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Speaker 2: here in a little bit as well. Seaton poll question
Speaker 2: from our one and then what are we going to
Speaker 2: go with an hour two hour one? We got up there?
Speaker 3: How much you think the Steelers are going to regret
Speaker 3: last night's loss? At least sixty two percent of the
Speaker 3: audience have.
Speaker 2: That as a lot.
Speaker 4: They're really going to regret that a.
Speaker 3: Ton I'm putting up one right now, but I need
Speaker 3: help with the over under here. How long do you
Speaker 3: think Kurt Signetti will get into his contract before getting
Speaker 3: a new one over under four years.
Speaker 2: Oh you think he's going to double up and get
Speaker 2: another one in four years?
Speaker 3: Maybe he gets another one, Maybe the contract is no
Speaker 3: longer active. I'm not sure exactly what it is. I'm
Speaker 3: just throwing at these big contracts like that. They never
Speaker 3: go the distance. He's gonna end up beating a bunch
Speaker 3: of people getting into the playoffs again, getting into say
Speaker 3: like the top four there and then later I've done
Speaker 3: thirteen million.
Speaker 2: Sound a little better? Oh okay, I thought we were
Speaker 2: skewing negative that he won't last through the contract.
Speaker 3: Also a possibility, also a very distinct possibility.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, I'm going to root for the best. That
Speaker 2: he's sixty four years of age and what is it
Speaker 2: eight eight years? Yeah, in his contract, I'll root for
Speaker 2: the I'm mister positive today, Yes, Todd, are you going
Speaker 2: to be negative here?
Speaker 5: No, I'm going to.
Speaker 4: I hope he's last, and I hope he stays a
Speaker 4: long time. But it is one of those coaches that
Speaker 4: spends many, many years in Indiana, lives a happy, healthy life,
Speaker 4: a couple of titles.
Speaker 6: All right, Yes, it is really a fascinating week though,
Speaker 6: because Indiana has never been a football school, and this
Speaker 6: is the biggest commitment they've ever made in their history.
Speaker 6: I mean, this is this is like it was like
Speaker 6: you know what, or get off the pot. They said,
Speaker 6: We're going to put all our chips in and keep
Speaker 6: this guy.
Speaker 2: Are they still a basketball school?
Speaker 7: They'd prefer to be a basketball school.
Speaker 6: But currently, if your football coach is making more than
Speaker 6: your basketball coach, you're temporarily a football school.
Speaker 8: Like Indiana, football is having a run right now, right,
Speaker 8: but they're still It's almost like North Carolina.
Speaker 6: It's a basketball state, yes, and it's a basketball college,
Speaker 6: but right now things are going the way of football.
Speaker 4: Is this the only part of the state where football
Speaker 4: is king?
Speaker 2: Probably? Okay, yeah? Probably? By the way to meet for
Speaker 2: we got burgers, meatballs, we got reverse seared Porterhouse steaks.
Speaker 2: We got mashed potatoes, green beans, skillet corn bread. We
Speaker 2: also had a fan named Don who brought some Polish
Speaker 2: sausages from a local butcher.
Speaker 7: Is Don here, Don the sausage Guy, Don.
Speaker 2: The sausage Guy, the sausage King of South Yes, Don
Speaker 2: brought his sausage sausages blural plural plural, Yeah, who is
Speaker 2: it better than we do? Jerome bettas Hall of Famer
Speaker 2: Notre Dame running back, and he's got a lot of
Speaker 2: things that he is working with the Jerome bettas Bus
Speaker 2: Stops Here Foundation. We'll talk to him about that. He's
Speaker 2: also got a holiday toy drive on display as well. Bussy,
Speaker 2: good to talk to you. When I say USC the
Speaker 2: first thing that comes to mind is.
Speaker 9: Hey, we hate USC absolutely.
Speaker 2: More than Michigan.
Speaker 10: Yes, more than Michigan, but it's slightly more me being
Speaker 10: from the state of Michigan. I may have a little
Speaker 10: different opinion, but USC is is our biggest rival, no
Speaker 10: question about it.
Speaker 2: But you did well against USC, then you I never lost.
Speaker 2: I got you in nineteen ninety one, you had two
Speaker 2: touchdowns Notre Dame one by four, and then in ninety
Speaker 2: two you guys won thirty one twenty three. What do
Speaker 2: you remember about those games?
Speaker 10: That they were all, you know, really good games. And
Speaker 10: USC has always been competitive. You know, they had a
Speaker 10: couple of years and they've kind of slid a little bit,
Speaker 10: but it's always you know, that big game. And what
Speaker 10: I always remembered about it is if you play well
Speaker 10: in that game, then everyone in.
Speaker 9: The country knows your name. You know what I mean,
Speaker 9: it's one of those games.
Speaker 10: Where if you can have a big game, you become
Speaker 10: my household name around the country.
Speaker 9: That's the kind of game that it is.
Speaker 2: Did USC recruit you?
Speaker 9: They did? That was the one of the three visits
Speaker 9: that I took. Actually, yes, I took.
Speaker 10: I went to Michigan, USC and Notre Dame and USC
Speaker 10: was just too far away. But I remember seeing uh
Speaker 10: Junior Sea when I was on my visit and he
Speaker 10: had a tank top on and I said, who.
Speaker 9: Is this guy looking like Zeus?
Speaker 2: I said, who is?
Speaker 9: They said, that's what you say, he's going to the NFL.
Speaker 10: And I was just I thought to myself, if that's
Speaker 10: what all the linebackers look like.
Speaker 5: I'm in.
