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Speaker 1: into another edition of the Colts Official Podcast, presented by

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Speaker 1: when Bat. I'm JJ Stankobit sitting in the host chair

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Speaker 1: for Jeffrey Gorman this week and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: Lara Overton and Matt Taylor on this podcast. Guys, we

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Speaker 1: got a lot to get to. We got coach Rick

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Speaker 1: podcast to break down Gus Bradley's defense exactly what Rick

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Speaker 1: that out if you haven't already. But Matt, just as

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty six, I think I got that right.

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Speaker 1: to get your predictions, Lara and Matt, not only on

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Speaker 1: Chrissanda Floyd as the MVP. Lara, who do you got?

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Speaker 1: You are? Really? Oh god, I'm I know it's a

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Speaker 1: bit of a I didn't. I didn't put that in

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Speaker 1: the rundown, But I didn't. You didn't just curveball here?

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Speaker 1: like thirty twenty one with Cooper Cup as your MVP.

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Speaker 1: kind of nonsensical high school stuff and just kind of

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00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: wasting time. And then when you went to the North

426
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: practices that might be reversed. So you went to the

427
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 1: other team practices. Gus Bradley in fifteen minutes was walking

428
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: these guys through fits, walking them through coverages. I remember

429
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: saying to myself, my God, that is a drastic difference.

430
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: So that's just a personal note out of my past.

431
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: But I'm pleased with us. You know, I think this

432
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: is an upgrade period, and so I think the Coast

433
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: did very well to start the off season. Coach, you

434
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: and I have conversations all season long, all off season long,

435
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: we're texting back and forth. And I also had a

436
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: lot of conversations with colleagues, fellow team reporters across the league,

437
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: and in particular the Chargers team reporter who spent several

438
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: seasons with coach Bradley. I mean, couldn't say enough fantastic

439
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: things about him as a coach. Him as a person

440
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: really seems like a from a cultural standpoint, he's a

441
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: great fit within the organization. But also in our conversation

442
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: that JJ and I had with him yesterday, he mentioned

443
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: a couple of different points that stand out to me. One,

444
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: taking a lot of the principles from all the different

445
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: influences that he has had over his career, and constantly

446
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: evolving a defense, having certainly a foundation of it, but

447
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: being able to manipulate and adapt because we are seeing

448
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: across the NFL, you know, these young, emerging, ascending quarterbacks

449
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: who are so dynamic. That his point was, you have

450
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: to stay a year or two years ahead of kind

451
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: of where they're trying to evolve these unique offenses because

452
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: of the talent that you're seeing at the quarterback position.

453
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: And he said one of the first things that he'll

454
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: do get that staff in place and start to look

455
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: at the skill set of the players who he has.

456
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: He mentioned having Pro Bowl guys at every component of

457
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: this defense, D line, linebackers and in the secondary and

458
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: looking at a system, but also looking at the talent

459
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: that he has with the guys and being able to

460
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: merge those two things together put these guys in position

461
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: to play to their potential with the foundation that Matt

462
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: Eberflus established already and now Gus Bradley being able to

463
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: adapt that. Would you foresee this defense looking like going

464
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: into the next season, starting with a critical ota period

465
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: this spring, Well, you know, I look for improvement in

466
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: certain areas. I mean, if you take away Leonard's ability

467
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: to turn the ball over, there is absolutely nothing elite

468
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: about this defense right now. And if you want to

469
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: know the truth, it's seven games this year. Our defense

470
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: let us down. So much has been said about Carson Wentz,

471
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, there are issues there, There's no doubt

472
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: about it. I've been critical of overplaying that myself, and

473
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: what it mask and what it kind of diverts from

474
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: is just where our defense was. I mean, our defense

475
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: gave up. They blew three games with double digit leads.

