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Speaker 2: handle at dp show. Seventy six ers took care business
Speaker 2: in Boston last night. Balanced attack, Joe LLNB Hyresse Maxi,
Speaker 2: James Harden knowing his role distributing and they win it comfortably.
Speaker 2: The Joker at twenty nine, thirteen and twelve the Nuggets
Speaker 2: beat the Suns. They're up three to two. Joker now
Speaker 2: with more career playoff triple doubles than any other center
Speaker 2: in NBA history. You got a couple of games coming
Speaker 2: up tonight. It's the Lakers and Golden State is a
Speaker 2: favorite there, sizeable favorite. Also the Heat at the Knicks
Speaker 2: that's coming up tonight as well. According to DraftKings Miami
Speaker 2: getting three and a half again the Knicks, the Lakers
Speaker 2: getting seven against the Warriors. Spent too much time in
Speaker 2: the first hour talking about what Mike Greenberg proposed yesterday
Speaker 2: on Get Up and talking about if you know you're
Speaker 2: the Lakers. Do you rest Lebron James and Anthony Davis
Speaker 2: for tonight's game? Do you take the l and then
Speaker 2: get rested up for the next game going back home
Speaker 2: for Game six? And Greeney was serious when he pitched it,
Speaker 2: And that was what was surprising that I thought it
Speaker 2: was one of those Hey, what about what if you
Speaker 2: did this? Well? At first I thought what he was
Speaker 2: talking about was maybe you go into the fourth quarter
Speaker 2: and you're down by fifteen, do you then rest everybody?
Speaker 2: You have Anthony Davis and Lebron sit down and then rest,
Speaker 2: you know, for Game six? I understand that, but could
Speaker 2: you imagine the Lakers that you know, they reach out
Speaker 2: to the commissioner or the commissioner would reach out to
Speaker 2: the Lakers go wait, wait, wait, what's happening here? Lebron
Speaker 2: and Ad are not going to play. That'll be a
Speaker 2: sizeable fine for you. They're not injured right now. You
Speaker 2: can make a case Ad is always nicked up. But
Speaker 2: how would that go over? And it wouldn't go over
Speaker 2: because the commissioner is going to go, no, I need
Speaker 2: you to play, And I can't imagine you go to
Speaker 2: Lebron James go Lebron. You know you're an old guy. Now,
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks called you an old guy, So maybe you
Speaker 2: should sit down and rest up for games that Lebron's
Speaker 2: I gotta sit down. You've already wanted Golden State. I
Speaker 2: can't imagine any anybody going, you know what, Let's rest
Speaker 2: up and then we'll wait for the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 2: All well, let's pull question for the final hour there,
Speaker 2: Seat O'Connor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we could put up there if we pivot back
Speaker 3: to the Celtics a little bit. Yeah, all the problem
Speaker 3: with the Celtics is the players or the coach.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, but.
Speaker 2: It still feels unfair, Yes, because Joe Mizula shouldn't have
Speaker 2: been in this situation to begin with. But he's in
Speaker 2: this situation and now we start to question. I mean,
Speaker 2: I had a problem with not calling a time out
Speaker 2: at the end of Game four. I'm going to put
Speaker 2: this on the players. And Steve Buckley who joins us
Speaker 2: now he's a columnist for The Athletic and he was
Speaker 2: at the game last night, and buck you used a
Speaker 2: word that I used, lethargic, Like I'm watching the Celtics
Speaker 2: and I'm waiting for something. Is there something there with
Speaker 2: this team that they do get angry and they're going
Speaker 2: to come out differently in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: Well, that's a big question, and I was shocked. I
Speaker 5: was stunned that we didn't see it last night. I
Speaker 5: would have thought that the manner in which they lost
Speaker 5: Game four was not calling the time out, smart, getting
Speaker 5: the shot off late, Jalen not being on being on
Speaker 5: the other side of the court for the three pointer
Speaker 5: m that essentially won the game. I thought they'd come
Speaker 5: in with this mission and they were with argic.
Speaker 6: There was no energy.
Speaker 5: And which really what really stunned me at the end
Speaker 5: during the post game media access was was Tatum, whose
Speaker 5: play I really enjoy. He's just a great player, saying,
Speaker 5: I guess it just wasn't our night, and I wished
Speaker 5: i'd put it in the column.
Speaker 6: I put the quote in there. I wished i'd put
Speaker 6: at the very end.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine Kevin Garnett saying that after a playoff loss.
Speaker 5: That's that's how high states that team was versus what
Speaker 5: we've been seeing from the Celtics in the postseason.
Speaker 2: What's missing?
Speaker 6: I veteran leadership. I know Al Horford did God's work.
Speaker 5: The other day, trying to see the sunny side of
Speaker 5: what happened in Game four, and he said it with
Speaker 5: such such statesmanship that I believed him that he was
Speaker 5: going to see this thing and the self instagment to
Speaker 5: learn from it and so forth. And that didn't have
Speaker 5: And I heard what you said about Missoula. Yes he
Speaker 5: was put in a tough spot, and yes he's a
Speaker 5: young first year coach trying to coach in the NBA,
Speaker 5: and we know how difficult that is no matter who
Speaker 5: you are or what your resume is. But this you
Speaker 5: agree with, you still comes down to the players. If
Speaker 5: they are going to the Stars or as we say
Speaker 5: in Boston Stas, they really have to deliver and they.
