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Speaker 1: I'm a little little bit like, WHOA, how's this about

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Speaker 2: Because I am so brain dead.

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Speaker 3: Excuse I mean, you're lucky, I said, I'm so ty,

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Speaker 3: You're lucky. I woke up for this, I know.

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Speaker 2: So we had Hello people. Hello.

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Speaker 1: It is Friday and last week, but we're recording early

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Speaker 1: because I'm traveling this week and last week in Nashville

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Speaker 1: was CMA Fest, and Chip and I basically got our

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Speaker 1: assay to do us work what it.

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Speaker 2: Is it is, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think overall, this year's CMA Fest was such a

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Speaker 1: like fun. Also, yeah, it felt like a very positive vibe.

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Speaker 1: It also felt like CMA Fest was back after covid

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Speaker 1: it last year. It did not feel like that, and

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Speaker 1: it felt a little scary to me to be like, WHOA,

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Speaker 3: Energy? This year was lit. It was how loud the

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Speaker 1: Yes, this year was lit. Our city was just thriving.

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Speaker 1: I would say we had great weather. It wasn't too hot,

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Speaker 2: But there was.

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Speaker 1: Definitely like a different level of exhaustion that comes after

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Speaker 2: I gotta give it to you though, Chip, I.

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Speaker 1: Was literally thinking about this this morning. We so we

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Speaker 1: told you, brain fart. They host the like big stadiums show.

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Speaker 1: I work expdently. You work with el King, and so

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Speaker 1: it was like we were together a lot this week

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Speaker 1: because they were doing it together, which is always really fun.

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Speaker 1: But like I by Sunday especially was so low vibe,

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Speaker 2: She's like, oh wow.

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Speaker 1: Just like super negative, suck the energy out of the room.

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Speaker 1: Like I felt like that was me. I just could

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Speaker 1: not you didn't, Okay. I was trying really hard to

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Speaker 3: You're like, please, I need a shield.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I literally want to live in a bubble. But

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Speaker 1: so anyway, by Sunday, I was like very depleted. You

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Speaker 1: every time, Like you just had such a positive energy

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Speaker 3: Well. I mean, I'm glad I was able to hide

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Speaker 3: how bad my feet were hurting.

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Speaker 2: Oh is that what it was?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was just like when you stand

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't that make you feel old? Old to

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Speaker 3: Yes, but you know what I'm doing right after this,

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Speaker 3: going to get a foot massage.

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Speaker 1: You should y The first day, Oh look at it,

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Speaker 3: Hips, I was like needed replacement.

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Speaker 1: Literally, probably could have gotten a replacement. Yeah, sign me

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, what are those drive through ones? You know?

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Speaker 1: Derek's always talks about like when he sits in the

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, wouldn't that be amazing, like a car

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Speaker 1: So anyway, we just had we had a week, but

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Speaker 3: We had fun little surprises.

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Speaker 1: There were some fun surprises, which sort of actually is

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Speaker 1: I would say Miranda brought a couple. She had Leon

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Speaker 3: By the way, that new song of Theirs is fire.

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Speaker 2: So here's what we want to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: When I was sitting there in the dressing room before

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Speaker 3: Conspiracy theorist.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about conspiracy theories today and the Okay,

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Speaker 1: so the topic this month is the word confront and

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Speaker 1: we have also talked about like the edge has just

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, the thing is, conspiracy theories exist because

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what we're going to do today.

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Speaker 3: Right, that throwback thing, like yeah, remember when mister Belding

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Speaker 3: So when was working with him, Yeah, he was around

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Speaker 1: With, Like exactly, yeah, like we see these other huge celebrities.

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Speaker 1: We would have gotten wind via Miranda's camp that this

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Speaker 1: She's so trained over the years to be like I

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is is Avril has you know, either

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Speaker 3: then like like the teenage Kelly would have fucking died

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god, because like I'm dying

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Speaker 1: if it's just Avril, why has Avril not done a

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Speaker 2: Do a YouTube. It would go viral.

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Speaker 3: Except what if Melissa doesn't exist at all and it's

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Speaker 2: Feel like Melissa. I feel like she's real.

