1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: What's happened when you put Angela yee, I'm here with 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: my girls, Selena Hill and out of con let goal. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: This here, welcome. Finally, you know what I'm saying. You 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: got to stop ducking us. 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: Like that. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 4: I supposed to be I was supposed to be here. 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 4: I couldn't make it. 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: But finally at the right time, listen, Yes, this is 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: the right time for sure. And you know, been following 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: you since you know you first came out and even 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: that Tiny Desk, I think that was a huge, amazing love. 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 4: That was a moment for me as well. I really 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 4: loved being on that show performing. 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to know what songs you're going to do. 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you knew what you were going 16 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: to start with. 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, yeah, I mean we planned the planned 18 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: the session for Tiny because yeah, that's that's a platform 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 4: I've been dying to be on, like for a long time, 20 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 4: you know, And when it finally happened, it was a 21 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: great moment for me. 22 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: I feel like, just from the outside looking in, you 23 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: have a great life, you know what, Yes. 24 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: I do. I'm blessed. I've said it too many times. 25 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: I've said I've never seen a greater miracle than myself. 26 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: Wow. 27 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I'm blessed. 28 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: That's right, because you know, sometimes we don't know what 29 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: people have going on, but I feel it from you, 30 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: like just from where you are in life and like. 31 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: Where you started. It has to feel like, dang, I 32 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: did some great things. 33 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: And yeah, and we joke about it at home and 34 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 4: say this love at home. It's yeah, I'm blessed. 35 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: You got a new house this year too, right, Yeah, 36 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: talk to me about that because you know I love talking. 37 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: Really. 38 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 4: I mean, it's been it's been a long time coming 39 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 4: because we think they else, they should have been ready, 40 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: like for a long time ago, but COVID happened and 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: couldn't finish it. But eventually it's done. I have, I have, 42 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: We have the house up now and it's on the 43 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: streets named after me. 44 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: So oh wow, yeah houses on the street there at 45 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: the street, Wow, your own street. 46 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 4: Listen. Until now, I think I don't forgot, you know. 47 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: But then it's it's such a great feeling to know 48 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: that it's the city that raised me, you know, has 49 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 4: a street in my name is so much. I don't 50 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 4: think there's anything getting used to that. 51 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: No, there's not like what's your address if. 52 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: You wanted to now. 53 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: So the album is Fuji that's out right now, and 54 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: so I didn't even know about Fuji music. 55 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: Can you break that down? 56 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 4: This is why I made the album. Yeah, So Fuji 57 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: is one of the oldest nanurine sounds. You know, from 58 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: this genre that started like in the nineteen sixties by 59 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: a man called Securd Barrista. He's late now he's the 60 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: Oji is mistro of this sound, beautiful sound called Fuji. 61 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: So Fuji came from a sound that's called weary. Warri 62 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 4: is a devotional This Muslim used to sing it during Ramadan. 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: So it's like I think maybe every morning or I 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: don't know exact time, so that people come around and 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 4: most I think, the more kids in the band. So 66 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: it's like everybody people just coming out. It's not even 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a band. It's just people coming around, 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 4: sitting together and drumming and singing. So it's highly spiritual, 69 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: is very it's very spiritual. Their praying the song, so 70 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: Fuji came from that. So this man used to sing 71 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: Weary when he was a child, so he I guess 72 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: when it was time for him to, you know, start 73 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: his music Carreer. He wanted to do something incredible, and 74 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: that's what gave birth to Fuji. So he took his 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 4: sound from Weary and then called his own genre Fuji. 76 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: Fuji came from the world, I mean, according to stories, 77 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: came from the word faiji, and faiji in Yoroba it 78 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: means enjoyment, okay. So Fuji is so he took what 79 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 4: was very spiritual, very sole, and very slow in temple 80 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: because they sing, it's very spiritual and then they sing 81 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: and then drum. But so he sped it up and 82 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 4: added more drums. Fuji is highly percussive. They play guitar, 83 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: they play horns, They interpolate a lot, you know, and 84 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: it's the sing about love politics they make. Once you 85 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: hear any FOODI sound, it's just at least you're so 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 4: immediately want to dance. 87 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: No, that's really deep. So what made you? 88 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: What inspired you to name your album after something that's 89 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: so heavy, that holds so much weight and has so much. 90 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: History because I grew up on it. It's that I'm 91 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: from Legos and FOODI is the soundtrack of Legos. That's 92 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: that's one that's one sound that can never go away, 93 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: it's it's at parties, is on the streets, they played 94 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: at any gathering is so Yeah, I grew up. I 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 4: grew up on it. Like even if you didn't you 96 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 4: didn't want to like it, you didn't have a choice. 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 4: It was right my anti play. Yeah, I'm blessed to 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: I've listened to a lot of classic sounds, you know, 99 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: growing up from Nigeria, because before Afro Beats, they've been 100 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: there's been incredible. Yeah, there's yeah, there's high life, there's juju, 101 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: there's afro juju. There's weird in this Fuji right there's 102 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: a lot of them that can't move right now, right now. 103 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 4: But you know, I grew up on all of this sounds. 