1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Show Me the Money, Jerry McGuire became a film all 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: about an Arizona Cardinal. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: I remember walking in on my visit and thinking like, Oh, 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: this really is the SEC, Oh this really is the 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: locker room. 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 3: Like I had no idea. 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 4: They literally had an ex mark on the field and 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 4: they just kept bringing more and more. 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 3: Guys out there. 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 4: Give me another take, another take, another take. 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 5: We didn't know that it was going to become what 12 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 5: it ultimately became. 13 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: I think it did put us on the map and 14 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: certainly made our logo and our brand more recognizable throughout 15 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: the world. 16 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 6: And after its worldwide release. Jerry McGuire, who never made 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 6: a Cardinals roster because that's not the name of a player, 18 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 6: a coach or even an executive. It's a movie featuring 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 6: global superstars who won an oscar and a Golden Globe, 20 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 6: with movie quotes that still live to this day. 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: Show me the. 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 7: Money, show me the money, show me the money. I'll 23 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 7: just shot at how that phrase show me the money 24 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 7: just took. 25 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Off film that I think has so many one liners. 26 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: You know, show me the money and help me, help you, 27 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: and you know all the different things that came out 28 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: of that. 29 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: You complete me you had me at Hello. 30 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 6: Hello, and Welcome to Cardinals Folk Tales Cards Go Hollywood, 31 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 6: presented by Seek, Where we go in depth into Cardinals history, 32 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 6: all time anecdotes through the recollections and memories of those 33 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 6: who lived or in my case, those who covered it. 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 6: My name is Paul KELVC Cardinals Sideline reporter. And the 35 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 6: year was nineteen ninety five. Filming had started on what 36 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 6: would become a Hollywood blockbuster starring Tom Cruise, Cuba Gooding, Junior, 37 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 6: and the Arizona Cardinals. 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: I had to reenact. It was just it was too easy. 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 5: It was kind of leaked to be able to go 40 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 5: watch where I go to work every day on the 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 5: big screen. 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: I remember a few times actually standing there, like Cuba 43 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: good Or. 44 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 6: In December of nineteen ninety six, theaters debuted a romantic comedy, 45 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 6: a drama, and a feel good sports film all in one, written, produced, 46 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 6: and directed by Cameron Crowe. Jerry McGuire was inspired by 47 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 6: sports agent Lee Steinberg and his then client, Cardinal safety 48 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 6: Tim McDonald as they navigated NFL free agency. Here's McDonald. 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 6: I'm being contacted by Crowe in nineteen ninety three. 50 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 7: My agent at the time wanted me to go to 51 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 7: the owner's meeting back in Palm Springs to meet some 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 7: of the owners, get familiar with the whole free agency process, 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 7: and just so happened, and got a call from Cameron 54 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 7: Crowe who was writing the film Jary McGuire, and he 55 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 7: said he wanted to follow me around for a couple 56 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 7: of days and kind of go through the whole free 57 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 7: agency experience. And that's kind of where it all started 58 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 7: at right there, Paul Springs and I had Cameron crow. 59 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: Following me around a little bit, and we were able to. 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 7: Talk about that whole process, and on behold, the movie 61 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 7: popped up. 62 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: Out of it. 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 6: But what about a movie set? Well, what about the 64 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 6: latest greatest team facility in the NFL? 65 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: The movie Jerry maguire really resulted on somebody at the 66 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: Arizona Office for Tourism thinking ahead, doing a little research, 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: calling up my father, and my dad giving him. 68 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 6: A tour That's Michael Bidwell, current Cardinals owner, but at 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 6: the time he was working as an assistant US attorney 70 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 6: in downtown Phoenix and he would meet his father, then 71 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 6: Cardinals owner, Bill Bidwell, for regular lunches. 72 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: At one of those lunches, he shares with me that 73 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Cameron Crowe is in town and he's with the Arizona 74 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Office of Film, so they knew that he was coming 75 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: out with this movie about an NFL football player who 76 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: was supposed to be a Philadelphia Eagle, and they decided, Hey, 77 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: what about the Cardinals training facility? Called my father and asked, 78 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: can we bring Cameron Crow down to see this training 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: facility because at the time it was the most modern 80 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: training facility in the National Football League. 81 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 6: And let's just say the director and decision maker was 82 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 6: more than impressed. 