WEBVTT - #115 - Jae Millz

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<v Speaker 1>Boulet Cap Podcast special guests in here my guy J Mills.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, sir, always Always. First episode was legendary. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I got in a lot of trouble for some shit

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't even say, but I guess I said

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<v Speaker 1>it and it got spun a different way. I had

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<v Speaker 1>some media training since, Like, June, what did you get

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble for saying I'm not gonna say it because

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<v Speaker 1>I might get in trouble again, did you? Well? You

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<v Speaker 1>talked about a lot that media training right there, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good you talked about a lot. Nah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just the whole when I when we was having a

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<v Speaker 1>rap albums discussion and we were talking about like the

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<v Speaker 1>j and the Kanye and the writing stuff. If we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say Quentin Miller did this for so and so,

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<v Speaker 1>then why people don't say this for this not I

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<v Speaker 1>say it, Like I'm smart enough to know Kanye West

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't right for jay Z. We're all smart enough to

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<v Speaker 1>know that. But like, once the interview came out, I looked,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh shit, I said a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>shit in that interview. I put a lot of put

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of respect on people names in that interview.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't the that wasn't the focal point. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not that's not what we're gonna get. We're gonna you

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<v Speaker 1>said basically, in metaphorical terms, you basically said this person

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<v Speaker 1>rights for this person. So I had to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just eat that. I ain't jump in the comments and

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<v Speaker 1>go back and forth. He I was like, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>No bite back from any of the young money stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you shared. Nah nah nah. I did feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>did feel like Wayne had kind of like took a

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<v Speaker 1>shot at me when he said, uh I could uh

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<v Speaker 1>I could flip a J Mills to a fucking Meek Meal.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first heard it, I was like, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>what that's about. But then I thought about it, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, nah, I know Wayne, that's not it's not that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really I didn't hear this. I didn't hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>Bar what was this one of his new verses? I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was on his latest Journey put out. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm smart enough to know Wayne, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>when I thought about it, it is like, even if

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<v Speaker 1>that is what he said, I'm not mad at that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like because when you met me at I was like

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<v Speaker 1>a J Mils and you took me and took me

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<v Speaker 1>to another level. M so even, and I'm gonna keep

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<v Speaker 1>it real even if Wayne was to dis me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep it real just where I'm at in my

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<v Speaker 1>life right now, and being like respectful on some ship

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<v Speaker 1>like you gave me like a platform, you like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of help rebrand me. I don't even think I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think I would go back at him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how to respect for him. I just would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>h you got that off. It was good light of

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<v Speaker 1>blown up. Man. It's not like you hate me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like you ain't got no love for me no more.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. So where I feed into

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<v Speaker 1>it like that, I still speak to him. I just

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<v Speaker 1>uh spoke to Mac though. They shot out to Mac

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<v Speaker 1>Man shout the gutta gotta good. Wayne's birthday was Yeah, happy, happy, belated, happy,

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<v Speaker 1>belated dawayne man. No another another lap around the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Always good to see somebody make it to another year.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well there it is. Yeah. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, I wonder how this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>some of the stories you shared with some man you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted us to remember when I hit you when you

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<v Speaker 1>announced you was leaving the station, I was like, yo, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>did I get you in any trouble with the interview?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I had to hit him. I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>did I say anything that got you in trouble at

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<v Speaker 1>the station? He was like, nah, I got some whole

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<v Speaker 1>other shit in the works right now. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>worry about it. I was like, all right, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back on the station. That let me go, except

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<v Speaker 1>for I'm doing it in my termore. Man, congratulations on that, man,

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations on that. Yeah. No, no, no, that was just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some corporate budget cut bullshit. You know that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens, man, in any business. It happens entertainment specifically

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<v Speaker 1>radio specifically, everyone's you know, cutting budgets. How you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about being back on on the station. I mean it's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I launched the show and then they picked

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<v Speaker 1>it up as an affiliate. So it's dope to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be like, hey, well, like I am on

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<v Speaker 1>the station, but I don't work for them. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on every night, but I don't work for them. So

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<v Speaker 1>the good parts about being on the station are there.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the cool relationships I still have I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I never lost any relationships at the station. Just now,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of the shit that I don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>do or that I wouldn't like about dealing with, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having like all staff meetings and blogging and shit and

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<v Speaker 1>like stuff I don't want to do. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do any of it. I just do me. So

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of just got your own lane. You can

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<v Speaker 1>just rock lily. Yeah, I'm on the shows all over

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<v Speaker 1>the country. So I do one show every day and

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<v Speaker 1>it runs in a bunch of markets all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you have that same leverage your last lap

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<v Speaker 1>at the station now, Because when I the last time

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<v Speaker 1>I worked at the station, you know, I moved from

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Tampa and then I went Tampa to

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<v Speaker 1>LA and a little pit stop in Phoenix. Nah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>of course not. No. I mean, you know, they gave

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<v Speaker 1>me a great opportunity and coming to LA changing my life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So yeah, but like I

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<v Speaker 1>was already thinking, like when I was in the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>and I was able to like not have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the radio station every day and we were voicing

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<v Speaker 1>our show from home because everything was shut down. It

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<v Speaker 1>gave me so much flexibility to like get so much

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<v Speaker 1>other money. And yeah, and and and congrats on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the situation. Man, yeah, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it was already something I wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 1>so it worked out. Man, and doc Winner. Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to doc docs a real one. AO is a real one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. They didn't let me go because they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>too clearly they brought me back, so you know, shouted

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<v Speaker 1>what was good with the with the with the artists

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<v Speaker 1>you're working with? Man, Oh yeah, yeah, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a little label that we're we have ready set

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<v Speaker 1>little label. I mean it's little right now, but we

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<v Speaker 1>just put a record out that's doing well with T

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<v Speaker 1>Pain feature as alexis feature in T Pain. So yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>were working you want to you want to know some

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<v Speaker 1>funny ship. I'm gonna just let y'all know how good

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<v Speaker 1>I am. Right, You see how I just went into

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<v Speaker 1>journalists j mode real quick. I just like I just

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<v Speaker 1>started interviewing him. He doesn't even realize that this whole

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<v Speaker 1>interview I've been interviewing him. Just have some journalists stuff

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<v Speaker 1>coming down the pipeline. Oh man. I just been in

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<v Speaker 1>some media training since June and people have been telling

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<v Speaker 1>me how to work this little media thing. So why'd

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<v Speaker 1>you get media training because of our interview? Definitely They're like, yo, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you what happened. I went to Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Miami right. I was out there for

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<v Speaker 1>my boy birthday and I was kicking. I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>out there for Bido birthday shot at the bad I

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<v Speaker 1>was out there for his birthday and we pulled up

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<v Speaker 1>on Norri. Anytime I'm in Miami, I always pull up

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<v Speaker 1>on NORRII kick it with him, chop it up with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Never really take pictures, post videos and shit like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kick it with them. Same thing I was saying

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<v Speaker 1>with you, like I've known you for years and I

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<v Speaker 1>never sent you a clean version of no records because

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<v Speaker 1>my relationship ain't like he can you play this on

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<v Speaker 1>the radio? Can the radio? And Noori was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened at the boutlet, Kevin. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>great interview. He said, you just didn't learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>create your own clickbait yet. He said, when you learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to create your own clickbait, you're gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>beast with this shit. He said, you give them too much.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't give them a chance to ask you nothing said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you're right. And then when I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>got this new situation, I had to learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>like shut the fuck up because I'm working with other

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<v Speaker 1>people and I'm in a writer's room and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm bringing ideas, but it's like four or five

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<v Speaker 1>other people with ideas. So you got to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to get your shit off. Get your shit off quick,

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<v Speaker 1>shut the fuck up, and then kickback. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to interview you real quick. Wait, so what

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<v Speaker 1>do you so? Can you talk about? Can you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about anything yet? Yeah, it's it's just some media, some

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<v Speaker 1>media shit, a new show. It's a upstart show. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I don't want to say that much,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's an upstart show, some new shit, something that

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<v Speaker 1>never been done before. So it's not like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>go to nobody know what I'm saying, Like if I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to, I can't really talk to Norri and

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<v Speaker 1>get no insight on it. Like if I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>hit Gilly, I couldn't hit. If I wanted to hit

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Button, I couldn't If I wanted to hit you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be gonna be a podcast or TV shop.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a show, you know what I'm saying. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a reality show. I'm not going on the reality show

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<v Speaker 1>or nothing. It's like, are you hosting the White Rapper

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<v Speaker 1>shows Resurrection, I'm hosting, but I'm not. I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 1>those ship like it's sign that never been done. It's

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<v Speaker 1>some I'm signed. I'm excited to do. I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 1>the people to see and I'm gonna let them announce

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<v Speaker 1>it and you know, do the media thing with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm excited. It's some dope shit. Man, it's some

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<v Speaker 1>dope shit. I'm excited to be able to do something

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<v Speaker 1>that's not so I don't have to be like when

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<v Speaker 1>we was talking about the Nods ship. Nads don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have to put out no music right now, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. But the fact that he is, let

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<v Speaker 1>you know, love his ship, yeah, I mean I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's doing it for the money. Both King's diseases are.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think this one is much better than they both.