104 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: But the kids today like say, twelve year old, no Fuji, 105 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: because I just think about kids here today, how they 106 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: may not know some of the artists like that we 107 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: grew up kid growing up right now, legos be like, 108 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: yeah we listened to Fuji. 109 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: No, Okay, No, I'm not. I'm not sure that's that's 110 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: the thing for them because obviously they're more they're e 111 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: supposed to know our sounds now. And that's the reason 112 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: I made this album, preserving this album for the future 113 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 4: and for people that may never get to hear about 114 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 4: an incredible sound that is Fuji. And that's why I 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 4: call this album so you. 116 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: Bring in that history to the modern day, but no 117 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: part of you because I think that's yeah, because I 118 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: grew up on it. 119 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: You are, I listened to the core of my voice 120 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 4: is Fuji. Anything I sing is in Fuji. Is. I 121 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: just sound like it because that's what I grew up 122 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: listening to. And I know it like the back of 123 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 4: my hand, you know. But I'm like people when people 124 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 4: might never get to hear about this incredible sound, right, 125 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: you know, and huge child to all these legends. They've 126 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: taken it around the world, you know when when they 127 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 4: were touring, they were touring for the Five Cities playing this, 128 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: playing festivals, playing Fuji. But that's in that's a long 129 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 4: time ago. A lot of people need to know about 130 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: this incredible sound from Nigeria. Aphrobis to the world is 131 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 4: really good, but please deep dive into all the sounds 132 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 4: where it came. 133 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: From, understanding the legacy and history. That doesn't come with 134 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: like a layer of pressure, like when you're naming your 135 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: album something like Fuji. You don't feel like folks like 136 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: it's just like the ogis, they're not listening a little 137 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: more intensely to see like did he really master for me? 138 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: Like did he really capture it? 139 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean there was no pressure whatsoever, to 140 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 4: be honest, because, like I said this. 141 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: I know it and it's a it's an acronymy. 142 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: It's also an acronym though, by the way, which is 143 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: finding uncharted journeys inside. So when I was making this album, 144 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: I decided it was time to start doing all the 145 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: things that gave me like joy, you know that that 146 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: I was excited doing in the past. You know, because 147 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: the only thing I've done for the past twenty years, 148 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: like consecutively as the music, Like I need to do. 149 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: The things, you know, I want to What else do 150 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: you like? 151 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: So I designed? I designed. I mean that's one thing 152 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: or another thing I've been doing alongside the music, has 153 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: been designing. So all my album arts, showflyers, I designed, my. 154 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: Design. 155 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I design everything. So I decided, you know what, 156 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: I want to start doing all the things. So I 157 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: decided to do my design to my designs. 158 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: Oh I like that you did those glasses? 159 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, So everything that I like, cool things that I 160 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: like I started to design them. Okay, so this is 161 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 4: my design, this ring. 162 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fires and then my earring. Always talk about 163 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: your earrings too, and that's how you capitalize off. 164 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 4: This is my design, one of two that I have 165 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: right now, right, you know, and the old brand is 166 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 4: called tough Man. So I love to design. I just 167 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: you know, I think it's time to start doing other things, 168 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: so designing. I've been reading a lot, you know. That's 169 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: one thing I told myself, I said, I wish I 170 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: found books earlier. 171 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: Exactly like listen, I read that Game Changer, and you're 172 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: right about that. I'm so glad you said that, because 173 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: I feel like part of why I know a little 174 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: bit about everything is because I read so much, and 175 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: I love reading like biographies and autobiographies, and I honestly 176 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: think I just. 177 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: Like doing that. Now I'm like, wait, it's time to 178 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: start learning about other people as well. Yeah, you know 179 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 4: how people people have done the things that you're going 180 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: through right now. Some people have. 181 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: Believed that, Like it's so fascinating. 182 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: I always feel like real life because we you know, 183 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: watch TV shows about fictional things, but I feel like 184 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: real life is so much more fascinating than any like 185 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: fictional story everything, because even if you know, I love 186 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: horror movies, but a lot of those are based on 187 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: real stories. Like when I watch The Country, that's a 188 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: two story Texas Chainsaw massacre. That's a true story. Like 189 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: all of The Exorcist that's a true story. Like those 190 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: things really happen. 191 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. So one of my favorite thing to do now 192 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: is go back in time to see, like the world 193 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 4: is really old, you know, and things events have happened, 194 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: They've come and gone and life has just continued, and 195 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: like I need to know what's happened before, right, like 196 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 4: just being so, I've been watching a lot of documentaries, 197 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: like great movies that have missed out on as a child, 198 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 4: you know, like you won't believe that I just watched 199 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: Showshank Redemption. 200 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I could believe that. 201 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 4: You know, Like it's just I watched I'm calling on 202 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 4: and I my way. I've been missing out a lot, 203 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: a lot of things. I need to go back to 204 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: when people made quality work. 205 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: You know, where did you film the down currently our 206 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: music video? I got to ask you that so much 207 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: like a you know. 208 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: It's so I showed you the Palace at our place. 209 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 4: My name is said already and because of course used 210 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 4: to be king of Legos in eighteen hundreds, so that's heritage. 211 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 4: Yeah so they're real name. You're in press if you 212 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 4: want to say that. But yeah, so it's we have 213 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: a palace right now in Legos. It's called Erico. In Arico, 214 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: Eerco is where you collect the produce of the farm 215 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: the markets. That's so. So the king called doubled as 216 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 4: achieved as well. 217 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: Hm. 218 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 4: So we have a palace there and that's why I 219 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: showed it so amazing. Yeah, I've been going to the 220 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: palast and that's another thing that really helped me make 221 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: this album because I felt like I went back to 222 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 4: the parlas to understand you know, who am I? Like? 223 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: Why am I? Who I am? You know? Why do 224 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: I have? Why do I do the things that I do? 225 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: I love how you refuse history, heritage and even what 226 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: you're learning now. It sounds like, so how does that 227 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: affect Like you're a creative genius, Like you're taking in 228 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: so much information and then how do you insert that. 229 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 4: There's so much blessing to It's so much blessing to 230 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 4: have to have like knowledge, honestly, to just I know 231 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 4: for other people, people do things and vibes and that's fine. 232 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: But me, everything I've done has been has some depth. 