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Speaker 3: This is why conspiracy theories take because there's always just

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Speaker 1: Apparently Avril has played into it a little bit, Like

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Speaker 3: I think she's got a Melissa tattoo.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we'll see. But like she's getting another

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Speaker 3: I think it's funny.

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Speaker 1: Melissa's like that's her way to like, you know, what

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Speaker 1: She's like, I'm gonna get this old name tattooed on

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Speaker 2: I love that you're just giggling, Melissa.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if she's Avril, she has to live as

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Speaker 3: Weird because it means there's two deaths in this situation.

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Speaker 3: Aril's dead and so is the old Melissa, Old Melissa,

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Speaker 1: I actually know the girl who did her glam and

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it's Melissa, I think it's so ironclad

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Speaker 3: I guess, or maybe they killed them. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: Maybe she was an orphan, Like wow, okay, I mean

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Speaker 3: this is like, you know, I'm sure we could go

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Speaker 2: We're on one. I think that's what this is.

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Speaker 3: Oh God, this was supposed to be my day off.

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Speaker 2: Not your journey down rabbit hole.

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Speaker 3: Now when I have to like get on the internet

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Speaker 2: There obviously be doing all day.

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Speaker 3: First day, you're gonna be like, is anyone there from Chip?

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Speaker 3: You're like, let me check that rabbit hole.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just going to call you and be like,

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Speaker 2: Melissa Ribbit.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a frog. No, never mind, Rabbits don't make noise.

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Speaker 1: People won't just let it go. Like the Tupac one

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Speaker 3: It be hard, yeah, because you're like I would like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. There's one about Paul McCartney. Do you know

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Speaker 1: That one would make me very sad because I love

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Speaker 3: Now, well, here's the thing. Tell us, Paul McCartney, like,

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Speaker 3: Like that is you can't replace that, and he's continued

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Speaker 3: I'm not buying it.

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Speaker 1: I don't buy it, I know, but if whoever, if

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm obsessa with James Cordon. I'm sad

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Speaker 1: To me, he feels like that, and so it would

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Speaker 2: But they did say They say that.

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Speaker 1: The real Paul McCartney was killed in a car crash

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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven and has been replaced by a

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Speaker 1: looklike Yeah, it says the proof crazy. This article we

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Speaker 1: says the proof playing Revolution nine backwards, various song lyrics,

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Speaker 3: He frequently attends basketball games a falling mic stand. He

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Speaker 1: Okay, took a photo is ridiculous because anyone can just

444
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Speaker 1: snap a camera like he could. The mic standing is interesting.

445
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Speaker 1: I mean, this brings me back to Blessing And remember

446
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: what I did a couple of weeks ago where I

447
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: was like, can you see the chair over there? And

448
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: he's like, no, no, actually no, Kelly, Okay, you.

449
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 3: Know there's no context here, like he could have kicked

450
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Speaker 3: it and felt the force of it.

451
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Speaker 1: What I was going to say is Blessing's instincts and

452
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: his other senses are so much higher than anyone else's

453
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Like he hears, he can hear, he

454
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: hears everything that's happening in the room at all times

455
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 1: because he's so alert to that, Like he feels energy

456
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: in different ways, like all the things. So the mic

457
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Speaker 1: stand to me is that like he just felt. Yeah,

458
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Speaker 1: he could have kicked it. Like you said, the basketball

459
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Speaker 1: game is.

460
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Speaker 3: Babe into him.

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Speaker 1: You know, wait, we don't know, we know nothing. We

462
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Speaker 1: more context. The basketball game thing is dumb too, because

463
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Speaker 1: it's like he could just like the excitement of being there.

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Speaker 2: Right.

465
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Speaker 3: Deaf people go to concerts, right and they felt sign

466
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Speaker 3: language because they feel it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's vibration. It's like you didn't pick up a

468
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Speaker 1: marking mark.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it.

470
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 3: I got you.

471
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Speaker 2: Just try to move on. You're like to try to

472
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Speaker 2: just let's get past this.

