WEBVTT - We No Longer Come To This Place For Magic

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you have a slanket somewhere to feel with your farts?

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<v Speaker 1>She's sheen am me? No me not my name? Yo? No?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your childe Rada?

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<v Speaker 2>I am a cook chok Yo. Life's going down before

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<v Speaker 2>like und Welcome to like a Virgin, the show where

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<v Speaker 2>we give yesterday's pop culture today's takes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'mra's DomU and I'm fran Torado. And I believe this

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<v Speaker 1>fruit fly that has followed me from home to the

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<v Speaker 1>studio because I know it's not from the studio. I

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<v Speaker 1>am where right here on this mic? Oh there it

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<v Speaker 1>just left. I'm just noticing that because okay, this is virgins,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the state I'm coming to you today. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a kind of fucked up foot from something that

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<v Speaker 1>happened on Fire Island that was probably I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know why. But I was on the boardwalk.

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<v Speaker 1>I was barefoot, and the rest is her story. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a place you ever want to be barefoot. That's the whole,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. You can't walk around Fire Island barefoot. No, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there it is. Oh, I got it. Did you see that?

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<v Speaker 2>I got it?

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<v Speaker 1>That was some jiu jitsu fly catching right for all of.

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<v Speaker 2>Our vegan virgins out there. Don't come for FRANSA.

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<v Speaker 1>Be on my ass. Okay, I promising likeness on the

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<v Speaker 1>hunger Why must you always bring it back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Hunger Games? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So everything it just works.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm rounding to a point basically, on Fireland, do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're invited to kill it? It's still I

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<v Speaker 1>on Fireland.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think you're in security?

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<v Speaker 1>You think you're invincible? Plan you're not lo and behold. I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fucked up my foot and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>my foot is fine, and so I only stayed off

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<v Speaker 1>of it for three days and then started walking on

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<v Speaker 1>it again and that made it worse. And now I

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<v Speaker 1>have to stay off my foot indefinitely until it feels better.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm coming to you today having just barely left

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<v Speaker 1>an ram cycle. I'm feeling a little zomkeed. I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 1>a little down. I'm also on a medication tolerance brank.

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<v Speaker 1>So I, Oh, there's a fly. I saw you seeing it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have it?

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<v Speaker 1>The fly is our guest. Yes, this fly is sorry

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<v Speaker 1>in the upcoming film, Yeah, Red White and Royal Blue.

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<v Speaker 2>This fly is gonna is gonna share. You know some

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<v Speaker 2>formative culture with us.

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<v Speaker 1>This The Fly is actually the first out gay fly

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<v Speaker 1>in the next season Survivor.

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<v Speaker 2>So you are going through it, You're struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going through it. I'm struggling. I overslept and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling a little zomkeed. I have to lay in

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<v Speaker 1>bed indefinitely for probably the whole week, which sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a really great thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not if you are someone who already spends

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time laying around in bed, which I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And so my my point to all of this and

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<v Speaker 1>why it all comes back to the fruit Fly is

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<v Speaker 1>I am on a medication tolerance break, so my brain

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<v Speaker 1>is like, really really not in its best.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you what are you refraining from taking so

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<v Speaker 2>you can tolerate it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean my antidepressants, and I took out it all

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, but I haven't been on adderall. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also not doing Estra Doll for a minute. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like taking a break from it all for like

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<v Speaker 1>five days, because I'm like, if I have to be home,

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<v Speaker 1>why not. But then that means that my house is discussed.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you take estradile, you take pills? I do every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't do the shots, but oh my god, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something I can talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So the my first I've now had two doctor visits

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<v Speaker 1>for my foot. My first doctor visit, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Apacha and she basically sat down, looked at

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<v Speaker 1>my phone. She was like, you should see a derm

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, well, that's helpful. She was like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything else that can help you with and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, that's okay. I'm just I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go figure out another appointment and get some help

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And she goes, well, how's the hormone therapy going?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I'm not I just talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this with my doctor, Like you're not my doctor, like whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Random doctor that they had slotted in that was available.

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<v Speaker 1>And she goes, well, I assume you're not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like fully feminize, but are you considering blockers? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like and like, I assume I'm gonna assume the

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<v Speaker 1>best of this doctor because she actually seemed really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I assumed that she like maybe looked at my record,

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<v Speaker 1>which had like information about me not being like a

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<v Speaker 1>binary trans.

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<v Speaker 2>Person still a weird thing to say.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like she clocked my tea. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>call me a brick mom, like I know, like I

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<v Speaker 1>mean maybe I had more facial her that day or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was just might well have walked in saying it.

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<v Speaker 2>She was up brick house, which she's like like her

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<v Speaker 2>phone and that's the ringtone.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when she said have you considered going out on blockers?

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<v Speaker 1>I heard like the drag race like rattlesnake, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>But so I just want to say, Spiro is evil.

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<v Speaker 2>Spiro is evil. I will say this until the end

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<v Speaker 2>of time. Spiro is the most evil thing you can

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<v Speaker 2>put in your body.

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<v Speaker 1>In my experience, and in my experience, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of girls, though have that experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I don't. I don't know any trans women who

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<v Speaker 2>were on Spiral actin.

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<v Speaker 1>Well wait at all, or they were on it momentarily

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<v Speaker 1>and then who are currently on Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the girls try it and then so

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you. This woman convinced me to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get a prescription for blockers, which I will

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<v Speaker 1>maybe try. Well, I don't think I'm gonna use it if.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to lose all your body hair, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing, give yourself more hair, and I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>the possibility. If you want to lose all your body hair,

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<v Speaker 2>make the hair on your head grow thicker and like

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<v Speaker 2>less male pattern. If you want your like skin to

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<v Speaker 2>soften and your fat to distribute in more womanly ways, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>But if you want to piss every five to seven minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to be horrifically irritable at all times

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<v Speaker 2>and like super sensitive and want to kill yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And potentially never coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I never had a problem coming ever. Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like physically coming, physically noticing. Oh yeah. For

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<v Speaker 2>for years I had no ji yeah, and led me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what women, and it led me to seek jes

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<v Speaker 2>out in others. Right, Like Spiro is directly responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>my cum fetish. Like I liked come before I transitioned,

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<v Speaker 2>but then once I had none, I was like, give me,

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<v Speaker 2>come give me, Come give me, com give me, come

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<v Speaker 2>give me, come give me, come give me. Come.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, in the in the time, since now

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm only on estradal, I don't come as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I used to. But I come now, Okay, oh

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<v Speaker 2>that's great. Yeah. Sometimes I even shoot, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, you can get it back, because sometimes it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you can get it back. Okay, that's amazing. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say you momentarily invoked Carlie Ray Jefson

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<v Speaker 1>with give Me Come.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like that. You didn't listen to the new album,

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<v Speaker 1>did you?

