1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Friday edition of Clay and Buck starts right now. Everybody, 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for being here with us. We have much to 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: discuss with you. Over six thousand bombs have been dropped 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: on Gaza in the aftermath of the mass casualty terror 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: attack perpetrated by Hamas. We'll get into the latest there, 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: including the warning from the State of Israel that over 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: a million Palestinians should evacuate the northern Gaza strip within 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: the next twenty four hours plus. Hamas has called for 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: a global day of rage, and so a lot of 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: counter terrorist units around the world, a lot of major cities, 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: particularly in the West, escalated police presence at a whole 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: range of sites. Down in DC and Capitol Hills, staffers 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: are notified, have been notified about enhanced operations because of 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: the leadership of Hamas again calling for this day of rage. 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Synagogues and places like New York and Florida are some 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: of them are considering shutting down today or they have 19 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: additional security procedures in place. We want to talk to 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: you about that, and then some other news stories on 21 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: the radar Immigrations and Customs Enforcement has put out an 22 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: official number of how many migrants have entered the US 23 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: illegally under the Biden administration up to this point, and 24 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: then something else. The former governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, 25 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: has some thoughts on what Democrats are trying to do 26 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: in well pretty much every city. And we'll talk more 27 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: about this later, but I'm coming to you actually from 28 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: South Bend, Indiana right now. Clay, here's the situation. The 29 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: first of all, we're on a bit of a high 30 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: alert here in a lot of places. The major cities 31 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: that have been traditional targets of care in the past, 32 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: New York, Washington, d C. Obviously, the American Jewish community 33 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: particularly concerned on. 34 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 3: The day of Rage. 35 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the IDF, with its three hundred thousand reservists who 36 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: have been called up, are it seems about to go 37 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: into a ground campaign to clear Gaza out of Hamas 38 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: elements as thoroughly as it can capture kill missions all 39 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: over Gaza. So we'll we'll see as that unfolds. It 40 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: is likely to be a difficult campaign that will take days, 41 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: perhaps weeks. But in the meantime, Clay A reminder that 42 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: there are still elements of the global jihad all over 43 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: the world, and it's bringing me back to my days 44 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: in NYPD Intelligence and the CIA's Counter Terrorism Center. We're 45 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: all feeling a bit of a state of alert, a 46 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: state of anxiousness at the possibility of some kind of 47 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: solidarity attacks, follow on attax, copycats, those sorts of things. 48 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on the phone buck this morning and 49 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: I talked to a couple of different friends who have 50 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: kids that have tend Jewish schools on the East Coast, 51 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: both in New York and in Florida, and they have 52 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: got right now added security that are standing outside of 53 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: those schools because of concerns that with what's going on 54 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: in Gaza and what's going on in Israel and the 55 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: potential call for violence around the world in the United States, 56 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: that Jewish schools could be targeted. And one of my 57 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: guys that I talked to this morning said when his 58 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: wife drove by, there was a soldier with a machine 59 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: gun standing outside of the school. I talked to a 60 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: couple of people in Florida who are friends that have 61 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: kids go to Jewish schools. They said that they have 62 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: extra security that is outside of those schools to get 63 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: ready for anything that might occur. And I saw someone 64 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: tweeting earlier today that good credit to him. I'm sure 65 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: that there are other governors around the country doing this, 66 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: but I saw it in particular that Ron DeSantis had 67 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: put police officers ensured that police officers in Florida were 68 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: sitting outside of Jewish schools today with added security. Do 69 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: you ever wonder who's. 70 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: The good guys? 71 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: It's not the people that are forcing Jewish schools all 72 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: over America to have more security than they ordinarily would. 73 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: And these schools oftentimes are even more secured than certainly 74 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 1: any schools on average are all over the country because 75 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: of concerns about anti Semitism. And I used to think 76 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: that we were all kind of a lied buck in 77 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: believing that discriminating against Jewish people is awful and indefensible. 78 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: And I bet you. 79 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: And certainly I did growing up, and then I went 80 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: to a school with a huge Jewish population. 