473
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Speaker 3: Let's get she's shown her, she's shown her age, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not buying Stevie. Wonder if it if it

475
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Speaker 1: was true, that's like the biggest sweet killed to all

476
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Speaker 1: of us of all times.

477
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Speaker 3: I mean, right, how can I differentiate myself? I know

478
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 3: I'll be blind.

479
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: Like what, oh my god, there's like.

480
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 3: I never have to like do like real makeup stuff

481
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 3: on my eyes. I'll just throw some dark glasses on.

482
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 3: Like it's great. I can roll out of bed after

483
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Speaker 3: an all nighter, play a fake vocal. Shit, I can

484
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Speaker 3: even die.

485
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Speaker 2: Die.

486
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: Well.

487
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Speaker 3: I'm just like saying like clearly, like it's okay to

488
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: be famous and you just die because they just replace you, you.

489
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Speaker 2: Know, oh, right with an actor.

490
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Speaker 3: I wonder why they haven't replaced Prince yet.

491
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Speaker 2: I know that would have been a good.

492
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Speaker 3: Celebrities that I wish they would have replaced over. I mean,

493
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Speaker 3: as much as I love Avril Levine, like, I would

494
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Speaker 3: much rather have Prince still with us. Wow, I mean sorry, yeah.

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Speaker 1: That would have been a good one. Maybe there was

496
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Speaker 1: no person who looked just like him. Yeah, his talent

497
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Speaker 1: is like so next level, Like how do you even

498
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Speaker 1: fake that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? That's I guess.

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Speaker 1: So did you read about the Katie jean Benet Perry one?

501
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Speaker 3: No, Katie Jeanne. Wait a minute, they think that Katy

502
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Speaker 3: Perry is John Ramsey.

503
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Speaker 1: Correct, they said the theory John Bidet Ramsey Ramsey. See

504
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: this is where I start to feel a little guilty,

505
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Speaker 1: Like this family lost a child and here we are.

506
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Speaker 2: Like the murder crazy theory.

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Speaker 1: Right, John Maine Ramsey was not murdered in nineteen ninety

508
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Speaker 1: six and actually grew up to be a multi platinum

509
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Speaker 1: recording artist.

510
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Speaker 2: Katy Perry.

511
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Speaker 1: The proof overlapping photos of Katy Perry and Jomene Ramsey overlapping.

512
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Speaker 3: People believe that this was one guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I even tried to click that link. Who

514
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: believes that this one guy and that link no longer exists?

515
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: So right, Yeah, they said Katy Perry's parents and JOm

516
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: Maine parents Ramsey's parents. I guess they look alike, and

517
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Speaker 1: Katy Perry could definitely resemble that child.

518
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Speaker 3: Yeah, also looks like Paula Deine. Like there's a me

519
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: that like has Katy Perry's face on Pauladine's head and

520
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 3: it looks like Pauladine. I'll send it to you.

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Speaker 1: What's okay, that's weird. Did I ever tell you about

522
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: the time I worked with Pauladine?

523
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Speaker 3: No? I love her though, Oh.

524
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: My god, she's so funny and so aggressive. We were

525
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: working on this, like he was at a Harri's casino

526
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: in Mississippi and she had opened a restaurant, like a

527
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Speaker 1: Palladine restaurant, and like she needed a touch up, and

528
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Speaker 1: I had walked away, and she goes, where's my makeup?

529
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: Bitch? Like what is this world? I'm getting called that way?

530
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so everyone was like, makeup bitch. Oh wow, that

531
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Speaker 1: photo of Pauladine Katie, I mean yes, and no, that

532
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: nose is very different I'm gonna put this picture in

533
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Speaker 1: the link of this podcast for you guys, just for

534
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: your shit to giggles. Got Okay, there was one that

535
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: you did talk about that happened in Canada. But this

536
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: is switching away from the celebrity. This is like, obviously

537
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: we're very aware that there are some real deal conspiracy theories,

538
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: and then this one was interesting because it was proven true.