Speaker 6: Have not done.
Speaker 2: So what's the fallout if they bow out?
Speaker 5: That's a great question because you don't want to mix sports.
Speaker 5: But the Bruins and Celtics both went into the postseason
Speaker 5: looked upon as teams that were going to win championships.
Speaker 5: A local insurance company put out caps that were and
Speaker 5: they had a Celtics logo and a Bruins logo, and
Speaker 5: they were given free to all the fans going into
Speaker 5: both teams games in the playoffs, and just yesterday, Montgomery
Speaker 5: and the Bruins all the press conference to admit all
Speaker 5: the things that he did wrong during the postseason, and
Speaker 5: then we've got the Celtics last night. If it was
Speaker 5: just the Bruins, we forget all about it. If it
Speaker 5: was just the Celtics, we forget all about it. But
Speaker 5: if they both lose in the early rounds, it's going
Speaker 5: to be remembered. Here's your fallout. It's going to be
Speaker 5: remembered as the year that both the Bruins and the
Speaker 5: Celtics spit the bit.
Speaker 2: Does Jalen Brown want to stay there?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: You get into that whole Mookie, that's thing. Where did
Speaker 5: he want to stay? Do you not want to stay?
Speaker 5: And Oh, we couldn't resign him, so we had to
Speaker 5: train him and and that'll be until Mookie writes his
Speaker 5: book Went of Life's Mysteries.
Speaker 6: And I would say the same thing with Jalen.
Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Missoula, is he going to stay as
Speaker 2: the head coach?
Speaker 6: I would say.
Speaker 5: Yes, because it would be embarrassing for the organization. They
Speaker 5: put him in as the interim coach, and they were
Speaker 5: so wildly impressed with the job that he was doing.
Speaker 5: That a certain juncture during the season, they took a
Speaker 5: pen and scratched out inter him and said you are
Speaker 5: our coach. For them to remove him from that perch
Speaker 5: now would be from it's management saying, oh, we screwed up.
Speaker 5: We shouldn't have done that so soon. So maybe they
Speaker 5: step up and do that, but I doubt it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he learns from this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wondered about it. I don't know if anybody
Speaker 2: brought up him being out coached during the regular season,
Speaker 2: but now all of a sudden it's being brought up
Speaker 2: because he didn't call a timeout or whatever kind of
Speaker 2: matchups the Sixers and Harden and you know, all of
Speaker 2: those things. But it just feels like there's a little
Speaker 2: bit more of a ground swell, or at least it's
Speaker 2: a topic bar about him and the inexperience and being
Speaker 2: out coached in this series any of that. Is there
Speaker 2: validity to that.
Speaker 5: The timeout thing was was a running thing during the season,
Speaker 5: him not calling timeouts. That's not new that that was
Speaker 5: People who cover the Celtics on a day to day
Speaker 5: basis and who will know a lot more about the
Speaker 5: x's and o's than I do. I do a great
Speaker 5: job reading about it and I more on more than
Speaker 5: one occasion, there were concerns.
Speaker 6: About when and how and if and why he called timeouts.
Speaker 5: Uh, that it's being magnified now is because A it's
Speaker 5: the playoffs and be that particular non timeout happened to
Speaker 5: be a crucial juncture of a of a playoff game
Speaker 5: that they lost.
Speaker 6: So obviously that's going to explode in the prominence.
Speaker 5: Where I don't see an issue and this is going
Speaker 5: to get a lot of time, is that he can't
Speaker 5: he's too young, he's to he can't coach them up.
Speaker 6: That they're not gonna they're going to tune him out because.
Speaker 5: This is the NBA. That's only five guys on the court,
Speaker 5: and if you've got five stars, they're not going to
Speaker 5: listen to this kid from an island. Uh. That may
Speaker 5: come out later on, but Uh, that was not a
Speaker 5: concern that I had during the season.
Speaker 6: I thought that he comes is.
Speaker 5: Very intense and very nerdy on the metric side of things,
Speaker 5: and he just seems to me.
Speaker 6: Like a twenty first century NBA coach.
Speaker 2: Steve, good to talk to you, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6: It's a pleasure to take care.
Speaker 2: That's Steve Buckley cottlem Is for the Athletic at the
Speaker 2: Sixers Celtics game last night. Lethargic's the word I used.
Speaker 2: I'm watching going, man, is there fire? Is anybody breathing
Speaker 2: fire here? And I couldn't help but think of Kevin Garnett,
Speaker 2: Larry Bird. You know, somebody's been in those situations where
Speaker 2: you go, yeah, you know, maybe it was just not
Speaker 2: our night. That's I don't want that.
Speaker 3: It's still like a whole hum like, well, oh, get
Speaker 3: on next time.
Speaker 2: I'll get some phone calls in here. Bob Huggins is
Speaker 2: expected to be back at West Virginia next season. In
Speaker 2: wake I'm reading something on ESPN by Pete Themil. Huggins
Speaker 2: expected to be back next season in the wake of
Speaker 2: using an anti gay slur during a radio interview earlier
Speaker 2: this week. Sources telling ESPN, Huggins has agreed to a
Speaker 2: million dollar salary reduction, a significant suspension sensitivity training. He
Speaker 2: makes four point two million dollars, he's sixty nine years
Speaker 2: of age. Let's see if there's anything else. They took
Speaker 2: two days to deliberate this, and I wondered, because he
Speaker 2: is a West Virginia guy, went there and I believe
Speaker 2: he's the active leader in wins in college basketball right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, none of those are reasons why you go, Well,
Speaker 2: of course he's going to keep his job. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been surprised if they fired him. And if you
Speaker 2: were going to have him suspended, I was wondering, do
Speaker 2: you suspend him for an entire season? But they made
Speaker 2: their decision. He's been at West Virginia, Kansas, Cincinnati, He's
Speaker 2: got eight hundred and sixty three wins.
Speaker 3: Yes, feels like maybe West Virginia waited two days to
Speaker 3: see what the reaction was to it. Yes, it got
Speaker 3: picked up by almost no one, so well, we could
Speaker 3: probably just find them and suspend them a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, still keep them.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know he had a quick apology, you know,
Speaker 3: which is ridiculous. And his apology was an absolute joke.
Speaker 3: You know, he's heartbroken from Oh shut up, dude. Anybody
Speaker 3: who listened to that audio, you weren't heartbroken. That's something
Speaker 3: you've said a hundred thousand times with your buddies.
Speaker 2: Knowing the rivalry in Cincinnati with Cincinnati and Xavier, and
Speaker 2: him saying that, and it's almost like he forgot it.
Speaker 2: He was on and he's on WLW, which is a
Speaker 2: powerful radio station, and you're on with a host, Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 2: who is a provocateur, and it felt like Huggs was
Speaker 2: just talking and got caught up and being hugs and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you throw that out there
Speaker 2: about the Catholic bleeps. I was shocked, absolutely shocked how
Speaker 2: he said it. And then there's giggling. So it wasn't
Speaker 2: like you go, oh my god, did I just say that.
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, I said it, and then giggles.
Speaker 3: There wasn't even like a whoa, hey, hey, whoa whoa
Speaker 3: whoa coach, you can't say that.
Speaker 2: There was yeah, yeah, what a joke. Yep. But I
Speaker 2: was surprised. I thought that it was going to be
Speaker 2: maybe suspended the entire year or fired. And I've known
Speaker 2: him a long long time and I enjoy his company.
Speaker 2: He's a very entertaining guy. He's a great coach. But
Speaker 2: in that situation, I'd have no problem if they fired him. Yeah.
Speaker 8: It seems like athletic programs or teams have like a
Speaker 8: sliding scale the offense to how much we need you,
Speaker 8: you know, did you have a twenty three win season
Speaker 8: last year? We're gonna give you sensitivity training. You had
Speaker 8: a fourteen win season last year. We were thinking about
Speaker 8: firing you anyway. Now we have an out, yeah, and
Speaker 8: we not have to pay yet.
Speaker 2: It is a sliding scale of how good are you
Speaker 2: and what is you know what what's the grievance or
Speaker 2: you know what's the issue here? But West Virginia, according
Speaker 2: to ESPN, is going to bring Hugs back with a
Speaker 2: lengthy suspension and uh, he'll surrender a million dollars. We'll
Speaker 2: take you break. Kenny Smith and TNT will join us.
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Speaker 2: What's on your mind?
Speaker 9: What's going on?
Speaker 10: DP?
Speaker 11: Mike's one.
Speaker 9: Two quick things. First, my Nuggets are one one away
Speaker 9: from the Western Conference Final. Joker is playing out of
Speaker 9: his mind. We potentially got a bubble rematch between the
Speaker 9: rested Greenies, Lakers and my Nuggets, so that would be awesome.
Speaker 9: The second thing, I am getting married this Saturday. Very
Speaker 9: excited about it. I know you've been given marriage advice
Speaker 9: before on the show, but wanted to get you and
Speaker 9: the fella's marriage advice as the big weekend approaches.
Speaker 2: Ooh, it might be too late. You're getting married on Saturday, correct, Greg?
Speaker 9: Yes, sir?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's go around the room. Advice for
Speaker 2: Greg getting married? Seat and we'll start with you.
Speaker 3: My advice for wedding day always is remembered to smile.
Speaker 3: People are taking a good jillion pictures, and don't get
Speaker 3: caught looking like anything other than a massive smile on
Speaker 3: your face.
Speaker 2: Todd, I would.
Speaker 12: Say, really taking the moment and just kind of let
Speaker 12: it get to go fast enough. Try I just look
Speaker 12: around you and take a deep breath and really appreciate it.
Speaker 12: You'll have the pictures, but enjoy that live moment in time.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tom Marvin.
Speaker 1: Take as many pictures as you possibly can wait.
Speaker 2: You don't take them.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, take pictures with people do okay?
Speaker 2: Okay, Paula. Your advice for Greg in South Carolina.
Speaker 8: Have an enforcer at your wedding, someone you designate if
Speaker 8: there's an issue, if someone drinks too much, if someone's
Speaker 8: not doing their job or whatever. Maybe you designate the wolf.
Speaker 8: It could be a family member or someone an enforcer.
Speaker 2: And remember it's your wife's day and your wife's mother's
Speaker 2: day as well, and the person who paid for it
Speaker 2: as well. But you're going to be saying a load
Speaker 2: of people that you won't see again and maybe haven't
Speaker 2: seen before. But you got to be patient, and as
Speaker 2: everybody has said, soak in the moment as much as
Speaker 2: you can because it does go by very quickly. And
Speaker 2: good luck Greg.