83 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: So Crow gets here, he's blown away by it, and 84 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: apparently right there decided this player wasn't going to be 85 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: an Eagle, he was going to be a Cardinal. 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 6: The film had a fifty million dollar budget, but it 87 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 6: did not have a home field a primary location to shoot. Yet. 88 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: They just wanted the training facility for a period of 89 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: weeks and agreed to put up all the paper on 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: the windows so nobody could look out. He told everybody, 91 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: shaves clothes, We're putting paper on the window, the whole thing, 92 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: and no visitors because they knew that Tom Cruise was 93 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: going to be here and be in it. 94 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 6: Hey, Tom Cruise, well, it turns out he was a 95 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 6: one to two punch of a listers along with a 96 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 6: young Cuba Gooding Junior. 97 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 7: I remember at the time my favorite movie was Boys 98 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 7: in the Hood, and I remember being crazy about Cooba Goody. 99 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 7: That's my guy, and I was shocked he was the character. 100 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 7: Sure enough, he became show Me the Money guy. You know, 101 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 7: he became that guy in the Cardinal uniform. 102 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 6: Tim McDonald is talking about Cuba Gooding Junior's character Rod Tidwell, 103 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 6: But the me in Show Me the Money is actually McDonald. 104 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 6: Based on his free agency in nineteen ninety three and 105 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 6: talking with four teams, the Cardinals, Bucks, Eagles, and the 106 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 6: team he eventually signed with, the Niners. 107 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 7: I remember being a little frustrated and you know, having 108 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 7: to go through all this process and want to get 109 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 7: it over real quick. 110 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 3: And I remember talking to my agent and telling him, hey, 111 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: you know, let's kind of get this this thing done. 112 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 7: At some point in time, someone needs to show me 113 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 7: some money. And that's how that phrase was born. The 114 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 7: kind of turned it into what he turned it into, 115 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 7: show me. 116 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: The money, Show me the money, show me the money. 117 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: Congratulations, it's still my agent. 118 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: Those of us who have been free agents do want 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: to see the money, and you know, going from team 120 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 4: to team and not getting off of the contract that 121 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: you think is legit as something that's commonplace. 122 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 6: That's former Cardinal Rob Moore, who was a star NFL 123 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 6: receiver at the time, and the player the Rod Tidwell 124 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 6: character was loosely based on, right down to both wearing 125 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 6: number eighty five. 126 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 4: Really just you know, trying to school them up on 127 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 4: how to carry himself as a as a as a 128 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: wide receiver, as a professional football player, stance, start, you know, 129 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: all those kinds of things that you know, just the 130 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 4: basics that you need to know to even pull something 131 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: like that off. 132 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 8: I think the storyline is more meaningful to me that 133 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 8: it's Rob more, you know, and it's cooler playing Rob. 134 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 8: And there a couple of weeks ago later, you see 135 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 8: a GQ magazine and Cooper and Robb is like next 136 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 8: to each other and they look almost identical and a 137 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 8: lot of mannerism. 138 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 6: But it certainly wasn't all magazine covers. 139 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 9: To start, on the very first day of shooting, Cuba 140 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 9: Gooding went down with a knee injury. 141 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 6: That's longtime Cardinals trainer John Omahundra. 142 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 9: At first It was really painful for him, and some 143 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 9: of that can be attributed to the fear of shutting 144 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 9: down the production and you know, envisioning surgery and doing 145 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 9: all that sort of thing. He felt a lot better 146 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 9: after being seen by the physician and getting some X rays. 147 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 9: We called in our X ray guy and he took 148 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 9: the films. Basically had a first degree sprain and I 149 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 9: believe it of the mcl well. 150 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 6: With Cuba Gooding's sideline, what's the old saying the show 151 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 6: must go on? And Rob Moore couldn't believe the lengths 152 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 6: to which they went enter stunt doubles. 153 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: They literally had an X mark on the field, had 154 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: some linebacker or defenders, and then they had offensive players. 155 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: Offensive players are running to the X catching the ball 156 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: and the defenders were trying to hit them as. 157 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: Hard as they could. So I'm standing at watching. 158 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 4: It, and I mean, these guys are getting team off 159 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: on and I'm just sitting there like, these guys better 160 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: be getting paid a lot of money, because I much 161 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: seen two or three guys get concussed, and they just 162 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: kept bringing. 163 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: More and more guys out there. 164 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: Give me another take, another take, another take, and I 165 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: was that was impressive. 