539
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean there are some that you know,

540
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 3: were that are true and then they become real conspiracies,

541
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: which you know, again gives weight to conspiracy theories because

542
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: it's you know, if there's ever something that like you

543
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: don't trust the government for and it turns out to

544
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: be true, then it's it gives you know, a little

545
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: bit more credence to these crazy ideas like yeah, you

546
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: know Beyonce is Solange's mother. Oh, it's so crazy. But

547
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: there was a conspiracy theory or conspiracy that the Canadian

548
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 3: government was so paranoid about homosexuality that it developed a

549
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Speaker 3: gate ar machine. What year from this was in the sixties,

550
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Speaker 3: So this is from Reader's Digest, and the truth was

551
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: it really happened in the nineteen sixties. The government hired

552
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Speaker 3: a university professor to develop and detect a way to

553
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: detect homosexuality in federal employees. He came up with a

554
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 3: machine that measured the people dilation in response to same

555
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: sex erotic imagery. The government then used it to exclude

556
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: or find more than four hundred men from civil service,

557
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: the military, and the Mounties, which is what they call

558
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: their police. The American government is also guilty. And they had,

559
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: you know, some other operations that were similar to this.

560
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Speaker 2: What crazy, So it was a pill they took.

561
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: No, No, it was a machine, so I guess they

562
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 3: would probably be looking into this machine. And then they

563
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 3: were shown gay porn and if your eyes dilated a

564
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 3: certain way, arousal and they would fire you.

565
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous though, because people could be stimulated by sex,

566
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: like regardless of your sexuality.

567
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Speaker 2: It's just like sex, you know.

568
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Speaker 1: What I mean?

569
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course here or just nervousness.

570
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: Nervousness, right, we.

571
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: Get nervous during sex too. Okay, here's another one that

572
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: turned out to be There is alien evidence in the

573
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Speaker 3: American Southwest. The conspiracy is that et is buried in

574
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Speaker 3: the desert of New Mexico. This is true, but it's different.

575
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: The Atari game for et from the movie failed so

576
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: miserably that the Atari buried a bunch of copies of

577
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Speaker 3: it in New Mexico.

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00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I gotcha, picked us, gotcha going back to

579
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: the Gator. Did you ever see that episode of the Office?

580
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 3: No?

581
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, okay. I was so weird that this

582
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: came up on this podcast because I've been watching like

583
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: the Superfan episodes. So the thing about other thing about

584
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: CMAFS is it's really late nights and it's like you're

585
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: so tired, you know, you get home, it's like after

586
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: midnight whatever. You're so tired, but you're so overstimulated that

587
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: you can't go to sleep, and so I try to

588
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 1: put on something mindless to like wind down or whatever.

589
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: And so I've been watching The Office, the Superfan episodes.

590
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: That show is so funny. It's so ridiculously inappropriate, though,

591
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't know that they could have gotten away

592
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: with it in this right, like they got away with

593
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: a lot yea, But it was all in fun and

594
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: like in humor. You can you know that they they're

595
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: making fun of how inappropriate what they're saying is, of course, yeah,

596
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: it's so it makes it less offensive.

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00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, what's the what's the word when it's

598
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: like satire?

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00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, So in this one episode, they find out

600
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: that Oscar is gay, and it's this whole thing, like

601
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: Michael tries to normalize it because he made such a

602
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: big deal out of it at first, and he like

603
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: kisses him in front of everyone, like it's all that

604
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: he's like, he's like in see, I'm fine, Like he

605
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: was gonna die if he kissed you know, like it's

606
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: like so ridiculous. But then Dwight, if you guys are

607
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: familiar with the episodes or whatever, Jim isn't working at

608
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Speaker 1: scrant Scranton. I love that I'm giving you guys such

609
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: a detailed description of the office. He's not working in

610
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: the scrant office, so but he still messes with Dwight.

611
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: They have this very like kind of just fuck with

612
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: each other relationship, and so Dwight decides that he has

613
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: to be able to detect who else in the office

614
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: is gay, and so Jim sends him this machine and

615
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: it looks like a metal detector, but he says it's

616
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: a gatar and he has it like to where he

617
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: can walk up to people and it'll be so he

618
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: walks up to Oscar and it kind of beeps. But

619
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: then the twist is that he puts it on himself

620
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: and it's like like somehow Jim rigs it so that

621
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Speaker 1: it goes wild when it's on Dwight, so he's you know,

622
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: do you get it?