81 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: At GW, the. 82 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: Amount of time that we spent studying the Holocaust was 83 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: pretty substantial, and from an age of you know, ten, eleven, 84 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: twelve years old, all the way through college, it was 85 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: a huge part of the instruction I think of anybody 86 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: who went to school in that era. 87 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: And the number one. 88 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: Question, you know, we got to ask, Buck, how can 89 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: this have ever happened? How in relatively civilized times, nineteen 90 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: forties not that long ago. A lot of people out 91 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: there have friends and family members who were born in 92 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: the nineteen forties who remember World War Two in the Holocaust? 93 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: How can this have ever happened in living memory? And 94 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: I heard call you this, Buck, But what's happening now? 95 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: I could see, because there's lots of people who have 96 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: evil in their hearts and will move when given the 97 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to endorse and react to that evil as it 98 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: pertains to how Jewish people are treated. 99 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and anti Semitism has been around a lot longer 100 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: as you know, going back really thousands of years at 101 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: this point, whether you're talking about pograms or the expulsion 102 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: of Jews from Spain or I mean, there's so many 103 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: periods all throughout history. We are most familiar with the 104 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: last one hundred years or so of anti Semitism. But 105 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: to your point, we live in a time where one 106 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: of the one of the things that is you are 107 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: most unified about. We're supposed to be most unified about 108 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: in the West is the hatred, the discrimination against people 109 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: for innate, immutable central characteristics. Right, so we know in 110 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: the West, is there a greater crime than racism, for example, 111 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: on our society, And we're all united on this, and 112 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: yet on the issue of anti Semitis, and what we've 113 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: seen here is a whole range of either outright support 114 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: for it, which I think has been particularly jarring and 115 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: horrifying to people given what just happened in Israel a 116 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: few days ago, and then also a lot of well, 117 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: I don't support Hamas, but I also support the Palestinian cause, 118 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: and I you know this or on the one hand, 119 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: on the other hand, I mean, I can assure you 120 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: that as Israel is preparing here for this major ground invasion, 121 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: and it's going to be a difficult, bloody and ugly process. 122 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: As all wars are, there will be civilian casualties. Israelis 123 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: will try to limit those to their greatest ability, as 124 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: they always do. If Israel wanted to, I mean, this 125 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: is I think sometimes worth setting as the expectations or 126 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: the outer sort of framework of this discussion. If Israel 127 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: wanted to level the entirety of Gaza, I mean every 128 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: single structure that exists there it could do, so it's 129 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: not going to do so because it's going to go 130 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: after Hamas and militant elements. So if the roles were reversed, however, 131 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: as we know, if Hamas were in a place where 132 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: it could destroy the entirety of Tel Aviv, Hamas would 133 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: do so and think that it was righteous in the cause. 134 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: So there's no moral equivalency to be had between the 135 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: two sides in this conflict. But I do think we're 136 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 2: going to see in the days ahead are a lot 137 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: of people who have been perhaps a little quiet or 138 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: even a little supportive, but a little quiet about the 139 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: atrocity that Hamas, the mass atrocity that Hamas committed, and 140 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: then they're going to switch to all of a sudden 141 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: every casualty, including those that are induced by Hamas. Hamas, 142 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: as we know, wants there to be more civilian casualties, 143 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: wants there to be more quote martyrs in this process. 144 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: Be a lot of people here at home in the 145 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 2: West in America who say, see Israel. 146 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: Is doing what it always does. 147 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: It overreacts or Israel is not using commensurate force for 148 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: what happens here. So you're going to hear some of 149 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: that in the days ahead. And I think right now, you. 150 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: Know, people are just on edge. 151 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: Clay in general, I'm not a superstitious person, but it 152 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: is Friday the thirteenth, as we know, a day of 153 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: rage has been called for. There have been some violent riots, 154 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: and there have been some violent attacks, but nothing on 155 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: a mass. 156 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: Terror scale yet today. 157 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 2: But the world is on edge, and I think it's 158 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: in large part because we've been reminded by Hamas of 159 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: the depth of evil that does exist in this world, 160 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: and it's willingness to or its ability to be unleashed 161 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: at a moment's notice. 