Speaker 5: Thanks?
Speaker 2: All right, that didn't sound enthusiastic. Hey, congratulation, Good luck Greg. Thanks.
Speaker 3: I think we gave him like real advice and instead, yeah,
Speaker 3: did you pull out on someone's pants in the middle
Speaker 3: of it?
Speaker 2: Kenny Smith three times Sports Semi nominated analyst TNT inside
Speaker 2: the NBA, and he's written a book, Talk of Champions.
Speaker 2: TNT will present extensive second round and exclusive Eastern Conference
Speaker 2: Finals live game coverage coming up. Good to see again, Kenny,
Speaker 2: you wrote a book. How long has this been in
Speaker 2: the works?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 13: It took about maybe eleven months to write, ten to
Speaker 13: eleven months of right. It was very interesting because when
Speaker 13: I first told charleson second like, I'm writing a book
Speaker 13: and it's a tell all book, and they were like,
Speaker 13: what are you talking about? I was like, no, but
Speaker 13: it's actually it's a book, tell all book about all
Speaker 13: the great things I learned from great people when you
Speaker 13: guys are part of it. And what I did then
Speaker 13: was instead of like having chapter one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 13: it's each chapter is named after a specific person Dean Smith,
Speaker 13: Bill Russell, Jordan, like all the people that I took
Speaker 13: for granted that everybody had those type of people in
Speaker 13: their life. And I'm like, I was writing it there
Speaker 13: and I'm sending in chapters and the editor goes, do
Speaker 13: you realize, like every chapter you're sending someone they have
Speaker 13: a book writing about their life already. And I was like,
Speaker 13: I have a daily interaction if I want to with
Speaker 13: these people, and I just want people to understand why
Speaker 13: feel better about themselves when they read it and go,
Speaker 13: oh that's what makes me successful when I do that
Speaker 13: the way Jordan did it, you know whomever.
Speaker 2: Well, you had a chapter when you went to Sacramento
Speaker 2: and you talked about Bill Russell, bill Russell's impact on you.
Speaker 2: And I loved it because it was his impact on
Speaker 2: you as a man, not necessarily as a player. And
Speaker 2: you would want wisdom from Bill Russell, the greatest of
Speaker 2: all time, but there's so much more wisdom that he imparted.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and that's why he's the greatest winner, because the
Speaker 13: winning is not just in one aspect of his life.
Speaker 4: You know. And in the book I talked about it.
Speaker 13: You know, we were sitting on the plane, like one
Speaker 13: of the stories, were sitting on the plane, and.
Speaker 4: He was the general manager and.
Speaker 13: The president of the team and the coach, so you know,
Speaker 13: a lot of responsibilities. And he's looking at this sheet
Speaker 13: and hit my job as a rookie, I had to
Speaker 13: sit next to him on every plane ride and every.
Speaker 4: Bus ride, and so oh that was my rule, his rule.
Speaker 4: And he's looking at these players in.
Speaker 13: Yugoslavia all over the place, and I go, coach, it's
Speaker 13: not a better player in Alabama or the Saint like
Speaker 13: in flying all the way over the Yugoslavia and he stopped.
Speaker 4: Me right there.
Speaker 13: And he's like, Kenny, as an African American, you can
Speaker 13: never not wun inclusion. And I'm going WHOA, Like he
Speaker 13: took a moment that I was casually joking about and
Speaker 13: gave me a life lesson.
Speaker 4: And that was him.
Speaker 13: And you know, so the same thing with like I said,
Speaker 13: with Michael and Charles, Like some of these things are
Speaker 13: not most of them are not basketball lessons. It's the
Speaker 13: way I shape myself as a parent, financially.
Speaker 4: Everything.
Speaker 2: Jordan is always fascinating because you both went to North Carolina,
Speaker 2: your past cross. He goes to baseball, you end up
Speaker 2: winning two NBA championships. Does how often does Jordan bring
Speaker 2: up if he didn't go play baseball, you'd have no
Speaker 2: NBA titles.
Speaker 13: Well, first of all, he did come back. He was
Speaker 13: wearing number forty five and when he had fifty five
Speaker 13: points in massive square guard and nobody was talking about
Speaker 13: he was rusty only until the Orlando Magic beat him.
Speaker 4: Then they're like, oh he's rusty. You know, So no,
Speaker 4: he was back.
Speaker 13: But I just think that you know, of course, in
Speaker 13: his heart he's gonna believe that.
Speaker 4: But I just think that our teams would have beat
Speaker 4: them and I just won.
Speaker 13: I don't think that it's there's no eight year champions
Speaker 13: that means he would have won eight straight titles.
Speaker 2: You don't think they would have won eight straight.
Speaker 13: No, I don't think, And the documentary proved it because
Speaker 13: there was so much internal things. That's why Horace Grant left,
Speaker 13: and so the fact that when Haras Grant, people forget
Speaker 13: those two years. There was no Dennis Robin and no
Speaker 13: Horace Grant. That's why they lost to Sequille and Orlando.
Speaker 13: They were too small. It wasn't that Jordan wasn't the
Speaker 13: greatest basketball player we still had seen Like they were
Speaker 13: just too small and they would have no one that
Speaker 13: was big enough or good enough to go to King
Speaker 13: at those two years. And I think we would have
Speaker 13: won because of that, not because of not the lack
Speaker 13: of Jordan's greatness. There was no Grant and then Rodman
Speaker 13: comes two years later, then they go on that second
Speaker 13: three pet run. Now, if they had those two guys,
Speaker 13: I might be.
Speaker 7: Scratching my house, you know what.
Speaker 4: I'm glad he went the baseball.
Speaker 2: A better center in your mind, a keem Or Shack.
Speaker 13: I don't know if it's better, but what was better
Speaker 13: for me would have been a king, Like because of
Speaker 13: the style of play that he played. It allowed me
Speaker 13: to kind of still, you know, be flourished and do
Speaker 13: things that I do. I think Shack is so dominant
Speaker 13: that you know, at times, you know, you become your
Speaker 13: role just keeps decreasing. So for me, it's just better
Speaker 13: playing with a king. I would I would say that,
Speaker 13: So for me, I would take a king.
Speaker 2: I know that Lebron with social media there's more people
Speaker 2: that you know, move in for the kill and they're
Speaker 2: more critical with him. I'm wondering if people, if they
Speaker 2: had social media, would they have gone after Jordan the
Speaker 2: same the same way. It feels like social media it's
Speaker 2: either there with Lebron or they're against Lebron. It felt
Speaker 2: like everybody back when Mike played, even if he was
Speaker 2: coming to your town, you went to see Mike and
Speaker 2: it was okay if you beat your team. I wonder
Speaker 2: if so, how he would have done with social media
Speaker 2: and vice versa.
Speaker 13: It would be scary with Michael with social media because
Speaker 13: his popularity would be through the I mean, he was
Speaker 13: already the most recognizable face in the world. You know
Speaker 13: he's musically what you know, I think I said this
Speaker 13: the other day.
Speaker 4: He's like he musically was what Michael Jackson was.
Speaker 13: Like people would faint when they just saw him, like
Speaker 13: and social media would have only expanded that for him
Speaker 13: because because he was the first that we hadn't seen
Speaker 13: what he was doing. We had never seen that, you know,
Speaker 13: We've seen a taste of it with Doctor J you know,
Speaker 13: but we had never seen what Michael was doing. And
Speaker 13: social media would have just exploded that even more on en. So, yeah,
Speaker 13: it would have been scary how popular he would have
Speaker 13: been if social media was there. Lebron as great as
Speaker 13: he is when he's at his greatest, he's taking a
Speaker 13: piece of something we've already seen. So that's what doesn't
Speaker 13: That's what Mike separates Michael.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Kenny Smith the is Talk of Champions.
Speaker 2: A three times Sports Emmy nominated analyst, Mike Greenberg brought
Speaker 2: this up that maybe the Lakers should rest tonight, rest
Speaker 2: their starters tonight, completely rest them. I wasn't sure against
Speaker 2: too against and I didn't want to take it out
Speaker 2: of context, but I was thinking, could you imagine first
Speaker 2: of all, the commissioner wouldn't allow that. Second of all,
Speaker 2: Lebron's not going to allow that. If you're down by
Speaker 2: you know, eighteen in the fourth quarter, then you can
Speaker 2: rest them. But can you imagine if the Lakers actually said,
Speaker 2: you know what, we're going to sit ad in Lebron
Speaker 2: and rest them for Game six, that would.
Speaker 13: Be the most arrogant display of disrespect of your opponent
Speaker 13: that would ever be in the history of basketball. That
Speaker 13: when we talk about respecting your opponent in the game,
Speaker 13: that would take it to such level of insanity. And
Speaker 13: I'm not saying he's insane who said it. I'm saying
Speaker 13: the action of that is insane. Because what if in
Speaker 13: game six, you think you're that much better than a
Speaker 13: team in your Game six the first play of the
Speaker 13: game ad twist's ankle?
Speaker 4: Then what ye? And then the other thing about this?
Speaker 13: The next two out of the next three games, if
Speaker 13: you can get to a game seven in Golden State,
Speaker 13: so there are a bad road team, but they're not
Speaker 13: a bad home team.
Speaker 4: So no way would you do that.
Speaker 13: That would be that would be insanity like And then
Speaker 13: tell the way, might as well let's add some no
Speaker 13: a feel to it and let him go to Vegas
Speaker 13: to blow up some seat sit out.
Speaker 2: But Harden got to go to Vegas. I know Rodman
Speaker 2: got to go to Vegas, right.
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, So let's add that to the equation.
Speaker 13: Take a day off, Lebron and Ad go to Vegas,
Speaker 13: come back and see you later.
Speaker 2: Did you ever take a charge on Shack or Charles?
Speaker 13: I never took a charge, but I have with Shaq.
Speaker 13: The ball was like a loose ball and I didn't see.
Speaker 4: Him, and he dove for the ball.
Speaker 13: Oh boy, and he hit me and landed like half
Speaker 13: of his body landed on my shoulder and my arms,
Speaker 13: and I got a rug burn from the floor.
Speaker 4: Based on his strength that lasted three weeks.
Speaker 13: I couldn't like, I literally had to wear a pad
Speaker 13: in practice because I couldn't do it in a game.
Speaker 13: But I had to wear a pad in practice because
Speaker 13: it was so tender because of his force that made me.
Speaker 13: He's an incredibly huge human being.
Speaker 2: Yes he is, But Yao Ming is bigger than Shaq.
Speaker 13: I don't think he had to sing force even when
Speaker 13: he was as big. Yeah, like Shaq's force was still
Speaker 13: bigger than.
Speaker 2: Good luck with the book and we'll be watching Eastern
Speaker 2: Conference finals they'll have the live game coverage. The book
Speaker 2: is Talk of Champions He's Kenny Smith. Thank you, Kenny.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again.
Speaker 4: Man, good talking to you.
Speaker 2: My brother all right, Uh, phone calls coming up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They The chapter about Bill Russell I found really interesting
Speaker 2: because I'm fascinated with Bill Russell the man. We got
Speaker 2: to see what he did as a player, but then
Speaker 2: you saw what mattered to him and what he went
Speaker 2: through and who he was. And I was around Bill
Speaker 2: Russell numerous times. I never had a real conversation with him.
Speaker 2: There was there was a little bit of an intimidation
Speaker 2: factor of I didn't know how to start the conversation
Speaker 2: with him because he's not a even though he comes
Speaker 2: off he had that you know, that big laugh, and
Speaker 2: I just I didn't know what the entry point was.
Speaker 2: You know, hey, a lot of championships. Hey, you're a
Speaker 2: great player. What was it like? Because I did want
Speaker 2: to ask him about Wilt that what was that like?
Speaker 2: Because you know, you didn't have that many teams in
Speaker 2: the NBA back then, and you're facing Wilt, you know
Speaker 2: a lot more than you would in today's NBA, you know,
Speaker 2: facing an opponent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark was John Thompson like that also like very intimidating.
Speaker 1: You didn't know how to start the comments.
Speaker 2: Yes, and something changed, something changed almost like you did
Speaker 2: with Patrick Ewing, where I was around Coach Thompson and
Speaker 2: it felt like I was on the same level and
Speaker 2: he allowed me to be on the same level talking
Speaker 2: to him, and he had done some research. He later
Speaker 2: told me to find out if I knew basketball. So
Speaker 2: two of the greatest coaches of all time, Bob Knight
Speaker 2: and John Thompson, did a background check on me to
Speaker 2: see if I knew what I was talking about. And
Speaker 2: then after that he told me that and I said, well,
Speaker 2: how did I do? And he was like he had
Speaker 2: some fun with it. He said, yeah, you know, a little,
Speaker 2: you know, a little okay. But Patrick Ewing was the
Speaker 2: same way. I sat down to have dinner with Patrick
Speaker 2: Ewing and Mark Jackson and John Barry in San Antonio
Speaker 2: and I wasn't invited. Mark was going to dinner with
Speaker 2: Patrick and he knew Patrick didn't like the media. And
Speaker 2: I said to John Barry, I said, well, we're not
Speaker 2: good enough to go to dinner with Mark Jackson, Let's go.
Speaker 2: So we ended up going to the same steakhouse. We
Speaker 2: walk in and next thing I know, John sits down
Speaker 2: and I don't sit down because I know Patrick doesn't
Speaker 2: like the media. And then John goes sit down and
Speaker 2: I sat down, and next thing I know, Mark Jackson says,
Speaker 2: tell Patrick who's a better center him or a chemh
Speaker 2: that's the icebreaker? And I go, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: said a team, and Patrick goes, yeah, I agree, And
Speaker 2: then we sat down for probably close to three hours
Speaker 2: and just talked, and that changed everything. And to this
Speaker 2: day I consider him a friend and we text quite regularly.
Speaker 2: Let me get a couple of phone calls in here,
Speaker 2: Brian in California. Brian, thanks for holding what's on your
Speaker 2: mind today?
Speaker 14: Yeah, Dan, I've heard you mentioned a handful of times
Speaker 14: that you think Draymond Green is a Hall of Famer
Speaker 14: and I scratched my head quite often when you say that.
Speaker 14: And I'm curious what your definition of a Hall of
Speaker 14: Fame basketball player is, because in my mind, I don't
Speaker 14: think he really does. He has any of the large
Speaker 14: stats like steals, points, rebounds. He's just kind of like
Speaker 14: an intangible guy. So curious what your thoughts are on.
Speaker 2: At well, he's part of a great team a dynasty,
Speaker 2: and he's been Defensive Player of the Year I think
Speaker 2: a couple of times. I think, being a key contributor
Speaker 2: to four titles, and I think he was two time
Speaker 2: Big Ten Player of the Year. They factor in your
Speaker 2: college resume as well. Yeah, I think he is. It
Speaker 2: doesn't jump out that you look at those numbers and
Speaker 2: they're crazy numbers. I mean, Ben Wallace, he doesn't have
Speaker 2: crazy numbers. He's a Hall of Famer. Dennis Rodman got
Speaker 2: great rebound numbers. He's a Hall of Famer because he
Speaker 2: played with the Bulls. He wouldn't have I don't think
Speaker 2: he would have been a Hall of Famer. He was
Speaker 2: great with the Pistons. But playing on a winning team
Speaker 2: that helps you. If you don't have big numbers, playing
Speaker 2: on a winning team, contributing on a winning team, being
Speaker 2: a key player on a winning team, we'll get you
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8: Yeah, pul like Andy pettittt or Bernie Williams or Jorge Pasada,
Speaker 8: like those guys are all cuss Hall of famers, you know,
Speaker 8: I think. And it's because of the the hair with
Speaker 8: the Yankees, besided wouldn't get sniffed for the Hall of
Speaker 8: Fame with what he did.
Speaker 1: He was a very good catcher.
Speaker 2: But Draymond's a Hall of Famer. It just is part
Speaker 2: of a great run.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see Jeff in Detroit. Hi, Jeff, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 7: What up the one time for chat row? It's kind
Speaker 7: of funny that you're talking about Draymond. First of all,
Speaker 7: we love the fact that you asked the questions. The
Speaker 7: audience appreciates you and Steve Tyler Zolo going head to
Speaker 7: head man with the little friendly fire, the great on
Speaker 7: Mitchell Trubisky and Patrick Mahomes. We really really love that.
Speaker 7: The difference between like Jordan Poole and Draymond. Right now,
Speaker 7: from my understanding, I got people that do the games,
Speaker 7: the sheriffs and police. They say that Jordan has been
Speaker 7: getting upset because they've been herland inces his way. Draymond responds,
Speaker 7: I got ranged. And my question to you is this,
Speaker 7: at the end of it all, with the Celtics being
Speaker 7: one lost away, going to State being one loss away,
Speaker 7: which off season look I guess the most drastic for
Speaker 7: which team if they end up losing.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen in Boston. If you're
Speaker 2: gonna keep Joe Mizzola as your head coach. I don't.
Speaker 2: I've never felt like Jalen Brown was in it for
Speaker 2: the long haul with Boston, that maybe he wanted to
Speaker 2: have his own team. I don't know his relationship with
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, but it just felt like, and you know,
Speaker 2: they were trying to trade for Kevin Durant, and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe he felt exposed or vulnerable there Golden State with Draymond.
Speaker 2: I think he's got one more year player option. I
Speaker 2: would not sign him long term. Jordan Poole was the
Speaker 2: big mystery here. He has not been the same decent
Speaker 2: regular season, terrible postseason, didn't score the last game.
Speaker 1: Yea, he got his money, so he didn't better paid.
Speaker 2: He did get paid. But yeah, that you're watching, that
Speaker 2: you're waiting for if they put it all together with
Speaker 2: Wiggins and Pool, you know, Givon looning. He was a
Speaker 2: topic there for a while. Hadn't been a topic, but
Speaker 2: I mean I even saw where people saying, maybe it's
Speaker 2: time to move on from Steve Kerr. I went really
Speaker 2: because and maybe if he enabled Draymond, or he didn't
Speaker 2: have control of this team or doesn't seem like I
Speaker 2: wasn't sure about that, but I would say Steve Kerr,
Speaker 2: although you can question some of the moves that he's made,
Speaker 2: he's still a Hall of Fame head coach. All right,
Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls? What we learn, what's in
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Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls what we learned? What's in
Speaker 2: store Tomorrow? Robert orri Orio is going to join us
Speaker 2: recap the Lakers and the Warriors have what we learned.
Speaker 2: By the way, as of this morning, odds to win
Speaker 2: the NBA title. Anybody want to guess the team with
Speaker 2: the best dodge to win in the NBA title according
Speaker 2: to Draft Kings Paul in Los Angeles, Lincoln, No, really,
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets, Wow? Quick change? Then it's the seventy
Speaker 2: six ers in Lakers or time, the Celtics, Sons, Heat, Warriors,
Speaker 2: and then the Knicks. I just don't want to be No,
Speaker 2: apparently they don't. Apparently they don't. Julius Randall, Jason and Nebraska,
Speaker 2: Hey Jace, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Hey Danny and Dannett's love you guys. You talking about
Speaker 10: it earlier, and just want to give some helpful advice
Speaker 10: to all the individuals who forget wedding slash anniversary date.
Speaker 10: What you do is you get a picture for me.
Speaker 10: I got married outside, so I have a picture of
Speaker 10: our scenery of where we got married, and in the
Speaker 10: tree I carved our wedding date. And so my wife
Speaker 10: thinks it's thoughtful. She loves it, hangs it up and
Speaker 10: in our bedroom. So it's a constant reminder to me, Hey,
Speaker 10: June's coming up, don't forget that important day and suck
Speaker 10: it met Thanks you.
Speaker 2: I loving moment he was discussing, Yes, of course, Bob
Speaker 2: in Youngstown. Hi Bob, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 16: How you doing?
Speaker 2: Hey Bud?
Speaker 11: A couple of quick things. I know you're at the
Speaker 11: end of the show. Here, first idea for the NFL
Speaker 11: for you? Why not just move Pro Bowl to London?
Speaker 11: You know it's something that we don't really care about
Speaker 11: here in the United States. Maybe you just send it
Speaker 11: over there every two years. I think that would be
Speaker 11: something decent, and then we can rotate in and out.
Speaker 16: And the other thing. Any quick advice you guys may
Speaker 16: have for me as I am not getting married this
Speaker 16: Saturday and not planning on it, and we have nice
Speaker 16: weather for some golf this weekend, So any advice on
Speaker 16: maybe some drinks or anything otherwise from there?
Speaker 2: Are you single, Bob?