233 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 4: You know. There's a reason for every every album, every song, 234 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 4: every decision I've made, you know, and this one. My 235 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: dad used to be very spoke about the pride of 236 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: being so much that as a child, I kind of 237 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: took that from him, but I didn't really understand why 238 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: why it was about that life. You see, we'll say 239 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: things like I can't do that, and I'm like, like, 240 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: I don't get it. But now I understand, now, you 241 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 4: because I went, Yeah, because I went to the Palace 242 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, and the way I was received, I 243 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: learned the story about the man, you know, understanding like 244 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 4: why he was the way he was, you know, understanding 245 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 4: that he was the first person to even fight the 246 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 4: British colony when they came to try to colonize you know, Legos, Nigeria, 247 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: and it went they sent him to excel and even 248 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 4: gain more popularity, you know, and learned that's a great yeah, 249 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 4: you know, learned about it. 250 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: People try to act like our history. 251 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: Is not Oh no, my history is so rich. 252 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's good to know that it gives you 253 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: a certain part. And it's great because you said your 254 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: father was instilling this in you, but you didn't. 255 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: Even realize that. 256 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: I didn't get it. 257 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: And sometimes kids don't get it until they get older 258 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: and they go out and they learn it for themselves. 259 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: And I know you said your father raised your Muslim, 260 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: but you still went. 261 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: To church and he allowed us to go to church 262 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: as well. 263 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: Talk to me about that, because that's unusual. 264 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 4: With My dad was very very liberal. Is he believed 265 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: in religion as also a form of education. He always 266 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: said it said because it was it was a it 267 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: was a teacher, and he also taught teachers, so he 268 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 4: had he wrote books on education and everything. So I 269 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 4: learned that from him. He used to say that that's 270 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 4: not like you learn. You learn as mostly me. I 271 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: don't think he didn't think that you shouldn't be interested 272 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: in understanding the Bible because there's also history, there's there's 273 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: a lot of things you can learn from that. So 274 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: I think that's why he allowed us go to church 275 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 4: as well. And when I got went to church, I 276 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: joined the teams choir. You know, so my life kind 277 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 4: of really started, like the music part of me. 278 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: So you wanted to go to church though, because some 279 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: kids are. 280 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 4: Like I don't even think. I don't even remember if 281 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: I wanted to, but I know that we were allowed. Yeah, 282 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 4: because my auntie will come home teachers songs that she 283 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 4: learned in a choir, in in the choir, So I 284 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 4: think I got fascinated by that, like, oh, it'd be 285 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 4: nice to go to the church too and learn, you know, 286 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: to sing. 287 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: So that's when you got your start singing in the choir. 288 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: Wow, did you say that? Would you say? 289 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: That's still like influences the music. 290 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's why I'm the greatest show man. Learn performing. 291 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: Choir boys, they don't they grow up. 292 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: Because when you're on the old you're putting on the show, 293 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: it's yeah, and you see it. 294 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: On people's faces if you're not doing it. 295 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's I feel like, that's it. That's it. 296 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: That's the best start for artists. 297 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: Honestly, you know what I want to ask you, this 298 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: was this purposeful of like and I know, like early 299 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: on when you were doing the photoshops with the pictures, 300 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: was that something that you knew this is gonna lead 301 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: to more or just something you were just doing for fun? 302 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 4: So I did the first one I did for fun 303 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: because it was just like I was. I've been finding 304 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: Savage a long term. 305 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: That was so funny. You were Savage. I've never seeing that, 306 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: like what is it? 307 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: And I saw a picture of it, like it would 308 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: be cool to take a picture with us some day. 309 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: I was just randomly saying saying that to myself. Then 310 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 4: I thought, oh way, I actually can be in a 311 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: picture with her right now. So then I took the picture. 312 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: I posed as though I was holding I from behind. 313 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: You know, I told my friend to capture me. He 314 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: was looking at me like what are you doing. He 315 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: didn't get it until I sent the picture to photo show. 316 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: I mean I opened the app because I was working 317 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: as an editor in the company called jimmor then, so 318 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: I already knew how to use for the shop. So 319 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: I just did the manipulation and it looked good. I 320 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: posted it and I saw people's reactions. People that never 321 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: commented on my page. I was nobody. Nobody knew me. 322 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: I had I think maybe, like. 323 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: Maybe if I wanted to follow us, did they think 324 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: it was real? 325 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: So I feel like people didn't understand what was happening 326 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: because nobody had given them that before me like way, yeah, 327 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: so I feel like I say, before now yeah yeah, 328 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: I like that. So when I posted, people who were confused, 329 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: like what's happening? But I guess people that knew me 330 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: already like wait, there's no way you took a picture. 331 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 4: And when I saw the reaction, like this might be 332 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 4: the way to, you know, to gain people, to win 333 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: people over to check my music because I've been I've 334 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: been dropping songs. 