162 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 163 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: And what I would say in general is, certainly you 164 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: should always be aware of your surroundings. But I think 165 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: if you change your behavior for fear of being a 166 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: victim of terror, than you are in many ways allowing 167 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: the terrorists to win, because what they want to do 168 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: is change our behavior and attack the freedoms that make 169 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: America the greatest country that's ever existed in the history 170 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: of the world. And so I understand there's a lot 171 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: of apprehension, there's a lot of nervousness. I just said, 172 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: I think it's smart to have added security at Jewish 173 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,479 Speaker 1: schools for instance, right now. I would keep that security 174 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: for probably months into the future, because I don't think 175 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: this is going to be fast, and I think everybody 176 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: out there needs to prepare themselves, Buck, as you just said, 177 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 1: as we prepare for Israel to really go in to 178 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: Gaza and go after Hamas in an aggressive way, prepare 179 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: yourselves for the likes of viral disinformation that you may 180 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: have never seen before, because there is going to be 181 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: this moral equivalency of oh, well, these young babies got 182 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: killed in Israel, and now look at what's happened with 183 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: the bombing. This is a young child that died in Palestine. 184 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: These are her parents. 185 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: It's awful. 186 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: War is hell, as I believe William Sherman said succinctly 187 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: back in the days of the Civil War. But when 188 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: you start a war, you don't then get to run 189 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: and hide and blame the other side for the consequences 190 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: of you starting this war. Hamas made this decision. I 191 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: think they made the decision to a large extent, Buck, 192 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: and I haven't seen this discussed a lot to try 193 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: to end normalization of relations that were appeared to be 194 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: close between Israel and Saudi Arabia, and now that's on hold, 195 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: and it seems unlikely that that's gonna happen anytime soon. 196 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't think the timing on this is coincidental, but 197 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: prepare yourself for an onslaught of social media. Look look 198 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: at what the Jews did. They're awful. The Palestinians are 199 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: the real victims. And I don't think this is going 200 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: away anytime soon because I think we've allowed this victim culture, 201 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: this anti colonization concept. Let me just say this, I mean, 202 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: I bet you would agree with me, bucket. Maybe this 203 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: is a longer form discussion. Western civilization and colonization in 204 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: general have benefited people around the world. 205 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: Like, I don't even buy into. 206 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: The idea that the idea of colonies back in the 207 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: day somehow made everything worse for the people who were 208 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: living in those colonies. I think Western civilization in general, 209 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: was it certainly imperfect. Were there mass casualty events, deaths, yes, 210 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: But on some total, the value of the civilization brought 211 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: to bear in many of these societies exceeds what the 212 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: cost was. And it's like, you can't even say that anymore. 213 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: In many parts of academia, and. 214 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: It brings me back to something else you won't often 215 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 2: hear people talk about, but that is the history of 216 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: Islam is a history of colonial conquest as well. It's 217 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: just colonial conquest under the banner of a crescent moon 218 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: and a religious belief. But there's a whole bunch of 219 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: the region, you know, where the Palacidians are now used 220 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: to be something called the Byzantine Empire. 221 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: It used to be Christian. 222 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: In fact, there are some very famous mosques now that 223 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: used to be Eastern Orthodox Christian cathedrals. So if we're 224 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: going to do this historical claim to land thing, I 225 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: think we might want to be a little bit more 226 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: precise in our history. And if we're going to talk 227 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: about expansionist powers and colonialism, you'll have to explain what 228 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: exactly was going on in this part of the world 229 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: in the eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh centuries and so on. 230 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: So but most importantly for right now, we're just hoping 231 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: that today passes without major incident here in the West 232 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: at home in America. And also clay that the Israeli operation, 233 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: which is as just as any just war could be, 234 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: is efficient, is fast, minimizes civilian casualties, and captures or 235 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 2: kills Hamas fighters in Hamas leadership, which is the stated 236 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: goal of Benjamin at Yahoo and the Israeli State. Want 237 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: to take some of your calls on this as well, 238 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: and I'll learned. I'd say I reiterate with Clay. I mean, 239 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: I used to do counter terrorism for a living. Don't 240 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: be afraid, you know, be smart, but don't be afraid 241 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: is always the way to approach this. 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Appreciate all 267 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. 268 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: Buck. 269 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: I saw this and I wanted to read it quickly. 270 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: This is a guy named Michael Schwartz. He is a 271 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: Harvard one of both the undergrad and the law school. 272 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: This is only a couple of paragraphs, but I know 273 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: many of you out there listening right now who've attended schools, colleges, 274 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: universities around the country have been really taken aback by 275 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: the number of students that have been protesting in favor 276 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: of the Hamas terrorists, and also of the cowardice of 277 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: many different institutions. 