166 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 6: And let's just say that actual Cardinal players at the 167 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 6: time would not be performing their own stunts, because no, 168 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 6: the team would never go for that. But if you 169 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 6: wanted screen time and a cameo, they had. 170 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 5: A tent set up outside. Some of the guys were 171 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 5: invited to come up and be extras. I chose not 172 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 5: to do that, but I saw a bunch of the 173 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 5: stuff around, but try not to be distracted by that 174 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 5: as much as I possibly could. 175 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 6: And as the temperatures rose during an Arizona summer, so 176 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 6: did the degree of difficulty in shooting scenes with snow. 177 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell, many of the scenes that were in Philadelphia 178 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: at the Old VET were not at the VET. They 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: built a fake green wall out here on our field 180 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: number one, put in fake snow, and they had all 181 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: the players and heavy jackets, and they're filming it here 182 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: in Arizona. And what Dad tells me is that, you know, 183 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: they were dropping like flies out there. These guys just 184 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: wanted to shoot their scenes and get out of these 185 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: jackets because it was so hot. 186 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 8: One day, we came out of the practice field and 187 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 8: they had this little scene up on practice Field one, 188 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 8: on the left side. 189 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 3: Of the field. 190 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 8: They had this board that was shaped like snow, but 191 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 8: it was like this big old white board in the back, 192 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 8: and they had this white foam on the ground, and 193 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 8: then they had this, you know, like just stuff that 194 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 8: looked like it was Philadelphia Eagle signs in the back. 195 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 8: And that to me, I thought, you know that you 196 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 8: look props on the backside. 197 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 6: Former Cardinals receiver Frank Sanders. And while most of the 198 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 6: filming was done during downtimes at the Cards facility, there 199 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 6: were a few okay where the sports locker room met 200 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 6: the Hollywood green room. 201 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 8: So we're coming in and at this window time, I'm 202 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 8: fitting in my locker room and I'm walking back toward 203 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 8: the toward the restroom area, shower area, hot tub area, 204 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 8: and I could see that, you know, Tom's in there, 205 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 8: and I know with him baseb on his hair and stout. 206 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 8: He looked over and said, hey, but that you know, 207 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 8: he just kind of washed his hand and he turned out, 208 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 8: turned them went the other way out, And it's like 209 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 8: seeing a shooting star you wish upon and then you 210 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 8: just don't get that wish. That's kind of what it 211 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 8: felt like to me watching him come in and then 212 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 8: go out the other way. 213 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 6: Other Parts of Jeremyguire were filmed around Arizona, including the 214 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 6: Cardinals home field sun Double Stadium, in particular Monday night 215 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 6: football Christmas nineteen ninety five. TV and movie cameras were 216 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 6: there that night, although it left some fans seen double. 217 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 6: Here's longtime Cardinals producer Jim al Mahundra. 218 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 10: Look and I see Rob Moore in the North Tunnel 219 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 10: and on the way to the locker room. He keeps 220 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 10: going in and out of the tunnel with a whole 221 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 10: bunch of cameras around him, waving to fans, high fiving. 222 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 10: Then he goes back down, then he comes back out, 223 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 10: goes back down, and he comes back out. I'm like, 224 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 10: what in the world is Rob Moore doing in the 225 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 10: tunnel while the rest of the guys are on the 226 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 10: field warming up. Then I look over at the wide 227 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 10: receivers and there's eighty five more on the field. And 228 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 10: I am thoroughly confused at this point, and I look 229 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 10: at my binoculars and I look toward the North Tunnel again. 230 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 10: I look closer and it says tidwell on the back 231 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 10: of the jersey. And at this point we had no 232 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 10: clue that they were filming a movie, and I'm like, 233 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 10: what on earth. 234 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 6: Is going on here? Yeah, it turns out several scenes 235 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 6: from that game were included in the final cut of 236 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 6: the film, and Rob Moore says that's what separates it 237 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 6: from many other sports movies. 238 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: We've seen some of the other movies in the past 239 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 4: that you know that you watch and you're like, yes, 240 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: is not that realistic? You know, I thought they did 241 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 4: a great job of of of trying to uh project 242 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 4: real football moments into that movie. 243 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: That that were relatable. 244 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 5: You know, I'm happy to that I was there to 245 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 5: be kind of somewhat of a representative. I think I 246 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 5: have a clip in the movie that's pretty famous, and 247 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 5: you know, I'm proud of that. People actually come up 248 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 5: to me from time to time and say, hey, I 249 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 5: saw gain't jeered maguire, So you know, that's kind of cool. Still, 250 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 5: wait on much check. 251 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 6: That's Learry centers And it's not like the Big Red 252 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 6: made big money at least not to hear the players telling. 253 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 6: Although Tim McDonald did get a few. 254 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: Checks, there were some residual checks. 255 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 7: They started out like you know, you can see a 256 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 7: check for four hundred and something bucks for the first 257 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 7: maybe three times in a year, then it went down 258 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 7: to two hundred bucks, then it went down to twenty bucks, 259 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 7: and then they started coming in in nineteen cents and 260 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 7: over the time, and you know you're getting checks from 261 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 7: a penny. And the problem is when I found my taxes, 262 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 7: if I moved, I had to chase down those W 263 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 7: two's actually came from the SAG and I I was 264 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 7: having trouble with my taxes because they did and send 265 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 7: them to me, and I had to go find out, hey, 266 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 7: where where is this these things located for tax purposes? 267 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 6: Taxes now, that's real world. And while some parts of 268 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 6: Jeremy Maguire were definitely realistic, other scenes not so much. 269 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 6: Especially Rod Tidwell celebrating. Let's just say in a real game, 270 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 6: it would be more than excessive celebration. You'd be flagged 271 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 6: up and find. 272 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 5: Up Tidwell was interacting with the crowd a whole lot 273 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 5: more than than it's practical in real life. 274 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: You had never seen me out there doing you know, 275 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: cartwheels and backspins and things like that after a touchdown. 276 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: So quite sure they took some liberties and regards to. 277 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 6: At again, that's Rob Moore preceded by Larry centers. And 278 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 6: speaking of these two, when a teammate as a Hollywood 279 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 6: movie character loosely based on his likeness, that guy is 280 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 6: gonna take some grief, right, Larry. 281 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: I've actually thought about that before. Rob, hey man, can 282 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 5: you make plays like like tid Well? You know, hey Man, 283 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 5: we need you so No, we gave him a hard 284 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 5: time about it. We used to call them Tidwell a 285 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: little good. 286 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 6: You know. 287 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 4: My players want to talk about it all the time. 288 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 6: You know. 289 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: I had. You know Michael. 290 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 4: Krabchie, He's always walk into the meetroom and say show 291 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 4: me the money. 292 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: You know. 293 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: That was that was his That was his introduction to 294 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 4: the meeting for the day. So I've heard that, I 295 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: don't know five hundred times. 296 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 6: In that phrase, show me the money. It's been heard 297 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 6: on a loop since what nineteen ninety six to the 298 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 6: present day, and to this day, the guy who inspired 299 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 6: the phrase is still mystified. Tim McDonald, what's behind the 300 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 6: staying power? 301 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: I have no idea. I guess it's it's a catchy phrase. Now. 302 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: My words exactly wasn't show me the money. 303 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 7: It would show me some money, and it kind of 304 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 7: turned into show me the money, which you know, I 305 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 7: don't know how much of a difference there is, but 306 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 7: it did stick for a while, and I got excited 307 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 7: about it when it first happened. As time passed, I 308 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 7: thought it would fade away and then the next new 309 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 7: stand would come on. But stuck around for a while, 310 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 7: and people still use it, you know. I still hear 311 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 7: people saying and I kind of smile. My wife hears 312 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 7: it every now and then and she's like, there, show 313 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 7: me the money. 314 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 6: Yep, there's showed me the money the catchphrase, and then 315 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 6: there's show me the set. All the questions that longtime 316 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 6: trainer John Omahundro would get every year from the new players. 317 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 9: Some of the players that had seen the movie would 318 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 9: ask about how big was Tom Cruise or Kuba Gooding 319 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 9: a good guy? You know, they were just naturally curious 320 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 9: about it. There's some that had really paid attention to 321 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 9: it and. 322 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: Watched it and had questions, show me the money. Congratulations 323 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: Still my agent. 324 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 6: That Spirtu and Barry former Cardinals Pro Bowl pass rusher 325 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 6: b Train saw the movie while a star college player 326 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 6: at Notre Dame. 327 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: The funny thing about it was that was my junior 328 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: year in college ninety six, Like I was actually about 329 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: to go into that whole situation, and in my mind, 330 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: I'm kind of. 331 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: Like, wow, is it really like that? Like is that 332 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: how it is? 333 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: It goes down because you know that was gonna be 334 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: me in like six months. 335 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 6: Okay. Now fast forward to two thousand and four and 336 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 6: for Bertrand, Barry life imitates art as he is now 337 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 6: a highly sought after free agent and Bertrand takes a 338 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 6: tour of cards HQ. 339 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: I remember thinking, wow, this is exactly the movie set, 340 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: like they didn't change anything, like this was exactly the 341 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: complex as it was at the lockers, the bathroom. I 342 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: mean I remember a few times actually standing there like 343 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: Cboru and you know, that's just one of those where 344 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: I had to I had to reenact it. It was 345 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: just it was too easy, all. 346 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 6: Right, Bertrand, Hang on, which scene are we talking about? 347 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 6: Do tell? Or maybe we shouldn't ask? 348 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: You know that that's when he's button naked, right and 349 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: you know he's like, uh that that helped me help you? 350 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: And he's like, you know, no contract, I help you, 351 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: help me help you? 352 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: Okay? All right? 353 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: You know, and and uh, of course I'd have to 354 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: be you know, undressed to do that. So you know, 355 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: we we're not gonna go there today. This is a 356 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: family program. 357 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 7: You can't beat Tom Cruise and can't beat Coober Goodie 358 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 7: at that time. 359 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: So I thought he did a good job. 360 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 7: Thought Cameron did a great job of putting all those 361 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 7: pieces together. 362 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: The story was a really good story, and it was 363 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: about fighting through adversity and relationships and everything else. 364 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 7: I think the plot was pretty good. You know, I 365 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 7: had seen some you know, sports movies before that. You know, 366 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 7: I was never really interested in sports movies because they 367 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 7: ended up kind of me and dull. But I I thought, 368 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 7: you know, getting getting guys like Tom Crue than all 369 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 7: the athletes that they got and Kuba Gooding really you know, 370 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 7: set the stage for it to be one of the 371 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 7: better sports movies out there. 372 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: And I think they achieved that goal. 373 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 6: Once again. That's former card safety Tim McDonald and Cardinals 374 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 6: owner Michael Bidwell, and they're not wrong. Jerry maguire got 375 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 6: an Oscar nomination for Best Picture, Cuba Gooding Junior won 376 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 6: the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor, and Tom Cruise won 377 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 6: the Golden Globe for Best Actor. Even today, though questions 378 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 6: remained why the Arizona Cardinals well be sure to add 379 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 6: the name of late owner mister B to the credits. 380 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: Pat trade to popular belief, he was all for doing 381 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: innovative things and fun things. He loved the idea of it, 382 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: and so it was a terrific experience and to be 383 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: able to be a part of that was exciting. 384 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 6: And what about former receiver Rob Moore number eighty five 385 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 6: in real life? Well, when you bring up Jerry McGuire, 386 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 6: he thinks of the Hollywood version of himself and the 387 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 6: man who brought that character to life. 388 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: I think a Cuban Gooding junior. That's what I think. 389 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 4: You know, In the time that I got to spend 390 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 4: with him, I got a lot of undoe adulation for 391 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: really doing nothing and just being a part of a movie. 392 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 6: Of course, it was a top ten grossing film of 393 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 6: nineteen ninety six, earning over two hundred and seventy million 394 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 6: dollars worldwide on its fifty million dollar budget, and it 395 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 6: was also a win for the Arizona Cardinals, who've kept 396 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 6: the door open on a sequel. 397 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: We do it again, Heartbeat. If they ever do a 398 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: Jerry maguire Part two, we'll be there to sign up, 399 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: and we'll make sure We'll have a bigger preview party 400 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: this time around, because now that we've done it once, 401 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: we'll do it again. 402 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 6: Figure And there you have that moment in history when 403 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 6: the Cardinals took a walk on the big red carpet 404 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 6: for Jerry Maguire. And what happens when you see your 405 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 6: team on the silver screen. That's Cardinals' Folktales, The Cards 406 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 6: Go Hollywood, presented by Seake for producer Jim Almhudro. I'm 407 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 6: Paul Calvic. Remember you can't spell history without the words story, 408 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 6: and we hope you add your popcorn ready for this one.