623
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

624
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: Anyway, ha ha ha.

625
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: There's always a way to the truth, even if it's

626
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: not the truth, you know.

627
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Speaker 1: Right, all in good fun. Anyway in the office, go

628
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Speaker 1: check out that episode. It's a really good Did you

629
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Speaker 1: have another.

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Speaker 2: One for us?

631
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Speaker 3: Well? I was just gonna well, it was funny because

632
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: when you brought up this topic, it reminded me of

633
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: a conversation that I had with someone at dinner last week.

634
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: And this one isn't necessarily pop culture, I guess it

635
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: is pop culture of the day, okay, but it also

636
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: so leans into politics a little bit, Like it was

637
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 3: just all of these similarities between Lincoln and Kennedy, who

638
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: were both obviously assassinating. Yeah, so I just wanted to

639
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: read through them. It's because it's kind of fun.

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Speaker 2: But it's not really. I've read that it's not a conspiracy.

641
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: Theory theory, but it is just like I think you

642
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: could this the reason why I want to include this

643
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: is because it shows how people can find little things

644
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: that seem like they mean something and.

645
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: You're like, cool, it's just a coincidence.

646
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Lincoln and Kennedy both have seven letters. They were

647
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: both elected in Congress in forty six and then later

648
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: the presidency in sixty In sixty you know, one was

649
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: eighteen forty six, it was nineteen forty six. Both assassins

650
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: were born in thirty nine and were known by three

651
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: names composed of fifteen letters.

652
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: That is weird.

653
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Booth ran from the theater and was caught in

654
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Speaker 3: a warehouse. Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught

655
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: in a theater. They were both Southerners. Both president's successors

656
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: were named Johnson and born in eight Both Lincoln and

657
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: Kennedy were particularly concerned with civil rights and made there's views,

658
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: you know, strongly known. Both presidents were shot in the

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Speaker 3: head on a Friday. Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy

660
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: who told him not to go to Ford's theater. Kennedy

661
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: had a secretary named Evelyn Lincoln and she wanted not

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Speaker 3: going to go to Dallas, and both Oswald and Booth

663
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Speaker 3: were killed before they could be put on trial.

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Speaker 2: This, I mean, it is wild.

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Speaker 3: Some of those things have been debunked, but it's just

666
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: it's it just shows like how easy it is to

667
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: be like, oh, that's there's got to be something there,

668
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: like the government has to be involved in these murders,

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00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: you know, like this has to be Melissa. Yeah, everything

670
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: comes back to Melissa. Guys, if you have any friends

671
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: named Melissa out who they really are, just start calling

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Speaker 3: them Averrol.

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Speaker 1: It also the thing that was popping into my head

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Speaker 1: when you were reading all this the same the coincidences

675
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: or whatever is I wonder if the assassin was it

676
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald with Kennedy, like he could have seen

677
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: the stuff, he could have been modeling his assassination after

678
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln. We don't know, do you know what I mean?

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00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: So it's not really a coincidence. It's more like strategic. Yeah,

681
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: and he's trying to send a message. But we'll never

682
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: know because he was murdered very quickly.

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Speaker 3: After, which is part of the problem of like us,

684
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: you know, sort of glorifying and making you know, these

685
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: terrible criminals like famous for shite, like we should never

686
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: use their names.

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00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: Well that's why they don't.

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Speaker 1: They're not releasing a lot of information about the manifesto

689
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: from the Nashville shooters because they're like, they don't want

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Speaker 1: other people to mimic it, Right, makes.

