half field safety on that side 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.600 of the field. It doesn't put the safety in conflict. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.840 It's supposed to two on one the safety in the 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.840 deep part of the field, but it doesn't because Scotty 0:11:54.920 --> 0:12:00.240 Washington is not actually threatening up the seam, so the 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.760 safety on that half side of the field gets to 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.800 cheat to the sideline. So that's another throw that mac 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.800 Jones has to back shoulder to Kendrick Bourne to keep 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.200 it away from the safety, and he has to throw 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.080 it from the far hash and Kendrick Bourne has to 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.600 make a circus catch along the sideline just to get 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:23.439 it complete. These are the little details, like the Taekwon route, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.360 the Scotty Washington route like these are the little details 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.400 of why this offense always looks like it's it's so 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.400 hard for them to just complete a pass, right, okay, 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.880 And this isn't even getting into first third down to 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:39.600 say the receivers collide or they call you know, they 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.240 show blitz, they see it coming. Mac Jones adjust the 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.480 protection at the line of scrimmage and Kevin Harris goes 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.800 the wrong way and it's an unblocked runner and he's 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.680 almost sacked for safety on their own goal line. Or 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.800 the play action pass that's going around Twitter, and everybody's 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.679 telling me that I don't I don't know what I'm 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:01.880 talking about, right, because they're right, you know, Quarterbacks Expert 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.760 six seven nine. When three followers. He knows football right, 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.120 football coach. He coached his son's Pop Orner team last year, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:14.679 and he's telling me that Mac is late, that he's 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:20.760 late on the throw. Don't mind you that Jacoby Myers 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.160 running an option route down the field where he can 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.560 kind of break it down and break inside or out. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.120 It takes ten minutes to run the damn route, right, 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.800 And so mac Jones is sitting there waiting. Everybody's like, 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.560 he should anticipate. It's an option route. He could break 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.679 in or out. If he breaks in, or excuse me, 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.480 if he breaks out and mac Jones throws in, it's 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.760 a pick six the other way. And then we're all like, well, 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:44.320 why did he throw the ball? That's the play against 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.079 the Jets that got called back for the roughing. It's 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.040 a similar idea, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like it 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.960 would be the same. That's the alternative outcome, right, And 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.520 everybody's like, oh, Mac, Mac holds the ball too long. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.360 The route needs to declare, right, like you need to 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.880 give the quarterback a clear indication of are you breaking 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.960 in or are you breaking Oh? Taekwon Thornton was opened deep. 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.839 He was open deep after Mac Jones already threw the 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.920 ball right because right, So this is what I'm talking 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:15.520 about when I look at the little details of what's 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.720 going on, and i'm that specific play action pass. Jacoby's 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.360 running an option route. He has a downfield option to 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.800 break in or break out based off of the cornerbacks position. 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:32.280 And that's one of those plays where ideally your quarterbacks 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.000 drop is set up and syncd up to the fact 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:36.880 that that route's going to take a little bit longer 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.320 to run, right, So they run it on a five 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.000 step drop, which is more like a bang play action right, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.760 hit the backfoot, balls out onto a dig route and 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.920 we're off and running. I posted the exact play that 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.920 they ran last year that's supposed to look like against 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.480 the Texans last year, where it's back of the foot 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.920 hits the ground from mac Jones. Jacoby breaks in, balls 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:00.520 there and we're off to the races. And this instance, 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.920 he's standing there and he's patting the baby. He's holding 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.760 the football like come on, come on, come on, right, 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:07.880 and then he has to throw it behind him because 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:13.000 the safety is about to clean him out and it's late. Well, 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.520 it's it's you know, you hear the concept about like 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.000 looking at backs right when the quarterback gets to that 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.840 final step in his drop, he wants to be able 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.920 to throw the ball. But you can't throw the ball 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:25.400 for the most part. You can't throw the ball to 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.000 somebody who's not looking. You might have some sort of 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.800 back shoulder concept or something, but you talk about the 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.560 timing and the chemistry of the offense, they're just not 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.440 there right now. The guys need to be looking at 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.880 Mac Jones right for him to be able to throw 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.200 the ball. And if and this is where a lot 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.720 of the you know, oh well Mac holds the ball 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.560 talk and Dan Rolovski has done great breakdowns on this 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.680 on Twitter. Yeah, when the quarterback gets to that backstep 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.720 of the drop, if he's looking around at his reads 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.360 and all he sees are the backs of helmets, what's 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.200 he supposed to do right, right, You're just gonna blind throw. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:01.600 That's how it turns into interceptions. So that and really 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.200 what this all comes down to, This is why this 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.440 year has been so frustrating, is it is really tough 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.120 to tell exactly what's wrong with this offense unless you 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.600 watch it on this level. You watch it on the film. 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.320 You can, I can, and I can promise you, and 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:16.840 I know I'm taking a lot of shots at the 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.120 Twitter coaches and all that, I can promise you that 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.120 I can tell that you don't watch the film. I 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.400 can tell it's like okay, because you're watching it on TV. 