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Speaker 1: Boulet Cap Podcast special guests in here my guy J Mills.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, sir, always Always. First episode was legendary. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I got in a lot of trouble for some shit

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Speaker 1: that I didn't even say, but I guess I said

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Speaker 1: it and it got spun a different way. I had

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Speaker 1: some media training since, Like, June, what did you get

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Speaker 1: in trouble for saying I'm not gonna say it because

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Speaker 1: I might get in trouble again, did you? Well? You

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Speaker 1: talked about a lot that media training right there, boy,

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Speaker 1: I'm good you talked about a lot. Nah, you know,

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Speaker 1: just the whole when I when we was having a

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Speaker 1: rap albums discussion and we were talking about like the

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Speaker 1: j and the Kanye and the writing stuff. If we're

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Speaker 1: gonna say Quentin Miller did this for so and so,

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Speaker 1: then why people don't say this for this not I

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Speaker 1: say it, Like I'm smart enough to know Kanye West

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Speaker 1: doesn't right for jay Z. We're all smart enough to

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Speaker 1: know that. But like, once the interview came out, I looked,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, I said a lot of

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Speaker 1: shit in that interview. I put a lot of put

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Speaker 1: a lot of respect on people names in that interview.

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Speaker 1: But that wasn't the that wasn't the focal point. That's

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Speaker 1: not that's not what we're gonna get. We're gonna you

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Speaker 1: said basically, in metaphorical terms, you basically said this person

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Speaker 1: rights for this person. So I had to kind of

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Speaker 1: just eat that. I ain't jump in the comments and

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Speaker 1: go back and forth. He I was like, I get it.

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Speaker 1: No bite back from any of the young money stuff

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Speaker 1: you shared. Nah nah nah. I did feel like I

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Speaker 1: did feel like Wayne had kind of like took a

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Speaker 1: shot at me when he said, uh I could uh

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Speaker 1: I could flip a J Mills to a fucking Meek Meal.

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Speaker 1: When I first heard it, I was like, hold on,

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Speaker 1: what that's about. But then I thought about it, I

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Speaker 1: was like, nah, I know Wayne, that's not it's not that,

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Speaker 1: it's not really I didn't hear this. I didn't hear that.

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Speaker 1: Bar what was this one of his new verses? I

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Speaker 1: think it was on his latest Journey put out. But

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Speaker 1: then I'm smart enough to know Wayne, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: when I thought about it, it is like, even if

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Speaker 1: that is what he said, I'm not mad at that,

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Speaker 1: Like because when you met me at I was like

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Speaker 1: a J Mils and you took me and took me

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Speaker 1: to another level. M so even, and I'm gonna keep

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Speaker 1: it real even if Wayne was to dis me. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna keep it real just where I'm at in my

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Speaker 1: life right now, and being like respectful on some ship

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Speaker 1: like you gave me like a platform, you like kind

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Speaker 1: of help rebrand me. I don't even think I would.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think I would go back at him.

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Speaker 1: That's how to respect for him. I just would be like,

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Speaker 1: h you got that off. It was good light of

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Speaker 1: blown up. Man. It's not like you hate me. It's

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Speaker 1: not like you ain't got no love for me no more.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So where I feed into

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Speaker 1: it like that, I still speak to him. I just

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Speaker 1: uh spoke to Mac though. They shot out to Mac

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Speaker 1: Man shout the gutta gotta good. Wayne's birthday was Yeah, happy, happy, belated, happy,

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Speaker 1: belated dawayne man. No another another lap around the sun.

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Speaker 1: Always good to see somebody make it to another year.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well there it is. Yeah. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, I wonder how this is gonna

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Speaker 1: some of the stories you shared with some man you

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Speaker 1: wanted us to remember when I hit you when you

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Speaker 1: announced you was leaving the station, I was like, yo, bro,

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Speaker 1: did I get you in any trouble with the interview?

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Speaker 1: Like I had to hit him. I was like, yo,

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Speaker 1: did I say anything that got you in trouble at

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Speaker 1: the station? He was like, nah, I got some whole

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Speaker 1: other shit in the works right now. I don't even

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Speaker 1: worry about it. I was like, all right, I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm back on the station. That let me go, except

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Speaker 1: for I'm doing it in my termore. Man, congratulations on that, man,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on that. Yeah. No, no, no, that was just

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Speaker 1: you know, some corporate budget cut bullshit. You know that happens.

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Speaker 1: It happens, man, in any business. It happens entertainment specifically

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Speaker 1: radio specifically, everyone's you know, cutting budgets. How you feel

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Speaker 1: about being back on on the station. I mean it's cool.

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Speaker 1: You know, I launched the show and then they picked

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Speaker 1: it up as an affiliate. So it's dope to be

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Speaker 1: able to be like, hey, well, like I am on

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Speaker 1: the station, but I don't work for them. So I'm

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Speaker 1: on every night, but I don't work for them. So

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Speaker 1: the good parts about being on the station are there.

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Speaker 1: Some of the cool relationships I still have I mean

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Speaker 1: I never lost any relationships at the station. Just now,

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Speaker 1: I kind of the shit that I don't like to

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Speaker 1: do or that I wouldn't like about dealing with, you know,

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Speaker 1: having like all staff meetings and blogging and shit and

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Speaker 1: like stuff I don't want to do. I don't have

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Speaker 1: to do any of it. I just do me. So

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Speaker 1: you kind of just got your own lane. You can

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Speaker 1: just rock lily. Yeah, I'm on the shows all over

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Speaker 1: the country. So I do one show every day and

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Speaker 1: it runs in a bunch of markets all over the country.

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Speaker 1: So did you have that same leverage your last lap

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Speaker 1: at the station now, Because when I the last time

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Speaker 1: I worked at the station, you know, I moved from

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Speaker 1: I was in Tampa and then I went Tampa to

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Speaker 1: LA and a little pit stop in Phoenix. Nah, No,

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Speaker 1: of course not. No. I mean, you know, they gave

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Speaker 1: me a great opportunity and coming to LA changing my life,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, but like I

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Speaker 1: was already thinking, like when I was in the pandemic

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Speaker 1: and I was able to like not have to go

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Speaker 1: to the radio station every day and we were voicing

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Speaker 1: our show from home because everything was shut down. It

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Speaker 1: gave me so much flexibility to like get so much

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Speaker 1: other money. And yeah, and and and congrats on the

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Speaker 1: on the on the situation. Man, yeah, so you know

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Speaker 1: it's just it was already something I wanted to do,

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Speaker 1: so it worked out. Man, and doc Winner. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to doc docs a real one. AO is a real one.

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Speaker 1: You know. They didn't let me go because they wanted

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Speaker 1: too clearly they brought me back, so you know, shouted

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Speaker 1: what was good with the with the with the artists

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Speaker 1: you're working with? Man, Oh yeah, yeah, you know, we

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Speaker 1: got a little label that we're we have ready set

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Speaker 1: little label. I mean it's little right now, but we

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Speaker 1: just put a record out that's doing well with T

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Speaker 1: Pain feature as alexis feature in T Pain. So yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: were working you want to you want to know some

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Speaker 1: funny ship. I'm gonna just let y'all know how good

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Speaker 1: I am. Right, You see how I just went into

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Speaker 1: journalists j mode real quick. I just like I just

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Speaker 1: started interviewing him. He doesn't even realize that this whole

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Speaker 1: interview I've been interviewing him. Just have some journalists stuff

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Speaker 1: coming down the pipeline. Oh man. I just been in

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Speaker 1: some media training since June and people have been telling

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Speaker 1: me how to work this little media thing. So why'd

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Speaker 1: you get media training because of our interview? Definitely They're like, yo, definitely,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what happened. I went to Miami.

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Speaker 1: I went to Miami right. I was out there for

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Speaker 1: my boy birthday and I was kicking. I was actually

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Speaker 1: out there for Bido birthday shot at the bad I

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Speaker 1: was out there for his birthday and we pulled up

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Speaker 1: on Norri. Anytime I'm in Miami, I always pull up

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Speaker 1: on NORRII kick it with him, chop it up with him.

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Speaker 1: Never really take pictures, post videos and shit like that.

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Speaker 1: Just kick it with them. Same thing I was saying

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Speaker 1: with you, like I've known you for years and I

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Speaker 1: never sent you a clean version of no records because

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Speaker 1: my relationship ain't like he can you play this on

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Speaker 1: the radio? Can the radio? And Noori was like, you

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Speaker 1: know what happened at the boutlet, Kevin. It was a

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Speaker 1: great interview. He said, you just didn't learn how to

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Speaker 1: create your own clickbait yet. He said, when you learn

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Speaker 1: how to create your own clickbait, you're gonna be a

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Speaker 1: beast with this shit. He said, you give them too much.