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Speaker 3: Sense, I know, I agree, well, but you know, this

692
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: has obviously been pretty light, but I do think it

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00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 3: we would be remiss if we didn't like acknowledged the

694
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: fact that like conspiracy theories can actually be really dangerous

695
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: and they're probably listeners that have family members that have

696
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: been sucked into them. There's actual psychology behind why they

697
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: work and why they even know exist, and if you

698
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: have somebody that's struggling with it, it can be a

699
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: really hard thing to navigate. And you can go to

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Speaker 3: the Anti Defamation Leagues website. It's just the ADL dot org,

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00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 3: I believe, okay, and there are resources there that can

702
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: help you sort of navigate that.

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00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: And right, as long as it's work their way out

704
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Speaker 2: of it.

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00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as fon as this topic is, it's sort of

707
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: like anything else in this day and age, where it's

708
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: like there is also the extreme side of it that, Yeah,

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00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: it seems like has kind of been the cause of

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00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: some of the big things that have happened in our

711
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: country over.

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Speaker 2: The last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, definitely, I will link that website in

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Speaker 1: the description of this podcast. If you or anyone you

715
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: know is going through would that be called a struggle

716
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: or just like or kind of facing that maybe you

717
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Speaker 1: want me.

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00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: I do think it's a struggle because you know, there's

719
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: a million examples that I've seen over the last few

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00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: years of like people being like, I don't know my

721
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 3: mother anymore because she's so far down a QAnon rabbit hole,

722
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: right right, so absurd, but she believes it, you know,

723
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: and it's like it's tearing families apart, it's tearing our

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00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: country apart, and you know, it's a it's a real struggle,

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00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: you know. And there is Psycho and this article on

726
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: that show link to, like it breaks down the psychology

727
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 3: of like why they happen, and it's you know, it's

728
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: people need real help from these things.

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Speaker 2: Well it seems very very dangerous, is that part of it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I feel like that, and that's we kind of have

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Speaker 1: been touching on this the last couple of weeks. But

733
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: the media really does play into that too, So I'm

734
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Speaker 1: sure it's exacerbating all the issues here, you know, they like,

735
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: we all have this spear and we have a deep

736
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: sense of a need for security as humans, and so

737
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: when that's threatens, we want to do whatever we can

738
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: and to survive and protect ourselves. So I feel like

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Speaker 1: someone fixating on like figuring it out could be part

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Speaker 1: of that. Like that actually makes sense to me to

741
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: kind of soothe your brain, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it's you know, like there are plenty

743
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: of examples of when some of these things have become true,

744
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 3: especially in terms of the government. Yeah, so there are

745
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: real reasons to not trust the government, and you know,

746
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 3: people play into that fear.

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00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: So we'll put the link to that in the description

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Speaker 1: of this podcast. Obviously, Like the thing about Avrol and Melissa,

750
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Speaker 1: that's not affecting my day to day, so it's pretty

751
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: easy to let go of. As you walk away, I'm

752
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: like Melissa, and then she doesn't turn around. I'm like cool,

753
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: that's like all I need to and we're done.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: But if there's something else that's like a bigger issue

756
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: in your life or a deeper questioning situation, go check

757
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: out that website tip. Do you have anything else you

758
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: would like to leave the people with this I mean

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Speaker 1: Friday morning.

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00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: I think I think we've done enough.

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Speaker 2: Do you think we've done enough today? I actually do too.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, y'all, that's all I actually I would like,

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00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: I literally just feel like we need to apologize.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or I hope you can laugh at it like

765
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: I do too. I'm sorry to any Melissa's out there

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00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: who are gonna catch ship for.

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00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: This Avril or Melissa. There's you know what, there's no

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00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: other Avrils. We'll say that unless it's Melissa. But right,

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Speaker 1: all right, well you text her manager. Get back to

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Speaker 1: us next week on the follow up of this podcast,

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00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna research.

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Speaker 2: Actually, we'll be back.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with more information for you guys.

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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be on pins and needles. I

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00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: hope you can wait till next Friday. And as you

776
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: guys go into the weekend and you're living on the edge,

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Speaker 1: I hope you always remember too.

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Speaker 2: Agg casual.

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00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: We all just need to add casual now.

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00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so why did you add that?

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00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: Okay, it's because of me, because I need to act

782
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: casual right now, right now. Okay, I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: on the plane.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get a foot massage.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye h