WEBVTT - The Volleyball Escape with Ophira Eisenberg

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<v Speaker 1>This is great as Escapes, a show bringing you the

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<v Speaker 1>wildest true escape stories. Now, today we're heading back to

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two and the biggest escape from an American

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<v Speaker 1>prisoner of war camp. I'm Martora Castro and today I'm

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<v Speaker 1>joined by the comedian Canadian and public radio sization of

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<v Speaker 1>Fida Eisenberg. Hi you, Fear, I thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. I'm so happy to see you. We've met

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<v Speaker 1>once before when you were hosting Ask Me Another Live

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<v Speaker 1>on stage. Yes, Santo for Grace was on that pot

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<v Speaker 1>guests with me, and he wiped the floor with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh because there was a bunch of cereal questions. But

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<v Speaker 1>I had a fucking bliss and a trivia show.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't make don't make people think it was a serial podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a trivia show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were talking about kidnapping, and suddenly he just

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<v Speaker 1>started he started asking him questions about Cereal.

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<v Speaker 3>It was super weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you something, what do you consider to

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<v Speaker 1>be your greatest escape?

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<v Speaker 3>You have a little bit of idea of this.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was living in Toronto and I decided that

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to live in New York. Every stand up

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<v Speaker 2>comic and actor that I saw leave Toronto would do

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<v Speaker 2>this thing where they would throw up goodbye party for

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<v Speaker 2>themselves and then they would be like see later, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to pilot season in La or steal later like

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<v Speaker 2>make it yeah, And then some of them never moved.

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<v Speaker 1>Back, and many of them did, oh man, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>about having to come back with the table to your legs,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think most people when they move for an

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<v Speaker 1>artistic reason. Every you got everybody saying like okay, like

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<v Speaker 1>fucking see you in about a month, right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>I concocted this plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I go to get this rental car the next day,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started driving towards the border, just being.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, you never see me again, go to America.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make it in New York City, baby, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got to the border to apply for this visa.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy said what are you applying for? I said,

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<v Speaker 2>graphic designer. He goes, where's the evidence of your work?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I have evidence of my work

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, well, did you go to school in

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<v Speaker 2>graphic designer? I was like no, no, I went to

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<v Speaker 2>school in cultural anthropology. And he was like, but it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Just go back home to Toronto and just get the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff together and bring it back, like you can bring

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<v Speaker 2>it back later today, you could bring it back tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>What'd you do? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>The line was really really long to get back to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Canada, and then I just saw a sign

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<v Speaker 2>that said Buffalo Airport forty miles and so I just

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<v Speaker 2>gunned it and looked in my rear view mirror the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time going like, this can't be happening. This can't

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<v Speaker 2>be happening. This can't be happening. Did I just blow

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<v Speaker 2>through a border?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was shaking the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I dropped off the car at the Buffalo Airport

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<v Speaker 2>rental car Did you know you can do that? You

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<v Speaker 2>can drop a rental car off anywhere for hundreds of Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to say, for a fee and a small child

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<v Speaker 1>of your firstborn. And you got away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I seem to have gotten away with it as I

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<v Speaker 2>sit here right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. But like, what a stroke of luck that,

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<v Speaker 1>after all that, you're suddenly in New York ready to

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<v Speaker 1>make it. Baby.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, now I'm going to learn how to do

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<v Speaker 3>graphic design.

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<v Speaker 1>And now let me tell you about the story of

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<v Speaker 1>our great this escape. Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. So far our story, we're heading down

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<v Speaker 1>to America's southern border, to a sweep of land that

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<v Speaker 1>covers fifteen hundred acres outside of Phoenix, Arizona. Today, it's

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<v Speaker 1>called Papago Park and it's this beautiful area covered with large,

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<v Speaker 1>jagged rock formations the rice up out of the red soil.

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<v Speaker 1>Now why did the American government take that land? Besides

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<v Speaker 1>because it was filled with beautiful buttes, it was to

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<v Speaker 1>build your shit, of course, like a strange white pyramid tomb.

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<v Speaker 1>For Arizona's first governor, George Hunt.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like being a king. He's like, I want all the.

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<v Speaker 4>Beauty, all the buttes around me, the beautes of Arizona mine.

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<v Speaker 1>So the government put an army base in Papago Park.

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<v Speaker 1>But eventually that base became a prison. And part of

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that they made that switch is that when

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<v Speaker 1>they were building, they had trouble digging in the rocky ground.

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<v Speaker 1>So they even had to like blast it with dynamite

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<v Speaker 1>to get through. So they thought that there was escape proof.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, They're like, we're not going to give them dynamite.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not that.

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<v Speaker 2>Stupid, right, Every prisoner just gets one stick and.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a coyote pushing that thing down.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, oh, that's my favorite cartoon.

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<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen forty four, the prison was used to

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<v Speaker 1>hold German prisoners of war. Right when they arrived at

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<v Speaker 1>Papaco Park in January that year, they were put to

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<v Speaker 1>work doing manual labor. In the spring they were digging canals,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the summer they were hired by local farmers

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<v Speaker 1>to do things like pick potatoes and pack analog and

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<v Speaker 1>bail hey, and of course entertained them by doing the

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<v Speaker 1>patient in germanoonstans.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you say antelopes? By the way, did you.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, yeah? They kept packing antelopes into these massive surfaces.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like the antelopes would have grooved out to

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<v Speaker 2>those tombs.