335 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: That's marketing, genie. 336 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: I've been dropping songs before then nobody paid. I mean 337 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: I was nobody. Nobody paid any mind, not even people 338 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: in the media or anything. So when I saw the reaction, 339 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: I knew, yeah, this was my way. 340 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Crazy that you could be putting out great music, But 341 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: how do you get people to pay attention? 342 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 343 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: Don't even get me started down. It's hard. 344 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: Is it harder now? 345 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: I mean I mean not for me, but for people. 346 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: I'm sure it is. But thankfully, I mean, there's there's apps, now, 347 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: there's talk, you know, you can do something on the 348 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: and the just just happy moment. It's I feel like 349 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: it's quicker to blow up. 350 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: Now that you can. 351 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: And that's another conversation entirely what you. 352 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: Say about this to you like later in life. 353 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: I don't think we ever spoke about you. You have 354 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 4: like we've seen so many times that it doesn't even 355 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: matter anymore. That yeah. But then so when so I 356 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 4: found that to be my way to, you know, win 357 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 4: people over, and then I decided I just doubled out. 358 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: I did. I did more than Julian celebrities, more people, 359 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 4: ragious picture, yeah, so more more people on the radio, 360 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 4: because I know if you see that, if you see 361 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: that picture and people reacting to it, they probably comment 362 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: or something. So I was trying to get people attention. 363 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 4: That's how I first warn people over in the media. 364 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 4: And so when it was when when I now released 365 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 4: my song Shady the cover, which was the cover, it 366 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 4: was easy to just be like, oh, this guy, the 367 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: guy that drops incredible, I mean crazy for the show pictures, 368 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 4: also sings and thankfully the song is great. 369 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: That's how it starts. 370 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: It's got to be and it just it just it 371 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: just started away. So it wasn't hard for me to say, oh, 372 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 4: I want to, you know, come on your show, because 373 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: already people are already following me for being so yeah. 374 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: So I was able to text I would like to 375 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 4: come on your show. You know, I don't know, I 376 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 4: just released the song. It would be nice to you know, 377 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: let's talk and then they just open their arms and 378 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: then just. 379 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: Think about like everything that you've manifested, you know, just 380 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: litten to your wife's Facebook DM. 381 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: Open it. But now look at you that work out. 382 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: I've used I've used my words, right, A man said, 383 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: I've said everything I am till today, I've said it. Wow, 384 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't even learn about I didn't even 385 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: learn about affirmations or anything until now. I just knew 386 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: that if you want something, you just have to say. 387 00:18:54,080 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 4: I always believe that. So my life is is is 388 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: full full on affirmation. 389 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: What have been some crazy fame stories that you've had, 390 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, because like you said, it's been you know, 391 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: it's been a journey to getting here. This is your 392 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: sixth album, right yeah, and people are saying this is 393 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: like the most out of everything so far, the just 394 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: the most developed, well rounded and it feels like you 395 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: really dug deep, like people could feel that personal connection. 396 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: But have you had like some crazy things happen along 397 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: the way. 398 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: It's different things. It's shows like you perform, so maybe 399 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: one time I went to perform in in It's like 400 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 4: it's states in Nigeria, right, and we got to the show. 401 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 4: It was fine. Leaving the show, it was so chaotic, 402 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: like it was a lot of frenzy. And that happens 403 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: every time we'll go to perform, you know, like it's 404 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 4: almost hard to to leave the show. People want to 405 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 4: greet you, they want to know. Some people want money, 406 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 4: and when you leave, you almost live like violently, like 407 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: you have. 408 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: To put your way through. 409 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: They want money from you. 410 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean just fans. Yeah, all of that. 411 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: And then when when I shot one of my videos, 412 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: I shot in Nicod where you know, we had like 413 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 4: boys boys on the like on the streets. When we 414 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: shot the video, we spoke to people in the area 415 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 4: like yeah, please, it's Sam's shooting the video. We're going 416 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 4: to pay everybody, you know, so that nobody just stoves 417 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: us or anything. Right, So we thought we had that 418 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: on the under control. And then I was on the kennel, 419 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 4: went to some side in the middle of the river, right, 420 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: And then when I was coming back, I saw people 421 00:20:54,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: waiting for me. I knew this is going to be 422 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: so hard to like find my way out of so 423 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: I got down, you know, try to try to try 424 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 4: to use some of my streets, streets stres and then 425 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: speak to them in the language that they understand. So 426 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 4: who were responding to me? It was fine, we couldn't control. 427 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I have to get in the car now. 428 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to go safety as much as you 429 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: want to be. 430 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: And then we got in the car and yo, these 431 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 4: people followed us from I can't even describe it. And 432 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 4: then we did every you know, and the thing is 433 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 4: you just couldn't explain to say, yo, let's calm down. 434 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 4: Everybody will be so there's no. 435 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: There's nothing you could do about it. It's too chaotic. 436 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have security with you. 437 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: They couldn't do anything. There's a lot of people, but 438 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's love, but it's just how to. 439 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: Could make it. 440 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: Somebody could get hurt, somebody exactly, Yeah, in the middle 441 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: of some type of mayor. 442 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: That that one is always it's gontant by the. 443 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: Way, it's just did you have footage of it? 444 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 4: I think no, I know you where you did? 445 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: Like you need some footage because. 