Speaker 2: Uh, those linebackers found out quickly they were in trouble
Speaker 2: when they were trying to tackle you. You did tell
Speaker 2: the story, didn't you have somebody that it almost sounded
Speaker 2: like they were weeping or when when they tried to
Speaker 2: tackle you. Was that in the NFL where I heard
Speaker 2: a little a little little scream or little cry.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: But how often didn't guys make business decisions? You think
Speaker 2: with trying to tackle you?
Speaker 9: A lot in the later part of my career.
Speaker 10: The early part of my career, guys were trying to
Speaker 10: take me on and you know, I, you know, broke
Speaker 10: a guy's shoulder at the play for Baltimore and did this,
Speaker 10: did that, and so a lot of guys later on
Speaker 10: saw the kind of the curnage. I said, Okay, that's
Speaker 10: not for me. And the latter part of my career,
Speaker 10: guys started going to my ankles and in lower extremities.
Speaker 9: They didn't want to take me on a file.
Speaker 2: Okay, but what's the one tackle that somebody got the
Speaker 2: better of you?
Speaker 9: Oh? My goodness?
Speaker 10: Uh the one we were playing a Tennessee Titans and
Speaker 10: Mike thom Zach he threw me the ball late and
Speaker 10: he knew.
Speaker 9: He shouldn't have threw it to me.
Speaker 11: So I go to catch the ball and as soon
Speaker 11: as I catch it, I get I get cracked and
Speaker 11: my head hit the hit the ground first. So you
Speaker 11: know that was a bad one because I'm a big guy.
Speaker 11: In my head usually didn't get there before my butt.
Speaker 2: Where you who hit you?
Speaker 10: I was not concussed, No, And I cannot remember who
Speaker 10: uh the I think his name was Bolden Bolden, but
Speaker 10: he played for Tennessee Titans, and he was he was
Speaker 10: a good linebacker.
Speaker 9: But I should never have had a hit like that
Speaker 9: on me, and uh, I got up.
Speaker 10: I'll never forget went to the I went to the
Speaker 10: huddle and I just looked at my job.
Speaker 2: He was like, sorry, bro, what happened to your Steelers
Speaker 2: last night?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 10: They You know, I think sometimes these things are psychological, right,
Speaker 10: and you hear the what well coach Tomlin says about Flacco, right,
Speaker 10: and then you go out and lay an egg. But
Speaker 10: you have to look at it and say, Joe Flacco
Speaker 10: is a capable quarterback when you don't get pressure on him.
Speaker 10: When you get pressure on him, then you know he
Speaker 10: can make some mistakes. And that's just what the Steelers
Speaker 10: couldn't do last night. They could not get pressure, consistent
Speaker 10: pressure on Joe Flacco. And when you have those receivers
Speaker 10: on that roster, it's gonna be hard for you to
Speaker 10: cover the entire field. And Joe Flacco was hot and
Speaker 10: he sliced the part my Pittsburgh Steelers and didn't look good.
Speaker 2: Okay, but this is what I don't understand. Steelers always
Speaker 2: have great defense and here you are giving up thirty
Speaker 2: points again that I think The big question was receivers,
Speaker 2: running game, Aaron Rodgers offensive line. That doesn't seem like
Speaker 2: it's the problem. It feels like it's defense with this team.
Speaker 9: Yeah, when you score thirty points, you should you should
Speaker 9: win the game.
Speaker 10: I mean that's just how how it works in terms
Speaker 10: of in Pittsburgh, because that defense always shows up and is.
Speaker 9: Ready to play.
Speaker 10: The problem is they're they're just not getting the production,
Speaker 10: uh in that front seven, which is putting the guys
Speaker 10: in the secondary, uh, you know, at risk. They're nobody's
Speaker 10: playing well. Let me say that the back end they're
Speaker 10: not playing particularly well. And the front seven, those guys
Speaker 10: they're not. Uh, they're giving up too much yards in
Speaker 10: the run game. This one thing that still has never
Speaker 10: gave up was one hundred yard rusher. And so to
Speaker 10: see Brown have one hundred yards that was discouraging.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 10: And then to be able to not put Flacco on
Speaker 10: the ground, that was a huge problem.
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin ever yell at you.
Speaker 9: I know I missed Tomlin, so I when I retired.
Speaker 10: Coward was in this last year, okay, uh, and then
Speaker 10: he left and then Tomlin came.
Speaker 9: Uh a year later.
Speaker 2: The coward yell at you yes he did.
Speaker 10: He yelled at everybody, and I mean he was a spinner,
Speaker 10: so you can't understand.
Speaker 2: That was yeah, but wasn't lou Holtz didn't he?
Speaker 9: Yes, I was. I was.
Speaker 10: I was fortunate to have double spinners. But the key,
Speaker 10: the key is don't screw up. So I screw it up,
Speaker 10: very very little I got. I didn't get as much
Speaker 10: that the juice that somebody else got.
Speaker 2: You should have worn the Ladanian Tomlinson shield then you
Speaker 2: could have.
Speaker 9: You know, they weren't out there. You better believe I
Speaker 9: would have had a shield.
Speaker 2: Were you famous when you were on campus here your
Speaker 2: senior year?
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 10: Because so I left after my junior year. And what
Speaker 10: happened was I had a really good sophomore year. So yeah,
Speaker 10: I was maybe a popular, but I wasn't like So
Speaker 10: we had to get rocket Ishmael Now.
Speaker 9: Rocket when I was there, he was a star. Okay,
Speaker 9: they had to They.
Speaker 10: Had to take him out of the hotel in the
Speaker 10: laundry basket type things. I mean, he had that kind
Speaker 10: of people out there looking for him, and he was
Speaker 10: he was a star.