Speaker 16: Oh?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm planning on it, planning on keeping that for
Speaker 11: a while.
Speaker 16: How old are you thirty two?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: Thirty two.
Speaker 8: You're getting into that window where you will get family pressure.
Speaker 8: You could get family pressure.
Speaker 11: It's possible. But I'm still in school. I'm back at
Speaker 11: Youngstown State, so.
Speaker 8: Thirty two is also where you should not be in school.
Speaker 2: And maybe maybe that's part of the problem.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: See, just because I've spent some time with our most
Speaker 3: notable bachelor Barry and Santa Fe, I'm going to suggest
Speaker 3: Bob that he goes ahead and starts investing in hammocks
Speaker 3: very soon.
Speaker 2: Well, he wanted to know about drinks. Yeah right, hello, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we were supposed to help him with drinks, That's
Speaker 2: what he was saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get yourself a hammock, get yourself a drink, laying it,
Speaker 3: and enjoy the rest of your day.
Speaker 2: I didn't make fun of him for going back to school.
Speaker 3: That didn't have anything to do with drinks.
Speaker 2: Yes, boy, I.
Speaker 8: Think he just called in to say how proud he
Speaker 8: was of being single, and like, I don't need advice
Speaker 8: for my wedding because I am Single's.
Speaker 3: Gonna go hit some golf balls. Yeah, after that, drinks,
Speaker 3: get some get some drinks, buy yourself a hammock, laying it,
Speaker 3: take an app.
Speaker 2: And the dialogue. Yes, thank you.
Speaker 12: A nice turkey sub cheese doodles and a ginger.
Speaker 2: Ale and yeah, do you wish you were single? Time?
Speaker 12: Do I wish I was single?
Speaker 4: I wish that my bride. I don't know how to
Speaker 4: say this.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're not doing that. No no, no, no, no no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: No, that's nothing terrible. I just I have you know,
Speaker 4: I have certain.
Speaker 12: Fantasies that that will never happen in my life to it.
Speaker 4: It's not a terrible thing. She knows that.
Speaker 12: I talk about that all the time. I just ask
Speaker 12: you if you wish No, I'm very happily married and
Speaker 12: we have two lovely kids, and I'm glad everything happened
Speaker 12: the way it did. But you know, I have my
Speaker 12: mood swings and sometimes, you know, you want to stretch
Speaker 12: things out a little bit, so.
Speaker 2: To speak, even more appealing with that cold voice. Yeah, creepier, Hey,
Speaker 2: what do you want to do? Yeah, boy, I'm.
Speaker 1: Just gonna what do you think.
Speaker 2: The third.
Speaker 12: Why didn't you put on the mouse ears and the
Speaker 12: whiskers out some role playing?
Speaker 4: What's the part.
Speaker 12: You're the waitress and I just came in from the
Speaker 12: truck stop.
Speaker 1: What's the problem?
Speaker 2: Tell me, sep.
Speaker 8: Fix all over your Yeah, you got longe losenges.
Speaker 2: Here's roleplay.
Speaker 8: I act like a guy who's I'm not on the weather.
Speaker 1: You know how hot?
Speaker 2: I always thought you were?
Speaker 12: Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2: Is that a role in lozenges? Or you're just happy
Speaker 2: to see me? They're lozenges?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: This this day in sports history polling.
Speaker 8: Hank Aaron hit inside the park home run this day
Speaker 8: in nineteen sixty seven, Dan, you love him.
Speaker 2: It was his only inside the park home run of
Speaker 2: his career.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 8: Nineteen sixty nine, the National and American Football Leagues announce
Speaker 8: their plans to merge the seventy seventy one season.
Speaker 1: That seems to be a big deal.
Speaker 8: Turns out that way.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's it.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 2: It was on this night Bobby scored the winning goal
Speaker 2: in overtime. That's that iconic photo where he's like diving
Speaker 2: across the gold mouth there. And that was against the Blues,
Speaker 2: giving the Bruins their first title since nineteen forty one.
Speaker 2: Lowest scoring NBA playoff game since the shot clock was
Speaker 2: introduced on this date in two thousand and two. I
Speaker 2: did not know this. The Celtics beat the Pistons sixty
Speaker 2: six to sixty four. Two thousand and two. Man, who's
Speaker 2: the leading scorer? I I don't know. Two thousand and two,
Speaker 2: sixty six, sixty four. Let's see anything else. Bill Walton
Speaker 2: inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame. That was nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety three.
Speaker 8: Yes, Bunk, I got the leading scorers in that game.
Speaker 8: I got for the Celtics Paul Pierce with nineteen mm
Speaker 8: and then for the Pistons off the bench. Corlis Williams.
Speaker 2: Arkansas coreless way of sim Todd? Would you learn today?
Speaker 12: Kenny Smith says, even the idea of sitting Lebron and
Speaker 12: a d tonight so their fresh fur game six would
Speaker 12: be the ultimate disrespect to their opponent.
Speaker 2: Yeah see no Connor. Kenny Smith's got a book coming out,
Speaker 2: Yeah he does. Marvin Greenie's going to hot take rehab, Paulie,
Speaker 2: We're going to London. When did I learn Todd?
Speaker 12: New York hoops fans don't care about Brooklyn. If someone
Speaker 12: like Dame will went to the net, would be like
Speaker 12: going to Kansas or something.
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