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<v Speaker 2>I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave it one listen through. And I and I

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<v Speaker 1>we've already talked a bit at length about Carli Ray

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps the youth not the problem with carl Ray,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's like a kind of lass. There's a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of like something to grip onto with her, Like it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>where's the personality, where's the show womanship? Yeah? Yes, what's

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<v Speaker 1>anchoring all of this together other than like like lovely

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<v Speaker 1>pop music? And it's the same problem. She just writes

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<v Speaker 1>too many songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did prolific. Well did you see those videos

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<v Speaker 2>of her performing in New York last week where she

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<v Speaker 2>like cut the train of her dress off on stage

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<v Speaker 2>and then it got rained out and so she did

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<v Speaker 2>a show I think at Le Puissan Rouge after and

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<v Speaker 2>like people seem to be living that's cool. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that I would go see her in concert, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather just listen to the songs Kiki. I much

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<v Speaker 2>more enjoyed when Charlene and the folks over at Casa

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<v Speaker 2>Dieva used to do carly Fest. That was to me

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<v Speaker 2>the best way to see quote unque Carli rad Jebson live,

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<v Speaker 2>which is Charlene through drag well Yes, through Charlene well

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<v Speaker 2>Y and on a lot of acid. The carly Fest

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<v Speaker 2>was probably during her Emotion era, which was the best.

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<v Speaker 2>It was emotion and like the Emotion B side.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like she writes such lovely pop songs, but

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<v Speaker 1>she just I just think she writes too many. And

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<v Speaker 1>at this point we have an A side and a

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<v Speaker 1>B site to every single album, and I do feel

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<v Speaker 1>like at least a third of them, if not more,

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<v Speaker 1>could just never exist in no really remember when Yes

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<v Speaker 1>spend time honing the songs that do work really really well,

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<v Speaker 1>the songs that say something. Because with her, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>her in concert two or three times, and she has

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<v Speaker 1>a great show and she's a lovely vocalist, but she

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing anchoring the performance together. She just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like runs around on stage and is cute and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe a little damn she diva.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not a diva diva, she's a Betty Who. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say that. That's kind of rude to Carly, No,

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<v Speaker 2>that is, and also rude to Betty who she she fulfilled. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with who. But speaking of B sides, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw a movie yesterday that is basically like a B

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<v Speaker 2>side of Dracula.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh wait, you kind of mentioned this to me

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I saw this movie called The Last Voyage of

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<v Speaker 2>the Demeter, and it is based on this part in

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<v Speaker 2>the novel Dracula bram Stoker's Dracula, where Dracula is coming

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<v Speaker 2>over to London from Transylvania on board this ship named

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<v Speaker 2>to the Demeter, named the Demeter, and in the book, well,

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of Dracula is an epistolatory novel and

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<v Speaker 2>it's told through letters and journals and stuff. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>so this part of the novel is the captain's log

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<v Speaker 2>on the ship talking about how there's weird stuff going

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<v Speaker 2>on board and then the crew members are dying and

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. So this movie is about that and

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<v Speaker 2>uses those captain's logs as the framework of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like this small part of the Dracula story

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<v Speaker 2>that we've never really seen in any of the adaptations before.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was good. I think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually good. They say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't scary at all, Like they this Dracula is very monstrous,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's sort of, you know, different adaptations of Dracula

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<v Speaker 2>play around with like how much of a monster he

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<v Speaker 2>is versus how much of a man he is and

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<v Speaker 2>like something like you know, Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula kind

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<v Speaker 2>of does both, and in this one it's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>he's we're catching him at the in between state when

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<v Speaker 2>he's like kind of getting ready to pose as a

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<v Speaker 2>human again and like be the more seductive Dracula that

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of know as a culture. But he's basically

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<v Speaker 2>like a like a sort of no Swaratu vibe, like

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<v Speaker 2>bat creature on this ship, picking the sailors off one

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<v Speaker 2>by one, and you just see too much of him

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<v Speaker 2>for it to be effectively scary. There was only one

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<v Speaker 2>moment in the movie where I sort of was like, huh,

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the theater with two other people. We

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<v Speaker 2>were the only ones seeing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, what theater was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Regal Essex. Okay, and yeah, I mean it was a

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<v Speaker 2>good time. I think if you like Dracula, if you

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<v Speaker 2>like spooky movies, you would enjoy It's a good sort

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, slow entree into spooky season. And funnily enough,

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<v Speaker 2>this time last year we had another sort of off

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<v Speaker 2>brand Dracula movie, which was The Invitation, which was a

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<v Speaker 2>more romantic vampire movie that ended up weirdly being a

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<v Speaker 2>dract movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you like that better? I?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, probably, Okay, I need to rewatch it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Demeter is it? Demeter is like the goddess of spring.

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<v Speaker 2>Demeter, Demeter is mother. She is the goddess of Spring

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<v Speaker 2>and the harvest.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that have a thematic link nor? Not really? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Second question, do you have like a favorite adaptation of Dracula?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the Well, it's either Guy. It's either the

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<v Speaker 2>Buffy episode Buffy Versus Dracula, or but no, it's Francis

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<v Speaker 2>Ford Coppola is Dracula. It is Guy. What's his name?

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Oldman, Gary Oldman, Gary Oldman. It's the most the guy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's the most romantic telling of Dracula. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so lurid and outrageous, and it plays very fast and

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<v Speaker 2>loose with the Dracula mythology. It's so visually arresting. I

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<v Speaker 2>only saw it for the first time a couple years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but now it's one of my things that I have

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<v Speaker 2>to watch every Spooky season. Maybe I'll host like a

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<v Speaker 2>Dracula Night at my house soon and watch it. As

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<v Speaker 2>you were saying, I was thinking to myself, time for

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<v Speaker 2>a Dracula episode, Like I think we did a vampire

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<v Speaker 2>did a vampire episode, but maybe specifically Dracula.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I mean, according to your TikTok algorithm, Spooky

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<v Speaker 1>Season is coming out Spookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Season, even though it's literally it's absolutely already here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you saw a second movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So the other movie I saw was Passages, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a new sort of sexy gay film about a

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<v Speaker 2>gay couple. One of them is Ben Wishaw, who was

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<v Speaker 2>cute in the the Daniel Craig Bond movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, this is the iris Ax movie I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're this gay couple. One of them is an

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<v Speaker 2>artist of some kind, the other one is a director.