Speaker 2: Hold hold on, Rocket gets in the laundry basket to
Speaker 2: then get out of a hotel to like, yeah, so
Speaker 2: he can.
Speaker 9: They can take him out in the back and put
Speaker 9: him in.
Speaker 10: The car and drive him away so that you know,
Speaker 10: it's got crazy because he couldn't just walk out the front.
Speaker 9: Door, uh type thing.
Speaker 10: You know he was he was a rock star when
Speaker 10: we were at Notre Dame because he had done some
Speaker 10: amazing things. Myself, I was a really good player and
Speaker 10: on you know, on the cusp if you will, and
Speaker 10: everybody knew who I was, but it wasn't the rock
Speaker 10: star uh stype type celebrity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but are you talking to like boy band celebrity
Speaker 2: for rocket ismail Like there were women out, girls outside
Speaker 2: screaming and waiting for really.
Speaker 10: Yes, It's like if he came down the elevator, you
Speaker 10: would see a crowd rush over over there where If I.
Speaker 9: Came down elevator, everybody say, you know, and I do the.
Speaker 10: Way, Hey, if he come down, they would kind of
Speaker 10: rush over there.
Speaker 2: Uh, tell me what you're doing with the Drone Bettis
Speaker 2: bus stops here Foundation.
Speaker 10: Well, we were at the bus stop hir Foundation. We're
Speaker 10: you know, extremely excited about our cyber bus program.
Speaker 9: We've got our second bus that.
Speaker 10: We've been very fortunate Bluebird donated uh a new electric
Speaker 10: bus to us. We got it retrofitted thanks to the
Speaker 10: CEXT Foundation, and now we've got we've got it ready
Speaker 10: and prepared to go to the rural areas of Pittsburgh,
Speaker 10: Washington County, all those areas where there's kids that that
Speaker 10: still need access to uh the technology that we're able
Speaker 10: to provide. And then we also have our first bus
Speaker 10: that goes into the the housing Authority there in Pittsburgh
Speaker 10: and represents the Bus Stops Foundation and helps a lot
Speaker 10: of kids there and parents and grandparents. So we're just
Speaker 10: proud of the things that we're able to accomplish there
Speaker 10: in Pittsburgh and UH just it warms my heart. And
Speaker 10: then are our Christmas holiday toy drive. We're trying to
Speaker 10: get get toys and what we do is we give
Speaker 10: them the families that are that are having a difficult
Speaker 10: time uh during the holidays that that need uh you know,
Speaker 10: kind of a hand up, not a handout, and and
Speaker 10: we kind of provide that for them uh and their.
Speaker 9: Children on the in the holiday scenes.
Speaker 10: And so things that we're trying to do in Pittsburgh
Speaker 10: and try to stay connected.
Speaker 9: To the community.
Speaker 2: Always great to talk to you, Bussy, thanks again for
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 9: Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2: It's a Jerome Bettis on the program. Yeah, known Bussy
Speaker 2: a long time. In fact, I go back. I have
Speaker 2: a Jerome Bettis La Rams jersey and that that would
Speaker 2: be a collection. You know, it's in my man cave
Speaker 2: in Maine and it's got the you know, the Ram
Speaker 2: colors and uh but Bussy gave me that a long,
Speaker 2: long time ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, he was so cool in college because he
Speaker 6: had that number six and he was one of the
Speaker 6: first guys to go really with a different number and
Speaker 6: he was so big and then you had the little
Speaker 6: six on his jersey.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Marvin, he's in the same category as like Marshall
Speaker 8: Falk and sa Kwon Barkley, where he was so great
Speaker 8: as a Steeler, people forget he was a Ram. Yeah,
Speaker 8: Like people don't remember Marshall Falk with the Colts, then
Speaker 8: I can to remember Saquon Barkley with the Giants.
Speaker 4: So like man, he was a RAM.
Speaker 2: I remember talking to a defensive back and he said,
Speaker 2: you got to swear that you'll never mention my name.
Speaker 2: And he said he played against bus and he said
Speaker 2: that he got hit and it hurts so bad that
Speaker 2: he actually started crying, and he didn't want anybody to see,
Speaker 2: so he doubled over to make it seem like, you know,
Speaker 2: he got his Chester's stomach and he said, I was
Speaker 2: I was doubled over. I was weeping. It hurts so bad.
Speaker 2: But he said told.
Speaker 7: You that I guess that defensive back.
Speaker 2: We're playing, all right, everybody gets one guess?
Speaker 7: Sorry? What position did you say?
Speaker 2: He was a defensive back? Oh? Defensive back? Sorry? Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 2: if you want to make one guess, but I'm not
Speaker 2: going to tell you if you're right or not, because
Speaker 2: I promised this guy that I would not say his name.
Speaker 2: Defensive back who cried? He actually shed tears. It hurts
Speaker 2: so bad. When he tried to tackle Bus Marvin.
Speaker 4: I'll start with you, Al Harris from the Packers.
Speaker 2: Al Harris, I don't think he was a defensive back.
Speaker 4: Oh you mean like safety.
Speaker 2: He almost tricked me there, He almost tricked me there,
Speaker 2: Todd Steve at one, I knew you were gonna say
Speaker 2: that because if you don't know anybody else, so you
Speaker 2: had a Bronco Seaton.
Speaker 3: I wanted to say Rodney, but he would never admit
Speaker 3: to almost crying.
Speaker 2: No, No, Rodney Harrison was on the kickoff squad and
Speaker 2: he would try to get knocked He would go down
Speaker 2: there and try to hit you so hard that he
Speaker 2: would get knocked out. And that's how Belichick saw him.