278 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: And I love this book. I wanted to read it. 279 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: I graduated from the place that used to be Harvard 280 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: College in the class of nineteen sixty three, and the 281 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: place that used to be Harvard Law School in nineteen 282 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: sixty seven. I don't wish to have even the slightest 283 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: affiliation with the debased and corrupt institutions that now bear 284 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: their names. The university's disgraceful silence in the face of 285 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: the barbarism in southern Israel is a blot that will 286 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: never be expunged. You have turned your back on the 287 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: civilization it was your mission to preserve and defend. 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Find other places more deserving of 298 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: your money, and and and and vote with your cash 299 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: in terms of what you approve of and don't approve 300 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: of at the university. 301 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: It has been surprising, even having witnessed myself some of 302 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: these pro Palestinian protests in the past. Now remember that 303 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: was at different times, not right after a mass casualty 304 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: terrorist attack of the brutality and savagery that we just saw, 305 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: but even still I'm surprised at how large some of 306 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: these pro. 307 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 3: Let's be clear, the really pro Hamas protests. 308 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: That's what this is, you know, when they're talking about 309 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: the Intifada and the struggle and all this stuff. 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You are hearing 335 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: people who were, perhaps depending on who we're talking about, 336 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: a little muted in their criticism of the atrocity that 337 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: Hamas committed against men, women, children, tiny babies in Israel. 338 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 2: But now you're seeing people that are speaking out against 339 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: the response and I've always said this, this brings me 340 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: back to the nine to eleven era as well, that 341 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: there are people in this country. There are those who 342 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: are the I would call them, the enemies of civilization, 343 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 2: who think that the problem is not the terrorism, it 344 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: is the fighting against terrorism that we should be on 345 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: guard against. Right, That's something that you can go back 346 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: and see. Has been a consistent and repeated debate around 347 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: these kinds of issues, whether it was with ISIS or 348 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: al Qaeda, or you name it. Hamas obviously now as well, 349 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: this has been an issue in the past too. 350 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 3: Remember Hamas. 351 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: The reason they built this billion dollar barrier is in 352 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: what's called the Second Intifada in the early two thousands, 353 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: Hamas just was infiltrating suicide bombers into as many places 354 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: as possible for maximum civilian casualties, going to birthday parties, 355 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: bus going into bus terminals, going into anywhere where they 356 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: could have a concentration people. So that heinousness had to stop. 357 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: So they built the wall and the security barrier. Now 358 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: we're seeing the beginnings of the Israeli response to this, 359 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: the military response with the air strikes. Now thousands of 360 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: air strikes or thousands of munitions have already been dropped. 361 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: We think the ground invasion could happen in a matter 362 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: of well certainly days, perhaps even hours of speaking to you. Meanwhile, 363 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: here we have over at the view they're warning us, 364 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: or at least Sunny Hostia is telling us about the 365 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: Israeli war crimes. 366 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 4: Play it retaliation against innocent civilians collectively is also terror, 367 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: and it is also a war crime. And again those 368 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: are not my words. Those are the words of the 369 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 4: law attacking Israel. 370 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: But the reason that they have a job. 371 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 5: What Israel is saying consistently is if you want your water, 372 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 5: if you want your electricity, release our hostages. In my view, 373 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: that's not an irrational question, and that's not an irrational demand. 374 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 5: Release our people that you are holding and shield. 375 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: And they should we in the process, they should really 376 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 4: refrain from committing war crimes. 377 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: I don't think the Israelies need a lecture on war 378 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: crimes from Sunny Hostain and Navarrow actually sounding more sensible 379 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: there than I would have anticipated, understanding that I mean 380 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: they've taken hostages. There's all laws of war, all Geneva 381 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: Convention agreements at Clay, every aspect of I mean basic 382 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: human morality has already been cast off by Hamas. Yeah, 383 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm fired up on this, Buck, in terms of the 384 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 2: way that people like Sonny Hasten are speaking out and 385 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: if Sonny Houston were actually willing to have a conversation 386 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: with people who have IQs of over one hundred and 387 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: she came onto this show for example. 