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<v Speaker 1>So life in the prison was fairly routine for these soldiers, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and despite the fact that they were enemy combatants, security

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<v Speaker 1>was I mean somewhat lax, pretty lax, I'd say. Prisoners

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<v Speaker 1>were always moving in and out for work, and the

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<v Speaker 1>prison guards were confident that no real escapes were possible. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is foreshadowing a little bit, but the show is

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<v Speaker 1>about escapes, right, So also, what the fuck man how

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<v Speaker 1>do you let these social paths out of it, like

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<v Speaker 1>to go pack antelopes, Like that's unacceptable on so many

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<v Speaker 1>levels now.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, is it Arizona not a prison in itself?

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<v Speaker 2>They actually need another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it exactly so, which brings us to the fall

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen forty four, when the prison plumber responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>maintaining the sewage plant noticed something weird the prison. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>is that sound of a fucking Oh? That is nasty

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<v Speaker 1>the prison. So yeah, yeah, I think that's good. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>So funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Why that's such an innocuous noise and we're both just

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<v Speaker 2>totally creeped up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, It's just I don't know, because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>once you say sewage and you hear that, you just

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<v Speaker 1>think poop.

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<v Speaker 4>I yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, the prison sewage pipes kept getting clogged. He would

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<v Speaker 1>open them up, clear them out, and find that they

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<v Speaker 1>were blocked with packed dirt and rocks. He was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like slightly annoyed, but he wasn't going to replace the

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<v Speaker 1>whole prison sewage system just to fix where dirt was

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<v Speaker 1>getting in, which is what he thought was happening. But actually, though,

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<v Speaker 1>what the plumber was seeing was the first sign of

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<v Speaker 1>a massive attempt to escape. It was a breakout schedule

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<v Speaker 1>for Christmas nineteen forty four. Actually, there had already been

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<v Speaker 1>an escape attempt at Papago Park within the first month

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<v Speaker 1>of arriving. Five Germans hid in an army truck and

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<v Speaker 1>try to sneak out of the prison so they could

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<v Speaker 1>head for the southern border. They were hoping they could

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<v Speaker 1>catch a ship back to Germany from the Mexican port.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, these guys really wanted to get back into

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<v Speaker 1>the fight. You know. It kind of tells us like

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<v Speaker 1>who was being kept in this place?

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of person? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, also, there wasn't there one guy that was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know when we just waited out.

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<v Speaker 1>I love them. They're being like honor system about this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, actually, yeah, no, they'll come back. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>They love antelopes, they love candelops, they love the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 3>I love them all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The buttes are nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what they had before? Did they have buttes?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you seen the sky in Arizona?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So two of them were arrested in Tuson, but

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<v Speaker 1>the others made it all the way to Mexico before

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<v Speaker 1>they were stopped. When they were returned to the prison.

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<v Speaker 1>The guards hadn't even realized that they were gone. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you fucking believe.

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<v Speaker 3>Those were the top notch guards.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, that's awkwreat I thought I just talked

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<v Speaker 1>to you in Well, so they sill they come back in.

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<v Speaker 1>So word got out to the local papers. Inspections around

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<v Speaker 1>the prison found just how free and easy things were.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll called wasn't taken seriously, and prison gates were left

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<v Speaker 1>unlocked and some of the German prisoners of war were

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to drive trucks so they could go in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of the prison regularly as part of their work.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the best prison ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that, like, when you're guarding literal Nazis,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be a little more fucking eye on the ball, kid,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds a little bit like summer camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And so they also had crocheting, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>got to swim, They got to swim, They made friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So the lackadaisical attitude towards security was especially fucking nuts

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<v Speaker 1>right because the prison held German naval officers, and in

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<v Speaker 1>particular the commanders of German submarines called U boats. German

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<v Speaker 1>U boats commanders were hardcore, and they were the most

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<v Speaker 1>ruthless and most fanatical officers in the German Navy. They

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<v Speaker 1>had to be the kind of men able to live

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<v Speaker 1>in a metal tube underwater for days and weeks at

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<v Speaker 1>a time. And they had to be fanatical and Nazis

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<v Speaker 1>willing to sink civilian ships without mercy, some real evil shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And they had to also be highly trained engineers who

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<v Speaker 1>were capable of fixing broken down systems underwater without any

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<v Speaker 1>help from the outside.

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<v Speaker 2>And they still found these guys with those three insane criteria.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I don't think I could be

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<v Speaker 1>in the tube underwater. Do you think you could ever

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<v Speaker 1>survive like in a submarine or sign up for that

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of duty.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in the beginning you would go crazy, and

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<v Speaker 2>then as time went on you would be like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, tubes looking nice today?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, from the inside you're like, wow, this this turk

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<v Speaker 1>was really brings out your eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think I really do think, like the

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<v Speaker 2>weirdest thing is that humans are unbelievably flexible, and that

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<v Speaker 2>if some if you just go like twenty more days

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<v Speaker 2>in a tube, like I would need to do some

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<v Speaker 2>hash marks on the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, that's what you would in prison too. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what you would do. That's the yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would also do it in the tube. It

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<v Speaker 3>would be a different form.

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<v Speaker 1>A prison, but that we know how you would spend

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<v Speaker 1>your days inside of.

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<v Speaker 2>Submarine and I'd be like, you know what, I can

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<v Speaker 2>meditate in the morning, like I'm trying the upside.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's asking you to do shit like so in this submarine.

