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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday on the show. You know that means my day

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<v Speaker 1>off is over. What do I mean by that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday I only had to watch one wrestling show. It

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy. I watched five shows this past weekend, and

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<v Speaker 1>today I got to watch the twenty years Ago on

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<v Speaker 1>this week's retro Impact and it was actually a Thursday special,

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<v Speaker 1>so I believe it is the December eighth edition of

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<v Speaker 1>Bryan and Vinie Show, and then NXT is tonight as well. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for that. We'll give you the lineup

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<v Speaker 1>for NXT thus far, and also tomorrow is Dynamite Winter

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<v Speaker 1>is coming, which we only have three matches announced. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very weird. There's probably gonna be at least two Continental

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<v Speaker 1>Classic matches, but nothing has been announced because these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are wrestling so hard that I guess we're gonna wait

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<v Speaker 1>until the last minute to find out who's not hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>so then we can tell you what matches are taking

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<v Speaker 1>place tomorrow. Oh kind of seems to me that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we should tone things down if that's the way we

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<v Speaker 1>have to book now to find out who's healthy and

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<v Speaker 1>who's not. But anyway, we'll go over the Dynamite lineup

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<v Speaker 1>that we have thus far, and then we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of news. Of course. Last night was Monday Night

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<v Speaker 1>Raw was the final raw before the last match of

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<v Speaker 1>John Cena, who's already signed a new five year deal.

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<v Speaker 1>and Dynamite Ratings, World Tag League and plenty more lands

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the show. Brian Albertz here Wrestling Observer Live

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<v Speaker 1>Lance is joining us here today fresh off a long weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Hull Lance.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was, although I've got to say the wrestling

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<v Speaker 7>fans in El Paso, Texas are great old school wrestling

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<v Speaker 7>fans and they were fantastic three nights in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you are you allowed to tell us whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not you were the agent for that AJ Francis match?

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<v Speaker 3>I was not.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's responsible for that?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you gotta find out because I want to put

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<v Speaker 1>him over. That was the best finish, Actually, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the second best finish of the weekend. It was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was my favorite finish of the weekend. But the actual

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<v Speaker 1>best finish was that Nigel McGinnis iron Man match where

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<v Speaker 1>they managed to get a fall at zero seconds. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the most I mean, I can't even believe how

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly they did three falls in ninety seconds, with the

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<v Speaker 1>last one being literally exactly at the buzzer. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was astonishing. So I've never seen a better time

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<v Speaker 1>to finish in my life.

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<v Speaker 7>But far as a fun finish, my most.

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<v Speaker 1>The best finish of the weekend, my favorite, my personal

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<v Speaker 1>favorite finish, was the finish of that AJ Francis yet.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know for sure, but if I had to guess,

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<v Speaker 7>that probably came from Creative and Tommy Dreamer because that

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<v Speaker 7>has the feel of Tommy Dreamer all over it. Well again,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, it could have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Deserves an award for that finish, I would say. So

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, and you guys taped on Saturday. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we don't do spoil but if you're a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of matches, we've seen a lot over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months. Have I got some shows for you? Right?

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<v Speaker 7>We taped four weeks of television, which we'll cover five

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<v Speaker 7>because we got a little bit extra two ways. We

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<v Speaker 7>have a show on Christmas Day, so I'm assuming that'll

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<v Speaker 7>be a partially highlights and so forth, but at least

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<v Speaker 7>one big new match, much like we did on Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we've heard about AMC is probably going live

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<v Speaker 1>every every three weeks or so. You have you got

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<v Speaker 1>any more information? Do they tell you anything when you went

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<v Speaker 1>down there.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't get anything pinned down other than it won't

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<v Speaker 7>be every week, but I suspect long term it'll greatly

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<v Speaker 7>depend on if the tape shows do as well as

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<v Speaker 7>the live shows, and if they do, then there won't

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<v Speaker 7>be a panic to go live every week. But if

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<v Speaker 7>the live shows do a lot better, then I would

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<v Speaker 7>imagine that would be the direction they want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well historically, as much as people like to think otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, yeah, you need to go live enough that

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<v Speaker 7>the fans sort of get the impression that it's a

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<v Speaker 7>live show. And then once they sort of have that

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<v Speaker 7>feeling that they're live shows, you can actually have quite

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<v Speaker 7>a few of them taped and nobody even notices.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that and also, you know, everyone everyone seems to

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<v Speaker 1>think that spoilers make people not watch a show, but really,

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<v Speaker 1>more often than not, when there's a spoiler and people

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<v Speaker 1>are like what, they actually tune in. I mean a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times.