446 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 4: At that moment there was no time. 447 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: Okay, by the way, yeah, somebody did. 448 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead. 449 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: But getting back to the album, you know you also 450 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: signed a death Jam. 451 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: What is there sign jam? 452 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 453 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: So so when did you when did you leave four? 454 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, yeah so. 455 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: You only said one album with Death Jam Yeah okay. 456 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean they the work was done there 457 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: and I wanted to do something else, you know, and 458 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: that's what. Yeah, I'm independent now. 459 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: We like that? 460 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love it. I love it. I love it. 461 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 4: It feels like Jam was great, everything went well, but 462 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 4: it's just the new journey. It felt like I needed 463 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: to know, do on my own team, you know, do 464 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: something entirely different. And yeah, we started our own label 465 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: something different. 466 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: Okay, there it is to do something different. 467 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then that's what we're doing. 468 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: So what's that journey, man like? And what's the difference 469 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: between putting out this album sixth album under your own label? 470 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 4: Because I've done it like three three, four times. So 471 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 4: if she was like, I'm back to it again, let 472 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 4: me do it myself. 473 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: But you when you first you got an album deal first, 474 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: like when you first came out, you gots signed, right. 475 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I got signed to you know, laid by 476 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: Ali Date. 477 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: Okay, so how was it being signed to Alami day 478 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: because sometimes like artists to artists, it could be a vibe, 479 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: but it also can be I always know artists. Ay, 480 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: sometimes it's a little weird of being signed to an artist. 481 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 4: No, it was good. He was very good. He allowed us. 482 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: You know. I think that's where I first learned about 483 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 4: freedom to create because it was never like in your 484 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 4: way of creating or anything. He didn't have any influence. 485 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: Once you're aready with the single, you know what you 486 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 4: want to drop, he just you know, does the right 487 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: necessary things you will pay for, pay a video, you know, 488 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: the promotion and all those things. So he told was 489 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 4: freedom very okay, So it was he was there. 490 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: How did you freedom to create on the deaf gym too? 491 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah I did? I did? I did. 492 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: I mean they were riding away that was already there 493 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: right yeah, but god, how did you and alamidae even? 494 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: Like, how did that even happen? 495 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: So I was it was when I was being a 496 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 4: king of for the show. So he noticed me as well. 497 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 4: But I started to design for his label. I designed 498 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 4: the YB and logo. 499 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: That's how you get in there, look at you. 500 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: So when I when I when I released the song, 501 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 4: you know, what's crazy is during when I was being 502 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 4: king of for the show, I sent Alamida song that 503 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: I wrote for him. I sent it to him but 504 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: obviously because first of all, I don't I don't even 505 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 4: know if it was great. I'm not gonna lie it 506 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 4: was great, remember I think I remember. But to me 507 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 4: then it was a vibe. I mean. I sent to 508 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 4: him like, yo, I know he wrote the songs. He 509 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: I think he's written all this, all the songs, right, 510 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: But I said, let me just try sending a song. 511 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: I think he listened to. I don't honestly, I don't 512 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: know if you listen to it. But he didn't. He 513 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 4: didn't really respond. I'm like, let me just focus on 514 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 4: in order the work that I was getting. So when 515 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: I when I did, dropped obviously heard it right then, 516 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 4: feels produce producer. Then sent him the song like I 517 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 4: think you should sign this guy. Okay, that's that's how 518 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: he signed me. 519 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: That's dope and the rest is history. 520 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: How did you believe it when you got the message, 521 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes I couldn't. 522 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it, Like, wait, what do you mean 523 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: when to sign me? When he said when he sent 524 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: the deal I'm like, bro, yeah, sent to the lawyers. 525 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 4: Listen to this. 526 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, what was your situation like then, because I 527 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: was just. 528 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: Even financially, I know you had a job, you were working. 529 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 4: So I didn't have a job anymore that time. Yeah, 530 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 4: the company that I was going I was working laid 531 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: me off because we weren't making money and it was new. 532 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 4: So I was in a position where I'm like, you know, 533 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 4: say that sink and sink and swim. That's why in 534 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 4: the song big Fish, I said, like I was, I 535 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 4: had to make a decision, make it or what am 536 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: I going to do? Because I didn't have a job. 537 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 4: I knew I could do freelance graphics, but I knew 538 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 4: that it was time to push my music. So he 539 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: came at the right time when I was ready to 540 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: go all in. You know. So I had a job. 541 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 4: I didn't have a job anymore. I just had my space, 542 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: my one bedroom apartment, my my baby boy. On that 543 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety nine I remember that was that was yeah, 544 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 4: I had my girl. 545 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 546 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get to this because so Simili, it 547 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: was way too before. 548 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, or you blew up, it was. 549 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 4: Twenty thirteen. 550 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: Oh wow, you're been together and she blow up like that. Okay, 551 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: you know she's see you. 552 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. 553 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: Now how did you get her? She's an amazing songwriter. 