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Speaker 1: You don't give them a chance to ask you nothing said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, you're right. And then when I, you know,

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Speaker 1: got this new situation, I had to learn how to

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Speaker 1: like shut the fuck up because I'm working with other

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Speaker 1: people and I'm in a writer's room and it's like,

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Speaker 1: so I'm bringing ideas, but it's like four or five

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Speaker 1: other people with ideas. So you got to learn how

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Speaker 1: to get your shit off. Get your shit off quick,

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Speaker 1: shut the fuck up, and then kickback. So I would

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Speaker 1: just wanted to interview you real quick. Wait, so what

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Speaker 1: do you so? Can you talk about? Can you talk

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Speaker 1: about anything yet? Yeah, it's it's just some media, some

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Speaker 1: media shit, a new show. It's a upstart show. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't want to say that much,

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Speaker 1: but it's an upstart show, some new shit, something that

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Speaker 1: never been done before. So it's not like I can't

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Speaker 1: hit Gilly, I couldn't hit. If I wanted to hit

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Speaker 1: Joe Button, I couldn't If I wanted to hit you.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be gonna be a podcast or TV shop.

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Speaker 1: It's a show, you know what I'm saying. It's not

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Speaker 1: a reality show. I'm not going on the reality show

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Speaker 1: or nothing. It's like, are you hosting the White Rapper

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Speaker 1: shows Resurrection, I'm hosting, but I'm not. I'm not doing

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Speaker 1: those ship like it's sign that never been done. It's

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Speaker 1: some I'm signed. I'm excited to do. I'm excited for

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Speaker 1: But I'm excited. It's some dope shit. Man, it's some

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Speaker 1: dope shit. I'm excited to be able to do something

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Speaker 1: that's not so I don't have to be like when

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Speaker 1: we was talking about the Nods ship. Nads don't really

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Speaker 1: have to put out no music right now, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But the fact that he is, let

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Speaker 1: you know, love his ship, yeah, I mean I love it.

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Speaker 1: He's doing it for the money. Both King's diseases are.

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Speaker 1: I actually think this one is much better than they both.

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Speaker 1: They both dope. They both classic, man, and it just

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Speaker 1: feel good in the way. In that way. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about a clap. I mean, that's that's simply they're

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Speaker 1: both really fucking good in their own way and that way.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to get up here and

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Speaker 1: start comparing this album to this album, because that's how

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Speaker 1: you get in trouble, throwing that sea word around. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see shout out to hit Boy, that's

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Speaker 1: my brother man, shout out the hit Boy, Shout out

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Speaker 1: to hit Boy him. Hit Boy and NAS got a

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Speaker 1: real got a. Their dynamic is insane dynamic. It's great.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is is like hit Boy is a

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Speaker 1: West Coast guy, but he'd be getting in that bag

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Speaker 1: man on that on he's Yeah, he's a go. I

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Speaker 1: think hit Boys like one of the grades of all time.

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Speaker 1: His range is insane, the type of shit he could do, definitely, definitely.

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Speaker 1: I got a new project I called Don't Call Now.

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Speaker 1: I pulled up players some joints early before it came out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me know you was fucking with that. That that

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Speaker 1: made me feel why is that title important? I kind

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Speaker 1: of started recording Don't Call Now, I'll probably say before

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Speaker 1: the summer. Yeah, but I kind of got caught up

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Speaker 1: I think Gucci just came out disrespectful as fuck. We've

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00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: never seen that. Like, Gucci literally came out to me,

423
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 1: I killed you man, Like, what the fuck is going

424
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: on here? GEEZI record for Record, and I love Gucci,

425
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 1: And I know that in certain circles, most circles Gucci. No,

426
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 1: it could be Gucci, but I think in the versus

427
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 1: spectrum GIZI Washington. With that being said, it was close

428
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: because of the disrespect. We've never seen that disrespect before.

429
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 1: That was crazy. But Fat Joe Joe Rule, I'm a

430
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: huge Fat Joe fan. I think he's one of the

431
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,239
Speaker 1: most slept on artists ever, like lyrically like, he's one

432
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 1: of my favorite artists. I just don't know. The first

433
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: album I had was Jealous Ones Envy, Like, I just

434
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: think some of those records he performed were cool, like

435
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: that ass up, face down record with Dre, Like, I

436
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: just don't think that record it was it was I

437
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: don't know if it was versus worthy, and I understand

438
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 1: the point he was trying to make. I still got red.

439
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes the platform is so big, it's like, how

440
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 1: could I not how could I not bring my man out?

441
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not even him bringing

442
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: dre out. I think he was trying to prove a

443
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: point that he still has current records that have been

444
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: coming out, but like some of those records might not

445
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: be the best fit for the platform of versus in

446
00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: New York. How did you feel about how did you

447
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: feel about Fat Joe performing Well, I don't know performing

448
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: but playing the Pun record Twins. I don't think he

449
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: played a punk record. He wasn't on I don't. I

450
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: didn't see that part that had to be early. Did

451
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: he play because I I'm like, though, there's no way

452
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't perform Twins. No, he did Twins and shot

453
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: him come out and do Pun's part. The thing about

454
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: Like Joe is like if it's I just I don't know, man,

455
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if him. I guess when you see it,

456
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 1: Fat Joe verstar Wo makes sense, But I didn't think

457
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: it made a lot of sense. I think Fat Joe's

458
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: more like got a lot more like that real rap

459
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: ship that I'd like to you know, if he would

460
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: if he would have went up against Jadakiss, that would

461
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: have made sense, but Jada would have won, but it

462
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: would have made more sense to me because I'm gonna

463
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: look into the camera and I'm gonna say this, right,

464
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: who did Jada battle? This is a fast essay from

465
00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: j Mills. Jada Kiss can not being versus anymore. There's

466
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 1: no I don't. I don't think any sort of way

467
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: that he's involved in versus. Remember how like on one

468
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: O six in Park they had to like retire bow

469
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: Wow Ship. It was like like, come on yo, this

470
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: is this is this doesn't even make sense. Yeah, mister

471
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: Park that I mean, Jadakiss is mister versus. So listen. Ever,

472
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: and then I knew a lot of people who thought

473
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: Fab was gonna be and I'm like, Y're crazy and

474
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: shout out the Fab is one thing I seen. They

475
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: had a twentieth anniversary for Fab first autum like Fab

476
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: September eleventh, as as a New Yorker and A and

477
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: A and a dude who was like heavy in the

478
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: mixtape eraor at that time and used to buy the

479
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: j Arms instrumental freestyle you know, instrumental mixtapes and write

480
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: my freestyle to him. Fab was like Fab was like

481
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: God to people from that era, stacking the punchlines on

482
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: the punchlines and not waiting for the eighth ball or

483
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: the fourth body, and I'm coming in on the first ball.

484
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I hope all the soul tapes end

485
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: up on the DSPs. Soul Tapes of Classics, man, Yeah,

486
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: sold tapes of classics and Fab? What's the other one? Uh,

487
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: Fab's best ship? Unfortunately it's nothing something the one with

488
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: Junior read that song with Junior read gangsters don't play

489
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: and they have to joint with uh t pain? That

490
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: album was crazy, that that album was insane. But I

491
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: think Fab's best ship isn't on the DSPs unfortunately, Like

492
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: the Soule tape, don't think it's his best I think

493
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: that's his like you know, and what what's the two

494
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: tapes he just put out? Uh? The first one I

495
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: loved fuck with the like vintage eighties nineties looking artwork.

496
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: The last two make like the last two projects he

497
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: put out. They were both he just puts out a

498
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: lot of mixtape ship And I'm like, bro, I think

499
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: Fab would thrive as an independent artist. Is Fab fab

500
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: still on depth? Jam? I sure think so? Probably shout

501
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: out to death Jam No idea what they do for

502
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: their artists anymore. No fucking clue, Like, oh, you're on

503
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: death Jam, what's that even mean anymore? Sh Uh, Fredo

504
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: Bang just asked to get off of death Jam. Shout

505
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: out to Freddo Bank. Who do you think if you

506
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: had to pair little Wayne against someone in the verses?

507
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: Who would? And he Birdman said wat himself. I kind

508
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: of feel I feel like there's certain people that's just like, no, no,

509
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: those certain people got to battle each other. I feel

510
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: like Wayne is in that boat. I feel like Wayne is.

511
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: I think it's Drake. I saw something today, right, saw

512
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: a tweet and it said like a happy Birthday Wayne tweet,

513
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: and it says some shit like Wayne been rapping for

514
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: twenty five years, he put out x amount of albums,

515
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: twelve albums or something like that, said he gave us Nikki,

516
00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: he gave us Drake, he gave us young money, and

517
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: he's still in his thirties. Salute my nigga, Wayne Man.