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<v Speaker 7>When Foley won the title, yeah, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of times, well that was because you know, Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Chivoni told him to go watch the show. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of times, even nowadays, it's like they'll

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<v Speaker 1>they'll tape a smack down and it turns out there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a title change or whatever, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>end up getting a better number than when they did

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<v Speaker 1>the live show. So there's this idea that's always been

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<v Speaker 1>there that live is more exciting and more people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to tune in when it's live. But that's never

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<v Speaker 1>actually really hand out, so we'll see that happens.

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<v Speaker 7>I think having the occasional live is a real benefit

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<v Speaker 7>because it allows you to do the occasional true surprise. Sure,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, like that was where when like Dolf Ziggler

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<v Speaker 7>debuted and when Santana debuted and we had those surprises,

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<v Speaker 7>we had to do them on pay per view because

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<v Speaker 7>those were the only live shows we had. But now

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<v Speaker 7>you can throw a few of those out on impact

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<v Speaker 7>because some of the shows are going to be live

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<v Speaker 7>on AMZ starting January fifteenth, new time slot nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, very good, Lance, all right, the office will be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they will be. Now, what I'm not happy

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<v Speaker 1>about is NXT there tonight. And so far we've got

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<v Speaker 1>four things announced and this is like, we got an

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<v Speaker 1>open challenge for Blake of Neuroe's NXT Women's North American title.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Jordan Grace versus Kilanie, Jordan Hank and Tank

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<v Speaker 1>return and Shiloh Hill debuts. So really we have one

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<v Speaker 1>match that we actually know. We have a mystery match,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have a return and a debut. This is

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<v Speaker 1>coming off their last pl and I can't say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>blown away by the lineup for this show. Here they

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<v Speaker 1>don't even mention, you know, the man and the woman

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<v Speaker 1>who won Iron Survivor Challenge. I would presume they'd be

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. I don't know why you can't just

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<v Speaker 1>advertise that, but pretty nothing happened in lineup. And then

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<v Speaker 1>for Winters coming on Wednesday, it's a good lineup. The

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<v Speaker 1>three matches, we have Samoa, Joe Verzetti, Kingston, which should

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<v Speaker 1>be really good. We got the finals of the women's

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<v Speaker 1>tag title tournaments, so we will have new women's tag

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<v Speaker 1>team champions tomorrow on Dynamite, Will Nightingale and Harley Cameron

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<v Speaker 1>versus Tony and Mina. And then we have Hangman and

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<v Speaker 1>Swerve versus Shebata and Hobbes and presumably and this is

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<v Speaker 1>this always. I'm just not a fan of this. We

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<v Speaker 1>have no Classic matches announced for Wednesday or this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>or for Collision, because I guess we have to see,

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<v Speaker 1>well who's healthy anyway, My not my promotion.

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<v Speaker 7>Though, at least as a general rule, Continental Classic matches

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<v Speaker 7>are good and well received. So as long as they

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<v Speaker 7>know there's some of those on the show, I suppose

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<v Speaker 7>it'll help a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we actually don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>That, but we presumed that we assume that class, but.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know if there aren't.

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<v Speaker 7>Enough people healthy to even have matches.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, we've already got we've already got of

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<v Speaker 1>all people. Darby Allen out of the tournament because he

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt, and we're we're three weeks in and we

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<v Speaker 1>can't even announce matches because we have to find out

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<v Speaker 1>who's not hurt. I just think there has to be

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<v Speaker 1>a way to tone this down a little bit so

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<v Speaker 1>we're not constantly having to see who's hurt and who's

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<v Speaker 1>not hurt so that we can book our show. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have to get hurt to have

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<v Speaker 1>a great match. In fact, I know you don't because

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<v Speaker 1>historically you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 7>People have done it, people have.

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<v Speaker 1>Done it quite successfully. But well, this is where we

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<v Speaker 1>are right now, So we'll find out when we find

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<v Speaker 1>out if there's going to be any Continent Classic matches.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Max, what's going on over there?

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<v Speaker 6>Brother?

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<v Speaker 7>He's mad? He wants this Continental Classic.

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<v Speaker 1>Matches what's see. What's the upset about with this show?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. He's with his bad leg. He's been

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<v Speaker 7>more restless than usual.