476
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: They lost two games on walkoff drives, and then the

477
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: last two games that we had to win that we

478
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: we're playing people that we should win and should stop,

479
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: they actually got shredded. So there's you know, there's seven

480
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: games there that really our defense, in my opinion, if

481
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: nothing else, if the defense plays, we win. And this

482
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: is with an offense now that is ranked ninth and

483
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: fourth in time of possessions. So it's not like you're

484
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: on the field too long. I mean, in the end,

485
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: if you wanted to look at the Colts, and I'm

486
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: going to answer the question, if you want to look

487
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: at the Colts in general and the demise and the

488
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: nine on eight and the nine and eight, it really

489
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: comes down layer to two things. On offense, we can't

490
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: pass it well enough, which I'm not going to get

491
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: into today unless you want me to. But and on defense,

492
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: we have not been able to stop the pass. And

493
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: this goes way back in four years. In four years

494
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: in the prior regime, we are thirty second. There is

495
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: no bottom. There's nobody lower in past percentage against, which

496
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: is a bad place to be. Bad past percentages lead

497
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: to losing twenty six this year in the red zone

498
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, in fourth quarter points given up, we couldn't

499
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: hold leads twenty fifth, an all time low of thirty

500
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: three in the last four years, and thirty second and

501
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: defending tight ends. So you know, Gus and company have

502
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot. You know, they have a lot to address

503
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: now what they are, what they do have is that

504
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: they do have a culture that goes to the football.

505
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: They have a culture of guys that play hard. So

506
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: that's a good starting point. But from an X and

507
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: O standpoint, to me, it was substandard. I was never

508
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: a fan and will not be a fan. This has

509
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: a chance to be a lot better because you're exactly right.

510
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: You need variants in this league. And that's where to me,

511
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: the experience coaching staff. You don't want somebody that is

512
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: so trained to a system that that's all they can do.

513
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: I mean that we suffered here, and I think the

514
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: fact that they have experienced people he has experienced. If

515
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: you remember, if you guys remember and JJ, you'll probably

516
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: remember this. Gus did a great job against Lamar Jackson

517
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: when he was at San Diego with a seven defensive backs.

518
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: Get that that was, you know, a very very creative way.

519
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: And they probably did the best job. I remember looking

520
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: at the tape back then. So yeah, I think they're

521
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna bring more what I call X and O expertise.

522
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: That to me, it's not even close. And when I

523
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: watched the Raiders, even though they weren't any good, if

524
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: you watch them, they really go hard to the ball

525
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: as well, So those principles will carry over. I think

526
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: they hit harder than we do. We spend so much

527
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: time stripping balls that we walk right by tackles. And

528
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: I think you have to find the happy medium. And

529
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: as long as you have Leonard, you're gonna have a

530
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: lot of turnovers. Let's let's face it. That's I think

531
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: that's a product more Leonard than it is scheme. So

532
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, I look these guys. That the thing about it, Larow,

533
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: as you asked the question from OTA's on the advantage

534
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: you have hell half these staffs in the National Football League,

535
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: they've got hit coaches that haven't even had a cup

536
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 1: of coffee in the league, much less coordinators. These guys

537
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: are ready to go. These guys are battle tested for decades.

538
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: So you know, I is you know, is this going

539
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: to be a Buddy Ryan's system? No, But I think

540
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be very very solid, great leadership, good teachers.

541
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: I really look forward to it. Coach. One of the

542
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: things that Coach Bradley touched on too was being able

543
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: to effectively get pressure up front and then have that

544
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: trust on the back end. That every layer of your

545
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: defense has to be in sync and trust one another,

546
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: and you have to be able to be effective in

547
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: disrupting a quarterback in a number of different ways, not

548
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: just with sacks, with hits, with pressures, just disrupting his

549
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: timing all in general. When you talk about the improvements

550
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: that you need to see within this defense, are those

551
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: things that can be done with the personnel you already

552
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: have in place within the locker room? From a players standpoint,

553
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: based on the coaches who are coming in, Gus Bradley

554
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: and many developing, what is here or how many needs

555
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: need to be addressed outside in other aspects? Do you

556
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: think that this defense, in order to make some strides,

557
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: is going to have to address those address those elsewhere

558
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: in terms of maybe free agency or draft at various positions. Yeah,

559
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: that's really that's really the sixty four thousand dollars question, um,

560
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: And you know, the question essentially is are we good

561
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: enough with Quitti pay and to Ree and Lewis if

562
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: he gets healthy, uh, you know, and and dango inside

563
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: with Buckner? Of course, are we good enough to play

564
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: with an improved scheme? Or are those guys not as

565
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: good as we hoped? And then we have to exchange it. Well,

566
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: first of all, you know you're going to explore the

567
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: free agency market. We don't have much draft capital, obviously

568
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: losing that one. Most of those great rushers are investment picks. Uh.