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<v Speaker 2>And the director meets this woman on one of his films,

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<v Speaker 2>fucks her because they have an open relationship, and then

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<v Speaker 2>falls in love with her and basically like destroys, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like ruins his whole life to be with her.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's like funny and like they're like

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<v Speaker 2>going back and forth, and I didn't like it. I

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<v Speaker 2>also was in the midst of a mental breakdown when

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it, so I don't know. I still think

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have liked it had that not been true.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was very sexy. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the sort of tricks the director tried to

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<v Speaker 2>use to you know, frame the movie and make it

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<v Speaker 2>visually interesting, I did not really appreciate. Like there was

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<v Speaker 2>one scene where the couple's talking to each other and

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<v Speaker 2>like one of them his backs to the camera and

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<v Speaker 2>his body is covering the other ones, so you can't

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<v Speaker 2>see either of their faces, and they're having this very

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<v Speaker 2>intense conversation, and like I get what they were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do with that, but then like the dialogue is

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<v Speaker 2>not written well to justify not being able to see

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<v Speaker 2>their faces, and I just thought that was bad. And

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<v Speaker 2>the sex scenes were not very sexy, even though like

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<v Speaker 2>they're all very pretty attractive, and I didn't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was funny, but everyone else seemed to, so I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was just so, that was a that was a

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<v Speaker 2>me thing. So yeah, you know, I might go see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, will it be streaming somewhere eventually?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably soon because it's it's a movie movie, so it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be streaming immediate. It'll be streaming very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, I have some very very

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<v Speaker 1>sad news as I've been making budget cuts.

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<v Speaker 2>No, don't say it, frand.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I did discontinue my AMC stubs for warning? No, friend,

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<v Speaker 1>I am sorry to call. I'm sorry. It's like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>bucks a month and there are no good movies coming

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<v Speaker 1>out for the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I just can't well, there might be no movies

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<v Speaker 2>coming out for the rest of the year, because that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm trying, That's what I'm saying. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why would I pay for this? Like I saw Barbie

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<v Speaker 1>and I will see Barbie one more time before my

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<v Speaker 1>membership goes out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really sad. I'm not going to see Oppenheimer period.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay. I don't think you would like it. I

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<v Speaker 2>almost saw it again this weekend, but it's just three

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<v Speaker 2>hours is very very long. Yeah, I wonder when we're

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<v Speaker 2>just going to run out of movies. But you know

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<v Speaker 2>what we're not going to run out of is takes.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about whatever our main episode is about,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not sure which which episode this will.

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<v Speaker 1>Far it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So this week, this past week, I was

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<v Speaker 2>in the grips of a truly horrifying, depressive episode. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing a little better now, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the eyes closed like gripping like yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the things I share that to say

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<v Speaker 2>that one of the ways that I coped with that

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<v Speaker 2>was looking for things in my life that were comforting,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was very lucky to have friends that were

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<v Speaker 2>thinking the same thing. So last week, when I was

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<v Speaker 2>just totally like in the eye of a tornado, bottoming out,

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<v Speaker 2>bottoming out, like truly bottoming out, like in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the in the worst way, Fran invited me

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<v Speaker 2>over to her house and took very lovely care of me,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the things she suggested was that we

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<v Speaker 2>watch a couple episodes of Buffy because she knows it's

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite TV show and it was such a good

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<v Speaker 2>tool to get me outside of myself a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and like remind myself that there are things my life

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<v Speaker 2>that I love and also like get to share them

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<v Speaker 2>with someone, And so I continued the premise of this show. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I continued to do that throughout the week. I also

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<v Speaker 2>watched Twister starring Helen Hunt, which is another like very

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<v Speaker 2>comforting movie from my child.

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<v Speaker 1>One of your favorites. I've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other night I watched Garden State, which

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<v Speaker 2>is one of one of my favorite movies, and I

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<v Speaker 2>find it so soothing and comforting. It's like a warm hug.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean that's we're talking about comfort watches today. This.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is something that is really being

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<v Speaker 2>talked about in culture over the past couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>like and definitely in the age of streaming Netflix post

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<v Speaker 2>years and years now. Yes, because you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people want to just watch the same things over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again. I'm not really that type of person.

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<v Speaker 2>I have things that I return to annually, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a big When it's spooky season, I watch these movies.

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<v Speaker 2>I watch these episodes of my favorite TV shows. When

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<v Speaker 2>it's the second it's November, I am watching the first

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half seasons of Gilmore Girls, and then

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<v Speaker 2>moving on. That's but I don't really do like and

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<v Speaker 2>always on comfort watch. Same, but there are moments when

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<v Speaker 2>it is very necessary when the white noise of a

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<v Speaker 2>TV show or a movie that you know so well

0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:03.240
<v Speaker 2>and love so much episode just like wraps around you

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<v Speaker 2>like a blanket and lulls you to sleep, or like

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<v Speaker 2>a slanket.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you have a slanket somewhere to feel with your farts?

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's my Salama Hiah compression. Thirty Rock is definitely

0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a comfort watch. I think when Rose and I were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thinking about the topic of this episode, you know, I,

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<v Speaker 1>like Rose, also don't really have like an always on

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<v Speaker 1>show that I will just watch whenever I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to watch. I have like a few kind of

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, But for the most part, you and

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<v Speaker 1>I can definitely identify ones that are on the macro level,

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<v Speaker 1>something that everybody returns to, which are like Friends, the Office,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty Rock. Those are things that people will just there's

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<v Speaker 1>billions of minutes that have been streamed of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Side that, yes that the writers, well I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>pre I mean the sitcom writers. Maybe I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the writers are not getting residuals for that

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<v Speaker 1>is my point. But I am not like a friend's girly.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really an off fisk curly. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>be a thirty rock curly and therefore an arrested development, really,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I would have those shows quote unquote always

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<v Speaker 1>on in the boom of streaming in college.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that with Parks and Rec.

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<v Speaker 1>Parks and Rec is also another one of those comfort watches.

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<v Speaker 1>But personally so you mentioned Buffy, you also mentioned a

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<v Speaker 1>few films. For me. My comfort watches are like Freaks

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<v Speaker 1>and Geeks. Currently it's Malcolm the Middle, which now I've

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<v Speaker 1>watched seven seasons in you know, a few weeks. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that fucking show.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I've never watched it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't know if you'll I mean, you would

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<v Speaker 1>like No, I wouldn't, but I would so violent. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really violent.