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<v Speaker 3>Geez.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, we had an appearance by Mark Shapiro

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<v Speaker 1>on the UBS Global Media and Communications Conference and he

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<v Speaker 1>was asked about the future availability of archive we content

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to NXT premium live events, which, honestly, at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, if they lose NXT Premium live events, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>alright with that. I'm very upset with this company right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's what he says. First off, if you've been

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<v Speaker 1>on Peacock lately, I don't know how many of you

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<v Speaker 1>guys go up there regularly, but not all of the content,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of the content, mostly the historical content.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's the ples, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the NXT shows, but a lot of the content now,

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<v Speaker 1>says twenty one days remaining, so it's gonna be history

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<v Speaker 1>here soon. But he says they are working on a

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<v Speaker 1>non exclusive deal. Expect to have something to announce in

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<v Speaker 1>the first quarter of twenty twenty six. The deal with

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<v Speaker 1>Peacock to carry most ww archive content expires at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the year. Regarding nxtpls. They haven't gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>market yet. Shapiro said there is no rush to do so,

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<v Speaker 1>as they want to be both deliberate and thoughtful about

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<v Speaker 1>the process. I wish they would be deliberate and thoughtful

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<v Speaker 1>with the NXT booking. The deal with Peacock to carry

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<v Speaker 1>nxt plees expires in March of so nxtpls will remain

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<v Speaker 1>on Peacock at least through March. That we know. Shapiro

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<v Speaker 1>City is thrilled that the industrial logic of bringing it

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<v Speaker 1>to IP and blah blah blah blah blah. Let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>he is confident ESPN head Jimmy Petara will get the

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<v Speaker 1>process moving fast of green lighting various cable providers to

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<v Speaker 1>sync with ESPN. So basically, those of you that have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for this ESPN whatever the heck it's called now,

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<v Speaker 1>not ESPN plus ESPN whatever to watch the pay per

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<v Speaker 1>views if you have certain cable companies, I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>which ones they are, but you basically get it as

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<v Speaker 1>part of your package. Most do not. But he's saying

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<v Speaker 1>that they're trying to get this green lit for most

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<v Speaker 1>of the cable companies ESPN unlimited. I guess what's called

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<v Speaker 1>right now, so we'll talk more about this after the

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<v Speaker 1>Breakubserver Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike SIMPERVV on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, this ESPN thing, so I have it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>on my iPad and Apple TV and such. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a giant e but it is technically ESPN Unlimited, even

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<v Speaker 1>though the website to get ESPN Unlimited is Plus dot

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<v Speaker 1>espn dot com. It's the old ESPN Plus website, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not ESPN Plus anyway. The point is right now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have DirecTV, Fubo TV, Hulu Plus, Live TV Spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>and Verizon FiOS, if it sounds like somebody is working

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<v Speaker 1>on my roof, it's because someone is working on my roof.

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<v Speaker 1>So let Max know so they can all make noise

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. DirecTV, Fubo TV, Hulu Plus, Live

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<v Speaker 1>TV Spectrum, and Verizon FiOS. All of those get this

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN Unlimited for free as part of your cable package.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you've got, for example, what are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the others Comcast, does that even still exist? YouTube TV,

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<v Speaker 1>any of these others. I mean, you don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>So they claim that they're working to have it made

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<v Speaker 1>available on all of those different places, so we shall see.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to have it available on YouTube TV,

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<v Speaker 1>but not happening yet. Summer third Dynamite for ninety six

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<v Speaker 1>thousand viewers, down slightly point zero nine in eighteen to

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine, down ten percent from the prior week, third

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<v Speaker 1>lowest they've done since October seventh. There was a sporting competition,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, et cetera, and really not much more to

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<v Speaker 1>say about it than that. Pretty much any show I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking Dynamite Collision SmackDown XT we don't really get TNA numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>but you cannot compare them to anything before, like the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of October. If you try to compare them to

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<v Speaker 1>how the show was even doing in September August last year,

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<v Speaker 1>it's now an unfair comparison because of the way that

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<v Speaker 1>these new ratings are the big data plus panel. So

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much you gotta just compare it to what it

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<v Speaker 1>was doing at the beginning of October if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say whether things are up or down. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is the number, all right. An update on the World

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<v Speaker 1>Tag League. This is pretty much the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>World Tag League Jeremy Finestone speaking of Strong Style. You

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<v Speaker 1>should listen to that podcast if you love Japanese professional wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy knows his stuff. So this is the wrap up

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<v Speaker 1>for this year's World Tag League. Bishi Mon will take

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<v Speaker 1>on Zach Saber Junior and Rio hey Oeu all Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>in Nagasaki. Gabe Kit and Yodasuji will face the Knockout