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<v Speaker 1>They both dope. They both classic, man, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>feel good in the way. In that way. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about a clap. I mean, that's that's simply they're

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<v Speaker 1>both really fucking good in their own way and that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't want to get up here and

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<v Speaker 1>start comparing this album to this album, because that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you get in trouble, throwing that sea word around. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. We'll see shout out to hit Boy, that's

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<v Speaker 1>my brother man, shout out the hit Boy, Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to hit Boy him. Hit Boy and NAS got a

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<v Speaker 1>real got a. Their dynamic is insane dynamic. It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing is is like hit Boy is a

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<v Speaker 1>West Coast guy, but he'd be getting in that bag

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<v Speaker 1>man on that on he's Yeah, he's a go. I

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<v Speaker 1>think hit Boys like one of the grades of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>His range is insane, the type of shit he could do, definitely, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a new project I called Don't Call Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled up players some joints early before it came out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let me know you was fucking with that. That that

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<v Speaker 1>made me feel why is that title important? I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of started recording Don't Call Now, I'll probably say before

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<v Speaker 1>the summer. Yeah, but I kind of got caught up

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<v Speaker 1>on this new situation that I got right and then

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<v Speaker 1>I was at that point where it's like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>really even want to put this shit out right now?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to just focus on closing this deal and

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<v Speaker 1>right over here? And I did. I did that. I

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<v Speaker 1>did everything that I had to do handling that all

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<v Speaker 1>through the summer. So that's kind of why I was

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<v Speaker 1>just on some low shit handling that. But it's still

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<v Speaker 1>something in me that's like, YO, put this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>write this, you gotta finish this song. And it's like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>you really don't really just chill and just get this

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<v Speaker 1>bag right now. But it's something in me that's like yo.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I had this moment where I'm like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>you figured it out, my niggas. You you you figured

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<v Speaker 1>out what's work, what's gonna work for you right now?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, damn, you don't even got a manager,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even got an agent, you don't got a publicist,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't got a PR person, you don't got none

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<v Speaker 1>of that. So you went out and you closed this

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<v Speaker 1>deal dolo. So can't nobody say but if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>for me, NA, everybody who could say, if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>for me, when it come to me, I done lost

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<v Speaker 1>all that shit right, and I lost all that shit already,

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<v Speaker 1>So anything that you could say, if it wasn't for me,

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<v Speaker 1>God took that away from me. I had to get

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<v Speaker 1>all this shit back on my own. So don't call now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no reason for you to hit me up now

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't need anything from you now. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you fuck with me, cool, but you don't got to

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<v Speaker 1>hit me and be like yo, yo bro. Now. It

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<v Speaker 1>was wild times I needed that, yo bro. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>come out here and be like yo, my mental health

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<v Speaker 1>was bad. I needed nah. You know, you got kids,

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<v Speaker 1>got my fiance, I got my mom's, got my b

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<v Speaker 1>But it was times where you feel like damn, ain't

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<v Speaker 1>nobody fucking with me? Like damn, what's the conversation when

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<v Speaker 1>my name get born? It was times where I wondered

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<v Speaker 1>that you know what I'm saying. There was times where

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<v Speaker 1>it's niggas that you done did millions of verses for

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<v Speaker 1>us because when you was on young money, you was

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<v Speaker 1>on tour and way ain't probably ain't even want you

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<v Speaker 1>still entertaining that PIF projects and shit like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>you still throwing niggas on your ship. You getting on

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<v Speaker 1>Niggashit but then when your ball kind of slowed up

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, like, yo, bro, can you can you

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<v Speaker 1>up post this for me? And for a while you

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<v Speaker 1>do it, and then you be like, hold on you

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<v Speaker 1>you asking me to post some shit for you that

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't asked me to get on, right, that's I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even see myself doing that shit. So now it's like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't call now man. I figured this shit out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I ain't really pressed to get on get on

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<v Speaker 1>your mixtape or get on your album no more, and

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't be pressed to get on mine, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>blatantly clear that it's different. But fuck, maybe I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>at that point in my career where it's different and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not what it was with a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for new relationships, it's time for new money.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't handle you like, I ain't really got no

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<v Speaker 1>history like that with you, so I ain't about to

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<v Speaker 1>pull up and wrap on your show. And it's like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck with you, Like you gave me valuable information at

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<v Speaker 1>a time where you don't have to. You could have

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<v Speaker 1>just said, yo, come wrap on my ship and let

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<v Speaker 1>me get some views up. It's like, now you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I think you should do, but you know it

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<v Speaker 1>would be dope. I think you should blah blah blah. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And I value that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I don't. I don't mind coming doing

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<v Speaker 1>this type ship, this ship that I'm doing right here.

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<v Speaker 1>I know my interviews a monumental. I know I could talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I got wisdom, I know I got jewels,

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<v Speaker 1>But now I'm at a point where I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>want to come talk to y'all. Now a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>y'all I don't. It's like we could have been did this.

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<v Speaker 1>We could I could have been came and wrapped and

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<v Speaker 1>I chopped it up, light up a blunt talk my ship.

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<v Speaker 1>But y'all don't want that until they announce what they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna announced. So that's real. Don't call now, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start like even don't even congratulate me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It already attached to like a major streaming platform,

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<v Speaker 1>streaming platform, so like a Hulu and Netflix type specifically

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<v Speaker 1>streaming platform platform, huge film at a nice lot fire

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<v Speaker 1>rhythm and flow. Season two. I'm not a judge on anything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but shout out, shout out to my team,

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to my partners. You know, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep guessing. I'm pretty good at the guessing thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tell you, I'll tell you off the camera. Okay, okay, camera,

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<v Speaker 1>No that's big man. You know what we didn't talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're from Harlem definitely? Uh, what were your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on the Locks dip Set versus. I know it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a while now, but I'm just curious. You know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Dipset being the biggest entity to ever represent that Harlem flag,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what were your thoughts on what happened there?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think with the dip set Locks Versus.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, shout out to the Dipset, Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to the Locks. What they did with the verses was

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<v Speaker 1>monumental because you never seen it like that. That shit

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a concert, definitely. You had never seen people

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<v Speaker 1>that close to the stage. You had never seen that

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<v Speaker 1>many people on the stage. You had never seen that

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<v Speaker 1>people around this sam or something. That shit was a

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<v Speaker 1>It was a real event. And in Harlem fashion, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they had to show up fashion be late. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The niggas from Yonkers was like, get your ass out here.

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<v Speaker 1>And they made it a show and it was entertaining

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<v Speaker 1>and I liked that, and I like the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>even through watching it, I was like, damn cams, they

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<v Speaker 1>pulling styles, pulling cam shoe and they took the bandanna

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<v Speaker 1>and threw it on the floor and then l's and

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<v Speaker 1>they was all in their face go uptown to Harlems,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I love it. But at the end

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<v Speaker 1>to see them be like, yo, we about to go

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<v Speaker 1>on tour. That did it. That did it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, this they did this for the city,

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<v Speaker 1>they did this for the culture. But now that we

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<v Speaker 1>got that out the way. The sequencing for the songs

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<v Speaker 1>for dips that I think was we're gonna build up

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<v Speaker 1>the momentum. We're gonna start out with this this, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna get to this, and then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get to this. And I think the locks was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all forgot about this. Ain't nobody in the world you

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<v Speaker 1>know how to the kiss. But they did the back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth, back to back. Then they're going in the freestyles,

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<v Speaker 1>then they go I think that was I think to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was that was like the showmanship and the performance

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<v Speaker 1>value of and even when you got going in over

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<v Speaker 1>who shot you? We gotta stand up. I gotta stand

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<v Speaker 1>up for Harlem. It was a few times where they

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<v Speaker 1>was like hold on, they wrapping over. Look, this is

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<v Speaker 1>real hip hop. We no vocals. It was a few

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<v Speaker 1>of them songs they had the vocals. But Addie, Addie Kiss,

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<v Speaker 1>Addie Kiss was in real form. I know that type

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<v Speaker 1>of vibe that he was on. That wasn't Jada drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a different type. No, Jada was fucking lasered in,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was I'm getting It's the best, the best

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<v Speaker 1>versus ever good thing. I think. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>the best app one ever. I think it it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Before that, it was the Gucci uh geezy one, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Dipseid shit was way ahead. Look people, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm kind of in journalist j mode. So if

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like this is an interview of an interview

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<v Speaker 1>interview and it's just don't worry about it, because I

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<v Speaker 1>have questions that I like to ask people because that's

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<v Speaker 1>my that's my job now. So I like to ask

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<v Speaker 1>questions and get opinions. What did you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>jaw rule? Fat Joe Versus was speaking on verses I missed.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably missed wonderful. I probably missed like the first

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes. I didn't see the whole thing, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how it started. I thought that it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>as if the second half, I thought Joe came out

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of records that he thought were like bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>They were big, maybe like on the rhythm radio chart,

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<v Speaker 1>but they weren't like big like in the old shit

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<v Speaker 1>like he did the That's what I think. I think

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, Johru controlled the battle, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think Joe eight up for it at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought it was actually pretty close. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's like jaw War one. I was like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of close, like it was the sequencing

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<v Speaker 1>once again. It was Yeah, I think I think Fad

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<v Speaker 1>Joe ended it great. I think, like if we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like I think fad Joe won the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, I just think, like, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm not sure like what they thought was gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 1>because Fat Joe has obviously got radio records, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>also like a part of d I T C. He's

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? And and to go against

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<v Speaker 1>Joe rule. Joe Rover really don't have that kind of pedigree,

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<v Speaker 1>so the kind of records that would have I would

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<v Speaker 1>have liked to have seen Joe really tap into Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he did my lifestyle right, he did,

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<v Speaker 1>see I missed that part. But this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You forget that jow was on Murder Green. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. You forget that job even had This

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing. It's only twenty records, So I missed

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<v Speaker 1>joa rule doing holla holl. I didn't see that. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see. I missed like a lot, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>But then once I started tuning in, I thought Fat

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<v Speaker 1>Joe was leaning into the Jada shit a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>too much. But it was cool. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably my least favorite verses so far, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love Fat Joe. I liked it. The versus thing

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<v Speaker 1>is the Versus thing is a little it was. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a point sometimes the matchups could be. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a point in time where I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the worst versus battle ever. But then it started to

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<v Speaker 1>get better. In the I tweeted that I said, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the worst versus battle ever. I was glad to

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<v Speaker 1>see people be able to like remember like, oh ship,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all had some ship now Jose legend, fifty came through,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty fifty came through, and it's so it was much

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<v Speaker 1>of like a like damn because jo was like even

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<v Speaker 1>like him performing Clapback right, which was like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best Scotts Store beaches ever Scott's story. But what's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy is when that song came out, even though it

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<v Speaker 1>was hard, no one gave a fuck. That was that

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<v Speaker 1>was it was over. It was already over. So he

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<v Speaker 1>put out even though clap Back that beat was crazy

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm a Josh Finn, Yeah, but like he he

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<v Speaker 1>performed flat back like it was a joint and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yo, this beat was crazy. This song

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<v Speaker 1>was cool, but like no one gave a fuck when

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<v Speaker 1>this song came out and the beat came on in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That's the thing about verses, It's like where's

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<v Speaker 1>it house that where's the presence? Where is like? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that way about Jez and Gucci. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeezi got wait, but Gucci got a lot of records,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jiezi Records was bigger. That's what I thought. The bigger. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think record for Record, presidence, the presence of Gucci.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Gucci just came out disrespectful as fuck. We've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen that. Like, Gucci literally came out to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I killed you man, Like, what the fuck is going

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<v Speaker 1>on here? GEEZI record for Record, and I love Gucci,

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that in certain circles, most circles Gucci. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be Gucci, but I think in the versus

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<v Speaker 1>spectrum GIZI Washington. With that being said, it was close

0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.720
<v Speaker 1>because of the disrespect. We've never seen that disrespect before.