Speaker 2: He saw him with the Chargers and he goes, I
Speaker 2: want that guy on my team. And Rodney is a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame defensive back. PAULI.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go Rando, Mark Carrier, safety.
Speaker 2: Mark Carrier, Tampa Bay.
Speaker 7: Yeah, little bear's old Tampa. Okay, all right, I thought
Speaker 7: I catch in your face. We get We'll never know.
Speaker 5: We'll never know.
Speaker 2: It's a secret that I'll take into retirement.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, you said, what team did he play for?
Speaker 2: I didn't and you almost tricken go either way. You
Speaker 2: got new gear. That's the Notre Dame. If you're watching
Speaker 2: on Peacock, that's the new hockey logo.
Speaker 9: There.
Speaker 5: So awesome.
Speaker 2: That looks great. You're decked out for a guy that
Speaker 2: is a Connecticut Husky.
Speaker 8: No, I'm a fighting Irish. When you think of Irish,
Speaker 8: this is what you.
Speaker 7: See, Marvin, Old Prince.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and your hands are similar to the hands on the.
Speaker 4: I thought we're having a good day.
Speaker 7: I am, there's a scale.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a break. Uh. Mike Golick is going
Speaker 2: to join us here and we'll get more of your
Speaker 2: phone calls. Also, the athletic director, Notre Dame Bavakwa. I
Speaker 2: want to ask him about how do we salvage this
Speaker 2: rivalry between these two schools. We talked to Marcus Freeman yesterday.
Speaker 2: I don't think he wanted to answer it, but I
Speaker 2: had to ask it because I was like, why does
Speaker 2: USC not want to continue this rivalry? That'll be coming
Speaker 2: up a little bit later on. We'll take a break.
Speaker 2: We're back with Mike Golick.
Speaker 5: Who are you calling?
Speaker 2: Song?
Speaker 7: What?
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Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls, we'll bring in Big Mike Gullick.
Speaker 2: How about James in Virginia? Hi, James, what's on your mind?
Speaker 13: We're gonna go inside of him. We're gonna go outside
Speaker 13: of him, inside of him, outside of him. We're gonna
Speaker 13: get him on the run. And once we get him
Speaker 13: on the run, we're gonna keep him on the run.
Speaker 13: We're not gonna pass. We're not gonna pass unless our
Speaker 13: secondary comes up too close, unless our secondary comes up
Speaker 13: too close, and we're not gonna stop until we cross that.
Speaker 13: Go right, and don't forget men. Today the day we're
Speaker 13: gonna win. Today, Today we're gonna win.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, James. Hey, you captured the moment
Speaker 2: from Rudy quite well. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4: That's the first time he sounded how he looks.
Speaker 7: Wow Wow, the deep cut.
Speaker 1: Mar Wow.
Speaker 2: Anything else you'd like to add, James, Man, I.
Speaker 13: Just I love the interview yesterday with Hadago Man. She
Speaker 13: was amazing, dude, what a great woman she is.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 13: I can't wait to see how Sey Flourish is this year. Man,
Speaker 13: and just so excited for this weekend. Then let's go Washington, Man,
Speaker 13: Salu the commanders, and let's go Irish.
Speaker 4: All right here, all right, that's the James I know.
Speaker 2: Come on now, James in Virginia. All right. He is
Speaker 2: Mike Goliic, senior, co host of Gojo and Golic on
Speaker 2: DraftKings Network, former defensive lineman, of course, a member of
Speaker 2: the Fighting Irish Alumni, and great to see him again.
Speaker 2: We welcome in Mike Golick Senior on the program.
Speaker 13: Alright, alr.
Speaker 2: There he is, or used to be Big Mike, but
Speaker 2: not anymore. Medium Mike is what they call him. Now.
Speaker 15: Two quick things first, Uh, sorry to do this, but
Speaker 15: we Mike and I change network for it. FanDuel now
Speaker 15: God yeah, yeah, killing sorry, Todd.
Speaker 5: I'd just get the memo on then. I just figured
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Speaker 2: He wait, let me give you the correct plug.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's Golik and Golic. Now we went from Gojo
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Speaker 15: Golic Fando Sports Network three to five afternoon. Okay, all right,
Speaker 15: and second thing, that second thing who said Steve Atwater
Speaker 15: and Rodney Harrison cried, I mean seriously, I mean you
Speaker 15: for those that aren't old enough google Steve Atwater and
Speaker 15: Christian Nakoye. Christian Nakoya was a two hundred and fifty
Speaker 15: pounds back for Kansas City that ran a straight run
Speaker 15: up the middle. Steve Atwater came and dropped him, dropped
Speaker 15: him where he stood. And Rodney Harrison, you don't have
Speaker 15: to saying those two would snap their forearms and not cry.
Speaker 15: So those were those I was stunned when I heard
Speaker 15: those two names, but.
Speaker 2: You could I don't know if you can imagine this,
Speaker 2: but like you have to make that business decision with
Speaker 2: your own bettas there's certain players where you go, this
Speaker 2: is gonna hurt.
Speaker 15: And I've always got asked about And Jerome's rookie year
Speaker 15: was my ninth year, my last year in the league,
Speaker 15: so I didn't play against him. But people always ask
Speaker 15: how would you have tackled like Derrick Henry? And I said,
Speaker 15: as a D lineman, you don't get that back at
Speaker 15: full speed. You know that back when they get to
Speaker 15: the second and third level and all of a sudden,
Speaker 15: that dB is looking at that back going okay, do
Speaker 15: I hit.
Speaker 5: Him in the thigh? Do I hit him in the ankle?
Speaker 15: Do I hit him in the chest and make that businesses.
Speaker 15: But as a D lineman, we rarely got him at
Speaker 15: full speed, and we were bigger than him.