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<v Speaker 2>Malcolm in the Middle, Yes, No, but it has kids

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<v Speaker 2>in it. No, but the.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids are played by adults. Ah, well, maybe maybe we'll

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>we'll do a little another comfort watch trade zuse moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>But Deep is also one of the the next time

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<v Speaker 1>you're depressed, which will be like you know, in two

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<v Speaker 1>days probably Veep is also I think a comfort watch

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of people. That is another one where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, if I don't know what to watch, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>watch that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I I did realize, Like the closest thing I

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<v Speaker 2>have to and always on comfort watch is Sex and

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the City. I'm basically always watching Sex and the City.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not I'm not really ever doing like a

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<v Speaker 2>full beginning to end watch through because at any at

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 2>any no, no, no, it's more just that at any

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:32.399
<v Speaker 2>given moment, I'm like, let me watch that run of

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 2>episodes in season Let like, let me watch Carrie's Affair

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:41.119
<v Speaker 2>with Big, Let me watch you know, Carrie and Aiden

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:44.400
<v Speaker 2>part two. Let me watch Carrie and Petrowski.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me watch that string of episodes where they do

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of problematic things like four episodes.

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Or like I'm gonna watch when Samantha was a lesbian,

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:53.800
<v Speaker 2>or I'm going to watch a couple of random episodes

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 2>from last season one.

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Sex and the City is it for me as well?

0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Sex and the City. It's just it's if I don't

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 2>know what to watch, you better believe I'm turning on.

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Sex and the City. One that is I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>write that down, but that is an always on watch

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:13.120
<v Speaker 1>for me. Yeah, there's something about comfort shows that I think,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, it has a kind of numbing quality

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<v Speaker 1>or kind of like I need to shut my brain

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<v Speaker 1>off and fall asleep kind of quality. But that's not

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>necessarily am that's not reflective of like the quality of

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the thing we're watching. It's reflective of the number of

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<v Speaker 1>times we've watched it, which is like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>a commendment, you know. That's like, I think something that's

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<v Speaker 1>really effective, even about something like Friends, which we've talked

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 1>about before with Tommy Dorfman, Like even that show, a

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>show that feels so excruciatingly normal and basic and overdone,

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 1>still has a lasting, rewatchable power that most shows don't have,

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 1>and so we have to give it to them. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Like, So Buffy is like one

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<v Speaker 1>of your like kind of comfort watches. Do you do

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<v Speaker 1>you have like a memory of to like returning to

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<v Speaker 1>one of these things at a time where you really

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<v Speaker 1>needed it. I mean you kind of started it off

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<v Speaker 1>with that. I feel like personally, in terms of movies,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like Moonstruck or Catstone Dance or Hercules.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the.

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<v Speaker 1>Three, the Holy Trinity and I have Moonstruck has found

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>me at my darkest times, like I will. I have

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>purchased it on Amazon or whatever the fuck, so I

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 1>can watch it whenever I need. And I will watch

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that movie or Catstone Dance whenever I'm like I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 1>down and I don't know what to do with my life.

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<v Speaker 1>The power of film.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the power of film. Yeah, I there definitely are

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>movies that like, there are some movies that I love

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 2>that if I'm too sad, I don't want to watch

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:50.639
<v Speaker 2>them because I don't want them to be sort of

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:54.440
<v Speaker 2>tinged by that sadness. Like there are some comforting things

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 2>that I only want, like when I'm in a good mood,

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Like Marie Antoinette is one of my favorite movies, But

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I never want to watch it if I'm feeling too

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 2>down because I don't want that to like ruin the experience.

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.719
<v Speaker 2>I only want to watch that when I'm sort of

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 2>like lazy but feeling good and or like sort of

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 2>like feeling on wee but in a sort of like melancholy,

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 2>like lovely.

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Like nostalgic way. Yeah, yeah, I think that there, it

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 1>is nostalgic. I think comfort watches are at the end

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>of the day nostalgic. You don't. Comfort watches can't exist

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>out of like a contemporary cannon. They have to come

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>from like five or ten or fifteen years ago. Yeah,

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>are there Do you have a comfort watch that like

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I really don't know about because I you know, I

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Malkoe in the middle, but like, is there something

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>where it's like I would totally I mean, Buffy honestly

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>was one of them. Yeah, you kind of inducted me.

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:50.639
<v Speaker 2>What did you think of the Buffy episodes that we watched? So,

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 2>so we watched Halloween from season two, which I usually

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 2>only watch in October, but since Spooky season has started

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 2>so early this year, it felt appropriate, and I also

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 2>thought it was good for you to see like an

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 2>episode that is was almost like cartoonish in its distilling

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 2>of the essence of what Buffy as a TV show

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 2>was during the high school years, specifically like very Monster

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.360
<v Speaker 2>of the Week, everyone is sort of giving like the

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 2>most like caricature version of themselves. And then we also

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 2>watched on the other hand, we watched one of the

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 2>best episodes of the show and one of the one

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 2>of the most artful episodes, which was Hush from four amazing.

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Are you gag?

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I was gag? Can you describe that episode? Okay?

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 2>So Hush is an episode of Buffy. It takes place

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>during season four when Buffy is in college, in which

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 2>a group of demons come to town. Really scary, really scary,

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 2>really well done, come to town. They're definitely gay, and

0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 2>they steal everyone's voices so that because hearing a human

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 2>voice will kill them. And while everyone is voiceless, they

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>go around at night and cut people's hearts out, and

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 2>they need seven hearts and they need to take seven,

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and they might take yours. I know the whole rhyme

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 2>by heart.

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I was gagged. That was an extremely artful episode of TV.

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>And honestly, I could have watched Buffy with you all day.

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I love that though, so happy truly, And

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I will be honest and say, like, if you weren't

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.120
<v Speaker 1>sitting there, the experience of watching it is not really

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the same, which is kind of why our show exists, right,

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Like things are enriched by way of your ability to

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 1>see them through someone else's eyes, especially in a time

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:38.719
<v Speaker 1>of need or a time of ward, Like this is

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>exactly what we both want to watch right now.

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Niss, you know. What I noticed was that you are

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 2>a very on your phone at all times person when

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>when TV is on. But when we were watching Hush,

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>you were glued to the screen. I think away, Well,

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I think part of it is that because no one

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 2>was talking, you like had to pay attention too. But

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 2>you seemed very engrossed in the episode.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I was, I really was, And I also just wanted

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to give it devoted attention because I haven't really consumed Buffy.

