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Speaker 2: Look at us now. Tip to Tim. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this morning combat. Hi everybody. It is Wednesday, ten November.

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Speaker 1: And if you're a United States Marine or he ever

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Speaker 1: were one, you know that tenh November seventeen seventy five

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Speaker 1: is a special day in the history of the United

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Speaker 1: States Marine Corps. In fact, it is the birthday. Happy birthday, Marines.

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to our viewers out there, if it's not

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Speaker 1: your fucking birthday. Hello everyone. My name is Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 1: and you see to my left is it is my

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Speaker 1: buddy and yours the King of cell You know what,

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Speaker 1: Glover's the King Connecticut, so I will say the Crown

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Speaker 1: Prince of Connecticut. At least for now, he is back home.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he has slept, he has got some good rest.

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Speaker 1: It's Brian Campbell, what up, BC.

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Speaker 2: Look, I am so freaking washed right now. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna lie eleven days in Vegas. It'll take some time

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Speaker 2: for me to get back, so I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 2: we're gonna mail in today's show. But uh, I got

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Speaker 2: some stamps ready for you. But Luke, legitimately, happy.

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Speaker 1: Marine's Day to you against Marine's Day.

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Speaker 2: So Marine's Day is the day before Veterans Day, right,

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Speaker 2: that's how the calendar works.

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Speaker 1: You mean the Marine Corps birthday. There's no such thing

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Speaker 1: as Marine's Day. Got it? Got it?

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we can distribute you later today. But I'm here

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Speaker 2: to tell the truth like I always do, the purveyor

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Speaker 2: of truth on this podcast. So let me just reiterate

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Speaker 2: for all you truth seekers out there. Han shot first,

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Speaker 2: Epstein did not kill himself, and Colby took Kamaru down.

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Speaker 1: Maybe some of those are true, certainly not all of them. Well,

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Speaker 1: with that in mind, I just want to remind everyone

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Speaker 1: five star REVI you to help us scam the Algo.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the story is with this sending

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Speaker 1: gift certificates, but they told us that we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: that for someone who made us laugh, So keep doing that.

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Speaker 2: I guess like that seems like a broken promise right now,

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Speaker 2: hopefully I'm not in charge of it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, we have a lot in store for

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Speaker 1: you today. Hold on, we have a lot in store

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Speaker 1: for you today. We have to get to Max Holloway,

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Speaker 1: by the way, fights this weekend. Very quiet that Max

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Speaker 1: Holloway is fighting in seventy two hours and hardly anyone's

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Speaker 1: talking about it. Plus we have a great set of

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Speaker 1: dezonn fights coming up this weekend, believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: and a whole lot more. We're gonna get to it

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Speaker 1: and then some what's up you see?

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Speaker 2: Would you want to sign boxing this weekend too? You're

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Speaker 2: over here now days in you know, come on. Showtime

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Speaker 2: Boxing back this weekend.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Showtime Boxing is back. David Benavitez, who,

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Speaker 2: One never knows that Sinko Canelo Benavita. Sign me up,

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Speaker 2: Luke okay, But great to be back with you, Luke Okay.

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Speaker 2: I love doing things with you. And did you have

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So yesterday I got up with my daughter and

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Speaker 1: then I slept till noon, which was great. I needed it.

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Speaker 1: So I would only imagine a guy like you who

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Speaker 1: I also went to the gym.

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Speaker 2: Not good, not good. It's gonna take a while, Luke. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I did go. I went for a massage yesterday. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, Luke, all the juice is releasing. After that,

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Speaker 2: I felt like a marionette, you know. Oh yeah, Now when.

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Speaker 1: You do the when you do the massage, hold on,

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Speaker 1: No, no, no no. So I've done a massage two times,

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Speaker 1: how much of your clothes have you taken off? Like

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So there's that, all right? All right? Do

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Speaker 2: I prefer the latter. One second, Thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: my lovely wife bringing me a coffee. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: There you go, shouts to the lovely wife who can't

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Speaker 1: hear me. Okay, okay. Do you get music in the

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Speaker 2: it's not really jazz. It's sort of like world music

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Speaker 2: They get into the foot and the toes, Luke. Then

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Speaker 1: It was great. Oka. Did you get any did you

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Speaker 2: the one problem with my stomach kept gurgling, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, you know, I hope that isn't perceived as

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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move this along. So, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: you certainly can. You can go to showtime dot com

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Speaker 1: get a thirty day free trial. Again, there is some

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Speaker 1: boxing coming up this weekend, plus Bellator. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: Reminder that you could buy gift cards for the holidays.

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Speaker 2: I think Luke mentioned that, and also I am being

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Speaker 2: told the Drug Rugs Part two will be back for

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Speaker 2: the holiday season, so uh, you know, you gotta you

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Speaker 2: gotta serve somebody. You gotta celebrate something this December. Why

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Speaker 2: don't you outfit your people in some good shit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you have it, So the Drug Rugs will

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Speaker 1: we'll do fan subs today, which means, uh, morning combat

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com to get him in, and then

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Speaker 1: morning combat at gmail dot com for Friday's Dead Wrong.

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Speaker 2: He got recognized in Vegas at the at the line

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Speaker 2: when you and I were washed in that airplane line,

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Speaker 2: and some guy was like, thank you, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your hard work. And he wasn't talking about

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Speaker 2: the Marines at all. He was like, thank you for

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Speaker 2: to not shaving with thank you. And I was just like, man, dude, you.

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Speaker 1: Know that happens to me a lot. I gotta recognize

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Speaker 2: I love the first time you and I went to Vegas,

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Speaker 1: I know you're not used to it. You can you

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Speaker 1: you're not. I know you're not. All right, we gotta

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Speaker 1: do this read. Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: I'm ready? All right, let's not a read.

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Speaker 2: It's a conversation between men, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, see the holiday season. This holiday season, we're giving

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Speaker 1: below the waist grooming. Manscape Performance Package four point zero

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Speaker 2: Just so you know, I am prepared to show people

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Speaker 2: how the lawnmower works on today's show, Luke. As long

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Speaker 2: as we don't catch a case. Inside this package, Luke,

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Speaker 2: you'll find they're law more four point zero trimmer, the

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Speaker 2: weed whacker, ear nose and hair trimmer, and the crop

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Speaker 2: preserver ball, the odorant. Look. They got a crop reviver toner.

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Speaker 2: They got a performance box or briefs. Luke loves wearing

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Speaker 2: performance boxer briefs, and a travel bag to hold all

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Speaker 1: Full point OH Trimmer features a cutting edge ceramic UH

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Speaker 1: blade to produce grooming accidents thanks to their advanced skin

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Speaker 1: the four thousand k led spotlight on and off one

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Speaker 1: need to war more precise shavee. Plus, it's waterproof. BC.

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Speaker 2: Who are you talking to You're like over here, You're like,

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Speaker 1: No, I gotta fix now.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, all right, well, Luke, I wanted to tell you

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Speaker 2: that these products are amazing. That's why we talk about

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Speaker 2: them all the time. They straight up work. This is

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Speaker 2: me talking, not an ad. I used to cut myself

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's a it's a it's a sensitive area.

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Speaker 2: Luckily for all you guys still in the game, and

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Speaker 2: even those who think they are but they're not. And

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Speaker 2: I see you out there. You won't hurt yourself. You

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Speaker 2: won't cut yourself. It's easy. You could do it in

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Speaker 2: the shower. They're waterproof. You should you should just step

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Speaker 1: All right? And also the Performance Package four point zero

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Speaker 1: includes the weed Whacker Knows, an ear hair trimmer that

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Speaker 1: uses a nine thousand rpm motor power three sixty degree

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Speaker 1: rotary duel blade system to provide proprietary skin safe technology

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Speaker 1: which helps prevent nick snags tugs in the delicate spaces. BC.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you just read the script It says delicate holes, Luke,

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Speaker 2: I mean, come.

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Speaker 1: On, because that's I'm just not I'm not reading that,

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Speaker 1: so all.

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Speaker 2: Right, well look, Also it also comes with manscapes liquid formulations. Wow,

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Speaker 2: it sounds gross. They're like pumpkin pie and ice cream method.

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Speaker 1: Let's get through this. We have to do the show.

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Speaker 1: Just when you move through God, can you move through this?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Can't live without an exclamation point, the crop Preserver ball,

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Speaker 1: We came off UFC two sixty seven, then it was

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Speaker 2: So Luke, for me, it's simple unless some of those

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. Although I did not hear Max's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he would. That's a terrible fight

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting point to say it that way. I

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Speaker 2: Question number two, Luke in the overall featherweight title picture,

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Speaker 1: Do you make of the idea that, like, what happens

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Speaker 2: become the first three division champion. And you know, we've

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Speaker 2: always argued whether he even deserved that second division opportunity.

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Speaker 2: But let's give Henry Shudo credit. When he's been given opportunities,

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Speaker 2: he stepped up large and come through. I mean, even

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Speaker 2: with me not thinking he actually beat DJ in their rematch,

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Speaker 2: close fight. I thought the scoring went the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: But this guy is as strategic and thoughtful and versatile, Luke.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's in that fight. I know you just

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Speaker 2: got you gotta c KB going right now. I can

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Speaker 2: see it, Luke. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I have a rational mind for these and

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Speaker 1: not the kind of mark behavior for phony fights that

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Speaker 1: either won't happen or shouldn't happen, and if they do,

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Speaker 1: would be blowouts.

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Speaker 2: I don't really you've got a city kicking boner. Well

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Speaker 2: you say shouldn't happen, But let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: Let's say Volkanowski defeats Max for technically the third time,

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Speaker 2: who's next? That you're like that guy deserves it next.

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Speaker 2: There isn't anybody I'm telling you, Luke, there's a greater

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Speaker 2: than forty six percent chance that that fight happens. If

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Speaker 2: if Volkanovsky beats Max.

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Speaker 1: Well, if Volkanovsky beats Max and then Max decides to

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Speaker 1: leave the division, certainly it opens them things up. But

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Speaker 1: some guys are getting back to action already on the

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Speaker 1: side of the rankings. I don't think Arnold Allen has

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Speaker 1: a fight yet. But if it's just the Volkanovsky show,

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Speaker 1: then there's a series of fresh matchups you could do.

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Speaker 1: You could eventually do again. It would require some turnover,

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Speaker 1: but you could do some Rodriguez, you could do Chance Sung,

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Speaker 1: John Calvin, Cator, you could do literally almost anyone else.

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Speaker 1: Giga Chakazi's coming through the division as well. It sort

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Speaker 1: of opens up in a very interesting and unique way.

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Speaker 1: But so I grant there's like no burning number one

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Speaker 1: contender if Max is sort of not in the equation.

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Speaker 1: But I just don't see this huda Wan likely, either

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Speaker 1: because Dana didn't want it to be likely, or because

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Speaker 1: it's a silly idea that would pan out silly exclusion.

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Speaker 2: But I want to ask you about the man we

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Speaker 2: don't talk about anymore in this division that I went

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Speaker 2: on record, and what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: People don't even believe in my MMA takes as being

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Speaker 2: a thing. But I've gone on record and telling you

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Speaker 2: the best brother weight in the world is from the

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Speaker 2: damn Schmesh factory, Okay, and it's a fellow named Zabi

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Speaker 2: Mago med Sheerripov.

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Speaker 1: Luke. Oh, Yes, he's sort of been rumored to come back,

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Speaker 1: but we don't know what the story is with that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say if he does come back, that

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Speaker 2: we should think of him in the same regard as

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Speaker 2: we did. And by the way, there are people that

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Speaker 2: don't think of him in that same regard as I do,

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Speaker 2: and I respect that. But I'm hoping for his sake

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Speaker 2: and the sake MMA fans Luke, that he can get

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Speaker 2: back into this equation because he seems like to be

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Speaker 2: me to be the missing link in the overall title picture.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps that is true, there are some missing pieces, but

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Speaker 1: the division can't move on until there's some resolution between

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Speaker 1: Max and Volkanovsky. This Saturday will push us a little

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Speaker 1: bit further along. Also in that card we see some

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Speaker 1: other interesting fights on there. Ben Rothwell is back against

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Speaker 1: marcos Hojirio Delima, Felicia Spencer is back taking on Leah Letson,

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Speaker 1: who I guess is the first fight since the Ultimate

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Speaker 1: Fighter twenty eighth finale. Let's see Miguel Baza is back

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Speaker 1: against Chaos Williams.

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Speaker 2: You have a Songy Dong? Julio ar say that could

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Speaker 2: bang Luke.

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Speaker 1: Sick fight there as well. Thiago moys Sas is back

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Speaker 1: after losing to Islam Macket Chef. Which of these fights, Mark, Gia,

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Speaker 1: Casey and I go on and on. I mentioned Andrea

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Speaker 1: Lee as well. Which of these fights stands out to

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Speaker 1: you the most? Which one? Are you paying attention to?

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Speaker 2: Song You Dong? Still? Just twenty three? That loss he

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Speaker 2: had was uh, they learned from it. It was close, right?

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Speaker 2: Was that the questionable loss?

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Speaker 1: Luke?

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Speaker 2: What am I thinking of here?

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Speaker 1: From Song You Don Song You Dong? I'll pull Yeah?

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Speaker 2: The loss to Kyler Phillips. I was thinking about his

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Speaker 2: win over Casey Kenny, which was a split decision win

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Speaker 2: and could have gone either way. I think this guy

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Speaker 2: still got a bright potential there, mister Fabers boy there,

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Speaker 2: and I want to see if he could beat Arsie

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Speaker 2: and take that step forward and look at that division's

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Speaker 2: deepest shit. But this guy's shown us some good things.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna you know, someone I'm gonna watch for sure,

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Speaker 2: and look Ben walthwell up, I'll watch him against anybody. Luke,

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Speaker 2: I know it's getting it's getting late, right for the

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Speaker 2: forty year old. You talk about guys who started their

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Speaker 2: career before nine to eleven, which is a rarity nowadays.