554 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 4: Amazing, amazing Simi already similarity was a big artist. You know, 555 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 4: when she was making gospel music. You know, she was 556 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: already big. Okay, and when she decided to do uh, 557 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 4: you know, to do go mainstream, right, she was. She 558 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: had the song before before I blew, she had teeth 559 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: and then you know, go funny. She was working on 560 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 4: the album already, so she already had the moment she had. 561 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: Question how does that feel for your ego too? Because 562 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: I know for men sometimes it's hard when your woman 563 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: is like six doing it and you're like, dang, I 564 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: don't have a job. 565 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 2: I'm trying to. 566 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 4: You have to understand, I don't care what anybody says, 567 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 4: Sims number one fan, So I mean, what does the 568 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 4: fan do? You just want to see them when so 569 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: asis being just because I'm married to her, it's not 570 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 4: this has it has nothing to do even just in 571 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: the Union. I'm a fan and this talent. The world 572 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: most hear this person. So any way, let's go. I've 573 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 4: been like that since since I met her. If I knew, 574 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 4: I knew about seeing when I heard a song called Ogaju. 575 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 4: It was one of when she was making gospel, and 576 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: I listened to that song too many times. I'm like, no, 577 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 4: this is incredible. That's why. That's why I said that. 578 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you didn't know her personally. 579 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: Want so you a fan of her and you do 580 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: her as a fan yet. 581 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 4: I said a long message, long yeah, and that's like, wait, 582 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: this song is incredible. 583 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: Were you shoot on your show or were you. 584 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: Just I was just being a fan, just being a fan. Wow. 585 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: And then you guys became friends first. 586 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 4: Then I don't, I don't even know. I don't. I'm 587 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: trying to remember. Yeah, I think we maybe I'm trying 588 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 4: to remember how we linked. Eventually we then we we 589 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 4: She had the show at Bogle, someplace in Legos where 590 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 4: you discover like underground music, people that have incredible songs. 591 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: You know, they read poems. It's a very nice and 592 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 4: so I she had a show there and I think 593 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 4: I saw it on the Instagram or something. Then I 594 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 4: so I decided I was going to go. I think 595 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: I SENTI mythic to the outcome, and then that's why 596 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: I saw her perform, like, yeah, I became even bigger 597 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: than like is just nice? It's not fine, yo, what's 598 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 4: going on? Then we became friends and I was shooting 599 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: my show, my show, and finally happened. 600 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 3: Right did she kind of like rejected you a little bit? 601 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 4: She did, because. 602 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: Then she went back and saw all the messages she 603 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: didn't respond to. 604 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I still I still do have a 605 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 4: replied today. 606 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: Right she still let you read? 607 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: But how has me really inspired your work, your music 608 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: and your creativity? 609 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 4: See me, I said, nobody writes. 610 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: Like to me. She got this song. I just she 611 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: was previewing it for her single friends. 612 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 4: Listen, nobody. I've never seen somebody write about ten songs 613 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: on one beat before. I've never seen anybody like that. 614 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 4: Me and I've seen all the artists work like you 615 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: have a connection to one beat and then what about 616 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 4: you dropping that moment? It feels like the right one, 617 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 4: you know, So trying to write something else on the 618 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 4: same beat, it must be like it must be so 619 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: giant because it is to me like, please send me 620 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 4: something else. I need to hear something and so I 621 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 4: can create see me as written too many songs on 622 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 4: one different beats and then most times it's like maybe 623 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 4: the fifth one that will go out and then it 624 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 4: becomes a do the care. I think she wrote like 625 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 4: two three times, and so there's too many songs like that. 626 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 4: I've seen her work. I've seen that when she had 627 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 4: just USB mike that was that she both for twenty 628 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 4: dollars to make incredible EP make incredible songs. That he 629 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: first album she had recorded those songs on a USB 630 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 4: mike before. I've seen somebody build a career out of 631 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: like just having too and not complaining. So she she 632 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 4: inspires me and work ethic is incredible. Nobody writes likes 633 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 4: to me, and it's no, absolutely nobody nobody. That's that's 634 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 4: one of my that's one of my favorite songwriters in 635 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 4: the world. And she so when she when she started 636 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 4: to really enjoy my music, it felt like it felt 637 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 4: like an approval that I that I was waiting. 638 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: For some point so a while for her to enjoy 639 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: your music. 640 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 4: No, so she she loved She loved myself because when 641 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 4: I was making when we met, I was making pop songs. 642 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: She said this is says this is good. But I've 643 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 4: heard you, she told me. She said, I've heard you 644 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: sing your songs in Euroba and I think you sound better. Okay, 645 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 4: So she she really made me start to do. 646 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: She pushed you. 647 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 4: So when I made good album, she pushed me to, 648 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 4: you know, try high life. Don't wrung from this thing 649 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: you have it. It's you, It's a part of you, 650 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 4: and you want to make pop so bad. But this 651 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 4: is you. She she told me, said, you you sing 652 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: it with so much joy that I feel like this 653 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: is what you should do. So she's like, yeah. So 654 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 4: then I made so I made the cover of Flavors 655 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 4: that I did my versions called the Alady. And when 656 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 4: I did that, she she mixed the song. She did it, 657 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 4: she took my vocals and we put that out and 658 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 4: I saw the reaction that that. I'm like, okay, I mean, 659 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: I guess she's right, yes everybody. Then I made gold 660 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 4: album off of that. 661 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: I love that. Did your daughter sing at all? Or 662 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: do you see that this? 663 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: I think she's the biggest one fan of the album. 664 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: She knows at least ten songs on this album right now. Wow, 665 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: and coming from because when I when I dropped out 666 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 4: of school, sometimes I play my songs and she just 667 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 4: tell me like, this is man. She said. Some one 668 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 4: times she said, she said, Daddy, please play kids songs 669 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 4: like but now when I played, she wants to listen 670 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,239 Speaker 4: to the album, like, oh you like this? 671 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: One's five? Only five? 672 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 4: She sings. She can't she can hold the notes. I 673 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 4: already know that. Yeah, this is the start. 