388 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not just picking on Sonny Houston because I 389 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: think her worldview is far too predominant in left wing 390 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: media today. Buck, what would Sonny Houston say if there 391 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: were rallies on campuses in the week after George Floyd 392 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: was dead led by student groups saying that BLM was 393 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: a terrorist organization, what would her response have been? She 394 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: would have won of them all expelled, That's right. She 395 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: would have immediately gone on the view. She would have 396 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: demanded that any student who appeared at that rally be 397 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: immediately expelled from the university. And now she is defending 398 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: the rights of Hamas, and I mean of Hamas and 399 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: students to argue that Hamas is being treated unfairly. And again, 400 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: this is in the week in which this assault has occurred. 401 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: And I want all of you out there to pay 402 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: attention to this because to me, This goes to the 403 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: essence of the rotten core of the left in this country. 404 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: They would not allow anybody to say a word about 405 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: George Floyd's past. You couldn't even bring up the fact 406 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: that George Floyd was a felon, or that he was 407 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: on drugs or Buck that there's really still never been 408 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: any indication that George Floyd died because he was black. Right, 409 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: There's never been any indication. I've never seen any report. 410 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: Maybe I've missed it, that there were racial slurs yelled 411 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: at him, or that the officers involved when George Floyd 412 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: died did that to him because he was black. Buck, 413 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: We've talked and shared stories of white guys who have 414 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: ended up getting shot and killed. That one video which 415 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: is hard to watch, of the person in the hotel hallway, 416 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: remember where like it basically looks like a public execution. 417 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: Daniel Shaver I wrote about this when it happened. It 418 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: was in Arizona some years ago. 419 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, looks like a public education execution. Almost no one 420 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: talks about it. I'm not saying police are perfect, They're 421 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: clearly flawed their humans like everybody else. But if you 422 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: had said any of that and you were a college 423 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: kid or you had shown up and you had said, Hey, 424 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: I think BLM's actually going to be ultimately destructive to 425 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: the safety of many different minority groups. I think it's 426 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: tearing down many different relationships in the United States. I 427 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: think this group is a terrorist organization, and I don't 428 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: think we should be supporting BLM. 429 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: She would have demanded that. 430 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: Every single student who showed up at that protest be 431 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: immediately expelled from the university. And you know what, Buck, 432 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: I think any student who showed up at a protest like 433 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: that on a university in the week when George Floyd 434 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: died would have immediately been expelled immediately. Now, I would 435 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: have disagreed with that, because I think college kids should 436 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to show up and say stupid things. 437 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: So I was gonna say, I mean, you know, the 438 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: principal here though, is yes. And this is where it's 439 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 2: interesting to me. Campus is I'm sure, if pushed on this, 440 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: if the president of filling the blank university, I mean, 441 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: I'm right here in South Bend. I don't think there's 442 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: a lot of this going on of Notre Dame. Yeah, 443 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any of it going on in 444 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. 445 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 446 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: But if if the university president was pushed, I'm sure 447 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: he or she would say, while we don't condone what's 448 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: being said, it is free speech. But to your point 449 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 2: that free speech principle by these schools would certainly not 450 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: be extended to the death of George Floyd and people 451 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: saying he died of you know, basically if ventanol in 452 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: his system plus hyperventilation plus heart failure, you know, you 453 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: couldn't if. 454 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: You were you couldn't have had a rally on campus 455 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: that just said, buck George Floyd is not a hero, 456 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: not even to attack BLM. You couldn't have had a 457 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: rally in the week after George Floyd died on any 458 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: campus in America and said George Floyd is not a martyr, 459 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: He's not a hero. You would have immediately been expelled 460 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: from the university. I think there would have been schools 461 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 1: that would have taken action. I would wonder if they 462 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: would go so far as to expel There also would 463 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: have been Antifa style violence against people that were taking 464 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: that isn't interesting. You don't see that these big pro 465 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: hamas rallies that are going on the people that opposed it, 466 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: also oppose it with words. 467 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: I mean, they're very upset, understandably so, but they're not 468 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: showing up and you know, throwing rocks and bottles and 469 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: hitting people with clubs and. 470 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Buck Every student who showed up at that rally, that 471 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: just George Floyd is not a hero. We're going to 472 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: have a rally. George Floyd is not a hero. Every 473 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: student that showed up at that would have been immediately docks. 