518
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: You think about nah Man Be and Wayne in the

519
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: same age, same age. So when I see some shit

520
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: like that, it's like, damn been rapping twenty five He's

521
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: been not rapping for twenty five that's crazy. Been in

522
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: the industry, on the charts, bling bling every time we come, right,

523
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: He been in with the he been twenty five years.

524
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: Gave you Nikki, he gave you Drake, gave you, Tiger

525
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: fucking gave you j Mills. You know what I'm saying.

526
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: Even if you want to be like, yeah, but Mills,

527
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: you was out before that. He helped rebrand me. So

528
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: I ain't going to I ain't going to like not

529
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: acknowledge that, you know what I'm saying. He did all

530
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: the dedication to the Carters. He did all that shit.

531
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: He went through his ups, his downs, he bounced back,

532
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: went through it with Birdman, all that shit and still

533
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: in his thirties. Hey, come on, man, he's one of

534
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: them people. No, he is. No. Who do I think

535
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: Wayne could go against some verses. He's in the He's

536
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: in the room where it's like him. They keep saying

537
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: Drake too. I think Drake is in that room. Ye, Drake, Hove,

538
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: Kanye Beyonce, Mary J. Blige snooping DMX. I would have said, not,

539
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 1: I love Mary, but Mary's not in the room. Mary's

540
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: in that room. I think, like Mary, Mariah Carey mar room.

541
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: I honestly feel like Jermaine dupre Puff, Doctor Dre Farrell.

542
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: They in that room too. I heard what Jamaine Dupree

543
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: said about he is in the Songwriters Hall of Fame.

544
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: This isn't a songwriter's verse. I don't see a world

545
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: in which Mary could beat Beyonce in the versus all

546
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: those other those other names you mentioned. Here's the world

547
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: in which they all can beat each other. I don't

548
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: think it's about I don't think it's so much. I'm right. No, Look,

549
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: Beyonce was in a group, Beyonce got Destiny child bags

550
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: beyond Beyonce will What I'm saying is all those names

551
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: you mentioned. Don't listen. Listen, listen. I am part of

552
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: Mary's not an immediate I'm part of this ship. Now.

553
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: You will not Marry's a legend, but she's not in that.

554
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: Not say this while we are in the same frame.

555
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: You will not say Mary is amazing, because he's not

556
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: about to say obliviate like obliterate like Beyonce would obliterate Mary.

557
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: She won't obliterate her in a versus battle. It literally

558
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: would be not a good look for Mary to do that.

559
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: It would be a horrible look Beyonce. Look, bro, bro,

560
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: I thought, look, Mary is a legend. You know what

561
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: you know when you said all those names, all those

562
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: people could beat each other. No, but but this is

563
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: the third thing. This is the thing. I'm not saying

564
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: who could beat each other. That's no, no, no, no no,

565
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying that you could put who's in that room.

566
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: Mary's in that room, Mary's in that room? Telling you

567
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: Mary's in that room, what's the four one one? My

568
00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: Maria is not in that room. She ain't She's not

569
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: in the room. She's in the room next door with Mary.

570
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: So you're telling me Mariah Carey and Mary Jay aren't

571
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: in the room with Beyonce. The room. Listen, there, it's

572
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: a room. Drake is in that room, Mary, Mariah, Beyonce

573
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: in that room. Missy she in that room, Bro, she

574
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: in that room. No disrespect to Missy. No, no, listen,

575
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: all this is all disrespected. You're saying. I'm not evenna

576
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: let you get away with the journalist. Jay is in

577
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: the building. Let's get it going. I cannot let you

578
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: do this. I can't let they are all in that room.

579
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: I actually don't think I don't think anyone's in the

580
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: room with Beyonce, could if if if you wanted to

581
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: put Beyonce in the class by myself. So Beyonce, she's

582
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: got a loft above the house. You know why I

583
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: don't get mad at you saying that because Beyonce, because

584
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: it may be people look it may be people that

585
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: looked at that the same way when bird Man said

586
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: that about Wayne. So I get it. It's it's it's

587
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: to each his own. I get your opinion. I'm just

588
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: saying I have a difference. I feel like they're all

589
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: in that room. So just feel like there's certain people

590
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: that I think there's a tier below the tier you're

591
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: talking about. And it's like Mariah Man, I feel like

592
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: that ship is a is a one level green room.

593
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I don't feel like it's any tears.

594
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: You feel like they all just sitting in the room.

595
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: Maybe or maybe I feel like that. I feel like

596
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: they're all in that room. Listen, Mariah is a fucking legend.

597
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't feel like Jamaine Duprie, how about this. Maybe

598
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: I was a little disrespectful to Mariah because Maria to me,

599
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that Jamaine. I'm feel like

600
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: I don't feel like Jermaine Dupree should be like, oh

601
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: Jamaine the Precabat or Puffbat, doctor Dre. It's certain people

602
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: that's like nah for you know what, you know what

603
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: Jamaine Dupree, Missy Mary, Beyonce, Lil Wayne Drake, jay Z,

604
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: those type of people they in that room over there,

605
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: like you can't even get in from the outside. You

606
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: gotta wait for one of them to leave. Mariah, Mariah

607
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: did put out the greatest hit to It was just

608
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: called the Ones. You know what I heard, you know

609
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: what I heard on the radio the other day. So

610
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: maybe Mariah's in the room New York, in the house.

611
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: That's how I said. I just that's how long hush

612
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: ship go back to. Maybe Maria should go back to. No,

613
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: maybe Mariah's in the room vocals. I didn't want to

614
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: see the Beyonce versus ship go her ship go back, man.

615
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. Mary's teetering on. I don't know what

616
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: it is. What's good with you? I love Mary, I

617
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: love Mary. The thing is very Mary. Mary's in that room.

618
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we can agree to disagree, we can agree

619
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: to disagree, but I'm telling you Mary, she's in that room. Man. Again,

620
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: what's the four one one in my life? We can't

621
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: put we can't put anyone in the same room as Beyonce,

622
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: female vocalists, et cetera. I just don't know Rihanna might

623
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: be in that room. Though. You said female vocalists. Who's

624
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna Beyonce? So now you just who's gonna beat Beyonce.

625
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying who could beat who. I'm

626
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: just saying, but who's in the room. I'm just saying

627
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: who's in the room. I don't know. Mary is not

628
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: close to Beyonce. I'm not saying that Mary is not

629
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Speaker 1: an incredible and influential and but but who the fucking

630
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: they're both in that room. Man shout out to Beyonce.

631
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Speaker 1: Man shout Beyonce. Shout out to Mary's Nicki Minaj in

632
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: that room. I think niggis in that room too. I

633
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: think Nikki Foxy come on, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no yo. You know why, you know why put Foxy

635
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Speaker 1: Brown and Little Kim in the same room as Beyonce

636
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: and Nicki Minaj. Bro Drake is in that room, missus.

637
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm naming people that in a versus. It's like it's like, now,

638
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: Foxy Brown is incredible. I love Foxy Broke. It's like

639
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: it's incredible album. It's likens Kendrick is in that room too,

640
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Kendrick in that room. It's not I'm not doing a

641
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: certain everything. I'm just telling you artists that when you

642
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: think about you know what, you know it's the problem.

643
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: They thought that same thing with the locks. When we

644
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: talk about the lock. Niggas thought O dipset got a

645
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: cold following. They got the cold following. But you forgot

646
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Speaker 1: to see you for see you forgot about the chain

647
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: gang freestyles on the Cluminati because I don't know if

648
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: you was getting those mixtapes where you was at. So

649
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: when niggas get on them stages and Foxy start performing

650
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: versus from freestyles on Clue mixtapes when it was her

651
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Speaker 1: a Z nods and called mego or nature, and we

652
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Speaker 1: remember them because it's the incredible. Yeah. Yeah, when Kim

653
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Speaker 1: start going into I've got no time. If they Donald twenty,

654
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Speaker 1: if they Donald, they see now you you now you

655
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Speaker 1: know what you're doing. You having people battle of a

656
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: people that's excluded from the world in which everyone has

657
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: fair chances. It ain't no chances. They worked hard enough

658
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: to get to the room where they ain't even in

659
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: this conversation. They're in a room not even in this conversation.

660
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy when the last time you listened

661
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Speaker 1: to Monster, When the last time you listened to Monster,

662
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: like four days ago, I listened to my beautiful dark

663
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Speaker 1: twist of Fantasy. Often he in that room? Who Kanye,

664
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: he's in that room? Yeah? But when the last time

665
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: you listened to Monsteryo, four days ago, I was driving

666
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: You think you don't you think she like, you don't

667
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: think she deserves to be in that Like I'm not

668
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: even gonna lie in the room. You know why I'm

669
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Speaker 1: naming these people that's supposed to be in this room

670
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: because versus and I've learned this, and we're gonna talk

671
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: about some other shit because this ain't the versus interview.