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<v Speaker 1>That was crazy. But Fat Joe Joe Rule, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>huge Fat Joe fan. I think he's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most slept on artists ever, like lyrically like, he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite artists. I just don't know. The first

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<v Speaker 1>album I had was Jealous Ones Envy, Like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>think some of those records he performed were cool, like

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<v Speaker 1>that ass up, face down record with Dre, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think that record it was it was I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was versus worthy, and I understand

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<v Speaker 1>the point he was trying to make. I still got red.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes sometimes the platform is so big, it's like, how

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<v Speaker 1>could I not how could I not bring my man out?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. It's not even him bringing

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<v Speaker 1>dre out. I think he was trying to prove a

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<v Speaker 1>point that he still has current records that have been

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<v Speaker 1>coming out, but like some of those records might not

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<v Speaker 1>be the best fit for the platform of versus in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. How did you feel about how did you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about Fat Joe performing Well, I don't know performing

0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:11.680
<v Speaker 1>but playing the Pun record Twins. I don't think he

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 1>played a punk record. He wasn't on I don't. I

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't see that part that had to be early. Did

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 1>he play because I I'm like, though, there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't perform Twins. No, he did Twins and shot

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<v Speaker 1>him come out and do Pun's part. The thing about

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<v Speaker 1>Like Joe is like if it's I just I don't know, man,

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if him. I guess when you see it,

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<v Speaker 1>Fat Joe verstar Wo makes sense, But I didn't think

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>it made a lot of sense. I think Fat Joe's

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<v Speaker 1>more like got a lot more like that real rap

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>ship that I'd like to you know, if he would

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<v Speaker 1>if he would have went up against Jadakiss, that would

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 1>have made sense, but Jada would have won, but it

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:50.720
<v Speaker 1>would have made more sense to me because I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look into the camera and I'm gonna say this, right,

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 1>who did Jada battle? This is a fast essay from

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<v Speaker 1>j Mills. Jada Kiss can not being versus anymore. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no I don't. I don't think any sort of way

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.919
<v Speaker 1>that he's involved in versus. Remember how like on one

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:09.880
<v Speaker 1>O six in Park they had to like retire bow

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow Ship. It was like like, come on yo, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is this doesn't even make sense. Yeah, mister

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Park that I mean, Jadakiss is mister versus. So listen. Ever,

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and then I knew a lot of people who thought

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Fab was gonna be and I'm like, Y're crazy and

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>shout out the Fab is one thing I seen. They

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.920
<v Speaker 1>had a twentieth anniversary for Fab first autum like Fab

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>September eleventh, as as a New Yorker and A and

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>A and a dude who was like heavy in the

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 1>mixtape eraor at that time and used to buy the

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>j Arms instrumental freestyle you know, instrumental mixtapes and write

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<v Speaker 1>my freestyle to him. Fab was like Fab was like

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<v Speaker 1>God to people from that era, stacking the punchlines on

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the punchlines and not waiting for the eighth ball or

0:23:58.080 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the fourth body, and I'm coming in on the first ball.

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, I hope all the soul tapes end

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.640
<v Speaker 1>up on the DSPs. Soul Tapes of Classics, man, Yeah,

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>sold tapes of classics and Fab? What's the other one? Uh,

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Fab's best ship? Unfortunately it's nothing something the one with

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Junior read that song with Junior read gangsters don't play

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and they have to joint with uh t pain? That

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>album was crazy, that that album was insane. But I

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 1>think Fab's best ship isn't on the DSPs unfortunately, Like

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the Soule tape, don't think it's his best I think

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 1>that's his like you know, and what what's the two

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>tapes he just put out? Uh? The first one I

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>loved fuck with the like vintage eighties nineties looking artwork.

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 1>The last two make like the last two projects he

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 1>put out. They were both he just puts out a

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of mixtape ship And I'm like, bro, I think

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Fab would thrive as an independent artist. Is Fab fab

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>still on depth? Jam? I sure think so? Probably shout

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>out to death Jam No idea what they do for

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>their artists anymore. No fucking clue, Like, oh, you're on

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:11.919
<v Speaker 1>death Jam, what's that even mean anymore? Sh Uh, Fredo

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Bang just asked to get off of death Jam. Shout

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>out to Freddo Bank. Who do you think if you

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>had to pair little Wayne against someone in the verses?

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Who would? And he Birdman said wat himself. I kind

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 1>of feel I feel like there's certain people that's just like, no, no,

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>those certain people got to battle each other. I feel

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>like Wayne is in that boat. I feel like Wayne is.

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it's Drake. I saw something today, right, saw

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a tweet and it said like a happy Birthday Wayne tweet,

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 1>and it says some shit like Wayne been rapping for

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 1>twenty five years, he put out x amount of albums,

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>twelve albums or something like that, said he gave us Nikki,

0:25:55.840 --> 0:26:00.119
<v Speaker 1>he gave us Drake, he gave us young money, and

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>he's still in his thirties. Salute my nigga, Wayne Man.

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>You think about nah Man Be and Wayne in the

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>same age, same age. So when I see some shit

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>like that, it's like, damn been rapping twenty five He's

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>been not rapping for twenty five that's crazy. Been in

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 1>the industry, on the charts, bling bling every time we come, right,

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 1>He been in with the he been twenty five years.

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Gave you Nikki, he gave you Drake, gave you, Tiger

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>fucking gave you j Mills. You know what I'm saying.

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Even if you want to be like, yeah, but Mills,

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you was out before that. He helped rebrand me. So

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I ain't going to I ain't going to like not

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that, you know what I'm saying. He did all

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the dedication to the Carters. He did all that shit.

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>He went through his ups, his downs, he bounced back,

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>went through it with Birdman, all that shit and still

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>in his thirties. Hey, come on, man, he's one of

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>them people. No, he is. No. Who do I think

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Wayne could go against some verses. He's in the He's

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>in the room where it's like him. They keep saying

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Drake too. I think Drake is in that room. Ye, Drake, Hove,

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Kanye Beyonce, Mary J. Blige snooping DMX. I would have said, not,

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.479
<v Speaker 1>I love Mary, but Mary's not in the room. Mary's

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 1>in that room. I think, like Mary, Mariah Carey mar room.

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I honestly feel like Jermaine dupre Puff, Doctor Dre Farrell.

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 1>They in that room too. I heard what Jamaine Dupree

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>said about he is in the Songwriters Hall of Fame.

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>This isn't a songwriter's verse. I don't see a world

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>in which Mary could beat Beyonce in the versus all

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>those other those other names you mentioned. Here's the world

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:47.400
<v Speaker 1>in which they all can beat each other. I don't

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's about I don't think it's so much. I'm right. No, Look,

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce was in a group, Beyonce got Destiny child bags

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>beyond Beyonce will What I'm saying is all those names

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned. Don't listen. Listen, listen. I am part of

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Mary's not an immediate I'm part of this ship. Now.

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>You will not Marry's a legend, but she's not in that.

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Not say this while we are in the same frame.

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>You will not say Mary is amazing, because he's not

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>about to say obliviate like obliterate like Beyonce would obliterate Mary.

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 1>She won't obliterate her in a versus battle. It literally

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 1>would be not a good look for Mary to do that.

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>It would be a horrible look Beyonce. Look, bro, bro,

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought, look, Mary is a legend. You know what

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>you know when you said all those names, all those

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>people could beat each other. No, but but this is

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the third thing. This is the thing. I'm not saying

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>who could beat each other. That's no, no, no, no no,

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that you could put who's in that room.

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Mary's in that room, Mary's in that room? Telling you

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Mary's in that room, what's the four one one? My

0:28:55.320 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Maria is not in that room. She ain't She's not

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>in the room. She's in the room next door with Mary.

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>So you're telling me Mariah Carey and Mary Jay aren't

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>in the room with Beyonce. The room. Listen, there, it's

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a room. Drake is in that room, Mary, Mariah, Beyonce

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>in that room. Missy she in that room, Bro, she

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>in that room. No disrespect to Missy. No, no, listen,

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>all this is all disrespected. You're saying. I'm not evenna

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>let you get away with the journalist. Jay is in

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the building. Let's get it going. I cannot let you

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>do this. I can't let they are all in that room.

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't think I don't think anyone's in the

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>room with Beyonce, could if if if you wanted to

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>put Beyonce in the class by myself. So Beyonce, she's

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>got a loft above the house. You know why I

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>don't get mad at you saying that because Beyonce, because

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>it may be people look it may be people that

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>looked at that the same way when bird Man said

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>that about Wayne. So I get it. It's it's it's

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to each his own. I get your opinion. I'm just

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>saying I have a difference. I feel like they're all

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>in that room. So just feel like there's certain people

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that I think there's a tier below the tier you're

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about. And it's like Mariah Man, I feel like

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 1>that ship is a is a one level green room.

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I don't feel like it's any tears.

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>You feel like they all just sitting in the room.

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe or maybe I feel like that. I feel like

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>they're all in that room. Listen, Mariah is a fucking legend.

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like Jamaine Duprie, how about this. Maybe

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I was a little disrespectful to Mariah because Maria to me,

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say that Jamaine. I'm feel like

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like Jermaine Dupree should be like, oh

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Jamaine the Precabat or Puffbat, doctor Dre. It's certain people

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that's like nah for you know what, you know what

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Jamaine Dupree, Missy Mary, Beyonce, Lil Wayne Drake, jay Z,

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>those type of people they in that room over there,

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>like you can't even get in from the outside. You

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>gotta wait for one of them to leave. Mariah, Mariah

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>did put out the greatest hit to It was just

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>called the Ones. You know what I heard, you know

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>what I heard on the radio the other day. So

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe Mariah's in the room New York, in the house.