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<v Speaker 1>In this scenario, nobody wants you to do anything around

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<v Speaker 1>the submarine. You're just kind of like there and like

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<v Speaker 1>having like just like working on yourself, you know, working

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<v Speaker 1>on anytime, anytime underwater. These U boats, right, because they

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<v Speaker 1>were filled with fucking psychopaths. They're filling guys like Jurgen Wottenburg.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was a naval officer who was already had

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<v Speaker 1>one wartime prison escape under his belt. Also, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to think that he only responded to his name. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was like Yoda and him like yur Agan, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like hard to find somebody scared. There's like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm new, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>He seems so nice, so gentle.

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<v Speaker 1>Look he's he's troking the antelope in such a beautiful way.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the beginning of the war, Jurgen was one

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<v Speaker 1>was on the crew of a German battleship. His crew

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<v Speaker 1>lost a fight off the coast of Uruguay, and Wottenburg

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<v Speaker 1>navigated his damaged shipped to land, but was captured. He

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<v Speaker 1>escaped from a prison there and made his way back

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<v Speaker 1>to Germany, where he was treated like a fucking hero

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<v Speaker 1>and then trained to command a German submarine. Right Jurgen's

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<v Speaker 1>U boat sank fourteen ships in nineteen forty two, including

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of civilian cargo ships. He was finally captured

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<v Speaker 1>northeast of Trinidad and sent to the desert with the

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<v Speaker 1>first batch of German soldiers in nineteen forty four. So

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<v Speaker 1>when people like Wadenberg were slipping out of the American

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<v Speaker 1>prison and riding around in trucks, it did actually ruffle

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<v Speaker 1>some feathers in the army ranks. They made some changes

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<v Speaker 1>to the security of Paplco Park. For instance, the most

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<v Speaker 1>uncooperative of the prisoners were all put together into a

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<v Speaker 1>single area of the prison compound. One A.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I would do, Take all the batties and

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<v Speaker 2>put them together so they can scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>Stupid fucking idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, they're all the worst. Yeah, put them there together,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll learn from each other. They'll be real scared.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right right exactly, so they can all chat and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, who's got the best idea?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, I got it you. So the American prison guards

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<v Speaker 1>continued to underestimate the prisoners, and that was a mistake

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<v Speaker 1>with serious consequences. When German prisoners were captured by the

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<v Speaker 1>Americans during World War Two, the first stop was Fort

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<v Speaker 1>Hunt in Virginia, where they would be questioned thoroughly. When

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<v Speaker 1>it came to German submarine officers, the US Navy would

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<v Speaker 1>take the first crack at questioning them. So they're hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to learn everything from submarine technology to fleet movements, secret

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<v Speaker 1>codes and trading methods and astrology signs, stuff like that. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think the US military was doing to

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<v Speaker 1>make German prisoners talk during World War Two?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could go two tactics. It could be torture.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be like one tactic just to torture them,

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<v Speaker 2>and the other tactic would be like butter them up,

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<v Speaker 2>making your friends so they would give you all the information.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what the army did. They in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get them to talk. The Navy interrogators made them super comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>They house them in cozy rooms where they had plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of food and books and magazines at their disposal. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a swimming pool, playing cards, cigarettes and liquor. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not a joke, can you fucking believe? So this

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<v Speaker 1>was during wartime rationing too. So imagine how you would

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<v Speaker 1>have felt if you were in New Yorker at the

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<v Speaker 1>time and you heard that this is what they were

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<v Speaker 1>getting when everybody else had to like tie to their belts, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, right back then, all the New Yorkers had to

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<v Speaker 2>eat the garbage food of the time, which was oysters, oysters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were all feasting on lobsters and oysters, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, what the fuck? They get meat loads also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not to go on a full tangent, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think people talk a lot about how instrumental

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<v Speaker 1>the Canadian Army and Canadian military was in winning World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two. Thank my grandfather or my grandma's step grandfather,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess was fought and so and sold it. All

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<v Speaker 1>of his brothers from Owen Sound, And it's incredible what

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<v Speaker 1>they did on D Day. And I don't think in movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in movies they're barely mentioned. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's in the general psyche.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Canada, if you think about right now, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>think of a Canadian military presence or even a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money put towards military, or that even being talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>I have been asked before, you know, like well.

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<v Speaker 1>What Canadian army? What?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I just say, yeah, we have a cannon in

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<v Speaker 2>one of our museums.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing that they used to butter these guys up

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<v Speaker 1>is that one American Navy guy let sex workers in

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<v Speaker 1>to entertain some of their German prisoners.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, I would have chopped, like, forget about the pool,

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<v Speaker 2>just do sex workers and cigarettes, Like why are you

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<v Speaker 2>spending your money on the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, when things inside the prison felt like they were

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<v Speaker 1>actually turning peaceful in the fall of nineteen forty four,

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<v Speaker 1>the guards really should have known that they were being

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<v Speaker 1>lulled into a false sense of security. They even ignored

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<v Speaker 1>this big sign that said vivantu escape. It didn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to like really register with them. They're like, we are escaping.

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<v Speaker 1>It just crossed out all the time. It's happening soon

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<v Speaker 1>and They're like, oh my god, there arts and crafts

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<v Speaker 1>really improved, you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I like all these signs. I feel like it's like

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<v Speaker 3>word art.