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers on Friday and Kagashima for the semi final, and

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<v Speaker 1>the winners of those matches we'll meet in the World

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<v Speaker 1>Tag League Final on Sunday, so it's either gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>well those are the four teams. So it ended up

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<v Speaker 1>with Block A, Shodan yu Ya and Conan Newman ended

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<v Speaker 1>up with eight points there and for the A Block

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<v Speaker 1>Kid and Suji bishamant Evil and Don Falle and the

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<v Speaker 1>Shingo War Dragons all had eight points. And we ended

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<v Speaker 1>up with some matches over the last couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>that have now got everything set up for the finale.

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<v Speaker 1>So once again Wednesday would be late tonight. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Saber Junior Nouwa versus Bishuman that's tonight and the

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<v Speaker 1>winners of that will face the winners of Gabe Kit

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<v Speaker 1>and Yodasuji versus the Knockout Brothers. So we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>ends up winning the World Tag League for those Knockout Brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>but we will know soon enough. So that's the update there.

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<v Speaker 1>John Cena's retirement match coming up on Saturday against Gunther.

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<v Speaker 1>He did a long interview with Tom Renald. He talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of things, including confirming a story I

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of months ago. That story where he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be facing AJ Styles. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was in might have been one of the Saudi Arabia shows.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget where it was, but anyway, he, without telling anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a special John Cena's Style ring announcement for AJ

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<v Speaker 1>that he had. The ring announcer Reid and AJ didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know about it, and apparently Johnson didn't clue anybody in,

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<v Speaker 1>and for some reason he apologized for it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know why, but he did confirm that that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and he also announced that he had signed a five

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<v Speaker 1>year ambassador deal with WWE. He said that I was like, please,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you can do it, I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to be in this family as an employee, as a

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<v Speaker 1>contributing part for as long as I can, but he

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<v Speaker 1>insists he has no plans of ever wrestling again. Physical

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<v Speaker 1>activity one hundred percent. And I very rarely speak at

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<v Speaker 1>absolutes because you never know. I do know in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I can speak in absolutes. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to let people, let the people think that I

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<v Speaker 1>made a promise and then let them down. So he

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<v Speaker 1>actually talked about when Stephanie overheard him rapping on an

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<v Speaker 1>overseas tour which saved his career, which is a true story.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to the second mountain of being an

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<v Speaker 1>ambassador because maybe ambassadorship comes with letting more people know

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<v Speaker 1>to watch this, which was my goal in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe mentorship to talent and that I wouldn't have time

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<v Speaker 1>to spend time with where I can sit and be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>are you really how do I get the wrapping moment

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<v Speaker 1>on the bus? Because I want that guy on TV

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<v Speaker 1>or I want that girl on TV. I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to that stuff. So I don't know how to explain

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<v Speaker 1>this because I don't want people to report this incorrectly.

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<v Speaker 1>But this Saturday Night's main event, John Cena's final match. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in storyline. In storyline, John Cena said, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>this show to be all about me. I want this

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<v Speaker 1>show to also be about giving opportunities to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the people in NXT. So there's going to be NXT

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<v Speaker 1>representation on the show. Okay, that's what he said in storyline.

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<v Speaker 1>On television, I can't say like one hundred percent that

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm about to say is true, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>that he kind of sort of actually did book Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Night's main event. He had. I guess influence would probably

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<v Speaker 1>be the best way to put it. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>the people on the show, you know, Johnson is very like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very into trying to help the young talent get

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<v Speaker 1>them shots. There was a he showed up at I

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<v Speaker 1>think Tyler Breeze's school did a seminar. Yeah, he was there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Bailey did a seminar and he showed up

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<v Speaker 1>to Bailey's seminar as well as she.

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<v Speaker 7>Was doing the seminar at Flatbags.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure was one? I thought it was two,

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<v Speaker 1>like two days in a row, could be anyway. The

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<v Speaker 1>point is, particularly for the Bailey one, this guy showed up. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he stayed there for eight hours. He brought a notebook.