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>That's how I said. I just that's how long hush

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>ship go back to. Maybe Maria should go back to. No,

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe Mariah's in the room vocals. I didn't want to

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>see the Beyonce versus ship go her ship go back, man.

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Mary's teetering on. I don't know what

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it is. What's good with you? I love Mary, I

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>love Mary. The thing is very Mary. Mary's in that room.

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we can agree to disagree, we can agree

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to disagree, but I'm telling you Mary, she's in that room. Man. Again,

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>what's the four one one in my life? We can't

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>put we can't put anyone in the same room as Beyonce,

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>female vocalists, et cetera. I just don't know Rihanna might

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>be in that room. Though. You said female vocalists. Who's

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna Beyonce? So now you just who's gonna beat Beyonce.

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not saying who could beat who. I'm

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>just saying, but who's in the room. I'm just saying

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>who's in the room. I don't know. Mary is not

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>close to Beyonce. I'm not saying that Mary is not

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>an incredible and influential and but but who the fucking

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>they're both in that room. Man shout out to Beyonce.

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Man shout Beyonce. Shout out to Mary's Nicki Minaj in

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>that room. I think niggis in that room too. I

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>think Nikki Foxy come on, no, no, no, no, no,

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>no yo. You know why, you know why put Foxy

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Brown and Little Kim in the same room as Beyonce

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and Nicki Minaj. Bro Drake is in that room, missus.

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm naming people that in a versus. It's like it's like, now,

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Foxy Brown is incredible. I love Foxy Broke. It's like

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>it's incredible album. It's likens Kendrick is in that room too,

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Kendrick in that room. It's not I'm not doing a

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>certain everything. I'm just telling you artists that when you

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 1>think about you know what, you know it's the problem.

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>They thought that same thing with the locks. When we

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>talk about the lock. Niggas thought O dipset got a

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>cold following. They got the cold following. But you forgot

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to see you for see you forgot about the chain

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>gang freestyles on the Cluminati because I don't know if

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you was getting those mixtapes where you was at. So

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>when niggas get on them stages and Foxy start performing

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>versus from freestyles on Clue mixtapes when it was her

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>a Z nods and called mego or nature, and we

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>remember them because it's the incredible. Yeah. Yeah, when Kim

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>start going into I've got no time. If they Donald twenty,

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>if they Donald, they see now you you now you

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>know what you're doing. You having people battle of a

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>people that's excluded from the world in which everyone has

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>fair chances. It ain't no chances. They worked hard enough

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>to get to the room where they ain't even in

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 1>this conversation. They're in a room not even in this conversation.

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's crazy when the last time you listened

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to Monster, When the last time you listened to Monster,

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>like four days ago, I listened to my beautiful dark

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>twist of Fantasy. Often he in that room? Who Kanye,

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>he's in that room? Yeah? But when the last time

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you listened to Monsteryo, four days ago, I was driving

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>You think you don't you think she like, you don't

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 1>think she deserves to be in that Like I'm not

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.399
<v Speaker 1>even gonna lie in the room. You know why I'm

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>naming these people that's supposed to be in this room

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 1>because versus and I've learned this, and we're gonna talk

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>about some other shit because this ain't the versus interview.

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Versus is about performance. It's about stage presence, it's about personalities,

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's about time. And all of these people

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm naming, I think when they get on that stage,

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of times you might have the better records.

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I think Bow Wow had better records than Sojia Boys.

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Listen Sojia Boy with long do or and shout out

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the bow Wow shot Soldier Boy. You can't tell you

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't watch that bullshit battle, but I'm I watched it,

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna tell you watch. Sojia Boy played she

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Make It Clap four different times? Yeah cause so boys

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:26.800
<v Speaker 1>got hold on record, but hold on. He played his version,

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Then he played the remix for French Boy French Out.

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Then he played a version from Nicki Minaj. We never

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.919
<v Speaker 1>even heard it. We still haven't heard this verse, nigga

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>like he played the same song three times, No, nigga.

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>He played a version of she Make a Clap with

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Nicki Minaj. That oh shit, oh shit. You know it's

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>crazy though, Soldier Boy is uh, she got intense oneos

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>record minute. Soldier boys records are way bigger than baw

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Wo Got Crazy. Sojio Boy's biggest song. He might have

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>as many records, but Sojo Boy's biggest records are way

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>bigger than bow Wow's biggest records. I'm just telling you

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I would have just like technical babyface, not my Harlem bias.

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>But I just I thought, yo, Teddy Riley, it is

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Teddy Riley, and then I forgot I didn't. I was

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>like damn. I was like, oh shit, Babyface did this.

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>He did this, and I learned that shit through the

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>what's his name? Then he brought out he brought it.

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>He said, yeah, uh, this is when baby Face fronted.

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:23.919
<v Speaker 1>Let me sure how baby Face fronted? He said, yeah,

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>his next record right here, that nigga broke out an

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>acoustic guitar. I think he started playing when will I

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>See You Again? Like singing it. This is before it

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>was a stage. He was singing this ship to the Instagram,

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>had the feet tap and all that, and I'm like, damn,

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Teddy wi Fi was fucked up. It was so much

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>going on, It's like, oh, it doesn't matter about it?

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Am I lying? Bro? It was like it don't even

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>matter about the records no more. And I think now

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 1>where Versus came to the stage, shit, Earth Winning Fire

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and the Osley Brothers in SWV and Escape. These are

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>groups where it's like, yo, they both got hits. So

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>now it's all about well who could sell it more? Hooka, whokah,

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna look better? Who's going you know, Bobby Brown

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of hits. Who would you like to say?

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see Mary n Verses came up there.

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>My moms was looking at the verses like, go ahead, Keith,

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>who do who? Go ahead? Who do you think would

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>make sense? Because I would love to see Mary in

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a verses? Who would Who do you think she should

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>go against? Mary versus Missy might be solid. Now they're

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.439
<v Speaker 1>in the room, man, we gotta we gotta talk about

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>some Look. Look, I've had media training, right, and it's

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>what's going on about what five months? I've had media training.

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna get me to say Mary the Mary

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and Beyonce. Oh that was I almost fell for it too.

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I almost said, nah, look Beyonce, Maryka, they're both queens.

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>They're both in the room, untouchable. Now Beyonce is winning,

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>though I don't know. I'm just gonna embrace greatness and

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>just be happy that. But I'm fucking good Beyonce is winning.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who would Who would you know? Who wins?

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Whoever's alive to see it? Fair enough? It's free, Okay,

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that's an incredible win. We would get to see that

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>for free. Who would win if Drake and Wayne battled

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 1>on versus because they did the tour, the Drake versus

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Wayne tour. O don't know, I don't think they would

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>do it, but it'd be cool to see because they

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>did do the Drake versus Little Who. Do you think though?

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>So if you who'd you put your money on? You

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>had to bet one hundred thousand dollars. I'm not betting

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>on that who, but you had to someone said, look you, no,

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a hundred grand I don't have to

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>do anything free bet make sure I've fulfill my obligations

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to the contract that I just that's all I have

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to really do. I don't have to do anything. But

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I think both of them. I think I

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>think Drake and Lil Wayne. You know what's crazy to me.

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:47.800
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy to me to see like all of the

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>records that Drake is breaking in the time that he's

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>been in the industry. You unders what I'm saying. It's

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. Would we we finally got like Drake

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Drake like best I ever had so far? Go on

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>like what oh what that was nine twenty ten? Yeah,

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>think about like breaking the Beatles records and I like

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>the like I think I think more like I think

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Drake's probably got like he could probably do it verses

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>with just his features. But I think Wayne can't get

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:18.479
<v Speaker 1>in the bags. He can he can always into versus

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>battle say I signed you. It ain't even about that.

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I think. I think with Wayne, we forget it. We

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 1>put my money on. It was one year that Wayne

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I put my money. It was on like three hundred

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Son records, involving like all the morning he had from

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.359
<v Speaker 1>him and the features and twenty. I put my money

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>on Wayne just because I like, I think that on

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 1>stage he'd do better and he could. He could say

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>some slick ship that Drake couldn't answer to. I think

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>with Versus, it's hard to tell because it's about the sequencing. Man.

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Secreencing is important. I think the performance at this it

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>used to not be about performance because people would just

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>play songs and then be on the IG live, like

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 1>just think, just think a way that ship came from

0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 1>us watching it in the pandemic and the crib to

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>now it's fucking it was slowing down money. I think

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the dipset like shit put a whole new energy behind it.

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.240
<v Speaker 1>So shout out to uh Swizz and shout out to Timberland,

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>shout the Swiss and shot the Timblin for keeping it

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>going past to past, everybody being quarantine and shit like that.

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. That was some real shit

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to figure out a way for people to get money.

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>That did it before? You know, you got to think

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>about like fucking boy Wonder and hit Boy. You know that.

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.240
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<v Speaker 1>know now that you're doing TV stuff and you're doing

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>rapping just because you kind of love it, right, Yeah,

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I love this shit. Man. My fiance she'd be telling me,

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>stop lying, You're never gonna stop rapping. You love it,

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>And I tell it like, I'm not gonna stop rapping

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't feel like we in the era right

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<v Speaker 1>now where you have to retire or you have to

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I look at it. I look at something like Two Chains.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched too. I watched Two Chains reinvent itself to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where you don't give a fuck how old

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<v Speaker 1>two Change is. You know what I'm saying, You don't

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>care how old fab is. Jim Jim don't die his beard.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't. You don't give a fuck how old Jim

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Jones is put on L Coppo and you like it's

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>a nigga talking. So I think it's I think it's

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of yes shot that he makes. It's kind of

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 1>like at this point, man, it's it's how you were

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>just giving me some game before we came on camera

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, how to keep ship going from this

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.800
<v Speaker 1>point like what I'm doing like certain ship work for

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>certain people, you know what I'm saying. And I feel

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>like where I'm at right now, I love this ship

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 1>so much. I'm back to the point where it was like, damn,

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm at a point where it's like do you want

0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to do it? Do you need to do it? Or

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 1>do you have to do you know what I'm saying.