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Speaker 2: There's one of them there, the former us MMA heavyweight champion. Luke,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Also, Santiago Puntsinnimbio handed Bayza his

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Speaker 1: last loss, his only loss, back against Chaos Williams. Here,

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Speaker 1: the one with some divisional ranking would be women's straw.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, flyweight. You got Cynthia Calvio or Calvi Joe

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Speaker 1: sitting at five. But dude, check this out. They got

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Speaker 1: Andrea Lee sitting at twelve. Man, she has a huge

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Speaker 1: opportunity here and neither is necessarily coming in all that hot.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the case of Andrea Lee, she

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Speaker 1: had three fights in a row that she had lost

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Speaker 1: against Joanne Calderwood, Lauren Murphy, both of those split decisions

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Speaker 1: in fairness, and then Roxane Mota Fairy. She lost the decisions,

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Speaker 1: which is getting blown up. She beats Antonina Chevchenko, that's

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Speaker 1: a nice rebound. But Cynthia comes into this fight having lost.

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Speaker 1: She beat Jessica I, then lost the decision fight to

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Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Chukegan, then lost in the first round against Jessica Androge.

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Speaker 1: Now she's putting up five verses twelve, dude, Andrea Lee

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Speaker 1: can find herself deep inside the top ten with a

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Speaker 1: win here. And I don't think it's that crazy that

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Speaker 1: she could get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, KGB has been putting the look good at least

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Speaker 2: in that comeback and win after those losses you mentioned.

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Speaker 2: But let's not overly inflate at this point. A win

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Speaker 2: over Antonina Chefchenko. You know my love for that family, Luke,

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Speaker 2: but the stock's going in the wrong direction quick.

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Speaker 1: They've got to your point. They've got Andrea Lee at

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Speaker 1: our friends over at Caesar Sports Book. They've got her

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Speaker 1: at about plus one hundred. They've got Cynthia sitting at

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Speaker 1: minus one twenty. That sound right to you.

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Speaker 2: I think Calvio is the better fighter, but she can

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Speaker 2: be up there, up or down at times. I think

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Speaker 2: she wins this one. And I don't know why you

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Speaker 2: keep calling KGB Andrea like, she's you know, Andrea Zuckerman

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Speaker 2: from Nino two, and oh, Luke, it's Andrea kgb Lee Okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean it can be. It can be. You can

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Speaker 1: just be Andrea Andrea. It could be BC. I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna call her BC from now on. Also BC. In

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Speaker 1: this fight, did you go to.

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Speaker 2: School with with some some tarras that wanted to be

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Speaker 2: called Tara or like Megan, you know, like come on,

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Speaker 2: just you know, right, come on?

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Speaker 1: Also, Courtney Casey take taking on Leana Jojua. Courtney Casey

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Speaker 1: sitting at nine and nine. How many fighters in the

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Speaker 1: UFC do you have seen? You see having five hundred records? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: five hundred at this point.

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Speaker 2: Really not typical, Luke, it's not typical. I'm with you

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Speaker 2: on that. I often text you about Jojua and then

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Speaker 2: you're always like, oh, that's uh Kadriov's.

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Speaker 1: Girl, you know or whatever, kadri Drov Cadirov.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, I mean. Do you think he was Do

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Speaker 2: you think he demands the respect of me pronouncing his

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Speaker 2: name correctly?

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Speaker 1: Luke? I think he If you didn't in front of him,

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Speaker 1: you'd probably be tortured. So there's that.

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if if I get a little bit more

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Speaker 2: aggressive with the beard growth la you and I shaved

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Speaker 2: the mustache. Even though I don't have, you know, a

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Speaker 2: smesh factory lineage. Being that I am half Lithuanian and

578
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Speaker 2: do come from a factory town, I wonder if I

579
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Speaker 2: could accidentally fit in with that crew.

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Speaker 1: No, you wouldn't fit in for five seconds. You'd be

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Speaker 1: outed as an impostor right away. You have zero currency

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Speaker 1: in that world. All right, let's talk about Belatoor two

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Speaker 1: seventy one if we can. This is also this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Chris Cyborg is back in action, taking on Shinade kavanon.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the odds on this one, I mean,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, they are very heavily in Cyborg's favor. Our

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Speaker 1: friends at Caesar Sportsbook havever as a minus twenty two hundred,

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Speaker 1: Shade Kavanaugh sitting at plus eleven hundred. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I sort of get why Cyborg decided to go and

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Speaker 1: ply her trade in belatre Like she's being made to

591
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Speaker 1: look like a killer here. She's probably getting paid great money.

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Speaker 1: I think they're fine. I mean it sincerely. I think

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Speaker 1: Bellator's probably finding the best opponents that they can. But BC,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, like, there's not much of intrigue

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Speaker 1: factor here. She's just probably gonna beat up another opponent.

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Speaker 1: Or am I missing something? Maybe I'm being of course

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Speaker 1: you're not.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, this card is on Showtime Friday night,

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Speaker 2: ten pm Eastern, So you got a loaded weekend of

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Speaker 2: combat sports on the old there free for thirty days

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Speaker 2: Showtime app Oh look, Cyborg's thirty six, and I feel

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Speaker 2: like every fight she's had in which it's against a

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Speaker 2: regular contender, which has been most of them, we got

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Speaker 2: excited for the Julia budfight. You know, there's been other

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Speaker 2: fights that like, could this be one? We've gone to

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Speaker 2: that same narrative of okay, if it's not the opponent

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Speaker 2: that can give her trouble, could it be aged? Will

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Speaker 2: she come out flat one night, not land the big

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Speaker 2: home run punch and get out worked. I don't know, Luke,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Shaneaide Kavanaugh is the one. There

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Speaker 2: is that one guy, God bless him on Instagram who

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Speaker 2: drops dms every week and tweets at me telling us

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Speaker 2: how much we're overlooking. Shanade Cavanaugh, the thirty five year

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Speaker 2: old from Ireland, Luke, who may be on a two

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Speaker 2: fight win streak, but didn't she win? She lost four

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Speaker 2: of five before that, including losses to top contenders. So

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Speaker 2: I mean, could Shanade Kavanaugh have had a big you

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Speaker 2: know turnaround here? To me, this feels like another move

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Speaker 2: the Chains and Attraction fight, the great Cyborg comes out

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Speaker 2: and does her business maybe cyborgs, you know, waiting with

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Speaker 2: baited breath to see what Kayla Harrison's next move is,

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Speaker 2: or can she get a big crossover boxing match or

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Speaker 2: what have you. But uh, the legend will be back

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Speaker 2: once more, Luke, I'm a little bit more interested, to

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Speaker 2: be fair storyline wise on this card with the advancement

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Speaker 2: of Aaron Pico, who's got an interesting fight against an

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Speaker 2: unbeaten fighter, h In just was it Justin Gonzalez who

628
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Speaker 2: who's won his debut over Taiwan Claxton there, and Bellatore

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Speaker 2: has a win on the Dana White Contender series. We

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Speaker 2: want Pico to make that leap, and he's getting closer, right,

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Speaker 2: he's past reformed. He seems like he's getting closer now.

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Speaker 2: So is he gonna fight for a title? Can he?

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Speaker 2: Can the can the local boy make good. Now. In

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Speaker 2: all so, Luke under the radar on the prelims, Valerie

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Speaker 2: Laredo back after her first career loss.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's talk first about there's actually a

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Speaker 1: lot going on this card. I'm glad you brought it

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Speaker 1: up first with Cyborg. If you look at Shannado O'Connor,

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Speaker 1: she is on a two fight win street.

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Speaker 2: Oh Shnead O'Connor, well just ripped up the picture of

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Speaker 2: the pope on SNL.

642
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Kavanaugh, I'm sorry, I'm zony. I mean, nothing

643
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: does compare to her, but to you, yes, I know,

644
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: sorry about that. So for Shanade Kavanaugh, I no, Cyborg

645
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: is not fighting a nineteen eighties and nineties pop star

646
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: from Ireland. She does have to win over Olga rubin

647
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: And and Katerina Lerner Leonner, but these are hardly like a

648
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: level opposition. In fact, to the extenting that she has

649
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: been matched up against them, I would call that Arlene

650
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: Blenco and Leslie Smith or a class opposition for for Bellator. Certainly,

651
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: she lost both of those, one via majority of decision

652
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: and one via split, so she didn't get super blown out,

653
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: but she wasn't really in it either. In the case

654
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: of Cyborg. She and since Amanda Nunez has just coasted,

655
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: she's been beating the balls off of everyone. Leslie Smith

656
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: put up a decent fight for as long fight as

657
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: long as that fight lasted, but it did get stopped

658
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: close to the end of the fifth Arlene Blencoe was

659
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: never really in it. Julia Budd was never really in it.

660
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: It's just hard to know exactly that if Shaneade Kavanaugh

661
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: is in any way in this and probably not the

662
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: thing you brought up that to me is by far,

663
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: by far, the most interesting fight on this card has

664
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: got to be Aaron Pico, and I think that this

665
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: matchmaking is excellent. Aaron Pico, we all know the story.

666
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: Biggest prospect then he was almost was a bust with

667
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: the two losses back to back against Henry Carrales and

668
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: Adam Borich all the way back in twenty nineteen, and

669
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: since then has been slowly rebuilding his game. BC. He

670
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: had a stoppage win in the second round against Daniel Carey,

671
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: did a stoppage win via choke in the first round

672
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 1: against Solo Hatley Junior. Then he beat a gentleman by

673
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: the name of John DeJesus with an overhand right in

674
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: the second round, and then he got a choke in

675
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: the third round anaconda via eight and least. So he

676
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: is not just one foreign ROWBC. He's won all four

677
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: via stoppage, including with both strikes and submissions. This is

678
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: exactly the kind of thing that you want to see.

679
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: He now stands at eight and three. But now is

680
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: the time. BC. You've got eleven fights under your belt,

681
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: plenty of experience, plenty of rebuilding experience. It's time for

682
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: a level up. I know a lot of folks don't

683
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: know the name of Justin Gonzalez, but your summation of

684
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 1: what you saw there is quite correct. Number One, he

685
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: is undefeated. Number two. He fought in Dana White's Tuesday

686
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: Night Contender series back in June of twenty nineteen and

687
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: he won. Then he went to LFA and he won

688
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: a believe it was a title fight in there, because

689
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: that was a fourth round stoppage that he got. Then

690
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: he went to Bellator and fought Taiwan Clarkson, another sort

691
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: of prospect of note and beat him. So now he

692
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: finds himself up against Aaron Pico. But we know Pico

693
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: if he's careful about his range, he's got heavy ground

694
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: and pound, obviously, has phenomenal takedowns. I think his boxing

695
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: has come along.

696
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: What do you need.

697
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: To see from Aaron Pico? Forget the wins and the loss.

698
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: Let's assume he gets the win. What would give you

699
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: confidence again? And Aaron Pico from this performance about his future?

700
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: What does he have to do and show you here?

701
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: Well, he's gonna need Justin Gonzales to be competitive with him.

702
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: And if it is, if this is a you know,

703
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: as good of a fight as the matchmaking looks, I

704
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: want to see the you know, commitment to responsible defense.

705
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: So what we've liked about Aaron Pico's comeback is his

706
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: recommitment to wrestling, to being a little bit safer, to

707
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: leaning on your strength there and not being so in

708
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: love with your power that you get wild. But there

709
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: are still moments in which Pico to set up these

710
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: highlight reel type finishes. He's leaving himself in harm's way

711
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: and you want to see him graduate past that. Obviously, Look,

712
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be a slugger, you're gonna have to

713
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 2: get in harm's way. But I want to see a

714
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: thorough type of type of victory where some of these

715
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: fantastic knockouts cover up you know, the fact that that

716
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: he'll have some hiccups during a fight. I want to

717
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: see a look this. There's no reason, Luke, because he's

718
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: mentally tough, and he's proved that he's mentally tough. Right.

719
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: If he doesn't, this would be a big time fail story. Right,

720
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: three losses in like his first five or six fights.

721
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, biggest prospect in m history. Beltur

722
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: began paying him in, you know, helping develop him while

723
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: he was still in high school. I mean, this is

724
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: a rare situation. I think he's shown you that he

725
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: has everything to I don't want to say completely live

726
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: up to the expectations, because he had as large an

727
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: entrance into this sport of expectations as anyone's ever had.

728
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: Meaning the only way he can live up to that

729
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: is to go undefeated, win titles in multiple weight classes,

730
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: and basically have like a Kayla Harrison type buzz right now,

731
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: which he doesn't have. But what he does have is

732
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 2: is is is reformed, a reformed you know status right now,

733
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 2: and he's dangerous as shit. I just want to see

734
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: him slowly erase any lingering mistakes or holes in his game,

735
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 2: because Luke, when he does step up to the title level,

736
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be next, but it's going to

737
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: be soon. You do know who has the title in

738
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: this division, right one, aj McKee, who's freaking fantastic. A

739
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: fight between these two, I mean it would be amazing,

740
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: but you got to get all of your shit in

741
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: order if you're Aaron Pico before you're ready to fight

742
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 2: that guy, because that guy's super special. That guy's off

743
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: the menu special, Luke, you know what I'm saying.

744
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: So also also former training partners, they've trained together at

745
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: the body Shop.

746
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely so this, you know. And obviously now now Pico's

747
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 2: in New Mexico and riding that giant, that giant horse, Luke,

748
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: you know if you know what I'm talking about. So

749
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: he's a new man. He's happy. I think they kind

750
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: of got his dad a little bit removed from the

751
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: situation who was pushing him into things early. Remember this

752
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: his pro debut at MSG for kind of no reason,

753
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: fought in a weight class above himself against against an

754
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: experienced guy there and Ian Freeman or whatever that Freeman's

755
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: guy's name was. Look I could not be higher on

756
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: Aaron Pico two point zero. But I do need to

757
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: see him use these fights for what they offer him,

758
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: and that's a chance to just really rain everything in.