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, honestly if I like lied in our

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>episode with Evan Ruskatz, but I think I said I

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>watched the whole first season. I didn't. I knew it

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>was I watched, like I think I told you before

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the record, but I lied on Mike, But I definitely

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>did not watch the whole first season, like I still

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>have thought. And you are not a kind of season

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>one Stan, You're you're you think.

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 2>No, it's kind of something that you have to get

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 2>through to the good stuff.

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you need the anchor of what is developed

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>in season one to enjoy some of the payoffs when

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you maybe feel it really finds its groove in season two.

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there are some iconic moments in season one,

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>but it is more foundational than anything. Very similar to

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 2>another comfort watch that we've talked about, Parks and Rec.

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Because the first season of Parks and Rec is bad,

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 2>and they very clearly it's not funny. They very clearly

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 2>just had it. I figured out what the tone of

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 2>the show was yet, and they really figured it out

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>in season two, and then I think, especially in season three,

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 2>once they ditched that guy who Anne dated at the beginning,

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 2>that straight guy. I haven't. I used to watch Parks

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>and rec All the time, and I never watch it anymore.

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Actually I did watch it recently when I was home

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and it was on TV. I mean, that's another very

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>specific kind of comfort watch, is just on if you're

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 2>at your parents' house and you're watching their cable on

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 2>a huge TV, and it's like, oh, six episodes of

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Parks and Recreation are on right now, or oh when

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 2>when I was home this most recent time, my mom

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and I had gotten home from dinner and were laying

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:54.959
<v Speaker 2>in bed and Golden Girls was on. Gold We watched

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 2>like four episodes of Golden Girls. I think that honestly,

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>after our Golden Girls episode, it definitely became a comfort

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 2>watch for me. I think it also for you, Like

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 2>we talked a lot about the actual feeling of watching

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that show and how it just immediately feels comforting or nostalgic,

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 2>as if you've already watched every episode, even though I hadn't.

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Girls it is a comfort watch for me. But Girls

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>is one where I'm still at the stage where I'm like,

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't watch isolated episodes of it. I have only

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 2>now watched it through a couple times in them in

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 2>a couple of recent years. There are a few episodes

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 2>that I can pick out, like the beach House episode.

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Rewatch the episode where they do coke, you know, like

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>those are fun to watch like with people like on vacation.

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that can be very comforting, sort of in

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>the same way that that Sex and the City can.

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I am almost done with my Malcolm in the Middle

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>rewatch a show that I have like seen every episode

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>zillions of time, and I'm trying to think of what

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to rewatch next because I am going to

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>binge something since I am I have to stay off

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>my foot and at home.

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I really think with fall coming up, you should watch

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Gilmore Girls because you haven't.

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I could watch that without you, though,

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I would need you to doula the experience.

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I think you need to just

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you need to just jump in.

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, the other ones on my docket were Wanda Vision,

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>which I have never rewatched. I also was thinking about

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>rewatching Breaking Bad.

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 2>No Babe, but no, no, no, no, no, you're you're

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 2>you're you're an radial No no sorry.

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, you're right, and then I will yeah no,

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And then now I'm considering rewatching Girls. That's actually sounds

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>really enticing to me. I've never watched it a second

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>time all the way through, but uh, look, I I

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>love I think that there's something I'm about comfort watches

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>where at a certain point you've watched so many hours

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>of this show or of this movie, where the characters

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>their belief systems, they're like desires, what they go through

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>is like in your bloodstream, and so when you're watching this,

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you understand the stakes more than the average viewer because

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, I'm so in this. I felt like

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>that when I was rewatching Malcolm in the Middle, because

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, it's a show about

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the widest possible suburban family. You know, that's like dysfunctional

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>sitcom hijinks like teenage like you know, hood lamentous and

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's so average, and yet I became emotional

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:46.479
<v Speaker 1>and reactive and like so invested in what are really

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>really you know, nondescript characters and plotlines because I've watched

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>it seventeen times and I understand innately they're the character's

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>desires more because.

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Of that, well, I think that these these comfort watches

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 2>almost become like fairy tales or like bedtime stories. You know,

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like these these like tropy, well trodden, well worn

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 2>fables that we know by heart, but we still want

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 2>to hear again and again.

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Wait, have you ever watched maccol in the Middle? Never? Never, Never? Never?

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I will make you watch it.

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't know.

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's something about it, about its violence

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>and about Lois the mom that really appeal to you,

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>because it's so absurdist and extreme, like the characters, and

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the characters are all like godless heathens and beholden to

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>their like supreme id, like they just make decisions based

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>on what they want in exactly that moment, instead of

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>thinking about the ramifications or whether it affects anybody else,

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's so fun to watch. I love watching characters

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>that just like fuck up over and over and over

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>again and never get what they want.

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean saying, that's why I love Sex and the City.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, no, yeah, exactly, yeah yeah, and that's why

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I hate and just like that and just like that

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>will never be a comfort watch. No, even though you

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>haven't you rewatched the first I.

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Rewatched the first season in the lead up to season two,

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 2>but it was in no way comforting. It actually was discomforting.

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 2>We do, yeah, really discomforting. I mean they're obviously, you know,

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 2>seasonal comfort watches, like I was saying, like the things

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 2>that I have to watch every Halloween, every Thanksgiving. Like

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about this before the way, I think that

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Coyote Ugly is a Thanksgiving movie and I watch it

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 2>every year on Thanksgiving along with Blair Waldorf Must Pie,

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 2>which I think is the superior Gossip Girl Thanksgiving episode.

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I know everyone loves the one with what You Say song,

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>but I think Blair Waldorf Must Pie.

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Outsold Blair Waldorf Must Pie.

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 2>In the summer, I love watching Mamma Mia Okay because

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 2>it just amazing.

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a summer movie.

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:35.760
<v Speaker 2>It is. It is a summer movie.

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>What are my seasonal watches?

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Are you like a Charlie Brown girl? Were you ever?

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever do that? I did? I mean I

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 2>grew a great pumpkin.

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Brown grew up Christian and therefore, yeah, we watched

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>all of those every We watch all the Charlie Brown movies,

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>like every year for Christmas and Thanksgiving, and I think

0:36:56.760 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 1>there's an Easter one and there's I don't know, but

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>not so much anymore.

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any do you have any comforting things

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 2>that are like disturbing but like you find them comforting.

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing an answer from you in there somewhere. That's

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think Malcolm in the Middle is sometimes

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>very disturbing, Like sometimes the actual plot of Malcolm in

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>the Middle is like what the fuck? But that is

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>just like I think in a late nineties early hots

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>sitcom thing like honestly, actually with a lot of comfort

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 1>watches early aughtsness is a cultural thing that all of

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 1>these are beholden to. We're in. It's just like you

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 1>see through or you have to just like not see

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that's like problematic or weird or doesn't make

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 1>sense in like twenty twenty three or like whatever, because

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>that's just the time. But also it's just like those

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>shows are operating on a whole different plane of reality.

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Like if if we launched Sex, and if we launched

0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Not Second, if we launch like Malcolm in the Middle

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>today in twenty twenty three, people would be like what,

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like it wouldn't make esthetic

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 1>sense in conversation with the rest of things right now.

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think what I'm getting out, honestly is like

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I miss sitcoms. I miss situational irony sitcoms where it's

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>like truly slapstick, all physical comedy and all of like

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 1>the plot rounding out to this like perfect resolution where

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>like the thing that was not supposed to happen happened,

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's exactly you know, stopping the character from getting

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 1>the thing, you know what I mean.

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why they're perfect as a comfort watch, because

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 2>that's why sitcoms are great and why they exist in

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>syndication is because you can just tune in for half

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 2>an hour and the entire storyline will be resolved within

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.399
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes and you don't really have to know much

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>going into it, and you don't really have to think

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 2>about much coming out of it, right, Okay, wait, so

0:38:56.480 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 2>what's your disturbing humfort watch? I well, you know, I

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 2>like horror, so there are some scary movies that I

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>do find very comforting. I rewatched The Ring recently. That

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 2>was one that I used to watch a lot as

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:14.439
<v Speaker 2>a teenager. And what I've only watched that once. It's

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 2>so good, we should maybe do a Ring episode for Halloween.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I have since so uh, I experienced some trauma like

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 2>seven years ago, and in the aftermath, my friend and

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I watched the Sweeney Todd movie with Johnny Depp, So

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I like, weirdly find that. I mean, I love I

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 2>find Sweeney Todd comforting in general, and it's like, you know,

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 2>obviously very dark, but like that movie specifically is very

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 2>soothing to me because it was at that time. You know,

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.760
<v Speaker 2>what's really soothing to me that is reminiscent of Sweeney

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Todd is things.

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>That are anchored by little I sticking it to the man,

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>like unlikely hero circumnavigating all the things to get to

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>where they are, usually in some sort of kind of

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>revenge plotline. I think are very satisfying, which is why

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I loves me. You taught oh revenge, Revenge. We were

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 1>talking about this last night.

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Kill Bill. Yes, I watched it this week. Big comfort

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 2>movie for me, and it's so bloody.

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll watch kill Bill.

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Two with you. Let's do that this week. Yeah, let's

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it right now, Let's.

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Do it because. Oh and maybe we should do a

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 2>kill Bill episode.

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would love virgins.

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Let us know if you want that, I said.

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>To you on the phone yesterday. I feel like I

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>need to do some sort of actual crystal clear hierarchy.

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.359
<v Speaker 1>But I do feel like kill Bill one and two

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>is in my favorite films of all time top ten lists.

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I do think we should maybe on Instagram or maybe

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 2>this could be a Patreon thing release or release ju job.

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 2>We should we should put out like our top ten

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 2>movies TV show Lisa.

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that'll be a Patriotics pat exclusive. Okay, okay, yeah,

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>we should do that. I love lists.

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, what about comfort books?

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you? Oh?

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:18.919
<v Speaker 2>Are you a big rereader?

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Not anymore, but I have read the Wizard of Oz

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>many times throughout my childhood and teenage years, Like the

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>original Frank album Wizard of Oz.

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.439
<v Speaker 2>I was like that with the movie The Wizard of Oz.

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I actually just watched it recently.

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>What about you.

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, i'vey read every Harry Potter books so many times. Oh,

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that, and I used to be a

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 2>big rereader. I've re read American Gods by Neil Gaiman,

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 2>which is one of my favorite books many times. Actually

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 2>most of his books. I've reread, American Gods, the entirety

0:41:55.080 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 2>of Sandman Never Wear Like. Those are kind of the

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 2>three that I've reread a lot. And American Gods. Have

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 2>actually listened to the audiobook twice.

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 1>It was it was a book.

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I used to read it once a year and it

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 2>was like very ritualistic and I always got something new

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 2>from it every time I read it.

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Didn't they make a TV show or something?

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 2>It kind of I only watched the first season. I've

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 2>heard that it fell off as American Gods is about

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 2>the sort of pantheon of gods from a bunch of

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 2>different cultures and religions who are falling out of power

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 2>because new gods of sort of technology and industrialization have

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 2>risen up and there is a war between them over

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:51.839
<v Speaker 2>sort of the energy and attention of humans and there's

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 2>this ex Khan who is caught in the middle of

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 2>this battle. That sounds amazing, it's incredible, it's you know,

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 2>it's there's a reason why I read it so many times.

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's a it's an actual book. It's not a

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>graphic novel. No.

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Sandman is a graphic novel and is like similar. It's

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like was Sandman was came before American Gods, and

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 2>you can see Neil Gaiman working up to a lot

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff that he explored in American Gods through Sandman.

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 2>H Oh, what about comfort music? What? What's the album?

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 2>What are the albums that you listen to when you

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>need like a good cry, or you need to feel

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.720
<v Speaker 2>good or like to feel in your body or whatever.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh, tegn in Sarah, maybe teaken in Sarah. I have

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>a seasonal comfort music listen, which is the album Metals

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>by Feist, which is so love. Metals is so good

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's singed in my brain in memory association with

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 1>like the most probably one of my darkest depressive episodes

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and periods in college when it came out, and it's

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 1>so imbued with a lot of that Actually around this

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>around the same time, you'd be like that year. The

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 1>year before Kanye West, my Beautiful Dark Twist Fantasy also

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 1>came out. That was something that I have like core

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>memory association with, Like if any song from that album played,

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I would be shot back in time to exactly where

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I was when it came out, in the emotional state

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I was in. I like music that makes me feel

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>like that, But I feel like no, in terms of

0:44:55.480 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>like things that I'll actually really revisit these days, I

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know, do you? What would your answer be?

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Mine are like horses by Patti Smith in Rainbows,

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 2>the Radiohead album, the Into the Woods Broadway revival recording

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 2>with Vanessa Williams.

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a that is a very you answer.

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 2>And the Garden State soundtrack. Oh, and the Marie Antoinette soundtrack,

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 2>which I am dying to own on vinyl, but it's

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 2>so rare that I can only find it for like

0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 2>five hundred dollars on eBay.

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy because it used to be stocked down at

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:38.879
<v Speaker 1>the Urban Outfitters coffee table.

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Like, it's so hard to find out, and I have

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 2>come so close to just going for it a couple

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 2>of times, but it's really hard to justify spending that

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 2>much on a record, but it is like my favorite

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 2>soundtrack of all time.

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now, okay, I'm I'm. I opened a playlist on

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 1>my phone that has like kind of my personal list

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>of like no skip albums, of which Metals is on there.

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 1>In terms of like music that shoots me back to

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 1>a certain period in time, it's definitely Frank Ocean's Channel Orange,

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 1>my first boyfriend in Chicago, my first job living in

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 1>the city alone, like I have every time any song

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>from that album clicks on, That's where I'm sent. Casey

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Musgrave's Golden Hour a very specific period of my life.

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:32.320
<v Speaker 1>The Miseducation of Lauren Hill, I think feels like nostalgia,

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>feels like this warmth is something that I could flip

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 1>on at any moment and I will feel home or

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>comforted or like good in the music. But yeah, no,

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.359
<v Speaker 1>those I think like I have like a kind of

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 1>it is about memory. It's it's literally only about memory.

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>You Know. What's a kind of recent one that is

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:02.319
<v Speaker 1>now definitely ingrained in my mind for ever is Fetch

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the Bolt Cutters.

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh so good, but it's also so triggering early COVID.

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's exactly where it sends me.

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, what about comfort food? What are your comfort food?

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I love that. My comfort foods are a rotisserie

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>chicken sandwich with cheddar, cheese, avocado, and lime on a

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>two dollars bagette which used to be a one dollar bagette.

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>But pious are crazy these days, Am I right? Ladies? Yeah?

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 1>And I would say a burrito, but there's there are

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 1>no good burritos in New York. There's the fruit fly again.

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>She's coming back for the comfort food conversation.

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Current comfort food is our blood?

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I yah know, I definitely. I don't know that.

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:44.279
<v Speaker 1>That's the first thing came to mind.

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 2>What about you McDonald's two cheeseburger meal and a four

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 2>piece chicken nugget? Uh, spaghetti and meatballs okay? Uh low

0:47:57.680 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 2>maine and an egg roll?

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Loa, maee, that's a really good one.

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 2>My mom's mac and cheese from when I was a

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 2>kid that was baked in the oven with ground beef

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:11.879
<v Speaker 2>in it and breadcrumbs on top.

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Any Thanksgiving food? Oh yeah, I love Thanksgiving.

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean stuffing. I love stuffing, string being castrole,

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 2>very comforting.

0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Sweet potato like no colonialism, but like Thanksgiving food yea.

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, for me, I think comforting food. Comfort food is

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 2>like all savory, like I love sweets, but I am

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:36.319
<v Speaker 2>more of a savory person. And yeah, like a like

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 2>a starchy savory food is the most comforting.

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I need starch, I need bread, I need glucose. Sorry, glucose, goddess.

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't find cheese very comforting. I love cheese.

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I love cheese, but it's comfort and liking something wait

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 2>are different.

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Things, duh. In actuality, since I was a kid, one

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of my number one foods, if not the number one

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:05.279
<v Speaker 1>comfort food that I will eat for dinner all the time,

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:09.880
<v Speaker 1>is like an extravagant cheese board. I will put together

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 1>multiple cheeses, meats like fresh fruit, like dried fruits, like nuts,

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 1>three different kinds of crackers for myself and eat it

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 1>for dinner.

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Girl dinner, see girl dinner. See. For me, comfort food

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 2>has to be something that someone else made for me

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 2>or I purchased, so it can't. The only exception is

0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:34.320
<v Speaker 2>a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. There are some nights

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 2>when I'm feeling some type of way and all I

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 2>want to eat is just a peanut, butter and jelly sandwich.

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I will eat it standing up in my kitchen and

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 2>it will just take me back to this like childhood

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 2>place where everything is simple and safe and I don't

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.280
<v Speaker 2>cut the crust off, and it has to be grape

0:49:56.360 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>jelly okay, and it has to be whole we bread.

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I also am and creamy peanut butter. I'm also like

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 2>a whole weet bread purists. I'm also creamy peanut butter purist.

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 2>I did not grow up on grape jelly. We were

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 2>in apricot and strawberry family. We were big on preserves.

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.719
<v Speaker 2>A PBNJ is also something where it's just like if

0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 2>it hits, if that's my craving, if that's what's in

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 2>the fridge. It's so satisfying and I personally, please, this

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:27.400
<v Speaker 2>is a safe space. I know to say this, I

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 2>must dunk it in milk. I must dunk Yeah, no,

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I get the milk. I don't not the dunking so much,

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 2>but but having a glass of milk to go with it, yes, nice.

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 2>What to you is the most comforting place in the world.

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 2>It could be like a city, It could be like

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:48.360
<v Speaker 2>a piece of furniture. It could be like a location

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:51.839
<v Speaker 2>like where is where do you feel the most like

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 2>swaddled by comfort.

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm sure a lot of people's answers

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 1>is like my mom's couch and like blah blah blah,

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's like that's just not my tar like home,

0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:08.800
<v Speaker 1>like Chicago home does not bring me comfort in any way. Sorry, parents,

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>they already know this, but I will say, because it's

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:16.879
<v Speaker 1>the only thing I can think of, a vacation share

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 1>on Fire Island, and that's only like this is only

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 1>our second annual time doing it, but that will be

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I think true for me through my adulthood, is like

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I will always want like a beach house vacation share

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of my friends, and honestly, it doesn't

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:33.880
<v Speaker 1>have to be Fire Island, but I think it is

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Fire Island because we're doing this every year now.

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, forever forever. But I think mine is kind of

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:46.200
<v Speaker 2>a Mine is probably my grandparents country club, the buffet there.

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 2>That's good. That's good, and then also my mom's bed, okay,

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:56.319
<v Speaker 2>but then also the backseat of a car that's full

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:58.760
<v Speaker 2>of people I love, Like it doesn't matter what car

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 2>like where we're going, but that is very comforting.