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And with me, it's like, Yo, I remember a time

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 1>where I was doing this shit and wasn't really looking

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>for nothing from it, and that was the most fun

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I ever had. I wasn't obligated that. Even right now

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>with the empis, I ain't obligated to nothing. I can

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 1>drop so every day if I want, you know, So,

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not like an obligation to anything. You free to

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>do what you want. You're free to do this new shit,

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And they not saying I

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>can't do my music. Shit. It's just like, Yo, we

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>just need you to do this this blah blah. This

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>is what we're paying you for, right, you know what

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And now it's like, yo, bro, you could

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>really just do whatever the fuck you want. I'm not

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:41.720
<v Speaker 1>looking for Oh I'm trying to. I got plaques already.

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I got plaques that I'm still waiting to put up

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>when I'm moving to the new crib. So it's like,

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you're not doing it for a plaque. And this is

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>another thing. This is another thing I had to I

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 1>had to learn sometimes you could be chasing some shit

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>that you already got, and I'm explaining to you. I

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>was ordering my place and shit right, and I was

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>ordering like, uh, young money gold album, fucking I am

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>not a human being album because I was on two

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>records on there, and it's platinum. All right, get my plaque.

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 1>But I never really paid attention to this type of shit.

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>So I would go to producer's houses and they'd be like, yo, Miles.

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I would go to an engineer house and he would

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>be engineered on an album and he would have a

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:23.919
<v Speaker 1>plaque and I wouldn't but I'm on it, and he'd

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 1>be like, yo, order, So now I'm ordering my plaques,

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Billboard plaques. Young Money debuted at number one, hit number one.

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>The second album debuted here Soul List, so this one

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>was number So I'm like, now I'm ordering all these

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>these plaques, these Young Money plaques. So I'm like, you know,

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:45.239
<v Speaker 1>i'd be on my geek shit sometimes, man, let me

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 1>google myself on Billboard, right, let me just see. So

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like, damn, I google myself, look up to date,

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>back search at all that shit, and I'm like, damn.

0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I was on the Billboard charts when I was still

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.800
<v Speaker 1>living in my mom's crib. I was on the Billboard

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>charts before I was on the Billboard charts with Young Money.

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 1>But I just never knew. So I started ordering all

0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>them shits. Order no, No, No, or or the streets

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 1>melting feature in Swiss Beats. I don't give a fuck

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 1>if it's number twenty, if it peaked that twenty eight

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and it hit forty three, or if it peaked that

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>number twelve and it was dropped down to eighty something,

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 1>it was there, so you need to see that every

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>day so you could know that's not something you need

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 1>to keep chasing, chase some other shit. Wake up every day,

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.319
<v Speaker 1>roll you up blunt and look at that time where

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you was in the hot one hundred and you peaked

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that number twenty three in two thousand and four. Was

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>it hard hard to figure out like kind of how

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 1>to keep monetizing J Mills? Fuck? Yeah, it was hard

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>because I ain't really have no real management and the

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>time where it was like the whole rock Nation shit,

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>or people were signing to groups or you're not signed

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to a manager, you signed to a management group, like

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.399
<v Speaker 1>I ain't really I was just one of them people.

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>It was like, I I know how to record myself,

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I know how to do all this shit. I know

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 1>how to put it out. I just put it out.

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>But I'm getting lost and now it's people involved. You

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>need to be a part of a system, some sort

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 1>of some sort of machine. If you just want to

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>put the music out and do the music shit, you

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>need to be with some people that could pick up

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 1>where you stop with the music. They could pick up

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 1>with the rest of the business. And I think I

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 1>just got so lost in it. I just like putting

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>music out like I ain't pressed on the bread, the fame,

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the numbers. It's like, bro, I'm gonna be real with you.

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Once you doesnet been on that. You don't been around

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the world with the whole young money shit and you

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>don't have to smack DVD the battle fame and you

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:52.840
<v Speaker 1>know what it's like for flex to drop bombs on

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 1>your record and do that you didn't you did. That's

0:46:56.360 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 1>why I in the freestyle, I say, already did what

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I came to do. All my visions became true. But

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I ain't living in the past. I'm living in the now,

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Like I was in that

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>magazine that was the first magazine I was in. I

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 1>remember doing the interview in front of my mom. I

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.240
<v Speaker 1>still lived in my mom's crib when I did that interview.

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:17.359
<v Speaker 1>People who can't see it on camera. It's the double

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>excel eminem fifty cent and Doctor Dre when fifty first

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 1>got with them, and I remember I was like, damn,

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I felt so excited because I had a whole page.

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 1>But this is coming from being in the source and

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like off the radar, having like a piece of the

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 1>paper you're a part of shit like that, and you

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 1>wake up. You look at your plaques, and you look

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>at your kids, and you look at awards and shit

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 1>for award shows that you wouldn't go to no more

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>if they invited you because you don't. It's like you performed,

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:50.919
<v Speaker 1>I won shit, I and if I never do it again,

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:53.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful enough to know, Yeah, that's what God. God

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 1>put that in your life for that moment, for you

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.399
<v Speaker 1>to get to some other shit, you know what I'm saying.

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of time I don't think people be

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 1>grateful for the shit they're already done because sometimes you

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>can't see it, you know what I'm saying. That's the

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>whole thing with the plaque shit. It's like, Yo, if

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you look at all this shit, you'd be like, am

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 1>I really still trying to bust my ass to get

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 1>on the billboard charts? Or am I trying to get

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 1>on the billboard charts for you? Like am I still

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:25.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to go platinum? Or am I trying to go

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:28.800
<v Speaker 1>platinum for you? For you to be like, see, I

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>told you my nigga, do it, nigger, I know I

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 1>could do it even if I don't do it. I

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:35.799
<v Speaker 1>just choose not to do it because got some other

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:37.719
<v Speaker 1>shit going on. But when you don't have nothing going on,

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to I'm talking right now is talking from

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:44.439
<v Speaker 1>a standpoint where it's like, yeah, I'm up here, don't

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:48.359
<v Speaker 1>call now is available on all platforms, but you don't

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:52.839
<v Speaker 1>stream it. My bills are gonna get paid. The Range Rover,

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna come take it. I don't owe anything

0:48:55.760 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>on my jewelry. I don't owe anybody anything, you know

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:03.240
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I don't feel like nobody owe me anything,

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So I could talk like this,

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 1>and in my mind it's like, I see why when

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>people get to a certain point, they just be like, yo, man,

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this shit because I want to, Like I

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 1>don't have to, you know, like people be like, I

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:18.879
<v Speaker 1>don't really have to do this shit, and that should

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 1>just sounds so generic. Like right, it's like, now I'm

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 1>doing this shit because I love it, so you should

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 1>love this shit that I give you even more just

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 1>knowing I really don't have to do this shit, right right?

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>You know that's fair? Yo? What was like the creative process?

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to like a record like Bad Rock

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:40.439
<v Speaker 1>or like a record like every Girl, Like how would

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you would you would? Did you guys record those together?

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Or would you guys? We recorded every Girl and Bad

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Rock together, And once again, I'm gonna speak to the

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 1>genius or Wayne real quick. Wayne formulated that whole every

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Girl bedrock type shit. Uh Wayne changed my whole verse

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:02.240
<v Speaker 1>around on bad Rock. But the end was the beginning,

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>and I think the beginning was the end. But he

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, Yo, it sounds better on a walk in

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:07.839
<v Speaker 1>this shit that he known from being with the hot

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 1>boys and shit like that, and he shared that with

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:13.480
<v Speaker 1>us like he used to always share that shit with us, like, Yo,

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get on these records with y'all, like I'm

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:17.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna sell it with y'all. I ain't just gonna throw

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>y'all out there. So that's why he was on every Girl.

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:21.440
<v Speaker 1>He was on Bad Rock, he was on he was

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>in the videos, he was bringing us on stage with him,

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>he was he was doing all of that because he

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:27.200
<v Speaker 1>was trying to sell us. So really that was Wayne.

0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I did the Bedrock, I mean every Girl video with

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>all the different type of girls getting out the video,

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 1>like skinny girls, big girls, small girls, white girls, black girls.

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 1>This this religion, this religion. That was his idea to

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>make it seem like we like just kept getting out

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the car like, yeah, we're just gonna be in a

0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:46.399
<v Speaker 1>factory with the car and we're just gonna so Drake,

0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Nicky J. Mills. Everyone's in the studio together during this time. Noah,

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 1>not for every girl. NICKI bullied her way on Bedrock.

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Shout Shout the Dickie. She was like, no, y'all not

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna put out another single without me, like because every

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 1>girl was like something that we just did. Yeah, she's

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 1>not at every girl, right, No, yeah, that's yeah. Every

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 1>girl was something we did. And uh, I want to

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>say Hollywood somewhere or somewhere like up there sunset, you

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>know them like the hotel that got a studio in

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the hotel I forgot. It's one of them sexy shi

0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:21.799
<v Speaker 1>its like on the on the whatever. Long story short,

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 1>we did it in there, and yeah, we was all

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>in there together. We was all in there together when

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:31.439
<v Speaker 1>we did Bedrock. Uh, when we did Bedrock, Lloyd wasn't

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 1>on that. The Marion was on it when we first

0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 1>when we first did it, and they got leaked and

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I think uh, you know, way ain't on hear and

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 1>fuck with no leaks, So when they got leaked, like

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>they was trying to like still use the record. But

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that's why when the final record came out, it was

0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:50.440
<v Speaker 1>that it was I will say this man, Way ain't

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 1>don't get enough credit for a lot of ship, like

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.799
<v Speaker 1>with the whole Young Money ship, like we was when

0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you think about where we was at with it, Like

0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Drake was Drake from the Grassy and nick he was

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Nikki from the from the DVDs and the mixtapes and

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Gucci and all of that shit she was doing. And

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I was Me from the Smack DVDs and mixtapes and

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>all of that. But Wayne was Wayne. He was on

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the verge of it was right before Lollipopkin. He was

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>on the verge of becoming Wayne Wayne. When he became

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Wayne Wayne, a million records sol first week called at three,

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 1>he took everybody, you know what I'm saying, even if

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 1>before it was artist bus and we all had different buses,

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it was fucking y'allg just on my bus, you know

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:34.840
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And I give him a lot of

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:36.319
<v Speaker 1>credit for that because he didn't have to put us

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:39.120
<v Speaker 1>on the stage with him at the height of his shit.