759
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a great answer. I would just add

760
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: for me, what I'm looking for I think is small

761
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: but at the same time important, which is I want

762
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: to see him comfortable in the pocket. What I have

763
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: noticed from his striking is he has learned a series

764
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: of combinations. He's better about putting the striking battles on

765
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: his terms, But the minute that the fight turns outside

766
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: of his immediate comfort level in the striking department, it's

767
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: right off to the takedown. Now again, that's smart in

768
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Right, it's not going for me

769
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: well on the feet, or I saw something I didn't

770
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: like or whatever. Hey, let's go to my bread and butter.

771
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: Obviously he had the background of collegiate wrestling, or sorry,

772
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: he the background of freestyle wrestling I should say, not

773
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: collegiate prior to getting into MMA, and so you have

774
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of this to lean on, and we

775
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: all know again he has phenomenal ground and pound, and

776
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: I think obviously the submissions have come along great as well.

777
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: But there's a certain amount of unease that he has

778
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: I think getting tagged the way he did, even if

779
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: it's where he won, like against Leandro Ego, but all

780
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: the other ones, like the Corrals fight and so forth,

781
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: there was just a little bit of getting rattled and

782
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: then what that does to his decision making. I always

783
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: go up and say it the same way people like, well,

784
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: no one likes getting punched in the face, right, Well,

785
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: that's true, no one likes getting punched in the face.

786
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: But some people lose their bearing when they get punched

787
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: in the face, and some people don't. We need to

788
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: find a situation where he has a little bit more bearing. Now.

789
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: The best news, of course, would be he can get

790
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: out of the way of the punches. But what I

791
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: mean to say is put yourself in a position where

792
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: you can maximize your striking potential and then potentially as

793
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: an opponent who might accommodate you in that way. Though

794
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: maybe not, but let's see if he does. But if

795
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: he gets hurt, not hurt, I don't want to seem

796
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: get hurt per se. But what I mean to say is,

797
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: if he gets tagged, if he finds in some difficulty,

798
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't mind if there's a reset, but I just

799
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: don't want to see panic. I don't want to see

800
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: a rush to the takedown. I want to see I

801
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: want to see a little bit more bearing in those situations.

802
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: And I think if he can show that the rest

803
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: of his game, the piece is there. We see they're

804
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: they're I mean, I'm not saying they're all the way there,

805
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: but they're pretty close. He does have good takedowns, he

806
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: can get good cardio obviously, with the kind of athleticism

807
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: in the camp that he has, I want to see

808
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: some composure under fire. That's what I'm looking for.

809
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, look, when you are a teenager

810
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: in your world class in multiple different martial arts disciplines,

811
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: and like he told us, you're going in Freddie Roach's

812
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 2: gym and you're sparring Miguel Coto, and you're kind of,

813
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: you know, acting like you belong, You're gonna get pretty

814
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: damn cocky. But look, this is an important fight against

815
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: Justin Gonzalez and his growth. But before we talk about

816
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: making that leap to the title fight, I want to

817
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: see him rematch Adam Borich. And he's told us that

818
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: multiple times that that is the fight that he looks

819
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: at as sort of you know, the al must have

820
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: forgotten moment where he's gonna re remind everybody how great

821
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: he can be. He says, it'll be different, he regrets

822
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: to who he was in that first fight. Bord just had,

823
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: you know, a hiccup or two, but is still that dude.

824
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: I think that's the fight that will let us know

825
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: if he passes this test on Friday, if he's really

826
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: ready for the title.

827
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: And also just consider, like you know, I bag on

828
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: Belatore when I think it's important, but I gotta give

829
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: them a little bit of credit here, or at least

830
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: recognize what value they might have if you're Aaron Pico,

831
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: if he you know, the UFC is not in the

832
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: business of signing guys at O and O or two

833
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: and oh anymore or less. It's extremely rare cases. You know,

834
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: the best you're going to get that three and one

835
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: and now four and one Alex Pereira. But just to

836
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: point out, with the setback that Pico had, he was

837
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: able to go to a promoter who can get him

838
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: frankly like regional level fighters, which is what I'm arguing

839
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: explicitly he needed after those losses to really get the

840
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: confidence back. But now it is time to begin to

841
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: put those four wins and the four camps that came

842
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: with it, in the four walkouts and all those experiences

843
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: together towards a more difficult challenge, which I think justin

844
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: Justin guns Out Pallas can very much win that fight,

845
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: and for those reasons, I love this matchup. But he

846
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: was lucky he was able to reset under this promotional banner.

847
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: It's a similar kind of situation where aj McKee didn't

848
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: need the reset, but he could get all of the

849
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: pieces of the building block from block, excuse me, from

850
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: literally his first fight in the organization tool up to

851
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: his last.

852
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: And before anyone Dead Wrongs meet Zach Freeman, who got

853
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: the pro debut win over Aaron Pico.

854
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: There, Luke, go ahead. I had two more things I

855
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: wanted to point out in this card.

856
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: Well I'm gonna point out one of them back at

857
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: you a second time.

858
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Why we're putting.

859
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: Valerie Lareda on the prelimbs. I mean, I know she's

860
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 2: only three and one and coming off her first pro defeat,

861
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: a three round decision lost to Hannah Guy, but she

862
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: has gotten to a level of Musty TV. Do you

863
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: think this will be fixed by Friday? I'm just looking

864
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: at Wikipedia at the moment.

865
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Could be she's taken on Taylor Turner, who has a

866
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: sub five hundred record. I think, you know, Valerie, sitting

867
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: at just four fights, is not really ready for the

868
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: upper end or even the middle end of that vision

869
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: quite frankly, and needs plenty of time. So maybe they

870
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: called her. I think she took this fight, even on

871
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: short notice. I think she was just looking to get right.

872
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: I don't have a good answer for you. I don't know.

873
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: We'd have to speak to her or her management to

874
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: get a better understanding of things. I'll say this, it's

875
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: a perfectly winnable fight. She should not lose this, you know,

876
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth.

877
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: Turner has soccer mom vibes. She's a veteran of the

878
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: belt arcade. She defeated former boxing champion, had her hardy

879
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: and send her into MMA retirement by stoppage. But then Luke,

880
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: she got handled in the first round against Alejandra Lara.

881
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 2: So this is a very winnable fight for Lareda, maybe

882
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: even by stoppage with something, you know, something spectacular. But

883
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 2: I don't think You're looking for the spectacular in this one, right, right, Luke.

884
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: You want to see a complete effort.

885
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to see soup to nuts, the whole

886
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: array of skills that she has to win this. I mean,

887
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: she's gonna lean on her takwondo and striking, which is fine,

888
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: but let's see some good takedown defense. Let's see some

889
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: good lateral movement. Let's see some of those taekwondo weapons

890
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: not materialized later in fights, but a little bit earlier.

891
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: This is what building block experiences are for. One more note.

892
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: You're not saying less ig more jim time. You're not

893
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: going to that level.

894
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: If I would have said that had I felt that way,

895
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: but I don't feel that way, so I didn't say it, right,

896
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: That's kind of how it works.

897
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: One more note, A simple note.

898
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: One more note on the card to pay attention to.

899
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't know much about Roman for Farraldo, he's also undefeated.

900
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: But Cody Law. Cody Law is an undefeated featherweight out

901
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: of att who looks like he's the real deal. Holy Field.

902
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: He's just very early in his development, so we don't know.

903
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: But that's another guy. This is gonna be his fifth fight.

904
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: He's not too far from around in the corner and

905
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: getting some name opponents as well. Keep an eye Cody

906
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: Law a very good fighter, and.

907
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: I can already see the texts and messages coming in.

908
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: They spent longer on the bill to R card than

909
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: they did the UFC. But Steve Mowory is an unbeatn

910
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: heavyweight who's on this main card as well, Luke. He's

911
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: about six eight or something, and he's looked pretty good

912
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: up the ranks. They're out of a Hard Knocks or

913
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: whatever they call that Sanford MMA these days, So that's

914
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: a guide a lot to watch for the future there

915
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: in the heavyweight division for both.

916
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not that there's not like the UFC has

917
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: all together probably better fights certainly all the way down

918
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: the card. You can say that's true, no mean, no

919
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: doubt about it. That's almost always going to be true

920
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: with UFC. But the story of Aaron Pico, to me,

921
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: is much more interesting than a lot of the stories

922
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: absent the main event for UFC. So I can grant

923
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: that the card for UFC is better, but I do

924
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: think that that Aaron Pico story is one of the

925
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: more interesting stories frankly in MMA all right. Speaking of

926
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: next fights, BC, this one was kind of interesting and

927
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: someone asked me about it, and I didn't think much

928
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: about it until I was forced to, and I was like, wow,

929
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: that is a really good idea. Is Michael Chandler the

930
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: right next opponent for Connor McGregor. So, Michael Chandler, as

931
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: we all know, fought Justin Gaates you over the weekend

932
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: and then went and took to Twitter. I believe we

933
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: have the tweets if we can see them. I'm told

934
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: we have the tweets. Let's see if they can pull

935
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: them up. Pull them up.

936
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: The gaff can cook up for us.

937
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: Let's see what on the ones and twos if they could,

938
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: you guys have the tweets. Here we go twenty twenty two.

939
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: And then there was a response, I'm down at some

940
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: stage for sure. Great fight the other night, Mike, congrats.

941
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: Now he didn't say no, BC, but he did say

942
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: at some stage would you like to see Michael Chandler

943
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: fight Connor McGregor upon his return?

944
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: I mean I'd like to see them fight every day

945
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: of the week, Luke, eight days a week in fact,

946
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: with the Fab four there. But here's the deal with

947
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: the UFC This is a very interesting decision on how

948
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: you book Connor Mcreigor on this comeback. It's not just

949
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: two straight stoppage defeats granted to Dustin Pourier, but still

950
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: brand wise that's a big deal. But this injury which

951
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: leads a lot of unknown Luke, I think all signs

952
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: if Nate Diaz gets resigned, if he does fight in December,

953
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 2: that it really feels like part of re signing Nate

954
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: for the UFC would be to guarantee him the third

955
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: Connor fight early next year, you know, spring next year,

956
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: And that would seem like the right fight right now

957
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: for Connor because it's certainly winnable provided he's healthy. It's

958
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: at the same time, like I don't know, there's a

959
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: lot of reasons why that could and maybe even should

960
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: be next. But if you're going to gamble, if you're

961
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: gonna put Connor in there with a with a live body,

962
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: and let's not to say that's Nate, that Nate isn't

963
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: a live body. Look, he just he narrowly beat you

964
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: know Edwards last time. I mean he could still do

965
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 2: some things, but a live body, like Michael Chandler, he's

966
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: also extremely vulnerable in terms of you know, being in

967
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: there to be stopped. This could be an epic shootout

968
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 2: and Luke, while the potential for brand you know resuscitation

969
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: against Nate Diez with a win is certainly strong for Connor,

970
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: even given their age. Imagine if he went in there

971
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: and knocked Michael Chandler out. That might be the best

972
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: risk reward proposition if you are only looking at this

973
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: from the standpoint of how do we get Connor back

974
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 2: into it short of giving him a cowboy like soft

975
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: comeback fight, which again they rarely ever do. Look, that'd

976
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: be a hell of a fight. That would be one

977
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: of those where it's like, I don't care. Make it

978
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: a non title pay per view main event. It's a

979
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: guaranteed slugfest. Either guy could win at any time. Luke,

980
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: I would love that shit. But that's pretty danmous to

981
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: ask you, that's pretty dangerous. Just the same dude.

982
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: Yes, So let me ask you, if you're Connor McGregor,

983
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: why would you take the Michael Chandler fight right Because

984
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be exciting, that's good, fans will

985
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: be up for it, winnable, I think you might say,

986
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: But there's some risks there too. You could get knocked

987
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: out in that fight. He could take you down and

988
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: wrestle you, especially if it's three rounds. So how would

989
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: you advise if you are advising McGregor in terms of

990
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: the costs and the benefits and which one to you?

991
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: If you're just speaking for McGregor's perspective, do the benefits

992
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: outweigh the risks If.

993
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: You're McGregor, you know, obviously can come down to money.

994
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: But again, I just really think it's time for UFC

995
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: to cash that nat has lottery ticket. And again I

996
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 2: think that will be part of how they resign him,

997
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 2: hanging that carrot over there for Nate to prevent him

998
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: from going to Bellator or Triller or wherever the hell

999
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 2: he's going. You know, you know what I'm saying there.

1000
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: If you're Connor though, Luke, he's always been and it's

1001
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: part of what makes him great. But as his skills slip,

1002
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: it could be part of what helps him slip quicker

1003
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: is his confidence level is always through the roof when

1004
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 2: he looks at another man and says to himself, oh,

1005
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: I can beat him. And look with Michael Chandler, even

1006
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: despite his strong wrestling ability, which could make it a

1007
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: long night for Connor. If you're Connor, you look at

1008
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: that and see the holes. You say, look, I don't

1009
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: look Connor doesn't get one punched. Yeah, he got stopped

1010
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: by Dustin cleanly, clearly. No, you know, no controversy. Sometimes

1011
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: his losses tend to be more stamina induced, but nobody

1012
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: comes in there and cleans his clock. Habib came close

1013
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: in that second round when he dropped him. But if

1014
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: you're Connor, you believe that that's kind of the perfect

1015
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: style fight for you. A guy who's gonna come guns blazing,

1016
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: and with your counter style you can pick that up

1017
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: and land the perfect blow. I also think of your Connor.

1018
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: You maybe think Chandler will do a little gentleman's agreement

1019
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 2: and not wrestle them. That's coming from me, no one else, Luke.

1020
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: But I know Michael Chandler. He wants a chance to

1021
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: go to go out there and win the big one.

1022
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna come out with a puncher's chance

1023
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 2: to do that. So I think of your Connor. You'll

1024
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: take that for the right money. But Luke, I'm telling

1025
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: you it's gotta be, Nate, It's gotta be. It just

1026
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: makes so much sense across the board for a guy

1027
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: coming off two defeats, and you're gonna have to catch

1028
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: this in eventually. If you wait too much longer, it's

1029
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: not gonna have much life left to it.

1030
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: I agree. I think this is the moment to pull

1031
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: that to pull that card. I think for all the

1032
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: reasons you are articulated, there are plenty of reasons to

1033
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: make it again. Dude, Connor McGregor is not hard to match.