474 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: That is, their pictures would have been widely distributed, Every 475 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: bit of their biography would have been out there. There 476 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: would have been a demand that they never be hired. 477 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: And I really do believe most universities in America would 478 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: have expelled them. I do, and so I look, if 479 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: the standard is going to be what the standard I 480 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: think should be. College kids say and do stupid things 481 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: on campus, but we should try to educate them. 482 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 3: We shouldn't be trying to cancel them. We shouldn't be 483 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 3: trying to kick them out. 484 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: My point is the Sonny Hostins of the world don't 485 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: have a principled stand. They don't stand for free speech. 486 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: They want people they disagree with canceled. They don't want 487 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: them to be able to have jobs, they don't want 488 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: them to be able to go to schools. And for 489 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: the people that they agree with, it doesn't matter how 490 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: offensive the speech might be, they will defend it. 491 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: That is everything that is wrong. 492 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: I believe with the foundation of the left in this country, 493 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: and bucket used to be that the ACLU would support 494 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: Nazis marching and Skokiel, and not because they supported the Nazis, 495 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: but because they believed that free speech should be the 496 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,479 Speaker 1: principle of all upon which all of American life is founded. 497 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: What the left has engaged in for a long time, 498 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: or is really central to the psychological and and ethical 499 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: makeup of the left in America and really the left 500 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: as a political entity in general around the world, is 501 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: moral relativity and situational ethics. Yes, it's it's true in 502 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: this case because I want it to be. It's not 503 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 2: true in that case because I don't want it to be. 504 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: And everything else is really just noise and talking points. 505 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: So this is what we see on this issue, along 506 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: with so many others. Eight under two eight two two 507 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: eight a two. If you've been surprised by what you've 508 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: seen on campus, or if you want to weigh in 509 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: on just how some in the media are have been 510 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: responding to this incident to also, I think it's worth noting, 511 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: and we'll get into this in a second. There in 512 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: some places that have been very strong on this, that 513 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: you or that are not conservative, that are not right wing, 514 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: they're not even center politically, that have actually come out 515 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: and condemned very aggressively what happened. And it's that moral 516 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: clarity is at some level reassuring despite all the craziness 517 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: that we're seeing from some others. So we'll get into that. 518 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: Eight hundred two A two two eight eight two. Start 519 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 2: earning high yield returns in a low yield market by 520 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: investing in Phoenix Capital Group's corporate bonds. 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Visit phx on air dot com today 536 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: for more information. 537 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do 538 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: a lot of it with the Sunday hang Join Clay 539 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: and Buck as they laugh it up in the Clay 540 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 541 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck 542 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 543 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Sonny Houston may have said something even dumber than what 544 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: she said yesterday, and word, that's just a tease, because 545 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: that is not going to stun any of you. That 546 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: it could be so incredibly stupid, But we're going to 547 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: play that for you in the next hour or so. 548 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: It's Friday, edition of the program eight hundred and two 549 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: two two eight A two. You guys can weigh in 550 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: on a variety of different topics. Buck, we should mention, 551 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: and we have not so far, that the Speaker of 552 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: the House battle is ongoing, and there are now two 553 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: candidates I believe that are there, and I want to 554 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: make sure Austin Scott. I do not know Austin Scott. 555 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: Do you know Austin Scott Buck, No, he is now 556 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: running to be speaker as well. Yesterday Steve Scalise dropped out. 557 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, who we thought and have said from the 558 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: moment this all started is likely to be the next speaker, 559 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: is still in the mix as well. So we will 560 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: see whether or not that is going to continue to 561 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: play itself out, or whether we're going to get any 562 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: resolution today. I will say, with everything going on in Moss, 563 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: with Israel and everything else associated with that, Buck, the 564 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: speaker thing would have be receiving a ton of attention. 565 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: I get the sense people don't really care given all 566 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: the attention on Israel right now. 567 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: I don't. 568 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you have to really care a lot about 569 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: politics right now to care about who the Speaker of 570 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: the House is. Going to be going into a presidential 571 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: election year where not a single piece of major legislation 572 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: is going to get done. Nothing is really going to change. 