Speaker 2: But when you think about the running backs you played against,
Speaker 2: like Emmett, you played against quite a bit, quite a bit,
Speaker 2: but he wasn't fast. He was like the running back
Speaker 2: version of Jerry Rice. It didn't seem like he was fast.
Speaker 2: But nobody ever caught Jerry Rice from behind, and Emmett
Speaker 2: seemed to get faster better as the game went on.
Speaker 15: That's why you know you talk about Jerry Rice running
Speaker 15: the four to six at the combine was too slow. Well,
Speaker 15: there's forty speed, which you rarely want to run a
Speaker 15: straight ahead forty and there's game speed, which is a
Speaker 15: different thing. And Emma could drop his shoulder and deliver
Speaker 15: a blow as good as anybody. Tony Dorsett was a
Speaker 15: guy you could never get a good hit on. He
Speaker 15: always turned his body at the last moment. You could
Speaker 15: never get a solid hit on him.
Speaker 5: EMMITTT. Smith, I hit as hard as I've ever hit
Speaker 5: anybody in my life. Out of bounds.
Speaker 15: I had a full speed run and he was going
Speaker 15: toward the sideline, and I mean I clocked him, clocked him,
Speaker 15: and I hit him. And as I was going down,
Speaker 15: I'm like, oh, yeah, that one hurt him, and he
Speaker 15: bounced up and ran right back to I'm laying on.
Speaker 5: The side and go, what the hell just happened.
Speaker 15: It's like a boxer giving your best punch and the
Speaker 15: dude just kind of shaking it off.
Speaker 5: You're going, oh, well, I'm screwed.
Speaker 2: How would you describe this rivalry with USC Notre Dame
Speaker 2: and why is it on the cusp of ending?
Speaker 13: Oh?
Speaker 5: I hate USC? I mean I hate USC.
Speaker 2: But are you you were taught that growing up?
Speaker 15: Well, I mean, listen, I have a different perspective from notere.
Speaker 15: My brother Bob came here as a freshman in seventy five.
Speaker 15: I was twelve years old, so I grew up basically
Speaker 15: coming to Notre Dame games. And then my brother Greg
Speaker 15: came here, and I was more with my peers before
Speaker 15: I got recruited to come here. I mean USC recruited me,
Speaker 15: but there was never a thought. And when both my
Speaker 15: kids both my son Mike was a junior, he was
Speaker 15: down with Urban Meyer getting recruited to Florida, and Jake
Speaker 15: was a sophomore and was down there with him as
Speaker 15: a recruit. And I told the boys there, I said, listen,
Speaker 15: don't go to Notre Dame because me and your mother
Speaker 15: and your uncles went there. And I rattle off everybody
Speaker 15: that went there. I said, you go where your heart
Speaker 15: takes you. I said, except USC. I said, you can't
Speaker 15: go to USC. That's a non starter.
Speaker 2: Why are we on the verge of ending this rivalry?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, listen, Notre Dame.
Speaker 15: I's going to sit there and people are going to listen, say, oh,
Speaker 15: he's blaming USC. But it is on USC. Notre Dame
Speaker 15: hasn't changed their independence. We haven't changed anything. We still
Speaker 15: play the same schedule. No FCS schools, all FBS schools.
Speaker 15: Now it's ACC schools, been big ten schools. But the
Speaker 15: Michigan rivalry is somewhat over USC, and I get it
Speaker 15: to a point where they're doing it, they're gonna have
Speaker 15: to play They playing nine conference games and they have
Speaker 15: to be careful of their non conference schedule to make
Speaker 15: the playoffs. So there's part of me that understands their reasoning.
Speaker 15: But then the Notre Dame part of me comes in
Speaker 15: and says, just schedule us.
Speaker 2: Well, if you had a scheduling, SAR, or if we
Speaker 2: get to that point, then you're going to have Notre
Speaker 2: Dame in Michigan, and then you would have Note Dame
Speaker 2: in USC. It would be mandatory. I mean, we're in
Speaker 2: the entertainment business. That's why we've expanded the playoffs. That's
Speaker 2: why we're going to expand March madness. I just I
Speaker 2: would hope that there is somebody and maybe this is
Speaker 2: ten years down the road when we have the top
Speaker 2: forty schools in America, right right, Yeah, and then you
Speaker 2: can have this is your schedule this year. Maybe you
Speaker 2: don't play USC this year, but you're playing in next year.
Speaker 2: Maybe you play Michigan. That's what I think we need.
Speaker 2: I worry about when you have these schools and you
Speaker 2: take before a big game, you always have that cupcake. Now,
Speaker 2: I know the cupcake is a payout game, right, but
Speaker 2: it's still haven't we gotten to the point where let's
Speaker 2: just play a really good schedule.
Speaker 15: Well, I mean, teams are in schools are thinking about
Speaker 15: the playoffs. But the thing about it is like Notre
Speaker 15: Dame has two losses, two losses to the number two
Speaker 15: and number five team in the country. If Notre Dame
Speaker 15: runs the table they're in, they're ten and two, they're
Speaker 15: going to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: If they could lose tomorrow, they lose.
Speaker 5: They're going to be done. If they get a third loss, they're.
Speaker 15: Going to be done because they can't win a conference,
Speaker 15: so they're going to be done. And they put themselves
Speaker 15: in this tough spot kind of like last.
Speaker 5: Year a bit.
Speaker 15: But the two team and when the committee looks at
Speaker 15: the two losses, as long as those two teams keep winning,
Speaker 15: they're going to be like, well, those are quote unquote
Speaker 15: great losses.
Speaker 5: But to play USC anymore would probably be early in the.