1034
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: Make four, I mean across two divisions and then even

1035
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: catchwights in between. There's a ton of ways you could go,

1036
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: and all of them would be good. The Michael Chandler

1037
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: fight might be one of the better permutations for sure.

1038
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: But I agree with you. If I'm just thinking about

1039
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: the UFC, you can get a lot of what Chandler

1040
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: versus McGregor brings you. With Chandler versus Sorry, with McGregor

1041
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: versus Daz Das is not the same as Chandler, No,

1042
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: not even close. But do you get the action quotient?

1043
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: Do you get the anticipation quotient and the pre fight build?

1044
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: You get all of that, plus you get more star power.

1045
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: Plus you already know Connor can beat him. He's literally

1046
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: already done it, and neither guy's exactly at his peak,

1047
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: so you know whenning a loss becomes forgivable, and these

1048
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: guys are kind of in a point where that's already

1049
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: the case. Although even Chandler, I think, is getting to

1050
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: a point where, like the record doesn't matter anymore. I

1051
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: don't think he's hunting exactly like best guy in the world.

1052
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: He's hunting the biggest game on the biggest night, which

1053
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: is why for him the McGregor fight makes a ton

1054
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: of sense. But I'm with you, you couldn't go wrong

1055
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: if you made Chandler versus McGregor impossible. But I don't

1056
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: know that the equation still acts up more favorably for

1057
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: all the parties than McGregor versus Diaz. Three. That one

1058
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: seems to me your biggest winner by far.

1059
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: Look, I got an interesting thing to ask you. I

1060
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: was gonna ask you if Connor McGregor comes back in

1061
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: his comeback fight. Let's say it's this May ish of

1062
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: next year, and let's say he wins regardless of who

1063
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: it is, Right, do you think he closes twenty twenty

1064
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 2: two fighting for the lightweight title? And I think your

1065
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 2: answer would be giving his brand all that a win. Look,

1066
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: nobody gets resuscitated with a single win like Connor McGregor.

1067
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: Look at the Cowboy fight, right, it would make sense, right,

1068
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: the winner of Olivera and Pourier. But how about this?

1069
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: Luke Chale Sunning came out in regards to the main

1070
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: event last weekend and says, look, Usman's great, but like

1071
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: almost like slow the role on chasing GSP. He goes,

1072
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: I think Usman's gonna retire sooner than you guys realize.

1073
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: And you can package that with comments Usman made after

1074
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: the fight about I don't know what my next move is.

1075
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: My next move is to go home and be with

1076
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: my daughter because she's not gonna care how much money

1077
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: I'm making. She's gonna say why were you not there?

1078
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 2: And for anyone who's a dad, that's a touching moment,

1079
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: a reminder of you know, going too all in on

1080
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: your job and being too focused and missing what's right

1081
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: in front of you. So, Luke, let's say that's true.

1082
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: Let's say Usman, who is fresh off three straight is

1083
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: it three straight rematch or two straight rematches? And really

1084
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 2: the possibility of a third rematch potentially against Leon Edwards,

1085
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: who knows there isn't in outside of Hamzat Chimaya, who

1086
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: Dana White says will not be next. There's no like

1087
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: automatic that's the guy. Right. We're sort of like, could

1088
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: it be Kiesa? Could it be whoever? Could you see

1089
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor to close twenty twenty two fighting for the

1090
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: welterweight title. I know we're gonna groan at that. I

1091
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: know we've talked about this before, but I brought shell

1092
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: Sonnon into this discussion because he got a light heavyweight

1093
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: title shot against John Jones that was completely undeserved, a

1094
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: weight class above is his best weight, simply because he sells.

1095
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: Would they do that shit in twenty twenty two? Could

1096
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: that be Kamaru's retirement fight?

1097
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: Luke? Not yet? No. I don't think they give it

1098
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: to Usman. No. I think Usbin does horrible, horrible things

1099
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: to McGregor, and I think they know that.

1100
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 2: Is there any part of McGregor that talks himself into

1101
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: believing he can win that because the third title is

1102
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: at stake and Ushwan's a wrestler, you know what I'm saying.

1103
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: On the McGregor side, sure, I think he might believe that.

1104
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: I think he might try and lobby for it. I

1105
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: can see that argument from your perspective as it relates

1106
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: to McGregor and even Kamara. Like Kamara is that like

1107
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: I want to fight Canelo, Like Canelo would do horrible

1108
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 1: things to him too, but you know, the money would

1109
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: be so good. Who gives a shit kind of thing.

1110
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: But from the UFC's perspective, I mean, just feeding him

1111
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: too to usman would be I mean, okay, so I'll

1112
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: put it this way. If he comes back at one

1113
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: seventy and just looks like fucking dynamite, right, Let's say

1114
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: they pulled the trigger on that third DS fight and

1115
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: they make it at one seventy because the first two,

1116
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: of course, we're at one seventy. And he goes in

1117
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: there and he's bouncing, and he looks like the Connor

1118
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: from UFC two o five, the guy who gave Eddie

1119
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: Alvarez da business. Right, If he looks like that, certainly

1120
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: you're you know this as well as I do. Not

1121
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: quite anything, but almost anything is possible. At that point.

1122
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: I would still bet against it, but I will I

1123
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: will concede as impossible as that seems. Right now, the

1124
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: fight game changes fast, and if he comes out and

1125
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: looks like a million bucks in a one to seventy fight,

1126
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: it is possible. I just feel like BC, I just

1127
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: feel like they know that Kamara would do damaging things

1128
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: to h him.

1129
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 2: They don't care. They knew that John Jones was gonna

1130
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: beat the shit out of Jail. They made that one.

1131
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: Luke Jail was never the star. Connor is. No one

1132
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: is the star that Connor is big difference.

1133
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if you're the UFC and youth in your

1134
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: you might think, Look, that loss won't really count. It's

1135
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: in the welterweight division, it's against the potential goat in Kamaru.

1136
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: There's a lot of money to be made. Look that

1137
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: shit would sell.

1138
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't mean it that way. What I mean

1139
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: to say is no, I don't mean it that way.

1140
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: I mean what I'm trying to tell you is I

1141
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: think Kamar literally hurts him enough to potentially alter his career.

1142
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't think. I don't think you risk that.

1143
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: I mean I think he beats the fuck out of him,

1144
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: So I don't think you risk that at all. That's it.

1145
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: That's why that would be the major concern, because otherwise

1146
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: you're printing money and every other way you're printing money

1147
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: except when the reality hits and then Kamaru thrashes him. Okaya, right, yeah, perfect, okay, BC,

1148
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: this was one you were really interested in. But I

1149
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: did I did my due diligence. I I did some

1150
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: research for today's show. So Triller is trying something called

1151
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: triad combat. Sounds like something from you know, uh, some

1152
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: Indonesian martial arts movie. But nevertheless, it's going to be

1153
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: in a triangular ring, so it'll have the ring ropes.

1154
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: Metallica is going to be playing. I don't quite have

1155
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: the date in front of me here, BC, but here's

1156
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: the card, and you can help us out with some

1157
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: of these because a lot of more boxers. Frankmuir versus

1158
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: Kubrat pulv Pool of course, fought Anthony Joshua not too

1159
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: long ago. Matt Mitrion, formerly of UFC and Bellatore Fame,

1160
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: fights Alexander Flores. Mike Perry, yes, the Mike Perry takes

1161
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: on Sakio Bica. Derek Compost, formerly of Bellatore, takes on

1162
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: Brian Vera. Albert Tumanov, who by the way, is actually

1163
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: still a good fighter, takes on Scott Simon.

1164
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 2: Steve Sigmund that's a that's an error in the spread.

1165
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: He was a journeyman boxer.

1166
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: Yep okay. And then Steve Graham takes on Henry Jigliotti.

1167
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce the Italian Gigliotti takes

1168
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: place on the twenty seventh of this month, I guess.

1169
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: So here's the deal, Lucas. I am interested, but it

1170
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: really is to just sort of watch the last breath

1171
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: of triller as they try. I can't, I can't. I

1172
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: can't tell if this is like a I don't want

1173
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: to say impressive pivot, because there's nothing impressive about this.

1174
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: It's a it's an ambitious pivot. It's also a desperate one.

1175
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. If you've heard of the TRYA

1176
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 2: or Try Gone before, it's because that other Bare Knuckle

1177
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: Federation byb the one that Dota five thousand runs, that Polymelanaji,

1178
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: Mike Goldberg, Al Bernstein, Claudia Tree hoos all and out.

1179
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 2: They got it like an all star Hall of Fame

1180
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: announce crew. Really it's just bare knuckle boxing and a

1181
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: triangular ring. This is taking that with what bk FC

1182
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: is already doing and essentially. But the only hook here

1183
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: is that they are going out of their way to

1184
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: market boxer versus MMA, and they're they're actually selling this

1185
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 2: as the rule set will level the playing field between

1186
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: both sports, because not only will there be a triangular

1187
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: ring where you can't hide, but it'll be modified gloves

1188
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: somewhere between the four ounces of MMA and the what

1189
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: you know, eight or ten ounces depending on the way

1190
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: class in boxing, and you'll allow holding like you already

1191
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 2: see in BKFC and dirty boxing. So Luke, it's really nothing.

1192
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: Also, spinning backfirst, I saw the rule set that is

1193
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: a LOA.

1194
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: So it's not that different, especially the triangular thing, which

1195
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: good god byb is already doing. Not like anyone's really

1196
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 2: following that too closely, But it's nothing new. But it's

1197
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: like a desperation pivot. But because of the names here,

1198
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: not that I'm overjoyed to see Metallica play the same

1199
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: anger album you know in some trailer card, the pivot

1200
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: away from rap battles to Metallica and bringing in a

1201
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: mixture of washed MMA and boxing names and putting them

1202
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: against each other. Look, it's gonna be worth one time

1203
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: tuning in and watching it. It is what it is.

1204
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how this rule set, which

1205
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 2: if we only go by BKFC MMA practitioners have had

1206
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: much more success in this rule set than boxers, But

1207
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: it's because of the bare knuckle I think, than anything.

1208
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: Because bare knuckle fighting is different than regular traditional combat

1209
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: sports because of how easily you can break your hand.

1210
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: You really have to be selective with your shots. You

1211
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: can't just load up all the time. We are gonna

1212
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: have gloves here, so this will be different. I have

1213
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: no idea in the end, washed frankmir against a Kubrat

1214
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: Pulev who still's got some gas in the tank and

1215
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: just fought Anthony Joshua as you mentioned, I don't know.

1216
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: It seems to me like that's gonna be a bad

1217
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: knight for Frank Muir. But I'm actually kind of interested

1218
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: to seeing if these rule sets level the playing field

1219
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: at all. Mike Perry fighting, I'm there, and he's fating

1220
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,959
Speaker 2: a facing a very faded, very faded Saki Obka. Every

1221
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: other boxer on this card, Luke is really washed as shit,

1222
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: and some of them have had very little cups of

1223
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: coffee at the top, like a Brian Vera who fought

1224
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: Chavis Junior and some other big names, but is really

1225
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: a journeyman. But you know there's enough names that we

1226
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: know on here that Luke. Is this ambitious at all?

1227
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: Or is this full on desperation in your eyes?

1228
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: No, this is this is the saddest shit on earth. Listen.

1229
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: I have followed I have followed enough combat sports where

1230
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: if you see a company struggling and then their pivot

1231
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: is to be like, Okay, here's check it out. We're

1232
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: gonna redo the fighting surface. That's the last gas before

1233
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: total bankruptcy or you know, bowing out of this or

1234
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. I mean, I just

1235
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: can't overstate this is triller to the nth degree. A

1236
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: confused idea on a confused business rollout with a confused

1237
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: fan proposition and a confusing time. I mean, everything about

1238
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: what they do is nothing is coherent, nothing is cogent.

1239
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: It's just is kind of all by the seat of

1240
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: your pants. Now when if you I tweeted it out

1241
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: Sean Weelock, who they've who I do respect quite a bit.

1242
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: They've hired him to be like their rules guy over there,

1243
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: and he had pitched score too. Yeah, Yeah, they have

1244
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: pitched what what they're doing as a like the middle

1245
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: ground between boxing and MMA, and it's like, dude, who

1246
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: the fuck was looking for that?

1247
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, Well, dude, BKFC is already doing that,

1248
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: so you know, so is BYB. So it's like there's

1249
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: nothing new here, you.

1250
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: Know, right, except that the rules are slightly different and

1251
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: there's a little bit more you can do. And you

1252
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: know BKFC has like sort of the circular ring versus

1253
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: the now this one is going to be angle angular.

1254
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: But in any case, you know, you have a situation

1255
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: here where some of these guys are not done, right.

1256
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: Pool Lev is not done, Mike Perry's not done, and

1257
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: Albu Chumenov's not done. But almost everyone else on that

1258
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: card is on an epic losing streak or has been

1259
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: done as a top level competitor for some time. And

1260
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: I just want to go back to this one more time, folks.

1261
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: Triller at its core, what is it? It is an

1262
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: app on your phone that is a TikTok competitor. Their

1263
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: number one video on YouTube I looked it up was

1264
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: an ad they put out on their own YouTube channel

1265
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, and everything else that they have on

1266
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: that Triller YouTube channel is a bizarre mixture of here's

1267
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg, Here's a business proposition for certain kinds of

1268
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: apps and certain kinds of countries. Here's a sit down

1269
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: with a random celebrity. None of it makes sense. None

1270
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: of it is together, none of it is part of

1271
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: a cohesive whole. It's just part of some weird They

1272
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: have money, and they have people who don't know how

1273
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: this movie ends, thinking they can avoid how this movie ends.

1274
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: And the people who know how this movie ends are

1275
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: taking the money and not telling them how this movie

1276
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: is going to end, which I don't blame them for.

1277
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: So let me tell you how this movie is going

1278
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: to end. I don't know how many of these events

1279
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: are going to happen. This will not save Triller, This

1280
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: will die out too. So catch it while you can.

1281
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: I guess.

1282
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: Looks like have you've ever seen the end of a

1283
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: million Dollar Baby? That's how this movie ends? Ish Clint

1284
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: Eastwood pulling the plug spoiler alert, never watching that shit again.

1285
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: I love in the rundown that it says, key question,

1286
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: is this sad interesting or interestingly sad? I'm gonna go

1287
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: with interestingly sad, And the only reason why I'm holding

1288
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: out a little bit of hope is I do feel

1289
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: they have a better collection of names here then BKFC

1290
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: or BYB has ever had, like Frankmuir versus Kuprop who

1291
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: live a mildly interesting So Luke, here's the best case scenario.

1292
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: And by the way, BYB has the try gone, which

1293
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: is like a a cage, so this is a ring.

1294
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 2: It's a little bit different, still basically the same. If

1295
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: this promotes Luke what other people have tried to promote

1296
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: in the past, but it never really worked, which is okay.

1297
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: Fighting's fun, but there's too much strategy and defense in

1298
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: fighting at times, and people get bored by it. And

1299
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: if you're a boxing fan, maybe you don't like or

1300
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: get the ground game in MMA. So let's essentially create

1301
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: phone booth fighting. And if you could get names and

1302
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: put him in a phone booth fighting settlement that only

1303
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: promises violence. Remember b KB tried this about five years

1304
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: ago bare knuckle boxing. They had that pit where like

1305
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: they had handwraps but like the knuckle was exposed and like, uh,

1306
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: actually Brian Vera fought in that and Gab Brizzatto. It

1307
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: didn't go anywhere. It was mildly interesting. Looke. If Frank Miri,

1308
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: Kubrock Whulev go in there and put on a war,

1309
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: if Matt Mitrion gets you know, sent to hell in

1310
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 2: ten seconds, if Mike Perry and Sakiobka put on a war,

1311
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 2: there is a place in this world for washed names

1312
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 2: to show up. Hey, that's why when I used to pitch,

1313
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: I don't pitch anymore because I've had enough with the

1314
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 2: old guy fights, like the real old guy fights, like

1315
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: the forty five and overfights. Right, I've had enough of them,

1316
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, Triller. I've had enough. But I used to pitch.

1317
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: Why don't we do senior boxing where the rounds are shorter,

1318
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: the ring is smaller, and it's basically like, go in

1319
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: there and throw punches and somebody's gonna land a big one,

1320
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 2: someone's gonna fall, and then the fight's over. Is there

1321
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: any chance in your eyes, Luke, that this crossover between

1322
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: MMA and boxing, putting them together could get interesting if

1323
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: these are absolute wars? No, no, yeah, it will only

1324
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: be sad. You're right, it'll only be sad. Let's move on.

1325
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: That's it, that's it, Yeah, there's there's I mean, listen,

1326
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: you might get some decent fights on the cord. You

1327
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: might to get some fun ass crazy back and forth.

1328
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: This is a bridge, in the words of Sarah Palin,

1329
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: to nowhere. This is a bridge to nowhere.

1330
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: She can see the USSR from her kitchen, dude, all right, she.

1331
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: Can She can go back in time from her kitchen.

1332
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: Is that what she can do?

1333
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: She could see the hammer and the sick brother.

1334
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's do some quick hitters and we'll wrap

1335
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: up here and we'll do some fans subs. First things first,

1336
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: PC Rose dam Unis spoke out and she said, Carla

1337
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: Esparza and the rematch, of course, is the only thing

1338
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: that makes sense tru or false. Do you agree with her?

1339
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? Rankings wise, yeah, I mean, Yoanna wants big money

1340
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: in an instant title shot. But as much as I

1341
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 2: would pop to see Rose JJ three, there's no call

1342
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 2: for it right now. So yeah, this is it. But

1343
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 2: spars is what five fight win streak. I know there's

1344
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: been a couple of split decisions in there, but that

1345
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: stoppage went. Look who did she beat her most recent

1346
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: when she ground and pounded the shit out of them?

1347
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: Who is that person?

1348
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: I'll pull it up now here. I'm not sure off

1349
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: the top of mind.

1350
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 2: I mean, she looked violent, reborn ready. I know she's

1351
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: like thirty three, but she's a different She's made a

1352
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: nice pivot because Aspars obviously fought the inaugural title. Yes,

1353
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: who was looking great entering that fight. You know they

1354
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 2: fought in the inaugural one in twenty fourteen. Luke I

1355
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: was there that night. Great car that tough finale December

1356
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: twenty fourth she inside the uh what was that the

1357
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: joint at the hard Rock one of those places, and

1358
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: you know there was a different time. I'll give Carla

1359
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: a lot of credit for evolving her game to this point.

1360
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 2: I love the storyline. It's the fight that makes sense.

1361
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: Next topic, Okay, I agree with that one. By the way,

1362
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: I think that's the only one that makes sense. David

1363
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: Benavitez is back against Cayron. I think how you pronounce it, Davis? Yeah,

1364
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: give us the number one thing to understand about this fight?

1365
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: What's the hook?

1366
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: Well here, it's unfortunate.

1367
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: Here.

1368
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: This is David Benavidez's two time former WBC super middleweight champion,

1369
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: was the youngest champion in this division's history. Unfortunately, he's

1370
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,919
Speaker 2: lost his belt twice. One to cocaine, one to missing weight.

1371
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: But Luke, you and I talk about the sky all

1372
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 2: the time. Must see Frickin' TV out of Arizona. Mexican

1373
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 2: American fighter tall for the division and just comes with it,

1374
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 2: has some craft, but loves to brawl. He was supposed

1375
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 2: to be fighting jose Uzskatagi. It was gonna be former champions,

1376
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: a nice potential action fight. Who's Katagee tested positive? So

1377
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 2: Cairo and Davis slides in. But here's the deal. Davis

1378
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: fought Anthony Durell, the same guy who had a big

1379
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: knockout on in the Canelo comin his last fight as

1380
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: an unknown, fought him to a draw on a fun fight.

1381
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: So it's pretty interesting here that this one's gonna be

1382
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: fun to watch. The hook here is that this is

1383
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 2: a Benavita's home showcase in Phoenix to go on to

1384
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: bigger things. The question here, Luke, is what are those

1385
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: bigger things? Because I would love to see him against

1386
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: Kleb Plant. And if you're not following boxing close enough,

1387
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 2: David Benavitez and Kleb Plant have had many public times

1388
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: where they had to be separated with cameras around, and

1389
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: they nearly went to war over beefs. And then there's Canelo. Luke,

1390
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: Canelo's got a big decision about his may comeback. Will

1391
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 2: it be one seventy five, Will it be a triple

1392
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: G trilogy on his own or will he double down

1393
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 2: on what he said, which is, look, I love working

1394
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: with PBC in showtime, you know, first time in years

1395
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: and this was great. Will he entertain the idea of

1396
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: let's look at this marketable group of one sixty eight

1397
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: or David Benavidez, maybe Jamal Charlo moving up. Could you

1398
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: imagine Sinko Demayo weekend in Vegas, the Mexican fans going

1399
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: sick for the biggest star in the sport, the Mexican

1400
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 2: icon Canelo against unbeaten Mexican American David Benavitez, who comes

1401
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: with that style. And you have said many a time, Luke,

1402
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: tell me if I'm wrong, might have Of all the

1403
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: remaining players, but Turviev's got some exclusively separate unique skills

1404
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 2: from the group. Although he's thirty six. Benavitez, who's in

1405
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: his young prime, might be the guy with the motor,

1406
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: the balls, the size, the activity to give Canelo trouble.

1407
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: He can be gritty when he needs to. He's slick

1408
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: when he needs to be. He can march forward, he

1409
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: can fight backing up. He's good against the ropes. He's

1410
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: good and close. He's got excellent accuracy and handspeed. His

1411
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: whole problem he see, as you indicate, he's just been

1412
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal talent in the ring, and he's been

1413
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: something of a fuck up outside of it. We covered

1414
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: his first way in during the pandemic when he came

1415
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: in and he missed weight, and we were like, now, well,

1416
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: you granted it was his first time. They didn't have

1417
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: access to the sauna because this is when COVID restrictions

1418
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: were at their most, you know, over the top, and

1419
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: people were just trying to figure stuff out. Okay, he

1420
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: didn't get a great hand that way, but still, man,

1421
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: you gotta fucking make weight. You gotta make weight. You're

1422
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: losing titles on the scale. It's just absurd. But dude,

1423
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: when he gets in there, for folks who haven't seen him,

1424
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: he doesn't look like a bodybuilder, but when the hands

1425
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: start going, dude, these opponents really cannot do much about it.

1426
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: He truly, I mean this, he's not ready for it.

1427
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: Yet I would like to see him win this one BC,

1428
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: and I think he needs a big one in between

1429
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: now and any potential Canelo showdown. But if he can

1430
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: get one or two big fights, I think he can

1431
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: showcase his scale. If he could stand in the straight

1432
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: and narrow, he is absolutely somebody who could give Canelo

1433
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: problems at one hundred and sixty eight. And I'm not

1434
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: sure that I wouldn't pick him to win. He's that

1435
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: and look, but but he's got he's got to get

1436
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: straightened out.

1437
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 2: And he's unbeaten with, you know, a former champion, So

1438
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: that's extremely syllable on a single DeMaio weekend to pack

1439
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: that house. And by the way, do you see the

1440
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 2: Canelo gate It was like something like seventeen million or

1441
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 2: some shit. I mean, that's yes, seventeen million. Oh, I'm

1442
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: not sure.

1443
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 1: I'm not. There was a lot of walk up tickets

1444
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: at the end, so obviously you're selling to a lot

1445
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: of the you know, the casino whales and whatnot. But

1446
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, for a smaller venue that wasn't Team Mobile boy,

1447
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: they fucking pulled in a huge gait on that card.

1448
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 2: David Benavidez, his older brother Jose Benavidez Junior. He once

1449
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 2: fought Terrence Crawford for the welterweight title and put on

1450
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: a decent showing before being stopped in the final round. Luke,

1451
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 2: he is no longer with top rank now he's with

1452
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 2: the PBC, so he'll be the cole main event in

1453
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 2: this double Benavidez homecoming on Saturday. Jose's a He's a

1454
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: good fighter. He's had some leg injuries which held him back,

1455
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: But Luke, Jose Benavidez is a hot head. I love

1456
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: watching him fight. He fights with spite and anger, so

1457
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: this is worth watching on Saturday night.

1458
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: And his brother fights with all the skill in the world.

1459
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: Let's see him apply it on Saturday. OKBCE, we got

1460
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: two de Zone cards coming up this weekend, but the

1461
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 1: one that it's got me hot under the collar has

1462
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: got to be Gay Rizzotto ticket on Jimei Mungia. Mungia

1463
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: a phenomenal puncher in that division. Gabrizatto ending up in

1464
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: this position by virtue of a KO of the Year

1465
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: one hit or quitter candidate in a fight that I

1466
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 1: think you would agree wasn't supposed to win, not only

1467
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 1: wins it. He ice is the guy face first. But

1468
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: your consolation prize is you gotta go fight this hammer

1469
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: with a big punching power. Correct.

1470
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a fun ass fight.

1471
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: Now.

1472
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 2: If you don't know Gabrizatto, he's long been the back

1473
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: door journeyman who has never gotten the promotional push, typically

1474
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 2: loses close decisions and fights against big names where you're like, man,

1475
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 2: I feel like Gabe won that. Yet he's like the

1476
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: fighters fighter. I think he's got like ten or twelve losses, Luke,

1477
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: but he's always in every fight he's in. He's done

1478
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 2: some acting in the what was he in the first

1479
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: Creed movie? He's in his late thirties. He went in

1480
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 2: there against Beck the bully, who's a big time prospect,

1481
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 2: and he knocked him the hell out, which was as

1482
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 2: surprising as we've seen. But to be fair, Gabrizato fought

1483
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 2: Danny Jacobs in his last fight before that, and we

1484
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: all thought he deserved the decision in a very close fight.

1485
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,799
Speaker 2: So this is gonna be a good test for Haimi Mongia,

1486
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 2: who we know is straight ahead all the time. Let's

1487
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 2: never forget about Mongia. By the way, Luke in the

1488
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 2: overall middleweight super middleweight discussion even someday toward a Canelo fight. Right,

1489
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 2: he's unbeat and he fights, He's from Mexico. He fights

1490
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: such an exciting style. This is gonna be a good fight.

1491
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: And I you know, Gay Brizato has been so close

1492
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 2: to winning the big one for so long. He goes

1493
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: out there and beat Tommy Mangia like that's the biggest

1494
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: win of his career by far. You're gonna see action.

1495
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun, Luke, what is the other design card?

1496
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: I kind of forgot off the top.

1497
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: Of my head. I'm not sure. I've looked it up

1498
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: on bat left hook. I don't see. It's not one

1499
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: of the major ones. I think there's Yeah, I'm not sure.

1500
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: It's just the older one I'm paying attention to. Is

1501
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: that one?

1502
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, we don't need to talk about it here.

1503
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,839
Speaker 1: What else you goot, Luke, Last, but not least, Frankie

1504
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 1: Edgar has said he is this undecided, I should say

1505
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: undecided our retirement and apparently had recent hip surgery. Now.

1506
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: He also said that, you know, he thought that the

1507
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: referee he knew was gonna shut him down quickly, and

1508
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: that the whole stoppage was unjustified. It's like, dude, here's

1509
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: the thing about Frankie Man, he is one of the

1510
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: more resilient fighters you will ever see in combat sports.

1511
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: And I mean that right what he did. For example,

1512
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: if you've never seen the Maynard fights, you know Gray

1513
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,560
Speaker 1: Maynard had him in deep, deep trouble several times and

1514
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: he was able to work his way out of it.

1515
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: And what can only be described like where did the

1516
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: legend of Frankie Edgar came from? It was born out

1517
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: of the Maynard fights. Truly other ones as well, but

1518
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: that was really where it began to hit high gear.

1519
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: That mental toughness is now I won't say his worst enemy,

1520
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: but it's causing problems because he has been so committed

1521
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 1: to the idea that he can overcome these challenges and

1522
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: has been for so long and by the way, been right.