672
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Versus is about performance. It's about stage presence, it's about personalities,

673
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's about time. And all of these people

674
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm naming, I think when they get on that stage,

675
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: it's a lot of times you might have the better records.

676
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: I think Bow Wow had better records than Sojia Boys.

677
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: Listen Sojia Boy with long do or and shout out

678
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: the bow Wow shot Soldier Boy. You can't tell you

679
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: didn't watch that bullshit battle, but I'm I watched it,

680
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna tell you watch. Sojia Boy played she

681
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: Make It Clap four different times? Yeah cause so boys

682
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: got hold on record, but hold on. He played his version,

683
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: Then he played the remix for French Boy French Out.

684
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: Then he played a version from Nicki Minaj. We never

685
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: even heard it. We still haven't heard this verse, nigga

686
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: like he played the same song three times, No, nigga.

687
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: He played a version of she Make a Clap with

688
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj. That oh shit, oh shit. You know it's

689
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: crazy though, Soldier Boy is uh, she got intense oneos

690
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: record minute. Soldier boys records are way bigger than baw

691
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: Wo Got Crazy. Sojio Boy's biggest song. He might have

692
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: as many records, but Sojo Boy's biggest records are way

693
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: bigger than bow Wow's biggest records. I'm just telling you

694
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: I would have just like technical babyface, not my Harlem bias.

695
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: But I just I thought, yo, Teddy Riley, it is

696
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: Teddy Riley, and then I forgot I didn't. I was

697
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: like damn. I was like, oh shit, Babyface did this.

698
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: He did this, and I learned that shit through the

699
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: what's his name? Then he brought out he brought it.

700
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, uh, this is when baby Face fronted.

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Speaker 1: Let me sure how baby Face fronted? He said, yeah,

702
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: his next record right here, that nigga broke out an

703
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: acoustic guitar. I think he started playing when will I

704
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: See You Again? Like singing it. This is before it

705
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: was a stage. He was singing this ship to the Instagram,

706
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: had the feet tap and all that, and I'm like, damn,

707
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: Teddy wi Fi was fucked up. It was so much

708
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: going on, It's like, oh, it doesn't matter about it?

709
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: Am I lying? Bro? It was like it don't even

710
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: matter about the records no more. And I think now

711
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: where Versus came to the stage, shit, Earth Winning Fire

712
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: and the Osley Brothers in SWV and Escape. These are

713
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: groups where it's like, yo, they both got hits. So

714
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: now it's all about well who could sell it more? Hooka, whokah,

715
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: who's gonna look better? Who's going you know, Bobby Brown

716
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: had a lot of hits. Who would you like to say?

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00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: I would love to see Mary n Verses came up there.

718
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: My moms was looking at the verses like, go ahead, Keith,

719
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: who do who? Go ahead? Who do you think would

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00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: make sense? Because I would love to see Mary in

721
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: a verses? Who would Who do you think she should

722
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: go against? Mary versus Missy might be solid. Now they're

723
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: in the room, man, we gotta we gotta talk about

724
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: some Look. Look, I've had media training, right, and it's

725
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: what's going on about what five months? I've had media training.

726
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get me to say Mary the Mary

727
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: and Beyonce. Oh that was I almost fell for it too.

728
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: I almost said, nah, look Beyonce, Maryka, they're both queens.

729
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: They're both in the room, untouchable. Now Beyonce is winning,

730
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: though I don't know. I'm just gonna embrace greatness and

731
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: just be happy that. But I'm fucking good Beyonce is winning.

732
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't know who would Who would you know? Who wins?

733
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: Whoever's alive to see it? Fair enough? It's free, Okay,

734
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: that's an incredible win. We would get to see that

735
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Speaker 1: for free. Who would win if Drake and Wayne battled

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Speaker 1: on versus because they did the tour, the Drake versus

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00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: Wayne tour. O don't know, I don't think they would

738
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: do it, but it'd be cool to see because they

739
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: did do the Drake versus Little Who. Do you think though?

740
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: So if you who'd you put your money on? You

741
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Speaker 1: had to bet one hundred thousand dollars. I'm not betting

742
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: on that who, but you had to someone said, look you, no,

743
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Speaker 1: I don't have a hundred grand I don't have to

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Speaker 1: do anything free bet make sure I've fulfill my obligations

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00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: to the contract that I just that's all I have

746
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: to really do. I don't have to do anything. But

747
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: I think I think both of them. I think I

748
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: think Drake and Lil Wayne. You know what's crazy to me.

749
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: It's crazy to me to see like all of the

750
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: records that Drake is breaking in the time that he's

751
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Speaker 1: been in the industry. You unders what I'm saying. It's

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00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Would we we finally got like Drake

753
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: Drake like best I ever had so far? Go on

754
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: like what oh what that was nine twenty ten? Yeah,

755
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: think about like breaking the Beatles records and I like

756
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: the like I think I think more like I think

757
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: Drake's probably got like he could probably do it verses

758
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: with just his features. But I think Wayne can't get

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00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 1: in the bags. He can he can always into versus

760
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: battle say I signed you. It ain't even about that.

761
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: I think. I think with Wayne, we forget it. We

762
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: put my money on. It was one year that Wayne

763
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: I put my money. It was on like three hundred

764
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: Son records, involving like all the morning he had from

765
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: him and the features and twenty. I put my money

766
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: on Wayne just because I like, I think that on

767
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: stage he'd do better and he could. He could say

768
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: some slick ship that Drake couldn't answer to. I think

769
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: with Versus, it's hard to tell because it's about the sequencing. Man.

770
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: Secreencing is important. I think the performance at this it

771
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: used to not be about performance because people would just

772
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: play songs and then be on the IG live, like

773
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: just think, just think a way that ship came from

774
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Speaker 1: us watching it in the pandemic and the crib to

775
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: now it's fucking it was slowing down money. I think

776
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: the dipset like shit put a whole new energy behind it.

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Speaker 1: So shout out to uh Swizz and shout out to Timberland,

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00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,600
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That was some real shit

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Speaker 1: That did it before? You know, you got to think

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Speaker 1: about you know, how to keep ship going from this

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Speaker 1: point like what I'm doing like certain ship work for

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Speaker 1: certain people, you know what I'm saying. And I feel

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Speaker 1: so much. I'm back to the point where it was like, damn,

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00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: I ever had. I wasn't obligated that. Even right now

836
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: with the empis, I ain't obligated to nothing. I can

837
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: drop so every day if I want, you know, So,

838
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: it's not like an obligation to anything. You free to

839
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: do what you want. You're free to do this new shit,

840
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And they not saying I

841
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: can't do my music. Shit. It's just like, Yo, we

842
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: just need you to do this this blah blah. This

843
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: is what we're paying you for, right, you know what

844
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And now it's like, yo, bro, you could

845
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: really just do whatever the fuck you want. I'm not

846
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: looking for Oh I'm trying to. I got plaques already.

847
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: I got plaques that I'm still waiting to put up

848
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: when I'm moving to the new crib. So it's like,

849
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: you're not doing it for a plaque. And this is

850
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: another thing. This is another thing I had to I

851
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: had to learn sometimes you could be chasing some shit

852
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: that you already got, and I'm explaining to you. I

853
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: was ordering my place and shit right, and I was

854
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: ordering like, uh, young money gold album, fucking I am

855
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: not a human being album because I was on two

856
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: records on there, and it's platinum. All right, get my plaque.

857
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: But I never really paid attention to this type of shit.

858
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: So I would go to producer's houses and they'd be like, yo, Miles.

859
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: I would go to an engineer house and he would

860
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: be engineered on an album and he would have a

861
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: plaque and I wouldn't but I'm on it, and he'd

862
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: be like, yo, order, So now I'm ordering my plaques,

863
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: Billboard plaques. Young Money debuted at number one, hit number one.

864
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: The second album debuted here Soul List, so this one

865
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: was number So I'm like, now I'm ordering all these

866
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: these plaques, these Young Money plaques. So I'm like, you know,

867
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: i'd be on my geek shit sometimes, man, let me

868
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: google myself on Billboard, right, let me just see. So

869
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, I google myself, look up to date,

870
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: back search at all that shit, and I'm like, damn.

871
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: I was on the Billboard charts when I was still

872
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: living in my mom's crib. I was on the Billboard

873
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: charts before I was on the Billboard charts with Young Money.

874
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: But I just never knew. So I started ordering all

875
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: them shits. Order no, No, No, or or the streets

876
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: melting feature in Swiss Beats. I don't give a fuck

877
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: if it's number twenty, if it peaked that twenty eight

878
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: and it hit forty three, or if it peaked that

879
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: number twelve and it was dropped down to eighty something,

880
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: it was there, so you need to see that every

881
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: day so you could know that's not something you need

882
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: to keep chasing, chase some other shit. Wake up every day,

883
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: roll you up blunt and look at that time where

884
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: you was in the hot one hundred and you peaked

885
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: that number twenty three in two thousand and four. Was

886
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: it hard hard to figure out like kind of how

887
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: to keep monetizing J Mills? Fuck? Yeah, it was hard

888
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: because I ain't really have no real management and the

889
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: time where it was like the whole rock Nation shit,

890
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: or people were signing to groups or you're not signed

891
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: to a manager, you signed to a management group, like

892
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: I ain't really I was just one of them people.

893
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: It was like, I I know how to record myself,

894
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: I know how to do all this shit. I know

895
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: how to put it out. I just put it out.

896
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: But I'm getting lost and now it's people involved. You

897
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: need to be a part of a system, some sort

898
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: of some sort of machine. If you just want to

899
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: put the music out and do the music shit, you

900
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: need to be with some people that could pick up

901
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: where you stop with the music. They could pick up

902
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: with the rest of the business. And I think I

903
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: just got so lost in it. I just like putting

904
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: music out like I ain't pressed on the bread, the fame,

905
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: the numbers. It's like, bro, I'm gonna be real with you.

906
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: Once you doesnet been on that. You don't been around

907
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: the world with the whole young money shit and you

908
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: don't have to smack DVD the battle fame and you

909
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: know what it's like for flex to drop bombs on

910
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: your record and do that you didn't you did. That's

911
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: why I in the freestyle, I say, already did what

912
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: I came to do. All my visions became true. But

913
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: I ain't living in the past. I'm living in the now,

914
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I was in that

915
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: magazine that was the first magazine I was in. I

916
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: remember doing the interview in front of my mom. I

917
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: still lived in my mom's crib when I did that interview.

918
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: People who can't see it on camera. It's the double

919
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: excel eminem fifty cent and Doctor Dre when fifty first

920
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: got with them, and I remember I was like, damn,

921
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: I felt so excited because I had a whole page.

922
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: But this is coming from being in the source and

923
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: like off the radar, having like a piece of the

924
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: paper you're a part of shit like that, and you

925
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: wake up. You look at your plaques, and you look

926
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: at your kids, and you look at awards and shit

927
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: for award shows that you wouldn't go to no more

928
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: if they invited you because you don't. It's like you performed,

929
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: I won shit, I and if I never do it again,

930
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: I'm grateful enough to know, Yeah, that's what God. God

931
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: put that in your life for that moment, for you

932
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: to get to some other shit, you know what I'm saying.

933
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: And a lot of time I don't think people be

934
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: grateful for the shit they're already done because sometimes you

935
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: can't see it, you know what I'm saying. That's the

936
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: whole thing with the plaque shit. It's like, Yo, if

937
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: you look at all this shit, you'd be like, am

938
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: I really still trying to bust my ass to get

939
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: on the billboard charts? Or am I trying to get

940
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: on the billboard charts for you? Like am I still

941
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: trying to go platinum? Or am I trying to go

942
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: platinum for you? For you to be like, see, I

943
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: told you my nigga, do it, nigger, I know I

944
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: could do it even if I don't do it. I

945
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: just choose not to do it because got some other

946
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: shit going on. But when you don't have nothing going on,

947
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to I'm talking right now is talking from

948
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: a standpoint where it's like, yeah, I'm up here, don't

949
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: call now is available on all platforms, but you don't

950
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: stream it. My bills are gonna get paid. The Range Rover,

951
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: they're not gonna come take it. I don't owe anything

952
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: on my jewelry. I don't owe anybody anything, you know

953
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't feel like nobody owe me anything,

954
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I could talk like this,

955
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: and in my mind it's like, I see why when

956
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: people get to a certain point, they just be like, yo, man,

957
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing this shit because I want to, Like I

958
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: don't have to, you know, like people be like, I

959
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 1: don't really have to do this shit, and that should

960
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: just sounds so generic. Like right, it's like, now I'm

961
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: doing this shit because I love it, so you should

962
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: love this shit that I give you even more just

963
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: knowing I really don't have to do this shit, right right?

964
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: You know that's fair? Yo? What was like the creative process?

965
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: Let's go back to like a record like Bad Rock

966
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: or like a record like every Girl, Like how would

967
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: you would you would? Did you guys record those together?

968
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: Or would you guys? We recorded every Girl and Bad

969
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: Rock together, And once again, I'm gonna speak to the

970
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: genius or Wayne real quick. Wayne formulated that whole every

971
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: Girl bedrock type shit. Uh Wayne changed my whole verse

972
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: around on bad Rock. But the end was the beginning,

973
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: and I think the beginning was the end. But he

974
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, it sounds better on a walk in

975
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: this shit that he known from being with the hot

976
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: boys and shit like that, and he shared that with

977
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: us like he used to always share that shit with us, like, Yo,

978
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on these records with y'all, like I'm

979
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: gonna sell it with y'all. I ain't just gonna throw

980
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: y'all out there. So that's why he was on every Girl.

981
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: He was on Bad Rock, he was on he was

982
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: in the videos, he was bringing us on stage with him,

983
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: he was he was doing all of that because he

984
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: was trying to sell us. So really that was Wayne.

985
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: I did the Bedrock, I mean every Girl video with

986
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: all the different type of girls getting out the video,

987
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: like skinny girls, big girls, small girls, white girls, black girls.

988
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: This this religion, this religion. That was his idea to

989
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: make it seem like we like just kept getting out

990
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: the car like, yeah, we're just gonna be in a

991
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: factory with the car and we're just gonna so Drake,

992
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: Nicky J. Mills. Everyone's in the studio together during this time. Noah,

993
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: not for every girl. NICKI bullied her way on Bedrock.

994
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: Shout Shout the Dickie. She was like, no, y'all not

995
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna put out another single without me, like because every

996
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: girl was like something that we just did. Yeah, she's

997
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: not at every girl, right, No, yeah, that's yeah. Every

998
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: girl was something we did. And uh, I want to

999
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: say Hollywood somewhere or somewhere like up there sunset, you

1000
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: know them like the hotel that got a studio in

1001
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: the hotel I forgot. It's one of them sexy shi

1002
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: its like on the on the whatever. Long story short,

1003
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: we did it in there, and yeah, we was all

1004
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: in there together. We was all in there together when

1005
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: we did Bedrock. Uh, when we did Bedrock, Lloyd wasn't

1006
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: on that. The Marion was on it when we first

1007
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: when we first did it, and they got leaked and

1008
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: I think uh, you know, way ain't on hear and

1009
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: fuck with no leaks, So when they got leaked, like

1010
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: they was trying to like still use the record. But

1011
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: that's why when the final record came out, it was

1012
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: that it was I will say this man, Way ain't

1013
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: don't get enough credit for a lot of ship, like

1014
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: with the whole Young Money ship, like we was when

1015
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: you think about where we was at with it, Like

1016
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: Drake was Drake from the Grassy and nick he was

1017
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: Nikki from the from the DVDs and the mixtapes and

1018
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: Gucci and all of that shit she was doing. And

1019
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: I was Me from the Smack DVDs and mixtapes and

1020
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: all of that. But Wayne was Wayne. He was on

1021
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: the verge of it was right before Lollipopkin. He was

1022
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: on the verge of becoming Wayne Wayne. When he became

1023
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: Wayne Wayne, a million records sol first week called at three,

1024
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: he took everybody, you know what I'm saying, even if

1025
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: before it was artist bus and we all had different buses,

1026
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: it was fucking y'allg just on my bus, you know

1027
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I give him a lot of

1028
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: credit for that because he didn't have to put us

1029
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: on the stage with him at the height of his shit.

1030
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I can't think of too

1031
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: many artists at that time of his like level that

1032
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: was doing the shit that he did for us. Was

1033
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: there ever anyone that you knew that almost signed with

1034
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: Young Money that didn't end up working out? That would

1035
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: have been crazy? Uh? Damn. I don't know. I don't know.

1036
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: I can't really, I can't really it was, it was,

1037
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: It was a few I remember Mario and I thought

1038
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: that was gonna be cool, the whole of Marion thing.

1039
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened with that. I remember Lloyd Lloyd, Uh,

1040
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was. You know, people was probably

1041
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: hitting Wayne up like crazy. I remember one day I

1042
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: was with Wayne and he was like, yo, boys just

1043
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: hit me up about getting with young Wayne was He

1044
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: was like Norri Nori Jeger, this is like, this is

1045
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: like a while, This is like when Nori was doing

1046
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: regaetone kind of probably around that time. He was not

1047
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: he was still booming. He was still booming. Yeah, probably

1048
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: nothing Raggaeton one of them and shout out to Norri

1049
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 1: man like Noorri one of them people. Uh, I don't

1050
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: really speak to him too much. But when I speak

1051
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: to him, he always tell me about myself. He always always,

1052
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: and I used to I used to go back and

1053
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: forth with him, you know, because we probably smoking and

1054
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: drinking and it's probably coming across like yo, And I

1055
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: had to realize, like Yo, I used to listen to

1056
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: this man when I was in the ninth, tenth grade,

1057
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: eleventh grade, you know what I'm saying. I used to

1058
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: ride to school and listen to the War reporting and

1059
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: ri E And first time I heard FAB was on

1060
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: a clue freestyle with Norri on air. Oh wow, wrapping

1061
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: over money, power respect. So when I talk to people

1062
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: like that, it's not really about rap no more. It's

1063
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: like I don't really care about doing a song with you,

1064
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 1: like I ain't really even tripping on doing a drink

1065
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: Champs interview. Hey, I'm sure, and I'm gonna tell you why,

1066
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: Because I feel like I get more from you answering

1067
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: the phone, answering the text message you know what I'm saying,

1068
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: or if I'm in town, like yo, I'm here, I

1069
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: bet link up, let's link up. I get more out

1070
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: of that than trying to get some publicity or market

1071
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: something or like nah, you interviewed this one. I need

1072
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: to come promote. It's like, nah, man, just answer, you

1073
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's like that with a

1074
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: lot of people, like shout out to young Guru. You

1075
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I sometimes I just hit Guru

1076
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: like yo, just checking in, just saying what's up. You know.

1077
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: Like once I was in the studio with him and

1078
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: kicked it with him and he started telling me your mills,

1079
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: it'd be crazy if you take your battle and turn

1080
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: it into an NFT. And it's like and I'm sitting

1081
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: there like, Yo, this is jay Z's engineer. Like he

1082
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: giving me game right in his crib, giving me game.

1083
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: Open his door to me. You know what I'm saying.

1084
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: So I value shit like that more than Yo, Let's

1085
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: do some music. It's like, man, I've been doing music

1086
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: for twenty years. Man, would you do battling anymore? I

1087
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: probably would, but not at this present moment. Like I

1088
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: got a lot of bag. Oh the bag gotta be stupid, right,

1089
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: The bag was right when I came back. So you

1090
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The bag was right when I

1091
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: came back. But there's so much money in the battle

1092
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: rap shit man, good trans This is a good journalist, Jay,

1093
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: a good transition. I was watching, Uh was it summer

1094
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: madness the overy day. You don't you don't keep up

1095
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 1: with the battle the battle culture. Man. I I used

1096
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: to and it just became like it just became a lot.

1097
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: It's just killing uh battle culture. Yeah, shout out the smack,

1098
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: Shout out the U R l H. Shout the caffeine.

1099
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: Shout the caffeine, shout the Uh. I saw the geechee

1100
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: Gotti caliculture, Uh moove read shout to Kashan Kishan battle

1101
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: Uh chess. Easy see these as people and I noticed this.

1102
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: I know this with my platform and with my new

1103
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: platform and ship like that. When you speak about these

1104
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: type of things, you gotta highlight ship. You can't just

1105
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: glaze over ship. Because I was one of those battle

1106
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: rappers before that. A nigga only shout out the headliner

1107
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: like yeah, shout out the mook and this this like Nah,

1108
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: it was a lot of other niggas up there. I

1109
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: got busy that day. It's a lot of other niggas

1110
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: that went to work that day. You know what I'm saying.

1111
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: They was up there trying to get a back end

1112
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: hoping the nigga. Don't bump them, hoping the nigga, you

1113
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I still try to keep

1114
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: keep keep myself tapped in with that culture. That's why

1115
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: when you asking me what I still battle, it's like

1116
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: hell yeah, shout out the head Ice had Ice ain't

1117
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: no young young boy, but he fucking he a god

1118
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: with the battle rap shit. That's another sport where father

1119
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,479
Speaker 1: time don't catch up with you. In battle rap, father

1120
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: time don't catch up with you and rap. I just

1121
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: watched Nas want a Grammy. I was with Nori in

1122
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: Miami when Nas want to Grammy and he was facetiing.

1123
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: He was hitting him like yo, you did that for queens,

1124
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: And like I was with Nori speak like just how

1125
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: everything just come full circle? You know what I'm saying.

1126
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: It's like yo, I was. I was with him when

1127
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 1: he faced timed Nas like yo, you just like it's

1128
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: just moments like that for me. Now it's past music.

1129
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: It's past trying to create a musical moment like I can't.

1130
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to hit two chains and be like yo,

1131
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: I need a verse like you did a verse for

1132
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: me when you was charging one hundred thousand. All I

1133
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: want for my birthday is a big bully girl Mills,

1134
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: just send it. You ain't never got it. You ain't

1135
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: never got it. It's certain people that did shit for me, uh,

1136
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: when I was coming up in my music career, throughout

1137
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: my music career, when I might have been at a

1138
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: downtime and you know, I needed I needed some help

1139
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: with some shit. It's a lot of people that might

1140
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: have helped me with things. And right now people might

1141
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: be like, Yo, why you don't hit so and so

1142
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: for a feature? Why you don't hit this one for

1143
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: a feature? It's like, nah, because that person already did

1144
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: shit for me that I don't even give a fuck

1145
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: about the feature. The other ship that they did was

1146
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: more important. That shit meant more to me, Like now

1147
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm more into some shit, like Yo, can I get

1148
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: you for my show? How many minutes can I get

1149
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: you for for this segment I got for? You know

1150
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that that don't mean more than me.

1151
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: Fuck with me now and this new shit I'm doing

1152
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: because I ain't gonna keep asking you for no And

1153
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: to keep it real, majority of the people that did

1154
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: a lot of shit for me in the industry did

1155
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: it for free? I can't really tell. I could probably

1156
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: count on three fingers the times I paid for a feature.

1157
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: Now look at now, I ain't gonna throw them out there, like,

1158
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 1: come on, and who'd you pay for? You don't gotta

1159
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: tell how much? Who'd you have to pay for? You

1160
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: want know somen crazy? They all from New York, So

1161
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: who'd you pay for? Because I wouldn't want to put

1162
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: it out there. But I'm just saying people pay for features.

1163
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: People do. But I'm just trying to show the love

1164
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: that I've gotten from everyone that first came in the game.

1165
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: Threw ups and downs before Young Money? What young money?

1166
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: After Young money? My independence, like when I was just

1167
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: a mixtape nigga with no with no nothing. I know

1168
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: you had mentioned that you and Vado might be doing

1169
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: something like a project. Is that something that's still even

1170
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: on the table, Like yeah, uh, you know what it

1171
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: is to drive me and Vado, we always go back

1172
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: and forth like we're gonna do this, go do that,

1173
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: never get around to it. So I don't know. But

1174
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: Vias my boy, viz v He is like one of

1175
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: my fucking best friends in life. Like I knew Vado

1176
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: before we was both rappers. I think he was the

1177
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: first guy, like I remember the Slime Ship was he was,

1178
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: And we got that from Nori And we got that

1179
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: from Nori saying that ship in the video like yeah

1180
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: it was and then yeah yeah, So we say that

1181
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: we acknowledged that we from we from that era, We

1182
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,959
Speaker 1: from the era of like we was talking earlier about,

1183
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: like Stretch Armstrong and you know, Cam and Joel's going

1184
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: up to Stretch arm Strong, a Major Figures going up

1185
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: to Stretch Strong, shout out to shout out to Gilly

1186
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: and shout out to the Major Figures. Man, I don't

1187
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't speak on a lot of this a lot,

1188
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: but I remember when Major Figures was like the thing right,

1189
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: and I was one of them kids. I used to

1190
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: be listening to Stretch Armstrong on Sundays taping it, you know,

1191
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: because I know when whoever come up here, they gonna rap,

1192
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: whether it's Eminem and Royce, whether it's Royce byself. That's

1193
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: how I found out, like, yo, this is name five

1194
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: nine is nice because he you know, so I know this,

1195
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: Gilly and them would come, they go up there, they mob,

1196
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: they kill it, they flowing their spin and they got

1197
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: this ship down. It's but one thing I always used

1198
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: to notice is I know that this show is being

1199
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: recorded in New York, so that means they came from

1200
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: They come from a whole nother state. It's Nigga Royster

1201
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: five nine, and they came from a whole number state

1202
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: to come up here and just just get they ship

1203
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: off at that time. To me, that's what I wanted

1204
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: to do. It's like, I just want to go averywhere

1205
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: and get my shit off. I want to wrap I

1206
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: wanted you know what I'm saying. So it reverts right

1207
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: back to the like, Yo, even if I wasn't making

1208
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 1: no money off of rap, I probably still talk my ship.

1209
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: Were you around? Uh young money? Cash money? When Gilly

1210
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: was around? Was that prior to you? I was. I

1211
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: wasn't around for it. I was. That was before me.

1212
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: That was before me. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy to think,

1213
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: like the folklore of whether or not he helped Wayne write.

1214
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think Gilly wrote for Wayne.

1215
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: But Wayne is the type of person if you're around

1216
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: him and you nice, it ain't. I ain't gonna act

1217
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: like I don't know you nice. It's like, Yo, I

1218
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: got some shit y'all tell me how you think this sound.

1219
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: And if you be like, ain't I think on the

1220
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: other part, you could have said that ship like I'd

1221
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: be like, a good idea, yeah, good good look, A

1222
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: good look, and I appreciate that. I bet there's probably

1223
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: some shit like that you wrote for me. You you

1224
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: write for me because you might not even be as

1225
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: nice as me. You right for me. And I'm not

1226
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: saying like the Gilly and Wayne, but I'm just saying

1227
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: like I'm one of them people, my boys, sitting right

1228
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: there to them, and many times like once we done

1229
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: got comfortable enough to the point where he don't look

1230
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: at me like, oh that's big, bro, I can't tell me,

1231
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to tell that nigga that shit.

1232
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: Once it got to the point we could be like, hmm,

1233
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: you said this, yeah you can do it and now,

1234
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: and then it to get to a point where he'd

1235
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: be like, I think, well, maybe you probably could have

1236
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: said like, instead of saying this it's cool, does that

1237
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: mean you're right for me? I just sat up here

1238
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: and told you on bedrock the end was the beginning.

1239
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: The beginning was the end. Wayne told me amails it

1240
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: come out the booth real quick. I think you should

1241
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: start it off she ain't and when she missed, that's

1242
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: that's better. And then leave the other part for the other.

1243
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: Does that mean Wayne? Right for me? Right right right?

1244
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: It's my man, it's my boy. We're working on the

1245
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: same product. You know what I'm saying that, But that's

1246
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: how I look at it. That's just me, you know

1247
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Other people might look at it like now,

1248
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't be wanting nobody to help me with nothing cool.

1249
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: It's me and it's all right. Let's just say at

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01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: that time it's me, It's gotta gutta, it's Tiger, it's Wayne,

1251
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: it's Drake, is MacMahon, is Nikki. Before we even go

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01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: into booth, we're gonna say our verse for everybody in

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01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: a circle. He'll turn that, turn that down real quick.

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01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: All I got everybody like this. I don't think we

1255
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: the only crew that used to function like that. I

1256
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: think before you go into booth, CAM wanted to hear

1257
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: your shit too, and Cam gonna be brutally honest and

1258
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: way ain't gonna be. It was times some people might

1259
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: not make it to a song. It was songs I

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01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: didn't make it too, because Wayne might hear that shit

1261
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: and be like nah nah, or he might get to

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01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: the studio and we already don't put verses on shit.

1263
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: Before he got there, he planned back listen to it,

1264
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: be like oh oh nah, no, gotta gotta kill you

1265
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: on that one. Take that verse off. Fuck. I'm gonna say,

1266
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. What at that point, it's like,

1267
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: we're probably about to do eight more records tonight. You're

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01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: not thinking You're not thinking about it like that when

1269
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: you in that crew mode and you and that it's

1270
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,479
Speaker 1: my niggas were bombing on We just bombing on shit.

1271
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You're not thinking like that.

1272
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: And I think TD he wasn't thinking like that. Q

1273
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: ain't in there with Abs Soul and Kendrick and all

1274
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: of them when they was doing eight things like you're

1275
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 1: just bombing on shit. You're just bombing on shit. Yeah,

1276
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: that's that's a fair point with the new thing. You're

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01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: a part of it. You can't speak on all the

1278
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: way yet, right. That's shout out to my partners man

1279
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: some some sort of art like what made you? I

1280
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: guess I want to pivot out of doing the music

1281
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: shit more and doing the video shit and then maybe

1282
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: kind of being more of a personality. Man, I'm about

1283
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: to sound crazy right now. Uh well I could be.

1284
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: And my boy, my boy shouts at my boy Linux.

1285
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: If anybody really been following me, they know, uh. In

1286
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: the pandemic, when the whole quarantine shit started, we started

1287
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: a podcast, and my boy right there, we started a

1288
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: podcast called the Loud Opinions Podcast. Right I would pull

1289
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: up at his crib. We invested in some lights, some speakers,

1290
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: some mics. I got laptop with garage bend. Let's get

1291
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: a mixer. Let's figure out how the inputs and how

1292
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: to do this shit. All right, that work set up

1293
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: my Osmo pocket right here. You got an iPhone eleven.

1294
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: I got an iPhone XL. Let's order some Amazon tripods.

1295
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: Fucking I think this is how it worked. I film

1296
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: you from this angle. I'm gonna film me from this angle,

1297
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna film both of us on this angle.

1298
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: Go home, get on YouTube, learn how to fucking edit

1299
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: multi caam right right right, so now I'm editing our shit.

1300
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: We ain't getting no views like that. You go pull

1301
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: it up right now, real shit, I ain't gonna lie.

1302
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: You can pull it up right now. I ain't getting

1303
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: no views like that, but we're doing it. Probably did

1304
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: about fourteen, fifteen, twelve, twelve twelve, probably like fourteen. We

1305
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: do like fourteen episodes, right, So we kind of had

1306
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: a point like, yo, what are we doing? You know

1307
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Is this shit working? Is it worth it?

1308
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: Do it makes sense? We fell back off doing it.

1309
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: I put out wood paying the walls. So when I

1310
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: put out wood paying the walls, by now we're shooting videos.

1311
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling him, like, bro, I know angles I got

1312
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: the camera to the point where he went and bought

1313
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: a camera. Bro, let me get nice to shooting videos

1314
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: by shooting your videos. He was paying a dude to

1315
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: shoot the video. You don't gotta pay me nothing. I'm

1316
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: your boy. But when I need a video done, you

1317
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: could I'll show you what I know and in return

1318
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: we could just bang out. So we're doing that with

1319
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: shooting videos and shit. So now from the podcast, I

1320
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: learned how to edit. That taught me how to edit

1321
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: the videos. So now I'm shooting the videos, I'm editing

1322
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: the videos. I do woodpaying the walls. I'm like, yo,

1323
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: let me try some shit. I'm just trying shit, you

1324
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, trying to get more traction with

1325
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: the project. I'm like, let me do like a little documentary.

1326
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: So I set the tripod up in the studio, filmed

1327
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: myself talking, I take pictures video, also make a little documentary.

1328
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: The dude I later found out the dude who came

1329
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: to me with the opportunity for the job shout out

1330
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: with my boy Harrison. He came to me with the

1331
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 1: situation and I thought it was fake. I thought it

1332
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: was fake, and I was like, Yo, just tell me

1333
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: how much y'all could pay me for what y'all need

1334
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: me to do, you know what I'm saying. So he

1335
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: told me, and I'm like, all right, because you gotta remember,

1336
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't got no manager, I don't got no agent,

1337
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't got no nothing. I just happened to check

1338
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: the email one day and it was like, Yo, we

1339
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: want you to do this right, Let me just reply

1340
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: to this shit. So I replied to it, and I'm

1341
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: gonna just fast forward to the point of what made

1342
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: me want a transition. He was like, Yo, he's twenty three,

1343
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: twenty four years old. So I had to ask him like, Yo,

1344
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: what made you think that this was the fun? Made

1345
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: you come to me? You know what I'm saying, and

1346
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: think that I could even do this shit. I don't

1347
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: have no history in doing this shit or nothing. What

1348
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: made you? And he was like, Yo, I saw your podcast.

1349
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 1: I watched the podcast episodes, and I watched your documentary,

1350
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: he said, And then from there I went and looked

1351
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: at your battles and all of that. So I'm like, damn,

1352
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: if we wouldn't have never been doing the podcast and

1353
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just still have that there for you to

1354
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: go look at fifteen episodes of personality and range and

1355
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: different conversations and laughing and joking and all of this shit.

1356
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: Who might have had an opportunity? I might not have

1357
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: had the opportunity if I never would have did that

1358
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: documentary that at the end when the credits rolled, it's say, directed,

1359
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: shot and edited by Jarvis J. Mills. Mills, you wouldn't

1360
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: have came to me and gave me equity and made

1361
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: me an executive producer and brought me in a writer's

1362
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: room for some sure, but you already know I could

1363
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: do this shit. So when I'm like, Yo, this ship

1364
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: is too good, to be true. They like, Nah, this

1365
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: is this is this is destined for you. This is

1366
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: perfect for you, man, you know what I'm saying. So

1367
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: when you it's like, Yo, God brought this to me.

1368
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: That's why I'd be like, can't nobody be like if

1369
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't for me, if it wasn't for you, what

1370
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: you ain't got nothing to do with this? I would have.

1371
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't have. I don't even have a team of people.

1372
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: I gotta split my ship with now, which is even better.

1373
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: It's crazy, you know what I'm saying. You know what

1374
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So with that, it's like, Yo, and I

1375
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: could get up here and be like, when you asked me,

1376
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: do you want to? But you're still baddle again. Fuck though,

1377
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: I don't need to fucking battle nigga, I'm over. It's like, nah,

1378
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: I love that ship. I would probably still battle for free,

1379
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because it's not It was

1380
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: never about them, And people gonna see that, Yeah, they

1381
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: gonna see it. They gonna see that now with this

1382
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: this era of j Mills, you know what I'm saying,

1383
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm engaged. I'm fucking playing a wedding, you know what

1384
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I appreciate that. Man. So I'm married. Planning

1385
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: the wedding is the least fun part about that. But

1386
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: it's fun to you know what I'm saying. It's fun

1387
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: to me because it's some news and you gotta figure

1388
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: out who to invite, who not to invite. Okay, how many?

1389
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: How much is that? Let's talk? How much is it

1390
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: per plate? No? No, we're gonna have to cut about

1391
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 1: fifty motherfuckers. This is the problem. This is the problem.

1392
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 1: My fiance, she's gonna like this part of the interview.

1393
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about this wedding ship too, right, Yo.

1394
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: Why people just think that they're gonna be invited to

1395
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: your wedding? I don't know what. At what point in

1396
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: life did this start with people just tell you, yeah,

1397
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: because at your wedding. I'm a nah, you might not

1398
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: even be at the wedding. What are you talking? I

1399
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: had about eighty five people on my wedding. I was like,

1400
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: everybody wanted I gotta keep it under a hundred vaccinated man,

1401
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah you want the bunk. I hit the blunt. Man,

1402
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm not vaccinated, but you're telling me that after I

1403
01:11:53,920 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: hit the bunt the way he said it. It was like, Yo,

1404
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: are you vaccinated, because I cool you can hit it.

1405
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: That's like, oh, by the way, I'm not vaccinated. And

1406
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you enjoy that Corona. I was

1407
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: going to tell you Jesus, I get tested. I get tested. Yeah,

1408
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 1: I get tested every week, right, and my daughter kids,

1409
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: they get tested at school. All of that with that,

1410
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: but I heard and I heard uh in like I

1411
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: don't know if it's New York on New Jersey. I

1412
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: heard they're not testing the kids. They only testing, uh,

1413
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: the teachers. I could be wrong, I'm just talking. I

1414
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I would be real nervous if

1415
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: the kids weren't getting tested because kids is like they

1416
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: real careless and they just when that. Plus, you won't

1417
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: even know if they have it, because most of the time,

1418
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: if a kid has coronavirus, they don't They're usually asymptomatic.

1419
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: It's true, so you might not know. You be like

1420
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: kicking it with with your kids, taking them over to

1421
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: Grandma Grandpa's house. Grandma and Grandpa died. Yo, you you

1422
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: know you know what? You know what? I was just

1423
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: telling me about the song and feeling like mellow shit, right,

1424
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: It's so crazy like I always tell you, like anybody

1425
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: who know me, no, Carmelo Anthony my favorite basketball player.

1426
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: You know I'm not saying he's the best. He's your

1427
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: favorite favorite, right of course. So been following him since

1428
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: high school. So I always used to like kind of

1429
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: like run my career like parallel to Mellow or some shit.

1430
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: And I always used to sise to be like, yo,

1431
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's so crazy. The only thing I'm missing

1432
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: is like a solo, major album that has done all

1433
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: of these miraculous numbies that. But it's like, what damn

1434
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: is that for me? Or is that for argument sake

1435
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: of the fans or argument sake of your friends and

1436
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: people that because for me, I did way more than

1437
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: I thought I would. When I step back and I

1438
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: look at awards and plaques and I look at shit

1439
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: like that, and how long I've been doing this shit?

1440
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: And people come and go. People don't last twenty years,

1441
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I'll be trying to

1442
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: tell people like, bro, I was a kid. I came

1443
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: in this like I got my first deal at seventeen.

1444
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: I was a fucking kid rapper kind of you know

1445
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The book to do the battle shit

1446
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: and do it and do all that. So when you

1447
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: when you when you get to this point, man, you

1448
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: be grateful for a lot of shit. You don't look

1449
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: down on nothing. You You try to look at what's

1450
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: gonna be the fucking next move, what's gonna be the

1451
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: next what's gonna be the next uh, the next thing

1452
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: that I could be a part of. On some j

1453
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: mil's branding myself shit, not like I'm a rapper. It's like, nah,

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Speaker 1: I rap, you know what I'm saying, I fucking I rap,

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Speaker 1: I direct, I produce, I write, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So everything bringing it back to the to the mellow shit,

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Speaker 1: it all. Everything with me is like always felt like

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Speaker 1: the underdogs. I always felt like I had to do more,

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Speaker 1: Always felt like I had to put out more freestyles.

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Speaker 1: I gotta put out more mixtapes, I gotta I gotta

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Speaker 1: post more tweets, I gotta, I gotta beat because I

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Speaker 1: can't get lost in shit. And in trying to do that,

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Speaker 1: it's like niggas a overlook all the shit you did,

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Speaker 1: So I make you step back and it'd be like,

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Speaker 1: hold on what you did, what you did? And then

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Speaker 1: when I had my downtime. That's why I said to them, Bars,

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Speaker 1: I was telling you, it's like yo, I could see

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Speaker 1: how Mellow could feel like damn. So it's always me.

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Speaker 1: So I'm always the problem. All right, Cool, I'll take

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Speaker 1: that last time I would say, I said, bro, anything

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Speaker 1: that ever happened in my career, I take the blame

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Speaker 1: for it. I can't blame nobody else. I'll take the

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Speaker 1: blame before I blame somebody else, because I sleep better

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Speaker 1: like that. You can rewind to the last interview I

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Speaker 1: said the same thing. Mello took the blame for a

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Speaker 1: lot of shit that wasn't as blame. You know, wasn't

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Speaker 1: his fault, but he still took the blame for it.

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Speaker 1: When he was out the NBA, niggas ragged him and

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Speaker 1: Nigga over he can't buy my body. He came back Portland,

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Speaker 1: did his thing. Yeah, now it was oh, Mellow, Mellow, Melo, Mello,

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Speaker 1: melt don't call now. I be prepared for that ship.

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Speaker 1: That that's why I always say, Man, you be in

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01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: this ship for as long as I've been in it,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have some ups and downs. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it's about how do you handle the

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Speaker 1: ups and downs? How do you deal with people that

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Speaker 1: when you came back down, they showed you what it

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Speaker 1: really was. That's what I'm saying. You gotta you gotta

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Speaker 1: learn that ship, man, Like, that's some ship you gotta.

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Speaker 1: I had to learn that thinking everybody your friend, everybody

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Speaker 1: your homie. If I thought everybody was my homie, everybody

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Speaker 1: was my friend, I would go sit and do this

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Speaker 1: with everybody. I know everybody that's fair, I know him,

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Speaker 1: I know what they're doing. I know when they shows

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Speaker 1: come on. And there's plenty times that you could have

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Speaker 1: had me come sit down, listen to me talk. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, there was plenty of times

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Speaker 1: where a nigga could have Are you gonna do the podcast? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know with the new situation that might be had,

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Speaker 1: what it makes sense for you to try to bring

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Speaker 1: the podcast back. I was thinking about bringing the podcast back.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're not telling me like I can't do

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Speaker 1: no no other ship like that. So that's just the

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Speaker 1: beauty of it. Like when I was looking at the contract,

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Speaker 1: it's son that I already was doing before this. So

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01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: it's son that was already emotion you can pull it

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Speaker 1: up and see that I was doing it, so it's

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Speaker 1: not like I took a new job. Right. Well, we

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see what it's gonna be. Hopefully we'll

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Speaker 1: be announcing it soon the album is out, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have you what have you come back in like six

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Speaker 1: months whenever you announced this. I'm just waiting for them.

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Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for for the announcement and the little

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Speaker 1: press release thing and then I'm right back this guy

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Speaker 1: judge and host Netflix. Really, Fred, I'm just kidding shout

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Speaker 1: to people's absolutely zero inside information. So if I guess

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Speaker 1: that correctly, it was not your fault. I'm not on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: There is no not Netflix. I'm not on none of that.

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Speaker 1: So he's gonna be on HBO Max. Uh anyway, appreciate you, man. Hey,

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Speaker 1: look j Mills, go get the album. Don't call now,

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Speaker 1: and the freestyle's out, so go watch the freestyle. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm nice, man, Come on, I'm always gonna be nice.

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Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be always. You can't lose. That is

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Speaker 1: what it is. Boom