Speaker 15: Season, conference games being later in the season, so it
Speaker 15: would have to be done early in the season if
Speaker 15: it's going to continue. I mean, it's the ninety sixth meeting,
Speaker 15: the only one that's been longer is Notre Dame Navy
Speaker 15: and that's ninety seven.
Speaker 2: What was your first reaction when you saw Rudy? I mean,
Speaker 2: it is a documentary.
Speaker 5: Do I have to answer this question? Am I on
Speaker 5: the hot seat for this question? There were some Hollywood.
Speaker 15: Things put in there to make it a little more
Speaker 15: than maybe what it was. So the story is great,
Speaker 15: right of not being a recruited athlete going to Holy Cross,
Speaker 15: finally getting your chance, but some of the things on
Speaker 15: the inside of that maybe didn't happen.
Speaker 2: So you didn't buy into this even though this is
Speaker 2: your alma monum.
Speaker 15: My brother Bob was a freshman when when Rudy when
Speaker 15: the Rudy story, when Rudy was in his last year,
Speaker 15: and my brother Bob, if you ask him, he doesn't
Speaker 15: even remember. Rudy doesn't remember.
Speaker 5: And now Rudy was defensive show team.
Speaker 15: My brother Bob was on the defense going against the
Speaker 15: offensive show team, so he wouldn't have a chance to
Speaker 15: play against him on the field.
Speaker 5: But still they were teammates.
Speaker 2: And did your brother turn in his jersey like everybody
Speaker 2: else did that they weren't going to play if Rudy.
Speaker 5: Remember I talked about of Hollywood embellishment. Can I get
Speaker 5: a t o here? Yeah? Again?
Speaker 15: Great story, great, great, you know story of a kid
Speaker 15: who wasn't a top athlete getting on the team and
Speaker 15: getting in for a play and such.
Speaker 2: He's Mike Golig Senior squirming in his seat right now.
Speaker 2: He is, him and his son are on FanDuel Network.
Speaker 5: Todd, Sorry, Todd, Sorry.
Speaker 2: It's okay. You've been consistently bad. Okay, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: You know, how do you keep these coaches in place
Speaker 2: for a longer period of time? We grew up in
Speaker 2: an era where coaches stayed for decades. But here's Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 2: Who I mean, everybody loves Marcus Freeman. I think they
Speaker 2: looked at him maybe for the NFL last year. You know,
Speaker 2: is Penn State going to come knocking on the door?
Speaker 2: The money that is there now? You know the price
Speaker 2: with you know, coach Signetti getting eleven million dollars a year.
Speaker 2: How do you keep these coaches in place for a
Speaker 2: long period of time?
Speaker 15: First off, let me say, stay the hell away from
Speaker 15: Marcus Freeman, all right, stay away from my coach?
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 15: He is a great coach. He's a great recruiter. Why
Speaker 15: they're coming after Listen. I know he just got extended
Speaker 15: I think last December. If they have to, you keep
Speaker 15: extending this guy as long as you have to to
Speaker 15: keep him here. I mean, listen, Dan, everybody every complained
Speaker 15: about the players having movement, and I do think while
Speaker 15: I'm happy the players have movement, happy the players are
Speaker 15: getting paid. Being able to move every single year is
Speaker 15: really really tough, But coaches have been able to.
Speaker 5: I mean, Kurt Signetti signed that eight year, ninety two
Speaker 5: million dollar.
Speaker 15: Extension and he still could sign somewhere else next year
Speaker 15: if he wanted to, Right, he won't. He's really done
Speaker 15: an incredible job with that program, but he could.
Speaker 5: Extensions really mean nothing.
Speaker 15: The buyout may get bigger, but you always have alumni
Speaker 15: that will buy it out. Dan, there's no way under
Speaker 15: the current system, there's no way to stop the movement.
Speaker 15: And quite honestly, head coaches don't want to stop this
Speaker 15: movement because they're going only be one new coach at
Speaker 15: Penn State. But if five are talked about, those other
Speaker 15: four are going to get extensions at the school they're atting.
Speaker 5: More money, so they don't want it to change either.
Speaker 2: What's going on with the Big Ten with this pension
Speaker 2: fund and you know, two billion dollars.
Speaker 15: Oh, the private equity firm, I think, I think the
Speaker 15: worry there for this.
Speaker 5: It would be split.
Speaker 15: There's eighteen teams in the Big Ten and then the
Speaker 15: equity firm.
Speaker 5: There'd be split twenty ways. Basically, I think.
Speaker 15: The one point of contention for any kind of private
Speaker 15: equity is what kind of power do they have. I
Speaker 15: understand they wouldn't get a seat on the board. It
Speaker 15: all depends on the power that you have. There's one
Speaker 15: thing to happen to pay a portion of your money
Speaker 15: to somebody, but it's another thing if that entity has power,
Speaker 15: and that's what they don't want. There's already enough cooks
Speaker 15: in the kitchen, already enough. You talked about the possibility
Speaker 15: of just forty teams. At some point it would probably
Speaker 15: be more than that. But as my son Mike and
Speaker 15: I argue about this all the time, he thinks that's
Speaker 15: going to happen. But I'm like, I don't think commissioners
Speaker 15: can work together. Greg SANKEI would have to be the
Speaker 15: top man. He's not going to accept anybody else running
Speaker 15: anything he wants to run. And I don't mean that
Speaker 15: in a bad way, but that's kind of the position
Speaker 15: that he's in. So I have a hard time believing
Speaker 15: even the power for conference commissioners could all work together
Speaker 15: to secure kind of going away from the NCAA and
Speaker 15: just forming one one conference.