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<v Speaker 1>They seem like, you know, Amy Poehler and mean girls

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<v Speaker 1>where she's like I'm cool mom. Like they're like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like cool. I'm just like here to support.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that they have positive affirmations, you know, escape.

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<v Speaker 1>You are seeing, you are loved. One American officer in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of security at Public Park would later say that

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<v Speaker 1>he had a bad feeling about Compound one. A oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bad fat feel good for you, champ, you hero, go on?

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<v Speaker 2>That is that what? That's a number one attribut I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking for in a guard.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey do you do? You have bad feelings?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's like, go check. But man, I feel kind

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<v Speaker 1>of uneasy about it. Might be the oysters that they

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<v Speaker 1>keep shipping down from New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Does anyone else feel queasy?

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<v Speaker 1>Mostly because there was a place in the middle. He

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<v Speaker 1>felt bad because there was a place in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of it that couldn't be seen from any of the

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<v Speaker 1>guard towers. So, in other words, it was a blind

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<v Speaker 1>spot that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was known a known blind spot.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, guys, that doesn't seem like a good idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not going to go look in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's ignore the blind spot, how about you.

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<v Speaker 1>So so the security officer later said that he knew

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<v Speaker 1>that the Germans were too smart not to know what

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<v Speaker 1>is a blind spot, and he thought it didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>any sense to put all their smartest prisoners right next

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<v Speaker 1>to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my, this is the comedy of errors in prison style.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this should tell you something about this guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>also said that the Nazis were a bunch of fine men,

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<v Speaker 1>So fuck that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we know, I see what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand what they're getting. I feel like they were enamored.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an enamorment by these prison guards.

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<v Speaker 3>Who side were they on? Where's the mole?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the mole? Oh my god, I love that reality

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<v Speaker 1>TV series? Don't get me right? So good? Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>they really should have known better than putting all the

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<v Speaker 1>most angry, most troublesome, the most dedicated Nazis together in

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<v Speaker 1>one compound. But for some reason, that's exactly what they

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<v Speaker 1>fucking did. The first thing that the German captains did

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<v Speaker 1>in Compound one A was a little landscaping. They started

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<v Speaker 1>plotting out flower beds and generally working on a plant

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<v Speaker 1>to beautify the place, or so it seemed. The other

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<v Speaker 1>part of the routine was whining. That's true. The guards

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<v Speaker 1>started to get regular complaints from you again, Vattenberg. He

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<v Speaker 1>winded about the food, he winded about the work. He

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<v Speaker 1>mostly whined that he was a high ranking officer and

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't think it was fair that he was being

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<v Speaker 1>treated like a prisoner. He especially didn't like it when

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<v Speaker 1>low ranking guards were telling him what to do and just,

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<v Speaker 1>uh god, can you.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe they do to make him feel better. I know

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<v Speaker 3>they were on it. I know they were like you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that they didn't let him. They did not

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<v Speaker 1>let this one man go through such suffering. Anything I know.

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<v Speaker 2>About this story is they were like I everyone meet,

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<v Speaker 2>emergency meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, oh my god, we're so so, so

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<v Speaker 1>so embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 3>Urget is sad.

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<v Speaker 1>But you guys, you guys sorry. Is it reported by

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<v Speaker 1>the war No? No, no, no, Get's sad. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to plant daffodils today. So it wasn't a surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>One day you're going to approach the camp commander and

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<v Speaker 1>ask for some shovels for the flower bit You know, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course they were like, we will give you the biggest.

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<v Speaker 3>Heaviest shovel.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, do you need a tractor because I

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<v Speaker 1>have one.

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<v Speaker 3>The guns that look like shovels, do you want those?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. So for some of all about reason,

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<v Speaker 1>the army guards decided that they should fucking agree. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the gardening tools were supposed to be under close watch,

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<v Speaker 1>but still none of them happens. Nothing is none of

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<v Speaker 1>them having to notice when a pickaxe went missing and

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<v Speaker 1>the gardens were popping up all over.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like in the like a classic movie where

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the shed and there's a shadow of

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<v Speaker 2>where the pickaxe was supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, like what is this? Must be? What an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting design the shed maker created here? So they they

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<v Speaker 1>were popping out everywhere with the gardens. There's gardens everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's when the Germans came up with the next idea.

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<v Speaker 1>They asked the guards if they could have a sports

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<v Speaker 1>field then their compound. They needed more digging tools and

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<v Speaker 1>also rakes that they could use to smooth out the

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<v Speaker 1>dirt into a nice level playing field.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and what are they playing?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, thank you guys. What are you think they're playing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're playing hide all of the tools and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe killing the guards so they can escape.

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<v Speaker 1>They started creating a volleyball court in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the compound. One volley and at least that's what it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like to the guards. I mean they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they called it the volleyball Kurten. And behind their backs,

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<v Speaker 1>the German U boat crews were actually working on a

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<v Speaker 1>different project. Surprise, Rice. They were actually working furiously to

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<v Speaker 1>dig a tunnel under the prison fence. Yes, you know

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<v Speaker 1>where it started in the blind spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say the compound where all the

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<v Speaker 2>smarty pants are one hundred evil smarty pants dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it was right next to the bathhouse. So

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<v Speaker 1>to get to ease the access, the prisoners losing the

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<v Speaker 1>boards in the bathhouse wall. Anytime they were going into

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<v Speaker 1>the tunnel, they would walk in the door of their

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<v Speaker 1>bath house, sneak out through the back wall, and then

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<v Speaker 1>get to work. And when then when they were done,

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<v Speaker 1>it was back into the bathhouse and out the door again. Imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a garden you're just like think thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>the Germans are showering for like three hours at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we have established these guards are not thinking no,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, really, guys, get really clean.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you sure the sex workers weren't hanging out with

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<v Speaker 2>the guards because these guards seem oblivious.

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<v Speaker 1>They're distracted. They were playing. The guards were playing volleyball

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<v Speaker 1>this entire time.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just like, wait, we're just playing with them. They're

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<v Speaker 3>very good at volleyball.

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<v Speaker 1>So the biggest challenge for the digging Nazis was what

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the dirt as they made progress on

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<v Speaker 1>the tunnel. And at first they tried flushing it down

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the toilets in the bathhouse, but as you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>caught them and risk their plans. Don't don't do that

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<v Speaker 1>sound again? Pleased? I will fucking die. Stop. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a real shitty sound. Sorry, Oh my god. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's what I'm just listen. This is not a question

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<v Speaker 1>of mine, but my producers want me to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is your best worst clog toilet experience?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have one. It's very female centric. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>embarrassed by it, but I bet you will be.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I've a budding young teen and I have

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<v Speaker 2>a period like like young teens do, and I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>getting used to how everything works with the products right,

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<v Speaker 2>And basically, you know, we lived in a house that

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<v Speaker 2>had a very ancient sewer system that you were not.

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<v Speaker 1>To pull the chain like it was like the right, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a sleeve on a pipe.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, it was always like, you know, don't even

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<v Speaker 2>like put the good toilet paper down it kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I'm a I'm a young teenager girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the run and I'm self obsessed with me

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<v Speaker 2>And i had my own room in the basement and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a toilet there and anyways, it got clogged up.

0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 2>It was overflowing, basically flooded the entire basement. But it

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:50.520
<v Speaker 2>wasn't nothing could be seen what it was just water,

0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 2>and so my mother had to you know, hire a plumber.

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<v Speaker 2>They went into another room in the basement, took apart

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<v Speaker 2>these ancient pipes that hadn't been taken apart in a

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was like lead poisoning warnings. And then they.

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<v Speaker 2>Pulled out one super tampon holy smoked and it was

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:14.520
<v Speaker 2>it was rinsed clean, so it was just white in case.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't care, I'm just surprised by the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking expansion.

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<v Speaker 3>It was basically like a cotton umbrel.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you dying as a teenage girl when you found

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<v Speaker 1>it out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a full denial now, and we need

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:35.920
<v Speaker 2>to talk about what the fuck he's doing in those battoms.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I didn't help. The diplumbers were all shirtless and

0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.320
<v Speaker 1>incredibly hot like so there.

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<v Speaker 3>Was men as far as the eye could see in

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<v Speaker 3>every direction.

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<v Speaker 1>The clogpipes bring us to the flower beds in the

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 1>volleyball court. Once those projects had been approved, that German

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.879
<v Speaker 1>prisoners started smuggling dirt out in the open right, raking

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 1>evenly across volleyball court and mixing it into the planting soil.

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Once the guards got used to seeing piles of dirt

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.160
<v Speaker 1>scattered around, they didn't really think much of it, even

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.440
<v Speaker 1>when the piles seemed to never get any smaller and

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 1>they're like, that's fucking weird. The digging prisoners took it

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.920
<v Speaker 1>in turns to work through October and November and into December.

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Outside the fence, there was a drainage stage they had

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:21.919
<v Speaker 1>to get past, which meant that the tunnel had to

0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>go even deeper underground.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>To light the tunnel, the Germans used a single bulb

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<v Speaker 1>on the bare wire that connected back through the tunnel

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<v Speaker 1>into a socket in the bathhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>They had like a they well, I guess engineers and

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<v Speaker 2>all this working together.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the water and bear wiring met that the

0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 1>wire shocked them as they work, which makes me fucking laugh. Yeah. Now,

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:45.919
<v Speaker 1>digging the tunnel was only one part of the preparations.

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 1>The Germans also started storing food, maps, and other supplies

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<v Speaker 1>for the journey. They forged papers by making US government

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 1>stamps that they could use to approve documents. Looking at

0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the map, time, do you say they made them? Yes,

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:02.959
<v Speaker 1>the fors papers by making government stamps.

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<v Speaker 3>There are This is not just flower beds and.

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no in these rocks. I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like, you know, they have that military mentality

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and like sort of like fucking you.

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Know, and every day they're just asking for more materials.

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 2>They're like, we're gonna need some.

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>That's not related, but we're gonna need a swimsuit. Uh,

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna need We're gonna need a Do you guys

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:28.679
<v Speaker 1>have a vacuum cleaner up here in.

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 3>The printing press. We're gonna need a printing press.

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>It was the beginning of three D printing. Not a

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of people know this. So looking at the map,

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>three of the Germans even decided that they were going

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>to build a boat. They saw that the Hilo River

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>ran south into Mexico, so they plan to carry raft

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 1>through the tunnel and use it to float to freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>God so, okay, this is crazy. They tested out each

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>part of their boat in the prison bathtub before disassembling

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 1>it to be carried through the tunnel.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of beautiful, large sized bathtub. First of all,

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 2>prisons don't have bathtubs.