674 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: What do you think is her favorite one? I would say, believe, I. 675 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 4: See she loves, she loves, believes she loves Lilo. Okay, 676 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 4: I believe she loves because she can sing that one. 677 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 4: She can sing my whole verses. Yeah, I believe. Believe 678 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 4: she loves money, she loves you know she loves the 679 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 4: beginning of cook Morning. When she got to the chorus, 680 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 4: she tried to sing, I note you say you say 681 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: please better. 682 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: I like that please version please, So. 683 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 4: I since then she's been singing please because I know 684 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 4: she wants to sing that. And she would look at 685 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: me like. 686 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: You know you can know better? Does she have a 687 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: voice already? 688 00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: You think she does? 689 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: Okay, she does. 690 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: It isn't nice to be able to work and like 691 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: do music with your wife and videos. That's got to 692 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: feel like the ultimate. 693 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 4: It's we don't even do plenty of that, but it's. 694 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: It's comfortable but I think they'll stand out too though, 695 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: Like people love to see it, and I think there's 696 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: like all pages dedicated to your guys' relationships, Like people 697 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: look at y'all and like fans of the two of 698 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: you together. 699 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: That's got to feel a little like it's amazing me. 700 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want there's more pressure. 701 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 2: We're there's no pressure. 702 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 3: But I mean, you guys are a Nigerian power couple, 703 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 3: you know. 704 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's what people say and I find 705 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 4: out very it's sweet. But it's just like we were 706 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 4: just doing our things. 707 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it looks naturally. 708 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: I saw the video she posted you like the dated 709 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: album came out, and it was like a celebration, like 710 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, it just was nice to see at home. 711 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 4: Just yeah, it was. That was a moment for me 712 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 4: as well. It's listen, we create, we create, we have 713 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 4: on when we're making music. I when it's time to 714 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 4: be a family with family. 715 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. 716 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: The best of both worlds is a family. Another thing 717 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 3: I know we wanted to touch on is you've been 718 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 3: very vocal about your your journey with Sickle Cell. You 719 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 3: made a song about that. I know you were just 720 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 3: here at NYU last month talking about that, to talk 721 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 3: about why that's been so important for you to be 722 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: public and to try to really invest to help other 723 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 3: people who may have sickle cell. 724 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 4: I mean, because first of all, I'm grateful that I 725 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 4: have a platform and I have the voice, you know, 726 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 4: to speak about something that's that's not talked about enough, 727 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 4: you know, little people. You speak to people today, and 728 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 4: then you realize people don't even know what sickle cell is. 729 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 4: And that's crazy to me because he affects like a. 730 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: Lot of people, Black people, especially black people. 731 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 4: And people living with sickle cell. That we have the 732 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 4: most people living with sickle cell in Nigeria, you know, 733 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 4: like Nigeria has the highest people living with sickle cell. 734 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 4: And if it's kids, you hear about year olds having strokes. 735 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 4: It's like, that's no normal and it's painful. It's painful, 736 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 4: you know. So it's it's in in a normal blood cell, 737 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 4: it's supposed to be a circle, you know, but in 738 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 4: a sickle cell, patient's sequel, so it allows it doesn't 739 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 4: allow blood flow verable and that that brings pain. There's 740 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 4: a lot of pain, pain in your joints, pain because 741 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 4: of less oxygen that you have yeah, you know, so 742 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 4: it's crazy and I've I've lived with all my life. 743 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: I've experienced the pain. I've seen stigmatization where people look 744 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 4: at you like you have a death sentence if you 745 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 4: say you have sickle cell because they know it's not curable. 746 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 4: It's it just goes on for the rest of your life. 747 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: Is it as far as being manageable? Is there any 748 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: way you could prevent you know? Or is it just 749 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: like sometimes you just never know what's going to happen. 750 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 4: So people have been working so right now, I just 751 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 4: partnered with n y U. You know, there's making researches, 752 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 4: you know, the making well we're making they are currently 753 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 4: working on drug sale. Yes, that's that's some drug that 754 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 4: you can use to you know, manage the pain, and 755 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 4: that I think the hope is that that reduces like 756 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 4: the crisis drastically. You know. So there's there's big complaces 757 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 4: fully cast drugs that people take, you know, but thinks 758 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 4: they're not even affordable for more people. And that's why 759 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 4: my foundation what we do is bi monthly we do 760 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 4: our treaches where people come you know together. We see 761 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 4: about five hundred people every bi monthly when we do 762 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 4: it so we give them three drugs that will last 763 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 4: them till the next outreach. 764 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: That's great. 765 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 4: You know. So we see children, we do, we have 766 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 4: sessions where we we make arts. You know. It's just 767 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 4: like a place where they can come and feel good 768 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 4: because it's painful. What the life that they living is. 769 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 4: It's constant pain, constant feeling depressed because you feel like 770 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 4: there's no help for you, you know. And to add 771 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 4: to that, we just did we give out. We have 772 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 4: our healthcare insurance called five Stars Care, So we gave 773 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 4: a one thousand people living circle sell free health. 774 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: That's great for a year, you know. 775 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 3: So we were Yeah, I had a girl friend Rescircle Sound. 