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<v Speaker 1>He watched every single one of the matches. He took

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<v Speaker 1>notes on every single one of the matches, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when the matches were over, he pulled aside every single

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<v Speaker 1>talent to give them personal advice from what he'd seen

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<v Speaker 1>in their matches. He spent the entire day there doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's been NXT several times. He had X number

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<v Speaker 1>of dates obviously that he fulfilled. He wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>another date on NXT television, but I guess his dates

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>were fulfilled. Uh So, anyway, that's why he did that

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<v Speaker 1>tape thing where he chose the competitors for the whatever

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 1>they call that thing, the matches on this this Iron

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<v Speaker 1>Survivor Challenge. So you know, that was his appearance that

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to do, and he did have influence on

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<v Speaker 1>all of the matches for Saturday. So it's John Cena

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<v Speaker 1>versus Gunther. It's Cody Rhoades versus Oba Femi. So it's

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the w w E Champion versus the NXT champion because

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Oba Femi beat Ricky Starks this weekend. It's Bailey versus

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 1>soul Ruka, and it's a j and Dragon Lee versus

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<v Speaker 1>Javon and Leon Slater. So this continues, This continues, this,

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:02.919
<v Speaker 1>this bizarre story of literally every company booking Javon better

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>than NXT. So he's in a prominent position facing the

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<v Speaker 1>WE Tag Team Champions on Saturday's main event.

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<v Speaker 7>Because you guys never mention it, there is no Peacock

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<v Speaker 7>in the rest of the world, so apparently it's on

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<v Speaker 7>YouTube for everyone outside of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, all right, well there you go. Is he gonna

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<v Speaker 1>watch it on YouTube? Youre watching John Cena's final match.

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<v Speaker 7>I certainly want to see how Leon does.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's winning Johnson and Gunther.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm torn now. I was gonna say Sena for sure,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'm wondering if the I'm gonna make you give

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<v Speaker 7>up gives Sena the moral victory when he doesn't get

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<v Speaker 7>up give up and Gunther has to pin him. And

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<v Speaker 7>then because MS is doing such a big deal of

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<v Speaker 7>with a countdown of him wanting things, I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 7>MS comes out at the end to make fun of him,

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 7>and John Cena hits him with the AA and pins

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<v Speaker 7>him and everybody thinks that's a win and we go

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<v Speaker 7>home happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's submitting Gunther with the STF.

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<v Speaker 7>I would not submit Gunter. I think pinning Gunther is fine.

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<v Speaker 7>I would not submit gun through well and jumping ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>I loved Gunther's promo.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's why. I mean, it's so obvious to me

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that that's to finish, because he beat l A Knight

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 1>with that cravat cross face, and he has vowed on

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<v Speaker 1>every show that he is going to do the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that John Cena that no one has ever done

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<v Speaker 1>to John Sena has to make him give up.

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<v Speaker 7>Has he never submitted?

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<v Speaker 1>He's never never, never give up? Brother.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think he's submitted, saying but has he ever

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<v Speaker 7>had that? I don't think he's ever seen was a

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<v Speaker 7>heel early on as a US champion.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's ever submitted. But if he has,

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 1>they're doing the Andre the Giant here. But anyway, I

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's giving up in his last match. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he is going to make because Gunther's gimmick is

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<v Speaker 1>that when things get tough, he gives up. She tapped

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<v Speaker 1>The glance is right in a sense, he did tap

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<v Speaker 1>out to uh Jericho Ben Wah and Kurt Angle twice,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was before his current gimmick of never give

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<v Speaker 1>up John Cena since two thousand and four. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>Johnsena's never submitted.

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<v Speaker 7>So word life John Cena may have some.

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<v Speaker 1>Word life John Cena. The heel gave up, but this

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<v Speaker 1>current baby face never give up John Cena has never quit.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually, the Kurt Angle ones might have been ruthless aggression

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<v Speaker 7>John Cena.

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<v Speaker 1>Could have been yes, all right, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>of wrong?

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<v Speaker 7>It was long? I was a big fan of Gunther's promo.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually wasn't that long. It was the shortest one in months.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only two hours and twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I flew home yesterday, so yesterday was a complete

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<v Speaker 7>wash for me. So I woke up this morning and realized,

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<v Speaker 7>oh crap, I have to watch this show before one pm.

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<v Speaker 7>So I had to try to rush through it. So

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<v Speaker 7>I was a bit impatient.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I did fast forward through a lot of entrances,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I got the show done in about

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes. That was easy.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I did hit the a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of entrances here on this show

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<v Speaker 1>and recap packages. So Nobina with Gunther coming down, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this. He basically did his promo vowing to

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<v Speaker 1>make him give up the one thing you said. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very clever. He says, I'm gonna do the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing you said you would never do. So that's how

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<v Speaker 1>they're getting around this.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he didn't say he's never done it, he just

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<v Speaker 7>said he won't.

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<v Speaker 1>Well ever since two thousand and four he said, I

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<v Speaker 1>will never give up. So I see how they're doing

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>it clever. Then we had Kyrie saying and EO Sky

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>fans were super into EO Sky and they traded some

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>cradles right out of the gate and then went to work,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just it was amazing to watch this

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, Vince would never push foreign talent, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if they couldn't speak English. And you know this EO

0:32:54.400 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>she barely speaks English, like legitimately, you know, Oscar pretends

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>like she can barely speak English, but she actually speaks

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<v Speaker 1>very good English. EO very much struggles. But man, she

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>is so over. She's like I mean, it really depends

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>on the show. Like Riha is maybe the most overwoman

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<v Speaker 1>in WWE, but I'm not sure on this show, probably

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<v Speaker 1>was EO so anyway, Crouch just going crazy for her

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and Oscar tried to interfere and Rheo went after her

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and Kyrie tried to stomp and EO yanked her off

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<v Speaker 1>the top hit the moon salt pinder. This was a

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>great TV match and the heat was awesome. Then Ria

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and EO are going after the tag team titles. Then

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>we had Paul am In meeting with Braun Bronson and

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<v Speaker 1>Logan backstage. Logan has been stewing for a week because

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<v Speaker 1>Ray slapped him and so he wants a match with

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>him tonight. And then we add Ramisio on his way

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<v Speaker 1>to the ring for the match with Finn Balor, Logan

0:33:56.160 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 1>jumped him. He starts beating him down and suddenly the

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<v Speaker 1>mystery hooded Man hit the ring, super kicked Ray, gave

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>him the curb stomp, and zoomed out of there. So

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the Mystery Man was on this show twice, and at

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>this point, to try to throw people off, there are

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>at least two people portraying the Mystery Man. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them was Austin Theory at the pay per view and

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>on this show. I don't know if it was a

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>different guy in both appearances, or if one of them

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>was Theory, and one of them was somebody else, but

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<v Speaker 1>particularly the guy at the end of the show looked

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>like he was moving a little different. But anyway, I

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>think I think the other guy is Montese Ford, but

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot confirm that.

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<v Speaker 7>But yes, I just noticed that there was some women

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<v Speaker 7>online commenting that one of the Mass men had a

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<v Speaker 7>must mic. I must a much nicer, but I can't

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<v Speaker 7>even say it.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that? Well, now you can try to decide

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<v Speaker 1>which which which man had the better butt, the first

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Mask guy or the second Mass guy. So La Knight's

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>music gets he runs down to make the save. This

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>sets up La Knight and Logan Paul for the main event,

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and this l A Knight also Holy smokes with this

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<v Speaker 1>guy over and then he got beat down. AJ and

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Dragon levers as the war Raiders. I thought this was

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:33.439
<v Speaker 1>a very good match and a very good title match.

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<v Speaker 1>They did have a hilariously triple botch which you rarely see,

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>which was Dragon trying to lift up Eric actually was

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Ivory tried a bigger guy and he and he slipped

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and fell down. So he just tries to do it

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>again and he slips and he falls down. But you know,

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>what they say, third times a charm. He goes for

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<v Speaker 1>the third one, but you can just see ivartisides, I'm

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna ump as hard as I can. I'm just bumping,

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>but he jumps too high, and so Dragon loses his

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>balance a third time and then just acts like he

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 1>hit the move. So uh, crowd was polite. Got to

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>give him that. And then at the end, AJ and

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Eric have a striking battle. AJ gives Ivar a top

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>rope Frankensteiner sitting him into Eric. Eric bumps outside, Dragon

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>dives onto Eric, Aj hits for him on Ivar gets

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the pin. Very good match. And then the New Day

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>who were at ringside, who are now called New Gooday,

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 1>you know you didn't notice that it's actually clever. They're

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>there at ringside and they get in the ring and

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>they want a shot against Dragon and Aj. But who

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>should come out but Jimmy and Jay and they do

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the whole yeating entrance, They do the whole encore and

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>then they announce we are back in the tag team division.

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<v Speaker 7>Did they file the paperwork? Remember when you had to

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 7>file paperwork?

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, Vince's gone, so I guess you don't have to

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>file paperwork. He keeps all that on his phone. But

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>they are back in the tag team division and they

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>want to go through the New Day to get to

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>AJ and Dragon. So I'd say it's good for now

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that Jay and Jimmy are back as a tag team.

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, Jay's just like failing repeatedly in that world

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>title scene, and it's not his time, So put him

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>back here, let him get some tag title wins or whatever,

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>break him up, whatever you want to do, but they

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>need something different for a while.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 7>With Jimmy putting over that they're doing it because of

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.439
<v Speaker 7>all the l's Jay took. I'm assuming the split's coming

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:38.439
<v Speaker 7>sooner rather than later.

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>It could be, It could be maybe they can try

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>again at WrestleMania, see if they can have a better mansion.

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Last time Stephanie did a promo, I think I finally

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>figured out what's going on here. Stephanie is in the

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>ring for a promo and Nicky comes out and demands

0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a rematch. Before stephan he can respond, Raquel comes down,

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 1>yanks Nicki off the apron lawn, darts her into the post,

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and leaves her laying like a total geek, and then

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>she demands a match with Stephanie. So I think what's

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>going to happen is whenever the Stephanie Raquel match takes place,

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I think Nicky is going to return and she's going

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>to be managing somebody that's going to screw Raquel, because

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the idea is Nicky's going to become a manager,

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>which I think is probably a much better role for

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>her than in ring wrestler. At this point, at a

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Judgment Day promo, Lives like a Raquel, what were you

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>doing out there? And Roquel goes, I wanted to shot

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>NICKI ruined my other shot, so I had to take

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>her out. And Liv goes, well, you didn't say anything,

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>and Roquel says I didn't need I didn't think I

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>needed to tell you everything, and Liv goes, well you don't.

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Good luck. So it's all awkward and Raquel leaves and

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>then Live says well, Roxanne, I'm gonna be in your

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>corner tonight, and Roxanne goes, well, that's fine, but why

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and Liv goes, well, Raquel's going for the world title.

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>That means we're going for the tag team titles. I

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna screw Raquel down the road here, but

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>we shall see Roxanne and Lyra. I thought this match

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:28.320
<v Speaker 1>was fine. I thought the finish was very overcomplicated and

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 1>also just really didn't work out very well. So Live

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>jumps up on the apron, Roxanne rakes her eyes, Bailey

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>takes out Live, Roxanne takes out Bailey. Live is laying

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>on the apron, just laying there dead. So Roxanne shoves

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Lyra into the ropes and I don't know if liv

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>playing dead had her eyes closed and wasn't paying attention,

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>but she's supposed to kick Lyra, but it was like

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>she forgot and so his face is right there. And

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>then Live finally remembers that she throws her foot and

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 1>she barely gets her and then uh, rox Sand hits

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<v Speaker 1>pop Rocks for the pin. I didn't like the finish.

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought they're wrestling itself was all.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, little rough on the finish.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know, there's a lesson in this match

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to talk about because when I wrestled Lance,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do a lot of dives and I was

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.319
<v Speaker 1>a little guy. Little guys should do dives, but the

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>issue was I didn't trust anybody. So the only time

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>that I ever did dives was when we would do

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a multi person match, and there was like a bunch

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 1>of guys outside, like big dudes, and I would dive

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.439
<v Speaker 1>off the post on a high cross and they would

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.240
<v Speaker 1>all catch me and then they would all fall down.

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<v Speaker 1>It was preposterous, Okay, the idea that I could take

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<v Speaker 1>out like five grown man the size of Sonny O.

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Mary's like three hundred and forty pounds, Like I'm diving

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<v Speaker 1>onto one thousand pounds of humanity and they all fall down.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous, Okay. It always gotta pop every single time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was watching this match after watching you know

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that Order for match for example, and all these crazy

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>matches you see with will Ospray and Ricochet, all these

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.240
<v Speaker 1>guys doing this crazy stuff. And Neon almost killed himself

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in Arena Mexico this weekend. There's like some crazy thing

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>that happens. Lyra goes up top and she hits a

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<v Speaker 1>high cross. She just jumps and does a crossbody, the easiest,

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>easiest move you can do, and man, this place went nuts.

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't the only time on this show. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else did a high cross too, And it's such an easy,

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 1>simple move. It's so easy to catch because you're going sideways.