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I can't think of too

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 1>many artists at that time of his like level that

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 1>was doing the shit that he did for us. Was

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 1>there ever anyone that you knew that almost signed with

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Young Money that didn't end up working out? That would

0:52:56.160 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>have been crazy? Uh? Damn. I don't know. I don't know.

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't really, I can't really it was, it was,

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:08.439
<v Speaker 1>It was a few I remember Mario and I thought

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:10.319
<v Speaker 1>that was gonna be cool, the whole of Marion thing.

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened with that. I remember Lloyd Lloyd, Uh,

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It was. You know, people was probably

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 1>hitting Wayne up like crazy. I remember one day I

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>was with Wayne and he was like, yo, boys just

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 1>hit me up about getting with young Wayne was He

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 1>was like Norri Nori Jeger, this is like, this is

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.879
<v Speaker 1>like a while, This is like when Nori was doing

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 1>regaetone kind of probably around that time. He was not

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 1>he was still booming. He was still booming. Yeah, probably

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:39.839
<v Speaker 1>nothing Raggaeton one of them and shout out to Norri

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:45.439
<v Speaker 1>man like Noorri one of them people. Uh, I don't

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>really speak to him too much. But when I speak

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 1>to him, he always tell me about myself. He always always,

0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and I used to I used to go back and

0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 1>forth with him, you know, because we probably smoking and

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>drinking and it's probably coming across like yo, And I

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 1>had to realize, like Yo, I used to listen to

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:12.600
<v Speaker 1>this man when I was in the ninth, tenth grade,

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>eleventh grade, you know what I'm saying. I used to

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.800
<v Speaker 1>ride to school and listen to the War reporting and

0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>ri E And first time I heard FAB was on

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 1>a clue freestyle with Norri on air. Oh wow, wrapping

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 1>over money, power respect. So when I talk to people

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 1>like that, it's not really about rap no more. It's

0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:36.239
<v Speaker 1>like I don't really care about doing a song with you,

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:41.439
<v Speaker 1>like I ain't really even tripping on doing a drink

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Champs interview. Hey, I'm sure, and I'm gonna tell you why,

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Because I feel like I get more from you answering

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the phone, answering the text message you know what I'm saying,

0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 1>or if I'm in town, like yo, I'm here, I

0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:57.080
<v Speaker 1>bet link up, let's link up. I get more out

0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 1>of that than trying to get some publicity or market

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 1>something or like nah, you interviewed this one. I need

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to come promote. It's like, nah, man, just answer, you

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And it's like that with a

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, like shout out to young Guru. You

0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:14.280
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I sometimes I just hit Guru

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:16.320
<v Speaker 1>like yo, just checking in, just saying what's up. You know.

0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Like once I was in the studio with him and

0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:19.960
<v Speaker 1>kicked it with him and he started telling me your mills,

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.040
<v Speaker 1>it'd be crazy if you take your battle and turn

0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:25.840
<v Speaker 1>it into an NFT. And it's like and I'm sitting

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:30.000
<v Speaker 1>there like, Yo, this is jay Z's engineer. Like he

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 1>giving me game right in his crib, giving me game.

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Open his door to me. You know what I'm saying.

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>So I value shit like that more than Yo, Let's

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:41.399
<v Speaker 1>do some music. It's like, man, I've been doing music

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>for twenty years. Man, would you do battling anymore? I

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 1>probably would, but not at this present moment. Like I

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of bag. Oh the bag gotta be stupid, right,

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:54.880
<v Speaker 1>The bag was right when I came back. So you

0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. The bag was right when I

0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:58.400
<v Speaker 1>came back. But there's so much money in the battle

0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>rap shit man, good trans This is a good journalist, Jay,

0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 1>a good transition. I was watching, Uh was it summer

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 1>madness the overy day. You don't you don't keep up

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:10.439
<v Speaker 1>with the battle the battle culture. Man. I I used

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to and it just became like it just became a lot.

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just killing uh battle culture. Yeah, shout out the smack,

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Shout out the U R l H. Shout the caffeine.

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Shout the caffeine, shout the Uh. I saw the geechee

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Gotti caliculture, Uh moove read shout to Kashan Kishan battle

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh chess. Easy see these as people and I noticed this.

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I know this with my platform and with my new

0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:46.879
<v Speaker 1>platform and ship like that. When you speak about these

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 1>type of things, you gotta highlight ship. You can't just

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.200
<v Speaker 1>glaze over ship. Because I was one of those battle

0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 1>rappers before that. A nigga only shout out the headliner

0:56:57.440 --> 0:57:00.319
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, shout out the mook and this this like Nah,

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 1>it was a lot of other niggas up there. I

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:04.240
<v Speaker 1>got busy that day. It's a lot of other niggas

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that went to work that day. You know what I'm saying.

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:07.279
<v Speaker 1>They was up there trying to get a back end

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:09.239
<v Speaker 1>hoping the nigga. Don't bump them, hoping the nigga, you

0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:11.879
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So I still try to keep

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 1>keep keep myself tapped in with that culture. That's why

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>when you asking me what I still battle, it's like

0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:18.640
<v Speaker 1>hell yeah, shout out the head Ice had Ice ain't

0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 1>no young young boy, but he fucking he a god

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 1>with the battle rap shit. That's another sport where father

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:28.479
<v Speaker 1>time don't catch up with you. In battle rap, father

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 1>time don't catch up with you and rap. I just

0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:33.840
<v Speaker 1>watched Nas want a Grammy. I was with Nori in

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Miami when Nas want to Grammy and he was facetiing.

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 1>He was hitting him like yo, you did that for queens,

0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 1>And like I was with Nori speak like just how

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:44.720
<v Speaker 1>everything just come full circle? You know what I'm saying.

0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like yo, I was. I was with him when

0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:50.439
<v Speaker 1>he faced timed Nas like yo, you just like it's

0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:53.480
<v Speaker 1>just moments like that for me. Now it's past music.

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 1>It's past trying to create a musical moment like I can't.

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hit two chains and be like yo,

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I need a verse like you did a verse for

0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:06.280
<v Speaker 1>me when you was charging one hundred thousand. All I

0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 1>want for my birthday is a big bully girl Mills,

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 1>just send it. You ain't never got it. You ain't

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:16.120
<v Speaker 1>never got it. It's certain people that did shit for me, uh,

0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 1>when I was coming up in my music career, throughout

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>my music career, when I might have been at a

0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:24.880
<v Speaker 1>downtime and you know, I needed I needed some help

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:28.320
<v Speaker 1>with some shit. It's a lot of people that might

0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 1>have helped me with things. And right now people might

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:32.160
<v Speaker 1>be like, Yo, why you don't hit so and so

0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 1>for a feature? Why you don't hit this one for

0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 1>a feature? It's like, nah, because that person already did

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:42.160
<v Speaker 1>shit for me that I don't even give a fuck

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 1>about the feature. The other ship that they did was

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 1>more important. That shit meant more to me, Like now

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm more into some shit, like Yo, can I get

0:58:49.960 --> 0:58:52.480
<v Speaker 1>you for my show? How many minutes can I get

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you for for this segment I got for? You know

0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying that that don't mean more than me.

0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Fuck with me now and this new shit I'm doing

0:58:57.880 --> 0:59:00.120
<v Speaker 1>because I ain't gonna keep asking you for no And

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to keep it real, majority of the people that did

0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of shit for me in the industry did

0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:06.480
<v Speaker 1>it for free? I can't really tell. I could probably

0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 1>count on three fingers the times I paid for a feature.

0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Now look at now, I ain't gonna throw them out there, like,

0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:16.919
<v Speaker 1>come on, and who'd you pay for? You don't gotta

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>tell how much? Who'd you have to pay for? You

0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 1>want know somen crazy? They all from New York, So

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:25.480
<v Speaker 1>who'd you pay for? Because I wouldn't want to put

0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:27.960
<v Speaker 1>it out there. But I'm just saying people pay for features.

0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:30.200
<v Speaker 1>People do. But I'm just trying to show the love

0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:34.240
<v Speaker 1>that I've gotten from everyone that first came in the game.

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Threw ups and downs before Young Money? What young money?

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:39.800
<v Speaker 1>After Young money? My independence, like when I was just

0:59:39.840 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 1>a mixtape nigga with no with no nothing. I know

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:44.800
<v Speaker 1>you had mentioned that you and Vado might be doing

0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:46.960
<v Speaker 1>something like a project. Is that something that's still even

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:50.840
<v Speaker 1>on the table, Like yeah, uh, you know what it

0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:53.120
<v Speaker 1>is to drive me and Vado, we always go back

0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and forth like we're gonna do this, go do that,

0:59:55.120 --> 0:59:57.480
<v Speaker 1>never get around to it. So I don't know. But

0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Vias my boy, viz v He is like one of

1:00:02.160 --> 1:00:04.520
<v Speaker 1>my fucking best friends in life. Like I knew Vado

1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:06.960
<v Speaker 1>before we was both rappers. I think he was the

1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:10.200
<v Speaker 1>first guy, like I remember the Slime Ship was he was,

1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:14.080
<v Speaker 1>And we got that from Nori And we got that

1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 1>from Nori saying that ship in the video like yeah

1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:19.880
<v Speaker 1>it was and then yeah yeah, So we say that

1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:23.000
<v Speaker 1>we acknowledged that we from we from that era, We

1:00:23.120 --> 1:00:25.959
<v Speaker 1>from the era of like we was talking earlier about,

1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:29.040
<v Speaker 1>like Stretch Armstrong and you know, Cam and Joel's going

1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 1>up to Stretch arm Strong, a Major Figures going up

1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:34.640
<v Speaker 1>to Stretch Strong, shout out to shout out to Gilly

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<v Speaker 1>and shout out to the Major Figures. Man, I don't

1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't speak on a lot of this a lot,

1:00:39.480 --> 1:00:45.320
<v Speaker 1>but I remember when Major Figures was like the thing right,

1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was one of them kids. I used to

1:00:47.720 --> 1:00:51.480
<v Speaker 1>be listening to Stretch Armstrong on Sundays taping it, you know,

1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:55.160
<v Speaker 1>because I know when whoever come up here, they gonna rap,

1:00:55.280 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 1>whether it's Eminem and Royce, whether it's Royce byself. That's

1:00:58.840 --> 1:01:00.360
<v Speaker 1>how I found out, like, yo, this is name five

1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:03.440
<v Speaker 1>nine is nice because he you know, so I know this,

1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Gilly and them would come, they go up there, they mob,

1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:08.360
<v Speaker 1>they kill it, they flowing their spin and they got

1:01:08.400 --> 1:01:12.280
<v Speaker 1>this ship down. It's but one thing I always used

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<v Speaker 1>to notice is I know that this show is being

1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:18.800
<v Speaker 1>recorded in New York, so that means they came from

1:01:19.200 --> 1:01:22.640
<v Speaker 1>They come from a whole nother state. It's Nigga Royster

1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:25.480
<v Speaker 1>five nine, and they came from a whole number state

1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:28.680
<v Speaker 1>to come up here and just just get they ship

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<v Speaker 1>off at that time. To me, that's what I wanted

1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to do. It's like, I just want to go averywhere

1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and get my shit off. I want to wrap I

1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:40.880
<v Speaker 1>wanted you know what I'm saying. So it reverts right

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<v Speaker 1>back to the like, Yo, even if I wasn't making

1:01:44.200 --> 1:01:47.919
<v Speaker 1>no money off of rap, I probably still talk my ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you around? Uh young money? Cash money? When Gilly

1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:54.240
<v Speaker 1>was around? Was that prior to you? I was. I

1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:55.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't around for it. I was. That was before me.