Speaker 2: March Madness is going to expand. It's not a question
Speaker 2: of if, but when. And I mean it used to
Speaker 2: be special to make the tournament.
Speaker 15: I mean, we've had so many coaches and we's had
Speaker 15: John Calipari on the show, and every coach we've had
Speaker 15: on is just like, why why are we You know,
Speaker 15: we already have to call the play in games round one,
Speaker 15: which I don't do. They're playing games. Now you're just
Speaker 15: going to have more playing games. I mean I have.
Speaker 15: But a team can say we made the tournament, No,
Speaker 15: you didn't. It's really a play in game, even though
Speaker 15: you're not saying it's a playing game.
Speaker 5: I don't understand why they're expanding.
Speaker 2: But we're going to expand college football playoffs.
Speaker 15: We are, But I think sixteen is more palatable than
Speaker 15: seventy six.
Speaker 2: But we're not stopping at sixteen.
Speaker 15: Oh it better stop at sixteen. I mean, how far
Speaker 15: can you go? I mean have you have? When do
Speaker 15: you start games? I already think they wait too long
Speaker 15: to start games. They should start them earlier. Then you
Speaker 15: get into Christmas, then you get into school, which that's
Speaker 15: another thing. We've we lost the student athlete moniker. But
Speaker 15: there's a but. But the lower divisions have figured out playoffs,
Speaker 15: haven't they. They've been doing it for years and they
Speaker 15: figured it off. And Division One has always been like, ah,
Speaker 15: we got to think about the players and the games
Speaker 15: until the money gets too good, kind of like the
Speaker 15: NFL and gambling.
Speaker 5: No we're not.
Speaker 15: No, can't wait a minute, how much can we make?
Speaker 15: Oh wait, let's have gambling. Okay, So again, it's no
Speaker 15: secret it's all about the money.
Speaker 2: Did you know the point spreads when you were playing?
Speaker 5: No, I had no idea. Quite honestly. I've worked for
Speaker 5: DraftKings and FanDuel and I still don't know the points spreads.
Speaker 5: I really don't. I mean, we don't talk.
Speaker 15: About like the gambling and this point spread and stuff
Speaker 15: on our show. We just do it like a sports show,
Speaker 15: like like we used to do in the old days.
Speaker 12: Okay, but so when you played for the Eagles, No,
Speaker 12: you had no idea, no idea, no clue, zero idea,
Speaker 12: no idea, And I don't know if any players did,
Speaker 12: but but I I had no idea at all.
Speaker 2: Why is Notre Dame a nine and a half point
Speaker 2: favorite tomorrow?
Speaker 15: That seemed coming off the USC destroying of Michigan and
Speaker 15: Mayava the quarterback and Lemon the receiver?
Speaker 5: How good they are and the line?
Speaker 15: Their line is on their fourth combination, but they've only
Speaker 15: given up four sacks.
Speaker 5: It's either too strong offenses.
Speaker 15: I was surprised that the spread was as big as
Speaker 15: it is, but again, as a former player, I never
Speaker 15: cared about the spread. If we won by a point
Speaker 15: didn't matter to me.
Speaker 2: We got the w Where are you going to be
Speaker 2: for the game?
Speaker 15: I'm actually calling the game for Notre Dame Radio. Ryan
Speaker 15: Harris normally does it, but he has this little thing,
Speaker 15: this fiftieth Super Bowl Anniversary for the Broncos that he's
Speaker 15: going to, of which I wish I had a Super Bowl,
Speaker 15: you know, United to go to. But he's going to that,
Speaker 15: So I'm actually I'm actually calling the game.
Speaker 5: Awesome, Yeah, that would be fun. A family here, No,
Speaker 5: I'm here by myself, soaking it all in. Nobody wanted
Speaker 5: to come with me.
Speaker 2: We were at linebackers last night. The line, Oh I'll
Speaker 2: be there, I'll be there to We were there last night. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's uh.
Speaker 5: There is no doubt. I don't want to get graphic,
Speaker 5: but there's no doubt my vomit is still somewhere in there.
Speaker 5: There's no doubt that it's still in there. Yeah.
Speaker 15: Yeah, great place, just a great place has been changed.
Speaker 15: Don't don't wear open toe shoes in there.
Speaker 5: Just don't.
Speaker 2: Great to see you. Todd, my senior, he doesn't work
Speaker 2: for draft.
Speaker 4: Was a few months ago. Ready he went from Driftings
Speaker 4: to Fangil GoJ It's Golic and gold.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wait three to five Eastern. Yeah. I thought
Speaker 5: I would text at you, but I was like, I
Speaker 5: was like screwed up. Like he's a phenomenal producer. He knows.
Speaker 4: All times of change.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Fox the big noon kickoff at Michigan and
Speaker 2: they're going to be in Utah. So me once Friday,
Speaker 2: it's Brady Yeah, big intro to Brady Quinn. He's like, Uh,
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not here. I'm not in Michigan.
Speaker 5: You did play it? Noted you did?
Speaker 4: When you got that right the game for no Dame
Speaker 4: on the week and.
Speaker 15: There you go, you're like hitting three hundred, you'd be
Speaker 15: a multimillionaire bass.
Speaker 2: Mike Golick Senior and you'll find him on.
Speaker 5: Colic and Golic.
Speaker 4: Go know where I got that gojo for them with
Speaker 4: Goliatholic on FanDuel.
Speaker 2: How about we cut our losses. We'll take a break
Speaker 2: back after this with the most must win game of
Speaker 2: the weekend. After this.
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Speaker 2: Let's look at the games sliding into the weekend. We'll
Speaker 2: start with Notre Dame in USC. What would be the
Speaker 2: other recommendations there, Paulie.