1523
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: He's been right that he could overcome those challenges. Now

1524
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: he is getting to a point of his career where

1525
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: he is for the first time ever be see we

1526
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: went over this on extra credit. Now he has, for

1527
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: the first time ever, back to back stoppage losses that

1528
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: he used to never happen to him. Now he's got

1529
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: two of them in a row, all those things that

1530
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: made him great. That's gonna make him deciding to hang

1531
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: it up all that much harder.

1532
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's not forget he won a world

1533
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 2: title two divisions above his his best weight and or

1534
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: his preferred you know, body weight, and is one of

1535
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 2: the best all time in that division's history. I mean,

1536
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: this guy's amazing. Look, I don't want to see him

1537
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 2: take any more punishment. I love this man. I know.

1538
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: Remember one ZUFA used to give those lifetime jobs to

1539
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: like Griffin, Bonner Hughes, and they don't do it anymore

1540
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 2: in this era. Although actually Force Griffin's got a good

1541
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 2: job at the Performance Instito. He's like the he's like

1542
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 2: the host and in like he actually.

1543
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually does work for them.

1544
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, please give this man. Frankieger is like everything the

1545
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 2: UFC fighter and champion you would want to be. In

1546
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: the fact that he's lingered at such an elite level

1547
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 2: over multiple divisions in the second half of his career.

1548
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: I mean, God, I love this guy. No more, Please,

1549
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: no more. I love the fighter's heart, But Luke, that's

1550
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: when it becomes they become their own worst enemy. It

1551
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you can still beat you know, guys

1552
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 2: at the end of or outside of the top ten.

1553
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 2: Like's the what's the why why?

1554
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: At this point, Luke, I don't know what he wants left.

1555
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: It's really up to him. I mean, someone made this

1556
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: point to me, but he said, I'd love to get

1557
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: for you to weigh in on it. This is the

1558
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: argument that I made yesterday on extra Credit, which was

1559
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: whenever I say, by the way, all I said was

1560
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: that Frankie should consider retirement. I didn't say like retirement

1561
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: has to be em in it take away his license.

1562
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,520
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. I said it needs to be considered.

1563
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: And people point out, well, he can still win fights,

1564
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: he can still beat good guys. Well, first of all,

1565
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: he can't beat the guys that he used to beat

1566
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: number one, number two. You know, the trend lines are bad.

1567
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: You're getting back to backstoppage losses. That's literally never happened

1568
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 1: in his career up until this point. So there's all

1569
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: kinds of trend lines you can point to. But the

1570
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: other point is, dude, between Frankie was very much ahead

1571
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: of his time right because what he was doing was footwork,

1572
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: fainting fakes, angles, flurries with his hands, getting in and

1573
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: then getting out, and that was when he was doing that.

1574
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: Not a lot of guys are doing that even now.

1575
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: Some people are still not doing it all that much.

1576
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: So his game has enabled him to still win. He

1577
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: could still beat good fighters. I believe that probably somewhere

1578
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 1: close to the you know, outside the top fifteen, or

1579
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: maybe right between ten and fifteen, somewhere around there. Although

1580
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: he did be Pedro Munoz not too long ago. You

1581
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: get the idea he can still be good guys. But

1582
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: but with the amount of damage he's taking and then

1583
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: the kinds of guys he can't beat, right, you cannot

1584
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: beat championship caliber guys. That much has been pretty clear.

1585
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: There's a question about what is really left for him

1586
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: to keep doing. That's for him to decide. But I

1587
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: don't think the questions out of bounds.

1588
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is that he can still compete at

1589
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: a high level. That's becomes the problem. But when he

1590
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: gets knocked out, he gets knocked the hell out. So, Luke,

1591
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 2: if he came back against Conor McGregor next year, would

1592
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,799
Speaker 2: that be worse than the cowboy come back fight for Connor?

1593
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it would be.

1594
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't want to see that, Luke. Before we

1595
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 2: transition into fan submissions, you did mention today as Marine Day,

1596
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: so shout out.

1597
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not Marine Day, it's the Marine Corps birthday.

1598
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: You don't always have to be rude about it. You

1599
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: could not being rude.

1600
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, shout out to the what do

1601
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: you call them? The what you say, shout out to

1602
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 2: the devil dogs, Luke, whatever those are. And you know

1603
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: semper five never die.

1604
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: Whenever you say things like whatever those are, that's the

1605
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: very diff I'm.

1606
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 2: Not trying to disrespect you. I'm trying to praise you.

1607
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 2: In fact, I wanted them to throw up the picture

1608
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 2: that you put on Instagram, that got in Twitter, that

1609
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: got great love. Thank you for your service a day

1610
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: before Veterans Day. Luke. I'm a big fan of you

1611
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: and your life and what you've done. There's the pic

1612
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: right there, and somebody ahead, somebody on MMA or no

1613
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 2: m Myers House on Instagram responded to that and was like,

1614
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: can we get a split screen with this of a

1615
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 2: shot of BC from ninety eight? So look, before we

1616
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: go to that split screen, can we go back to

1617
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 2: that Luke solo photo? Can you tell us all because

1618
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 2: I want to properly praise you here. Nineteen ninety eight.

1619
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 2: You graduated high school the year before you went to

1620
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 2: the Marines. Tell me about this version of Luke Thomas

1621
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 2: when that picture was taken.

1622
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: So you actually, I don't know if you can. Can

1623
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: you blow the picture up just a little bit, just

1624
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: a little bit. I want to show you something that

1625
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: you may not catch on the detail. So it's on

1626
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: the right side of the photo, but it's actually the

1627
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: bottom left side of my chin. Do you notice how

1628
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: it's a little bit swollen relative to the other one.

1629
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: It's not significant, but you can kind of see it

1630
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: there right, yes. Yes, So this was a very bad day.

1631
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: So that morning I got up and we were doing

1632
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: what's called manual arms. That's when they're like when you

1633
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 1: bring up to port arms with the weapon and you're

1634
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: doing all kinds of like you know, ceremonial handling of

1635
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: the weapon information and you're walking and I had fucked

1636
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: up something. I forgot what it was, and my drill

1637
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: instructor took my sixteen A two and then jammed it

1638
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: in my face really fucking hard. And the front site post,

1639
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: which is what you use to obviously, you know, assess

1640
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: your target and center of mass. It hit my chin

1641
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: right here and I didn't even know it, and blood

1642
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: splattered everywhere, which I also couldn't didn't know because this

1643
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: is gonna sound kind of crazy, but you can't look down.

1644
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: So I didn't look down until finally I was in

1645
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 1: the chow line, and I noticed that as I went down,

1646
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: all the people giving me food were like looking at

1647
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: me like I was a fucking zombie. And I get

1648
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: to the end and my drawing struct is like Thomas, Thomas,

1649
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: come here, you're filthy. It was just whatever, and he

1650
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: pulls me aside and then starts wiping my face. I'm like, dude,

1651
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 1: what the fuck? And then I see him pull back

1652
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 1: the hand and it's just dyed red blood on his hand.

1653
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: So he finally it took me to the sick bay

1654
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: and they put something on there to kind of like

1655
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: almost like what you would give a boxer to like

1656
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: seal a cut, and then they made me ice it

1657
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: because like we got pictures today, I don't want you

1658
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: to look like I've been abusing you. I'm like, even

1659
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: though you fucking abused me, asshole. And so that's what

1660
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: that day was. But that was a hard day that

1661
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: was That was not a great day, but that was

1662
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: a time in my life where I was just trying

1663
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: to do new things and see where it took me.

1664
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: And I'm proud of it.

1665
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 2: I'm probably Do you still have that hat? By the way, it's.

1666
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: Not a hat, it's a cover. It's called a campaign.

1667
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: I'm not being ignorant or rude. You don't have to

1668
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: like you know, I mean it's a hat.

1669
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, they're not hats. They're called covers. There's

1670
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: a difference. Yes, I still have it. I still have it.

1671
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 2: I'd like to put on my my marine hat, Luke,

1672
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: and salute you.

1673
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not a marine hat, some kind of it's

1674
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: some kind of army and you don't have you don't

1675
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:34,759
Speaker 1: have the you don't.

1676
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 2: Have my father's. It's my father's private duty fireman hat. Okay,

1677
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 2: twenty five years on the on the.

1678
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: Hey, could you put more dust on the brim?

1679
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 2: I don't have enough dusty, Luke. Okay, but I was

1680
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: hoping you had yours. We could wear our caps or covers.

1681
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, our covers. Yeah, covers, Luke, in full non

1682
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 2: disrespectful notation. Here, can you tell me about that version?

1683
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 2: Of Luke in nineteen ninety eight. Were you typical lost teenanks,

1684
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 2: melancholy with a little bit of the infinite sadness?

1685
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,839
Speaker 1: Who was I had? I had already gotten into college.

1686
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: In fact, I was able to. If I put up

1687
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: two photos, if you look up both of them, one

1688
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: is that I would I graduated with I think it

1689
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: was they had me in Echo Company, Echo Company, second Battalion.

1690
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: I was able to move to first Battalion, Alpha Company

1691
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 1: because I was able to skip team week, which is

1692
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: basically just a week of servitude, so that I could

1693
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 1: get back to college on time. So my Marine Corps

1694
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 1: boot camp was twelve weeks, not thirteen, which for it

1695
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 1: is for most people. But I was. I was already

1696
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 1: head at William Mary. I was already in I just

1697
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,799
Speaker 1: wanted to do something difficult. I wanted to be challenged.

1698
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to see what it meant to get pushed

1699
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: and to get outside of my comfort zone. No one

1700
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: in my family ever joined the military. I didn't need

1701
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: to go into the military. I just decided to do

1702
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: it because I wanted to be better than what I was.

1703
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: And I got not everything I wanted, but I got

1704
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: most of what I wanted. Out of that Marine Corps experience.

1705
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: But that day in particular was a hard day.

1706
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: Were you in college and the Marine simultaneously?

1707
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: What were you? Yes? The Marine Corps does not have

1708
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: an ROTC program. You can do a system where you

1709
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: can break up training in the summers, but Navy and

1710
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: Army have one. Marine Corps doesn't. So you either are

1711
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps or you're not. That's it.

1712
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, what did you What rank did you reach?

1713
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's it's it's it's the Marine's birtha.

1714
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 2: I wanted to celebrate you on this Veterans Day week.

1715
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, e five, I was a sergeant, Sergeant Thomas. That's

1716
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: how far I got, big.

1717
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: Big fan of you. But you know m Myer's house

1718
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: did say, can we get the split screen of nineteen

1719
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: ninety eight BC up against Luke? So here we go.

1720
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: Luke, you nasty civilian pig.

1721
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: Who was BC at nineteen ninety eight he was twenty

1722
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: years old, attending community college, a janitor at stopping shop

1723
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: and writing for the local newspaper. That I had a

1724
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 2: chin beard, Luke that curled under most of the time,

1725
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 2: and there was not a lot of procreator, not a

1726
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 2: lot of consummation going on during these these these years.

1727
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean we took very different paths

1728
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 1: to get here, I have to admit, but you know what,

1729
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: we both ended up as Dodge neons. So can't say shit,

1730
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: can I?

1731
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, thank you for your service and all the

1732
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 2: other any other Marines you want to shout out of

1733
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,440
Speaker 2: famous note Mma Boxing.

1734
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: Just just the unit that I served with for the

1735
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: majority of my time, Hotel Battery three, fourteen fourth mar

1736
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: div great bunch of guys. In fact, one of them

1737
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 1: messaged me on Instagram this morning. H Sergeant Graham, who

1738
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: I knew for a long time, And yeah, man, that

1739
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: was like a really that was I wouldn't do it

1740
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: again candidly, but I'm glad I did it when I did.

1741
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: And the Marine Corps was just an was a endless

1742
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: series of life lessons for better lesson.

1743
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 2: What would you say, is is the the number one

1744
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 2: positive thing you took from that experience? That that that

1745
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: defines you today, Loup.

1746
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: The Marine Corps was the first time where where again

1747
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna have a different experience or get to this differently.

1748
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't think any one situation is better than the others.

1749
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: But for me, I did not know what it meant

1750
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: to be a slave to your own mind. Like your

1751
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: mind will play tricks on you big time. Like I'm

1752
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: not one of these guys that like is in the

1753
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: Cult of David Goggins, who's like this sort of psycho

1754
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: guy who has enabled himself to do these incredible feats

1755
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:29,839
Speaker 1: of strength and endurance and everything else because he closes

1756
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: off the part of his mind that would prevent him

1757
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: from doing that. But there is something to be learned

1758
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: about that. Like, there were times when I was like

1759
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 1: I thought I was fucking done, done, finished, and then

1760
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: shit got even worse, and then another layer of worse

1761
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: on top of that, and you just like, dude, there

1762
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: was no way you were going to get through it

1763
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: unless you just got through it. You had to walk

1764
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: through fire. And once I realized that my mind was

1765
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 1: telling me limits that I thought for sure were real,

1766
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: they were not real at all. Once you break that

1767
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: barrier and you begin to realize you could and shape

1768
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: your reality by taking on positive attitudes or certain mentality

1769
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: towards difficulty or whatever, your ability to do things expands exponentially.

1770
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: But it wasn't until I was just sort of held

1771
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: underwater and forced to come to the surface. That I

1772
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: learned that, but that that has paid significant dividends going forward.

1773
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 2: I often wonder how different, Luke, my twenties would have

1774
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: been if I had gone that same route as you

1775
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: and gotten my ass kicked a few times. You know

1776
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1777
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: You would have been discharged. Yeah, it's nice to get discharge. Dishonorable.

1778
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: You gotta like murder people and shit. You wouldn't have

1779
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: done that, but have been like you'd have been like Jesus,

1780
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: will you stop smoking pot? Fucking lance, Corporal Campbell, Will

1781
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: your police quit doing that? You know.

1782
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 2: I didn't wear this shirt for today, but it made sense.

1783
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 2: I just happened to have been wearing this lead for

1784
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 2: the past three days on this United States donk or

1785
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 2: is this blasphemous to wear this?