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 1>There was clawfoot. It was just like palm trees are out.

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:05.400
<v Speaker 3>It fantastic.

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>So one of the craziest things that the Germans engineered

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 1>was a makeshift radio receiver. They used wire, racial blades,

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and other savage pieces of equipment and they tapped into

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the prison sparb wire fence to use it as an antenna.

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 1>The radio receiver was so effective that they were able

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 1>to pick up Nazi radio broadcasts from the German propaganda ministry.

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 1>It allowed them to follow the news of the war

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>from the Nazi perspective. Can you believe how?

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, why did they have to do all

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 2>of this? They could have just said, we need a

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 2>radio and a transmitter.

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 1>They're going, You're right, why didn't it?

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Just as they just they're kidding everything else?

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Like I need it for I need to I like

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 2>to talk to people when I'm bathing.

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hey, Sandy, how is it going? How is little

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 1>h my God? Also, like I don't know, you know,

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>not not because of the story, but just in general.

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 1>I have some friends that are so handy at building

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 1>shit out of nothing, and I just realize how ill

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 1>equipped I would be for the apocalypse, you know what

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I'd just like be wandering around be like,

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>does anybody need acting?

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 3>Trust me, I have thought about this a million times.

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, I'm going to lighten the mood.

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 1>So because they had a radio. When the Nazi army

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>launched the Battle of the bulg in Europe in December

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty four, the prisoners in Compound one A were

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 1>able to fall along and celebrate the advance of the

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 1>German tanks across Belgium, which in and of itself the

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Battle of the Bulch was a fucking insane plan by

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>a drug addicted hitler. And I don't know how much

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>you know about it, but I don't.

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, when you said Battle of

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the Bulch, I was like, that's where we got it from, yeah, right,

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 2>because I was just like, I've only heard this in

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 2>context of like dumb weight loss, but obviously, oh really,

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I have.

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Never heard the term outside of the outside of the battle. Basically,

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:55.919
<v Speaker 1>he knew he was losing the war, he was losing

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>in the East, and now he had gotten invaded in

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>D Day in the West. So fucking absolute meth head

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that he was, he decided to throw everything everything he had,

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>full court press, full court press, so that they couldn't

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 1>make it to the port. But they were all the

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>way back out to Germany, I believe, and they'd worked

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>at first, which is a crazy thing. They threw all

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>their tanks or every available tank commanders over to the

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Allies and then in they are. Then forest was where

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 1>they finally stopped because nobody sent them with extra fuel.

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 1>They just had to calculate that they have enough fuel

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to get to a port and then capture the fuel supplies.

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 1>But if it didn't work. There's just no point to

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>this fucking advance because if they had no fuel, it

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>would get up number one and number two. They didn't

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>have enough troops to hold any of this territory, so

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it was literally just an insane.

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Fucking suicide for all these people.

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>It was a scary kind of to the Allies because

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>you're getting attacked out and it was just like, you

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>can't fucking win this. Why are we fighting? And it

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>just goes to show you how fanatical people were and

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>listening to every order even if it made no sense

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>and it meant their death. Now that you know, I

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>love this. Some World War two histories are going to

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>fact check the shit out of me.

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 2>If anyone writes into fact check you on anything. Just

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>realize you've made their day?

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 4>Is it? That's it?

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>They spend twenty four hours.

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Say happy right now.

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 1>So back in the German camp, five days before Christmas,

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>the tunnel was complete. Both ends were this guy's with

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>boards and brush, and it was time to put the

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>rest of their escape plane into action. On the night

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>of the summer of twenty third, nineteen forty four, the

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>German prisoners threw a party next door in Compound one

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>B the guards try to shut them down a few times.

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>So they were busy going in and out of Compound

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>one all night.

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Ye, here's what works at a prison.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Why stop?

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 2>So so all right, it's fun, it's fun.

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I get it. Yeah, so the quiet, the quiet, Compound

0:28:56.680 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>one A got no attention. Just before nine pm, the

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>escape plan began. The twenty five soldiers organized into small,

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>three man flight groups. He started dropping down into the tunnels.

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>The tunnel was almost two hundred feet long, and it

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>crossed under two lines of fences and even the perimeter

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.959
<v Speaker 1>road that went around the park. It took more than

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a half an hour for each group to crawl through

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to the other side. Prisoners who stay behind the Papaco

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Park closed up the tunnel once they were through. What

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>would you think if you were just one of the

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>dudes that was left be hiding, like, but you are

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>coming back, right? I was just wet here.

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, this sounds like they're like, you guys threw a

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 2>party while we escape. I'd be like that, no, no,

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 2>wait this second.

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 3>No, no, yeah, that was what the party was.

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>We like people that were like wait what I was

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>having a fucking green.

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 3>It was just like a blower just like.

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>The far end of the tunnel opened into a clump

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of bushes on the bank of a nearby canal. As

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the men started to emerge, he found that it was

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>raining super hard. It was a cold December desert rain,

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>but all the same, it will help screen their escape.

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 2>So they even got lucky with the weather. That never

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 2>happens for.

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Just for a little while. As each flight group had

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>made it through the passage, they slid down into the canal,

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>where the water was about three feet deep. If they

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>stayed load, the escapees could then wade quietly forward, and

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the canal banks would keep them out of sight from

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>any prison guards looking their way. How the fuck the

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>army thought that this was inescapable. There's like an escape

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>highway right outside. I will never know.

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Like, when you're building a tunnel, don't you think

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 2>like when you get to the end, like you wouldn't

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>just be like, Okay, now I'm going to go back

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 2>and wait for the plan.

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't you just go well.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, I wouldn't have the

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>wherewithal to be Like, I'm like, fuck those guys they

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>were having a party. I'm I'm just gonna pelt it

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>out here. I'm just gonna run fast and make a

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of noise. I think that's how it was got so.

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Once the Germans moved far enough to be out of

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>side of the prison, the flight groups went their separate ways.

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>They all look for places to lay low. The three

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>men carrying the pieces of the boat marched west towards Phoenix.

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>They found a public school that was locked, and they

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>went inside, where they prepared for their journey down the

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Hilo River, which they were going to reach the very

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>next day. Oh Captain Jurgen Wattenburg took the other two

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>men and marched northwest into the hills around Phoenix. They

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>found a cave where they would hide out and plot

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>their next move, And with that, twenty five German navymen

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>had achieved the largest mass escape from any American prison

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>camp in World War Two.

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 3>Dun Dun Dunn.

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>But for some of these ski piece so journey did

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>not last long. One twenty two year old soldier only

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>lasted one day because after being pounded by cold rain,

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>here we go, dring in the cold canal and trying

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to eat a meal of dried Brent cubs that he

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 1>had packed for himself in his pockets, which is so

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>fucking stupid it makes me laugh.

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 3>That's like ridiculous. One of them was dumb.

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>One of them was incredibly dumb. He was the guy

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that was like, I thought we were going back to

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the pat I don't know what they don't. So he

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>hitchhike directly to the local sheriff and asked to be

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>brought back to the prison. The sheriff called Papaco Park

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>just as prison officials. We're discovering the missing men the

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 1>next day. Also, the descert gets really fucking cold to night,

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>so I'm thinking, particularly in the winter, you get rained,

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>you're a fucked Yeah.

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine how great your life is at that

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>prison if you escape and with the taste of freedom,

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 2>you go, this is hard.

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 3>I should go back.

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm going back with the sex work stuff. And like

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>they have baths, they have cloth to baths, Like no

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>one does that.

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>No one's Like I'm a prisoner of war in another country.

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I escaped and it's like feels hard and I'm hungry.

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>God, I have one hundred and fifty percent. You are

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>so fucking rare, Like there is no prison where you

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>exactly where you're Like we were you suddenly don't have

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>a fucking five force meal and you're like, actually, I

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>don't mind. I'm not it's not for me. Not for me.

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 3>I liked it when I had friends.

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>What a great point of me. So other flight groups

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>have been less lucky in trying to find spots to hide,

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>so instead of empty schools and farms, at least two

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>of them went directly into a farmhouse and knocked on

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the door on Christmas Eve asking for food and shelter.

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>They were quickly turned in by no, no, no, not

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>in Christmas. They're like, well not Christmas. Any other day, Yes,

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>we would have your picking cantalope.

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 3>The army jumped into the day It's family, Yes, it's right.

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>The day it was vin Diesel actually at the time

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>catching all of them, so they called them the FBI,

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the Border Patrol, and every other agency that would lend

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>a hand. A reward was offered of twenty five dollars

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>for each German pow captured. That's like four hundred dollars

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>of today's money. But yeah, I don't no, no, it

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem like they would trying very hard.

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, Oh, no, Like how much do you get when

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 3>you win the voice.

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>They're like, I don't know. We got twenty dollars at

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>a bus pass. Anybody any takers.

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it should be the equivalent to one million dollars.

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>So ranchers, farmers, and local trackers all started combing the desert.

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Once they found the prisoners tracks, it was actually pretty easy.

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Most of the fight groups were caught as they tried

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>to cross the desert on foot, but the V shapes

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>had been cut into the soles of the prison shoes,

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>so their tracks easily stood out. They're like, it's either

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>here or there's like some mighty offensive ostriches walking around.

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's hilarious. No one ever thought to do that

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 2>to change their so whatever.

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Had a little arrow, like literally, it had a little

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 1>arrow pointing in the direction that they went.

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 4>So this.

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Is getting more and more road runner every single second.

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>But what about the three boatmen. You know, they might

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>have actually escaped if there wasn't a major flaw in

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>their nautical plan. Not with a boat, mind you. That

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.800
<v Speaker 1>worked great because they tried it out in their beautiful

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>claw foot bath the but they dragged it thirty miles

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 1>over the desert and finally they'd reached the Heelo River,

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and here, my friends, was a flaw. Germans had assumed

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.240
<v Speaker 1>that if a map showed the river, they would count

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>on a river. But what they didn't know was that

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>by December, the Heel River was hardly more than a

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>trickle running through puddles a mud, so there was nowhere

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>they could flow their fucking boat. Got your motherfucking I

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>can just it just gives me such joy, like I imagine.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.439
<v Speaker 1>And they try to just like slush through the shit

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like it's not working. It's not working, just thick mud

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and shale. And you've spent.

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Hours building a boat ahead of the finest days.

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could have been playing volleyball this.

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Entire time, Yes, smelling roses.

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>They try to find deeper spots to launch, but they

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>could never go down more than the short stretch of

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the muddy river bed before they would get stuck again. Eventually,

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>they abandoned the boat and decided to walk. Two days later,

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 1>when they stopped for a breather, two of the men

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>laid down for a nap, and the third decided he

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>would take a bath and wash his underwear. Okay, and

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what he was doing when the cowboys caught up

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>with him. They literally found him with his pants down. Ah,

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>how about the rest of the slippery Nazis. Well, one

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of the eskps ended up breaking down under questioning and

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>telling the prison guards how it all went down. Following

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 1>his testimony, they finally discovered the hidden tunnel. The other

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>German prisoners had been hoping that if they didn't give

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the tunnel away, the guards would never find it and

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>other prisoners could use it again to escape the future.

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Another one of the escapees gave up after he had

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>a run in with a Chola cactus. The spines had

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>dug their wig into his foot and he didn't know

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.439
<v Speaker 1>how to deal with it. It hurts so fucking bad

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>that they just asked the farmer to drive them back

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>to the station. Apparently the Chola actors is also the

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>worst kind of thing. Oh yeah, fucking haha, Nazi piece

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 1>of shit.

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 4>So, just like the Battle, Tarantino came into this podcast.

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so ha ha ha yeah what I like what?

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I like his stories. I like stories because it's fun,

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>because it's fun. Violence, it's fun. So that's my terrible

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>one to replace. I guess I'm not getting cast in

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>his last film. Shit.

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 3>So just like the Battle of the bulls.

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>The escape was a big Nazi plan that made splashy

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>headlines before ending in complete fucking failure, and the last

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Gairman call was whiny little Jurorgan Vazenburg. He mentioned to

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>hide out in his cave until the end of January,

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>when he tried to make his way to a train

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 1>in Phoenix. He went to a hotel, had dinner, and

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>then asked a gas station attendant the way to the

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 1>train station. Now, fortunately the attendant had recognized Wattenburg. The

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Arizona Republic had just published a story about him that

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>morning titled the big Shots Still at Large. When the

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>police stopped Addenburg, he said, I'm the big shot you

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>are looking for.

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, the guy had way too much ego.

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So in the end, all of the Germans were

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>recaptured in the state of Arizona. People around Phoenix were

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>especially furious when the Arizona Republic reported that some of

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the escapees were caught with milk, gum, tobacco, and slaps

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>of bacon in their fucking packs.

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 4>It was clear just slaps, some just thick cut bacon, which,

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 4>by the way, bacon, as you may know, is and

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure at the time the luxury food.

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 3>That is the luxury food.

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, foods. There's very little I won't do

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>for some thick cut bacon.

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 2>It was the most expensive. If you raise pigs, it

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 2>means that you don't. You're like, because pigs are. They

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 2>don't do anything else.

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>They just exist and they cuddle and then they die

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>for you to have some bacon. Yeah, all of our

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>vegan all of our vegan listeners are like, fuck you, guys.

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>We know how it works. We've been telling you for centuries. Sorry, guys.

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:11.959
<v Speaker 1>So it was clear that the prisoners had been giving

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>things that were scarce at the time, while most of

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the country was rationing for the war. The papers made

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>sure to point out that the prison at Papago Park

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>held the most ruthless and fanatical Nazis, for instance, like

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>fucking Jurgen. After in nineteen forty five, he got sent

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>back to Germany. There he put his prison experience to

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 1>good use. He became the branch manager of the Bavaria

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.240
<v Speaker 1>and Saint Pauli Brewery in Luba.

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? This guy talk about failing up.

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 2>They talk about men failing up in life, but this guy,

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 2>oh my god.

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>For like Nazis fucking failing up makes me particularly mad.

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Like but brewery, they're like, well, this is like give

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.240
<v Speaker 1>him a beer, give okay, fine, RelA tiation him was lesson.

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Give him a beer. Give him as many beers as

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>he won.

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 3>The Jurugan's got a couple stories? Oh really does? You're

0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 3>gonna have a couple of stories.

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>And the brewery has since been demolished, but the legend

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>says that you can still hear his whiny, little shitty

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 1>voice on the Southwest. That's it, that's the sound hear it.

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I am not in the.

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>And that is our story. Thank you so much, a

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>fear for coming.

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 2>You know what, Jurgen is the luckiest motherfucker, laniest motherfucker

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I've ever heard of.

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.439
<v Speaker 1>But what is what is the biggest takeaway from the story?

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 1>What do you think you're going to remember from it?

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you look at it from the point

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 2>of view, is that in the beginning, you know, at

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>one point in the story we were talking about how

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 2>the Germans were coddled in order for the Americans to

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 2>get information out of him.

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 3>That was the tactic.

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 2>But if you look at this crazy like insanity of

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 2>the lifestyle they were given. How stupid these guards were

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 2>in Arizona. You just like I'm amazed that any of

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 2>this is possible.

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Listen, I gotta tell you, this has been some of

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the most fun I've had during episode.

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 3>That's very sweet.

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I loved, I loved, I learned a little something, so

0:39:58.760 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 2>thank you, Urduro.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 4>Well.

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I think when they fact check me, it turns out

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that none of this was true, but we learned to

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>get it. But the Angelope thing was her with you.

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>When for our listeners, where can they find you?

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, they can find me in all the socials at

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 2>O Fira e uh and I play all around tour

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.240
<v Speaker 2>and all around. You can also listen to my podcast

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 2>parenting as a joke on iHeart Weekly Episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, Thank you so much, Afirah. We'll see you next time,

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