776 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: She was constantly in the hospital as well as that's 777 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 3: something that you had to go through as well. 778 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 4: Constantly. Man, there was a night where I think I 779 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 4: was twenty, I had the craziest crest of my life 780 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 4: where I just said, you know what, yeah, take my life. 781 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was that pain. 782 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 4: I wasn't even my mom couldn't even stop me, because 783 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 4: she would normally she would like, you know, say you 784 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 4: don't stop saying you know, stop saying things like that. 785 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 4: But it got to a point where that night it 786 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 4: just felt like the only thing that makes sense. It 787 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 4: just happened, you know, and people go through that constantly, bedreading, 788 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 4: being in the hospital. So I'm I'm glad to you know, 789 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 4: like glad, I'm glad you're doing this. They all need 790 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 4: to know about it and then help needs to come. 791 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 2: Now. 792 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate that because that is something that people need 793 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: to talk about more, like you said, and it does 794 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: disproportionately affect black people, and sometimes you feel like that's 795 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: why not enough is being done, you know, because I mean. 796 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be also also attention is on other diseases, 797 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 4: I know, like this is a big one as well. 798 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 4: I wanted to know about. 799 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: What do you what do you look at like the 800 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 2: United States? 801 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm just curious what do you think about was like 802 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: going on here with the president and do you like, 803 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: do you look at what's happening. 804 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: I always wonder how people view us, and. 805 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 4: I don't think it's because every country has what they 806 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 4: deal with. Yeah, I think that. 807 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: Seem like it's a little crazy here now though in particular, like. 808 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I know, I just it's it's the people 809 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 4: losing their homes, you know, their families that have to 810 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 4: go back to places. I think that's very Yeah, that's sad, 811 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 4: and my heart goes to anybody that had to go 812 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 4: through that, because imagine having building a whole life here, 813 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 4: probably buying a home, you know, having kids, raising kids here, 814 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 4: and then one night, all of a sudden, you have 815 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 4: to go back, Yeah, and to work. I feel like 816 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 4: that's very that's really sad. You know that that one 817 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: touches me the most. 818 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of people who 819 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: are really hesitant to come to the United States, whether 820 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 3: it's like on Viso, like because of how crazy it 821 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 3: is and how Ice is literally snatching up people. 822 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 2: I like, watch the news. 823 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: It makes me so sad, Like there's times that I 824 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: want to cry just been watching the news and seeing 825 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: what they're doing to people. 826 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, people through that. 827 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like even if you look at like bad Bunny right, 828 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 3: like he was protesting, he didn't want to do anything 829 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 3: in the United States. He wanted to do things in 830 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 3: Puerto Rico, which is a part of the United States, 831 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 3: but it's not the homeland. So you do have certain 832 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 3: artists that are taking a stance like, look, I don't 833 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 3: like what's going on in the political scene. I want 834 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 3: to make sure that dollars are flowing to my country. 835 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 4: You know, so man, I just pray, pray for I 836 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 4: pray for the world to man, it's yeah, it's a 837 00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 4: lot going on everywhere. 838 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 2: You know. 839 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: What I have noticed though, everybody from here is what 840 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: is traveling to Africa? 841 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 2: Now to Africa are South Africa. 842 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 4: It's about time you guys need to understand that. 843 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Africa, African ancestry. 844 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 3: Come on out. 845 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did me. 846 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 2: And what's the percentage? 847 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't give you percentages, just give you your lineas 848 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 1: African ancests. No I am I've been to South Africa only, 849 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: but I do want to go. 850 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 2: I need some time though, because that's a. 851 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 4: Long flight to go to Tonna, go. 852 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: To let somebody's first time going where would you say 853 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: it would be the first stop? 854 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 4: Please come to Legos Legs of course, though it's nothing 855 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 4: compared to what you guys have here. O R traffican 856 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 4: Legals is crazy boy here, that's. 857 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: My afrobas playlist. It's a night in Legos. It's a 858 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: whole playlist Legos. 859 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 4: It's high energy, it's it's crazy vibes, it's beautiful and you've. 860 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: Got a street named after you. Period yeah, December. 861 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I mean every time you come to Legos 862 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 4: it's a good time, but December is. Yeah. 863 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: But with we go, I'm gonna be like, I'm friends 864 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 2: with a Lego pull out. 865 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 4: You need to know, let's go, let's go, let's go. Ready, 866 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 4: we can't so's be ready. We can't go to like 867 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 4: we can go to like maybe three four clubs in 868 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 4: the night. Are you down? Are you ready for that? 869 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 3: Oh? 870 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, all night. I'm a photo shot myself 871 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 2: with you in the picture, and I'm like. 872 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 4: You know, people, we Legos. It's crazy during December. They 873 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 4: are clubs are twenty four hours party. I've seen it 874 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 4: on and then sometimes there clubs you go like and 875 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 4: you don't come out to like eight am and people 876 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 4: go to work. 877 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 2: And they go to work listens different. That was New 878 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 2: York in the nineties. 879 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: Yes, oh wow, we got to do like a Legos 880 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: in New York night or something like that, Like that's 881 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: what it means to be New York. Yeah, for one 882 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 1: night and be out all night long. I could see 883 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: it all right. 884 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate you so much for coming through. 885 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: Honestly, I know it's been a long time coming, but 886 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: I think this was the perfect timing. 887 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: You know. 888 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: Congratulations on an amazing project, really great and fun to 889 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: listen to, but also it has the depth that it 890 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: is that we need just a lot of range, and 891 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. 892 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 2: So thank you. 893 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 4: To be here. Thank you, and this was a great conversation. 894 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're welcome any time period. All right. Yeah that. 895 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 4: Okayn't seen everywhere. 896 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is eight and this is this is it. 897 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 4: This is Cloky friendly. 898 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 2: You better catch on to me. Okay, it's way up.