1786
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? I didn't like that. I never liked anything about it,

1787
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: and I'm glad we're not doing it.

1788
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 2: So okay, it never made the website. I want to

1789
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 2: alter this a bit, get the donk stuff out of there.

1790
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 2: I do like the logo though, that's pretty sure.

1791
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, the Marine Corps colors that red

1792
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: and that yellow and the I love it. The Marine

1793
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: Corps is great, dude, And you know, so I got

1794
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: this big ass tattoo to commemorate it and everything. But

1795
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: but that that that that hoodie was a fucking disaster real.

1796
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,879
Speaker 2: Quick before we get closed with fan subs. As you know, Luke, yesterday,

1797
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: Showtime did make it official that in a former NFL

1798
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 2: running back Frank Gore will box former NBA All Star

1799
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 2: Deron Williams on the Jake Paul undercard, which by the way,

1800
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 2: will also feature Amanda Serrano moving back up to lightweight

1801
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: in a in a comain event fight. But did you

1802
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: see Ariel Hawani just tweeted that Chail Son and is

1803
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 2: now saying he was in discussions to box Frank Gore

1804
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: in that spot, but it didn't end up working out.

1805
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 2: Gore's team didn't, uh didn't go for it, Luke, that

1806
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: would you been a little more interested in that? I mean,

1807
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 2: I'm interested in Look, I'm actually into two big name

1808
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 2: athletes that we know getting in the boxing. I'm actually

1809
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 2: into that.

1810
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: So I mean, I would definitely be into seeing Chail

1811
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 1: do like fun weird things for sure, But I gotta say,

1812
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: don't you feel like in the interest of just making

1813
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: this work you gotta have two people who are coming

1814
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 1: at this mostly similar. So yeah, I mean you gotta

1815
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: have That's why the Chatto cho single thing kind of

1816
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: work because him and the other guy he had the

1817
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: BKFC experience, but not really much more. They were this

1818
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 1: doron Wynn Frank Gore works better than the Chail slot one.

1819
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: But to see Chail doing it, you know, maybe.

1820
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,759
Speaker 2: Jail will get that trailler money. You know, I'm fighting

1821
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 2: the damn triad. I don't know whatever. All right, Luke,

1822
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 2: Every Wednesday we have people email us that morning Combat

1823
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com to send in their fan subs.

1824
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 2: They do the same on Friday with dead Wrong. But

1825
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 2: every Wednesday you can send in your picks, your art

1826
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 2: and we'll you know, we'll roast you, probably for your

1827
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 2: bad cable management. This one's called fan submissions.

1828
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: By the way, what happened to the Wheel? Are we

1829
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: gonna do the Wheel anytime soon?

1830
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 2: We've got there's a rumor going around, Luke that we

1831
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: might be bringing back Celebrity Wheel of Death next week,

1832
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: because next week is my final full week before I

1833
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 2: go on a little vacate. All right, okay, all right,

1834
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: A lot of people say you take many vacations. I

1835
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 2: didn't try to take this vacation, you say, Bold gave

1836
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 2: it to us. All right, Luke, I'm sorry, Okay, all right,

1837
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: let's start off here. Fernando C says, what's up, donks,

1838
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 2: Fernando here from Texas? Day one?

1839
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: Is this asshole really just taking a picture of his shirt.

1840
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: I work from home, so I don't miss any of

1841
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 2: your content attached as a pick of the MK shirt

1842
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 2: I ordered. I'm a simple man, so I'll take a

1843
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: simple shirt. Also, I screenshot the upcoming Cannibal Corps tour

1844
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 2: poster and dates for early next year, so you can

1845
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: take BC. I'll be attending the San Antonio date. Love

1846
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 2: the show, Keep killing the game MK all day near

1847
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: the every day.

1848
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: So BC has bitched out on Dying Fetus this month?

1849
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 2: Did I really out? Luke? I what if I told

1850
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: you in the past? I said, you know, you said

1851
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 2: one mother time you tried to hug me in the airport.

1852
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, you put dot cameras around. I'll do

1853
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 2: a lot of things, Luke.

1854
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So I hope that the showtime producers are watching,

1855
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 1: because you know, BC, we know sometimes I do, sometimes

1856
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't. But if they are watching today. You heard

1857
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 1: that man Cannibal Corpse February, Baltimore. Let's do it.

1858
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 2: Let's do it, and that's like, why don't we just

1859
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 2: go visit the devil Luke? Okay, Anyway, I think that

1860
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 2: we need a better gatekeeping system. I do put this on.

1861
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 2: Mikey Mormal, our producer Fernando's just setting and sending in

1862
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 2: a picture of a T shirt, like, we can't even know.

1863
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 1: You gotta put yeah, you got to put on the

1864
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: T shirt, guy, you gotta put it on.

1865
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 2: I mean, we can't even comment if he's been in

1866
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 2: the gym at all or anything about him, you know,

1867
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: come on, come on, all right, Matthew says, uh quote

1868
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 2: from sher Dog A twenty four year old Chuck Mindenhall

1869
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 2: versus a one and all Barry Crawford. Surely, if this

1870
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 2: was real, BC would have brought it up or joked

1871
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 2: about it by now. However, when looking for footage, I

1872
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 2: came across the post where it seems Crawford himself confirms

1873
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 2: the fight took place, and that is currently a fan

1874
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 2: of Chuck's writing. Does either luc or BC have more

1875
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 2: information or is there a reason Chuck doesn't bring it up.

1876
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 2: What the hell is he talking about?

1877
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 1: Luke? What the fuck is this fight where they were

1878
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: oher to oh and one and oh.

1879
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 2: Can you blow this up? This is not real? So

1880
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 2: that's Chuck Mindenhall on the left. Yeah, this is some bullshit.

1881
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 2: This is a fan c ub right here.

1882
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: I guess we should double check this.

1883
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. Yeah, this segment Luke is really just

1884
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 2: you know, thanks guys.

1885
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: They're just sending us. Hey, here's a picture of my

1886
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: balance when I took twenty bucks out of the ATM Okay, great,

1887
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: all right.

1888
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: We got Daniel from Pasadena. He says he's been watching

1889
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 2: since episode one. He says some other stuff, so he

1890
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: wanted to share with us his recent project. I bought

1891
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: this one hundred year old house in the summer, and

1892
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 2: a previous owner covered the fireplace with bricks. So I

1893
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 2: used the jackhammer to break the brick open, fix it,

1894
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 2: paint it, install a fireplace door. Now I get to

1895
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 2: enjoy MK with a wood fire and a dram of Scotch.

1896
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,440
Speaker 2: Congrats on one hundred K and BC, I love you.

1897
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 2: No h mo, my ig is WHOA all right, I'm

1898
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 2: not going to read it.

1899
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 1: He did he did. He did a great job.

1900
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 2: That is pretty badass handiwork.

1901
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: There, Dude, Is there what is better than day drinking

1902
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,759
Speaker 1: doing nothing else and then just laying and watching football

1903
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 1: and in front of a fire like there. I mean,

1904
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 1: I just don't know what could be better than that.

1905
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's at Puro Officionado on ig if anyone wants

1906
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 2: to get stoned with him and talk stone work with him.

1907
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 2: But thank you very much, Daniel, appreciate you watching us

1908
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 2: on You very well done, good good work right there?

1909
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 2: All right, Goran, Look Goran's back, you know, Goran Ivanisovich.

1910
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 2: He says, uh hi LT and BC you make my

1911
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 2: Tuesday's Thursdays in Saturdays. Because I'm from Australia. Along with

1912
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 2: art content, you guys spoil us with event after event,

1913
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: I decided to put together a rooftop BC B ch

1914
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 2: counter the nineties. Connor has been left flailing from your

1915
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,759
Speaker 2: team as of late, or as Luke likes to put it,

1916
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 2: it's not your fault that you were born in the

1917
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 2: late nineties. Also, I'd like to introduce you to the

1918
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 2: real Triple C rooftop diaries with the Chucks. I for

1919
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 2: one art although the man in the hat may have

1920
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:24,759
Speaker 2: trouble understanding what the iceman and Charles would be saying. Finally,

1921
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 2: I get a kick out of the names you guys

1922
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 2: give the fighters and or gym's. So therefore I created

1923
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 2: an MK pound for pound list. Let me know if

1924
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 2: I left anyone out. Keep it up your big dossers.

1925
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, what's he got here? Let's blow this up?

1926
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:42,839
Speaker 1: Apple, fuck face McGee, smash Factory City cock boxing coach, Littori,

1927
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: Dustin Puawe way gone in sixty seconds, po Trey Yond,

1928
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: Anthony Mussy, TV Smith Nasrat hack rack past. Do I

1929
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:54,759
Speaker 1: want to Joanna?

1930
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow wow, yeah, well yeah, actually the NASDAK five

1931
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 2: hundred there at number good shit here from Goran. Look

1932
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: what did you think about his Bach counter?

1933
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 1: He only had two? Didn't you have like seventy nine

1934
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: thousand of them?

1935
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 2: Possible as possible? He says, thank you from Wollongong, Australia,

1936
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:19,480
Speaker 2: the hometown of the great Alexander Volkanowski. All right, ckb

1937
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: in the house. Tyler says it was great to see

1938
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 2: BC looking like Oraville Reddenbacher again during the Canelo resume review.

1939
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,719
Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to find the special edition BC

1940
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 2: Redenbacker Poppycock with drug rug text at my local grocery store.

1941
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: It took me way longer to make this than I

1942
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 2: would like to admit, but I've had a lot of

1943
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 2: free time since January sixth.

1944
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. It's pretty good.

1945
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good. I'd eat that shit, believe me

1946
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 2: on that one, all right, Noel. Noel says, hello boys,

1947
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 2: greetings from New England. I started taking my daughter to

1948
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 2: a introductory mutai class. She has said several years of

1949
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 2: judo under her belt and many more years of training

1950
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 2: karate at home wow with her dad, but this is

1951
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 2: the first time formerly kickboxing. She is absolutely loving the experience,

1952
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 2: and being that she is also a UFC and MK fan,

1953
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 2: we made it a ritual since her classes on Wednesdays

1954
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 2: to come home and watch the Wednesday edition of this show.

1955
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 2: Look they're watching this shit right now, Noel and his daughter.

1956
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 2: I've been a fan of you guys since the MMA

1957
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 2: beat and even remember Luke Stanton and Glory Wow. Speaking

1958
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 2: of which, let me also put in my vote for

1959
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 2: some Glory Kickboxing coverage on the show. The guys over

1960
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 2: there are super high level. They don't get credit beyond

1961
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:38,600
Speaker 2: that he loves us. It's Noel from Boston. Can you

1962
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 2: zoom in on this? Look, that's pretty awesome. He's going

1963
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 2: to a team Sidyong Tong there. That's Kenny Florian's old

1964
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 2: Jim right.

1965
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Yep, sit Yah Tong in near Boston. And this is great.

1966
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 2: What shirt is that that he's wearing.

1967
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 1: He's wearing a batter Hardy shirt.

1968
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's badass. Yeah.

1969
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 1: And she's wearing the MK shirt and she's got all smiles.

1970
01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: This is fucking wholesome, bro, This is the best.

1971
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 2: That's wholesome as shit. MK style. Shout out to you, Noel. Sorry,

1972
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 2: your brother Williams an asshole, but you know what I'm

1973
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 2: talking about right here, all right? The fighter kid slides in.

1974
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 2: He says, Hi, guys, I heard usman is jumping for

1975
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 2: joy that you decided to do the resume review on

1976
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 2: Canelo and not him. I'm not sure if lucas having

1977
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 2: fun with the curse now or if he's trying to

1978
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 2: end it asap. How come you decided to do Canelo?

1979
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 2: Why not wait for a more risky fight like Beval

1980
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 2: or better Beev.

1981
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are just unbelievable. It's like, dude,

1982
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: we did fucking Adasignia when he was trying to become

1983
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:32,639
Speaker 1: Champ Champ, you know what I mean, Like we weren't

1984
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: picking scrubs in the game, or like, you know, we

1985
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: thought by the way, I had every confidence that I

1986
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 1: thought Otto Sonya was gonna win that shit and he didn't.

1987
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: You know, this whole thing about like, oh, you guys

1988
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: picked Canelo and because you wanted to break the curse. Well,

1989
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: if the curse is real, then Canelo can't break it, now,

1990
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 1: can he? You fucking idiots so.

1991
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 2: Well, The Fighter Kid said, I hope Lucas prepared for

1992
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 2: fans to add the stipulation that the curse only applies

1993
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,560
Speaker 2: to Mma, your local bbo's.

1994
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: It's just goalpost shifting, is all it is?

1995
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 2: All right, all right? The Fighter Kid also said, Hi, Luke,

1996
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm stupid. Is this a second meme? Yah? Or is

1997
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 2: this nothing? Number eight nothing?

1998
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 1: Those are my favorite emails here.

1999
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 2: There was a part of me, Luke that was like,

2000
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 2: you know, if Caleb Plant can do this, our curse

2001
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 2: is going to be the most powerful force on earth.

2002
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: I thought about it. I was like, dude, if Plant wins

2003
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: and let's say something miraculous too like he wins, like

2004
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: be a stoppage WI would be almost impossible for him

2005
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 1: to do. I was like, dude, I'm I'm never I

2006
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 1: could you could? We could be uh, we could do

2007
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: like curses or excuse we do resume reviews after that,

2008
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: we could do one hundred. It wouldn't matter the amount

2009
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: of fucking dms and tweets and messages I would have

2010
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 1: gotten if Canelo had lost would have been overwhelming, which

2011
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 1: goes to show that now that he win, you guys,

2012
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: pardon me for the team who was watching who trains

2013
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 1: with her dad had sit y'all tong the rest of

2014
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: you can you know, lick my balls? So how about that?

2015
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 2: You think we should put the m M A curse

2016
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 2: on the line with a puabiwey edition.

2017
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: Probly we could, because there's no such thing as a curse.

2018
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 1: So I'd be happy to do whatever you want, all.