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<v Speaker 1>That was before me. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy to think,

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<v Speaker 1>like the folklore of whether or not he helped Wayne write.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think Gilly wrote for Wayne.

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<v Speaker 1>But Wayne is the type of person if you're around

1:02:10.120 --> 1:02:12.240
<v Speaker 1>him and you nice, it ain't. I ain't gonna act

1:02:12.360 --> 1:02:14.360
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know you nice. It's like, Yo, I

1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:17.360
<v Speaker 1>got some shit y'all tell me how you think this sound.

1:02:17.840 --> 1:02:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And if you be like, ain't I think on the

1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:22.800
<v Speaker 1>other part, you could have said that ship like I'd

1:02:22.840 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 1>be like, a good idea, yeah, good good look, A

1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:29.480
<v Speaker 1>good look, and I appreciate that. I bet there's probably

1:02:29.520 --> 1:02:31.880
<v Speaker 1>some shit like that you wrote for me. You you

1:02:32.280 --> 1:02:35.200
<v Speaker 1>write for me because you might not even be as

1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:38.160
<v Speaker 1>nice as me. You right for me. And I'm not

1:02:38.240 --> 1:02:40.320
<v Speaker 1>saying like the Gilly and Wayne, but I'm just saying

1:02:40.360 --> 1:02:42.760
<v Speaker 1>like I'm one of them people, my boys, sitting right

1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:44.520
<v Speaker 1>there to them, and many times like once we done

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<v Speaker 1>got comfortable enough to the point where he don't look

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<v Speaker 1>at me like, oh that's big, bro, I can't tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to tell that nigga that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Once it got to the point we could be like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>you said this, yeah you can do it and now,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it to get to a point where he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I think, well, maybe you probably could have

1:03:06.840 --> 1:03:10.840
<v Speaker 1>said like, instead of saying this it's cool, does that

1:03:10.960 --> 1:03:12.720
<v Speaker 1>mean you're right for me? I just sat up here

1:03:12.720 --> 1:03:15.960
<v Speaker 1>and told you on bedrock the end was the beginning.

1:03:16.040 --> 1:03:19.920
<v Speaker 1>The beginning was the end. Wayne told me amails it

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<v Speaker 1>come out the booth real quick. I think you should

1:03:22.200 --> 1:03:26.760
<v Speaker 1>start it off she ain't and when she missed, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's better. And then leave the other part for the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean Wayne? Right for me? Right right right?

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<v Speaker 1>It's my man, it's my boy. We're working on the

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<v Speaker 1>same product. You know what I'm saying that, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I look at it. That's just me, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Other people might look at it like now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't be wanting nobody to help me with nothing cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's me and it's all right. Let's just say at

1:03:52.840 --> 1:03:56.240
<v Speaker 1>that time it's me, It's gotta gutta, it's Tiger, it's Wayne,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Drake, is MacMahon, is Nikki. Before we even go

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<v Speaker 1>into booth, we're gonna say our verse for everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>a circle. He'll turn that, turn that down real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>All I got everybody like this. I don't think we

1:04:15.360 --> 1:04:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the only crew that used to function like that. I

1:04:17.960 --> 1:04:20.360
<v Speaker 1>think before you go into booth, CAM wanted to hear

1:04:20.400 --> 1:04:23.960
<v Speaker 1>your shit too, and Cam gonna be brutally honest and

1:04:24.000 --> 1:04:27.640
<v Speaker 1>way ain't gonna be. It was times some people might

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<v Speaker 1>not make it to a song. It was songs I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make it too, because Wayne might hear that shit

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<v Speaker 1>and be like nah nah, or he might get to

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<v Speaker 1>the studio and we already don't put verses on shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Before he got there, he planned back listen to it,

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<v Speaker 1>be like oh oh nah, no, gotta gotta kill you

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<v Speaker 1>on that one. Take that verse off. Fuck. I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. What at that point, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're probably about to do eight more records tonight. You're

1:04:55.400 --> 1:04:57.480
<v Speaker 1>not thinking You're not thinking about it like that when

1:04:57.520 --> 1:04:59.720
<v Speaker 1>you in that crew mode and you and that it's

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<v Speaker 1>my niggas were bombing on We just bombing on shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, You're not thinking like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think TD he wasn't thinking like that. Q

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<v Speaker 1>ain't in there with Abs Soul and Kendrick and all

1:05:10.600 --> 1:05:13.280
<v Speaker 1>of them when they was doing eight things like you're

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<v Speaker 1>just bombing on shit. You're just bombing on shit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a fair point with the new thing. You're

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<v Speaker 1>a part of it. You can't speak on all the

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<v Speaker 1>way yet, right. That's shout out to my partners man

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<v Speaker 1>some some sort of art like what made you? I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I want to pivot out of doing the music

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<v Speaker 1>shit more and doing the video shit and then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>kind of being more of a personality. Man, I'm about

1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:47.280
<v Speaker 1>to sound crazy right now. Uh well I could be.

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<v Speaker 1>And my boy, my boy shouts at my boy Linux.

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<v Speaker 1>If anybody really been following me, they know, uh. In

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, when the whole quarantine shit started, we started

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast, and my boy right there, we started a

1:05:58.760 --> 1:06:02.960
<v Speaker 1>podcast called the Loud Opinions Podcast. Right I would pull

1:06:03.040 --> 1:06:06.880
<v Speaker 1>up at his crib. We invested in some lights, some speakers,

1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:11.040
<v Speaker 1>some mics. I got laptop with garage bend. Let's get

1:06:11.080 --> 1:06:13.720
<v Speaker 1>a mixer. Let's figure out how the inputs and how

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<v Speaker 1>to do this shit. All right, that work set up

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<v Speaker 1>my Osmo pocket right here. You got an iPhone eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>I got an iPhone XL. Let's order some Amazon tripods.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking I think this is how it worked. I film

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<v Speaker 1>you from this angle. I'm gonna film me from this angle,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna film both of us on this angle.

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<v Speaker 1>Go home, get on YouTube, learn how to fucking edit

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<v Speaker 1>multi caam right right right, so now I'm editing our shit.

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<v Speaker 1>We ain't getting no views like that. You go pull

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<v Speaker 1>it up right now, real shit, I ain't gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>You can pull it up right now. I ain't getting

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<v Speaker 1>no views like that, but we're doing it. Probably did

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<v Speaker 1>about fourteen, fifteen, twelve, twelve twelve, probably like fourteen. We

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<v Speaker 1>do like fourteen episodes, right, So we kind of had

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<v Speaker 1>a point like, yo, what are we doing? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying? Is this shit working? Is it worth it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do it makes sense? We fell back off doing it.

1:07:12.320 --> 1:07:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I put out wood paying the walls. So when I

1:07:14.760 --> 1:07:18.240
<v Speaker 1>put out wood paying the walls, by now we're shooting videos.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling him, like, bro, I know angles I got

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<v Speaker 1>the camera to the point where he went and bought

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<v Speaker 1>a camera. Bro, let me get nice to shooting videos

1:07:25.400 --> 1:07:27.720
<v Speaker 1>by shooting your videos. He was paying a dude to

1:07:27.760 --> 1:07:29.360
<v Speaker 1>shoot the video. You don't gotta pay me nothing. I'm

1:07:29.400 --> 1:07:31.760
<v Speaker 1>your boy. But when I need a video done, you

1:07:31.800 --> 1:07:35.280
<v Speaker 1>could I'll show you what I know and in return

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<v Speaker 1>we could just bang out. So we're doing that with

1:07:37.080 --> 1:07:39.440
<v Speaker 1>shooting videos and shit. So now from the podcast, I

1:07:39.520 --> 1:07:43.400
<v Speaker 1>learned how to edit. That taught me how to edit

1:07:43.480 --> 1:07:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the videos. So now I'm shooting the videos, I'm editing

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<v Speaker 1>the videos. I do woodpaying the walls. I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>let me try some shit. I'm just trying shit, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, trying to get more traction with

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<v Speaker 1>the project. I'm like, let me do like a little documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>So I set the tripod up in the studio, filmed

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<v Speaker 1>myself talking, I take pictures video, also make a little documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>The dude I later found out the dude who came

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<v Speaker 1>to me with the opportunity for the job shout out

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<v Speaker 1>with my boy Harrison. He came to me with the

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<v Speaker 1>situation and I thought it was fake. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was fake, and I was like, Yo, just tell me

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<v Speaker 1>how much y'all could pay me for what y'all need

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<v Speaker 1>me to do, you know what I'm saying. So he

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<v Speaker 1>told me, and I'm like, all right, because you gotta remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't got no manager, I don't got no agent,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't got no nothing. I just happened to check

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<v Speaker 1>the email one day and it was like, Yo, we

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<v Speaker 1>want you to do this right, Let me just reply