Speaker 6: I got a bunch for college I like to throw
Speaker 6: out there, LSU Vandy, both of those guys, one of
Speaker 6: them goes away.
Speaker 7: Georgia Tech. They're undefeated and they got Duke.
Speaker 6: That's saucy old miss Georgia, Texas Tech undefeated, Arizona State.
Speaker 7: But there's that's the that's a college slate.
Speaker 2: Okay, You've got the Falcons and the Niners. Is that
Speaker 2: a big game? Did it become a big game because
Speaker 2: the Falcons beat the Bills.
Speaker 6: Falcons have momentum and with Warner out for the forty
Speaker 6: nine ers, that could be saucy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm trying to think if there's any other great
Speaker 2: games in the NFL, I mean the Rams and Jags.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately it's in London. Eagles Vikings.
Speaker 5: That's good.
Speaker 7: People aren't sure what to think about the Vikings shed.
Speaker 2: Well because JJ McCarthy's not playing. Yeah, and now it
Speaker 2: feels like it's Carson Wentz's job. The let's see. I
Speaker 2: still think Miami and Cleveland. Brown's only because what could
Speaker 2: happen if the Dolphins lose this game is Mike McDaniel
Speaker 2: coaching for his job. Colts Chargers, that's good. Colts are
Speaker 2: getting one and a half against Chargers, Commanders Cowboys. Commanders
Speaker 2: minus two and a half against Cowboys. Just some of
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Speaker 6: Who had the bwis the best Week in sports?
Speaker 2: Dand oh okay, Todd I'll let you go first, who
Speaker 2: had the best week in sports.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go recency bias after seeing the Dodgers go
Speaker 8: up three games to nothing and a chance to sweep tonight,
Speaker 8: the Los Angeles Dodgers, in particular pitching staff getting it
Speaker 8: done against the Brewers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the starters have been unbelievable, all.
Speaker 3: Right, Seaton, kind of obvious. I mean, he's been having
Speaker 3: the best two years in sports. Really a Kurt Signetti
Speaker 3: in Indiana football, they're just rolling right now.
Speaker 2: By the way, the Dodgers first team to allow one
Speaker 2: run or less in four consecutive postseason games since the
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six Atlanta Braves.
Speaker 16: Stat of the day, stat of the day, that best
Speaker 16: stat of the day, stat of the day, stat of
Speaker 16: the day.
Speaker 6: Best week in sports, Paul, I'm gonna go college football
Speaker 6: fans in the state of Indiana. You got your coach
Speaker 6: for the next few years, and it looks like you're
Speaker 6: gonna have a good football program for a while. And
Speaker 6: Indiana has never been able to say that. And I
Speaker 6: think the Marcus Freeman rumors to Penn State have gone nowhere.
Speaker 7: I don't think he's even considering it.
Speaker 6: Notre Dame football is in the best shape it's been
Speaker 6: since the Lou Holtz era.
Speaker 7: So college football in the state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we just throw out these names. I saw
Speaker 2: where somebody said, maybe as Joel Klatt, that Penn State's
Speaker 2: search should start with Nick Saban. Nick Saban doesn't want
Speaker 2: to get back into what is college football now?
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, Yeah, he's going to the Cleveland Browns with
Speaker 4: Arch Manning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was another one that was rumors started like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's gonna go to the Browns with Arch Manning. Well,
Speaker 2: how's that going right now? Because Arch isn't leaving, isn't ready,
Speaker 2: and Nick is doing great, He's doing fine. You know,
Speaker 2: he doesn't wake up with a loss, you know, at
Speaker 2: any point in you know, his college football season. Marvin
Speaker 2: who had the best week in sport Recncy bias.
Speaker 8: Also Joe Flacco unbelievable night last night off the couch,
Speaker 8: forty one years old.
Speaker 4: I see hot lets go.
Speaker 2: He doesn't seem flustered, he doesn't seem bothered by anything
Speaker 2: that you never know if he's winning or losing. Here
Speaker 2: is Joe Flacco on having the opportunity to play with
Speaker 2: these great receivers in Cincinnati.
Speaker 17: Just with the simple things, not the fact that they
Speaker 17: went for eight hundred yards obviously, but you could see it.
Speaker 17: And then today what I got to see was just
Speaker 17: how a defense has to treat those guys and if
Speaker 17: you don't treat them a certain way, they can hurt you.
Speaker 17: And if you do treat him a certain way, well
Speaker 17: maybe we have some other guys that can get.
Speaker 4: The job done.
Speaker 17: So today I think I got to see just the
Speaker 17: problems they create in general. Last week I said it
Speaker 17: earlier this week. Last week we didn't do anything crazy,
Speaker 17: but you could see those guys are different, and it's
Speaker 17: pretty cool to be the thrown well.
Speaker 2: Having Jamar Chase, I think I could complete a couple passes,
Speaker 2: I do. I think he's that good. He had sixteen
Speaker 2: recess so I think he was targeted twenty three times. Like,
Speaker 2: at what point do the Steelers defense go, I think
Speaker 2: they're going to throw the ball to Jamar Chase, we
Speaker 2: should cover him?
Speaker 6: Yes, paulin Flacco in Spanish means skinny, Flacco in Italian
Speaker 6: means flaccid or weak.
Speaker 7: Wow, back to you, dad, just throwing that in there.
Speaker 2: Have you had a Flacco kind of day? Todd?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel bad that's the Quinn thing and the
Speaker 4: Gullic thing.
Speaker 14: I know you guys, I'm sure will remind me to
Speaker 14: make sure I don't feel better at a time it's
Speaker 14: not on us.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tom,