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.680 He's throwing balls in can please, throwing balls behind quote 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.000 unquote behind receivers and you're saying, you know this is 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.200 it's Max Fall, Like what does he doing? But you're 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.560 not watching the detail of the play and seeing why 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.160 it happens. The protection breaks down, Jacoby takes his time 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.000 on the route like all these different factors of timing. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.760 And I asked Mac Jones about this yesterday and I 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:51.040 don't think he was necessarily throwing shade, but I'm gonna 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.800 let I'm gonna say he was for me, right, for me, 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.520 Not for throwing shade at you. No, no, no, no, 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.960 throwing shade at them at the offense right when game 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.240 time comes, it's not It's got to be in rhythm. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.280 The spacing needs to be good. That's how really good 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:13.520 offenses work. It's not wrong. Timing, spacing, rhythm, that's what 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.879 good offenses do. He's not wrong. We don't have a 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:21.000 good offense. Is what he's saying. We don't have spacing, 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.040 we don't have timing and rhythm in the passing game. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.960 This isn't Madden. You can't just sit there and say, oh, 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.399 you know why flash is open? Why isn't he throwing to? 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:37.080 Why it doesn't work that way in real life? And again, 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.920 this is not me saying that I think that mac 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.720 Jones is secretly Tom Brady and they're holding the kid back. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.520 It's me saying that I don't know what mac Jones 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.440 is because all of this stuff is holding him back 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.280 so much that we can't make an evaluation on the Colt. 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.040 Let me let me phrase that another way, because I 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.640 think this argument has maybe gotten through to some people more. Yes, 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.960 name a quarterback who does succeed in the situation. Honestly, 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.080 I thought about this last night because I knew that 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:04.920 that was going to sort of be the because then 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.399 that's what people say, Well, well, there's other quarterbacks that 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:11.560 are in bad situations, not like this. I don't watch 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:16.239 enough Uh Colts or Houston Texans film. I've seen the 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.640 Colts have unfortunately been on primetime like a whole lot lately. Yeah, 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.280 we've got a whole lot of cults. Yeah, but I don't. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.760 I haven't watched the Texans closely, but those statistically, it's 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.159 the Patriots, it's the Colts, the Texans. Those are the 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.680 three worst offenses in the NFL right now statistically, So 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.080 I don't watch a ton of their team. But I 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:38.160 thought about it as well, of if this was if 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.680 Joe Burrow was in this offense and you switched the 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.879 quarterbacks on Sunday, Like we're talking about what's wrong with 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.000 Joe Burrow? Right right? That's like that's plastered all over 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.840 ESPN right now, is what's wrong with Joe Burrow? Why 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.520 does he look like this nineteen Brady you know, Rogers 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.480 at the beginning of the year this year because they're 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.479 throughout the year because there was no trust in the right. 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.320 There's no timing, there's no rhythm, there's no trust, there's 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.320 no nothing that they can hang their hat on like 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:09.119 that's good offense. And I just I find it really 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:13.560 infuriating that. Obviously, I find it infuriating when everybody is 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.280 a genius and knows football, so that's what that's besides 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.880 the point. I find it more infuriating that people are 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:25.200 writing Mac Jones off without the caveat of what he's 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:30.000 playing in Like last year with Trevor Lawrence, well urban Meyer, 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.160 I mean, how could you anybody that's probably the most 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.480 comparable situation. And we all said, right, you need to 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.600 see what happens when urban Meyer isn't there, right, and 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.119 he can look at what happen Peterson, who's not I 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.160 don't think Doug Peterson is like some savant like this 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.600 is not Bill Walsh walking through the door. But he's 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:49.760 a professional offensive coach, right, He's a professional offensive coach, 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.040 has done it at a high level, that's been around 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:55.120 the block a billion times, and he knows what he's 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.600 doing on that side of the ball. And look at 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.760 the season that I think I saw that Trevor Lawrence 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.400 has the biggest increase in passer rating from year one 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.400 to year two in NFL history, all because he has 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.080 some competent coaching. Right. They really didn't even change the 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.000 personel that much. I mean, they added Calvin Riel is coming, 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.359 but he's not added Christian Kirk. That's pretty much it 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.080 who everybody thought they overpaid it. And and Evan Ingram, 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:19.760 who I would say that's a coaching like the way 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.359 they're using him is so different than the way he 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:23.840 was being used in New York or the way they 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.800 use their tight ends last year. So yeah, it's it's 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.119 it's a tough year because you want to try to 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.239 explain it to people and that's our job, right, yes, 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.199 but there's really there's no real way to do it 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:39.240 without kind of sounding a little pretentious and saying you 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.600 have to watch the game. And I understand that just 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.159 sounded like a complete It will shout out to the 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.040 people who watched this show and listen to the show, 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:47.800 because they they I think they get that. I think 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:52.359 the people are turning into this show understand that. I 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.480 sometimes he's see an office. Oh they're not fast enough, 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:56.359 Oh they're not big, Like oh they make a lot 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:57.960