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>And the person just catches you. It's not like that

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 1>knees coming to your face or there are butts coming

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>to your face or whatever. And man, this crowd goes

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 1>wild for the high cross. And I'm just watching this thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at some point this week, somebody is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do a really really crazy dive and they're gonna put

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>their lives in danger, or they're gonna put their opponent's

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.359
<v Speaker 1>life in danger, and it's gonna get the exact same

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:13.959
<v Speaker 1>reaction that a simple high cross will get in twenty

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. So I think people need to do more

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>of those, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 7>A traditional high cross body is so one of the

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<v Speaker 7>prettiest things you can do. Yes, and doing simple things

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<v Speaker 7>excellently is better than doing complicated things. Okay, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So then the main event was Logan Paul and La

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<v Speaker 1>Night and this match was okay, but you know, Logan

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>is now having to do matches where you set it

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.359
<v Speaker 1>up in the afternoon. He's not at the performance center,

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.800
<v Speaker 1>he's not practicing and memorizing, and the matches are still fine,

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but you can see that, like he's still a green worker.

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>And La was like calling this whole match, He's like

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>yelling spots at him. Was like John Cena match and

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.720
<v Speaker 1>they pulled it off fine, but they had ab outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the end after Braun and Bronson got ejected and

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>once again the mystery man shows up. He stomps La

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Knights headed to the table and Logan hits a frog

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>splash gets the pin. We have eight minutes left of television.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what could possibly be next?

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 7>I don't think beat him and beat him and beat

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<v Speaker 7>him and beat him.

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>All comes out and he cuts a promo about how

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Broun's gonna win the title from Punk at the Raw

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>one year anniversary show. Braun then takes the mic and

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:28.800
<v Speaker 1>does another long promo, which was fine, it was not

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 1>as good as last week. He vows to take out Punk.

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 1>He wants the old Punk to show up, not this happy,

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 1>good guy Punk. He hates that guy. He wants the

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 1>guy who used to be the greatest wrestler whoever laced

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:42.400
<v Speaker 1>up a pair of boots to be his opponent. And

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to get over the chant spear one two three,

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>but no one's doing it, and so then they cut

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>backstage and La is trying to get up off the

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:57.399
<v Speaker 1>backboard and Braun and Bronson. I'm sorry. Bronson and Logan

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>go back up. They go back there, and man, they

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>killed this guy like five minutes. They beat him up,

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>They beat him up, they beat him up, they beat

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>him up, they beat him up some more. They beat

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:08.759
<v Speaker 1>him security, they beat him up, They take him onto

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:12.479
<v Speaker 1>a car, He gets the splash off some boxes onto

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the roof of a car. I mean they left this

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>guy for dead. My presumption is he's gone and then

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>returns to Costa Braun the match with Cmpunk, because I

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.879
<v Speaker 1>don't think Braun's winning that match, but I will say

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 1>the way they did this promo and Paul Hayman and

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.719
<v Speaker 1>the chant and everything, I mean, he's gonna win this

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 1>belt at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the question is with you are listening to

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez and Mike semperviv on

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.880
<v Speaker 2>the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>So barrely, Gunther also submitted a dragonov in an XT.

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 1>That's another one. So he is prone to quitting this

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Gunther Wow, unlike John Cena, who never gives up.

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 7>You know that's to be submitted four times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be the finish. It's just gotta be right. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>So a little bit more on the mask guy. Everyone

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 1>does think it's Montes, the guy that showed up on

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>on a raw And I'll just say this for whatever

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:18.879
<v Speaker 1>it's worth, which could be a lot, or it could

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>be a little. Paul Hayman is a really big fan

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 1>of Montes and he's a really big fan of Austin

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 1>theory as well. And whether that means that theory Montes

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>one the other or both end up in the vision,

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that's still to be determined. So just because someone is

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 1>under the mask playing the role doesn't mean they're going

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to be involved in the storyline and be part of

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the vision. But Paul does really like both of those guys,

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and he thinks that they should they're underutilized, and so

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 1>who else They may end up both being in there.

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 7>In theory, it could be two masked men, not one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it could be.

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 2>It could be.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I can tell you is this, neither of

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 1>those mass guys were seth rawlins. In case you were wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, we're gonna wrap it up for today. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you enjoyed all of the barking and roof banging.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be done by tonight, So Lance and I

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<v Speaker 1>will be back on Friday. And actually Lance and I

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:26.320
<v Speaker 1>are going to be doing a live Q and A

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 1>at some point here. We got to figure out the time,

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 1>but I want to do something special for our platinum

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:35.879
<v Speaker 1>subscribers on YouTube. If you're a Platinum subscriber, we're gonna

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 1>be doing at least one monthly live Q and A,

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 1>whether it's Lance and I or Filthy and I or

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 1>just me. But that's gonna be coming up soon, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you guys know as as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's it. Thanks Lance. As always, Callers and listeners

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<v Speaker 1>ever to the studio. We'll talk to you next time

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