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<v Speaker 1>M that's very Teamovie. That's very freaking geeks.

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<v Speaker 2>let's start with Red White and Royal Blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with So I.

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<v Speaker 2>Read this, you know, during like peak COVID in LA,

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<v Speaker 2>because I had heard it was basically fan fiction if

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<v Speaker 2>it was a novel, and I'd heard people be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's definitely Harry Potter fan fiction with the names changed,

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<v Speaker 2>or like, it's definitely this fan fiction with the name change.

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<v Speaker 2>What it actually is the girls seem to have concluded,

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<v Speaker 2>is it is Andrew Garfield, Jesse whatever, social network, Jesse

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<v Speaker 2>Eisenberg social network, real person fan fiction. No, because Casey

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<v Speaker 2>mcquinston was apparently very involved in that fandom on Tumblr,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that is the that is the lore. That is.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that it also like doesn't there's nothing. As

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<v Speaker 1>someone who read the book and watched the movie, I

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<v Speaker 1>see zero connection really other than the fact there that

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<v Speaker 1>they're like two guys. Yeah, anyway, but that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>So I liked the book a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot, and you prostlytized it to your two best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I made you read it. I made Ryan read it.

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<v Speaker 2>One of you I won't say who found it very

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<v Speaker 2>sexually excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I also thought, oh I just gave it away. I

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<v Speaker 1>also found it very sexy. I thought the sex scenes

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<v Speaker 1>were written so well, even though they were eclipsey ya,

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<v Speaker 1>they were still good eclipsey y A sex scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. And then you know Casey mcquinston's second novel, One

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<v Speaker 2>Last Stop, I did not like. I didn't read their

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<v Speaker 2>young adult book.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't read Sarah Wheeler.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not read Sarah Wheeler. And then the news

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<v Speaker 2>of this movie came out and I was. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was great, because you know, there is absolutely right

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<v Speaker 2>now a cottage industry of big screen romance novel adaptations,

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<v Speaker 2>because we are in this huge boom of romance novels

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to TikTok, thanks to e readers, thanks to book

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<v Speaker 2>Tube and books to gram. You know, romance thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>Rose Codpiece Reppers. Romance rules right now in the book world,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what everyone wants. And that's why when you, like,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months ago, I went to the Barnes

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<v Speaker 2>and Noble in the town where I grew up, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have totally reorganized the store, and like the pride

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<v Speaker 2>of place is the romance section. You know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the Colleen Hoover of it all and like that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of shit. So I was not surprised that this movie

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<v Speaker 2>was going to get made. I was, I guess, not

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<v Speaker 2>surprised when it was gonna be an Amazon movie.

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<v Speaker 1>When you read it, it's like a movie. It's cinematic,

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<v Speaker 1>very cinematic, reads like a movie. It was destined to

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<v Speaker 1>be a film. I'm I was, yeah, so excited, still

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<v Speaker 1>was excited.

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<v Speaker 2>And so so Fran and I actually saw a very

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<v Speaker 2>early screening of the movie back in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Brol May a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago, a while ago, so it it's been a while

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<v Speaker 2>for Frans since we saw it. I did watch it

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<v Speaker 2>again last night because we've been we've been embargoed. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched it again last night because A I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>see it again, like I had just planned on watching

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<v Speaker 2>it again anyway, and also I wanted to see if

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<v Speaker 2>anything had changed from our first viewing of it, which

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if i'd be allowed to say

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<v Speaker 2>if anything had changed, but nothing really did, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, they were like placeholders.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I just wanted to kind of refresh my

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<v Speaker 2>memory for this conversation. So top line from when we

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<v Speaker 2>saw the movie a couple months ago. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>both liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I walked out of it. Let me tell you, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's be real, Rose. We walked out of this

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<v Speaker 1>theater and I had a lot of thoughts and I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of, without really getting much of your take,

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<v Speaker 1>like outside in the middle of midtown, just started like

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<v Speaker 1>rattling them all off to you. Yeah, and you were like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that deep. And then you kind of pushed

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<v Speaker 1>me a little back about some things that I was

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that were maybe negative, and just like also being like,

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<v Speaker 1>what what about this? Why wasn't this this and this

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<v Speaker 1>and this? And I felt like a lot of what

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually feeling was a supremely fan based attachment

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<v Speaker 1>to the text of the book and how good that

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 1>book felt, and me expecting the film to not. I'm not,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not one of those girls that needs

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<v Speaker 1>like a very accurate book adaptation, but I do need

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<v Speaker 1>the movie to feel as good as the book. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to come out of the theater feeling some of

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<v Speaker 1>the same things, which I know is not a very

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<v Speaker 1>realistic expectation.

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<v Speaker 2>The book is both comforting and exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Sexy and cute. Yeah, comfort ance is so many different things.

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<v Speaker 2>I think comforting because it relies on so many well

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:20.840
<v Speaker 2>trodden tropes that we love, because it feels like fan

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<v Speaker 2>fiction of something, like there's something about it that feels familiar,

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:28.160
<v Speaker 2>and yet it is a very exciting love story. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a love story that feels like what would have

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<v Speaker 2>been about straight people ten years ago, and it's about

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<v Speaker 2>queer people and that's great. Like there's a very diverse

0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:41.440
<v Speaker 2>cast of characters. It like the stuff that happens in

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<v Speaker 2>it is kind of thrilling, like seeing a storyline about

0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:49.200
<v Speaker 2>like public outing about famous queer people. It's interesting. Top line.

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<v Speaker 2>I really liked it, Yeah, but I do have problems

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<v Speaker 2>with it, and a lot of those problems are about

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<v Speaker 2>Those problems kind of fall into two categories. They're about

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<v Speaker 2>either the things that were changed or just completely cut

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<v Speaker 2>from adapting the novel. And then they're about the quality

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<v Speaker 2>of the movie, not really about the performances so much

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<v Speaker 2>or the writing. Really it's more technical than that.

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<v Speaker 1>And top line, for me, it was kind of some

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<v Speaker 1>it was some of the reverse, Like I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I walked out of it being like I don't love

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<v Speaker 1>how a lot of the writing was adapted. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the right jokes were picked, I don't know

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:40.600
<v Speaker 1>if the tone was totally nailed, And I also took

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<v Speaker 1>issue with some of the acting. But I all in

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<v Speaker 1>all was like, this movie delivers what it promises, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have to accept it for what it is, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very determinedly in what I would refer to as

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<v Speaker 1>a love Simon genre of media.