2019
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 2: Right, Joshua says, good morning, Jens huge fan. Wanted to

2020
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 2: share some photos of my little trip with my girlfriend

2021
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 2: that we took to dug In Falls, an hour outside

2022
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 2: of Portland. There we go and everything you do for

2023
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 2: we sell pink shirts? Are you serious? He says, ps,

2024
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 2: whose tip do I have to touch to get y'all

2025
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 2: to make some MK rash guards. I'll buy a short

2026
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 2: sleeve and a long sleeve. If the drug rugs can

2027
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 2: be a thing, surely y'all can rash guards happen to love? Joshua?

2028
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 1: Do you need a rash guard to break into the

2029
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 1: Capitol building or just for jiu jitsu?

2030
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 2: Can we go back to that? Do we really sell

2031
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 2: that pink shirt or the purple one whatever?

2032
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? And by the way, yeah, he's got some nice

2033
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 1: I can't quite read the tats because they're so they're

2034
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 1: so dark, but yeah, they look like they're pretty good.

2035
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 2: You know, he may have even been to a gym,

2036
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 2: and he may have even been laid book shout out

2037
01:36:58,280 --> 01:36:58,719
Speaker 2: to Joshua.

2038
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a female friend and who I don't

2039
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 1: think he paid to be there.

2040
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, unlike most of Luke's friends from the Marines,

2041
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 2: this guy does it the traditional one.

2042
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: Dude. Yes, they just love hookers. I just can't even

2043
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe it, Joshua.

2044
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 2: We appreciate you wearing our ship and best of luck

2045
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 2: in your relationship. It looks like well done. Okay over

2046
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 2: to CS, he says, just want to slide this in here.

2047
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 2: We'll see if the curse believers have to pivot to

2048
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:25,799
Speaker 2: MMA only or not. Let's see what he's sliding.

2049
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: Okay, not bad. I mean we didn't quite get there,

2050
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: but you know, I appreciate it.

2051
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 2: Not bad, not bad, Thank you CS. Josh says. This

2052
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 2: is Josh from Perth, Western Australia. It's all in good faith.

2053
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 2: Keep those dick jokes up BC.

2054
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 1: Oh he has the poor hot sauce? What is blow up?

2055
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 1: You blow it up?

2056
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 2: Oh? No? Is that a hot dog with shrimp on it? Oh?

2057
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 2: That is so discuss is that?

2058
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 1: No? Wait? Is that like a poe boy?

2059
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 2: I think it's a shrimp dog?

2060
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 1: Well, a po boy kind of is a shrimp dog

2061
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 1: sort of, It doesn't have the dog, but I think

2062
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 1: that's more like a poe boy.

2063
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 2: What does he have a second photo with him and

2064
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 2: a shirt? Can we go to that.

2065
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: Bro? You knew he had a beard like a smesh

2066
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 1: all of our viewers do. Who are men? Dude?

2067
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 2: What do you think of that beard? That's aggressive? Right?

2068
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 1: First of all, the kitchen is a little bit small,

2069
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: but it's nice, very nice to Well, yeah, he's doing okay,

2070
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 1: he's doing okay, Okay, I'm not hating.

2071
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I see he's been working those those delts in

2072
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: the gym. Luke, all right, shout out to Josh there

2073
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 2: from Australia or whoever that guy is. Yeah, okay, let's

2074
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 2: go over to Julian. I wish the man a long

2075
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 2: life and happiness. But nothing, and I mean nothing, cracks

2076
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,719
Speaker 2: me up more than a Luke Thomas meltdown. The last

2077
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 2: minute plus of Luke's attempted live chat in front of

2078
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:57,640
Speaker 2: that terrorist kidnapped soon beheaded victim curtain was priceless. What

2079
01:38:57,640 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 2: the hell's he talking about? Luke?

2080
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 1: I tried to do one from my hotel room and

2081
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: it was a complete fucking nightmare.

2082
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 2: The MK stages of Luke Thomas depression. The first one

2083
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 2: says says, I'm the American Alpha. Then I say you wanna,

2084
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 2: and then you melt down as I say, hey, bro,

2085
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 2: what's up with the weird ship? Tony gave you that? Yeah?

2086
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 2: This is this is this is well done, Luke. This

2087
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 2: well done.

2088
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 1: This is actually pretty well done. Yeah, this is combining

2089
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: several different things into one, but they did a pretty

2090
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: good job. Actually.

2091
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 2: Julian says, fake name, this is my burner, l o

2092
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 2: l with tears in my eyes. Your Day one fan Julian.

2093
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Walt is here, Luke, I don't

2094
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 2: know if that means it's Walt Harris at the UFC,

2095
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 2: but he says, hey, dudes, here's some stuff I worked

2096
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 2: on when I should have been working. Got a couple

2097
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 2: of laughs in the Reddicum. Oh oh ship, but I.

2098
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 1: Forgot you got the contra cover.

2099
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 2: Oh that is I want that post. I want that

2100
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 2: poster at our new studio.

2101
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 1: That is badass. That is fucking sick. That is great.

2102
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 2: That is good stuff right there, Walt, Walt, Waltamus from Jersey.

2103
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 2: Very good. Let's see what else he's got here. Oh yeah,

2104
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 2: water are we doing here? Indeed? Okay, hurt it both ways, Bapa.

2105
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, just trying to get me in some

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Speaker 1: is this double Dragon?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's pretty good too, Luke.

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Speaker 1: That is all of these are are pretty funny. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is that is that Ariel in the background. That's kind

2110
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 1: of funny too. Actually, oh yeah, we didn't make it.

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Speaker 1: We didn't make it.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Finally, Luke, we got a day one fran from

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Speaker 2: England named Matt. He says, somebody already beat me into

2114
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 2: the squid game means last week, but still wanted to

2115
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Speaker 2: submit my attempt. Luke, what position do you think Brian

2116
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,440
Speaker 2: would finish if he were to take part in the games?

2117
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 1: Oh, Brian would have been the old guy who just

2118
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 1: died halfway through or whatever it was.

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Speaker 2: But Luke, look at you with that hair. Would you

2120
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 2: ever consider growing the locks out? You'd be you'd kind

2121
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 2: of be a handsome man again.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no.

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01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 2: No no, I mean do you what do you have now?

2124
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 2: Like a Barracks cut?

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01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: I have weird hair just sticks out, you know, so

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01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: I just I haven't. I didn't call it this morning,

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01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 1: so it's not really I mean, you know what you're

2128
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 1: gonna do. But growing it out even more it would

2129
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 1: just look even worse. I have to keep it kind

2130
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 1: of kind of.

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01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 2: I spend one hundred bucks on massuses. You spend it

2132
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 2: on haircuts, Luke. We all have our things, right.

2133
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: You spend one hundred bucks on that massage?

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01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 2: Oh, for seventy five glorious minutes.

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Speaker 1: Luke, you go get it. Like one time got a

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01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 1: massage and my wife got it for me. So she

2137
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,799
Speaker 1: got me one on our wedding day, which was fine.

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01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 1: I didn't love it, but it was ever And then

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01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 1: one time she got a couple's one where both people

2140
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:37,680
Speaker 1: massaging us were were dudes. Oh yeah, well he was.

2141
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm pretty strict about like what you can massage on

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01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 1: what you can't, but like he did this weird thing

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01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 1: where he was trying what do.

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01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 2: You mean you're really strict on what you can massage

2145
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 2: and what you can't.

2146
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: I only have like sore, like a sore back stuff.

2147
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't want everything else touched. I don't need anything else,

2148
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 1: Like I just need my back loosened up. It's all

2149
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 1: there is, Luke.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna go to your butthole, bro.

2151
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 1: But like you know, for example, leg I don't want

2152
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 1: him touched arms. I don't want it touched.

2153
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: I just you realize how much stress you carry in

2154
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 2: like your calves and your hips that you don't realize

2155
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 2: it releases all that stuff.

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01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 1: Yeah see it doesn't, at least not for me. I

2157
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: haven't had that kind of experience. But I'll just say this,

2158
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 1: you haven't got to the point yet. The point is

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01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 1: this dude had this weird breathing technique where the whole

2160
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 1: time he would like breathe rhythmically and super fucking loud

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01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 1: exhales through his nose, so it would be he'd be like, okay,

2162
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 1: we'll go to this now.

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01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, look it's I would not do that. I would

2164
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 2: not And.

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Speaker 1: I was like and after that was over, my wife

2166
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 1: was like, hey, did you like that. I'm like, I

2167
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:40,640
Speaker 1: would have rather had been fucked to death by an

2168
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,719
Speaker 1: eight dicked walrus than ever ever do that again.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so you had a bad experience, Luke. I

2170
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:49,680
Speaker 2: have not had those experience, although that there was a

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01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 2: time Showtime sent me to uh the time I showed

2172
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 2: up on Below the Belt with Brendan Shop that weekend.

2173
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 2: It was uh, Gervonte Davis and Cali. My back was

2174
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 2: like you know, I ever pull your back and it

2175
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 2: takes you like fifteen minutes to go out of bed

2176
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 2: and climb and like stand up. It's like a mess.

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01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,919
Speaker 2: I went to the my wife's like, oh, get a massage,

2178
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 2: and I'd never got one before, and I accidentally signed

2179
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 2: up for the one where like there's handlebars on the

2180
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 2: ceiling and the lady hangs from those bars and steps

2181
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 2: and knees all over your back and it was like

2182
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 2: pitch black in the room. That was a little intense.

2183
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know how that was gonna end. Look kind

2184
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 2: of gonna be honest with you. Okay, that was a

2185
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 2: little intense. The one I yesterday was very proper in

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01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 2: uh perfect, Luke. Okay, I wish you would open your

2187
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 2: body to more things, Luke.

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01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 1: I got. I one time paid twenty bucks for one

2189
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 1: of those massages in the mall, which was actually pretty good.

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01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: This this like dude, this Chinese lady. She had to

2191
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,600
Speaker 1: be like seventy. She beat the fuck out of me.

2192
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 1: She was like Shane Carwin, ground and pound on Rock

2193
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 1: Lesner in the first round. I mean, I was like

2194
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 1: a ten eight in that bitch. She walloped me. But

2195
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,639
Speaker 1: then when I left, I felt pretty good. I was like, shit,

2196
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 1: that old lady she did a number on me. That

2197
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 1: was all right, Luke.

2198
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 2: I felt like like I was watching Round one of

2199
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 2: Gaegee Chandler for like twelve hours yesterday. I mean I

2200
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 2: was just everything was loose and Luke, free your mind

2201
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:10,919
Speaker 2: and the rest will follow. Be colorblind. Don't be so shallow.

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01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 1: You're the worst person in America. Do we have any

2203
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 1: more of these stupid ass fucking hell?

2204
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 2: Oh that's it? Oh well, what's this? We got one

2205
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 2: more from Matthew or I guess we do. I guess

2206
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 2: we do.

2207
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you you would. This would be your situation from

2208
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:25,639
Speaker 1: squid Game.

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Speaker 2: What is happening here? I don't get it, Luke, I

2210
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 2: don't get it.

2211
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,679
Speaker 1: They had to get out this like sort of sugar

2212
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 1: crystallized substance using a nail without breaking the actual shape.

2213
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 1: They had under a time to do, and if they

2214
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: didn't get it, they got shot in the head.

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01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 2: Is that number? Uh? Is that that means something to me? Luke?

2216
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:45,759
Speaker 2: That number?

2217
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? You love dickenballs more than any other person. I know.

2218
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 2: I prefer North South on the my grappling days.

2219
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 1: Luke. Okay, God, I mean, can we end this show already? Ye?

2220
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 2: All right, okay to all you devil dogs out there,

2221
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 2: all right.

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01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 1: This is don't put don't put the hat, don't put

2223
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 1: the cover on, don't put the cover. No. I mean, dude,

2224
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: see this is what I'm talking about. You have these

2225
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,639
Speaker 1: moments with me. You're like, dude, everyone who gets better

2226
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: at my jokes is being sensitive, and then you do

2227
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,639
Speaker 1: blasphemous shit like this that should get you court martialed

2228
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 1: if you are under the UCMJ. And then wonder why

2229
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: people don't respond to it more positive.

2230
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 2: You have this growing thing on the we're like where

2231
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 2: I start to welcome the staff members into our brotherhood,

2232
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 2: and then I try to initiate them, and then they

2233
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 2: turn on me.

2234
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, because you get so fresh with them that

2235
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 1: you don't realize that you're being inappropriate. That's why you

2236
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 1: hold nothing sacred other than people's lives are fodder for you.

2237
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,720
Speaker 1: And then when they don't like it being fodder for you,

2238
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 1: you're like, what happened? What happen? That's what happened? All right? Right, Yes,

2239
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:57,600
Speaker 1: let's see we have a Friday show. We have a

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Speaker 1: Friday show. Car I do x's and o's, so be

2241
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 1: there for at eleven am in the East. Email us

2242
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 1: your dead wrongs. Go to Morningcombat at gmail dot com.

2243
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 1: Let us know. Showtime has two combat sports events for

2244
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,759
Speaker 1: you this weekend. What could there be to miss? Showtime

2245
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 1: dot com thirty day free trial. If you like it,

2246
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 1: you can keep it, If not, do whatever you want,

2247
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 1: but you can watch the Showtime fights this weekend plus

2248
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 1: Morningcombat dot store. We got the merch. If it's not

2249
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 1: here yet, get a gift card. It will be drug

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01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:25,719
Speaker 1: rugs coming the whole nine yards so just be patient.

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01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:28,960
Speaker 1: But we already got some bestsellers already available at Morningcombat

2252
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 1: Dot store. And that's it BC. Any final thoughts before

2253
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 1: we get out of here.

2254
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 2: Did you get your your new Manscape satchel in the Mill?

2255
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 2: I got my new.

2256
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 1: Pop I have not I have not you.

2257
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 2: Maybe they like me a little more than you.

2258
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 1: They might, they might. Okay, with that out of the way,

2259
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:48,640
Speaker 1: that's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you guys so

2260
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 1: much for watching. We'll see you on Friday, and until then,

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01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 1: all of your gains be loyal.