569
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: You don't normally get those guys down the line in

570
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: the draft, obviously, Robert, this is an exception, but by

571
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: and large, in today's game, felt great. Those great rushers

572
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: come with either investments in the draft or guys like

573
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: Henderson that Hendrickson that Cincinnati did a great job of

574
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: signing and brought fifteen and a half sacks to the table.

575
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: Lara I coached. I look at the game a little

576
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: bit different than normal people do in that I came

577
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: from the back end of the defense. Okay, I you know,

578
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: I started out as a defensive backfield coach, linebacker coach coordinator,

579
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: but primarily a secondary guy and nickel coverages and match coverages,

580
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: and I it's hard for me to answer your question

581
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: straight up. I'm going to be a little nuanced on this.

582
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: I actually think that if Toure is healthy and Lewis

583
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: is healthy, and Quitty is healthy and develops, that you've

584
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: got a little bit better group than we think we do. Okay,

585
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: I do, And I think that Dao, you know, will

586
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: row as well. I think it might be a better group.

587
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: Here's what I think. One of the problems is everybody

588
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: says rush affects coverage, but coverage affects rush on Sunday,

589
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: and this is what I mean by that. One of

590
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: the things that I've despised about this system for four

591
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: years is that it always allowed free access by receivers,

592
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: tight ends backs wide receivers. You very seldom ever saw

593
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: anybody collision, even when we bump and run. We taught

594
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: that crappy backout technique, and we never put our hands

595
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: on anybody on the line of scrimmage. So essentially receivers

596
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: are running free into your secondary on the first level

597
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: of the pattern. We also, now we got a little

598
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: bit better at the end of last year, but we

599
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: did never match harder. We played that dungee zone area zone,

600
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: and so there's cracks, there's seams in that zone. And

601
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: the problem is, Lara, is they open quickly. When you

602
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: give free access. The guys get to their spots quickly.

603
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: So there's so many passes in the course of the

604
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: season where a quarterback hits the back foot and gets

605
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: the ball out. He knows exactly where he's going. There

606
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: was no creativity. He can get it out and throw it.

607
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Okay, if we can tighten the philosophy

608
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: of coverage, if we can bump and run and a

609
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: jet and make people get off that first level, and

610
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: even that you may not knock them down, but you

611
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: make them take time to get out. When guys come

612
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: inside your zones, turn into man to man. That's what

613
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: I refer to as hard match coverage. If we can

614
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: do those things, then what you do is you force

615
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback to go from a first phase to a

616
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: second phase, which buys you milliseconds, okay, which to me

617
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: then helps your rush. I would hate to be the

618
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: defensive line coach in that class system. We just coach

619
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: because well, it got our guy fired, there's no question

620
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: about it. But the problem is is guys are open

621
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: on the spot quickly, with very little coverage underneath. And

622
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: that I mean, we've got linebackers that can cover, for

623
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: God's sakes, it's not a I mean, if if our

624
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: linebackers can do one thing, it's they can cover. So

625
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: there's no question that you can get them to play tighter.

626
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: So you know, again, I'm not sure in my own

627
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: heart how good those guys are, but my hunches they're

628
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: a little bit better, and we think they are so

629
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: reck we've kind of got into the weeds on it here,

630
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: and this is a really, really good detailed analysis of

631
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: what Colts fans will see differently on the field when

632
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: it comes to Gus Bradley's defense versus Matt Eberflus's defense.

633
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: But at its base level, how have you seen Gus

634
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: Bradley's Cover three defense evolve over the last you know,

635
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: thirteen years or so, Because what he told Lara and

636
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: I yesterday was that you know, the different things you

637
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: do with match coverages and just some other wrinkles that

638
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: you develop over the years. Like Lara mentioned, you try

639
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Speaker 1: to stay one step ahead of these incredible quarterbacks like

640
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Speaker 1: a Mahomes, which I mean because you know, poor guy's

641
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: gone up against for five consecutive years with those wrinkles

642
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: that he's able to have, how do you see him

643
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: drawing upon those to fit his scheme to the players

644
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: that are in place Specifically, you know, I guess we're

645
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Speaker 1: if we're talking about the back end, we're talking about

646
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: Julian Blackman, Curry, Willis, Kenny Moore, the second rock has

647
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: seen Isaiah Rodgers, those guys in the back end. Well,

648
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: you know, that's a good question. But you know, and

649
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: and basically, I think technique wise, Ron Miless, if easy

650
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: as the secondary coach, if in fact that you know

651
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: that prophecy is fulfilled, he'll do a better job coach

652
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: in those corners. First of all, in press covers, I

653
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: don't know how that technique tripled in here. I think

654
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: it was the Minnesota influence on that first group of coaches.

655
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: But our bump and run technique has been a back out.

656
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: You can take any film you want to take it out.

657
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: Look at us in press, and the first steps are

658
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: always backwards. They're never square on the line with a

659
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: Nick Saban type of press. Never. Okay, as far as

660
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Speaker 1: the three deep in the back end, the three deep

661
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: in the back end is not that different. You play

662
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: three deep in the back end where the nuance comes. Okay,

663
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: here's where the difference is. The nuance comes in the

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Speaker 1: underneath coverage. Okay, whereas the Colts would play a Cover three,

665
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: it would be three D four under area zone period.

666
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: You could see it every Friday night in Indianapolis high

667
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: school football. You go to any game and you could

668
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: see it aria zone area three deep behind it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: when you look at the Seattle nuance, if you want to,

670
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that because I think that

671
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: Gus is much deeper than that. But if we're specifically

672
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: talking about Cover three, here's the nuance that you see.

673
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: At times. You're gonna see what just looks like a

674
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: Cover three if you're a novice. But what you might

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00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: be looking at is a loaded three strong with a

676
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: Manda man week Okay, by that, I mean your nickel

677
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: or your strong safety, whoever it is is in the flat.

678
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: Then we've got strong side coverage to the strong side.

679
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: But on the mat on the back side, we're straight

680
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: man to man back there with a press. Now, that's

681
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: one way you load it strong. But you match guys

682
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: come into your zone, you take him right now, you

683
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: make that quarterback. Wait a little bit. You make those

684
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: guys work to get open, and then you have the

685
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: man side. Now, the next time you see Cover three,

686
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: rather than it being the strong safety down or the

687
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: nickel down, you'll see the weak side safety who looks

688
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: like he's in quarters. He will come in late into

689
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: the box and he'll play the inside hook, which we

690
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: call buzz coverage, and then they'll match watch that and

691
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: play man on the strong side. So it is, you know,

692
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: it's not visible to the normal guy, a normal fan

693
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Speaker 1: watching game, but that those are the nuances that make

694
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: that makes quarterbacks hold the ball in that sense, you know.

695
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: And plus the eight man front is also set up

696
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: to play the great mobile quarterbacks as we go, and

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00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: Gus and those guys, they can play Smaria zones if

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00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: they have to. If you're playing the running quarterback, who's

699
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: going to take off and run every time he sees

700
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: man to man coverage. So I think they'll be able

701
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: to blend that. But the nuance is not going to

702
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: be so visible in the back end as it is

703
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: when you watch the underneath coverage. To me, where the

704
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: NFL is may where you make it or break it. Coach,

705
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: We've seen some guys go into coordinator roles after having

706
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: experience at the head coaching level, and it seems that

707
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: it's been beneficial in certain situations of having that understanding

708
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: of the head coaching role and then being in a

709
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: coordinator role and being able to compliment your head coach.

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00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: And one of the things that Coach Bradley touched on

711
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: is really being able to know the message that Coach

712
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: Mike is trying to deliver and then reiterating that within

713
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: his defense and those two working together in compliment in

714
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: building offense, defense, in game planning and all of those facets.

715
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 1: And I mean, when you think about Coach Bradley, he's

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Speaker 1: probably one of those guys with these head coaching roles

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00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: a plethora of which we're available this offseason in consideration

718
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: in those spots as well with the turnover that we're seeing,

719
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: and you mentioned it, so many of the guys who

720
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: are now in head coaching capacities coming from coordinator roles

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily have head coaching experience. Well, the AFC South

722
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: a bit of an anomaly and that with Doug Peterson

723
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: going to Jacksonville Levey Smith in Houston, but some of

724
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: these other areas. It's really interesting the trends that we

725
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: have seen in the hiring of different head coaches and

726
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: different franchises having varying philosophies in the type of young

727
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: talent that they are targeting for these roles. How much

728
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Speaker 1: of a home run does that make Gus Bradley given

729
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Speaker 1: how competitive it was with all of these head coaching

730
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: vacancies and the great amount of turnover that there is

731
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Speaker 1: in this era of the NFL. OH home run is

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Speaker 1: actually the great way to phrase it. There is any

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Speaker 1: question about it. And you know what, in a funny way,

734
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Speaker 1: in a perverse way, Josh McDaniels is the gift that

735
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Speaker 1: keeps on giving. I mean by him backing out of

736
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: the coach job he gave us Frank and now by

737
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: him somehow stealing the Raiders job that made Gus available.

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Speaker 1: Initially I didn't consider Gus because I didn't I thought

739
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: that Basachi would get the job, to be honest with you.

740
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: But then you know, when Nick Daniels got it, that

741
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: made him available. So again, he's the gift that keeps

742
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: on giving. But oh, it's it's a home run, you know.

743
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: And I chronicled before the experience that those bring to

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00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: the table. I mean, look, I mean no disrespect to

745
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: the guy from the Niners that just got the job

746
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: of the of the Miami Dolphins. He is a coordinator

747
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: in name only. He for one year. He's never called

748
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: the plan in National Football League. My first thought when

749
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: I looked at him was that's where Don Shula coached.

750
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, that's where Jimmy Johnson coach. Is that that guy?

751
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and even love you, I mean, I like

752
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: love you as a person, but what a process that was.

753
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know in Chicago Bears they have to

754
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: hire a consultant to hire a head coach. You tell

755
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: me you would have done that twenty years ago. I mean,

756
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: and basically what's happened, Lair, is that with you. What

757
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: you see today is a deficiency in coaches, in coaching

758
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: prospects at every level, head coach coordinator. It just as dominoes.

759
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 1: It goes all the way down because in the last

760
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: five or six years, you're turning over eight or nine

761
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: jobs every year. That's twenty five percent of the league.

762
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: And so you can't keep up with the training. I mean,

763
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: back in the eighties and nineties, in early two thousands,

764
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: you didn't get a coordinator's job until you had coached

765
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: the position for years, much less a head coaching job.

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00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: This is absolutely crazy what I see happening in the

767
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: league today. But and you know what, it's good for

768
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 1: us because we have a strong franchise from topton bottom.

769
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: But I really believe there's about twenty two to twenty

770
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: three franchises that really don't have a clue. And that's

771
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: why these guys hired. In other words, if you're if

772
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: you ride the bus, if you're on the bus with

773
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, if you're a passenger for fifteen minutes, you're

774
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: probably gonna get ahead job next year. If you're an

775
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: offensive guy. I needed just it's unbelievable and not I mean,

776
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: obviously it's proven that pedigree is good. Zach is in

777
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl of Laflores. Do job. Now we're going

778
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: to get the guy at Minnesota. I mean it's but

779
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: it's you know, and all of a sudden, the guy

780
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: gets the job of the Miami Dolphins because he was

781
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: on the bus with Shanahan. And see that's a that

782
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: is a common mistake. Pedigree can be a common mistake.

783
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: Look at the the the Houston, Texans, for instance, they

784
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: hire the GM from from New England. They think that

785
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, they're getting Bill Belichi. You're not getting Bill Belichick.

786
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: You're getting that guy. And so it's encouraging to me

787
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: because I have faith, even though we stumbled at the end,

788
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: I have faith in our hierarchy all the way down

789
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: to do the right thing. And so when you fast

790
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: forward to Gus, you're looking at all these guys getting jobs,

791
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: and you're right about Peterson. Everybody laughed at that, and

792
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: that's one of the best hires in the league. The

793
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: guys won a Super Bowl as a head coach. For

794
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: God's sakes, you're right on that. But you know, you

795
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: go then you go to Gus. You get a guy

796
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: that is a proven coordinator, has had the level of

797
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: success every place he's been. He can bring a staff

798
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: in between them all we probably have narrow hundred yards

799
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: one hundred years of experience in the NFL. I'd say

800
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: that's a home run. All right, coach, we got one

801
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: more for you, and we would be completely not doing

802
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: our jobs if we didn't ask you about the Super Bowl,

803
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: because we talked about it. Matey La and I in

804
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: the first segment, and none of us have coached in

805
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: the NFL, but you have. So what are you looking

806
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: for in the Super Bowl? And just give me a

807
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: couple of matchups that Colts fans are gonna be watching

808
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: the game. They're gonna be eating their wings, drinking their beverages.

809
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: What are you watching when you're not watching the ball

810
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl? Just give me two or three matchups. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you know, let me just say this

812
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: is these two teams, even analytically and statistically, are a

813
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: lot closer than I thought. I mean, there's really don't

814
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: get me wrong. Analytically and statistically, the advantage goes to

815
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: the Rams, but it's narrow. In most cases, it's very narrow.

816
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: It's much more narrow than you think. Okay, Now, both

817
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: teams struggle to run the football, and I'm going to

818
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: answer your question here most team the both teams struggle

819
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: to run the football, and both teams have ferocious pass rushes.

820
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: Obviously the Rams, it's Darnel's Floyd and von Miller, and

821
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: then you know with Cincinnati it's the great move to

822
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: get Hendrickson fifteen and a half hovered. So both teams

823
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: have really good pass rushes both teams have don't run

824
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: the ball very well. Now, the only place where the

825
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: two teams separate really is in pass protection. Okay, this

826
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: is where there's a huge gap. And this is what

827
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to get into matchups. Okay, if you look

828
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: at the Bengals, like I said, underrated defense better than

829
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: I thought. Okay, Obviously both teams have great skill players

830
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: on the outside, but from a sack standpoint, Cincinnati's thirtieth

831
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: and that's with it that can move and he is

832
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: erasd a lot of issues. We saw the nine sacks

833
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: and still win the game against Tennessee where the Rams

834
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: are fifth. So that's the one area. So if Cincinnati

835
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: is gonna win the game, okay, the first thing that

836
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: they've got to do is they've got to win the

837
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: matchup with Aaron Donald as a team Okay. And the

838
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: way they're going to have to do that to me

839
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: because they're right guards. You want to talk about match

840
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: a Deni and Carmen and then Princes at right tackle,

841
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: but just those two guards, a Deni seventy seven or

842
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: Carmen seventy nine, they're in a battle for who's the

843
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: worst guard. And then National Football they okay, it's a question.

844
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: It's just a battle between the two of them. So

845
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: you're sitting there looking at Aaron Donald. So the one

846
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: thing you can't let happen is you can't let the

847
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: Rams get a lead, get a head and account and

848
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: just put their hands in the dirt and rushed, because

849
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: he will be in your backfield every single down. So

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to slow him down with runs. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think screens are really important. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball quick and move Joe if you're gonna win,

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Speaker 1: because if you don't, if they get behind an account,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the Rams are really really good. And

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Speaker 1: from that standpoint, you know, and I think that the

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Speaker 1: thing that since he has to do. And I may

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Speaker 1: have said this before, I've done a lot of interviews lately.

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Speaker 1: I think that the coordinator at Cincinnati did just a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal job of adjustin in the second half. And the

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Speaker 1: big thing here is you've got to take away Cooper cup.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why people don't understand that. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: particularly on the big play. If he has a lot

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Speaker 1: of catches, but the yardage is down and the touchdowns

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Speaker 1: are down, that's a big thing. You've got to be

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Speaker 1: able to compete with Beckham on the fifty fifty ball,

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Speaker 1: and then you've got to keep coming if you get ahead.

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Speaker 1: I think the offensive line of the Rams actually struggles,

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Speaker 1: and I really I love the two quarterbacks. I think

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Speaker 1: that Joe Burrows is Tom Brady with wheels, and I

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Speaker 1: love Stafford. I've always thought that Stafford was the most

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Speaker 1: underrated player quarterback in the league. But the one thing

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Speaker 1: about Stafford, there's one His accuracy is beyond belief. They

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Speaker 1: came over and worked against Stuffs three or four years

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Speaker 1: ago there. I don't know if you remember, I do,

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Speaker 1: and I watched. I watched our offense for one day

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00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: and then I watched our defense and the day I

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Speaker 1: watched our defense against Stafford, I don't think the ball

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00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: ever hit the ground, j J. I don't, I really don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen a guy more accurate and tough.

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00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: But one thing he's developed by playing with bad teams

881
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: is that he will try to make the play no

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00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: matter what, and every once in a while he will

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00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: sling it into a pepper rally. He just will. And

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Speaker 1: so it's really important if since he can just keep

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Speaker 1: that thing down, keep that ball in the box, nothing big,

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00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: make him work, and then apply pressure off the edges

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00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: with Hendrickston and Hobbard and then somehow get him to

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00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: turn it over because as it has he's been statistically

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00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: and numerically there are a lot of a lot of

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00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: interceptions in his background. So again, statistically, you know, and analytically,

891
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: it would be hard to bet against the Rams. But

892
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: those Bengals and Joe, they've got that mojo going. You

893
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: just you know, that was a hum Monk's win an

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00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: arrowhead to be honest with you, all right, well that

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00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: is really really good stuff. As always from our guy

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Speaker 1: coach Rick vent Terry Rick, thanks for spending some time

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Speaker 1: with Lara and I today. Well, I really enjoy it.

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00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: I miss Lara and Matt every weekend. We are we

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00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: are a team of teams, and so all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden and then after this weekend, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do on my Sundays, but I'll probably be

902
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: down on the beach ride my motorcycle. Hey, why don't

903
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: we just run it back. We'll do our own broadcast

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Speaker 1: of the game. We'll just saddle up there at Lucas

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Speaker 1: Oil Stadium. We'll use the control room, we'll put the

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Speaker 1: head stets on, and we'll call the game key Stevens

907
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: das Buca Debapo. Sounds great. We've gotten so good at that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't even matter to me anymore. I

909
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: just show off when we do the game. Hey, one thing,

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Speaker 1: One thing I want to know though, go to Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl snack if you're at home, if you're watching a game,

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00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: kicking your feet up at Miss Sherry's hanging out too.

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Speaker 1: What are you guys making up on Super Bowl Sunday?

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Speaker 1: Are you sticking to your room temperature Coca cola and

915
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: your ham sandwich there? Well, no, we'll probably do a

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00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: little bit better that. Okay, that game day go to

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Speaker 1: by the way, I gotta let you in on at

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Speaker 1: the blowny sandwich and the Graham crackers. That that's that's

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Speaker 1: kind of my bland during the game nervousness. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's my resource center. But this normally the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: is good chili that is cooked all day long and

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Speaker 1: I love it by six o'clock. You know that homemade

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00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: stuff pretty good? All right? Beef chili, turkey chili. What

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Speaker 1: are we talking about? Uh, it'll be beef chili. It'll

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Speaker 1: be loaded that it's it's a super Bowl, We're not

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Speaker 1: having chili. Come on, okay, all right, thanks Coach Shanks,

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Speaker 1: coach all right, guys, all right. That has been it

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Speaker 1: for this episode of the Colts Official Podcast here on

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Speaker 1: the Colts Audio Network. Please rate, review, and subscribe to

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00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: the Colts Audio Network wherever you get your podcast, drop

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Speaker 1: us a five star review, and be on the lookout

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Speaker 1: for more episodes of Overtime in the coming days and weeks.

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Speaker 1: We had one with Gus Bradley where Lara and I

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Speaker 1: sat down with him. Please check that out. That should

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Speaker 1: be in your podcast feeds if you haven't already anyways.

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Speaker 1: For Lara Overton, Matt Taylor, coach Rick Venturry, and myself

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Speaker 1: JJ Stankobitz, thank you so much for listening to this

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Speaker 1: episode of the Colts Official Podcast, presented by win Bet.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week.