573 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: The Congress is divided. Democrats have the Senate, Democrats have 574 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: the White House. So it's interesting to the political nerds, 575 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: which and I say that with love, it's interesting those 576 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: who are really fixated on this stuff. I mean, I 577 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: would hope that I'm in that category two. But I 578 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: mean I would ask anybody who anybody who is who 579 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: really thinks it's a major story. I would The question 580 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: I would pose is what's the difference if it's Jim 581 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: Jordan or if it's I mean, look, Jim Jordan would 582 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: be my choice. 583 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: We all we like Jim Jordan here on the show 584 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: a lot. 585 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: But if it's one of these other possible case, as 586 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: long as it's a Republican which I've said all along, 587 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: I think that's that's clearly going to be the case. 588 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: The real long term difference is pretty minimal. And the 589 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: ousto of McCarthy as well, you know, he did some 590 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: good things initially, and there's certainly the House oversight on 591 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: the Republican side has been very useful in getting the 592 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 2: truth out about the Biden crime family. But we do 593 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: need to stay within the art of the possible, or 594 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 2: perhaps we do need a reality check. It's not like 595 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: if we had a great speaker, there'd be all this 596 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: amazing legislation that would be happening, and the debt would 597 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: be under control, or you know, the deficit would be 598 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: under control. You know, this is a little bit of 599 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: insider baseball stuff. This is really just about power struggles 600 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill within the Republican Party and the future 601 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: of it, the leadership of it, stuff like that. It 602 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: doesn't really you know, the next twelve months. I don't 603 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: think it makes all that much difference which Republican is 604 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: Speaker of the House. 605 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: That's my take on it. 606 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I do think that what's 607 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: going on in Israel has on so much attention. We 608 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: should mention our affiliate in DC one oh four point seven. 609 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: We're going to be in DC Wednesday, Thursday, Friday doing 610 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: live shows next week, so we'll probably get some sort 611 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: of resolution and have some further discussion about this. We've 612 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: got a bunch of people who want to weigh in, 613 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,959 Speaker 1: variety of different callers, and it is Friday, so let's 614 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: take in some of these callers with a lot of 615 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: different subjects. Brian and Kansas starting with you, what's up 616 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: and thanks for listening. 617 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 6: Hey, Megadidos, guys got a question for Buck being the 618 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 6: intelligence guy. You know my reputation, Moussad is one of 619 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 6: the elite intelligence agencies in the world. And my question 620 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 6: is do you think they had no idea this was coming, 621 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 6: or you know, did they just totally fail or you know, 622 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 6: what do you think is going to happen there? And 623 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 6: then on the flip side, what do you think their 624 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 6: capabilities are to get these US leaders that are in 625 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 6: hiding around the world. 626 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: So what you're saying about Massad is is true that 627 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 2: it is considered one of the very best in the world, 628 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: and it is an elite intelligence service with very high 629 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 2: level capabilities. But it also reminds people are saying, how 630 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: could this have happened? Uh, it's clearly an intelligence failure. 631 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: But I'm reminded of what the IRA said about UH 632 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: an attempt. I believe it was an attempt on thatcher, 633 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: which is that they said when they were today, we 634 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: were unlucky. But remember we only have to be lucky once. 635 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 2: You have to be lucky always, which is a pretty 636 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: chilling quote from Terror, you know, from the the terrorist canon, 637 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: if you will. Hamas has been fighting against constant I'm sorry, 638 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 2: Massad has been fighting against Hamas constantly for decks. And 639 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: how this could have slipped by, I mean, I'm not 640 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: familiar with the intelligence warnings they may or may not 641 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 2: have had. Obviously, even if I was back in the agency, 642 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have been able to see any of that. 643 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: But like I said, they only had to plan it 644 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: and execute it one time for this kind of an 645 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: event to occur. I'm sure there'll be a lot of 646 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: after action assessment. I'm sure there'll be changes in practices 647 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 2: and policies, but that will come after the Hamas war 648 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: that they are fighting right now, which is to clear 649 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 2: out cause of Hamas elements. 650 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 3: But I'll continue to. 651 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 2: Think about that one and try to give more context 652 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: and analysis for it. You know, after nine to eleven 653 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 2: we did have an understanding as to how the signals 654 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: were missed. We will eventually, but first Israel has a 655 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 2: wardwind