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<v Speaker 1>to this shit. So I replied to it, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna just fast forward to the point of what made

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<v Speaker 1>me want a transition. He was like, Yo, he's twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four years old. So I had to ask him like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>what made you think that this was the fun? Made

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<v Speaker 1>you come to me? You know what I'm saying, and

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<v Speaker 1>think that I could even do this shit. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have no history in doing this shit or nothing. What

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<v Speaker 1>made you? And he was like, Yo, I saw your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the podcast episodes, and I watched your documentary,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, And then from there I went and looked

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<v Speaker 1>at your battles and all of that. So I'm like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>if we wouldn't have never been doing the podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't just still have that there for you to

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<v Speaker 1>go look at fifteen episodes of personality and range and

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<v Speaker 1>different conversations and laughing and joking and all of this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Who might have had an opportunity? I might not have

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<v Speaker 1>had the opportunity if I never would have did that

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<v Speaker 1>documentary that at the end when the credits rolled, it's say, directed,

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<v Speaker 1>shot and edited by Jarvis J. Mills. Mills, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have came to me and gave me equity and made

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<v Speaker 1>me an executive producer and brought me in a writer's

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<v Speaker 1>room for some sure, but you already know I could

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<v Speaker 1>do this shit. So when I'm like, Yo, this ship

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<v Speaker 1>is too good, to be true. They like, Nah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is this is destined for you. This is

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<v Speaker 1>perfect for you, man, you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you it's like, Yo, God brought this to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'd be like, can't nobody be like if

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't for me, if it wasn't for you, what

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't got nothing to do with this? I would have.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have. I don't even have a team of people.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta split my ship with now, which is even better.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, you know what I'm saying. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So with that, it's like, Yo, and I

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<v Speaker 1>could get up here and be like, when you asked me,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to? But you're still baddle again. Fuck though,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to fucking battle nigga, I'm over. It's like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that ship. I would probably still battle for free,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, because it's not It was

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<v Speaker 1>never about them, And people gonna see that, Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see it. They gonna see that now with this

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<v Speaker 1>this era of j Mills, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm engaged. I'm fucking playing a wedding, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, I appreciate that. Man. So I'm married. Planning

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding is the least fun part about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun to you know what I'm saying. It's fun

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<v Speaker 1>to me because it's some news and you gotta figure

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<v Speaker 1>out who to invite, who not to invite. Okay, how many?

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<v Speaker 1>How much is that? Let's talk? How much is it

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<v Speaker 1>per plate? No? No, we're gonna have to cut about

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<v Speaker 1>fifty motherfuckers. This is the problem. This is the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>My fiance, she's gonna like this part of the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna talk about this wedding ship too, right, Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>Why people just think that they're gonna be invited to

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<v Speaker 1>your wedding? I don't know what. At what point in

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<v Speaker 1>life did this start with people just tell you, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because at your wedding. I'm a nah, you might not

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<v Speaker 1>even be at the wedding. What are you talking? I

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<v Speaker 1>had about eighty five people on my wedding. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wanted I gotta keep it under a hundred vaccinated man,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you want the bunk. I hit the blunt. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not vaccinated, but you're telling me that after I

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<v Speaker 1>hit the bunt the way he said it. It was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>are you vaccinated, because I cool you can hit it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, oh, by the way, I'm not vaccinated. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna tell you enjoy that Corona. I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell you Jesus, I get tested. I get tested. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get tested every week, right, and my daughter kids,

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<v Speaker 1>they get tested at school. All of that with that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I heard and I heard uh in like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's New York on New Jersey. I

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<v Speaker 1>heard they're not testing the kids. They only testing, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the teachers. I could be wrong, I'm just talking. I

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<v Speaker 1>could be wrong, but I would be real nervous if

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<v Speaker 1>the kids weren't getting tested because kids is like they

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<v Speaker 1>real careless and they just when that. Plus, you won't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if they have it, because most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>if a kid has coronavirus, they don't They're usually asymptomatic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true, so you might not know. You be like

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<v Speaker 1>kicking it with with your kids, taking them over to

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<v Speaker 1>Grandma Grandpa's house. Grandma and Grandpa died. Yo, you you

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<v Speaker 1>know you know what? You know what? I was just

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<v Speaker 1>telling me about the song and feeling like mellow shit, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's so crazy like I always tell you, like anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who know me, no, Carmelo Anthony my favorite basketball player.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm not saying he's the best. He's your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite favorite, right of course. So been following him since

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<v Speaker 1>high school. So I always used to like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like run my career like parallel to Mellow or some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always used to sise to be like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's so crazy. The only thing I'm missing

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<v Speaker 1>is like a solo, major album that has done all

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<v Speaker 1>of these miraculous numbies that. But it's like, what damn

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<v Speaker 1>is that for me? Or is that for argument sake

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<v Speaker 1>of the fans or argument sake of your friends and

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<v Speaker 1>people that because for me, I did way more than

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I would. When I step back and I

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<v Speaker 1>look at awards and plaques and I look at shit

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and how long I've been doing this shit?

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<v Speaker 1>And people come and go. People don't last twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Like I'll be trying to

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<v Speaker 1>tell people like, bro, I was a kid. I came

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<v Speaker 1>in this like I got my first deal at seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a fucking kid rapper kind of you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. The book to do the battle shit

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<v Speaker 1>and do it and do all that. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you get to this point, man, you

1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:32.280
<v Speaker 1>be grateful for a lot of shit. You don't look

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<v Speaker 1>down on nothing. You You try to look at what's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the fucking next move, what's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>next what's gonna be the next uh, the next thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I could be a part of. On some j

1:14:42.360 --> 1:14:47.000
<v Speaker 1>mil's branding myself shit, not like I'm a rapper. It's like, nah,

1:14:47.040 --> 1:14:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I rap, you know what I'm saying, I fucking I rap,

1:14:53.040 --> 1:14:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I direct, I produce, I write, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So everything bringing it back to the to the mellow shit,

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<v Speaker 1>it all. Everything with me is like always felt like

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<v Speaker 1>the underdogs. I always felt like I had to do more,

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<v Speaker 1>Always felt like I had to put out more freestyles.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta put out more mixtapes, I gotta I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>post more tweets, I gotta, I gotta beat because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't get lost in shit. And in trying to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like niggas a overlook all the shit you did,

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<v Speaker 1>So I make you step back and it'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on what you did, what you did? And then

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<v Speaker 1>when I had my downtime. That's why I said to them, Bars,

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling you, it's like yo, I could see

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<v Speaker 1>how Mellow could feel like damn. So it's always me.

1:15:40.479 --> 1:15:43.599
<v Speaker 1>So I'm always the problem. All right, Cool, I'll take

1:15:43.680 --> 1:15:46.599
<v Speaker 1>that last time I would say, I said, bro, anything

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<v Speaker 1>that ever happened in my career, I take the blame

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I can't blame nobody else. I'll take the

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<v Speaker 1>blame before I blame somebody else, because I sleep better

1:15:53.800 --> 1:15:55.479
<v Speaker 1>like that. You can rewind to the last interview I

1:15:55.520 --> 1:15:59.000
<v Speaker 1>said the same thing. Mello took the blame for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of shit that wasn't as blame. You know, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>his fault, but he still took the blame for it.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was out the NBA, niggas ragged him and

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga over he can't buy my body. He came back Portland,

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<v Speaker 1>did his thing. Yeah, now it was oh, Mellow, Mellow, Melo, Mello,

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<v Speaker 1>melt don't call now. I be prepared for that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's why I always say, Man, you be in

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<v Speaker 1>this ship for as long as I've been in it,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have some ups and downs. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. But it's about how do you handle the

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<v Speaker 1>ups and downs? How do you deal with people that

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<v Speaker 1>when you came back down, they showed you what it

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<v Speaker 1>really was. That's what I'm saying. You gotta you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>learn that ship, man, Like, that's some ship you gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to learn that thinking everybody your friend, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>your homie. If I thought everybody was my homie, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was my friend, I would go sit and do this

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<v Speaker 1>with everybody. I know everybody that's fair, I know him,

1:16:52.240 --> 1:16:54.519
<v Speaker 1>I know what they're doing. I know when they shows

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<v Speaker 1>come on. And there's plenty times that you could have

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<v Speaker 1>had me come sit down, listen to me talk. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, there was plenty of times

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<v Speaker 1>where a nigga could have Are you gonna do the podcast? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know with the new situation that might be had,

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<v Speaker 1>what it makes sense for you to try to bring

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast back. I was thinking about bringing the podcast back.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're not telling me like I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>no no other ship like that. So that's just the

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<v Speaker 1>beauty of it. Like when I was looking at the contract,

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<v Speaker 1>it's son that I already was doing before this. So

1:17:26.680 --> 1:17:28.320
<v Speaker 1>it's son that was already emotion you can pull it

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<v Speaker 1>up and see that I was doing it, so it's

1:17:29.720 --> 1:17:32.960
<v Speaker 1>not like I took a new job. Right. Well, we

1:17:33.040 --> 1:17:35.240
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see what it's gonna be. Hopefully we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be announcing it soon the album is out, we're gonna

1:17:38.760 --> 1:17:40.599
<v Speaker 1>have you what have you come back in like six

1:17:40.720 --> 1:17:45.080
<v Speaker 1>months whenever you announced this. I'm just waiting for them.

1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:47.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm just waiting for for the announcement and the little

1:17:47.920 --> 1:17:54.960
<v Speaker 1>press release thing and then I'm right back this guy

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<v Speaker 1>judge and host Netflix. Really, Fred, I'm just kidding shout

1:18:03.360 --> 1:18:06.240
<v Speaker 1>to people's absolutely zero inside information. So if I guess

1:18:06.280 --> 1:18:09.519
<v Speaker 1>that correctly, it was not your fault. I'm not on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no not Netflix. I'm not on none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's gonna be on HBO Max. Uh anyway, appreciate you, man. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look j Mills, go get the album. Don't call now,

1:18:20.400 --> 1:18:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and the freestyle's out, so go watch the freestyle. Oh yeah,

1:18:22.680 --> 1:18:25.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm nice, man, Come on, I'm always gonna be nice.

1:18:25.600 --> 1:18:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm always gonna be always. You can't lose. That is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Boom